29.) Trump Voter Regret + Epstein File Release (2/4/26)

Summary

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The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show – Episode 29

Trump Voter Regret + Epstein File Release (2/4/26) | February 4, 2026

Episode Overview

In this packed episode, Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg dive deep into current political controversies, music industry anecdotes, and personal relationship dynamics, all while weaving in their signature humor and candid conversations. The show explores themes of Trump voter regret, the release of Epstein-related files and censorship, evolving media consumption habits, and tough questions about supporting friends in toxic relationships. The team also riffs on cultural moments, celebrity news, and the challenges of modern audience engagement, wrapping up with their well-loved “Guru” advice segment.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Lauryn Hill, CeeLo Green, and Celebrity Interviews

• The crew discusses the difficulty of booking guarded celebrities like Lauryn Hill, noting her reluctance for interviews even as her legacy continues to inspire.
• They reflect on Lauryn's legendary status and how major public exposure can cause an artist to shut down:
  • Ebro: “Some people don’t like being asked questions… they don’t trust the cameras are on.” (01:41)
• Segue into music legends’ quirks: LeBron’s hair brushing, John Cena’s hair transplant, and CeeLo Green’s expressive look at the Grammys, mixing admiration and playful joking.

ICE Raids, Voter Suppression & the Trump Era (12:30-16:40)

• The hosts react emotionally to videos of ICE operations in communities, emphasizing the difference in scale and aggression compared to previous administrations:
  • Ebro: “It’s not the what, it’s the how, man...” (12:41)
• They draw clear connections between recent immigration crackdowns, voter suppression strategies (e.g., voter roll demands in Minnesota), and attempts to destabilize black- and immigrant-heavy states.
• The conversation pivots to Tulsi Gabbard’s suspicious involvement in voter roll seizures and the larger theme of national security concerns being used as political cover.

Epstein Files Revelations & Multi-layered Censorship (16:36–24:00)

• The team discusses disturbing new content about powerful individuals (e.g., U.S. Ambassador Wayne, tech and media moguls) named in Epstein files, highlighting transnational corruption.
• Focus on recent testimony promises by the Clintons:
  • Ebro: “Bill and Hillary said, we want to testify… No, we want it to be seen what we testify.” (15:44)
• They’re highly critical of platforms like TikTok censoring “Epstein” in U.S. DMs, noting the consolidation of algorithmic power in U.S. tech/media hands post-‘China is stealing your data’ rhetoric.
  • Rosenberg: “TikTok is now... controlled in the United States. The algorithm, the data, the access to the data – all that.” (20:15)
• Reflection on how these social issues distract from the deep institutional rot in society:
  • Rosenberg: “We may be being misdirected... there may be something else that’s more sinister and more important even than Trump’s role in the Epstein files." (21:47)

Trump Voter Regret & The Grift (24:27–53:20)

• Direct, at times caustic, talk about people who now express regret for voting for Trump, often with little sympathy:
  • Laura: “It's tough for me to sit and listen to people talk about regretting it.” (24:58)
  • Ebro: “You knew all of this. If I knew it, you knew it.” (25:01)
• They dissect the strategic way grifters (e.g., Andrew Schultz) benefit from having previously platformed Trump and are now “milking” regret as a new angle:
  • Ebro: “I don’t think they have to do anything except entertain, get the clicks, and shift on to whatever the next hustle is.” (53:08)
• Discussion on how proximity to harmful talking points, even under plausible deniability of “just interviewing,” contributes to normalization and weaponization.
• They critique Trump’s open threats to nationalize elections and remove checks and balances, viewing his ongoing “stop the steal” fixation as profoundly dangerous:
  • Ebro: “He wants to take away checks and balances… All of this is about sequestering, hiding… so that others cannot see what's going on.” (60:19)

Media Consumption, Daytime TV Collapse, & Changing Habits (36:13–40:00)

• Reaction to the cancellations of major talk shows (Kelly Clarkson, Sherri Shepherd) signals a transition away from daytime network TV.
  • Rosenberg: “I bet a lot of those people, like everybody else, are now sitting around scrolling their phones.” (37:19)
• They acknowledge the changing landscape, with audience fragmentation, on-demand streaming, and viral content upending classic TV structures.

Black History Month “Black Facts” & Cultural Interludes (27:11–31:36)

• Playful debate on what constitutes a “Black Fact,” referencing Hot 97’s contributions and the impact of shows like “In Living Color” on the Super Bowl halftime spectacle.
• Rosenberg highlights the collaborative nature and authenticity of such facts, disagreeing over credit but ultimately celebrating black excellence.

Candid Relationship Talk: Keke Palmer, Space, and "The Dance" (31:36–36:10 & Guru Segment 62:03–69:34)

• Keke Palmer’s revelation on preferring separate living spaces for relationships prompts a nuanced discussion about boundaries, autonomy, and “rich people talk.”
• Respects various relationship models, from separate rooms to separate condos ("down the hall"), cautioning against quick judgments.
• Guru Segment: Listener letters spark honest advice about whether to support a friend’s questionable relationship choices, drawing hard lines at abuse but showing empathic “do the dance” guidance as long as safety isn’t threatened:
  • Laura: “If it gets bad, then stop doing the dance. But right now it just sounds like they fight sometimes...” (69:27)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Some people don’t trust it. They don’t trust the cameras are on... When the cameras come on and you’re asking her questions, it changes things.”
  – Ebro on Lauryn Hill interviews (01:18–01:41)

• “It’s not the what, it’s the how, man... they were not just running in restaurants, busting in people's houses, breaking windows on people's cars who were American citizens. It just wasn't this."
  – Ebro on ICE raids (12:41)

• “You know what we’re talking about. Congratulations, you played yourself.”
  – Ebro, recurring theme about misdirection and political deception (21:29, 24:27, 61:47)

• "We may be being misdirected... there may be something else that's more sinister and more important even than Trump's role in the Epstein files."
  – Rosenberg (21:47)

• “It's tough for me to sit and listen to people talk about regretting it… If I knew it, you knew it.”
  – Ebro (24:58–25:01)

• [On Trump voter regret and "the grift"]: “They know they don't have to do anything except entertain, get the clicks, and shift on to whatever the next hustle is...”
  – Ebro (53:08)

• “He wants to take away checks and balances… so that others cannot see what's going on.”
  – Ebro (60:19)

• “Can you even stay friends with someone who doesn’t support your relationship? ...I ended up cutting her off because I couldn’t do it.”
  – Laura (64:48–65:00, Guru Segment)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• [12:30] – ICE raids, voter suppression, and broader political machinations
• [16:36] – Epstein files: revelations, censorship, and global elite connections
• [24:27] – Trump voter regret and the ethics of “the grift”
• [27:11] – Black History Month: Def Not’s "Black Fact" and Hot 97’s legacy
• [31:36] – Keke Palmer's relationship philosophy and the dynamic of space in partnerships
• [36:13] – Cancelled talk shows, shifting audience habits, and the end of daytime TV’s golden age
• [62:03] – Guru advice segment: friend in toxic relationship

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Language & Tone

Staying true to the show’s original style, the episode fuses humor, exasperation, and sharp political critique. The hosts mix playful ribbing (“Hair transplant talk,” “You did coke with them!”) with deeply serious analysis, switching registers fluidly—never losing their commitment to honesty or their community-oriented perspective. They don’t mince words, especially around issues of political responsibility and media complicity, but always keep the conversation engaging and accessible.

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For First-Time Listeners

This episode is an excellent introduction to the show’s blend of politics, pop culture, and real talk, anchored by the unmistakable chemistry and candor of the hosts. You’ll come away with insight into the uneasy intersections of media, power, and responsibility, and with a few laughs at life’s quirks—be it a celebrity’s hair journey, relationship boundaries, or the weirdness of daytime TV.

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Transcript

[A]

Just don't call it a podcast. Turn that up.

[B]

Real scratches you think are like effect. Scratch has to be a scratch.

[A]

I think Scram Jones did those. Maybe, but maybe not.

[C]

Scram is a scratch.

[B]

Talk right in your mic. Laura, is it.

[C]

If it's Scram, it's a scratch. A real one.

[B]

I just couldn't feel that from the beginning.

[C]

That a real one.

[A]

It's a real scratch.

[B]

It's a vibe.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Do we know if so full disclosure. Welcome to the show. Happy Wednesday, everyone. When we talked about the Grammys the other day and the great job that Lauren and Clef did.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Obviously you're very close with Gerry Wonder. Yes. Did Jerry have anything to do with anything they did or no.

[A]

I don't know. I did not ask.

[B]

I want to know. Clef would be a fun guest for us to get too. And what about Lauren?

[A]

Lauren we could probably get like.

[B]

Lauren is someone who doesn't do much, but you've always had a relationship.

[A]

Yeah, we're cool. So. Yeah. I mean, I would love to have her on the show because she wants to talk.

[B]

I'm just curious about. I want to know. And you know what we should request. Love to add that to the. Add all these names to the list.

[A]

Folks, Lauren is amazing.

[B]

We just have to do the show.

[A]

I just don't. When. When the cameras come on and you're asking her questions, it changes things.

[C]

I. I feel like.

[A]

Yeah. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Different person. She seems so friendly.

[A]

Nah, she's the greatest. But now the cameras are on and stuff to talk about, and so then she's kind of. I don't think she's not.

[B]

What is. What is that Is.

[C]

What if we get. Okay, so what if we tell her exactly what we want to talk?

[A]

Some people don't like being asked questions, guys. I'm just be honest.

[B]

What about just chat?

[A]

Some people don't trust it. They don't trust the cameras are on. I like to shine and you're asking me questions, but I just thought you guys are cool.

[C]

Then maybe she'd be more.

[A]

No, no. She want me asking her questions.

[B]

Well, just think about it. How much has she ever done? She did the thing when. When Apple gave her the number one album of all time. They did a little thing.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

With a little thing. She popped out for a second.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

He said a little thing.

[B]

Yeah, but she's. I wonder whether some of the thing is with Lauren is that her. The way we were exposed to her was so gigantic. It was always so sick. Like the, the miseducation was so big that you. It's. You kind of end up in this perfect space, and you, like, don't want to mess it up.

[A]

Well, I also just think, look, man, I can. I don't do a lot of people. I do a lot of interviews, but I don't sit and have people ask me questions a lot. Think about, even you guys. How often do you guys sit down and somebody interviews you?

[B]

Not that often.

[A]

And I gotta say, I gotta say, I don't. I don't think I like it.

[B]

Really.

[A]

I don't love it.

[C]

I don't love it either.

[B]

I, I, in some ways, I'm more comfortable with it because I feel like when you get asked questions, I don't know, I feel I. But I'm comfortable talking. So asking me questions is not hard.

[A]

Yeah, I don't love it, but. So when people are like. Like we were talking about J. Cole yesterday. I understand why you don't want to do interviews, bro. I said everything in my songs. What else you want from me? Like, for instance, the one of the reasons I never started a podcast and went on his pot. I'm on air all day, bro. I talk all morning about how I feel. Then I go on Apple and I play music I love. What more do you want for me to say?

[B]

Well, respectfully, as you would say to me right now, this isn't about you. Why not? Lauryn Hill, though? She doesn't have a podcast.

[A]

No, I'm just saying I can relate.

[B]

Right, but you say a lot otherwise, like, it is interesting, these people who don't ever say anything, and you think, like, they might want people to know more about them for their legacy.

[A]

Maybe. Maybe she feels like people know too much about her personal life, about her kids. I don't.

[B]

We don't know anything.

[A]

Yeah, we know a lot.

[B]

No, we don't.

[A]

We absolutely know who she know about her family, that she has kids. We know about kids, which I'm sure she doesn't want to talk about. We know about the controversy between the Fugees.

[C]

I don't want to talk about that.

[A]

I'm sure she doesn't want to talk about what's going on with pr. She doesn't want to talk about John Forte's passing.

[C]

Or maybe.

[B]

But why not?

[C]

Maybe, maybe. Maybe some beautiful moments, some hot. You know what I mean?

[B]

Maybe she would always.

[A]

Can't she trust that that's what it's going to be about?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

But that's. That's all I'M saying, and I don't know this to be true. She. She might watch this and be like, ebro, shut the f up. You don't know what you're talking about. I would love to. Come on.

[B]

I'm gonna tell you one thing. I hope that Ebro, when people talk ish about me, if it ever comes up to people, to him, I hope Ebro defends me as well as he can defend other people's decisions to not do things with us. I swear to you.

[A]

Do you hear mostly good stuff about yourself, and that's because I defend you.

[B]

No, I don't. So you're not doing a good enough job. By the way, when I just rubbed my head, it reminded me that video of LeBron the other day. Y' all saw that?

[C]

No.

[B]

Y' all didn't see the LeBron video. Yo, I'm sorry, Bascom, if you find it and you can get it in, please. Yo, LeBron, after the Knicks game, okay, Was sitting there with his brush, during having a conversation, brushing his joint, like, he had so much hair. And I saw people posting it going, this is the level of delusion I hope to achieve one day. There was nothing there. He's brushing his head, bro.

[A]

Listen. No, LeBron, I love you.

[B]

No, congratulations.

[A]

You play. Just. It's gone.

[B]

Bring a brush. You might as well bring a brush to the show.

[C]

Imagine if he's in there. Brush. Stop. Stop right now.

[A]

No, it's gone.

[B]

I have one. Hold on this. I have my beard brush. Your man was like this.

[A]

It's gone. It's over. And by the way, I want to say to LeBron, I'm. I'm. I. I love where you went this season with your haircut.

[B]

What. What's different this year?

[A]

He cut it mostly. It's mostly gone. He's not, like, trying to hang on to this, like, hodgepodge. One, two, skip a few.

[B]

Hair about. There's one, two, skip a few again. What?

[A]

What?

[B]

Yeah. What were we doing for a long time?

[C]

What was the artist, you told me who. Who has luxurious hair? The amazing, like, hair.

[A]

Oh, no.

[B]

John Cena.

[C]

John Cena.

[B]

Well, but here's the deal. Here's the problem, folks.

[A]

Here we go. Hair. Hair transplant talk. And I think Rosenberg's gonna go get it.

[B]

No, I'm not Dipperstein. My manager shut me down when I was like, yo, I had a good talk with John Cena. Maybe I should go to this guy he went to in Georgia or wherever it is, North Carolina. Right, right, right. And Dip was like, you absolutely Cannot do that. I was like, why not? You don't get to tell me I don't get to have hair. He was like, this is your look. It is over. There is no changing this anymore. You're a. You are a bald man. But John Cena explained to me the problem is, where's the country people all go to get their hair?

[A]

Rahsaan says, Turkey.

[B]

Turkey, right? Everyone's like, oh, I gotta go to Turkey. Once you hear that, become the thing that everyone says. You can be sure there's a reason. The reason is they're doing it for cheap. Yeah. So everyone's like, go to Turkey. Because when you go to Turkey, get it done for, like, 10, 15 grand or whatever it is, if you do it in the US with, like, the best possible people, you might be looking at, like, 30.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

My question is, if LeBron really had cared, like, why didn't he ever. Because they can do it, like.

[A]

But isn't there a thing where it doesn't take for some people, if you.

[B]

Go to a bat? So what Cena explained to me was, it's the time they take the follicles.

[C]

Out from the back.

[B]

From the back. You need to have enough. You need to have enough.

[A]

This segment needs to be sponsored. Somebody clipped this up and said, Rogaine him in the absolute. We need that bag.

[C]

If you don't have enough in the back, you can't do it.

[B]

But I'm sure LeBron does. He said the problem is when you go to the cheap places.

[A]

And why would LeBron go to a cheap place?

[B]

He wouldn't. That's right. But maybe back then, he did. He just heard from someone. This is where you are.

[A]

He did this a while ago, right?

[B]

A while back. It's the period between when they put the follicles back in your head. They can die if it's not done the exact right way. So they end up putting it all in. But guess what? A bunch of it just died in the last half hour before they got it in your head.

[A]

Damn it.

[B]

And now you just put dead follicles in.

[A]

Hit the button. Congratulations, you played yourself. Damn it, man.

[B]

And think about that. But John Cena's came out luxurious. You want to see luxurious hair? Do you have the video of CeeLo Green at the Grammys the other day by any chance? CeeLo Green, son. You want to see luxurious hair?

[A]

Really? Oh, yeah.

[B]

Run the. Run the tape back.

[A]

I met CeeLo Green's son before.

[B]

Did you see CeeLo? If he had the look that he had the other Day. I guarantee you'd remember.

[A]

What look was this?

[B]

I'll show you in a second.

[A]

Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. Oh, this is my. My young son. Hello.

[C]

Like Lake Erie. That is amazing. Okay, so where does.

[A]

Where's the thought of saying we're going.

[C]

To name him Lake Erie?

[A]

What do you think about it? Honestly, I don't know. I guess it opens up just an air of mystery. It makes it seem like a little bit bigger than, you know, just a human being.

[B]

If you're listening, you're not watching. I love it. My man. Looks like Insane Clown Posse meets Marilyn Manson meets Kiss. Meets Kiss. Yes.

[A]

Big Kiss was. I got Jean Simmons tonight. You got to turn a couple corners at the end of the night. I will. All right, you could, but. But here's the thing, though. That runs in the family. Whatever that is, is in the family. Yeah, y' all forget CeeLo Green? When. When he started Gnarl Barkley? Or maybe it was even before Nar. I don't remember. But definitely during Gnarles Barkley, he was wearing full Star Trek outfits.

[B]

Crazy stuff. He did fake hair stuff, too, right?

[A]

I don't know. No, he's bald.

[B]

No, I don't remember if you ever watched Rocked Crazy Wigs, too. I don't remember. In that era.

[A]

He may have the CeeLo Green musical story. I mean, there's obviously some news headlines that weren't so great, but the CeeLo Green musical story, what was the member, the boomer? He's on a Boomerang soundtrack. What was the name of that?

[B]

Oh, there's not a. I thought there's a. Oh, that's Pre Goody Mob.

[A]

Pre Goody. Like right before Goody Mob. He's in a group that's on a boomerang soundtrack, I think. Then there was Goody Mob, and then there was Solo.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

He's on. He's on the Carlos Santana album. Remember that Carl Dope Carlos Santana album, Wyclef Did?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, the one that won all the Grammys. Yeah.

[A]

Then he's on N. The Nars Bark like ceelo Green.

[B]

Not to mention, just outcast features, too.

[A]

No. Yeah, then there's that.

[C]

But he's always been, like, super expressive.

[A]

And he's an artist.

[B]

Yeah. Okay. The LaFace cartel.

[A]

Yeah, maybe that.

[B]

Maybe he was on the Face was where he was at. So that's the only group I see. Reversal of a dog by the LaFace cartel. Oh, man, I'd die without you. PM dawn. It gets no better, buddy. I gotta tell you right now, for my money, folks, in that movie when they have. If you remember.

[A]

Wait, you're on Boomerang soundtrack now.

[B]

Yeah, we're talking.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

It's your fault.

[A]

I didn't know how you got to PM Dawn. I forgot that was on there.

[B]

Okay.

[D]

Boom.

[A]

And remember, at this time for the audience, Ro Rosenberg was like. How would you say your infatuation for Halle Berry was?

[B]

Oh, man, it's out of control. No, not posters. Just. There were. No, there were.

[A]

Posters weren't staying on the wall because it was sticky stuff on them, so you had to change.

[B]

First of all, this is pre post.

[A]

Don't you ill booger woman. We'll get back to you when your posters.

[B]

These. This is pre posters existing. This is when I just had the her as the 50 most beautiful people people thing. Just it wrapped up in my pocket like a psycho that was stuck to me.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

So we got to get her on the show one day because this is a different level.

[A]

Yo, these. This guest lineup for.

[B]

Anyway, the scene. The scene, though, when they. Because they have the, you know, David, Alan, Greer and Eddie get into the thing over Halle because David liked her, and Eddie ends up hooking up with her and blah, blah. And then Martin's like, nah, nah, man. We just get to have one big muffin hug, man. And he brings them all together and they hug on the roof. And the second they hug and they turn around to go inside, the. The. Like, they. They cut to, like, the buildings in the background and the lights go on and it hits the. Is it my turn? Oh, man. That's a moment in life, you guys. That doesn't hit you guys?

[A]

No. Oh, it was beautiful. But I don't know what.

[B]

Oh, that movie was so good.

[A]

Yo. Rosenberg's always wanted to be in love. Isn't it beautiful? Like, when you really think about it.

[B]

That's not even a love scene, though. That's like a brotherhood scene. But that song was always that song. Of all the. The lovey songs, that joint is Shout to PM Dawn.

[A]

Rest in peace, man.

[B]

Well, not both of them.

[A]

No. I'm sorry.

[B]

What's. What's. What's my man's name?

[A]

See, we're terrible. Hit us with the button.

[B]

Damn. Why'd you do you. Why'd you do that? You could have just let it.

[A]

Sorry. Because I was going to shout out Jersey City because he's from Jersey City.

[B]

PM dawn got a really bad rap because KRS1 went and threw them off the stage.

[A]

And for no reason.

[B]

Yeah, there was no reason to do it. That we know Of Prince B.

[A]

Prince B. Yeah. Rest in peace. Jersey City, New Jersey. Speaking of, Jersey City, New Jersey is out there heavy.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

ICE is moving around Jersey City, so pay attention.

[C]

ICE was also in the Lower east side.

[A]

Low east side.

[C]

Lower east side, targeting cooks.

[A]

Say word. Hey, yo, for you people out there, you, you morons who can fix your lips and be like, well, Obama deported people. Biden deported. Yes. And we've had ice since 2001. But they were not just running in restaurants, busting in people's houses, breaking windows on people's cars who were American citizens. Like, it just wasn't this. And so it's not the what, it's the how, man. Like, I. I can't even believe we have to have these combos. And the who.

[C]

Natalie sent me a video this morning.

[B]

At like 6am that's my wife Rosenberg's.

[A]

Natalie.

[C]

Yes.

[B]

Up there seeing political videos to ruin your whole day. First thing at 6:00am she sent me two videos. Okay.

[C]

And I watched the second one she sent me, and I was all choked up because it's a scene in Minnesota where it's like somebody's yelling, they're here. Go inside.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, I saw that. And it's like, what, on the street, right? A suburban neighborhood?

[A]

Yeah, well. And people are clear.

[C]

Like, please stay inside.

[A]

So I. I know we're all triggered by the videos, and I know we're all triggered by the reality, the Don Lemon of it all, the. That videos, like that of it all. Are we clear that this is happening because, A, they want to destabilize Minnesota as a state in Minneapolis and get those voter rolls? Like, yes, everybody never forget that.

[C]

They said it.

[A]

They. The woman, the attorney general, said, we will get ICE out of there if you give us your voter roll. Don't forget. Also, they just went and took all the voter registration and ballots from Georgia. Fulton county, the black is one of the blackest counties in the United States of America. Just went and took that.

[C]

Why would they want those?

[A]

They're also keeping from us that Tulsi Gabbard has some. Some. Some. Something in her file that they say will jeopardize national security. So they're not allowing it to the public. Tulsi Gabbard, who was on the scene in. In Fulton County, Georgia, when they took the. Took the ballots.

[B]

And she. And why is she even.

[A]

She shouldn't even. She shouldn't have even been there. It's not even a thing she's supposed to be a part of, but the reason. And so I want to say to everyone else are watching right now. I don't think we have national security. I want you guys to stop. Our government in the United States works for Israel or Trump works for Russia. Tulsi Gabbard works for Russia. Like, what are y' all talking about with this national security? What are you hiding when you look into the Epstein files? What national security? Like, what are you securing from what I.

[B]

Who knows?

[A]

Y' all been. Epstein was in here getting you psychos and weirdos trapped up with children. It's in the documents. So you were g. And by the way, Bill and Hillary are out here about to go testify.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

They're not afraid to stand in front of the public and go testify.

[B]

Well, they were going to. Weren't they going to try to come for them if they didn't? So they just volunteered and said, we're going to come talk.

[C]

Yes. Yes.

[A]

Yeah. No, at first. No. At first they were just trying to drag them. Bill and Hillary said, we want to testify.

[C]

Yeah, that's what's happening.

[A]

Then they said, oh, no, we don't want you to testify. They said, no, if you want us or excuse me. Then they wanted them to come testify, but not in public. Bill and Hillary was like, no, we want it to be seen. What we testify. We don't want to do this behind closed doors.

[B]

Right.

[A]

We want it to. We want people to see the words.

[B]

The words need to be seen.

[A]

Right. We don't want this hidden.

[B]

And they said that we hope that they'll do it at a mutually agreed upon date and time. And then they said they hope that them doing it will set the precedent that other people have to do the same thing, which of course it won't work, but it's a nice thought.

[A]

Well, do we have Wally Rasheed from Instagram? I want you guys to look at this. So while we're hooting and hollering about ice, which we should be.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And we have to be able to do multiple things at the same time, though. Can I see this clip, please?

[E]

The ex u. S. Ambassador to Mexico impregnated an 11 year old girl. This is Earl Anthony wayne, the former u. S. Ambassador to Mexico from 2011 to 2015.

[A]

Wait, pause that.

[E]

Ex u. S. Ambassador to Mexico, Mr. Earl Anthony Wayne about his involvement trigger warning.

[A]

We probably should have said that. Yeah. Ahead of time.

[B]

Thank you.

[A]

Sorry. Running it again because this is. And if you got kids watching, buckle up.

[E]

With an underage girl. When he attended and was arrested by federal police, we believe that blank and Epstein were involved organizing this Party and it was held in Mexico at a U. S. Consulate controlled housing facility. He was sentenced in Mexico in 2017 to a life sentencing for impregnating an 11 year old girl. Her son's DNA matches Wayne's 100%. But after a huge payoff, the US State Department made a deal with the corrupt judge to allow an ex US Marine to stand in his place and serve his sentencing in Mexico. Mr. Anthony has an outstanding arrest warrant here in Mexico for avoiding sentencing. Earl Anthony Wayne is now a professor at American University, actually teaching classes in the spring of this year on U.S. foreign policy, diplomatic practice. After this started circulating online, Earl Anthony Wayne deleted his X account, reporting on more Epstein related documents. Those other videos are on my YouTube YouTube channel.

[A]

The Epstein story. Yes, it's about Donald Trump. He is currently the President of the United States. Of course. Okay. But it is also about all of these powerful people around the world. Right. What was the former prime minister of Israel before Netanyahu? Barack.

[B]

Barack.

[A]

Yep. He's. Lots of emails with Epstein. Lots of them. Prince Andrew. Yeah, right. Yes. Yesterday, day before yesterday, I talked to you guys about Bari Weiss, the head of CBS's wife, who was communicating with Epstein.

[B]

Elon Musk. Elon Musk, the owner of the Giants.

[A]

Tish didn't know that one.

[B]

Oh, yeah, he's in there. I read those emails are weird.

[A]

The, the, the, the guy who found it started Victoria's Secret, who gave him.

[B]

Well, that guy's, that guy's way in there.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, right. Like it's, it's a lot of people in there. But I, I point to being inundated with so much stuff. It's hard to pay attention to what really matters. So most of us will pay attention to the fact that ICE is in Jersey City. That's in my backyard. Right. So that I can't. But why are they in Jersey City? Why are they in Minneapolis? Why is this happening anyway in the way that it's happening? A lot of this noise is because they don't want us focused on, on the Epstein files. You said Ballard. What was Ballard's tweet?

[B]

Someone said it wasn't him, but he retweeted. Someone said, oh, you know, what's the craziest thing about Trump shutting down the Kennedy Center? All the raping kids in the Epstein files.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Like, because, because all these other stories that are meant to make us talk about other stuff, not that the most horrific things imaginable with the most powerful people in our country are in these files.

[A]

And by the way I'm gonna say it again, not just our country.

[B]

Right, Right. All over the world, all kinds of people.

[C]

Did I tell you guys how I saw on Instagram How TikTok is now censoring the word Epstein, See, when mentioned in dms, but only to US Users currently. Everyone else can see in the uk, other parts of the world.

[A]

No, because remember. Laura, don't. TikTok is now the whole US functionality and operating system of TikTok is all based. There's a US version of TikTok.

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[A]

Which is controlled by Larry Ellison, which his son and family controls. Paramount, which is cbs.

[B]

Yeah. That's the whole thing. That was the whole deal. Was that the guy who runs cbs, all these people are now running all of it. So you have Barry Weiss over CBS News.

[A]

Yep.

[B]

Ellison over all of it. Paramount, CBS, TikTok. So.

[A]

And so when you are ticking, I think it's important. And we got to practice this. Just like you just went and mentioned TikTok, it's this way in the US but not all over the world. You have to remind yourself that just changed. It's important to remind people that TikTok is now. What you're seeing is controlled in the United States. The algorithm, the data, the access to the data, all that. We were told that we should be concerned that China had access to our data.

[B]

Oh, yeah, that was. That was how dangerous that was.

[A]

And I want to reiterate there, on all the platforms, the world has access to your data. You know why? Because they sell your data to advertisers.

[B]

Right. That's the value.

[A]

Advertisers from all over the world could buy your data. So anyone could buy your debt.

[B]

Right. China can still buy our debt.

[A]

So what are we talking about? But I know what we're talking about. Congratulations, you played yourself.

[B]

But I do think it's all very confusing, and that's why I just get frustrated because we talk very loosely about the Epstein files, and I think everyone's obsessed with it being about Trump. And whenever I.

[A]

Well, he's the President of the United States and people voted for him.

[B]

I totally get it. But I think people keep waiting it for the smoking gun on Trump to be in the Epstein file. Files. And I don't know, I think we may be being misdirected that there may be something else that's more sinister and more important even than Trump's role in the Epstein files. It's just people are so desperate, we're all so desperate to find the thing to take down Trump that we're hoping that's the thing that's in there. I don't know that. I think he's the level of primary player that everybody hopes.

[A]

Well, I think people don't want him in control of what he's in control of. So they're focused on that.

[B]

Well, they think that's the way out. But the thing is, my point is, nothing's the way out. He literally held an insurrection. He's openly now trying to go, like, into Georgia and force people to make up votes. He's going to Minnesota, sending ice and saying, give us your voter rolls. He's doing so many more obvious things that should disqualify him from being president. But we're obsessed with. We're gonna find it in there. I don't know that we are. I think that's why he's sort of confident that it's not gonna be enough and he knows his people. Unless there's video or photo evidence. Hearsay and photos of what, though?

[A]

Of him with Epstein or.

[B]

That's not enough.

[A]

Drawings and his birthday cards or him saying, hey, bring. What did he say in his little birthday card?

[B]

Yeah. Another. Another wonderful secret. Or here's to another wonderful secret. Whatever the hell it is.

[C]

But again, to your point, they won't do.

[B]

They won't do it. Also, no one turns on.

[A]

But also, this stuff has been there. Right. Epstein was convicted before Trump was in office.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So other people are knowledgeable about this that are not Republicans. Right, Right. So this is bigger than, like, to your point, it's bigger than just Trump. But I think people are focused on Trump because he's the president and he's the entity that currently has the say so to either stop this from being, you know, tried and pushed forward or get him being removed so that it can be. You see what I mean? Like, he is kind of the, I guess, linchpin in the whole chain.

[B]

Right.

[A]

So you would have to remove him and then prosecute, which I still don't believe is going to happen, because why didn't they do that before we.

[B]

Yeah. And now they don't have the numbers to do it. So maybe after the midterms. That's why they're so scared of the midterms. In theory, they're shook is because once you. If. Maybe if they get control, they could do more.

[A]

It's all this. Congratulations, you played yourself. Yeah. We should all be embarrassed. We should all be very embarrassed. And mostly you, if you voted for Trump.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

More so than us, less than me. Way less. Yeah. No Way less.

[C]

There are some people who regret it, and there's so much. There's so many who still, like, are just supporting and just. They're running out of words.

[A]

I'm not here. I'm. Be honest. Call me a bad guy. It's tough for me to sit and listen to people talk about regretting it.

[C]

Me, too.

[A]

I can't do it.

[C]

Me too. I. Look, you're an idiot.

[A]

I can't do it. Because you knew all of this. If I knew it, you knew it.

[C]

People just didn't believe it would happen.

[A]

Who are you texting?

[B]

My wife.

[A]

I'm sorry, yo.

[B]

No, it's not about that. Sorry.

[A]

Natalie, stop texting during the show, man. We're launching a new show, for God's sake.

[B]

I know.

[A]

We're trying to, like. We're trying to keep the mortgage paid around.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

During the show.

[B]

I can't be distracted. I'm sorry. I'm easily distracted, as you know.

[A]

Yeah. And whose idea was it for you to look at the chat? Whose idea was that?

[B]

I didn't do bad looking at the chat.

[A]

You did okay.

[B]

Because I was good. I'm more. I'm more capable of doing that than you guys are.

[A]

Than me.

[B]

I think so.

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah. You're steering the ship, I don't think. I think if you could do that, we're losing you all together.

[A]

Well, look, the ELR show. If you are in the chat right now, shout to you. Shout to everybody in the super chat. Giving love. Shout out to everybody who subscribed. That's. Listen, we have, what, almost 50,000 subscribers? Yeah, about.

[B]

Yeah, and a nice number on Patreon, too.

[A]

Got about 2500 to 3000 people show up live every day. Yeah, we have Take out the time. I ran into a lot of people, Issa's football games and just out and about. It's like, yo, we really miss you in the morning. And I'm like, yo, check out the ELR show on. On YouTube every day, 8 o'. Clock. And they're like, really? I'm like, yeah, we're live every day, eight o'. Clock. And they didn't really.

[B]

It's gonna take time.

[A]

They didn't.

[B]

They didn't.

[A]

A, didn't know, and B, didn't really process. Don't show. They don't know.

[B]

Don't show and don't care about what's going on in the hood.

[A]

But subscribe. And also, like, like all that stuff.

[B]

Very important share. But that, like, button matters. I think it's gonna take time for People to not only know about it, but then get used to the idea of. I open YouTube in my car when I'm driving. I know it's like, yeah, just let it Rock.

[A]

The YouTube app now.

[B]

You can listen on the podcast later. It may be easier for you. What time does our podcast usually go up, Griff? About 11.

[A]

11 o'. Clock. I feel like grips line. But.

[B]

Well, you could always be listening to the day before, though, in the morning. So, like, if you, let's say you drive on Tuesday, you listen to Monday show at, you know, 7:30 when you get in the car, whatever. If listening on YouTube isn't your thing, your cup of tea, if you.

[C]

Yeah, we have options for you now.

[A]

We have a Black History Month.

[C]

That's right.

[A]

That's happening. Happy Black History Month, everyone. Yesterday I failed in my attempt to include Shawnee Culture's black fact on the program. I was vetoed. I was told it wasn't. It was uncouth.

[C]

Yeah, just.

[A]

We didn't need it shady for me to be watching to see if Shawnee Culture would deliver more than four black facts in February. Yeah, you think that I still, I still want to do it.

[B]

I mean, listen, it's interesting, but I still.

[A]

Yo, can you imagine if Shawnee Culture delivered a video Black Fact every day in February? We couldn't get an audio.

[C]

I wanted video. I told him to do it.

[B]

It's not happening, though.

[C]

And he was like, yeah, yeah, I'm gonna do it. And then I was like, well, listen.

[B]

These, these, we got to go on these cruises, folks. Yeah, these cruises ain't cruising themselves.

[A]

What was his black fact about?

[B]

The one that they posted.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Was about how Hot 97 and WBLS were the first outlets in New York to play international music. Huh. I, I, that's what it was, right?

[C]

Yeah, yeah.

[B]

Reggae, calypso, dancehall. Then he's like, hip hop, rbls.

[A]

They didn't mention Kiss fm.

[B]

But even so, I just don't know if it's a true black fact.

[A]

Is it? And why in international music, it's Black History Month in North America. It's for black American, but it's a black fact still. It's still a black fact if it's a fact. For sure.

[B]

I don't know if that's true. My guess is, though, respectfully, to HOT and bls. There are a lot of radio stations in New York, public stations, you know, airwaves that the people control, where I think international music's been getting played for longer than bls. Maybe BLS wasn't really on. Well, I mean, some dragon dance songs.

[A]

No, they played Mama Zoe, Mama's All Mama Makuza. That's a Nigerian. That's nice. That's African. That original record.

[B]

They were playing that original record.

[A]

So Mycosa.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, that was. You sure?

[A]

Positive.

[B]

You remember that?

[A]

Frankie Crocker was playing that. You know, it's like a big record.

[B]

Okay. All right.

[C]

Well, we got. Well, we got a black back.

[A]

Well, no, we do.

[B]

We have a fact that's black.

[C]

Yes.

[A]

No, we have a black fact.

[B]

We can't. Can we call it a black fact?

[A]

You can't own black facts. Yeah, I'm not. Nobody can just own that.

[B]

They own the group.

[A]

No, they're on the Guru either. If we keep it in a bean, we just changed it around.

[B]

Okay. I don't know how these rules work. Guys. Do whatever you want.

[A]

Who's this? Who's this with our black fact today? Laura Stack.

[C]

You should follow him. He goes by Def not and. And he has great content.

[B]

Let me see.

[C]

He's one of my favorite creators.

[A]

Come on.

[D]

Did you know this, Keenan Ivory? Wayne's is the reason why the NFL put so much money and time into their super bowl halftime. In the late 80s and early 90s. He had a show called called In Living Color. It featured a diverse cast and even put on some of the biggest names that we know today, like Jennifer Lopez, Jamie Foxx and even Jim carrey. Prior to 1993, the Super bowl halftime show wasn't what we know it to be today. It wasn't full of star studded performances and celebrity pageantry. It usually was just ads, a break or coming attractions for a specific event. In 1992, it was no different. They showed an ice skating competition during the super bowl halftime show. Knowing this information, Keenan, I remember Waynes and the executives at Fox came up with the idea to air a live broadcast of In Living Color to try to take away some of the viewership from the Super Bowl. And it didn't just work, it worked really well. Out of The Super Bowl, 79.5 million person viewership in living color took 11% of it. And a lot of those people didn't tune back into the Super Bowl. The NFL got wind of this. They weren't too happy. And the next year they spent $1 million and booked Michael Jackson.

[A]

And that's a fact. And I say it based on very.

[B]

That's a very. That was very, very, very well done.

[C]

Very cool.

[A]

That's Def. Not on Instagram.

[B]

Yeah, I mean I brought that black fact last year. But this a. It's a really good fact.

[C]

I mean, he broke it down. History month.

[B]

No, no, it was done beautifully. It's done beautifully.

[A]

I feel like you trying to hate on death. No, no, I just want to have his moment.

[B]

No, no, he really, honestly, obviously.

[A]

And yours didn't have all that going on.

[B]

All I did was say, hey, I'm listening to a Michael Jackson podcast, you know, in Living Color. That's all I said. That was really well put together. That was. That was. That was dope. Thanks to Def. Not a.

[A]

That was not Ant Man. And listen, that fact was black. It was a black fact, all right? And I say it based on facts. Yo, Laura, you ready for the rundown?

[C]

Yeah, let's do it.

[A]

All right, let's do it. Laura got the run down. Turn that up.

[B]

Screens on glow when she pull up.

[A]

Headlines heavy, but we still caught up.

[B]

Light still flashing we don't slow.

[C]

All right, well, Ms. Keke Palmer was trending because she was a guest on the Today show, and she shared a really interesting tidbit about, you know, her love life. Okay, all right, check this out. You can be in a guest house. You know what I'm saying? We can be on the same, you know, land, But I'm over there, and he's over there. At best, separate rooms. Okay, so what about, you know, you.

[B]

Go to the bathroom, you have the two toothbrushes.

[A]

No.

[C]

So he can mess my back up.

[A]

Is that your hot T?

[C]

So if I just feel like, you know, Whoopi Goldberg said the best one, she was like, I don't want a better in my house. Yeah. Wait, wait, wait.

[A]

Time out.

[C]

You're for real right now.

[A]

I'm too for real.

[C]

Marry even. Marry even. So you don't marry even if he's gonna live around the corner. Around the corner would be great.

[A]

What about a guest house?

[C]

Would you let him live in the guest house? Yes, he can be in a guest house. So do you want kids? I could be open. But one thing I need you to know is that I never want to live together.

[B]

You're so question.

[A]

I take it personally.

[C]

But think about how fun it would be to be like, I'm going over to my man's house.

[A]

Yeah, over there.

[C]

You know what? It keeps things. It keeps things right. I want to go sit on his couch, you know, and he better clean when you're coming over.

[A]

I mean, listen, who are we to judge?

[B]

I'm not. I, I, I love this. Totally not mad at this.

[C]

You know, who has A successful relationship and partakes in this Cheryl Lee Ralph.

[A]

Charlie Ralph.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

All right. Cheryl Lee Ralph. Listening.

[C]

For over 25 years.

[A]

It was news to me that there are a lot of people doing this and have been together for 30, 20 plus.

[B]

It's rich talk. Let's be clear. It's rich talk because you got to have two households. So, yeah, that part's real. But if you can afford to do.

[A]

It.

[B]

Why would you not? Because you have the option to be together as much as you want, but to be able to be like, I'm good. I'm gonna go chill. Wow. Pretty tight.

[A]

Now. I think what I would do. I don't know if I would do that. And I'm fortunate to be in a situation where I actually still like cuddling. I like sharing space, whatever. But hypothetically, if I was Kiki Palmer, I would be more of a. Let's. Let's get condos in the same building.

[B]

Oh, nice. Perfect.

[C]

Easier. Yeah, I get that.

[A]

You know what I'm saying?

[C]

Yeah. Upstairs, downstairs, however.

[A]

Yeah. I mean, same hallway, whatever.

[B]

Fire. But the point to me is just about having your own space to go to when you want to.

[A]

Now Kiki Palmer's got enough money where it's kind of like, do you need to be down the street around the corner? Can we just have two houses on the same property?

[B]

I mean, I could argue also your own room is probably.

[A]

So. I know I'm from. There's multiple people I know that have that scenario, and they've been married for, like, 20 plus years.

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

They have their own. They sleep in different.

[B]

Different rooms. Sometimes they sleep together.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

But they have their.

[A]

Definitely. No, they have their own spaces. And usually that starts because somebody snores or.

[B]

But often, often that's the beginning of something bad. But it doesn't have to be.

[C]

I mean, I know somebody who's been married for, like, 15 years, and they. And they sometimes sleep together or they just have sex and then they separate because of the snoring.

[B]

I'll keep it a buck, though. Back though.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

People don't love. Even with their close friends talking about all of. All of their details. So they will give you some details. Like, yeah, we have separate rooms, and it's great.

[C]

Right, right, right. And it's not great in my friend's scenario, to your point.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

She would like it to change.

[B]

Right.

[C]

She's been trying to work with him, and he's just kind of like, you know, doesn't want to go to the doctor. So it's big.

[A]

But, Talora, what you're saying right now is. And we'll get to the gurus in a little bit.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

What you're saying right now is I want to stay with you. I love you, but you're not making enough changes to yourself so that my day to day isn't affected by you being in shamble.

[B]

A slovenly pig.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Or whatever you got going on.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Right?

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

You know what I'm saying? Because you're not willing to make improvements. But I still want to be with you.

[B]

Right. Love you.

[A]

So that's a solution, actually, in many ways for people who do love each other and maybe have. Everything else is going great, but you have. I need my sleep. And you. Or you are a slob, and I've asked you 9,000 times to clean up after yourself in the bathroom, and I can't take it anymore.

[B]

No matter how you cut it. I don't think the take from Keke is crazy. She's rich. She does. She has a lot of stuff going on.

[C]

It's definitely rich. People talk, though.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

We've got two houses, two of everything.

[C]

Yeah. All right, guys. In other news, the Kelly Clarkson show has come to an end.

[A]

Oh, man.

[C]

Yeah. She's leaving after seven seasons. Now she's saying that she's prioritizing family and saying that it was a. It wasn't an easy decision, but that's what she's gonna do.

[A]

I have to assume as much as I like the Jennifer Hudson show that people realize that this type of thing is a real job.

[C]

Oh, yeah. But wait, there's more. I have more. Sherri shepherd also canceled after four seasons due to the evolving daytime television landscape. Now there's rumors that Jennifer Hudson might be. It's a rumor. And Drew Barrymore is in there, too.

[B]

The l might be gone rumors. It's hard that. That gig, the daytime talk gig, is hard. And also, guys, here's. Here's what I would tell you, but I. But I bet's going on here is a lot of the. The wives who are chilling at home and watching daytime talk or husbands, whoever's home during that daytime. I bet a lot of those people, like everybody else, are now sitting around scrolling their phones.

[C]

Absolutely.

[A]

And they're just 1,000.

[C]

Absolutely.

[B]

So they're not turning the TV on anymore. You got to give them a reason to turn on.

[A]

But then there's also. This is network, bro. You know how many apps and shows you know, bro, I can binge because remember back in the day it was soap operas. So you would just turn on the afternoon. Maybe there was a Merv Griffin or something. But you was watching.

[B]

Not Merv Griffin. Andy Griffith.

[A]

No, I'm talking about the talk shows.

[B]

Oh, but that wasn't during the day, though.

[A]

Wasn't Merv on.

[B]

Merv Griffin was during the day.

[C]

I don't remember that.

[B]

That's ahead of my time.

[A]

But, but Price is right.

[B]

Price is right. That's, that's. Now we're talking games.

[C]

What else was on the afternoon Wasn't Sally Jesse Raphael.

[A]

Yes, but I'm saying before Sally Jesse, like, I'm saying like old school. General. General Hospital.

[B]

Well, that was always. Yeah, Mornings and into afternoons.

[A]

Right. So now all of that content still exists. Or st. That content you could watch. You know, Taylor Sheridan's got damn. All these damn soap operas. You got Landman of Tulsa, King. I mean, how many different shows are there? So am I going to sit down and watch a conversation every day or am I going to cut on a show with a plot and a story?

[B]

I, I, I.

[A]

There's so much content that's going to pull you away from watching a daily show.

[B]

Yeah. And people see the clips online. I always had that thought about Jennifer Hudson show is that like the dance clips have gotten so popular and I'm like, that hit everyone's algorithm super hard, is watching people dance. And I just thought, does any of this translate to people watching the show?

[A]

Yo, J Hud, can I get the spirit tunnel, though, since you're not using that no more? I like the spirit tunnel.

[C]

Hey, it's a rumor for her.

[B]

You know what? All I could think about, though, and hopefully that show won't get canceled.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

A lot of people work on that show. All I could think about with the spirit tunnel is, damn, they pay a lot of salaries on that show. They got like 25 people in that spirit tunnel. What do y' all do?

[C]

They're learning a new chance.

[B]

What do you guys do besides chanting? Chant. I want to know.

[A]

Because I'm like, they working, bro.

[B]

No, but these, that's what I'm saying, though. It's hard to have shows that that many people. Heavy lift, 25, 30 people working on a daytime show. You got to get a lot of people watching that.

[A]

Well, then I didn't even get to, to be. I know, I know. We make fun of 2B and Zeus, but man, people are watching that.

[B]

I love to be. We talking about evolve every Wednesday night.

[C]

8 o', clock, the Zeus.

[B]

I'm a star of 2B. What are you talking about?

[C]

Oh, yeah, my wrestling.

[B]

My show's on Tubi.

[C]

On Tubi?

[A]

Really?

[B]

Yeah, bro. Yo, with friends like you. You don't know that my show that I do commentary on a wrestling show that airs every Wednesday night on Tubi. You haven't heard me mention that. Never heard.

[A]

I didn't put it together that it was on Tubi. For some reason I thought it was just like wrestling.

[B]

And by the way, to Be isn't Zeus, bro. Zeus is a channel. To Be is like an app that's just a way to watch lots of different things. And they have originals. It's Netflix, but free.

[A]

That's it.

[B]

I'm not saying it's, you know. All I'm saying is. All I know is my show. But there is a lot of people. There are a lot of people checking in on Tubi.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

To watch movies for free. They have some original program.

[C]

But the content, yo, can we get over.

[B]

I don't know. What was that, Laura?

[C]

I said the content on the Zeus network is so crazy.

[B]

I haven't, I haven't.

[A]

It is so watching.

[C]

No, no, I'm not watching. I don't subscribe. I don't subscribe. But I just.

[D]

To. To.

[C]

To your point.

[A]

Tired of Laura acting.

[C]

People love it. And it's bottom of the barrel type ish.

[A]

Wow, look at her slam.

[B]

It is.

[C]

It is. And people love it.

[A]

Yo, Rahsaan, you're watching Zeus? Yep.

[B]

That proved the point. Lord, if it's beneath Bascom, it's under the pavement.

[A]

Yeah, I don't even have a button.

[B]

Bascom. Did you watch? I know one thing's been getting a ton of talk recently. Did you watch Traders? Didn't want Traders?

[A]

What's Traders? What's that?

[B]

Traders is on Peacock and it's a very big show.

[A]

Give me a plot.

[B]

Some people are telling the truth, Some people are lying and reality show and the people try to figure out who's telling the truth and who's lying.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

And this year it got people super all riled up because Michael Rapaport was on the show.

[A]

Oh, he's. That's a liar.

[B]

And. And he was a liar. And he was. He was kicked off so early mostly cuz people just couldn't stand him. And like, I'm not going to lie, it did. He was so unappealing on the clips that were moving around. It made me want to watch the show.

[A]

Hey, yo, Michael Rapaport.

[B]

Yeah, they got him up out of there super quick.

[C]

He's. Oh my God, bro. He's the worst. He's really trying to run for mayor. I. I can't.

[A]

I know not. Yo, listen, I can't. I didn't know that Michael Rappaport. I didn't. I didn't have this on my bingo card for Michael Rappaport.

[B]

I know.

[A]

I did not. I thought he was acting in higher learning.

[B]

No, no, he's. Now he's really Remy. Yeah, He's. He's just not a bright.

[A]

I thought he was acting in Bamboozled.

[B]

Well, he hasn't gone all the way there.

[A]

Might as well.

[B]

But to. To. To be. I mean, he is such a tool. He is such a tool.

[A]

Like.

[B]

And by the way, I do understand people who were incredibly emotionally affected by October 7th, for sure. And I could see how that for a while, that could send you into a place of being, like, very protective. Or I could see all these kind of emotions and those people in the chat who don't get that. Cool.

[A]

It's fine.

[B]

Choose not to understand other people's situation, but to then have time pass where you, in theory, start to inform yourself as you get to know this issue and maybe listen to other people who are scholarly on it, not just the people who are telling you, thank you. We support you. Can you come help us and be a part of this? Can we fly you here?

[A]

No, he went full grift.

[B]

Can we make you a mascot for us? Can we? That's where. And you know him and I got into it because at some point during his early days of going crazy pro Israel and just being hateful and in my opinion, and terrible, I called him stupid. I just said, you are stupid. You are not an educated person. You are not very bright, and you should listen to other people who are smarter. I guess he was really offended because I know him. We've had a personal relationship for a long time, and I think he was offended that rather than, like, hit him directly, I aired him out publicly. To which I say, I understand how you feel. However, you're making these dumb opinions publicly. Right? And so, like, as a public person making public opinions, I'm now responding. Yo, this man texted me so crazy. And said the most foul things about. Literally about my father.

[C]

What?

[B]

Oh, yeah.

[A]

What?

[B]

Oh, bad mouth.

[A]

He never told us this. So he had opinions of your father the whole time?

[B]

No, no. Because he only got to know this, I guess, after I got into it. Maybe he heard me in the. In the episode of Juanp where I talked about him. Maybe he heard me talking about my dad and he went and looked it Up. Let me give you the exact. Let me give you the exact lingo here so we don't get well.

[A]

And for the audience, why, while you look that up, why would Michael Rapper report not like your dad?

[B]

Because.

[C]

Because he's been a.

[A]

Because your dad's been outspoken about crimes of Israel.

[B]

And more than outspoken, right? I mean, he's. You know, my dad is writing about it every day. Yeah, he wrote.

[C]

Oh my gosh.

[B]

Let's see. Let's see. So now I see we talked above that at some point too, it looks like.

[C]

I just can't believe you never told us.

[B]

I definitely mentioned it.

[A]

I feel like he mentioned it.

[B]

I did. On October 28, 2023.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

We had a long back and forth then. I guess at some point I went far on the air probably and called him stupid. He wrote, you fat matzo ball bleep. Don't mention my name again in any way, shape or form ever. I FaceTimed your dumb P word ass yesterday. You didn't pick up or hit me back. Don't say Michael Rappaport in any terms. You're a self hating short F with daddy issues. Your father's a self hating Jew. The worst kind. And raised a self hating stereotype Jew.

[A]

That was it. I wrote shut your bitch ass up please, Rosalind bitch.

[B]

I wrote. Hey dude, sorry I missed your FaceTime. Obviously I struck a chord with you and I apologize because I definitely spoke about you in insulting terms that I did not have to use. That said, we see this issue very, very differently and I have to assume the only reason you've been saying and doing the things you've been saying and doing is because of ignorance. There is no way someone could have all the information available and believe that what we are seeing happen right now is the best way forward for the safety and security for both Jewish and Palestinian people. If you want to have a real conversation about the issue and are open to hearing some things, I am down to.

[C]

And what did he reply with?

[B]

I could give a bleep about a conversation, your opinions or any of that. Apologize on your podcast like you said the whatever you said on your podcast, I could give a bleep about anything else you say or do. I speak to you in real life. I have a rule about issuing on people I speak to in real life. Period.

[A]

Okay, that was it. Me and him back.

[B]

Guess you never saw the apology. You attacked my family like a bleeping Looney Tune but didn't catch the apology. Hope the screaming the same ish over and over Again, into your camera is effective. Henry Kissinger. Because at that point he was just screaming the same things every day.

[A]

Every day. Are you triggered? I am. By some dude from New York who happens to be Jewish, thinking that he speaks on behalf of all Jewish people. That doesn't trigger you.

[B]

What triggers me the most about it is, and this is why I got so angry is you just came to this story. You didn't. You were not an active person who knew about this prior to October 7th. You know, my. But in fairness, my dad's only been deeply entrenched in this since night the mid-60s. So you show up some Hollywood actor with a. But by the way, be clear. Very successful, great career that you know, it's a great career.

[A]

No, great. It's good.

[B]

It's enough for a regular. For a regular guy.

[A]

No, he's not.

[B]

Denzel Washington or Robert De Niro went with very successful. It's a successful career, bro. You. If you set out as an actor, you set out as an actor and you do movies. Spike Lee, Scorsese, Woody Allen, like he's done it all and then did the Tribe Called Quest doc. Yes, no question. He had a great career. And you've tried. You have now taken that brand and burned it to the ground because you were really emotionally affected by a very emotional and terrible event and you allowed your brain to then be molded the way other people intended it to be molded and are not open to hearing real conversation and frankly become a clout chaser. Because the more you yell and scream into your camera, the more likes you get, the more conversation you get.

[A]

Okay, that to me.

[B]

Is deserving of how I described it, of really, really stupid.

[A]

Yeah, you're a Schmidtian.

[B]

That's just being. And you're missing the point. And what's the most upsetting about it is if in your heart you really care about the safety and well being of Jewish people, which he seems to be obsessed with. What you're doing is not helping. And that's really sad. Bad. You are dividing further and making it worse. So you know, and then the idea of like, yeah, I called you an idiot, but you had to come from my father and call him a self hating Jew of all things.

[C]

I know.

[A]

Well, and then the other thing, I always asked too, and we could wrap this up after this or I asked myself this as I'm watching this play out. Do people honestly believe that this moment in history will ever just become a footnote where there will be some sort of forgiveness for the United States of America? Forgiveness for the supporters and the, and the, and this current government of Israel. Do people believe that there's a, like, we'll get to the other side?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Like, what's on the other side?

[C]

We don't know.

[B]

Excuse me? I don't know. I, I don't know. Well, here's the thing, though. I pray there's somehow another side, but either way, how would there be forgiveness or any real, like compassion for the people who had access to the information, the means to get the information. And all they did was from the safety and security of their own home, scream about how justifying violence against.

[A]

And that goes back to what, you know, forgiving people or people being regretful for voting for Donald Trump. Also, you had the information.

[B]

Well, that's.

[A]

It was publicly talked about.

[B]

That's been a big thing. Have you, I'm curious. Have you. I'm curious. See if you run into. Because I know occasionally, not very often, you can occasionally run into Andrew Schultz. Yeah, but he's been, he's been big out here now. Like, shut up. No, and he really. No, he's really.

[A]

The last time I saw Andrew Schultz, I was walking into Hell's Kitchen on my mother in law's birthday. And so I had literally had the entire family and he was going somewhere with his woman. He grabbed my arm, was like, yo, what's up, bro? I was like, yo, what's up? Head in the Hell's Kitchen.

[B]

I was like, so. So he now has said he's like fully out on everything that's happening and he's did not ever think it could go this way. And it's, I don't think he's lying in how he feels about it. I think he's being truthful, that he's really disturbed by it. But I just.

[A]

Well, no, the question, that's how we got here. No, but the question then goes, okay, taking that at face value, you didn't think we could get here, which means you had faith in this country and this government that we would never get here despite people telling you that this is where it's going. So you had more faith in the government, in the marketing than you did in human beings who were being affected or knew the history of this nation. So my next question goes, do you. How will you find faith in this government ever again then? Or did you never have faith?

[B]

Well, that's good. That's. You're giving those people a lot of credit and saying they must have really just believed something positive.

[A]

Okay, so then it was a Grift. So you knew it was. It had potential, and so you just decided to ignore that for the sake of the grift. Because now you got to sell out your Madison Square Gardens. You got. You got your Hitler haircut, you got your Hitler mustache, you jumped on stage at the Garden, sold a bunch of tickets, you and Charlemagne did your podcast and did all your song and dance, you did all your things, got your clicks and got your likes. And so now the new grift is I'm gonna apologize.

[B]

So that's what I think it is. I think it is. I don't even know if it was all the way a conscious I'm going to grift. It was that you do this thing in your head where you're like, nah, I mean, I'm just someone who's gonna interview him. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna outright support him. I'm just gonna give him the platform and I'm just gonna.

[A]

Right. Cause we need to have conversations with people we disagree with.

[B]

So I think, Laura, I'll let you go. But I think, I think it's playing this plausible deniability game, and now it's become the worst version of it, and now you want to backtrack off of it. But to Ebro's point, everyone was saying, this is really bad. This is really dangerous. You are harming people by making this normal. That Schultz interview with Trump was right down the stretch of the election, and it was one of those moments that Trump really excels in where he really seems normal and you can really treat him in this way where he's relatable and comfortable. That had a factor that. That mattered. So what are you gonna do now with your platform beyond saying, my bad.

[C]

Right.

[B]

What are you now gonna do? Cuz the milk is out of the utter, what are you gonna do?

[A]

But I don't think. But. So that takes me back to the grift, because they know they don't have to do anything except entertain, get the clicks and shift on to whatever the next hustle is, whatever the next trend.

[B]

And this is going so bad for Trump right now. And the ice thing looks so bad. And you can. You can see his approval ratings are terrible. You can play the other side and there'll be a lot of clicks to say, ooh, this is bad. Right.

[A]

And here's the safe landing. According to what Laura was pointing out earlier on the show and what we're seeing on social media, a lot of people are in this boat. So now they have their spokesperson to be like, you know, I screwed up, too.

[B]

The.

[A]

My bad, you know, my bad, my bad. I screwed. You know, I didn't think it could get this bad.

[B]

So, Laura, do you think it was an intentional grift?

[C]

I just feel like, just to excuse it as like, oh, I'm just going to interview him. No, he was spewing this pro Trump rhetoric before this. So it's like, leading up to it. And whoever else is on the show was like, they would just laugh about it and entertain it, and it led to them getting that Trump interview. Well, and now my bad. All while people's lives are being destroyed. People are scared because their aunt could get taken. Their mothers, their children, like, it's bad guys.

[B]

And he didn't Trump always say, yeah, day one, day one, we're gonna have the biggest deportation. Yeah, one's always there. And nobody.

[A]

And we, well, nobody listened to our radio show. They. And they definitely didn't get the clips online, which is why we realized that when we started doing this, there's people actually watching the show now for the first time. Nobody actually was getting these clips because all they wanted to put out was Laura's flashing lights and us talking about rappers. But we've been talking about this for a while where they would throw out numbers. We're gonna round up 2 million. We're gonna write. I, I. He said 11 million. And he said 21 million once of them of. And he was like, there's 20 million illegal people. And I was like, 20. Do you know what 20 million people getting round up looks like? Do you know what that looks? And most people don't know what that looks like.

[B]

No.

[A]

So that means you're an effing idiot because you heard these crazy numbers and you didn't take it serious, or you're so jaded by talking crazy on the Internet and watching the Internet that you were like, ah, he's just talking. It's not going to happen.

[C]

It doesn't matter. Why would you be okay with that talk?

[A]

Why would you be okay with that talk? Yo, Schultz, congratulations. Now, would you interview Andrew Schultz?

[B]

I thought about that. I've thought about that. I'd be more apt to interview Schultz probably, than say, a. Like, I would never interview Tommy Loren or Candace or Katie Miller or any of those people. Schultz is interesting because I don't believe that he is the worst of those kind of people. I think there's an interesting conversation to be had that could potentially be effective. You know what I'm saying? I don't believe he's evil and wants to spread evil. But he made choices where he put his own success of his podcast ahead of the well being of his fellow Americans. So I don't know. It's the same way I feel about Charlamagne, you know, like, there's certain things that he does that I'm like, oh, my God, how? But at the same time, I don't think Charlemagne's heart is terrible and he wants bad things to happen to people, but he does things that make me go, how could you do that in that moment? Do you see what I'm saying? I see a difference. I delineate between the people who are outright. I know what side they're on.

[A]

And hustling grifters who just jump at the opportunity to get clicks and make money.

[B]

Yeah, I don't know.

[A]

No, listen, that's what it is. You, if you know, if you know something's bad and you have a platform where you're successful and you're like, yo, this is bad. Oh, but it's gonna be hot. It's gonna move around, it's gonna go viral, right? And you say, yeah, but I don't have to do that. I don't need to take that one. I'm gonna pass on that one because I don't like it.

[B]

Yeah, that's, that's. I'm aware of the.

[A]

Right, like, that's what. But that's what it is.

[B]

Yeah. It's not hot to do that, though.

[A]

It's not. You're not John Blaze and you're not. I mean, look, you can't do big numbers. You. Listen, we're struggling to have 50,000 subscribers. Right? Come on, we'd be over a million.

[B]

Right now if we had Sneako and Aiden Ross. Who else? We could. Anyone. We could get up here to sit here, run it up. Whoever said the racist thing in chats that we could get to come talk.

[A]

With us, interview them. I can't give them a platform. Talk to them like they really have an opinion.

[B]

See what we can glean from them.

[A]

Yeah, you know what? We need to learn a little bit about each other. I do not need to learn about somebody who goes out in public and uses the N word knowing that it's wrong, knowing that you're just trying to do it to offend people.

[B]

I like back in the day when they were more overt with it, you know, I mean, like in the Donahue Geraldo era when they would just.

[A]

They bring the clip.

[B]

No, the Klansmen would just be on there with the Hood on. They'd be like, yo, what are you doing? And people would come out and just yell at them, and they're like, I hate you, European. And he'd be like. And then they would just get into a fight. That.

[A]

That.

[B]

See, just be honest. Let it be. That's John Blaze.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

And sometimes.

[A]

And by the way. Well, no. And if you're really about that life, if you're really a white supremacist, put the costume.

[B]

That's what I'm saying.

[A]

But I guess they kind of are putting the costume on.

[B]

Right? It's a new costume.

[A]

It's just a new.

[B]

The costumes.

[A]

Yeah. Now. Now it's a slick haircut. You know what I mean? But they went and started doing the type fade. What was the guy, you know, I don't know his name. The guy that was running ice that looks like the character from the Teyana Taylor movie, Bogino.

[B]

Bovino.

[C]

Bovino.

[B]

I always get Bovino and Bongino confused.

[A]

That's the guy. He had the costume on.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

No, he wore the costume.

[B]

The costume was crazy.

[A]

Speaking of. What is that? Bovino?

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

That's different than Bogino Bongino. That's two different people.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

Wasn't there a clip where Trump said he's going to nationalize elections?

[B]

Oh, yeah, that was with Bogino.

[A]

Let me see that clip.

[B]

And they vote illegally. And the, you know, amazing that the Republicans aren't tougher on it. The Republicans should say, we want to take over. We should take over the voting. The voting in at least many 15 places. The Republicans ought to nationalize the voting. We have states that are. So that's a problem. That's a problem, folks. Nationalizing the voting. Meaning. The reason this thing is holding up. The reason this thing is holding up barely, is because the states can at least protect the integrity of their own election.

[C]

That's right.

[B]

To nationalize it. And basically the Republicans take over. He is openly saying, I want to cheat. Yeah, we want to cheat. We got to set this up. It's not working the way I thought it would.

[A]

Remember, even if you believe that there's problems in the voting, okay. Even if you're one of the people that's like, listen, someone needs to do something. That's too much illegal voting. Let's just play along. Which is why they went into Fulton county, by the way. Remember, they believe that there was cheating in 2020. Even though Trump's own supporters, his attorneys, Republican judges, everyone has looked at that. They've done a recount, manual recount, no cheating. Was found in 2020 in Fulton County, Georgia. It was just not there. But let's just play along. That means that ultimately. Right. He wants to take away checks and balances.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

He doesn't want other eyes on this.

[B]

Correct.

[A]

Which leads to your point of the cheating. All of this is about sequestering, hiding, putting up some sort of block so that others cannot see what's going on.

[B]

And then you can take the election and then you're. And I've. What I said to Ebro last week was I'm actually surprised that this democracy thing has held up as well as it has it somehow fought against this through them trying to do it. But this one in Georgia where he's. They said he got on the phone and had a pep talk, like a one minute pep talk with the people that they sent in there to try to find the votes. He got them on the phone, was basically like hyping up like, go find these votes. Let's go get them. And you said, what's her face was there?

[A]

Tulsi Gabbard.

[B]

Gabbard. She's there. And he's hyping them up to go find. They only need to find 12,000 votes. Right. They're not there. They don't exist. But guys, they could. There are ballots. There could be unused ballots. Those ballots could all of a sudden get used.

[C]

I know.

[B]

Then they could be found. Then all of a sudden, even though everyone has said the claims of the 2020 election being rigged is completely false, he would have the proof that he needs that he completely created in front of our eyes. He's saying it. He's been doing it. Why are you still obsessed with this? The only reason he's still obsessed with this is because he thinks he could find it. He thinks there's a way he can get this done. Otherwise he would have moved on. He thinks he can do it and then he will never have to leave office.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And then the whole conversation about who's next for the Republicans.

[A]

Congratulations, Trump. You played yourself. Let's get to the gurus. It's guru time. You got. You got something ready?

[B]

Sure I do.

[A]

About to wrap up. Today we close out with the original gurus. There's a lot of politics today.

[C]

Let's zen.

[A]

How'd y' all feel about all the politics out there? We're zenning the ELR show. Subscribe. Share.

[C]

Are you done? The original gurusmail.com the original gurus. Gmail.com the gurus unite to shine the light. I Rosenberg, who's writing to us. Who needs us?

[A]

Zen a Zen a zen.

[B]

The original gurusmail.com. the original gurus. Gmail.com. your destination for clarity. All right, here we go. So happy you are. You all are still together. You got. Let me put them on.

[A]

We're not all. We got to find Cast One.

[B]

I. I saw him.

[A]

I talked to Cast One the other day.

[B]

What he said?

[A]

I asked him how much he was getting paid over there. So that way, you know what I'm saying? Like maybe. Maybe our subscribers or something get crazy. Laura will get this merch out. You know what I mean? We use some merch.

[B]

What about Laura's merch? Huh? Huh?

[A]

It's always your Laura's fault on the merch.

[B]

All right.

[A]

If we could sell merch every month, we could bring the crew back.

[C]

Hey, you never know.

[B]

We love you all. Shout out to the OG Gurus. Rosenberg, Laura and Shawnee. Even Cast one. Ebro, I love you, but you're not a guru. J. California. But you could participate. Participate. As long as you don't do the snorting thing. Please. We want to be Zen, Zen, Zen Zen. My very close friend has been in a bad relationship and has a child from the most recent one. Soon before getting pregnant, she was back and forth about the relationship and was even planning on how to get him out of her house. She told me that he doesn't treat her well, takes advantage, yells at her, etc. Basically every red flag besides hitting her. Well, she had the baby anyway and they are still together. I have supported her by validating her feelings when she complains and encourage her that she deserves to be treated better. She is now planning on getting pregnant again and wants me to be happier for her. I told her I will always love and support her and her children, but I am wondering why she is continuing with him. She asked for my opinion. I didn't just give it. I think she's decided to settle and is pretending things aren't bad, which is fine. It's her life. I don't think he's a good person because of how she told me he treats her. But when I see him and them together, they're always cordial. Or he's always cordial. She wants to double date and create some relationship between us which feels fake and weird. I'm trying not to judge, but how can I suddenly start hanging out with them together and celebrating their relationship when I know what's really going on? I want to support her, but how can I just pretend she's not in a toxic relationship? By her account, not my opinion. Can you even stay friends with someone who doesn't support your relationship? How. Thank you, gurus. You're all so loved and needed in the community.

[A]

Thanks. Wait, the gurus are needed in the community?

[B]

Yeah, I think everybody.

[A]

Oh.

[C]

I mean, I guess it all depends, because I. I had a friend like this, but this is my. My situation. I ended up cutting her off because I couldn't do it.

[A]

Why?

[C]

Well, she was being treated very badly. And then when it got physical and I helped and she still kept going back, I was like, I can't.

[A]

Yeah. Can't effort.

[C]

I cannot. I cannot be about this. Because then it started. It started affecting me emotionally. You know what I mean? And I was like, I don't want this type of.

[B]

That's like the classic you. You're walking down the street and you see a couple getting into it, and the guy steps in and is like, hey, man, back up.

[A]

That's happened to me before.

[B]

And then they turn around and try to punch you in the face.

[A]

Yeah, well, that's happened to me.

[C]

And I was about to call the cops, and they cursed me out.

[B]

And then the girl jumps in again. You're like, what?

[C]

I was like, I'm gonna call the cops. She was like, you better f. And.

[A]

I. I think once it gets physical, once I find out. I've had friends who I found out were, like, hitting their women or whatever. I can't rock with you. I can't. I thought. I don't like none of that. It's kind of like if I found out a friend was, like, doing cocaine or something like that. I can't. I can't. I can't.

[B]

I think. I think I'd have a tougher standard for the hitting than the cocaine.

[A]

No, I'm just saying there's certain things like, yo, you do coke, bro.

[B]

That's a. That's a line for you. And that's on the same field, though.

[A]

No, it's not. I'm just saying there's items. I'm running through the items. I'm running through my list.

[B]

I got news for you. You got friends that do coke.

[C]

What if.

[A]

Yeah, if they don't do it for me, I don't know.

[C]

What if you chew a mushroom?

[A]

Friends. I don't know if I got friends.

[D]

Yeah, you do.

[A]

I know people who do coke.

[B]

You got friends that do coke?

[A]

Friends, yeah. Guaranteed. You know this. You did coke with them.

[B]

I've never done coke, but I guarantee you have the way about coke that I always had growing up of like, oh, my God, you do that. Like, they said say no to drugs. I have that same thing. People who have partied in certain ways, it's not as big. It's not. I'm just being honest. It's just not as.

[A]

I'm gonna ask around today.

[C]

I mean, I know a lot of people who do coke.

[B]

Yeah, I know a lot. I've lots of.

[A]

Now, no. Do I know people who do coke? Yeah, you said friends. I don't consider a lot of people I know to be necessarily my friends.

[B]

I think they're. No, I think your friend. I think you're seeing it. I don't want to downplay it because I'm not trying to downplay it, but.

[A]

Like, I don't think coke's a big deal. I just don't hang out with people who do coke like that.

[B]

I don't think they do in front of you because they know that me and I don't. Not in front of me either, because we're both squares.

[A]

But just like, I wouldn't hang out with somebody who's hitting the wall.

[B]

No, it's not the same. It's a terrible comp. I want you to change it.

[C]

It's different.

[A]

No, I'm just saying these are my lines. I'm not saying it's the same. I'm not saying.

[B]

I'm telling you your lines are different because you're one of the lines. Your friends are doing lines.

[C]

Lines.

[A]

White line.

[B]

Yeah, I just don't think it's that sd.

[A]

But anyways, wait, so cokes is out here acceptable now? People just.

[B]

I think it's been that way forever. Yeah, I think it's pretty acceptable. But I. To me, I see it should be less acceptable considering all the nasty ish that's out here. You don't know what you're getting.

[C]

That's what I always tell my folks.

[A]

Fentanyl, right? That's causing the death. Is his fentanyl in the coke?

[B]

Correct.

[C]

That's what I tell them all the time. Are you gonna die?

[B]

The days of the 80s, that was at the time when they told us it was the worst. Was actually when you probably would have.

[A]

Been all right, can you casually.

[B]

That was the problem.

[A]

Can you casually be a Coke user or are you just using coke once? You're using coke like you got. You're using coke?

[B]

You really sound like me at 15 right now. It's crazy. No, they're definitely blue. Casually do it once, twice a year. They're at a party. Oh, it's the big. The Grammys.

[A]

And doing coke.

[B]

Yes, for sure. For sure.

[C]

There's lots of people who abuse it.

[B]

For sure. That too. I don't want to make it sound like there aren't cokeheads out here.

[A]

Yes, but I didn't know how close you. I didn't know what the line is. Like. I don't know how addictive it is.

[B]

I have mad, mad friends and loved ones who have done coke and are not cokeheads.

[A]

Got it?

[B]

Got it. For sure. Matter of fact, what are you guys doing? I. I do want to try, but it's too late now. I'm 46.

[A]

I don't like it. I never liked how they talk about it like, you stay up. Why do I want to stay up?

[B]

But yeah, it goes real quick, too.

[A]

And why do I want any of this?

[C]

I just don't trust what's in it.

[B]

That's.

[A]

Well, that was before that, but it was when I was like, why wants.

[B]

To know about her relationship. We just left.

[A]

Someone's doing coke.

[B]

They're doing coke out here, lady. I don't. I'll say this. You didn't tell us that this guy's abusing her. You said that she complains about him being kind of crappy and, like, not treating her great and their relationship sounds toxic. I'm not trying to downplay that, but without any specific information, if she's telling you this is the relationship she wants to be in, and sometimes the guy's an a hole, but she wants to have another kid with him and she loves him. Unless she has told you something that you know is like, oh, my God, that's beyond the pale.

[D]

Right?

[B]

We all have friends that are in a toxic relationship.

[A]

Is he doing coke?

[C]

And, you know what?

[A]

Is he hitting her? Like, what are we talking about?

[B]

Those are the two things.

[C]

Try going on the double date and see how it goes. If he's terrible on the double date.

[B]

She already said he's not. That's the thing. She already said in person. He's like, really cordial. I think you just gotta. She's your friend.

[C]

You gotta do the dance.

[A]

Well, you know, the dance. Do the dance, do the dance. Where's the dance?

[B]

And if it gets bad, then stop doing the dance.

[C]

That's it.

[B]

But right now it just sounds like they fight sometimes. And she complains to you and now you're like, I don't want to. You should. Come on, just do the dance.

[A]

And people do dance when they're doing coke, by the way.

[B]

So you can't stop now.

[A]

You know. And they probably would dance to this terrible music.

[B]

That's right. Hey, buddy. Got some. What did you bring? Let's go.

[D]

Let's go.

[B]

Bathroom.

[A]

Hey. Do the dance. All right.

[C]

Hope that helped.

[B]

Yeah, that is.

[A]

Yo, listen, man. It's a good time today, man. Thanks for joining the program.

[B]

I heard a lot today. Oh, boy.

[A]

Listen, subscribe and like, please, like. It was brought to my attention courtesy of Rosenberg and King Lou. That y'.

[B]

All.

[A]

Y' all in there chatting, but we ain't getting the likes, so hit the like button. It helps the algorithm. It helps more people get exposed to the program, more exposure, obviously. Make sure we can keep this thing running it. Because we're currently running this thing off our own gumption.

[B]

Yeah. Do you. My man sent a couple of suggestions for the do the Dance shirt just now.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Oh, yes. Okay. Okay.

[B]

One looks like it's Prince themed, which is interesting.

[A]

It's definitely Prince thing.

[B]

Yes. Do the dance.

[C]

I kind of like it, though.

[B]

I kind of like it, too. That's actually like a dope looking shirt.

[C]

Yeah. Oh, my God.

[B]

Then he said. What's that? A marionette. What are those?

[A]

Marionette. But it's given. It's given menstrual. Mary.

[B]

It's given to menstrual. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I got you. This is more straightforward to do the dance. Do the dance.

[A]

But that's. That looks like a cheerleader font.

[B]

Oh, yeah, it does. Like a Laker Girl. It's giving. It's giving Laker Girls.

[A]

There you go.

[C]

All right, all right.

[B]

And then this is more like big, shiny, bootleg kind of vibes. Do the Dance. I don't love that one.

[A]

That's giving. Flash dance.

[B]

It's giving. More flashing. My favorite of them so far is actually the Prince vibes. Vibes. But. But I'd want to see maybe a little bit of an. A shoulder shimmy in it somehow. I don't know how to do it. Well, we'll figure it out. Shout out to Chase. We're working on it.

[A]

Oh, Chase, thanks for the graphics.

[B]

Thanks, bro.

[A]

See you tomorrow. Remember, we're dropping a Patreon today, so lock in on that and then we'll be back in LA manana. I gotta travel to San Francisco, super bowl time, so I gotta go. Yo. I gotta go do the dance.

[B]

Oh, he's out there dancing, pal. He's doing all the dances. Have a good time.

[C]

Have fun.

[B]

Oh, oh, oh, oh. He's gonna be in the sweet. Not putting on. I won't say he puts on a white voice. But it will. There's little. He takes the bass down like he turns the bass from. How you doing? Hey, man. How are you? So nice to meet you.

[A]

Yeah, man.

[B]

Pleasure. Oh, yeah, no, I, I. Melania, it looks like a pretty good doc. I mean, everyone deserves to have their story.

[A]

Whoa. Whoa. That's nice.

[C]

Wow. Wow.

[A]

Actually, no, everybody does deserve this.

[B]

That's right. She was just a poor girl from where she. Latvia.

[A]

She was just a mail order. Just don't call it a podcast.