30.) Shaboozey's GRAMMY Speech, More Epstein Conspiracies, + Ebro at the Super Bowl (2/5/26)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show

Episode 30: Shaboozey’s GRAMMY Speech, More Epstein Conspiracies, + Ebro at the Super Bowl
Date: February 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode buzzes with lively debate and banter as Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg break down the latest in pop culture, news controversies, and personal stories with trademark candor and humor. Key subjects include reactions to Shaboozey’s GRAMMY speech and the debates it sparked, renewed (and ever-evolving) Epstein conspiracy discourse, Melania Trump’s new documentary and its problematic director, mass media layoffs, the shifting focus of Super Bowl halftime shows (with Bad Bunny at the center this year), and sticky questions about celebrity family obligations—with a detour into sports and even competitive toe wrestling.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Kicking Off with New York Dog Doodoo and Social Responsibility

[Starts ~00:27]

• Complaints about the plague of dog poop and snow piles in New York lead to a moral debate about public responsibility.
  • Rosenberg jokes that violators should be jailed, then quickly scales it to fines.
  • Ebro likens escalating fines to consequences for border-crossing offenses, emphasizing disproportionate punishment debates in the U.S.
• Memorable Quote:

  “If you literally could watch your dog drop a huge deuce and not try to cover it... to me, that is so diabolical. I would have no problem with you being tossed in a cell for a day.” — Rosenberg [03:03]

Timestamps:

• 00:27 – 06:29 Euphemistic, then pointed, conversation on dog poop, fines, jail and public respect.

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2. Epstein Files, Maxwell, & Conspiratorial Thinking

[06:41]

• Ebro brings up the continued focus on Ghislaine Maxwell—“the only woman involved is in jail”—and the lack of pursuit for any implicated men.
• Breakdown of Maxwell’s role as recruiter/madam, and discussion of Epstein’s “alleged” death and growing public skepticism about it.
• Ebro and Rosenberg ruminate on the increasing skepticism people have toward mainstream stories, referencing 9/11 and October 7th.
• Memorable Quote:

  “You’re not full 180 on conspiracies... but you’re almost to where I’m at.” — Ebro to Rosenberg [09:42]
  “I’ve always been a sneaky 9/11 conspiracy theorist... I guess I’m getting there.” — Rosenberg [10:07]

Timestamps:

• 06:41 – 12:07 Discussion of Maxwell’s prosecution vs. male offenders, Epstein’s “death,” and shifting attitudes toward conspiracies.

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3. Melania Trump’s Documentary & Brett Ratner’s Connections

[12:17]

• The hosts dissect the optics of Melania Trump’s new documentary, highlighting the problematic choice of Brett Ratner (named in both MeToo and Epstein files) as director.
• Play-by-play analysis of an Instagram breakdown by “Debunction Junction,” linking Ratner, Epstein, Jean-Luc Brunel, and Hollywood’s circle of creeps.
• The point: in a world where Amazon can spend $75 million on a Melania doc directed by someone perpetually in scandal, where is the accountability?
• Quotes:

  “He just happens to go to this event and then ends up cuddling with not one, but two of the worst sex traffickers of minor girls of all time.” — Debunction Junction via Ebro [16:47]
  “How many creeps can you be associated with?” — Rosenberg [18:05]

Timestamps:

• 12:17 – 19:00 Ratner, Melania doc, Hollywood, linking to mass layoffs.

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4. Media Layoffs and “Control of the Narrative”

[19:07]

• They critique Jeff Bezos’s firing of a third of Washington Post staff, attributing it to the economics of owning media as “access and control” rather than genuine journalism.
• Ebro points out that once news depended on advertising, it tilted toward entertainment not pure information.
• Comparison to DIY, AI-replaced journalism on YouTube and Instagram.

Timestamps:

• 19:07 – 23:32 Bezos, layoffs, and changing face of “news.”

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5. Super Bowl Media Madness & the Bad Bunny Culture War

[25:03]

• Ebro shares his first impressions from San Francisco ahead of the Super Bowl, with tales of radio row chaos and anticipation for Bad Bunny’s halftime show.
• Heated discussion about backlash against a Spanish-language artist as headliner—debating whether it’s genuine confusion, racism, or resentment over changing cultural relevance.
• They point out the selective nostalgia of critics who weren’t outraged over previous acts, and how the “center” of U.S. pop culture is no longer guaranteed.
• Quotes:

  “The people you’re talking about are accustomed to knowing everything that they see is tailored for them... but Spanish, another language?” — Ebro [29:03]
  “This is a, quote, political issue just shows that the politics of the right is based in xenophobia and racism.” — Rosenberg [30:50]

Timestamps:

• 25:03 – 34:58 Ebro at Super Bowl, Bad Bunny halftime, right-wing/backlash to cultural shift.

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6. Sports Detours – Super Bowl & NBA All-Star “Celebrities”

[34:58]

• Resigned takes on the Super Bowl as “not for hardcore football fans,” the theatre of the halftime show, and the absurdity of All-Star celebrity game lineups (“Who is Jenna Bandy?”).
• Briefing on how the NBA’s own tweaks have dulled its All-Star game.

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7. Glorilla Family Drama & Obligations of Fame

[41:29–47:09]

• Recap of Glorilla’s public feud with her sister over alleged lack of family support—exposing car gifts, rent money grievances, and the pettiness of “airing out” family on social media.
• Ebro and Rosenberg both skeptical of the internet sibling's complaints, with Ebro sharing his own tough love approach:

  “Y’all gotta be more like me. Just because you family. I don’t give a damn, bro. If you moving funny, you get cut off, too.” [45:57]

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8. Floyd Mayweather Lawsuit & Sports Racket

[47:09]

• Floyd sues Showtime and Al Haymon for allegedly misappropriating $340 million of his earnings—sparking debate over whether Mayweather “ripped off” fans with underwhelming big-budget fights.
• They contrast Floyd’s heel persona with wrestling’s kayfabe, and discuss how money and image tangle in combat sports.

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9. Epstein Fallout: Melinda Gates NPR Interview

[51:50]

• Laura plays Melinda Gates’ recent NPR remarks, where Melinda responds to Bill Gates’s named connection in the new Epstein files, alleged affairs, and supposed efforts to give her medicine for an STD without her knowledge.
• She expresses “unbelievable sadness,” focuses on the young girls victimized, and emphasizes her relief at being out of the “muck.”
• Quotes:

  “No girl should ever be put in the situation that they were put in by Epstein and whatever was going on with all the various people around him... it’s just beyond heartbreaking.” — Melinda Gates [53:11]

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10. Super Chats, Toe Wrestling, & Listeners’ Requests

[58:30]

• Listener engagement: shoutouts to their most active Super Chatters.
• Ebro introduces a viral “toe wrestling” sport video to general amazement—turns out it’s a real event, with sponsors and rules.

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11. Shaboozey’s GRAMMY Speech Controversy

[64:45]

• Shaboozey faced backlash after his awards speech, where some felt he overstated immigrants’ role in building America, omitting the foundational role of enslaved Africans.
• The crew break down social media outrage and question whether clarifications/apologies were necessary, with Rosenberg calling it a form of “Twitter terrorism.”
• In-depth push-pull discussion about the obligations of public figures, cancel culture, sensitivity, erasure, and Black History Month overlaps.
• Quotes:

  “If you’re anyone, when you get up there... and you leave out one word, you need to then be destroyed for it. As if he doesn’t appreciate the contributions...That’s some All Lives Matter bull.” — Rosenberg [66:32]
  “Immigrants didn’t build the country... you don’t have a country without the slave labor that... built the entire economy.” — Ebro [67:03]

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12. The “Guru” Segment – Listener Advice Letter

[72:22]

• Advice for a 33-year-old gay, first-generation Mexican American in Texas who left retail management to pursue copywriting and is struggling with self-doubt.
• Advice: Find immediate employment to support yourself, nurture your ambition on the side, build community, and stop making your roots a reason to feel like an impostor.

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Notable Quotes by Segment

| Timestamp | Speaker | Quote | |----------------|--------------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 03:03 | Rosenberg | “If you literally could watch your dog drop a huge deuce and not try to cover it... toss[ed] in a cell.” | | 09:42 | Ebro | “You’re not full 180 on conspiracies... but you’re almost to where I’m at.” | | 18:05 | Rosenberg | “How many creeps can you be associated with?” | | 29:03 | Ebro | “People...are accustomed to knowing everything... is tailored for them... but Spanish, another language?”| | 30:50 | Rosenberg | “This is a, quote, political issue just shows...the right is based in xenophobia and racism.” | | 45:57 | Ebro | “Just because you family. I don’t give a damn, bro. If you moving funny, you get cut off, too.” | | 53:11 | Melinda Gates| “No girl should ever be put in the situation that they were put in by Epstein...” | | 67:03 | Ebro | “You don’t have a country without the slave labor that... built the entire economy.” | | 66:32 | Rosenberg | “That’s some All Lives Matter bull... He was up there ‘cause that house is on fire right now.” |

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Segment Timestamps (Quick Reference)

• 00:27 – 06:29: Dog doo, social contract, border comparison
• 06:41 – 12:07: Epstein case, Maxwell, conspiracy culture
• 12:17 – 19:00: Melania doc, Ratner, Hollywood connections
• 19:07 – 23:32: Bezos, Washington Post, media control
• 25:03 – 34:58: Ebro at Super Bowl, Bad Bunny halftime discourse
• 34:58 – 39:06: Sports, Super Bowl/All-Star game/Celebrity lineup
• 41:29 – 47:09: Glorilla family feud, celebrity obligations
• 47:09 – 50:39: Floyd Mayweather lawsuit, sports as “racket”
• 51:50 – 57:55: Melinda Gates’ Epstein-related NPR interview
• 58:30 – 64:24: Supe chatters, toe wrestling, fun diversions
• 64:45 – 71:33: Shaboozey’s GRAMMY speech debate, cancel culture
• 72:22 – End: Listener “Guru” advice, encouragement

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Tone & Language Highlights

• Authentic, Interactive, and Candid: Banter moves seamlessly from laughs to serious topics, with each host maintaining their usual direct, irreverent style.
• Sharp Social Commentary: On media, race, culture, and power—never shying from sensitive or political territory.
• Audience Inclusion: Frequent shout-outs, reading chat comments, engaging directly with listeners.
• Self-aware Humor: The crew jest about their own technical hiccups and the occasionally meandering nature of the show.

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Memorable/Light Moments

• Dog Poop Laws: Calls for jail time for “do doo” violators evoke equal parts mock outrage and genuine frustration.
• Toe Wrestling Discovery: The gang’s amazement at this odd “sport” creates a viral moment.

  “Some creep with a foot fetish came up with this competition in the first place.” — Ebro [62:15]

• Laura’s Rising Eyebrow: Listeners request Laura to hit the “People’s Eyebrow” on command; she delivers.

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Final Thoughts

This episode offers both hilarity and incisive commentary on the absurdities of modern celebrity, politics, and the shifting ground of American pop culture. If you missed it, you’ll walk away knowing not only what’s trending, but also how today’s big stories fit a much broader picture of generational change, persistent social battles, and the never-ending quest for accountability.

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Transcript

[A]

Just don't call it a podcast. Hey. Oh, hey. Oh, hey. Good morning, everyone. It's Ebro. Laura Rosenberg. Sorry, we're tardy. I don't know what that was. We got a countdown. Then I heard a beat. Then I.

[B]

It's this one day that my biggest goal for this show is that when the countdown ends, the show starts.

[A]

I wonder what that is.

[B]

Yo, it's the 3, 2, 1.

[C]

And.

[A]

Then you wait, and you wait. I'm on positive vibes, though. I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna tell you guys that it's Rahsaan's fault. I'm not gonna do that.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[A]

I'm not gonna. I'm not gonna wonder why it's happening and there's been no communication about it. You know what I'm saying? I'm not go again next week. See, but this is the problem I have. I have. This is the problem I have with life. People like you who settle. That's why there's doo doo so much doodle on your block right now. That attitude is why there's so much doodoo on your block. Overall, it's good. No, it's not. The doo doo stuck to the ice. After a few days of people's dog dudes sticking to ice in New York, now it just looks like there's doo doo marked all over the sidewalk. It's not okay.

[D]

It's so nasty.

[A]

And so you people don't really want to take things serious. You got dooo on your block.

[D]

Doodle on your block, dooo on your block.

[B]

Yo, I thought that this was EO's BE. I'm going be chill through the weekend. How do we get here?

[A]

Well, because. Yeah, it's good. Overall, it's not good enough.

[B]

Well, no, sometimes I'm just saying that to wrap up the conversation so I can keep you on the. Try to keep you on the rails.

[A]

But I miss now, you know that's going to. You step right in. In the.

[B]

Is right in the. Dude, I will say it's. It is outside. It is nuts that people in New York right now have just full on given up. Like in my neighborhood up here on the Upper west side, it is just snow and piles of ish everywhere.

[C]

Ew.

[D]

So disgusting.

[B]

Like, you have a big dog. I'm not talking about you had a Maltese or a shih Tzu. I'm talking about you walked outside with a damn rottweiler or a German shepherd and just let that joint drop on the side.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

Yo, jail, jail, throw Them right in jail.

[A]

You're saying jail over doo doo from a dog in 2026 there. I can't even fathom putting somebody in jail over that.

[D]

All right, not jail, but like a ticket. A good one.

[B]

Yeah, fine, fine. How about that? How about a good 250?

[D]

Because people get too comfortable, too loose, leaving dookie everywhere.

[A]

It's just you went from jail to 250, which tells me I've never been in j. I know you've never been in jail. Jail for 250 is a big jump.

[B]

It's. Listen, I'm just saying this for me. If you literally could watch your dog drop a huge deuce and not try to cover it, not look around and ask someone for a bag. Because usually in New York, if you wait in the city, Laura, for a good 60 seconds, some other dog person's coming by and you're like, do you have a bag? And then you can pick it up and do it. If you just watch them drop a huge ish and straight up, keep walking. And to me, that is so diabolical. I would have no problem with you being tossed in a cell for a day. Think about that. Why do you treat your city like that? Now, keep in mind, I don't feel much different. By the way, I would do a day in jail if I saw someone driving down the street and when they finished their food, because this is a New York thing, too. They just take their big thing of garbage and drop it out the window. Jail. Drive them right to jail. Yeah, that's great. That is crazy. You would do that to the place that you live.

[D]

I know.

[B]

These are anabolic people.

[A]

Listen, listen, I agree. I would like to say, you know, if you're willing to do that sort of thing, you need some sort of hefty punishment, right? Hefty punishment. Because it would have to be. It would have to start somewhere. It would be like crossing the border multiple times, right? If you cross the border or overstay your welcome here in or in any country, right? It starts with a fine. Some countries, a little bit more aggressive. But the United States of America, you cross the border or you overstay your visa, it is a civil misdemeanor. It starts with a fine. Okay, Then. And then sometimes that fine could go upwards of like $5,000. Okay? Then after that, multiple offenses, they start talking about jail.

[B]

I don't like.

[A]

You just.

[B]

I don't like the comp. I don't like the comp.

[D]

Yeah, I don't like it either.

[A]

Well. Well, that's why I'm bringing it up. That's why I'm bringing it up. No, no, because they crossing the border, it's jail. And I'm telling you, it's not even. That's not even jail. You guys are jumping to jail over dog poo and litter. There's people who jump. I'm trying to give you context. You're not even picking up on it. There are people who think that the border is jail, and I'm telling you it's not. But now it's detention center. It's concentration camp. You might die. You might get raped, you might get sexually assaulted. You. You definitely won't get your medicine. And the guards who are watching you at the ICE facility are gonna laugh in your face when you need your medicine or you want to use the bathroom or you want to bathe.

[B]

But the thing that you're talking about showed no moral lapse. The thing that Laura and I are discussing shows. I know that there are people around me. I know that we share this community. I don't care about them. Garbage in your face. People who just want to be in this country.

[A]

Listen, this is a phenomenon that's. And I agree with you, but I'm just letting you know that the way we're in the upside down world.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

It's this where literally. Listen, A lot of people who are in this country literally drove through a legal port. They didn't swim across a river or sneak in on a boat. They drove in in a car through a legal port. Most of them by percentage. And they're getting treated like you guys want to treat people who don't pick up dog do.

[B]

Yeah, well, it's not right. Okay? The dog do people deserve. That's the worst of the worst. They. They wanted. They want to get rid of the worst of the worst. Start with the dog do people.

[A]

Well, how about this? We can't even low right now. I thought about this yesterday with all the Epstein noise, right? The abuse of women, the abuse of children, trafficking young girls. All the Epstein. You know, who's actually in jail. The only woman who was involved.

[B]

Oh, yeah, true.

[D]

Yeah. Yeah. She's the only one right now. That's so funny. I didn't even think about that.

[A]

Yes, the one is the woman. None of the men. And they're not even. There's not even conversation about prosecuting people.

[B]

Well, now that I'm just trying to understand, like, where Maxwell. Like, what her actual role was besides being friend of Epstein who helps.

[A]

No, she was like the madam. She was the recruiter. She was the recruiter. She was the. The madam, the. The babysitter, the. You know what I mean? The. The whole thing.

[D]

Yeah, she was very much a part of it, so.

[B]

But was she. But, like, for example.

[A]

And. And I guess allegedly his girlfriend, too.

[B]

But, like, for example, when. Laura. Is there any way you could push your laptop back a tiny bit to make you the same height as me and eo?

[D]

Oh, okay.

[B]

Our inconsistency is bothering. Oh, they're getting smaller.

[A]

Somebody with some quality control. God damn it. This is what I like to see.

[B]

You're still taller than us. Can you do, like. Can you turn. Turn the la.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[A]

Oh, that's really what it is. Rosenberg doesn't want you taller than him.

[B]

No, no, no. I don't care who.

[A]

Who.

[B]

I don't want any of us taller than each other. Almost there. There you go. She's dropping down. There she is.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

My thing with Maxwell, though, like, when. When people would go hire Epstein, right? Epstein's out there. People know, hey, I want to. I want to get X politician to do X thing. Do we have any dirt on them? I want to get the US to do X thing for Israel. Russia wants to get the US to do this. Oh, we got this guy Epstein. He's got dirt on everyone. Were they hiring, like, were they hiring her as well, you think, or. She just worked directly for him and he just.

[A]

Her dad. Her dad was the most famous Mossad agent in, like, history. So that's just that part. So she's already in. It's kind of already in there. And then. Yes, her and Epstein were working together. That's how. I mean, why do you think she's in jail? I'm thinking it's because her.

[B]

No, no, obviously they were all over.

[A]

And he's dead, and he's allegedly dead. You know, people are going with allegedly dead, by the way now.

[B]

Yeah, I don't. I don't. Oh, I'm with. I'm on the he's not dead situation.

[D]

Really?

[B]

I feel like there's a good chance. I mean, he did so many. He did so much work for so many different people. You know what I mean? I just think. And although, I don't know, he would have been probably useful dead for some. For people as well, of course. So it's kind of a tough call, but I sort of lean towards. There's a good chance he's not dead.

[D]

Interesting.

[A]

Well, since we're on the Epstein thing and Rosenberg, I'm glad so much crazy stuff has gone on that now, when you used to. We used to do the show together. You would rarely wanna believe a conspiracy theory. You're not full 180 on conspiracies and theories and corruption and cronyism. But you're getting. You're almost to where I'm at.

[B]

I think I'm similar to where you're at. I just think sometimes you say it. I think you're more apt to say it like. And you don't always necessarily believe it all the way, but it makes for a fun conversation. And maybe I'm less apt to say it, but like, I don't think it's. Everything is the conspiracy theory. But listen, I've always been a sneaky 911 conspiracy theorist. I just kind of like, I don't. I don't know enough to understand it, but I just saw things that happened that didn't make sense to me. Right. I'm certainly an October 7th conspiracy theorist where I certainly think that there was people in power that let that happen. So when, you know, I, I guess I'm. I guess I'm getting there.

[D]

Maybe that upside down tin hat back.

[B]

Yeah, Tin hat back.

[A]

Tin hat back.

[B]

It's different than Shawnee's tin hat. This is a different kind of tin hat. But yeah, for the big stuff, I'm kind of tin.

[A]

Well, Shawnee, Shawnee. It's all corrupt and there's. There's no one good. It's, it's, it's.

[D]

We're all Babylon.

[A]

It's rotten to the core. And there's. And there's no hope. So I'm just going to pay my taxes and not participate in the system. By participating in the system.

[B]

That's. That's safe too. That one. I can't do the like. Oh, they're all bad.

[D]

I can't either.

[B]

I hate. I have other friends at my other job like that too. Like, you bring up politics. I don't want to talk about politics. They're all bad, bro. That's very lazy. We are being very lazy here.

[D]

And you have to live here. You have to deal with the consequences. So wouldn't you want to have a say Again.

[B]

Again, it's the same. Do you want the we're offering you a bird doo doo sandwich or we have a pretty dry grilled chicken. It's got some honey mustard. It's edible. This bird doo doo is horrible. They're all bad.

[A]

Just give me the bird doo. I just want to point out we've talked about doo doo. We've only been on the air for, you know, 12 minutes. We've spent a lot of doodoo in the first 12. Hit us with the button. It is. Well, it is fitting. It's also. It's also, you know, it's also. Dude talk. You played yourself. There's a few items I want to get to. One of my. One of my favorite followers on Instagram is this IG account called Debunction Junction.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

The guy. The guy basically, you know, he basically goes and points out things, the goings ons, whether it's true or false or who's saying what, or this side is saying that. And anyway, he felt the need to delve into this Melania movie.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

Did you guys see Melania? I think it was just yesterday or the day before. She had some hostages who were released. They were there and she. She wanted to slide in the promo of her movie. And then one of the reporter asked her, is it. Is this a good time while you're sitting here with these people who just got released to be talking about your movie? And she was like, this isn't promo, but she just promoted her movie.

[B]

I did not.

[A]

And we. And by the way. And by the way, we never see Melania talk really, ever. But now you're sitting down with the press there, and it's not a movie, but there's a. There's a. We were talking about Epstein, but there's another tie in. Go to the Debunction Junction. Brett Ratner clip.

[D]

Let's see. I'm curious about this.

[A]

Yeah, I thought it would.

[B]

We were in such a great space.

[D]

I definitely saw her sitting up there.

[E]

All right, so we all know Melania Trump has a new documentary out, but did you know of all the people they could have picked to direct this thing, they had to pick this guy, Brett Ratner, who, you guessed it is in the Epstein files. But it's not like Brett Ratner wasn't a problematic person person prior to this Epstein dump. That's right. In 2017, at the height of the MeToo movement, six actresses told the Los Angeles Times that a prominent Hollywood director, that's Brett Ratner, was sexually violent towards them. And after Brett here was implicated in those Epstein files, Piers Morgan here decided to ask him about it.

[A]

As you know, the picture came out.

[B]

Of you with Jeffrey Epstein with two.

[A]

Apparently young women in it. What is your response to that picture and what is your response to the wider scandal of the Epstein files?

[B]

Oh, well, that particular picture. That picture in particular happened around 20 years ago.

[A]

20, 19.

[B]

20 to 21 years ago, because that is a photograph of my fiance who.

[A]

Invited me to this event, and that's.

[B]

Where the picture was taken. I had never been in contact with Jeffrey Epson before that photo, and I was never in contact with him after.

[A]

So that's a picture of me and.

[B]

My fiance at some event.

[E]

All right, so there you have Brett's explanation, but let's get some facts straight before we dig into this a little bit deeper. So, yeah, according to Brett, this picture is from 20 years ago, around 2006. He says the photo was taken at an event, which sounds like it's a big thing with a ton of different people. And then he says he was never in contact with Epstein before or after that night. So let's take a look here. And here is the that picture that was shown on Piers Morgan. Now, I don't know about you, but when I'm at some big event, I don't usually cuddle up to someone I've never known before. And I also want you to look at these pictures that are behind here. And that's because in that same document dump, there was this photo that has those same two pictures that are here and here. And it also includes this big smiling guy here. But who is this guy that was also at this event? Well, thanks to this photo of that silence, same smiling guy with bread, in the same clothes, and that same white couch behind him, we know that this guy is none other than Jean Luc Brunel. But who is Jean Luc Brunel? Well, as it turns out, In February of 2022, Jean Luc Brunel, just like Epstein, was found dead in a prison cell. And it says down here that the 76 year old had been held for over a year as he was investigated on suspicion of the grape of miners and. And trafficking of minors for sexual exploitation. Gosh, what bad luck for Brett Ratner, huh? He just happens to go to this event and then ends up cuddling with not one, but two of the worst sex traffickers of minor girls of all time. And I think another important detail that Brett happened to leave out is where exactly was this party taking place? Well, if you look at the lampshade here, the white curtain, and these two architectural things on these doors here, and we go over here and we see those same two architectural things, the same lamp and the same curtain, and we go ahead and pull this out of the way, you'll see this was a story that said Jeffrey Epstein's New York townhouse to sell for roughly 50 million. And for a guy who said he only had contact with Jeffrey Epstein that one time in 2006. It's not great that when you enter Brett Ratner into the full library, you get 68 results. And some of these entries certainly imply that there was a relationship going on after that 2006 meeting. Like this one. That's to Brett Ratner about Jeffrey Epstein. And it says, hello, Brett, Jeffrey would like to speak with you regarding redacted or this 2012 email from publicist Peggy Siegel to Jeffrey Epstein that says sitting next to Brett Ratner, he produced Woody's three hour documentary that just was shown at Cannes. We are about to see Roman Polanski's documentary. Brit says hi and he loves you. And it's just beyond a coincidence that Trump could have hired any one of a thousand directors to direct his wife's documentary. But he free Epstein, bro.

[A]

Incredible.

[B]

This guy goes hard, bro.

[D]

The Internet is amazing. They're better than the FBI. They just break it down. They're like, check out this lampshade. I'm like, you're like, oh, my God, it is the same one.

[B]

People have time. You could have just told me, you know, Brett Ratner, he's a bad guy. I would have been like, yep, I know. That was the craziest part to me is that Brett and that one email he's reaching out to. His person's reaching out to Jeffrey Epstein as he just directed a movie about Woody Allen and he's about to go watch a movie about Roman Polanski. Yo, my man, how many creeps can you be associated with?

[D]

I know, bro. It's creep upon creep upon creep.

[B]

And this is who is directing the great film Milan, which, which is Amazon, spent $75 million.

[A]

48, which people are 40 something million in to just to do it and another 30 something million to market it.

[B]

So. And what people are saying is that basically it was just a gift to Donald Trump. It was just Jeff Bezos being like, hey, we'll spend 75 on your million on your movie. Do you know what? The movie, which they're considering, they're choosing to consider a success as a documentary. Over its first weekend, it made $7 million. Now they're saying that's pretty decent for a documentary. I'll tell you what, it still ain't getting you back to the 75 million that you spent to put it out.

[A]

Well, and it's not getting these people.

[B]

Jeff Bezos has plenty of money, right?

[A]

Well, yeah, but that's, but that's why.

[B]

One third of the Washington.

[A]

I was just about to say that Just about to say that. You know how many people lost their jobs yesterday? So you spent $70 million on this movie nobody's going to see to kiss up to the president, and then you just fired regular folks, you know, at the Washington Post. Was it only one third? It seemed like more than that. Was the whole sports department?

[B]

Well, no, it's one third overall staff, including shuttering the entire sports desk, which is, you know, just for. Just for selfish, personal reasons. The sports desk of my childhood, my entire life. I mean, talking about big names. Thomas Boswell, Mike Wilbond, Sally Jenkins. What? Tony Kornheiser, one of the great sports pages of all time.

[A]

Gone.

[D]

Yeah. Also the foreign death. So all the international coverage, a lot of the reporters that are in the Middle east or wherever they're reporting from, they just got an email and be like, yep, you're clipped. And they're just like, have you ever.

[B]

Have you ever heard of anything like this before? Where, like, a rich guy who makes money on the Internet, goes off and buys a big piece of media and then for some reason looks around and is like, I don't know how to make money with this media outlet. Let me fire everyone and see if I start making money.

[A]

Let me think.

[B]

Let me never.

[A]

Let me tell you.

[B]

Why do they keep doing this? Why do they keep buying these media?

[A]

Because they want access.

[D]

Control.

[A]

Control. Access. Control. The narrative.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Remember, all of this is about everything you're seeing in the media and is about control, which is why so much has moved to where we've moved, you know, and many people started it first. And it's always, by the way, if we're being honest, it's always been about control.

[B]

Control.

[A]

There's never been. There's been, quote, unquote, freedom of the press, for sure. But remember, once the news became something that advertisers needed to advertise against to justify it, its existence. Right. That's when it slid into more salaciousness and more entertainment value because they wanted to sell advertising. And I want you to know something about our American culture. Here in the United States, we don't tune into things just because we want information and knowledge. That's not what's John Blaze out here.

[B]

I guess not, right?

[A]

We don't just watch this because it's. It's good to be informed and knowledgeable. It's just not. We only realize that pluck an emotional cord for us.

[B]

But why can't the newspaper. I was having this discussion yesterday. I don't understand why there's a lot of Free content available on the Internet. And these places, whether it be YouTube or whoever, have figured out how to make money. Even though the consumer doesn't want to pay, they figured out a way to make money. Why are these news outlets now not able to figure out a way? Or is it that their owners don't want to figure out a way to have them more profitable? You know what I'm saying?

[A]

Well, you would have to look. You would have to look into what is actually profitable on YouTube and, and how much money they're spending to operate it. I don't know if they, if like YouTube is, is really. We're operating our own YouTube space, they just give us space. Right. Like, it doesn't require person to actually run the Ebro. Laura Rose. We're. We're paying the person.

[B]

Right?

[A]

Not YouTube. You know, I'm saying, so imagine if YouTube had to staff someone for every thing that got posted on you.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

It probably wouldn't be as, as, as financially successful. It's a diy, right?

[B]

I. Maybe, maybe there was a way to do that with media, though.

[D]

But they're trying, they're trying to replace people with AI, bro. That's what it is. I saw a couple of the notes. It was just like, there's so many jobs now that can be replaced with AI. We don't need to pay these people. They truly believe that.

[A]

Cool. Well, no, it's just, you know, they don't have to believe it. It's, it's, it's. It's happening. It's already happening.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

And by the way, all the DIY journalism is on Instagram or on YouTube.

[D]

That's it.

[C]

Yep.

[B]

Now, Laura, this isn't AI. This is real life. We have more on the man who spent a hefty dollar in the super chat to say, hey, Laura, now that we have you on zoom again, can you hit us with the people's eyebrow periodically? Lol. Thank you.

[D]

That one.

[B]

Can you do it on command?

[D]

I think it's exactly.

[B]

Oh, she did it. She can't do it on command.

[A]

Wait, when would think for Laura?

[D]

I don't know. People always talk about. Because this eyebrow kind of just goes up sometimes.

[B]

It's. It's not really that she's hitting the people's eyebrow. It just goes rogue and people see it and then it pops them and.

[A]

They want, well, who's this happen? Super chat. You want to say their name?

[B]

I did more on the Man.

[A]

Oh, more on.

[D]

More on the Man.

[A]

Okay, I missed that part.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

I thought you were talking to the chat. I thought you were talking about Jeff Bezos. You were saying more on the man.

[B]

No, no, I don't want to say anything more about that bastard. Not a Bezos guy.

[A]

Well, listen, we do got to shout some super chatters. Do we have the list of super chatters there, Laura Styles? Because I know yesterday we were all hitting the road. We. We got to show up for everyone.

[B]

I only see this one super chatter so far.

[D]

Yeah, no, let me see. Well, some of the ones. I'm just gonna shout out people who have been supporting us. East Village, 5983. Let me see. Anchor Smith, 393. JW 4789. Oh, man. Yo, Rick. Yo, Rick. So shout out to you guys for always checking in with us.

[B]

I see him in the chat, too.

[A]

Hot Rod Rick was going down. I landed in San Francisco yesterday and, you know, had to immediately get to preparing for the press conference we have today with Bad Bunny to kick off, you know, the super bowl weekend at Apple music Super Bowl 60 halftime show. And so I was, you know, at the hotel I'm at. It's, you know, if you've ever been to San Francisco, you know, there's a lot of hills. Well, the hotel I'm at happens to be up on a hill.

[B]

And.

[A]

Okay, one of the streets looks straight down, you know, and in the distance, you can see the. The Golden Gate Bridge.

[D]

Oh, nice.

[A]

But I mean, it's, you know, that's nice. But you could kind. It was a clear day, so you could get a good a look. Anyway, I posted a photo in my stories. Hot Rod Rick was like, yo, how'd you get that? How'd you get out there so fast?

[B]

Magic of the show. He's speedy, you know, Got on the.

[A]

First thing smoking was out of there.

[B]

Yo, Ebro, tell us. Tell us about how Jabroni City it is. I know, listen. I know you can't bury the Super Bowl. The super. You know, it's Apple halftime shows.

[D]

What are you asking?

[B]

Just the super bowl media week has gotten so crazy that now because of the. The web and how many content creators there are, it's just. Oh, my God. I mean, when I went, it was already bad.

[A]

I don't know. You're saying the media room, like, where everyone is?

[B]

Yeah. Like, did you go. Did you. Do you spend any time at Radio Row?

[A]

I haven't gone through there. I was gonna go there today if I have time. I was once radio behind it. But where the press conference is, is.

[C]

Is.

[A]

Is separate it's in a different section, so I didn't walk through there, but people were telling me Stephen A. Smith was here. I was gonna go find him and see. See if we got face to face.

[D]

Oh, wow.

[A]

I don't know.

[B]

Interesting, to be honest.

[A]

What do you mean?

[D]

Wait, Ebro. So are you gonna.

[B]

Okay, well, I was just gonna say, I don't know, because you're not gonna back down. He's offended by the point you made.

[A]

Like, I was just gonna go over to him, hit my dancing music. I was going to roll up.

[D]

Oh, my God.

[A]

With the dancing music playing. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

You think. You think this is.

[A]

That's.

[B]

That's the wrong beat. I don't think this is a good idea.

[D]

No, I don't. I don't think it's a good idea either.

[B]

Hope you brought your dancing shoes.

[A]

Well, look, you know, look, Bad Bunny's performing. We're gonna be dancing. So. Stephen A. Now we need to be dancing.

[B]

I have a lot of Bad Bunny thoughts, but I feel like we save them for tomorrow for the Friday show. What do you think?

[A]

Bad Bunny thoughts. Why? Why? And why do you gotta save them?

[B]

Well, I don't know, because it's super bowl weekend and tomorrow's Friday. I don't know. I just feel. I am so annoyed with the conversation about Bad Bunny. Like, here, let me just. I'll sum it up like this, people. And this isn't just Right Wingers. This is not just the people. We know that there are the racists who are straight up, like, I don't want to hear no damn espan, yo. We know that crowd. But beyond that, you have a lot of people who aren't even that, who are just like, I don't know. Bad Bunny's music. It's not English. What we're not going to do is pretend like, every year's super bowl halftime performer is inclusive to absolutely every fan. Well, so that's what we're not going to do.

[A]

Well, guess what I mean.

[D]

Of course. But it's the espanol that bothers people, Rosenberg.

[A]

There's. There's people watching us right now who are accustomed to the world around them, not having them at the center of everything. The people you're talking about are accustomed to knowing everything that they see on the things that they love is tailored for them or they know something about it, at least.

[B]

If. Even if that means just understanding the language.

[A]

Especially at the super bowl, they are. Or anything involving NFL, they're accustomed to being like, oh, yeah, Leonard Skynyrd or Aerosmith or.

[B]

Okay, okay. Where were they last year for Kendrick Lamar? Who did the most inside. Yo, this man Kendrick was playing.

[A]

They were upset last year.

[B]

I.

[A]

They were upset last year.

[B]

Not like this. There. This is.

[A]

Well, that was because. That was because he's a black American and he's a rapper and they know. Oh, this is, this is some. They're accustomed to, like, okay. Black people doing something I'm not quite familiar with, but, you know, I'm accustomed to giving that space. But Spanish, another language.

[D]

It really is the Espanola.

[A]

They just know. They wouldn't be. They know black people ain't stepping down. You ain't scaring nobody. Matter of fact, we're gonna get louder. Oh, oh, you're uncomfortable. Let's take this up a notch. They're not. They're not accustomed. Listen. They're not accustomed to my Hispanic brothers and sisters turning it up a notch on their head top. And now, now, now. And now it's turned, it's up, and it's stuck, as they say.

[B]

I. I just am. The problem is I'm trying to have like a. A real conversation when I know it's really just based on fear, xenophobia, and racism. So I just try to respond to people by going, oh, really? You don't think you're gonna. You're not. Like, you don't. It's totally cool. You don't know his music. I, I imagine if you are coming from the standpoint of I don't know the music. Well, will I enjoy this performance? I think you'd be much more apt to enjoy this year than last year.

[A]

Okay, fair enough. Because it's an inside baseball rat sharing a. It's, it's.

[B]

It's dancing, it's fun, it's up tempo, it's singing. You're going to have a good time. But everyone that. But we know that's not what it's about. Like, the fact that this is a, quote, political issue just shows that the politics of the right is based in xenophobia and racism.

[D]

Yeah, we know that.

[A]

Yes. But it's also. Even if you consider yourself on the left and you're somehow off put by Bad Bunny being there and you not being familiar with his music, and you're like, I've never heard of this person. It's not about you. It's not about you. But join the party. Why don't you come learn something for a change? Why don't you just show up to something that may be familiar with and Have a good time. How about that? Have you ever thought about that? Are you just accustomed to being the center of the conversation all the time? And that's the piece. A lot of white people and Americans are accustomed.

[B]

It's not all white people. I'm here and have the conversation knowing.

[A]

Every detail of everything, especially at the halftime Super Bowl. And this time you might not, but. But by the way, there's tons of people. Bad Bunnies albums. Number one in China. Right? Like, it's. I saw that one all over the world. It's just.

[B]

They made this decision for a reason, guys. The 32 owners, who I wouldn't describe as progressive, all are okay with this happening. Why? Because more than any sort of political message, they care about the bottom line. The NFL wants to have games in friggin Nicaragua and China and Thailand.

[A]

They played an NFL football game in Brazil where nobody plays football way. They play it the international way.

[B]

They're doing this for a reason. And then also, we got to stop with the football fans. I was arguing this with Don and Allen yesterday. Football fans got to stop acting like the Super Bowl's even a football game. Like, you have to accept that the championship Sunday, that was two weeks ago, is the last day of true football. Accepted. Wait, the super bowl is gone. It's a holiday. It's not even real.

[A]

Wait, wait. I'm not a football watcher the way I used to be. But when I was. But when I was. I didn't even go to super bowl parties. I didn't like them. You know why? Too many casuals.

[B]

That's what it is, though.

[A]

I didn't like. And I never liked. I never liked the, the halftime. It was too long. It was too many commercials. I don't care. I want to watch football. The fact that people are just now coming to the realization that the super bowl, unless your team's in it, is not really about, quote, unquote, hardcore football fans is a button. Hit the button. You should have been like, how are you just coming to this conclusion? Congratulations, you played. There's not even real football fans really at the damn game.

[B]

Of course not. No.

[D]

People are like, they. The fact that they were able to get a ticket is enough for them. They don't care.

[B]

No, it's a whole. It's. It's.

[D]

Yeah, it's like a status thing. Like. Yes.

[B]

I just. I have just accepted that the. The super bowl is a silly, fun thing to hang out with friends. There's a reason I've watched the super bowl with Laura multiple times. Not exactly my first phone call for a hardcore sporting event.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

Showing up in her pink random jersey. Did she wear, like, a Jets jersey?

[B]

Not even a thought about sports? Here's the thing. If somehow my team were ever to make it back to the Super Bowl, I would probably want to narrow that scope to a, you know, a room of people who would at least be on my side and rooting for my team.

[A]

But.

[B]

But it's not. My team is never in it, so I don't even care. I just go to the party, eat the wings, have a good time. The fact that people are like, I need to take it serious. I don't care. Half time. Yo, bro, you have lost the plot. This the super bowl, soon, it's gonna. They're gonna move it, guys. It's gonna end up falling all the way on, like, President's Day. It'll literally be a holiday. It'll be Sunday night leading into President's Day Monday.

[A]

Wait, so like, two weeks from now?

[B]

Well, next year it's falling on Valentine's Day. What?

[A]

Why?

[B]

Next year it falls on February 14th. And then.

[A]

Why?

[B]

That's just the way the calendar works between Labor Day.

[A]

So they're not taking more time off between the championship games and the.

[B]

No.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

No. But if you do that. But if you do the math on it and you see how close it's getting and you know they're sitting at a 17 game schedule and they're not going to keep it a weird, odd number, you know, at some point they're coming for that 18 game schedule.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Then guess what that does? That pushes it to the following week and we get President's Day Sunday, which, by the way, I have to say I'm not mad at that part. I do like the idea because it.

[A]

Is often they are really trying to take a dump on the NBA's all star game. They are doing everything to crush the NBA and their little All Star Game, which, by the way, the NBA All Star weekend. Struggling anyway.

[B]

No, the NBA does their best themselves. Let's be honest. They've done their best themselves.

[A]

They killed the dunk contest. The. The whole east, west, this team. This guy's a captain. That guy's a captain. All these different iterations of the actual game. Nobody plays this generation. It's basically the Harlem Globetrotters versus the Washington Generals.

[B]

It's. It's. It's terrible. It's. It's terrible. I saw the list for the celebrity game this year, and I say that recognizing that obviously the celebrity games had some down Years. Because I played in the game. But. But when you look at this guys who.

[D]

Give us some names. What do you mean give us a name?

[A]

First define celebrity. Before you do anything, we have to agree on the terms and conditions of.

[B]

Do you mean the actual definition in.

[A]

Not in the dictionary. What we're using today to define.

[D]

Who is it? Who is it? I want to know.

[B]

I'm going to just throw some names at you. Okay.

[D]

I'm curious.

[B]

Jenna. Jenna Bandy.

[A]

Never heard of the person.

[D]

Who's that?

[B]

All right. Ebro. They're including in the game. And this is in order. I'm just reading the names in order. Espn NBA Insider. Sham Sharania is in the game.

[A]

Well, he's a. He's a sports celebrity, I'll give him that.

[B]

Right, sure. It's just weird because he, like, covers the league. It's not what I would think of you put in the game. But he's. He's definitely, you know, well known.

[A]

Okay, Shams is out here. Plus he got great hair.

[B]

Great hair.

[D]

All right, who else?

[B]

Former Celtic and very, very tall. Taco Fall. So he's a former player. Rome Flynn.

[A]

Wait, whoa, whoa, wait. Time out. Taco is in the celebrity.

[B]

Correct. So is Jeremy. So is Jeremy Lynn.

[A]

That kind of makes sense. But Taco's young, right?

[B]

Yeah, he's out of the league now, I guess. Tacos out of the league.

[A]

Wow.

[D]

Jeremy Lynn.

[B]

Jeremy Lynn's there. You know who he is? But he's a player. Doesn't quite count. Rome Flynn. Any. Anyone?

[A]

Nope. We're covering the NBA All Star celebrity game lineup.

[B]

Rick Schnall. Do you know Rick Schnall?

[A]

Not familiar.

[B]

I think he. I think he's in an ownership group.

[A]

For matter of fact, if you know these people in the chat, hit like, hit like on this video. If you know anyone in the chat, because we need you guys to hit likes. Anyway.

[D]

Everyone'S like, what the hell?

[B]

Dylan Wang. Anyone know Dylan Wang?

[A]

No.

[B]

Dylan Wang.

[A]

I'm just. And by the way, maybe Chinese actor and singer. Okay.

[B]

But it says. Here's one. We got a celeb, folks.

[A]

Here we go.

[B]

Keegan Michael Key.

[A]

I know Keegan. Keegan.

[B]

Okay, there we go. Let's see. Aman Amanra. Saint Brown from the NFL. Amon Ra Kafu, which I'm guessing is the former Brazilian soccer great Kafu. And then Glorilla rounds out that team.

[A]

Glorilla.

[D]

Glorilla.

[A]

Speaking of Glorilla. Speaking of Glorilla, you got this family run down. Laura Styles today. You got this.

[D]

I Don't. Yes.

[A]

You know, her rent being paid and it's so messy.

[D]

Yeah. We could definitely talk about it because it's annoying.

[A]

Well, ladies and gentlemen, you listen to the. Or watching Ebro Laura Rosenberg, the YouTube edition. I mean, this is where we are now. Tell a friend to tell a friend. Share this video. Like this video. Subscribe, please. And you could also subscribe to our Patreon, where we give you additional content every week. What was the response to our Patreon this week? How'd we do?

[B]

I. I haven't been. I'm gonna. I haven't been home, bro. My life these days. I don't. It's. There's nothing going on but the rent. I. I haven't looked yet.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

To see what the people said. To see if the people were going. I'm gonna. I'm gonna take a look. But shout out to everyone who has jumped on board. There it is. ELR Unleashed versus recap. Michael Jackson and how Ebro helped Eve get a Grammy. That's the name of the episode that we did. An in studio hour and 14 minute vehicle that we dropped yesterday. 78 comments here.

[A]

That's pretty good.

[B]

I don't know what's happening.

[C]

All right.

[A]

78 comments. Yeah, I'm here. What happened?

[B]

Was that you?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Strange sound has occurred.

[A]

Oh, this is what happens. This what? This is what happens when we're. When we're not in our illustrious new stew.

[D]

Right, right, right, right, right.

[B]

Well. And your God knows where.

[A]

Yeah, I'm on the road.

[B]

Mute your mic. See if that's you.

[A]

All right, it probably is.

[D]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

It was you. I don't know what that.

[D]

Well, he's on location, so he's on remote. He's trying. He's trying me to.

[B]

Do you want me to kick? Yeah. Oh, that's. It's really bad. Can you, like, reconnect?

[A]

What about now?

[B]

Fine. What were you doing? What happened?

[A]

I was trying to increase my volume because they were telling me I was low. And then they were telling you your mic volume is too loud all of a sudden.

[B]

Oh, really? Something changed. Well, I can bring mine down, but you sound fine in my ear. You sound the exact same.

[D]

Yeah, you sound great.

[B]

All right, Laura, you want this rundown intro?

[D]

Yeah. Let's go.

[A]

Laura got the rundown.

[B]

Turn that up.

[A]

Screens on glow when she pulls out headlines heavy, but we still caught up. I still flashing. We don't slow up.

[D]

All right, so I'm. I'm just gonna give you guys a recap. A quick one with the whole Glorilla story. So Glorilla's sister alleges that she doesn't support her family.

[A]

Okay.

[D]

She just went on social media saying she's gonna expose your favorite rapper. You know, we have the same mom, same dad, 10 siblings. She is not who you think she is. You know, and then people just started getting petty. People started. I think it was one of Glorilla's backup dancers was defending her, saying like, yeah, she does help you guys, but you guys are ungrateful. It's one of those. Apparently Glorilla at one point gave her dad a car like a Jaguar. And then the sister was complaining that it didn't have any gas in it and that their mom still works at FedEx and she needs rent money. So blah, blah, blah, it's everyone's just airing family business. But at the very end, Glorilla posted a screenshot of a text message from family saying basically thanking her for everything she does for them. So, so, you know, listen, the talk is, are you, are you obligated to help your family?

[A]

That's not the combo. I'm sorry, guys. Once I hear 10 siblings, a couple are bound to go rogue. When somebody's doing as well as Glorilla and you got 10 siblings, there's. There's a breakdown in communication for sure. And siblings just go rogue. So that's the conversation. Do you have a gang of people in your family and there's one or two of them that are a problem?

[D]

Absolutely.

[A]

And because cuz the sister is like, yo, don't you have Glorilla's phone number? Maybe you're the one she doesn't speak to.

[D]

Why you going to the Internet? Why are you starting?

[B]

Is evidence suggests if you're jumping out on the Internet to talk about your sibling, that maybe this relationship has other issues. Maybe. Could I just say that? I mean, it's possible.

[A]

And is it possible?

[D]

Maybe.

[A]

Is it possible that mom still likes her job? You know, older people still like to work. Sometimes they like having their own life.

[D]

Yeah, that could be it too.

[A]

That, that could be it. Now we don't know. I'm guessing it could be all problematic and Glorilla could be the problem. Who knows? But I'm just saying, I've seen this story before where the sibling is trying to get out on the Internet and tell family business. And it's usually the sibling that's the problem.

[B]

I think it's very hard for any of us to really appreciate what it must be like to be like that. Level of famous and rich in your family, particularly if you come from absolutely nothing. It must get so crazy and hard to manage.

[D]

Absolutely. And everybody's expecting you to take care of them or take care of things. You know what I mean?

[A]

Everybody. You got to be more like me. My cousin. My aunt hit me day before yesterday telling me to call my cousin. My cousin has been a crackhead and an addict for a good 20, 20 joints. Not calling, bro. Sorry, I ain't talking. I haven't talked to you since I was nine.

[D]

Oh, God.

[B]

Nine.

[A]

No, no, I did.

[D]

Crazy, bro.

[A]

I'm lying. I did talk to. I did talk to this cousin, and I sent someone to bring them some money where they live, and it's okay. Report on, like, how they're living, because I couldn't get there and they needed some money, but I haven't.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

But I did talk to them, send them some money, and they said where they were living was not good, things were not good, and I gave him some money, and then I never heard from them until right now.

[B]

I can ERA. Do you want me to predict what they want to hear from you at money? That would be my guess.

[A]

But guess what? The reason I'm telling y', all, you know, this is like my. Well, it's like a second cousin, my grandmother's sister's daughter, so it's like a second. Like a second cousin, but still. My first cousin, I talk to all the time. My. My dad's brothers, kids talk to all the time, just text. Matter of fact, I text with him because he talks to them, and I text him and said, why is your mom telling me to reach out to her? She's drug addict. Not doing it. Let me know, y'.

[C]

All.

[A]

Let me know what's going on. So basically, I'm saying all this to say y' all gotta be more like me just because you family. I don't give a damn, bro. If you moving funny, you get cut off, too.

[D]

I respect it.

[B]

I just want to know how Ebro went to California and somehow left his sniffles and. And congestion with Laura.

[D]

Oh.

[C]

Oh, no.

[D]

Sorry, sorry. I am Eber. I didn't tell you. I have a sinus issue. Really bad.

[A]

I'm not.

[B]

We're listening.

[E]

Oh, I'm struggling.

[D]

I'm sorry.

[B]

Crazy.

[D]

I'm. I'm. I'm struggling, guys. I'm struggling.

[B]

All right, keep powering through.

[D]

Yes, yes, yes. All right, so Floyd Mayweather is suing Showtime and Showtime.

[B]

Floyd Mayweather.

[D]

Yep.

[A]

Go ahead, Relations. You played yourself.

[D]

He's doing Showtime and former Showtime sports president Steven Espinosa, claiming that they helped his longtime advisor, Al Heyman, misappropriate more than $340 million of his boxing earnings. According to the lawsuit, he claims that money from his major fights, you know, the Manny Pacquiao, Conor McGregor, was sent to accounts controlled by Heyman instead directly to him. Years later, he's like, when he switched to managers and requested Showtime's financial records that they were just like, sorry, they lost in a flood. We don't have them. So now he's suing Showtime right now for.

[B]

Seems like a lot of money to him have not gotten, considering how much money he already had.

[D]

That's a crazy $340 million, bro.

[B]

He had 340 million more on top of the like, billion he had.

[D]

Yeah, that's crazy.

[B]

Yo, Floyd, when you got. When you really think about the level.

[A]

By the way you guys say it, right? That's, that's, that's. That's pro Israel Fruit Floyd. That's. I mean, that's, that's Floyd. He's coming for all this paper. He's got his new real estate ventures in New York City.

[B]

Oh, man, he's got friends.

[A]

Yeah, he's got friends.

[B]

Got friends out here. Floyd, when you think about a guy, when. When you compare the amount of entertainment to the amount of money he made, and I know it's going to get some people really angry because Floyd has his people who get defensive about him. Yo, he ripped off the whole world on a level we've never seen, guys.

[A]

What do you mean ripped off?

[B]

Considering how few amazing fights he actually took in his prime, that actually would have entertained us versus the amount of money he made.

[A]

So that's the one thing I don't mind.

[B]

What, that he ripped us off for $50? Many times.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Watch him fight.

[A]

I didn't mind. That doesn't. His behavior and how he manages money and who he is bothers me more than how he finessed the boxing world.

[D]

The person. I get that.

[B]

It's the sports fan of me who just was like, oh, no. Always waited. He always waited for the over the hill matchup. We never got the problem.

[A]

Well, you know, but the reason, the reason I say this with Floyd is because when he was. When he was out here really putting in work, when he was just coming off the Olympics and all that and was really out here putting in work, they didn't want to give him the big fights. So he had, he became a heel. Remember that Cinco de Mayo where he came out with sombrero and became.

[D]

Became, oh, that's right.

[A]

You know, look. And got a lot of attention because of it. He became that and then he was like, you know what? If I gotta be. If I'm the bad guy, I'm gonna just lean all the way in. I think what ended up happening is it. I don't know what happens to your brain when you become the bad guy. It just kind of all. It just took over his whole person. You've probably seen this in wrestling where a wrestler becomes a heel and then all of a sudden in real life becomes that same person. You're like, bro, weren't you just acting? Wasn't that all just.

[B]

I've never seen that, but I'm sure it's possible. But that's why I like wrestling, because they're mostly sane. You know what I mean? They're not actually getting their brains beaten in for a living. That's the difference. That's a big difference.

[A]

Especially in the modern era.

[B]

Wait, hold on. I could pretend to get my brains beaten or I could really get my brains beat. That distinction tells a lot. There's a lot there, there.

[D]

All right, so in other news, you know, we talked about this, but yeah, the Washington Post announced layoffs about one third of the entire workforce, approximately 300 employees across both newsroom and business operations. So the cuts have, you know, the key impacts are the sports, the books department, foreign desks. So that's all the international coverage. All of it is being scaled back. Local and Metro coverage of D.C. yeah. And the popular Post reports podcast. So all the audio, they were like, yep, all of you guys, goodbye. We need to save some money.

[A]

But no, no. Justify 70 plus million that the owner just put towards the Melania film. It probably all came out of one line item on his, like, expenditure where it was like, this is all media money. So if we're going to do. If. If I'm going to do some media, create a documentary for 70 million, we got to pull this money from somewhere else. That's why these people are rich. They don't spend their money. It all comes from the same bucket. They're not going to. They're not going to. He's not going to move money over from one successful venture into a. Into a dying venture. It's not going to happen.

[B]

No, no. You pretend you don't have the money and you let the other thing die. You know, the craziest thing is. I don't know if you guys know this, but for the Washington Post for many, many years, the little quote that they have under their. Under the Washington Post, like their.

[A]

Their slogan.

[B]

Their slogan. Thank you. The slogan for the Washington Post is democracy dies in darkness. And in this case, they got it wrong. Democracy is dying just in light. It's just outside dying.

[D]

Right.

[B]

Broad daylight.

[D]

Right.

[B]

Watching y'.

[D]

All.

[B]

We're watching.

[D]

You do it. Lights, camera, action. All right, let's go to. Yo. We have something for the Low down. Let's go. Rosenberg.

[A]

One of my favorite little pieces of the. Not because of the content. I like the intro that hot rod Rick gave us.

[D]

Hold on to your speakers. It's time for the Low down with Laura Sty. All right, well, let's get this video ready, man, because, you know, with all this Epstein talk, you know, Melinda Gates had an interview with npr and she responds to all the craziness, all the headlines that have been, you know, out in the open. Now, remember the. The big one was that her ex husband, Bill Gates, tried to secretly give her drugs to treat an unknown std.

[A]

Well, that was.

[D]

That's what they were saying that in the emails. Yes, yes, that was in the email. So this is a video of her basically, you know, responding to all this.

[F]

I have to acknowledge the elephant in the room.

[D]

At this moment.

[F]

Your ex husband Bill is named in the newest tranche of Epstein files.

[C]

Yep.

[F]

And there are a new alleged details about his past behavior. And I want to give you the opportunity to respond in whatever way you want to.

[C]

Well, let me say this. I think we're having a reckoning as a society. Right. No girl. No girl should ever be put in the situation that they were put in by Epstein and whatever was going on with all of the various people around him. No girl. I mean, it's just. It's beyond heartbreaking. Right. I remember being those ages. Those girls were. I remember my daughters being those ages. Right. So for me, it's personally hard whenever those details come up. Right. Because brings back memories of some very, very painful times in my marriage. But I have moved on from that. So whatever questions remain there of what I can't even begin to know all of it, those questions are for those people and for even my ex husband. They need to answer to those things, not me. And I am so happy to be away from all the muck that was there.

[F]

I have to put more words to the muck for context for our listeners. The emails in the files suggest that Bill Gates had additional affairs and that he tried to get medication to treat a sexually transmitted infection and that he was going to give you the Medicine without you knowing, his representative has said all of this is false. It is not on you to have to respond to the details of that alleged behavior. But I wonder what your dominant emotion is when you read these news articles with these details.

[C]

Sad. Just unbelievable sadness. Unbelievable sadness, right? And again, I'm able to take my own sadness and look at those young girls and say, my God, how did.

[A]

They.

[C]

How did that happen to those girls? Right? And so for me, it's just sadness. Sadness for, you know, I've left. I had to. I left my marriage. I had to leave my marriage. I wanted to leave my marriage. And so it's just sad. That's the truth, right? Any ghetto owns in D.C. imaginable, I think.

[A]

But the piece here is, remember he was emailing about what he wanted to do, not something he actually did. She divorced him, clearly, knowing there was some, you know, there was muck. Right? So nothing. He was never infected or affected. He was, he was, he was planning. I mean, she was affected by his behavior, but not affected by that. Whatever he was doing in that email that would have warranted him saying, hey, I'm going to slide my wife some antibiotics because I got an std. How do I go about doing that? That's what they're bringing her into. So I kind of in a way feel bad for her because she's already distanced herself from the whole situation, right? And now she's being brought into it as if she's the one that wrote the email. That was him. So what do you want?

[D]

Right?

[A]

And I like, what is she.

[D]

And I do. I do yo. Shout out to her because she, even though this has to be traumatic for her, but she still makes sure that she puts her pain aside and acknowledges the victims, acknowledges these young girls because they were young girls.

[A]

Well, and also it's important too, Laura, because remember, while she's very sad about how her marriage worked out, she wasn't trafficked, she wasn't sexually. I mean, from what we know, she wasn't sexually abused, right? Wasn't raped, she wasn't, you know what I mean? She, you know, so yeah, of course there. Basically she's saying, what happened to me is terrible. I'm very sad. But what was actually going on is.

[B]

Right.

[A]

MM is beyond the pale and people.

[D]

Gotta answer to it. Even her ex husband, everyone. So. And of course those team denies it. He's saying that it's all false.

[A]

It was false. Are you saying. I know it's not real. What are you saying? That's not.

[D]

That's What?

[A]

They claim that's not your email address. It's made up. What do you say? I need to know what people are saying when you say it's false.

[D]

What's that? That he was. They were trying to extort him.

[B]

Who was? Well, they were. That's what Epstein did. That's what the whole thing was. Was Epstein trying to get information? But it doesn't mean you weren't doing the communication, right?

[D]

Right.

[A]

No, the whole Epstein is extortion. The whole thing.

[B]

There are people. There are people in there who aren't getting any noise about them because the emails that have been found on them. It's him fishing and them denying.

[A]

Right. I was just going to say there are people. I was just going to say, you know how you don't get blackmailed if you ain't doing creepy ish?

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

Don't get involved in the first place.

[B]

No, no, no.

[A]

Don't be a creep. Don't be a creep, bro. How about that?

[B]

Commander's owner, I believe, was in there and he was trying to rendezvous. And it's just. It's just his person trying to find time. And you can tell the person's like, nah, well, sorry. Unavailable. Like, that's all they're getting. It's unavailable. It happened.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Yeah. That's great. That was so down there. Laura Styles. Great pull.

[D]

Messy.

[A]

I want to shout out to handball access 914 in the super chat.

[B]

All right.

[A]

Who would like us to cover more handball? That's right. He wants us to talk about that sport more and give more light to that sport. Now, speaking of sports and things, I want to give light to. Rahsaan. Do you have the sport clip that I. I sent over that I would love to.

[B]

Sport clip.

[A]

It's a sport. It's a sporting event. I was not aware it was a sport.

[D]

Oh, oh, I know where you're going.

[A]

I wanted to share it with everyone right now. Were you aware that this was a sport? Rah. Do you have the clip? Let's see. Let's see if he has it. I don't want to give it away by telling him what it is, but it's the only sports clip that we sent over. Rahon.

[B]

Sports is.

[A]

Maybe it's confusing because sports is a competition. You got to be an athlete. There's a.

[B]

There's some sort of thing happening with physical contact. That is a fact.

[F]

I have to acknowledge the elephant in.

[D]

The room at this moment.

[F]

Your ex husband, Bill is named in the newest.

[A]

Why? Because you want him to run more Melinda Gates. And not get to the.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I think we're having a reckoning as a society, right? No, girl.

[F]

I have to acknowledge.

[B]

Rewind selector.

[A]

Yes. Nah, man.

[B]

Come on.

[A]

Ra. What's the basement?

[B]

I love this.

[A]

Wait.

[B]

Now Laura's gone.

[A]

This is amazing.

[B]

That's happening.

[A]

I did it.

[C]

I think we're having a.

[A]

No. It's crazy.

[B]

I. I'm better than I thought.

[D]

Oh, my God. Satan, stop. Stop meddling.

[A]

So we. What we. It's not working. The equipment's broken. We just gotta wrap the show. Rashawn, what's happening?

[B]

No. Who's Rashawn?

[A]

I said Rahsaan. I might change it to Rashawn. No.

[B]

When he's bad, he's Rashawn. No. That is hilarious.

[D]

And now.

[A]

And now there's just like no communication. Now there's just no communities. Communication. This is.

[B]

What? Well, there's obviously something going.

[A]

So tell us. Do. Are we going to do it or we not. We're just stalling. It's been 60 seconds.

[D]

I think he's trying. I think he's trying. He.

[B]

Bro, I do have. I do have something I have to do in the meantime while this messiness gets cleaned up.

[D]

Okay. Look at her face.

[A]

Wait. She was really hyped.

[B]

Yo, yo, now, era. Why. Why did you share that?

[A]

Because that's. You don't find that amazing and by amazing.

[B]

Crazy amazing.

[A]

I'm gonna tell you, there was two things.

[D]

Her face.

[A]

Her face. How intense she was, how she celebrated after, like, she's been working for this championship or whatever. That was her entire life. She.

[D]

How did she prep for that?

[A]

She. I don't know how they exercise.

[D]

Sounds like toe push ups.

[B]

That literally looks like it would be a thing that, like a couple's laying around in bed on a Sunday doing nothing and they start pushing each other and then you start playing and like, yo, we should make this a sport. No, you shouldn't. What are you doing?

[A]

Listen, there's a part of me that slap. There's a part of me that thinks some creep came, some creep with a foot fetish, came up with this competition in the first place.

[B]

Facts.

[A]

But I'm tell you another thing that amazed me about this thing. And then we'll get to the gurus. They had sponsors.

[D]

Oh, it's. It's well produced. What are we saying? Yes.

[A]

We don't have sponsors. They have sponsors.

[D]

Toe wrestling is hot right now.

[A]

And it was sponsored by that company that makes the soles on. On boots. Vibram. Vibram. How you say it?

[B]

Oh, really?

[A]

That's what. Look, run the clip again.

[B]

We're smart. No, no, no. It's okay.

[D]

No, we don't need to see the toe wrestling again.

[A]

I gotta see a woman. Look, it's positive. Look at this.

[B]

That is.

[A]

I need to see the crowd. I need to see the crowd. I need more info. I need more info.

[B]

You were really affected by this, huh?

[A]

Did you know this was happening in the world?

[B]

No, and I don't think anyone does.

[D]

It's pretty hilarious.

[A]

Do they have weight classes? Like, is it based on, like, foot size? Like, do they have, like, a flat foot division versus, like, high arches? Like, I need to know. Like, because if I have a size 5 shoe, you can't be toe wrestling with somebody with an 11. That. You can't do that. You gotta.

[D]

No, no, no. They have to be in a certain.

[B]

Class of the world toe wrestling contest. It's a sport. There's a Wikipedia page.

[A]

Wow.

[B]

There's a website. The toe wrestling championship.

[D]

Wow.

[B]

Lots of gross pictures of people's toenails that are making me want to puke. Why did I do that?

[A]

I mean, they're toe wrestling.

[B]

That is repulsive. A couple more things from a super chat before we get to the gurus, guys. Okay, if it's all right. If it's all right with you, I want to correct myself that it's not more on the man. It's Moreno, the man who has spent multiple times to talk about Laura's eyebrow.

[D]

Thank you, Marino. Thank you.

[A]

Giving creep.

[B]

Ebony. Ebony. Unique. Love you, fam. So you said that she loves the platform parlay. Hunter who. Who hit us up about our guru the other day? Juni Santiago reached out as well. Laura mentioned East Village 5983. But, yeah, shout out to everyone who's hitting us on the super chat. And also, Ebro Shaboozi. Back down, man.

[A]

Back down. What do you mean, he back down?

[B]

He put. He. Well, he didn't back down. He put out a statement.

[D]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

He put out a cleanup statement.

[A]

Yeah, he should have. People were offended.

[D]

I know he was gonna do. I knew he was gonna do it.

[A]

People were offended, I guess.

[B]

Yo, it's. It's effing insane, bro. That is insane. People were offended. That he's. Immigrants built this country is not offensive. He was talking about immigrants. That's. That doesn't mean he has to mention everyone else who's built the country. Why. Why do you. Why do we beat people up when they're trying to do the right thing? What is wrong with us?

[A]

No, but who's we?

[B]

The p. The people on our side. Because that is our side. That is a left eating left. This is what people say about it necessarily. You don't think so?

[A]

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I don't know if you're. I don't know if you're tapped into the, you know, foundational black American, you know, African descendants of slavery. Not necessarily left or right. There was definitely people, black folks who saw a black man up there and who had a country hat on, and it was like, yo, bro, what are you talking about? But f. Those people, they literally want to do that.

[B]

If you're anyone, when you get up there in a moment where you're trying to fight for the people who are under attack, this is back to Black Lives Matter. That's some All Lives Matter bull.

[A]

Ish.

[B]

He was up there because that house is on fire right now. So he's trying to put water on that house that's on fire, and they're going, all Lives matter. That's a different version of All Lives Matter.

[A]

I don't agree with you.

[D]

I don't really it like that.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

I don't agree. I don't agree with you at all. I feel like you think he needs.

[B]

To apologize by people who are waiting on him because he's wearing a cowboy.

[A]

No, no, no. What I know what I read was someone who misspoke and went up there and clarified, and he didn't.

[B]

He didn't. How is it misspeaking? How is it misspeaking?

[A]

Because immigrants didn't build the country. They built some things. And they currently.

[B]

That's part of building.

[A]

They currently help build the economy. You don't have a country without the slave labor that they actually got for free that built the entire economy. And that's very sensitive to people. So for people who were abused and continually erased to be like, wait, wait, wait, hold up, hold up, hold up. I know everybody's sensitive right now, but let's not just gloss over this thing that people love to historically gloss over and act like doesn't exist. Let's not do that. I can't just say they shouldn't be sensitive. You're not. I'm not going to do that because.

[D]

I think that's really. That's really what it is about.

[A]

Hey, it's Black History Month.

[B]

B.

[A]

B.

[B]

Well, that's okay.

[A]

No, no. Well, nothing like, what are you saying? This is change. What it does. It does. Because you're talking about the group that is always Sean, bro, it's the group that's always on that. People are like, yo.

[B]

But he wasn't doing that.

[A]

Not on purpose. He wasn't on purpose. He wasn't. But for someone to be held accountable on social media, it's not like people ask for him to be, like, removed from society.

[B]

Listen, I wanted an awkward spot. You're yelling. You're yelling.

[A]

And. Yeah, because I tried to say to you. No, I get it.

[B]

I disagree, though.

[A]

I disagree. You're wrong.

[B]

No, it's not. Yeah, Twitter terrorism, bro. It's Twitter. Twitter terrorism.

[A]

No, it's not just Twitter.

[B]

We will catch you and we will beat you down.

[A]

No, it's not. Sometimes people just want him to clarify a statement. He clarified it. It went away. It's gone now.

[B]

You're right. And that.

[A]

O.

[B]

Okay, it's cool that he clarified it, I guess. But in the moment, when you say you're trying to have a moment to say that immigrants are part of building this country and you leave out one word, you need to then be destroyed for it. As if he doesn't appreciate the contributions because Americans.

[D]

Because he didn't say parts.

[B]

He didn't get destroyed. It went on for two days. Laura, did I miss that? He wasn't getting it from everywhere.

[D]

I mean, no. He got plenty of backlash. Absolutely.

[A]

Backlash. You clarify.

[B]

It goes away.

[A]

It's not that big a deal. People do the outrage thing in text. It wasn't like people doxed his house like they did to Billie Eilish. Where a British. A British journalist went to Billie Eilish's home and demanded her to come out and, like, answer to what the thing she said. Stolen land. Nobody did that to him.

[B]

And you know that.

[A]

They're now.

[B]

Ted Cruz is now, like, running with the stolen land conversation on Capitol Hill. They're coming for Billie Eilish. So that's.

[A]

There's levels.

[B]

It could have been worse.

[A]

There's levels.

[B]

It could have been worse.

[A]

But. But. And oh, and oh, by the way, the land is stolen.

[B]

Of course it is. And hold on. And by the way, just because she's saying you can't. Just because she's saying that we live on stolen land doesn't mean that she did. Couldn't buy property and live in it. The land was already stolen. She's not saying that it should all be.

[A]

To my point, to my point, there's levels. He didn't get destroyed. Right? Yeah, but to your.

[B]

But to my point, it's all intentionally going after people who are on the right side.

[A]

But it's also Remember, you have groups of people who are continually trashed and shit on. They have a right to be sensitive. They don't. They don't get seen. They're the issues don't get heard. And oh, by the way, we're living in a time where the federal government is taking the achievements of black Americans out of history books, out of museums, closing.

[B]

That's why the focus should be on going after them, not Jabousi.

[A]

But that's.

[B]

It's a waste of time and energy.

[A]

It's not a waste of time because now we're having a great conversation. Now people are actually having the convo.

[B]

Well, we are, because that's what we do.

[A]

And when you have a platform and you make a mistake and when you're a celebrity, I don't mind people coming for you and making you be like, yo, let me clean that up. I screwed that up. I hurt some people. I'm a big rich celebrity. I'm on television and I didn't handle something right. Not my intent. Right. We gotta stop. We gotta stop acting like.

[B]

No, no, I'm Captain Stop. I'm Captain Apology. There you go.

[A]

Listen, after this segment, you're gonna want to apologize tomorrow because.

[B]

Right.

[A]

Well, we're about.

[B]

I plan it for.

[A]

Should I.

[B]

For tomorrow.

[A]

Plan it for tomorrow show. Cuz they about to cook.

[D]

Oh God. How do we get here?

[A]

We.

[B]

We need to. We need to get to the guru.

[D]

We need a rap.

[A]

Let's do it.

[D]

All right. The Original Gurus. Gmail.com. the Original Gurus. Gmail.com. burn the sage, Ebro. All right, let's go pe.

[A]

Wait, when you burn the sage, you got to give me like a beat to Zen. Zen, Zen. Like is. It wasn't. I mean, before I was invited into this guru thing, there was like space for Shani to go. Is. Now I just get rushed past. You know what, Shaboozi, I'm coming for you. Why you keep glossing over my moment and my contribution?

[B]

There we go. There we go. All right.

[D]

Zen, Zen, Zen.

[B]

The original GurusMail.com. the original GurusMail.com your destination. For clarity. Here we go. Some words of encouragement are needed. Howdy, gurus. I'm a 33 year old gay first generation Mexican American from Texas.

[A]

Okay, you got, man, you got. The odds are stacked.

[B]

It's a lot of things going on.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

33 year old gay first generation Mexican American.

[A]

It was really the Mexican American in Texas part that was like, okay, what you got going on, my guy? You need our help?

[B]

Really? I would say the gay and Mexican and in America, all of it together, the whole combination. Okay, Go ahead, p. I spent 10 years as a manager of people at big box retail stores.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

I decided I didn't want to do the dance anymore, so I quit in 2024. My idea was to start my own business, but I didn't have a plan before I quit.

[A]

Oh, I hit the button. If you're out here on a dance floor, you got, congratulations, you played yourself. You gotta plan. You gotta plan your next, you know, move before you get off the dance floor, man. Come on, man.

[D]

All right, so what now?

[B]

I'm beyond lost. I gave up my career, was ejected from a four year relationship. I'm unmotivated as my trust in the world dwindles by the day. I discovered copywriting as a career along the way, but haven't had the guts to pitch my services because I feel like an imposter. Especially because I'm the son of immigrants that never went to school. I'm in need of words of encouragement because I admire y' all much love and thank you for all you do.

[A]

Baby O the show, Baby oh, baby O.

[B]

Let's start thinking. Let's. Let's start the encouragement with this again. Congratulations.

[D]

You played yourself first and foremost, Love, Baby O.

[A]

Go get a job, okay? Go get a. A job that allows you to come and then work on the other thing on the side. You know what I'm saying?

[D]

That's right. We all did it.

[A]

Go ahead, get up. Go ahead and go back to school if you need to. Whatever this next career path that you're looking at, go ahead and, you know, maybe get an internship, an apprenticeship, whatever you can get to meet people, show up if there, if there's an annual gathering of what is he trying to be copyrighted?

[B]

He said he's into copywriting, potentially.

[A]

Is that like, what is, what is that, Is that like for tv writing copy for commercials?

[B]

That's what I would imagine, yeah.

[A]

Okay. If there's an annual gathering of people who do this, go to it, visit. But in the meantime, you're going to need a job. And being a first generation immigrant is not something that you should be worried about. Laura's first generation, you know what I mean?

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And. And I don't know. Laura, did your parents go to school? Like, were they big? Highly. You know, higher education, college, university, professors?

[D]

My mom did, yeah. My mom was a teacher, but just that she graduated from college and she became a teacher. My dad. Nope. My dad was fixing cars.

[A]

So, you know, I don't think you should be. You're making up reasons to feel insecure about who you are. You know what I mean? There's a lot of people who are first generation and maybe you go educate yourself so you don't have to worry about your parent. It's not about your parents education. It's about you.

[D]

Yeah, man, I think you need to believe a little bit more in yourself. You got this and you know what you want. But you need a job to pay the bills to kept you fed.

[A]

Consider leaving Texas. Maybe that's also dampening your, you know, spirit a little bit.

[D]

But before he does that, he, he probably should like work a little bit and save some money. So when he moves, he's prepared. You need to have some money in.

[B]

The stash and maybe you could just like get a job at a place where copywriting is a thing that exists there, but you just get a job doing whatever you could do there. You know what I'm saying?

[D]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

One day you could find your way to that. But your job might initially be taking out the trash or doing whatever it is to just get you in the door and give you some, some income.

[A]

There you go.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And people appreciate also if you tell me, I want to learn this, I want to do this, this is why I'm here. They're like, oh, you're taking out the trash. You would want to move up. All right, Somebody will be like, this is dope. I believe in you. So let's work on this on the side. But we all agree though, get a job to pay your bills because no matter what you want to do, you're gonna need some money in the stash. So hope that helps. Sending you a lot of love. The gurus.

[A]

Harp or clothes and clothes.

[D]

There we go.

[B]

And.

[A]

There was someone who. Well, how long ago did that. Some, Some person say that the drops, the. The management of drops needs to go back to Rosenberg. Was that from yesterday's show?

[B]

Yeah, I don't know. I. I don't know where. Which show is from yesterday the day before I saw the comments.

[A]

Well, there you go. There you guys go. You have as an evidence now Rosenberg on the drops today.

[B]

Yeah, my, My. My board is still struggling.

[A]

Get you an iPad, man. I show I gave you the iPad connect, right? Or the iPad app again. No, can't soundboard sound soundboard.

[B]

You said I don't want to.

[A]

And then you already ruined it. You already ruined it.

[B]

Guys, I. I want to apologize for my statements earlier about Shabuzi. I think he absolutely should have apologized. Can we. Can you roll my apology into his.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Yo, jabuzzi, do a. P.S.

[A]

Listen, I. I get where people are frustrated because it's like. It's bedlam.

[B]

I get your point, too. I truly get your point. I just felt bad.

[A]

I think when it's bedlam, I'm accustomed to when it's chaotic and everyone's emotional. Everyone's emotional.

[B]

You know what?

[A]

I should.

[B]

I wish it was an interview. I wish you just did an interview and had a conversation about it. I don't know that someone whose intention is clearly right required the statement as if he harmed. He could have a conversation.

[A]

But you're assuming that, A, he wants to continue this and give. Give audio and video. More audio and video to it, and B, that, like, he's super well versed in it. He was trying to do a nice thing and take a stand as the Somebody. As a black man who gets play. His name gets played with. And he got.

[B]

And he's. Well. And he's a child of immigrants.

[A]

And he's a child of immigrants.

[D]

He says it.

[A]

That's right.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And so he's close to that, but he's. It's complicated for him because he's also a black man. Right, Right. And so that. That also is a. It's. It's. It's a new space to be in, and people make mistakes, and that's okay. And I think apologizing is good. You know what I'm saying?

[B]

But if you people need to learn.

[A]

To apologize, if you want to be on a public platform, get prepared for people to launch outrage in your direction without giving you grace, because they assume because you have a platform, you're not supposed to make mistakes.

[B]

Right. And get prepared to be comfortable apologizing.

[A]

That's it. It's okay. We're all human.

[D]

Hi, guys. Subscribe.

[A]

Subscribe.

[D]

Hit the like, man.

[A]

Hit the like buttons. We need the like buttons to run the algorithm up, man. That's right.

[B]

See you tomorrow, Big Friday.

[A]

Just don't call it a podcast.