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Ebro
Just don't call it a podcast, Okay? Okay. Boys and girls, ladies and gents, children of all sizes, ages and colors.
Laura Styles
Buenos diaz. Good morning, everyone.
Ebro
I am Ebro. That is Laura and that is Rosenberg. Good morning, Rosenberg. We got your feet locked in.
Rosenberg
I think that we're working. Do I sound better than last week?
Ebro
Yeah, I think so. We got to get our on the road gear better now that we're in the stew.
Guest/Caller (possibly a producer or contributor)
I know.
Ebro
New stew. Our on the road presentation needs work.
Rosenberg
Yeah.
Ebro
Yeah.
Rosenberg
Well, this one in particular is my bad. I'm in a place called Atlantic City. It is a miracle that you were able to hear me at all, but I'll do better.
Ebro
There you go. Okay. That's all you could do. Did you have. What did you. You had a family maneuver you had to make? Was it was the. Is the baby snow, Small apartment, you on the road starting to eat away at the. At the. At the. At Paradise?
Rosenberg
Yeah, I would say paradise closed up shop a little while ago. And I won't say that paradise reopened here in Atlantic City, but I will say we had a little. We had a nice time in Maryland doing my family stuff. And then we've been with Natalie's brother and family in here in Atlantic City. So, yeah, we just needed a little. Needed to take advantage of the three day weekend just a bit.
Ebro
There you go. Hopefully everybody else got a little three day weekend if you did not. I mean, maybe you're running around the roads here in a tri state. The snow is trying to melt. The. The temperatures may get up to like mid-40s. They're saying today if the sun cracks through these clouds, they're saying we can see 50 degrees outside. 50 degrees.
Laura Styles
Come on.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
Whoa.
Ebro
That's what they saying.
Laura Styles
Come on. Yes.
Ebro
We have to deal with something. A memor arrest in peace to start the program. A legend has passed. How old was Jesse Jackson?
Laura Styles
80. 84.
Ebro
84 years old, man. A full life. A legendary life. An iconic life lived. Civil rights activists ran for president twice. The first black man to run for President in 1984 came in third. I wonder if the Democrats look at 1988 and wonder why they went with Michael Dukakis. Do the Democrats look back at that and go, yeah, no, we. We botched that.
Rosenberg
Well, it didn't go great. So I. Did not go great.
Ebro
It did not go great. But based on how Obama went and where we are, where we're at right now, maybe the Democrats knew something, because in 88, the United States wasn't in a better place, were they?
Laura Styles
You don't say facts.
Rosenberg
It would not have gone well.
Ebro
But now let's, let's create some, some space for this classic Jesse Jackson clip. As we say, rest in peace to the late, great Reverend Jesse Jackson.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
I am somebody. I may be poor. I am somebody. I may be on welfare, but I am somebody. I may be unskilled, but I am somebody. I am black.
Ebro
Beautiful.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
I must be respected. I must be protected. What time is it? When we stand together? What time is that? When we say no more. Yes, about what time is it?
Ebro
There it is.
Laura Styles
Wow.
Ebro
Classic clip.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro
Reverend Jesse Jackson went on, obviously, to form the PUSH movement and the Rainbow Coalition, which combined later on. He continued to work even he had a. A neuro. A degenerative neuro. Neuro disorder or something like that, I believe. So she was a part of his health issues that he was living with also. You know, Reverend Jesse Jackson was there when Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Was shot in Memphis. So, yeah, he, he was, he was an icon man and, and a phenomenal order and, and a great leader. And he continued to work up until he couldn't really move anymore. I mean, there's pictures of him still working after he got his diagnosis. 2019. 2020.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro
Still outside. He would have been 80 years old at the time, so. And living to. Or excuse me, 82.
Laura Styles
I mean, 84 years old is, Is a life.
Ebro
Yeah.
Laura Styles
You know what I mean? God bless his family. Sending them so much love. I think sometimes.
Rosenberg
Yeah, he. Jesse. I'm sorry, Laura. I was gonna say that Jesse had a. A great career and a great. Like, I feel like over time, Ebro, he only got respected more and more. Like the Jesse Jackson evolution aged incredibly. Yeah, well, he kept doing things like permanently. The Rainbow Coalition was such a thing. Like when we were kids, in addition to the running for president twice, as you mentioned, being side by side with Dr. King, the SCLC, he was just, he was a fixture. There was a time when, I know a lot of people thought that his son, Jesse Jr. Was really going to be like the next, the next huge black politician. And he didn't end up continuing to pursue it. But now he was. He was a great man. And it seemed like this day was coming soon, but when it hits you, it's still a shot.
Ebro
It's heavy. And it's also a realization. Like I found myself thinking, you know, how me at 50 years old, right. And where we are today in the United States, how much there is information, evidence of corruption, evidence of the white supremacy and racism that runs rampant through our Institutions. It's on full display. Right. And it feels like more people are informed and awake. However, it feels also like we're in the worst situation we've been in since the 80s. Yep.
Laura Styles
Yeah. Yes.
Ebro
Right. Since the crack epidemic.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro
Since, you know, the Reagan era. 9, 11 in the bush thing was tough, but it wasn't this divide, obviously, it brought us together in some ways. What we're seeing right now, what we feel right now is very divisive. And he had to die.
Rosenberg
Dr. Jesse Jackson had to die. Not knowing if the democracy is essentially going to make it. Like, he definitely passed away thinking, oh, my God, are we gonna go back to a time that I remember and was even worse than I remember?
Ebro
Well, no.
Rosenberg
And had to be there.
Ebro
Not the democracy. Yes. But also just civil rights, period. Civil rights has slid backwards.
Laura Styles
Everything he fought for has been backwards. It's been returned to slide the wrong way. Yeah.
Ebro
Backwards. And for all of that.
Laura Styles
It'S sad.
Ebro
Yourself. Yeah. Big one. Congratulations. You played yourself a big one for all of us as we sit and we remember the Reverend Jesse Jackson. Rest in peace now. It was a busy weekend, you know. Also passed away this weekend, I think. Robert Duvall. Yeah. 95.
Rosenberg
Saw that. 94. 94. 95.
Ebro
Yeah, 95. Apocalypse now, the Godfather. Godfather 2, of course, Network. He was in the Natural. Robert Duvall legend.
Laura Styles
It's like, you. You made it, bro. I mean, I don't know, guys. I don't know. Like, 90s is like, how. That's old, guys.
Rosenberg
But every. But the thing is, every 90s, every 90s is different, Laura. Like, there are 90s. I was talking to a friend this weekend whose mom is 98, and, wow, she's still. She's mentally talking there.
Laura Styles
God bless.
Rosenberg
So, like it.
Ebro
So.
Rosenberg
But it sounds like when you hear someone dies in their 90s, you act like as if people are just kind of like, I.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
Peace.
Rosenberg
But I mean, if you were good, it's still really sad. Like, they were out here chilling one day, you know? It's hard. It's crazy.
Ebro
The only people my 90s I'm gonna tell y' all right now is Issa, Selassie and Jazz. Because the rest of y', all, y' all gonna be sick of me if I'm 90 something. Y' all gonna be. I'm gonna do all the interviews. I told you. I'm doing all the interviews. I'm telling all the stories. I'm doing all the talking. Y' all gonna be.
Rosenberg
And we already know you said it's gonna be a Lie.
Ebro
Listen, the best thing you can hope for is that I just don't have a memory.
Laura Styles
Good.
Ebro
Because right now, I remember too much.
Laura Styles
You're gonna be so loose, and you're gonna be into being old because you've been dreaming of being old your entire life.
Ebro
I love it. I'm excited to be here.
Laura Styles
You're just gonna be just saying people's business.
Ebro
Oh, man. Oh, I'm telling you, not true business, by the way. What'd you say, Rosenberg?
Rosenberg
It won't. It won't always be true business.
Ebro
See, he's already trying to. Look, he's already trying to create the narrative already. So that way, when I start telling my stories because. Because y' all still think Quincy Jones was lying in that article. You didn't want to believe it.
Laura Styles
I think he was lying.
Ebro
You didn't want to believe it about who was in the hot tub and who was playing with whose booty. You guys didn't want to believe it. I believed all of it. Now that the Epstein files are out, I don't know why y' all not believing all this stuff that people are saying.
Laura Styles
Oh, my God.
Ebro
I don't know why people are not believing it. It's all possible and plausible at that.
Rosenberg
It is true.
Ebro
Do you have the Fat Joe Jada Kiss podcast clip with moany love? I want you guys to watch this, and we're going to discuss. See, bro. Rosenberg, make sure you subscribe. Hit the like button so the algorithm gets popping for us. That's how we move around out here.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
Yeah. Hot 97 is the grandfather of this, and they run it. And we got to be a little bit loyal to them because they did put us in the game. They played Flo Joe first, so we got to be like that. But they were also telling me Power 105 is owned by a company that owns 40 other radio stations. So if you try to front on power 105, they will not play your in America. So now what do you want? You want to keep it real with Hot 97. Meanwhile, you got. Let's call it what it is. You got dictators like Ebro on Hot 97.
Ebro
Like, you don't come here.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
We run the show.
Ebro
He.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
You seen that interview when the man told Kodak Black who's the hottest guy.
Rosenberg
In the world, y'?
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
All, Iron man, get out of here if you want. What they didn't realize is that that station came with 40 other stations. So it was like, do you want to be the hottest on high 97? Which we all know and loved. Or you want to get played in 40 other stations.
Ebro
So that that clip was sent to me, and they was like, yo, why is your man Fat Joe talking ish about you? I was like, he's not talking about me. I was on that type of time. We was up against a. A. A behemoth, and we was always there first for artists, and we was always there. We always are. There is when things. Times get tough and the I hearts of the world ain't putting you in rotation. Flex is always there for you. So what was our other mode to be? We was just gonna fold up, roll up, and act like it was cool for y' all to run down the street and. And kiss ass to them and not do nothing for us. That's what I was supposed to do.
Laura Styles
It was a competitive time.
Ebro
I was supposed to just roll up, and I enjoyed it. I liked the competition.
Rosenberg
I mean, the word dictator is what.
Ebro
Made it a little.
Laura Styles
I know.
Ebro
Come on.
Rosenberg
The word dictator's tough.
Ebro
I mean, hey, listen, I was. I definitely was on my B.S. 1000%. Had to be. Had to protect my team. I had to ride for my team. You guys thought we was just gonna glad hand be happy to be here while y' all just run around up with these corporate behemoths. A lot of people don't even know. Hot 97 is really an independent, small flagship they don't have. It's one station. There's no partners all across the globe. Or two. Well, but the other BLS doesn't play the same music, so it's not like you can leverage one station against the other in that way.
Laura Styles
Right, Right, right, right, right.
Ebro
So we had to. We had, you know, look, same way people hate Flex, when Flex is like, yeah, if you don't get me the record first, I'm not playing it. What else we got to go with? We got to use what leverage we got. It's competitive, man.
Rosenberg
But this. This is my problem. I love Fat Joe, but this is the problem with the storytelling on podcast. Even, like, the timeline. He went from talking about one era to jumping all the way to Ebro and Kodak Black. I'm like, this is okay, right?
Ebro
It's called Algorithm Hustler. It's called. It's called Click Farming, sir. He's doing a damn good job.
Laura Styles
And he said. He told Kodak, like, if you don't like it, get out of here. Like, we don't really think went.
Ebro
It didn't go like that.
Laura Styles
It didn't really go that way.
Ebro
But I'm not Gonna sit around and watch Kodak black curse at Laura Styles that ain't happening. Or dictate the interview. Speaking of dictator, I'm not doing that. I'm not sitting here sitting back and letting you dictate to me.
Laura Styles
People love like going back to that interview and just making up their own version of it instead of actually watching what happened. They loved to make it up. I've heard all the crazy like that didn't happen. Watch the interview.
Ebro
And they.
Rosenberg
And they've also made it seem like, like Ebro did something bad.
Laura Styles
Right?
Rosenberg
Ebro literally was calling attention. The man had an open sexual assault case. And all we did since we made it was made clear. We couldn't go into detail. Just going to be by the way.
Ebro
It was made clear by who? Nobody made clear to me.
Rosenberg
Nothing with someone who committed sexual assault potentially. Now what we've learned since is a lot of y' all are really good glad handing with people who have sexual assault cases. That's what I've learned. But just because it had to be brought up. And also, couldn't you stop acting people like we missed out on some great interview. Did you watch the rest of it? Ero did us all a favor.
Ebro
Wait, wait, wait.
Rosenberg
It wasn't that great.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
I'm sorry.
Ebro
First of all, nobody told me not to bring anything up. Nobody told me not to bring anything up with Kodak. That's part one. Part two. I didn't bring it up because it was an open case. So I just figured he couldn't talk about it. Like he wasn't going to talk about it.
Laura Styles
But you said it.
Ebro
And I said, I know you can't talk about it. And we take sexual assault serious. I was actually trying to give him alley oop. I thought he was smart enough to see like, yo, we take sexual assault serious. And I know you do too.
Laura Styles
Hello.
Ebro
Right. Like this isn't something you want. And when it gets resolved, you could come back. That's it, bro. Got attitude. Start cursing that Laura Styles. I beat it. Get the get out.
Laura Styles
I think we were trying to change the subject. He was just so mad. So, yeah, I think.
Ebro
Rosenberg, what was your next question after that? You asked him about quasars or something?
Rosenberg
No, he had. He had said he didn't believe in the moon landing or something. So I had that on my list and it was getting really awkward. So I'm like, hey, we. We could just talk about the moon landing. He was like, what? What you talking about?
Ebro
I was like, all right, bro, no.
Rosenberg
One understands what you're saying, anyway, let's wrap this up anyway.
Ebro
Well, shout out to Joe and Jada doing big numbers on their podcast. Saw Joe at the super bowl, actually. And I really like Jada on that new Ryan Witherspoon record too. Shout out to Ryan. Moving around now, I think since we're in the hip hop space, do we care about Kanye and Travis Scott working on a collab album?
Rosenberg
Wow.
Laura Styles
I. I could see it happen because at first people were like, I don't believe it. I could see it as his way back in.
Ebro
What happened to the other album he was just supposed to begin?
Laura Styles
I don't know.
Ebro
Wasn't. Didn't they just announce an album now? We skipped over that we're to a collab album.
Laura Styles
I see. Now he's supposed to go away, and then he's having a concert in Mexico, then planning another one somewhere else. I don't. I don't.
Ebro
Congratulations. You himself.
Rosenberg
He's doing something. There's some sort of planning to get back to touring in the US he's clearly trying to rebuild and. And get there. Like, there's a. There's a reason why the apology happened. It's all lining up. I will just see where it goes. I would be interested in hearing that album, though. I'm not gonna lie to you. I would be interested in hearing it.
Ebro
J. Cole announced world tour. We're looking at 54 dates across 15 countries. Laura J. Cole was just moving around New York City as well.
Laura Styles
Yeah. So I was gonna cover it in the rundown, but let's get into it right now, so.
LaRussell
Oh, you know, you called it.
Ebro
You want to hold it?
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, let's hold it. It's coming up. It's coming up. Yeah. I know you guys don't care about this, but maybe Rosenberg, Roseburg. You know what I saw this weekend? I saw the documentary for America's Next Top Model. I saw two episodes. Oh, my God. Ebro doesn't care about this. But I. It's good because it does not paint Tyra Banks in the most positive light. And it really shows you how foul the show was.
Ebro
But is it modeling being a model like that whole industry foul anyway?
Laura Styles
Is yes.
Ebro
Supposed to be less foul?
Laura Styles
Yes. Ibrah. But, you know, it's in the early 2000s, and they just had these girls do things that you're just like, oh, my God. Why is this a thing? Like, there was this one where they. All the girls had to change their race. Like, oh, this is. This is something that makes sense. Race and ethnicity. Right. And the photos Are like, oh. Then there's, like, other versions where they made these girls. Like, dude, one of the girls.
Rosenberg
Her.
Laura Styles
Her mom was, like, a victim of domestic violence and was, like, shot and was paralyzed. That was her story. And then they made her do a photo shoot where she's like, oh, highlighting gun violence, where she's just, like, on the floor splattered with, like, a bullet hole in her chest.
Rosenberg
Oh, my God.
Laura Styles
It was just stuff frozen with.
Ebro
You're like, wa.
Laura Styles
Was it happening?
Ebro
And they did it under the premise of, we know this is a trigger for you, so we're gonna make you do this thing. Or it was just that inconsiderate.
Laura Styles
That inconsiderate.
Ebro
Got it.
Laura Styles
Because she was saying, like, you. They knew this. I told my story, and they still had me do things like that. I mean, people had to.
Ebro
I wonder if there. I wonder if there was a producer trying to trigger these girls to get some sort of outrage or outburst.
Laura Styles
It's reality tv.
Rosenberg
Yeah.
Ebro
To try to, you know, look, if y' all think people was rage baiting.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
Oh.
Ebro
Nowadays, imagine what the reality show situation was like.
Laura Styles
It's bad. So I don't know. I'm on, like, I'm like, on episode two. I almost finished it, but it's good. Rosenberg. It was good.
Rosenberg
Ebro. I thought you were gonna say speaking of hip hop and go to the Russell conversation.
Ebro
I thought about doing that. I thought about doing that, but I was gonna bounce around a little bit and hold that. But let's get to the Russell combo. Do we have the Russell on a podcast talking about Lil Wayne, I think is where we should start.
LaRussell
I had a moment in my journey where I had grew a disdain for Wayne just because I started listening to everything. Like, I started maturing as a human, and I'm like, damn, this nigga wasn't talking about nothing for a long time.
Ebro
I asked him about that, you know.
LaRussell
Like, as someone who, like, grew up in these communities and grew up with homies who I seen want to be bloods because they following Wayne and want to be gangster and want to shoot all the gun bar.
Ebro
And.
Laura Styles
Right.
LaRussell
Like, I've seen the negative that he contributed to the community, and I had to look like, man, what are the songs where he really talked about something and gave and out of a thousand song catalog, you know, it's my new. On this end.
Rosenberg
It's like Georgia Bush and I do.
LaRussell
And I do bother tie my hands.
Laura Styles
That's one of the greatest representatives.
Ebro
The only one, I think.
LaRussell
And that's the thing. It's like, if I hug you once, but I slapped the shit out you a thousand times. You know, your affinity for me is gone. You're probably gonna remember me for this.
Ebro
Now. A lot of people have problems with that. What? LaRussell said that. And I get it, because people are fans of Lil Wayne, and Lil Wayne is one of the goats, one of the icons. But I also don't think it's that problematic. I've watched that, like, three times now, and I'm like, what are people actually so upset about?
Laura Styles
It's his personal opinion. Because Ebro, anytime someone has something to say other than the. The whatever the norm is, quote, unquote, norm, everyone takes it as, hey, you already know this. They're like. And they'll clip it because they'd be like, oh, someone hating on Wayne. This will go viral.
Rosenberg
Yeah, but the. But the funny thing is, I. We're gonna get to the other piece of it as well. But, like, the. The shortened version I saw of it was actually not as bad as the longer version. The longer version, he really goes into detail. When I say bad, I don't actually mean bad. I mean bad. If you're a Wayne Stan and can't hear the truth, that while Wayne is one of the great rappers of all time, he rarely stood for anything. That is a fact. That is an undeniable fact. You could rewrite history all you want. He was awesome.
Ebro
And then there's your KRS1. Then there's this off the mic. He really stood for nothing.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro
And even an interview about Black Lives Matter or Mike Brown. I mean, if you want to get let down by one of your. One of your legends, just ask Lil Wayne a question about something important in society. Like, it'll be like, come on.
Laura Styles
Didn't he say he. He said he never experienced racism, Bro, I saw.
Ebro
I just looked yesterday. I was like. He was asked about Black Lives Matter, and he was basically like, my life matters. As long as my say my life matter. Excuse me.
Rosenberg
Yeah, no, it was, bro. That was in the throes. That was in the throes of protest and the height of Black Lives Matter. He completely punted on it all together. If Wayne cared half as much about black lives and about issues that matter as he did about not playing the super bowl, he'd be really brave. But he's never spoke about anything unrelated.
Ebro
Well, and I wonder what people are saying in the chat, because I was watching Rahsaan and shout out to Joe, who's in the building right now. I was looking at their Their physical response to what I just said about asking him a question in an interview and how he's responding. And they literally put their hands over their faces almost. And I'm not sure if that's because I wasn't supposed to point that out or they're embarrassed for low. Like, I'm not sure if people don't want to tell the truth about Lil Wayne. I love Lil Wayne, man. He's a great artist. He's made great music. I had zero expectation that he was going to get out on records and, like, take a political stand. Like, that wasn't. That wasn't something I looked a Little Wayne for. He's great. But I also hear what little Russell is saying. I hear what he's saying. And if you watch the clip, he's saying, I love Lil Wayne. But as I matured, I realized that he wasn't really talking about nothing. I saw the damage that was done to people who were standing him and trying to be like him. You know what I'm saying? And he even gave Lil Wayne credit for trying for saying some things on some songs. Because there are songs in Lil Wayne's catalog that are about mental health, about his drug addiction, about what happened to him as a child, about what's going on in New Orleans, about the. About the Hurricane Katrina. Like, he's definitely spoke on things in songs. It's just his stuff that is about nothing.
Laura Styles
Right.
Ebro
Or debauchery outweighs that piece of his catalog. And I think that people want to grade him on a curve because they're fans agree. And I. And for LA Russell, I think Will the Russell is saying now that he's an artist, he wants to be different. I think that's really where this comes from, is him saying, wow, somebody. I looked up to the reason I rap, and I looked up to this person, I realized this person wasn't saying a lot.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro
And I want to say something, and I want to handle this moment the right way.
Laura Styles
Right, right, right.
Ebro
Right now. LaRussell jumped back on the Internet. We got his. His second piece.
LaRussell
In the industry is two forms of marketing that's used heavily is seeding, and it's clipping. These two things have been monumental and beneficial to artists like myself as well, because whenever I have a viral moment, I'm able to mass distribute the moment to the world. On the flip side of that, most of these places don't have no integrity. Yesterday, probably like 20, 30 platforms across Instagram and Twitter all posted the same clip of me at the same time. With the same narrative. And the title says the Russell says this about Lil Wayne after signing to Jay Z. What the that got to do with anything? That's somebody with a budget in content. And the narrative saying, hey, go run this. I love Wayne, man. I wouldn't be the rapper I am today without he inspired me to do so much. He inspired me me to have bars, but he also inspired me to smoke weed, sip lean, shoot guns, all those things. And I turned out great.
Ebro
Now it's very interesting jump back on and you know, I'm a proponent, an advocate for this type of talk, especially when it comes to marketing budgets and narratives on the Internet. Because I've been bodied for years. I've been bodied from the Takashi Six Nines. I've been bodied by the Barbs. I've been bodied by ovo. I've been the, the, you know, the academics machine loves to get, get. They start the engine on me. And all of these blogs simultaneously. Like, he's saying, run with something where you'll be like, yo, all of y' all posted it at the same time. Which I, you know, for me, I like the marketing, But I think LaRussell kicked the Hornets nest. He got the trifecta because you talked about Lil Wayne. So you're gonna get the ovos on you gonna get the Barbs on you. You signed the Jay Z, Roc Nation, the HOV hate. Oh, man, the boogeyman. That's the trifecta. So you got the HOV haters. You got the Barbs and the ovos. They coming for you. The Owls, the Barbs.
Laura Styles
I. I will say he did say something that was very interesting that I saw moving around how certain outlets all kind of moving concerts. Right. And I was really trying to look for this last night because there was. I don't know if it was Isaac Hayes III or I don't remember who was it who made a video where he basically was showing everyone who owns what. And I think that's very important because a lot of people really think that a lot of these outlets. Well, some people think they're black owned.
Ebro
That's right.
Laura Styles
That. Which is not true. Some people think that they're actually ran by like real journalists. Not true.
Ebro
No.
Laura Styles
Or maybe at one point they were, but then they got sold. That's. That's another thing that's happening. But it's really important to see how a lot of these outlets, like who owns them, who's pushing the narrative. Because I, I'm not the only one. We've seen a Lot of these outlets like rap. There's one is at rap and then you see them start pushing like right wing content and you're like where is this coming from? And that's happening with a lot of outlets. That's something to pay attention.
Rosenberg
Well listen, I, I, I, I agree with all of this. I'm interested in all of it. I do think that his, the Russell's response was a little bit, I don't want to say it was disingenuous but it's also he spoke about the Russell's been gaining popularity and he spoke an interesting point about one of the most popular and talked about an interesting artist that there is. And it was a very compelling point. And we live in a time when he's right. Everyone does everything for clicks. I don't know if there was some organized plan to create backlash against the Russell much as we just know how these places operate. And he gave them very easy clickbait. And he's right. These places have no morals. If they see an opportunity, they are cutting the clip and they are running with it.
Ebro
Well, I think he did what, he.
Rosenberg
Walked it back a tad.
Ebro
Right. But what he pointed out wasn't the blowback, it was the headline.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
Mm.
Ebro
It was, they were saying because basically he signed to Roc Nation now he's got something negative to say about Lil Wayne.
Rosenberg
Oh yeah, that part's nonsense. That's part straight nonsense.
Ebro
Yeah, but I think that when you look at it through that lens of like wait a minute, I was just talking about Lil Wayne. The, the larger narrative is oh I'm hate, I gotta hate on Lil Wayne now that I'm signed to Roc Nation because Jay Z doesn't like Lil Wayne. Cause Jay Z didn't let him play at the Super Bowl. That's what he's pointing out. Is that that net that I agree with that part, that is a someone trying to shape a narrative. If it would have just been like la Russell gets backlash because of his comments on Lil Wayne or LaRussell think thinks it's Lil Wayne's fault that he started drinking Lean. Whatever the headline would have been, that's clean. That's what he said. No, no, no. They said little Russell signed a Roc Nation and now he, and now he's hating on Lil Wayne.
Rosenberg
Yeah, I guess, I guess I sort of ignored that part because it was so absurd. But you're absolutely right. I'm sure that is the worst part of it. And let's be honest, it continued all weekend because people seem to take it face value. DJ Vlad going full blown tin hat, ridiculous conspiracy.
Ebro
It's a busy weekend.
Rosenberg
About Roc Nation. Oh, man. People. I think some people fell too.
Laura Styles
I think sometimes the truth is coming.
Ebro
Hang on one second. Rosenberg, fix your mic. You're setting changed on your mic so your mic ain't right. Fix that. And then. Absolutely, people. People jumped in on believing Vlad.
Guest/Caller (possibly a producer or contributor)
No.
Laura Styles
They were like, finally somebody has the heart to come out and say it. People are celebrating. Like, the truth is finally here.
Ebro
No, because people want that to be the truth.
Laura Styles
Oh, my God.
Ebro
Do we have Vlad's tweet? Rahsaan, we don't have that. We don't have that set aside.
Laura Styles
Let me see.
Ebro
I got. We gotta Google that.
Laura Styles
But yeah, it was crazy. The amount of people who were really like, oh, my God, the truth is here.
Ebro
Yo, listen, make sure you subscribe right here. Make sure you subscribe to the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show right here on YouTube. You got it, Laura Styles.
Laura Styles
Two days ago, DJ Vlad said, I have a confession. Roc Nation has been paying me to support Megan. They also paid off all of the jury members to convict Tori. And they bribed the judge too. Jay Z did a verse for his grandson's new album. They paid off Megan's doctor to lie about the bullet fragments. She was never shot. The LA police are all on Jay's payroll. It doesn't stop with la. But you're not ready to hear that part. The Mexican guy who stabbed Tory, who do you think paid him to do that? You already know the answer to that. The three Supreme Court judges who denied Tory's appeal, all paid off by the rock mafia. Jay also paid Trump not to pardon Tory, even if it's a state case. Trump can only pardon federal cases. But knowing Trump likes to bend the rules, Jay wasn't taking any chances. I can't keep these lies a secret anymore. If this is my last tweet, you know who silenced me?
Ebro
Hilarious, bro. Now your man Vlad went ham. Just for him to jump up and say it was satire and jumped on with academics.
Laura Styles
I can't.
Ebro
Now, which one do y' all want to believe? Chat. Y' all want to believe that that's what Vlad really, really feels? Or do y' all want to believe it was satire? Y' all want to believe there's truth in Vlad's tweet? Because that's where it's at now on the Internet. Yeah, people are like, of course Hov put the pressure on him to change his tone.
Laura Styles
Yes, there was a. Beyonce posted a picture of her at the Super Bowl. Right. Sitting down with, like, a burger in the. And. And the Puerto Rican flag. Everyone's like, oh, my God. Celebrating. I saw it. And then you see the comments. They were like, oh, but she's in the Epstein files. No, her husband's in the Epstein, bro. No, no, no. And it's like, yo, people don't read. They do not. They go with whatever rumor they hear. Like, yep, yep.
Rosenberg
They said Lil went. They said Jay Z paid off Donald Trump to help Megan Thee.
Ebro
Stallion.
Laura Styles
Right?
Rosenberg
Are y' all re. Are you really believing. You really think there's a world in which the man was paying off Donald Trump? Ebro. I don't even understand what they're suggesting this is about. Why would Meg the Stallion be worth Jay Z risking absolutely everything?
Ebro
Before you go that far, Rosenberg, the Megan. The Tory Lanez case wasn't a Megan the Stallion trial. It was an LA county trial against Tory Lanez, who's not a citizen of the United States and who had a gun.
Laura Styles
Yes.
Ebro
That had been recently fired. That he didn't have a license for.
Laura Styles
Megan had to testify.
Ebro
Well, and then there. Then there's the part of it where Tori didn't decide to testify. Whatever legal advice he had gotten. And now everybody's coming out saying, what was the. Megan's friend?
Laura Styles
Was her name Kelsey?
Ebro
Kelsey's the one that actually did it. Well, if that's the case and you wanted to stay out of jail. And now the bodyguard. Now the bodyguards talking after he heard a conversation.
Laura Styles
Get out of here. Get out of here.
Rosenberg
I just. I. I just love the hilarity that we're supposed to think. It's interesting that DJ Vlad, who is a snitch. The man literally does interviews where he sits and gets people to tell on themselves. That's his entire career. He's generally not even.
Ebro
Well, that's not fair. He's a dj, too. He played. I mean, at some point, he played music. That was a long time ago.
Rosenberg
No, no, back in the day, he was a real mixtape dj. But the version that people know. The version that people know is this guy, and he's like, hold on, everybody. I'm gonna blow the whistle. You don't say you're a professional snitch. That's not news. And then you're gonna make it up. It's a complete. It's a complete fabrication. That is insane. I'm not saying Jay Z's perfect or infallible or the Rock is perfect or infallible. I don't. I'm not Roc Nation or I'm not slickly low key Roc Nation. I am not. But to make up this thing that they're the most evil empire. Jay Z's paying off judges and the President are y'. All, y' all been reading the Epstein. Y' all been too deep in the Epstein file algorithm. DJ Vlad, chill out.
Ebro
Well, no, but he said it was satire. He said his tweet was satire. He jumped on with academics and said it wasn't. Wasn't. He was joking, basically.
Laura Styles
And people still be like, no.
Ebro
And people then. And then people switched up again and was like, ah, Jay Z put pressure on. He got. They got to you?
Laura Styles
No, they got.
Ebro
No, he admitted that he was, he was click farming and, and it was. And he was just out here rage baiting. He admitted it was satire. He was playing around. Academics didn't want to believe him. The Internet was then frying it for that.
Rosenberg
But you can't do satire when your entire career is sat.
Ebro
Well, that's a problem. You are satisfied. Really? Congratulations. You played yourself.
Rosenberg
You, you can't now pretend like you're just being a goof when you're giving out this ridiculous information. This is what your entire platform is.
Ebro
That's why it seemed like we're taking this entirely too serious. If you be honest. Because if everything you're saying you believe about DJ Vlad Rosenberg, we're sitting here talking about it. He's still in the algorithm. He's still going to be talked about. People are still going to click on his things and he's still going to get paid, which is his end game. So while everybody's mad about somebody posting this thing and saying this thing or whatever, if you're still doing the behavior that gets them paid day one and you get this, congratulations, you played yourself. You know what I'm saying? Nicki Minaj put up some tweet too, didn't she? This weekend I try to ignore, oh yeah, her president, where she was saying that all these people stabbed her in the back and listed Drake, Lil Wayne, oh, that one. Epstein was on it. Barack Obama. All these people did her wrong. They're on her list. Was that a real thing or was that AI? I don't know.
Rosenberg
And again. Or are you trying to be. Is it parody? But you don't realize, Nikki, you have become parody. Your entire brand is parody. Because the next day you're putting up a happy President's Day meme with you and a fake picture of Donald Trump. You can't make jokes when you are a joke.
Ebro
That's not how the picture There you go. Now, the best part was when people zoomed in on the glass behind Donald Trump and they was like, yo, Donald Trump. Donald Trump is a black man in his reflection. His reflection was a black man.
Laura Styles
I thought y' all were gonna talk about how she was looking at her barbs to vote for the SAVE Act.
Ebro
Well, do people know what the SAVE act is? Laura Staff.
Laura Styles
Where they're trying to push this act, where it's like, there, it's mandatory identification when you register, when you go to vote.
Ebro
Yeah.
Laura Styles
But it's a little bit more complicated than that. So if you're a married woman who changed her name and your birth certificate doesn't match your current name, it'll cause problems for you because everything has to align. Not everybody has a passport. That's another thing. Half of 50% of Americans don't have a passport. So that's another issue. So it's a form of voter suppression that people have been talking about forever, but they're trying to simplify it. Like, Nikki was pushing the narrative that illegal immigrants are voting.
Ebro
You guys, illegal immigrants can't vote, man. You already have to be a citizen to vote. And the instances of non citizens voting is like, super duper rare.
Laura Styles
So rare. So it's just all, bro, it's such a mess sometimes. I'm like, look at where we're at as. As a society.
Ebro
Well, I mean, they're put. This SAVE act thing is making a lot of noise because people think that illegal immigrants are out here voting.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro
And time and time again, if you tell them you can't vote if you're an illegal, they. People just seemingly don't believe it. And if. And if you have to go as far as getting a passport to be able to vote, you know how long it's going to take you to get a passport or. Or an original birth certificate.
Laura Styles
Original birth certificate. Like, people don't know where their original birth certificate is.
Rosenberg
Bro. I'm. I'm dealing with it. I'm dealing with my original birth certificate right now because I'm trying to get my EU citizenship so I can get out of this place at some point.
Ebro
Yo, getting your.
Rosenberg
It's a thing. Getting the original law form birth certificate is a thing. And this is what they want to eventually do. They want to make it just impossible for, in their eyes, Democrats to vote. That's the plan.
Laura Styles
But I'm going to bring this up again, especially for married women who take their husband's last name, it's going to be very hard, you know, when you Dig deep in Project 2025 or whatever the new one is.
Ebro
They don't want women voting.
Laura Styles
They do not want women to vote. In their dream world, one vote per household. And who is the head of the household? Usually the man. That's what they want. So I just think that people should really, really also just, just that should make you be like, wait, this isn't, this isn't right. This isn't right. Because it's going to be very difficult for married women to, to cast their votes. And that's what they want.
Ebro
Well, and they definitely want less and less black and brown people voting.
Laura Styles
Yep.
Ebro
And there's some elections that are supposed to, that are really important happening in March in Texas. Right. And they want, they want to fast track this SAVE act through in February. And they've made, written the bill. So as soon as it's signed. Oh, you have, you have the clip of the, of the woman talking about it in the, in the session the other day. This is. Who is this woman? The save at committee hearing.
Guest/Caller (possibly a producer or contributor)
Does your driver's license tell us where you were born? It does not. You cannot use this ID to register to vote under your bill. Is that correct? Chairman Stiles, do you have a passport?
Ebro
I personally do.
Guest/Caller (possibly a producer or contributor)
You do have a passport.
Ebro
Part of the. Roughly 50% of Americans.
Laura Styles
You're roughly 50.
Guest/Caller (possibly a producer or contributor)
50% of Americans have a passport. About 50% of Americans don't travel internationally. They don't have that money. 21.3 million American citizens of voting age don't have ready access to citizenship documents. You have changed the enactment date of this bill to go in theft as soon as it is signed into law. If that happens, by rushing this into law, you are going to prevent so many people from being able to register to vote.
Ebro
That's the point.
Guest/Caller (possibly a producer or contributor)
Acceptable. When you say how many immigrants or too many voting, I would ask. I'd flip the question and ask you how many eligible citizens Are you worried about being turned away because you are rushing something like this into law? Do you care?
Ebro
No, they don't. The answer is no.
Laura Styles
No, of course not. They don't care.
Rosenberg
It's intentional. That's why.
Laura Styles
That's the plan.
Ebro
Can we hear from my spirit animal, Pearl mania? I think 5,000 on Instagram. You know the redhead dude that screams at the camera?
Rosenberg
Oh, you love this guy.
Ebro
No, that's my guy.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
I want to force everybody to use a passport inside their own country because that way the only valid passports will end up being owned by Republicans. The end game here is to make sure that when you Go. To go vote, that you have to go hand them a passport. And they'll take that passport and they'll scan it. And then suddenly it's going to come up that your passport was stolen, your passport's invalid. We have questions about your passport. And then I'll look at that. Suddenly, on election day, because we're only going to allow people to vote in person at election day at those exact polling places for voter safety.
Ebro
Bull.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
Suddenly, suddenly, suddenly, suddenly, all these people are gonna get turned away from the polls. Suddenly, suddenly, suddenly, all these people aren't gonna be able to go vote. And I have their voices heard. And actually be able to choose a legitimate government because all these people are gonna be declared individually, themselves as illegitimate. What's the precedent for this? Oh, I don't know. The story of black people in the south from 1865-19. 1865. How do you not know that? Everything they're trying to do is an exact thing that they did to black people for a hundred years in front of everybody's goddamn eyes until the point we had to send the military down there to actually make sure that some votes got counted. And that's still getting cooked. That shit's still getting rocked by the same exact Supreme Court that has been installed by the same exact illegitimate government over and over and over again. We got to sit through this time and time again to learn the same exact lessons that y' all wouldn't have to relive if you would just read one book.
Ebro
One book, maybe two, might be three, but at least one.
Laura Styles
What are you saying? Based on facts.
Ebro
Super facts. Super facts. And. And. And the part. The part that we're going through right now as a nation, that everybody's having this awakening. Everybody's like, what's happening? This isn't the America that I. No, it is. It is the America that you believed in. It is the America that you thought was so great. It is. It always has been. And black people try to tell you. Black. Black people been telling y'. All. Y' all didn't want to listen. You don't want to listen when we talked about the corruption going on and black kids coming up missing and organ farming, you guys, nobody wanted to listen to that. Cuz, you know, the communities they pick on first when they're abducting children. And organ farming is the poor ones. The ones that have the narrative built against them that they're the problem. Because nobody's going to listen to poor black and brown people and poor white.
Rosenberg
People for that Ebro. I I can't help but think about as sad as the Savannah Guthrie's mom story is, it's. You realized the amount of black and brown children that disappear and don't even get a mention in the news.
Laura Styles
Yes.
Rosenberg
And a famous person's old mother. And it's still very sad. Is has gone missing and it's dominating every newspaper.
Ebro
That's right.
Rosenberg
Every news cycle. Everything black and brown shoulder disappear. Not even a story.
Laura Styles
No. As soon as I think a couple years ago, I remember there was like a. They found a body somewhere of like a woman. But if it's a black woman though. Possible sex worker. They just dismissed.
Ebro
Absolutely. No. But by the way. But by the way, if you are black or brown in this America, this is generational. This isn't just right now. These stories have been moving around, but they were conspiracy theories. Oh, you wearing your tin hat. That could never happen in the US we're never going back. Congratulations. You played yourself. Feels like we headed right in that direction. Matter of fact, they're writing country songs about waking up. Let me. Where's my country song? You heard this song? It hung by the door on a rusty old nail A symbol of pride in a small town.
Rosenberg
I wore it through fields through rallies and rain but.
Ebro
Now it just carries a shadow of shame so I'm burning my red hat.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
Watching it glow the fiery flies I didn't wanna know I can't stand with a man who divides into sea I.
Ebro
Just wowed by you burning my red.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
Hell.
Ebro
I'm setting myself free.
Rosenberg
Kind of a bar, though.
Ebro
Congratulations.
Laura Styles
I said wow because I was. I was halfway listening and then heard I'm burning my red hat. You're just.
Guest/Caller (possibly a producer or contributor)
Right now.
Laura Styles
Right now, you're like, well, the reason.
Ebro
I'm playing right now is because you know how y' all got here. Why you at it while you're claiming this shame and you got to burn a red hat because you don't listen to black people. That's how you got here, bro. Because you're not listening to the most disenfranchised, abused group other than Native Americans that has been vocal about this BS for generations. Man. You're not listening.
Rosenberg
I mean.
Ebro
And you have to ask yourself, why aren't you listening? That's racist.
Rosenberg
Could have listened to so many people about Trump. It's beyond that. It's more than. They just weren't listening.
Ebro
It's.
Rosenberg
They liked the things it was saying about black people.
Ebro
There you go.
Rosenberg
Why they picked up the red hat in the first place.
Ebro
Racist.
Rosenberg
Now, listen. I'M all, I'm all for you burning it. I'm all for you having the moment of reckoning. That's great. But it's also that button right over there.
Ebro
Congratulations, you played yourself, Ibro.
Rosenberg
I know, I know. We're running low on time. I don't want to forget we got mad people in the super chat.
Ebro
Super chat.
Rosenberg
Let's go. Chef, Chef, Chef. Daniel Brown, always coming through, wants to show love. RIP Jesse Jackson, a man among men. Vicki came through and said watching from bed today. I'm a teacher off of work this week. Been a fought for years. Loving the new stew and the new plans.
Ebro
Love it. People had a chance to tune in, tune in this week in New York in the tri state who normally jump in their car. You know, you could jump in your car, throw this on the YouTube app and, and hit the Bluetooth and listen.
Laura Styles
That's right.
Rosenberg
Yeah. Because I did, I did run into a few people in Atlantic City who said they miss us and I. And I have to explain the situation. So. Yeah. Shout out to Eric Motion. Shout out to Olivia who said, I believe Nikki is behind all of this. Jay Z hate 100%. Shouts to Ramo Deflore. Shout out to my daughter mia. Today's her 11th birthday.
Ebro
Happy birthday.
Laura Styles
Happy birthday.
Rosenberg
Yo, Rick says I've been a fan since the days of picking Rosenberg sad ass socks or Laura's firebox.
Ebro
What?
Rosenberg
I don't know, you know.
Ebro
Oh, that's an old game. Yo, question chat. Should we bring back some of our classic games? Sack of box was. Oh, that was a great game.
Laura Styles
So bad.
Rosenberg
That ain't classic.
Laura Styles
Terrible.
Ebro
That's not a good chef Daniel with that bend.
Laura Styles
No.
Ebro
Rosenberg, sack or Laura. We're gonna have prizes though. I'm. We working on prizes. I'm working on cardi b tickets.
Guest/Caller (possibly a producer or contributor)
Yeah.
Ebro
You know what I'm saying? We working on a. Yo, we working on a. What did we call it? The family summer fest. You know what I'm saying? We might have an event popping this summer.
Laura Styles
People have been asking for in person event. So we're working on it.
Ebro
Yeah.
Laura Styles
All right, well, can we get into rundown please?
Ebro
Oh, it's rundown time.
Laura Styles
Yes. Let's go.
Ebro
Hang on, let me find it.
Rosenberg
And it's beyond rundown. Turn that up.
Ebro
Screens on Glo when she pull up headlines heavy but we still caught up. Life still flashing.
Rosenberg
We don't slow.
Laura Styles
All right, J. Cole announced the fall off world tour. 50 cities, 15 countries. So it kicks off July 11th in. In Charlotte and then it's scheduled to wrap up December 12th in Johannesburg. So. And he's coming to the Garden, Madison Square Garden, on August 4th. So tickets are available for the general public. They go on sale Friday, February 20th. So you. J. Cole made a lot of surprise appearances over the weekend in Queens. You know, he's doing his trunk sale tour 26, where he's driving his car, selling, you know, albums from the trunk of his car, letting people hop in and. And listen to them. So he hit up a deli in Queens, the 179Deli, and he also hit up St. John's University, but he also stopped by, which I thought was super special. So I haven't really talked about this on the show, but a friend of mine by the name of Shanae Curry, who is my connection to her through Envision and the Envision foundation and Envision Fest, somebody I. I loved. So I was leaving a lot of the times I was leaving the show to go to the hospital because she was battling cancer, breast cancer. And. And. And sadly, Shanae. Shanae lost her life.
Ebro
Damn. Rest in peace, Shanae. I saw a lot of people talking about Shanae life.
Laura Styles
Oh, my God. She was a beautiful soul. A beautiful soul. So I was having a hard time last week and. And, you know, just dealing with that, you know, having to say goodbye to somebody. But I'm just super thankful that I was able to see her while she was still with us. But, yeah, J. Cole stopped by her celebration of life, which I thought was super special.
Ebro
You told me, Mom. Donnie gave her a call, too.
Laura Styles
Yes. Because when she, you know, when he was campaigning, she was going hard for him. So there was these beautiful pictures. And I guess I was trying to figure out, like, how can we get him to, like, know what's happening? Because there's a beautiful picture, a video that went viral of him. Him, you know, thanking Shanae for all her work, and it was super cool to see. And, yeah, towards the end, he ended up giving her a call and thanked her, and she was awaked and she. She received energy, the message. So I was very happy about that. But, yeah, that was super special. When I saw that, guys, you know, I. I choked up. You know what I mean? It's been difficult for me and for a lot of people who loved her. And the message is still here. You know, I've talked about it for years on the show. Early detection will save your life. And then, unfortunately, hers was just like, this was her second time getting cancer.
Ebro
Damn.
Laura Styles
So the second time took her.
Guest/Caller (possibly a producer or contributor)
But.
Ebro
And I know it's very Hard for you, Laura, because you've had a lot of people close to you fight that battle. So. Yeah, it's triggering in many ways.
Laura Styles
Yeah. I lost one of my best friends two years ago to cancer. It's horrible. I'm so. Sometimes I'm just tired of losing amazing people to this horrible disease, you know, But. But in more positive. I'm trying not to cry.
Ebro
Don't worry about it. Work through it. Work through it. Take your time. Don't feel like you gotta pivot. You know what I mean? It's a very tough thing. And the other part of is it's. There's people I'm sure tuned in right now who also are often triggered. Right. Whether it's a commercial that plays or a fundraiser, they see or. I saw some people talking about these. These new cures.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro
And even new cures trigger people. Because it's like, why didn't you have that with my loved one?
Laura Styles
Right, right, right. And sometimes it's money, you know, they're so expensive. And not being able to have the money that could possibly saved your loved one is heartbreaking.
Rosenberg
Yeah.
Laura Styles
You know, but it just made me so happy because I know if she was still here, she would have been ex, like, beyond, you know what I mean? To be able to have J. Cole stop by her party, because originally the party was scheduled to be a fundraiser to help her family. Because guys only do you have to deal with the pain of losing your loved one, but the bills that are attached to it. You know what I mean? So her whole GoFundMe is still up. And if you can't support Shanae Curry, she was an incredible human being and we're just so lucky. I'm so lucky to be able to work with her. And there is a video that we put out with these two other beautiful young ladies that, you know, experience cancer at a very young age. Because remember, cancer doesn't discriminate.
Ebro
That's right.
Laura Styles
It doesn't discriminate. But yes. So, yeah, I was very happy to see J. Cole come and show love.
Ebro
Well, and can we just give a moment to J. Cole for just being amazing? I mean, I love seeing him pull up in the beat up Honda and, you know, and just fans happy to see him. And, you know, it's interesting, I found myself thinking about the whole lil Wayne LaRussell, you know, thing. And we have so many great hip hop icons right now that actually are saying something and standing for something and own their narrative, own their business, own the content they're creating. Like it's a great. As much as we can critique where a lot of BS happens in hip hop on social media. There's a lot of beauty taking place in hip hop. And I don't think gets. Gets a lot of coverage, but you know what I mean, it's. J. Cole's a special dude, man. I'm glad this. This album. I got the vinyl last night, and I was. I was. I was showing Salah. I put it on my. On my stories. When I got the vinyl, Selassie has a little Trolls desk. She was sitting there doodling on her little. A little, like this little doodle pad where they can draw and then erase. I don't know what's wrong. Yeah, yeah, not quite. It's kind. We call it Etch A Sketch, but it ain't really. It's something different. But anyway, and on the COVID of the J. Cole album, you know, is this his old desk where he was making his first beats?
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro
So I was like, yo, look, J. Cole had a little desk just like you. Nah, but it's cool, man. And, you know, it's just cool to have. Have kids. Like, Issa loves the J. Cole album.
Laura Styles
I love that.
Ebro
And I don't have a. Like, I don't have a problem with her listening to that. Yeah, like, that makes me happy.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Ebro
You know, so it's dope, man. And salute to J. Cole and salute to your friend and rest in peace to. To Shanae and anybody out there that's dealing with a family member and a loved one going through a health crisis and dealing with cancer. You know, we extend love to. To you wherever you are.
Laura Styles
Absolutely. In other petty news, is this low down?
Ebro
Is it low down time?
Laura Styles
Well, we could take it there.
Guest/Caller (possibly a contributor)
Come on.
Laura Styles
I mean, it's time for the Low down with Laura Sty. Well, Cardi B, you know, she's on tour right now.
Ebro
Yeah.
Laura Styles
I just saw this video of Kehlani backstage with Cardi, and she's telling Cardi it's just so much ass. It was really funny. It was really funny. But Cardi B, you know, when she's on stage, she's going through all her songs, and of course, she's performing pretty and petty. Which way she takes shots at Bia. So Bia decided to tweet something she wrote. Can you name someone with more BMs than receiving yards?
Ebro
Oh, man, I can.
Laura Styles
And I know what? Never mind. Never mind.
Ebro
Oh, man.
Laura Styles
So this is Cardi after it came out. Look, there's a tweet.
Ebro
So see now, B, you Didn't have to do this. Which means. Which means you wanted to smoke. I hope you got a song about to drop. This week, today, tomorrow, something. Let's. Let's make this a moment then.
Laura Styles
So this is Cardi at her show, basically, I guess, responding to her.
Ebro
I think they working together. That was too. Be gave Cardi B a layup right there.
Laura Styles
You think so?
Ebro
Absolutely. That's con. That's tour promo for Cardi B. Music promo for bia. They're in cahoots.
Laura Styles
Oh, my God.
Ebro
They're in cahoots.
Laura Styles
I'm like, but, yeah, just give us a. Give us some more songs. Give us some more records. All right, so this one. Ebro. Listen, I'm putting my. I'm putting my tin hat on with you because I saw this moving around, and I've heard Luke talk about this before, right? But this particular video, I want. I want to pull it up. It's from an interview on SiriusXM. I think it was 2016. Now watch this.
I
It was like, hey, man, I got. I got a pageant down here. I'm hosting these women at the house, okay? Up in Palm beach station, some cars to pick us up. We get in the cars, we drive up there. Me, Mike, Eddie Murphy, we all in our own individual cars. Car service drove us up there. We got there, he showed us around the house, and before you know it, the rooms and everything started popping. It was no dj. Hey, get in where you fit in whatever room you gonna go in, you go into that room. When I. When I started looking at so many girls faces, I was like, man, these girls don't look like they're old enough.
Rosenberg
Were.
Ebro
Was there sex? Was there?
I
Of course.
Ebro
I guess that's a stupid question now.
I
To ask is that I wasn't clear whether or not they were adults. And I wasn't clear whether or not, you know, whether I wanted to be in that kind of environment where some of these other things that was going on in, bro.
Laura Styles
So if you don't didn't understand what Luke was saying. He said when I started looking at some of these girls faces, I was like, man, these girls don't look like they're old enough. I can't be up in here. I gotta go. If I'm going to jail, then somebody's going to extort me or something for being here. So you got a bunch of these women running around. Some women look too young.
Ebro
I mean, listen, and that was 10 years ago.
Laura Styles
He's talking about Mar A Lago.
Ebro
Yeah.
Laura Styles
Invited to a party at Mar A lago.
Ebro
That's right. Going room to room. Listen, I think right now what you're watching is you have individuals that are relentless with talking about Trump, Trump. And these Epstein files are the Epstein files in general, which I applaud you. But I think there's a lot of other people who don't know what to do next and are waiting for someone to. At the federal level or some sort of law enforcement agency to take this to the next phase, whatever that's going to be. So it feels like from now until that happens, and there are people who are going to. This is their life's mission, and I love you for it. Making sure that everyone mentioned in these files that had something to do with the rape, traffic, murder of people in these files is held accountable.
Laura Styles
Yes.
Ebro
This is some dark stuff, and I need to reiterate it. Donald Trump is in the files over a million times. There are people mentioned in the files. And you're like, like, okay, they're mentioned. They were at a party. Maybe they were in a photo. Not good. Not what you want. Also a congratulations, you played yourself. But then there's people who have thousands, hundreds of thousands of correspondence between themselves and Epstein, where they plan to go to events, begging to go to his events, talking about what happened at the event. That's more than just, oh, somebody called a tip line and hearsay. That is you corresponding with someone else via email about this world, about this sex trafficking ring, about this criminal enterprise. And then there's the political, socio political ramifications of Epstein and Bannon talking about what they were doing to divide and use and spend money to create narratives that divided the public or helped out with Brexit. All of that is in the Epstein files. His connection to the Mossad, his connection to Israel.
Laura Styles
It's all power.
Ebro
That's all his connection. Do we have the. The photo of the guy that was the CEO of Dubai that had to step down, who was mentioned in the file? Some. What's this guy's name?
Laura Styles
I saw this.
Ebro
Dubai CEO resigns, thanking him for a torture video. That's. That's different than being mentioned in the Epstein files.
Laura Styles
Ugh.
Ebro
That's another level. There's levels to these files. What do you have in your hand? Lord style.
Laura Styles
Oh, sorry. Something for later.
Ebro
Are you ready for the guru?
Laura Styles
Yes, yes, yes.
Ebro
All right, we'll get to the gurus in a second. I'm not done ranting about the Epstein.
Laura Styles
File because it's in. Insane. It's insane. All of it is crazy. But the question is Ebro who's going to jail.
Ebro
That's what everybody's waiting for. There's actually a trigger warning. Well, you know what? I'll air this tomorrow because we're running out of time.
Laura Styles
Okay.
Ebro
Her name is Dr. Leslie Dobson. I started following her. She's a lawyer and a doctor, I believe. And she has made it her life's mission to bring down and high. To bring down the people in the files and highlight what's going on in the files. But we'll get into that tomorrow. Thanks for the rundown there and the lowdown.
Laura Styles
Sure. Hold on to your speakers.
Ebro
Do we need like low down graphics? Like when I hit that music, music. Should something like pop up on the screen or something? Or like when we get into the rundown, do we need like, take this, take this show to another level? Like when we mention something, graphics pop up and it's visual and it's audio chat. Do you guys want that level of production? Like TV production? Let's get to the gurus. See, right there we could add. It's time for the gurus that I do.
Laura Styles
Like, I think we need some.
Ebro
You know what I'm saying?
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro
Could have had something. All right, what you got?
Laura Styles
Let me. Zen, zen, zen. Breathe in, breathe out. All right, let's do this.
Ebro
Wait. We lost Rosenberg's feet, huh?
Laura Styles
I think we did, yeah.
Ebro
Raggedy.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah. All right. Dear gurus, first I want to say I love, love, love, love, love, love you guys. Longtime listener and fought. Thank you for always keeping us a part of the plans and never missing a beat. Mornings wouldn't be the same without you.
Ebro
Oh, thanks. Thanks.
Laura Styles
All right, so let me get into it. I'm a single mother. I'm a single mom of a 15 year old student athlete. I have to emphasize this because ball is literally life. My schedule's tight. You guys know how this is. I've been single since My son was 3 years old. And now that I'm getting older, I can finally say I'm ready to put myself out there again. I'm 35 years old and not really into the online dating thing. How do I start putting myself out there again? How is it that in the 12 years of being single, I've only been able to find taken men or people just looking for a come up? Obviously, I've had my little rendezvous throughout the years, but no one ever worthy of locking it down. Where do you find people looking for genuine connections these days? P.S. his dad has always been around, so it's not like I'm Looking for a father for my son. Just someone to share my life with, which obviously includes my son. But do I. Do I need to make time for a hobby?
Ebro
Yes.
Laura Styles
Did I just not find the right app and then sidebar says, can we get the Kenzo drop back? I think we got it.
Ebro
Which one?
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, well, that's a good one too, kids. And yeah, she misses Shawnee and cast one.
Ebro
Oh, they're doing good. I hear cast one over there. He's getting some mic time.
Laura Styles
Yes.
Ebro
Shani's mic time's been clipped a little bit, I hear. But he has a show. He's got a new show. Yes, yes, that's good. What is it? The.
Laura Styles
I don't know, it's like worldwide something.
Ebro
Oh, he didn't go with the Worldwide Update.
Rosenberg
Yeah, it's new music Saturday mornings.
Ebro
All right, Saturday mornings, Worldwide Update. New music with shiny culture.
Laura Styles
So they're working.
Ebro
Support them.
Laura Styles
They're good. They're good. They're.
Ebro
Go support them. 35 years old and what'd she say? Her kid is out 13.
Laura Styles
Her kid is 15.
Ebro
15? Yeah, 15 years old.
Laura Styles
She doesn't want to do the apps.
Ebro
Don't want to do the apps. Ma', am, I got news for you. Something's got to give.
Laura Styles
You have to make time for a hobby. Yes.
Ebro
Well, no. Well, she's already said in the top of her email she prioritized her kids basketball.
Laura Styles
But at the end she says, do I need to make time for a hobby?
Ebro
If you can. But it feels like you're wrapped up with your work life and basketball and so where is this person that you want to lock down with supposed to fit in? I think you need to get focused and you need to find somebody that really know how to lay that hammer down, that lay em down, smack em, yak em, you know what I'm saying? Dip out. You know you got a 15 year old son. Honey, I'll be back 1, 2 o' clock in the morning, go get you a hotel, have you a nice little dinner once a week. Boom, boom, bing.
Laura Styles
She's had the rendezvous. She said. I think she's really trying to find like a genuine person.
Ebro
Nah, you gotta just hold out for like 3 years till your son's out the house, man.
Laura Styles
I don't know. I do think, listen, I have a different point of view. I do think you need to make time for a hobby. I think you need to make time for yourself. That's the. If you're not in the gaps, that's.
Ebro
The only thing I Don't disagree with you, Laura. I'm just saying she ain't gonna make time. Something's gotta give.
Laura Styles
Yeah, it's up to you. This one is up to you. Cause either can you make the time.
Ebro
So when my mom. When I was 15 and my mom was trying to date, by the way, at 15 years old, I'm 6ft tall, 190 pounds. So dudes would call the house, and I'd be like, hello? That don't really rock that long. I'm gonna keep it a hundred with you. Now, not everybody got their own phones. A woman doesn't have to deal with that, right? Calling your phone. Your son ain't answering the phone, being like, mom, some dude on the phone.
Laura Styles
Or not, she's not here.
Ebro
Yeah.
Rosenberg
Or.
Ebro
But when people come over your house and you got your big brolic look, your son playing basketball, I'm assuming he got some height on him. You know what I mean? That's another grown man in the house. And I'm sure he got a little attitude with the new dudes that pop up. So that's a challenge. It's a challenge. And it'll hopefully get easier when he goes off to college or whatever. But right now, it's tough. And you just gotta, you know, stick with the rendezvous. Maybe something will click. Get a hobby. You know what I mean?
Laura Styles
Yeah, I'm with you. Just get the hobby, and then maybe you'll just. And then you might just meet some cool people. You know what I mean? Just. Just step in with an open mind. But, yeah, you said that your schedule is super tight, so hopefully, if you can start trying to see where you can fit in, hobby and time for.
Ebro
Yourself, and your son's gonna need a scholarship. You know, maybe one of these coaches is looking right, you know what I'm saying? Set that joint up a little. A little nepotism. Throw the show. You know what I'm saying?
Laura Styles
No, no, no.
Ebro
Throw the show for the basketball show. Get yourself one of them scholarships.
Laura Styles
No, find a hobby. Meet new people. That's it. So say Laura the guru.
Ebro
Get a scholarship.
Laura Styles
Thank y', all, man. Thank you for rocking with us. We love y'. All.
Ebro
Good times.
Laura Styles
Hit like, please.
Ebro
Hit like. Hit like. Do all the things that you're supposed to do to make sure the algorithm is popping for us so more people can find us. We got to figure out a marketing plan. The amount of people that walk up and are like, walk up to us, and they're like, yo, where y' all at now? We miss y'.
LaRussell
All.
Ebro
Then I. I was telling people, everyone thinks everyone is on social media, and a lot of people are, but their algorithm, they don't see it. They're not on there enough. Things come and go very fast. People have their regular everyday lives. So we're gonna have to. Maybe we're gonna have to pay to, like, take over a subway station or something, you know? I mean, doing big Times Square billboards when our money get right.
Laura Styles
Yeah, we gotta figure it out, you know?
Ebro
I mean, what are those posters on the.
Laura Styles
The wheat paste.
Ebro
Yeah, we need some of those posters on. On construction sites. And we need all that, man. So thank you, E. Laura Rosenberg is the show. Subscribe. We appreciate y'. All. We'll see y' all tomorrow. Just don't call it a podcast.
Date: February 17, 2026
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The hosts, Ebro, Laura Styles, and Rosenberg, kick off their new show with a freewheeling, wide-ranging discussion of current events, legacy and loss in hip hop and American society, viral moments, conspiracy narratives, the role of media, and genuine community engagement. Major focuses include the passing of civil rights legend Jesse Jackson, rap culture’s competitive history, LaRussell's controversial comments on Lil Wayne’s legacy, DJ Vlad’s conspiracy-laden tweet, voting rights debates (specifically the SAVE Act), and navigating personal loss. The episode blends cultural commentary, media criticism, hip hop discourse, and personal reflections, all in the show's witty, sometimes mischievous, always candid style.
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The conversation is incisive, playful, sometimes caustic, always candid—a blend of hip hop insider banter, sharp media critique, real progressive politics, and personal vulnerability. The episode balances respect for the past and criticism of present culture, while constantly challenging how truth is mediated, manipulated, and consumed in both music and politics.
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This episode offers heartfelt tributes to legendary figures, incisive dissections of media power and viral culture, revealing debates in hip hop legacy, exposed conspiracies and their role in shaping public opinion, deeply personal stories of loss, and the ongoing struggle for justice, both within the community and the country. Whether you care about hip hop, civil rights, political corruption, or simply honest entertainment, there’s plenty here for thoughtful engagement.