43.) State of the Union Reaction + Lil Uzi Moment Anniversary (2/25/26)

Summary

Podcast Summary

The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show
Episode 43: State of the Union Reaction + Lil Uzi Moment Anniversary
Date: February 26, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode features Ebro Darden, Laura Styles, and Peter Rosenberg diving into their reactions to the Trump-led State of the Union address, controversial political and racial incidents making headlines, and a rundown of recent pop culture moments. The hosts bring their usual wit and unfiltered commentary, unpacking the implications of politics, media, race, and music culture, while also marking the anniversary of Rosenberg's infamous Lil Uzi Vert moment.

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Key Discussion Points

1. State of the Union Recap and Reactions

• Duration: [00:36]–[21:43]

  • Rosenberg recaps his "live reaction" stream for the State of the Union, noting Trump’s unusually long speech and the performative nature of the event.

    • Rosenberg: “His stand-up has fallen off… It’s not a tight hour anymore. He’s doing a loose two hours and it just wasn’t good.” [01:27]

  • Disbelief and criticism at how Trump used immigrant narratives and orchestrated the appearance of a hockey team to hype up nationalistic chants.

    • Rosenberg: “He started going off on the most insane rant… ‘We’ve been winning so much. People are saying, Mr. President, I can’t take the winning.’” [02:40]

  • Discussion about the actual purpose and tradition of the State of the Union.

    • Ebro: “Literally, the President talks to them and the country. Because Congress represents the country… They’re talking to them as he’s talking to the people giving them the state…” [03:02]

  • Notable Moment:
    USA Chant Critique

    • Rosenberg and Ebro roast the “USA” chant as corny and performative.
    • Rosenberg: “I’ve never been in...even during the best of times when I’m proud of the country, I’m out. It’s just corny.” [04:26]

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2. Race, Representation, and Outrage

• Duration: [05:04]–[15:19]

  • Laura and Ebro address incidents of racism and protest in Congress, including Representative Al Green’s display of a sign reading “Black People Are Not Apes” and being escorted out amid “USA” chants.
    • Ebro: “It angers me...the idea that Black people are showing up to a room full of white people and holding up signs to proclaim that we’re not animals…” [06:23]
  • Reaction to Hunter College professor Alison Freeman’s racist remarks in an online meeting with a Black student.
    • Laura: “These folks are unraveling, y’all, and they’re trying to get us to unravel with them.” [09:09]
    • Ebro: “The way they play with Black people. No, it’s bananas.” [07:46]
  • Discussion on maintaining composure in the face of ongoing racial microaggressions and societal provocation.
    • Ebro: “I implore all of you… take a deep breath, stay on your square, think about the bigger picture…” [10:16]

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3. Immigration, Border Patrol, and Epstein Connections

• Duration: [11:27]–[14:43]

  • Caller details new Guardian report connecting Border Patrol agents and Epstein, plus conditions at ICE’s Dilley Center.
    • Guest: “The Guardian just released an article that Epstein had a close connection with Border Patrol…text messages, emails asking him for financial advice and a loan, flying on his private jet…” [11:28]
  • Ebro critiques the lack of transparency and accountability at immigration centers and government events.
    • Ebro: “You’re not going to get that at the State of the Union… you’re not going to get the reality that Trump is removing Black history, actively…” [13:36]
  • Discussion expands to systemic issues in health care and government appointments.

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4. Affordability, Tariffs, and Economic Realities

• Duration: [22:23]–[27:33]

  • The hosts break down Trump’s claims about economic improvement and tariffs, noting how tariffs cost American households $1,600–$2,600 yearly.
    • Ebro: “According to estimates, Trump’s tariffs have cost US households…in higher prices.” [23:23]
    • Rosenberg: “If you support the tariffs, you are being played.” [24:49]
  • Skit illustrating how tariffs actually burden small business owners.
    • Guest/Coffee Shop Owner: “I usually pay $20 to import a bag of coffee beans, now I have to pay $25 because of the tariffs.” [25:28]

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5. 2026 Election Speculation (Kamala, Gavin Newsom, Dems Strategy)

• Duration: [27:33]–[34:38]

  • Kamala Harris’ candidacy is debated, with skepticism if she—or even Gavin Newsom—can energize enough voters.
    • Rosenberg: “Is she the person who’s going to galvanize people? That’s the question.” [29:03]
  • Ebro and Laura unpack the Democratic establishment’s preference for courting moderates over energizing young and progressive voters.
    • Ebro: “Democratic establishment is more interested in attracting moderate Republicans than they are…young and leftist leaning people.” [31:35]
    • Rosenberg: “The playing safe right now is not the play to win.” [31:56]
  • Extended discussion of American alliances, especially with Israel, framed through geopolitical and financial interests.

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6. Pop Culture Rundown

• "Jay-Z Reasonable Doubt Anniversary Rumors"

  • Duration: [35:41]–[39:15]
  • Jay-Z website tease and likely Barclays Center concerts for Reasonable Doubt 30th anniversary.
    • Laura: “The big rumor right now is that Jay-Z is probably gonna have a Reasonable Doubt 30th anniversary concert in New York…” [35:49]

• 50 Cent vs. T.I., Tina Knowles Incident

  • Duration: [40:31]–[45:27]
  • Recap of escalating beef, with 50 Cent’s controversial posts targeting Tiny and Tina Knowles, reactions from the Beehive and hosts.
    • Rosenberg: "He thinks being a public bully is, like, so cool and fun. Like, bro, 50, you’re 50. What are you doing?" [44:00]
    • Ebro: “When it gets to the grandmothers, I'm turned off, man.” [46:02]

• Britney Spears Welfare Concerns

  • Duration: [46:17]–[51:39]
  • Reflections on Britney’s public struggles, childhood exploitation, and the debate over conservatorship.
    • Rosenberg: "This is an American story. You want a real American entertainment story? It’s what we’re seeing with Britney Spears." [48:37]
    • Ebro: “No one responsible has ever been in charge.” [49:38]

• Wu-Tang's Power Passes Away

  • Duration: [51:49]–[53:17]
  • Remembering and honoring “Power,” a behind-the-scenes legend in the Wu-Tang Clan’s success.

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7. AI & Media: Racial Slurs in Tech, Ongoing Disrespect

• Duration: [53:18]–[56:12]

  • Google AI blunder involving the N-word in BAFTA Awards news alert discussed; the hosts view it as part of a broader pattern.
    • Ebro: “They enjoy the outrage; it gets clickbait…Somewhere, somebody, somewhere…is laughing.” [55:04]
  • The use of the N-word still isn’t regulated like other slurs/curses; the hosts argue this is by design.
    • Rosenberg: “The N word we know is the worst word...and it’s not on the list of words you can’t say.” [55:29]

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8. Lil Uzi Vert “You’re Not a Rockstar” Moment—10 Year Anniversary

• Duration: [57:09]–[62:03]

  • Reflections on Ebro’s viral interview and ongoing playful trolling by Uzi fans.
    • Ebro: “I like to be proven wrong. I would love an artist to prove me wrong…Prove me wrong. Yeah, Uzi Vert put in that work.” [57:31]
  • Discussion about what makes a “rockstar” in hip hop.

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9. Listener Letters: Supporting Someone With Addiction

• Duration: [65:31]–[71:55]

  • Emotional advice segment responding to a listener’s struggle supporting a loved one battling opioid addiction.
    • Laura: “One of the hardest things here is the person has to actually want the help…if they don’t want the help, sometimes you kind of have to step away and just let them know…I can’t watch you kill yourself.” [69:00]
    • Ebro: “Try just one thing. It’s not going to be a flip, a switch and everything’s all perfect again…Can you get step one done, which is them acknowledging they want help? That’s boom.” [70:56]

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10. Miscellaneous & Superchat Shout-outs

• Duration: [72:04]–[74:27]
  • Show closes with shout-outs to supporters, light digs at former employers and social media blocks, and promises of more content.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ebro: “I implore all of you…take a deep breath, stay on your square, think about the bigger picture. …Find joy while we do the work on the other side, which is to get these people out of office to vote.” [10:09–10:16]

• Rosenberg: “If you actually could watch the words being said last night and…think, ‘This is my America, I’m so happy to be here.’ If you mean that in your soul, you are a moron.” [21:32]

• Laura: “The way they play with Black people. …They want to keep us angry, but continue to. …When Al Green has to show up with a sign because, look, he’s like, yo, somebody gotta do something.” [07:45]

• Ebro: “No one responsible has ever been in charge. …Which is how you allow your 13, 14, 15-year-old to end up…being sexualized at a young age for money." (on Britney Spears) [49:38]

• Rosenberg: "If that's what you want your legacy to be is, like, bully who at the end hashtags his liquor company. If that's, like, what you really want...I just think he's kind of better than that, or I want him to be better than that." [44:28]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• State of the Union Instant Reactions: [00:36]–[21:43]
• Al Green Protest + Hunter College Racism: [05:04]–[10:16]
• Border Patrol / Epstein Report: [11:27]–[14:43]
• Tariffs / Economy Explained: [22:23]–[27:33]
• Kamala, Gavin, Dem Election Dynamics: [27:33]–[34:38]
• Jay-Z Anniversary Concert Rumors: [35:41]–[39:15]
• 50 Cent vs. T.I., Tina Knowles Discussion: [40:31]–[45:27]
• Britney Spears, Pop Tragedy: [46:17]–[51:39]
• Wu-Tang’s Power Tribute: [51:49]–[53:17]
• Google AI N-word Controversy: [53:18]–[56:12]
• Lil Uzi Vert Anniversary: [57:09]–[62:03]
• Addiction, Listener Letter Advice: [65:31]–[71:55]

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Tone & Style

The hosts remain candid, irreverent, and impassioned, balancing pointed political/cultural critique with moments of humor and reflection. Sensitive societal topics—racism, addiction, exploitation—are handled with seriousness, sometimes anger, but always with a communal sense of support.

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Closing Note

This episode stands as one of the show’s most comprehensive blends of timely political commentary and deep-dive cultural analysis, leaving listeners with both information and a sense of camaraderie for the struggles ahead.

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Transcript

[Ebro Darden]

Just don't call it a podcast. The Ebro Laura Rosenberg show. Oh, let's get to it.

[Laura Styles]

Good morning.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, Technic outside this morning. Laura Styles couldn't get a car. No taxi, no Uber, no. Nothing was coming through for you, huh?

[Laura Styles]

I was stuck. I tried multiple times, guys. You know I love being in the stew, but I could do it.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, look man, we still got a show. We got a program to do. Last night Rosenberg went live on the ELR channel for the state of. What were you calling your thing? You had a graphic and everything.

[Rosenberg]

Live reaction.

[Ebro Darden]

Live reaction with Rosenberg.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, we. We lasted about 30 minutes to 40 minutes.

[Ebro Darden]

Not the full 90 minute. Was it 90 or more.

[Rosenberg]

What end up at.

[Ebro Darden]

Can we get the official. I heard it was 90 something minutes.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. State of the Union.

[Laura Styles]

No, it was like an hour 48.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Almost two hours.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

So that's more than 90 minutes.

[Rosenberg]

That is more than 90 minutes there. That's. That's it now. It was terrible. It was terrible. And you know, Devlin jumped on

[Ebro Darden]

Yalls

[Rosenberg]

favorite new character and he was like. And he was actually like, I'm mad because I talked to him about how to make this good and this is boring.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh man. Because he wasn't even. Devlin hit Trump with the Congratulations.

[Rosenberg]

He didn't even have like.

[Ebro Darden]

That's the thing.

[Rosenberg]

His stand up has fallen off.

[Ebro Darden]

He's not. It's not tight.

[Rosenberg]

It's not a tight hour anymore. He's doing a loose two hours and it just wasn't good.

[Ebro Darden]

That's when you know. That's when you know it's over.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, man. So we had a good time. Shout out to the El army that hung out with me. We had a good time chatting, but it was ridiculous.

[Ebro Darden]

Can somebody make sure we have Joy Ann Reed at her pre State of the Union with the Trump supporter running down on. I want to see if we can find that video.

[Rosenberg]

Also, we need to talk about the. How bad the hockey team played themselves.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh man. Talk to me.

[Rosenberg]

They.

[Laura Styles]

What happened?

[Ebro Darden]

You played yourself.

[Rosenberg]

They just really. They really. You could play a game of like, you know, hey, they didn't really know what was going on. They had just won and the President called and I was. I wanted to play that game.

[Ebro Darden]

You did play that? No, no, I did.

[Rosenberg]

You did play fun, naive game to play.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

They don't necessarily know but when eight of them. It ended up being eight. When eight of them show up to the State of the Union and the way that they did, it was like a wrestling situation where he like cued Them he started going off on the most insane rant of the whole thing. He gets to this insane part where he starts going, we've been winning so much. People are saying, Mr. President, I can't take the winning.

[Ebro Darden]

I can't take the winning.

[Rosenberg]

No, it's the most insane. Like, cuz even for Trump, you're going, but my man, this is the State of the Union. And you're doing this. This isn't even. You're speaking in Iowa. This is the actual. And he' doing this full like crazy

[Ebro Darden]

voice in Congress in.

[Rosenberg]

He's doing the whole thing.

[Ebro Darden]

Do you think people actually understand that, like, the President of the United States doesn't visit this chamber, like it's not a thing. And so the executive branch goes to the legislative branch. And literally the President talks to them and the country. Because Congress represents the country. Right? The House and the Senate represent the country. They. They're talking to them as he's talking to the people giving them the state, like, of the. What is going on business wise and the union.

[Rosenberg]

They're referring to the United States.

[Ebro Darden]

It's the state of the unified states.

[Rosenberg]

How is it all going?

[Ebro Darden]

That's right. Can you move your water bottle?

[Rosenberg]

Sorry.

[Ebro Darden]

So I mean like literally get it out.

[Rosenberg]

Okay. Over here.

[Ebro Darden]

Get this table right here.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Laura Styles]

Want me to take care, guys.

[Rosenberg]

You don't sponsor.

[Ebro Darden]

Kirkland's not.

[Rosenberg]

Kirkland ain't paying up here.

[Ebro Darden]

Costco's not paying.

[Rosenberg]

So. So after he did the whole. The whole setup of I'm winning, the entire winning. And speaking of winning. And they had the team waiting to come out wearing the matching sweaters and they get. They come out to people. Yo, is there a worst more l chant in the world than usa?

[Ebro Darden]

You played yourself.

[Rosenberg]

I can't not chance. Always whack. You want a good three letter chant, give me ecw. That's a chant. You know what I'm saying?

[Ebro Darden]

Ecw. Ecw that you're out on usa.

[Rosenberg]

Usa. I've never been in. Even during the best of times when I'm proud of the country, I'm out. Really. It's just corny. USA is just a corny chant.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, man.

[Rosenberg]

In the State of the Union's even worse though. Again.

[Ebro Darden]

Look, y' all know I could give a damn about a USA chant, but I didn't know you.

[Rosenberg]

Have you ever done it?

[Ebro Darden]

I don't think so.

[Rosenberg]

I said yesterday, have I ever done a USA chant? Like, I've never. I've never finished the national anthem at a WWE show or game and been like usa. Yeah. I don't think I've ever been in that zone.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, you're. You're unpatriotic. No, I'm proud I hit you with.

[Rosenberg]

Wait. I'm proud to be an American song. Anyways, it was embarrassing.

[Ebro Darden]

Laura, did you watch any of the State of the Union?

[Laura Styles]

No, bro, I didn't watch any of it. I just saw the highlights. I saw Elhan Omar.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

Clapping back. You know, I saw that. I saw Representative Al Green getting escorted out because of the sign.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, listen, Representative Al Green. I. Listen. You are. You are, sir, an elder and a legend, and you've done tons of work.

[Rosenberg]

I'm still in love with you. Love and happiness.

[Ebro Darden]

No, old time love. Different Al Green.

[Rosenberg]

Got it.

[Ebro Darden]

Different Al Green.

[Rosenberg]

All right.

[Ebro Darden]

What are you pointing to?

[Rosenberg]

They have a. They have video or picture?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, yeah, video. Let's see the Al Green. See, This is him being escorted out, right? That was his protest. And somebody said, we'll never go back to where we were just a very short time ago. We're not going back today. Our border is secure. The conservatives are chanting usa. As a black man is escorted out with his. With his sign that was basically like black. What did the sign say? Black. We are not apes.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, Black people are not apes, I believe, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

I can't tell you how much it angers me. Maybe I'm triggered from the past, but the idea that black people are showing up to a room full of white people and holding up signs to proclaim that we're not animals is. Is angering at levels. I don't even know if I have the vocab. Think about that. You have to show up. You still have to show up to a room with a sign that says we're not animals. It Think about that, bro. Like, it's insane. First of all, you feel the need to do it. Second of all, there was a narrative running around about black people being animals that the president posted a meme of, like, the fact that that still happened. It takes me to yesterday when I was talking about the Tourette man and BBC not editing out the N word.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

Fast forward. We have this woman at Hunter College here in New York City on a call with a little eighth grade girl, and she's calling black people stupid on the call. We have that video. You doing it now, bro?

[Laura Styles]

That. That video.

[Ebro Darden]

No, but I got to bundle all this in a place because the amount of time I hear about anti Semitism and what needs to happen because of anti Semit. Anti Semitism, this and blah blah, Blah. Yes, that's a fact. Something needs to happen. But, bro, the way they play with black people.

[Rosenberg]

Crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's bananas. They want to keep us angry, but continue to. And so when Al Green has to show up with a sign because, look, he's like, yo, somebody gotta do something. Gotta say something. I wish the sign said F y'.

[Rosenberg]

All.

[Laura Styles]

I know. And to see them try to rip the sign from him, that angered me, too.

[Ebro Darden]

Let me see. Let me hear this Allison Freeman lady again.

[Guest/Caller]

Did you guys hear what this professor

[Laura Styles]

said during an online meeting where an

[Guest/Caller]

8th grader was talking about the possibility of a school closing by the Department of Education?

[Ebro Darden]

Let me play the clip for y'.

[Rosenberg]

All.

[Laura Styles]

Friday, he delivers lessons and helps us fit those skills into our lessons that, like, they.

[Ebro Darden]

They're just. They're too dumb to know they're in a bad school.

[Laura Styles]

I mean, apparently King said it like, if you've trained a black person well

[Guest/Caller]

enough, they'll know to use the back.

[Rosenberg]

You don't have to tell them anymore. What you're saying is absolutely hearable here.

[Ebro Darden]

You've gotta stop.

[Laura Styles]

Now, she claimed she was trying to

[Guest/Caller]

teach someone about what is systemic racism. But the fact that she said that

[Laura Styles]

they were too dumb to know that

[Guest/Caller]

they were in a bad school and she used the word black, I don't know. These folks are unraveling, y', all, and

[Ebro Darden]

they're trying to get us to unravel with them. Yo, listen for the Alison Friedman lady. Congratulations.

[Laura Styles]

Disgusting.

[Ebro Darden]

They. They claim they're doing an investigation on her. Her being remaining a professor at Hunter College. I'm sure there's people watching right now. They went to Hunter College?

[Rosenberg]

Sure.

[Ebro Darden]

Very popular place for higher education.

[Rosenberg]

So isn't the simple investigation.

[Ebro Darden]

We heard you.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. And what were you. So sorry. What were you trying to say now? And then she goes, oh, my God. No, it's not that. I was explaining to the person next to me.

[Ebro Darden]

I was reading from an article.

[Rosenberg]

What is it gonna be? What is the.

[Ebro Darden]

That might be what her claim might be that I. She was quoting something that had that quote in it.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Sounded like it was hers, but unfortunately. Ma', am, congratulations.

[Rosenberg]

Why are you doing that on the call, though? But whatever.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, and. And maybe. Well, she didn't have her mute on. And to your point, why are you doing that while a black student is talking? Because now it sounds like you're referencing this black student calling her stupid.

[Rosenberg]

That's what it sounds like. That's what it feels like.

[Ebro Darden]

But now you add all of these things up in the course of two days.

[Rosenberg]

Just a regular two days.

[Ebro Darden]

Just a regular two days. If you're a black person, how are you feeling right now? You feel like people are playing with you, like they trying to get you out of pocket. So the next thing that comes along, somebody at your job says some slick. You think you still got some patience left for that? I just. I implore all of you out there, if you're like me and you're triggered by these things, you know, take a deep breath, stay on your square. Think about the bigger picture. We need our jobs. We need to pay our mortgages. We need to make sure our kids are in school. We need to make sure we're not in jail. That's the most productive thing we could contribute to this. And also find joy. The most productive thing you can do when you are faced with this sort of stuff is find joy while we do the work on the other side, which is to get these people out of office to vote. The midterms are on the way. In focus. That's why I couldn't turn into the State of the Union last night. Because you're not Trump. You're not going to get up there and. And talk about how Border Patrol agents are under investigation for helping Epstein. You're not going to do it. We know you're not going to do it. We have the Montmador ig. There's a great follow on Instagram. Have you guys seen this story?

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Guest/Caller]

So the Guardian just released an article that Epstein had a close connection with Border Patrol. At least six different officers had a close relationship with him, including private text messages, emails asking him for financial advice and a loan, flying on his private jet, and even coming to the island. And let's talk about how that connects to the blue butterfly zones that are now in the Dilly Concert. That's exactly what it is. We have reports of child abuse, SA people being denied food and medical care, lights being on all the time, mold and bugs in the food that they do get. They've also been deporting people and losing track of where they are. One woman was pregnant. She's about to give birth any day now. They lost track of her and her two children. They could not find where she was. Thankfully, she has been located. But also they recently had a woman give birth in the hospital and less than a day after giving birth, took her and the newborn back to the Dilly center, which has an active measles outbreak. And I don't have to tell you how dangerous that can be for a newborn now, with the Border patrol officers, there were at least six of them. Only one was ever investigated. Some were never looked into at all, even though the relationship with Epstein was established. In fact, one of them, an officer Rouch, a woman who dated routes, reported to the FBI that he actively participated in helping Epstein with his trafficking in and out of the island. In fact, Epstein would put plan his trips around when certain officers were going to be working border Patrol. And if any officer gave him a hard time, he would report it to his friends, who would then reprimand or supervise any officer that gave Epstein a hard time.

[Ebro Darden]

So you're not going to cover that at the State of the.

[Rosenberg]

I don't think.

[Ebro Darden]

They're not going to get into that.

[Rosenberg]

Never brought that up.

[Ebro Darden]

Never brought that up. And if you're paying attention to this Dilly center they had, like the woman Montemada just said there, this Dilly center is obviously where they're keeping people who have been apprehended by ICE and they are keeping teen girls separate from the rest of the population. Really. And nobody can monitor what's happening with them.

[Laura Styles]

No. Nobody can walk in to see any of these circumstances. I mean, you've seen officials try to go in there and just take a look. Just take a look. And they're not allowed to. This is sick, what's happening.

[Ebro Darden]

So you're not going to get that at the State of the Union.

[Rosenberg]

You do not.

[Ebro Darden]

You're not going to get that. You're not. You're not going to get the reality that Trump is removing black history, actively removing black museums, black history and things like that from museums. You're not going to get any of that. You're not going to get what else. He's not going to cover what's happening with the health care system. Not going to cover that. He's not going to get into the fact that they're trying to push through a surgeon general right now that is, I believe, a IG wellness influencer. I'm sorry, she never finished medical school. That's happening today. Look it up.

[Rosenberg]

The new surgeon general that they're trying

[Ebro Darden]

to push through, the old surgeon general, the black man that Trump had appointed, he even said that this is an embarrassment. It's a IG Wellness influencer. Yes.

[Rosenberg]

No, they didn't cover that. They didn't. He didn't mention the deaths of Renee Good or Alex Preddy.

[Ebro Darden]

No, not getting into that. And when he did bring up the Somalians and the people in Minnesota that he wanted to disparage because of, quote, unquote fraud. He definitely didn't bring up that it was actually a white woman who was the ringleader of the whole thing.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, he didn't.

[Laura Styles]

I did see. I did see him bring out a. I think it was a Venezuelan like woman and man who were like reunited for the first time. And of course, of course. And then Latino maggots are just going to eat it up. You see, this is what freedom looks like. Continue to dangle that carrot in front of their faces.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Laura Styles]

It's disgusting.

[Rosenberg]

To Ebro's point, people are stupid because there are a lot of times. Last night, you know, they showed the 100 year old veteran and they showed the little girl who was rescued by the. They're going to show you people that if you have a heart, you go, okay. You know, that someone is worth clapping for. That's right. That's. That's literally the most basic trick in the book. I can't believe people see that and go, wow. Well, maybe Trump isn't so bad. But no, they didn't cover any of the things you're talking about you, bro. It was not worth your time. Listen, you made the right choice.

[Ebro Darden]

I didn't.

[Rosenberg]

What'd you do last night?

[Ebro Darden]

I did Selassie and I watched Moana too. Done for the 40th time. Dinner together. W. Played her drums. She got a new keyboard for her birthday. Somebody got her keyboard. I don't know who did it. So that it has little beats on it. Wow. Did that Jazz and I had dinner together while grandma was playing with Selassie down in the place.

[Rosenberg]

Sounds great.

[Ebro Darden]

So we have little quiet, you know, 20 minutes.

[Rosenberg]

Look at you.

[Ebro Darden]

Just to. How was your day in it?

[Rosenberg]

Wow, this sounds like a much better choice.

[Ebro Darden]

Checked in with Issa and her mom. They finally made it back home because of snowstorms. Cuz they had. Weren't able to get home. Issa was not. Issa's not feeling well, so she. You know, I maybe caught a bug or something. So. Yeah, well, I'm probably going to Florida. They had a. We talked about our football game. It was like a.

[Rosenberg]

It was Orlando, right?

[Ebro Darden]

It was Orlando. So it got cold, then it got warm.

[Rosenberg]

But I know these flights to Orlando. When I take these flights to Orlando, which is pretty regular. I'm ducking, I'm running and ducking.

[Ebro Darden]

What's going on?

[Rosenberg]

Disney flights. So it's mad families. These planes are just filled with families and kids and Disney and swimming and water parks and kids. And you just gotta. You gotta stay low and Keep firing on these trips to Orlando. Also, real quick, let's start things off by. Hit me with the button.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay. I like it. Congratulations. You played yourself.

[Rosenberg]

Yes. Night. Finally got out there. Did. Did the work. Brought a couple shovels.

[Ebro Darden]

Nice.

[Rosenberg]

Got the car. Because I gotta drive to Connecticut, so I gotta be prepared to go to Bristol, Connecticut. So I got the shovels out. Did a pretty good job. That snow is heavy.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Like a foot and a half of that snow on your car. You're lifting real. It's.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And then I woke up this morning.

[Ebro Darden]

They tell people who aren't normally active to, like, make sure they don't go into cardiac arrest.

[Rosenberg]

I should be in that category right now. I was fine physically, but then I walked out and just saw this this morning.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, yeah. Fresh. A fresh little coat of snow.

[Rosenberg]

Fresh coat of snow. After the work on the snow was a crazy feel. Yo, tell me a year. This is for our New York area. Fox and east coast fought. Tell me another year where, like, snow is just this regular. Just part of every other day. Like, it's like we live in Minneapolis or I don't know where places are.

[Ebro Darden]

Go Buffalo or Buffalo. Buffalo gets it way worse than this.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, there's regular. Right. But this is like today's snow on a regular year would be something that we talked about.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

This wasn't even nice, by the way.

[Ebro Darden]

It's gone already.

[Rosenberg]

It's already.

[Ebro Darden]

It's a smooth through that fast.

[Rosenberg]

All right, good.

[Ebro Darden]

And it's supposed to have sun later.

[Rosenberg]

It's. I saw like 45 and sunny this after. We get some melting to this.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. So anyways, and the weekend's supposed to be sunny, so you have plenty of time to. To shovel. Hopefully some things melt, you know, I mean, and the slush is easy to kind of take. You know, what's always good is one of those. Those brooms. Having one of those big brooms. You know, the, the long brooms that we used to. That the janitor used to use at your high school.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I used the broom is what I use the most.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. That turned the car on.

[Rosenberg]

I let it rock for, like, 15 minutes.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Which actually made a difference.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Then use the broom. And I started being able to push off big, big chunks of it.

[Ebro Darden]

The broom is the way to go, fam. That's how you do it.

[Rosenberg]

So. Yeah, man. You made a good choice is what it comes down to.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I, I, I, I decided to stay away from it, guys, because I just didn't. What are we looking for? When you see A State of the Union. You're looking for something uplifting, maybe some real talk about where we are, what we need to focus on, what we're gonna focus on in the next year. That's why I usually look for priorities of the government, and I'm sure you got priorities of the government, but it sounded like you didn't lose.

[Rosenberg]

Shaking his head, no, not a lot. It was mostly just how many times can I repeat the same thing? The border. He must have repeated that the border is safer than it's ever been.

[Ebro Darden]

Anybody play the bingo? I posted the bingo card.

[Rosenberg]

We talked about the bingo.

[Laura Styles]

Bingo was great. You played how much of it was. No, I didn't play, but I saw a couple of them. I was like, yep, this happened. This happened.

[Rosenberg]

A few happened. I don't think it was all of them. Some of them were dated.

[Ebro Darden]

I just want to know how. How quick you got bingo.

[Rosenberg]

Right, Right. I don't know how long quick the bingo would come, but.

[Ebro Darden]

Cause don't play a drinking game. You got a hangover today?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

No, you don't know you're done. So today. So that's the State of the Union.

[Rosenberg]

Shout out to me J. By the way, me J9028 came through with a big 50 spot in the super chat.

[Ebro Darden]

Hey, man, thanks for the love. Anybody in the chat see anything interesting in the State of the Union? You think we're. We're glossing over? It says here about an hour into a speech, Trump issued a calculated challenge to the legislators in attendance. Stand up, you, if you agree that the first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens. Did you see anybody see this portion?

[Rosenberg]

I imagine this is when Ilhan wouldn't stand and AOC wouldn't stand. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

It says, Senate Democrats have obviously refused to funding president's immigration crackdown unless major reforms are put in place. So Democrats sat motionless. Republicans, in contrast, stood in mass and cheered for more than a minute. Trump obviously called the Democrats crazy. Boy, oh boy, we're lucky to have a country with people like this. Democrats are destroying our country.

[Rosenberg]

Real quick, what was the actual quote he said again? Stand up.

[Ebro Darden]

If what the first duty of the American government is to protect American citizens, not illegal aliens.

[Rosenberg]

It's not. Not standing for that. That is not the first duty. That's not the first duty. Is the first duty has to do about. With illegal aliens. I don't think that's the first duty. No, I don't. Sorry.

[Ebro Darden]

I thought the first duty was to protect the Constitution.

[Rosenberg]

That how About. How about destroy the Constitution?

[Ebro Darden]

No, that's their first duty. Oh, I thought it was yo.

[Rosenberg]

It used to be yo. People who really listen. I get it. Just to everyone out there doing the dance, we get it. We understand you're doing the dance. We understand you got to do this. You show up to your job and you're like, oh, me and my guys, they all love Trump. So I just kind of stay quiet. And they love Trump.

[Ebro Darden]

Laura, hit your dance on them. Yeah, you gotta.

[Rosenberg]

You hit the finger bang. It is what it is. We get it. You're doing this. If you actually could watch the words being said last night and the way that man was talking and you could actually be proud of that and think, this is my America. I'm so happy to be here. Like, not, not, not. You're faking it for the dance. If you mean that in your soul, you are a moron, a blithering idiot. You cannot think that someone who handles themselves that way, you cannot believe that that is a smart good. You would never teach your children to handle themselves the way this guy does.

[Ebro Darden]

So now Trump ran on affordability and I'm asked people in the chat, I saw this moving around on social media. Do you feel like things are more affordable for you now?

[Laura Styles]

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[Guest/Caller]

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[Laura Styles]

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[Rosenberg]

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[Guest/Caller]

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[Ebro Darden]

or headed in a good direction. Real question. According to independent estimates, Trump's tariffs have cost US households anywhere from $1600 to $2600 per year in the form of higher prices. Now, mind you, the US Supreme Court has truck struck down Trump sweeping Global tariffs, which he had words for them last night, according to this. He called them an embarrassment, a disgrace to our nation. They should absolutely be ashamed. Calling his tariffs illegal. And he pledged to continue his tariffs using other means to do so.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, listen, he has the court 6:3 and the court went 6:3 against his tariffs. So he's, he's, he's boo boo faced. He's butt hurt.

[Ebro Darden]

Quote, tariffs will remain in place under alternative legal statutes.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

So they're going to a solution that will be even stronger than before.

[Rosenberg]

So then why are you bitching?

[Laura Styles]

Do not care about the law. They don't care.

[Ebro Darden]

90% of economic costs associated with the tariffs have fallen on US businesses and their customers. He yo. He's yo. If you choose not to believe what many outlets are saying about the tariffs, that's on you. But I got to tell you, you are being played.

[Laura Styles]

Played.

[Ebro Darden]

Played. If you support the tariffs. No, no. You're being a different type.

[Rosenberg]

It's so crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

There's nobody in business that. There's nobody in business that agrees that the other countries are paying for the tariffs and the money being collected is coming from other countries. Like you are being played. Other countries are telling you that they're not paying the terror.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, we're paying.

[Ebro Darden]

And then they claim they're taking tariff money and doing things. That's your money.

[Rosenberg]

This is your money.

[Ebro Darden]

Just taking more money from you. And then many people vote Republican because they don't want new taxes. So instead of adding new taxes in, they put tariffs on and still milked money from you. What you got? You got a clip? Let me see.

[Guest/Caller]

I'm a coffee shop owner, and I usually pay $20 to import a bag of coffee beans, and now I have to pay 25 because of the tariffs.

[Ebro Darden]

And I'm the government. I'm taking the money even though the Supreme Court hasn't decided if it's legal for. For me to do so.

[Rosenberg]

But here's your receipt.

[Guest/Caller]

Now, I have this receipt that could be worth $5 if the Supreme Court rules the tariffs illegal. Or it could be worth $0 if it is ruled legal. But no one knows how the Supreme Court is going to rule.

[Rosenberg]

I'm Howard Lutnick, Epstein's good buddy and the current Secretary of Commerce, and I'm here to take advantage of this business owner because I know something. For this business owner, $2 of real cash right now for the receipt of her tariff money.

[Guest/Caller]

I don't know if this receipt is ever going to be worth anything. And in this economy, I have to take what I can get for my business to survive. So I'm going to accept the offer.

[Rosenberg]

It just so happened the Supreme Court ruled that the tariffs were illegal. So now I get to exchange this receipt for the $5 that she paid.

[Ebro Darden]

So Lutnick gets to collect double.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know if I needed the high school. The High School musical

[Ebro Darden]

cafe version. Some people might need that explanation.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, listen, it's. It's useful information. The production value left something to be desired. But, yeah, it's not. It's not a great situation. This is. We are getting ripped off every which way. And you're right, it's funny. They play with the words tariffs and taxes because, you know, Republicans hate taxes.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

They love tariffs, but the tariffs are making us spend more money.

[Ebro Darden]

But they've already. They've already created a narrative that taxes are bad.

[Rosenberg]

The truth is, though, I'm curious to see what polls come out in the next few days. As much posturing as he did last night, the only people who I think are still jumping up and down for him are like hardcore MAGA at this point. You know what I'm saying? I think they are still going to be in trouble. Not again. I'm not of the mindset of don't worry, we'll win the midterms, that everything will go back to normal. I don't know if we ever have a real election again. I'm not sure.

[Ebro Darden]

Where's the. Where's the Kamala clip? You got that handy?

[Rosenberg]

I haven't seen this yet.

[Ebro Darden]

You haven't?

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Ebro Darden]

Rahsaan, throw it in there.

[Rosenberg]

I just saw Rahsaan throw it in.

[Ebro Darden]

What was his quote? Who.

[Rosenberg]

Who's going to tell her?

[Ebro Darden]

And I was like, who's going to tell her what?

[Rosenberg]

Well, I don't know what she said, so I don't know who's going to tell Kamala what? Because I don't know what Kamala said.

[Guest/Caller]

Will you run again? I haven't decided. You're still thinking about it.

[Laura Styles]

I might, yeah.

[Guest/Caller]

That's what I've been saying. That's what I. I closed the book. And I'm like, oh, she wants to. She's just thinking about it. About it. If that was my impression. I don't know if that's what you intended, but that was my impression.

[Laura Styles]

No, the book is about a specific period in time.

[Guest/Caller]

There was no agenda beyond what we've discussed already, which is just sharing with

[Laura Styles]

people, you know, the reality of the experience.

[Rosenberg]

And so his. Who's gonna tell her. Is who's gonna tell her? Nobody wants you run again.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm assuming that's what it was.

[Rosenberg]

That's what it was.

[Ebro Darden]

Basnum.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, listen. I have nothing but positive feelings towards Kamala. No diss whatsoever. I do not think in. Listen. We say every election is the most important election of all time. If we are able to have a free election next time, I think we would all agree this is a pretty important. Would be an important one. Is she the person who's going to galvanize people? That's the question. Would people get excited about Kamala Harris? Considering everyone said after that last election I didn't feel very excited about my options.

[Ebro Darden]

Everyone say that.

[Rosenberg]

A lot of people seem to feel.

[Ebro Darden]

Too many. I'll go with too many.

[Rosenberg]

Too many.

[Ebro Darden]

More than you. In my world, a lot of people were excited.

[Rosenberg]

No, early. But by the way, in my world early on the excitement on the Internet was on fire.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm saying in my immediate household, like in my immediate friend, it was exciting. So I can't really just listen to people on. In comment sections.

[Rosenberg]

True. In my immediate world it was. People were excited. But I will say as it went on and we got closer, even though I didn't like that, people kept saying what does she stand for? I thought that was sort of unfair. I'm like what does Trump stand for? I thought she was good. I didn't think she had. She doesn't have epic charisma. Right.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

And the truth of the matter is we are up against a guy who is the one of the worst human beings to ever watch. But he is a cult leader who has a magnetic personality to the kind of people who like him.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

Kamala seems like a really billionaires tech

[Ebro Darden]

bros. Well who can manipulate the narrative and work the social media funding.

[Rosenberg]

But those, those tech bros are interesting. Right? Because the rich tech bros are going to be for anyone who gets up there and says they're better for the money and they're going to cut and they're going to roll back.

[Ebro Darden]

Maybe.

[Rosenberg]

Maybe.

[Ebro Darden]

I think Elon. Elon. From what I'm learning about Elon and the Peter Thiel's, they have a more serious agenda than just making money.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, you mean the deeper dark state. Like we're going to take over the

[Ebro Darden]

whole world and they want a technocracy and they want like, you know, and they actually believe in white supremacy, bro. These are people who are from South Africa and they. They're on that type of time. My guy.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, I agree. I Also feel like they know that money can make them do whatever they want. So they're like, oh, we have the money to make them say yes to this, this, this and this. They're easy to manipulate because they have money. So that's one of the reasons I truly believe that they love this administration because they can buy whatever they want.

[Rosenberg]

That's a good point. And know that they're dumb.

[Ebro Darden]

Everything's for sale right now. Yeah, well, they dumb or don't care. Like, yeah. Or both. However you want to pick.

[Rosenberg]

Whatever combo.

[Ebro Darden]

So I look, my thing with Kamala and, and this is. I'll say this. Anybody watch now, if you think the left is going to push forward a mom, Donnie, like character. Congratulations.

[Rosenberg]

Well, AOC would be the one. If there were one. If you were to believe that they were going to push one forward, it would be AOC I would think she has a national. A true national president.

[Ebro Darden]

I believe the Democratic establishment is more interested in attracting moderate Republicans than they are attracting more young and leftist leaning people.

[Rosenberg]

Well, hit the button.

[Laura Styles]

I agree.

[Ebro Darden]

Which one?

[Rosenberg]

Congratulations.

[Ebro Darden]

You played yourself. Congratulations. You played.

[Rosenberg]

Because that's not going to win you the election.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and I think that's people's biggest problem.

[Rosenberg]

The playing safe right now is not the play to win.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I hope hopefully somebody's listening.

[Rosenberg]

It was in 2020. It was in 2020.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, look, I don't have any bad feelings about Kamala. If Kamala ran again, I'm voting for Kamala. Like.

[Rosenberg]

Well, no, no, I'm talking about that.

[Laura Styles]

Do you think Gavin. Do you think Gavin is going to run?

[Ebro Darden]

I think Gavin wants to run. I mean, that's what he's doing all this work for. I don't think he's doing all of this. Why is he doing interviews in Atlanta, Georgia, if he's not thinking about running?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I think this is running. I think this is early running.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. Like, and. And Gavin, by the way, is a moderate Democrat.

[Rosenberg]

He's. He. Him and Kamala are not dissimilar.

[Ebro Darden]

They're the same.

[Rosenberg]

They're kind of the same things. You really like a little wishy washy on some stuff. Attractive, you know, good people to present. Will they get. Will they galvanize people in a real way?

[Ebro Darden]

Gavin's not going to get out there and go against our alliance with Israel, by the way. So if you're expecting that, congratulations. You played yourself.

[Laura Styles]

I don't think neither is Kamala.

[Ebro Darden]

No. 1000%. She didn't. She didn't last time. I didn't know if I needed to re.

[Rosenberg]

Establish. Yeah. That she was, she was lined up.

[Ebro Darden]

I think her husband is, Is. Is Jewish. Right?

[Rosenberg]

Her husband is Jewish. And her husband's like.

[Ebro Darden]

Again, that doesn't mean he's not a Zionist. I don't know. I don't. But I don't know, you know, but I don't.

[Rosenberg]

I don't think he's. I don't think he's terrible. I don't think he's great. I think he's just kind of. Whatever.

[Ebro Darden]

Look, America completely turning its back on its alliance with Israel. Guys, I don't see it happening because I'm gonna say it again and we need, and maybe we need to keep repeating this. America is not aligned with Israel because they just like Israel. It's not about that. They use that to get us all duckies and bunnies or at least try. That's not what it's about. It's a. It's a literal geographic location in a very important place to control the economy as much as they can of oil.

[Rosenberg]

It's not the same as our aligning with like countries in the EU where it's like, no, they're allies, they make sense. We're like minded. That's it.

[Ebro Darden]

And that's tied to a history.

[Rosenberg]

The Israel thing is much. It's obviously deeper. And I'm not. I don't think either of us are claiming we even understand the fullness, the full depth of what that is. Yes, I think it's geopolitical.

[Ebro Darden]

I think it's about money.

[Rosenberg]

First money, oil money, stall money, and then other weird stuff. I don't know. It's weird though.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, now we're learning Epstein stuff. So clearly it was something we understand.

[Rosenberg]

There's the. Don't forget, there's the extreme Christian right. Christ is coming back.

[Ebro Darden]

More money. But that's more money.

[Rosenberg]

But that's also money from the evangelical.

[Ebro Darden]

Remember, the Saudis and Iran don't rock. That's not. They're not on the same type of time. They're not aligned.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

Saudis in Iran don't like each other and we're aligned with the Saudis.

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

We chose that a long time ago.

[Rosenberg]

Which is why we're ready to go to war with Iran. No problem.

[Ebro Darden]

I thought that was because Israel. Because they.

[Rosenberg]

Well, that too. But they won't put down their missiles.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

So you don't put down your weapons. We got to kill you. Only we and them have weapons. You don't have weapons.

[Ebro Darden]

And then Israel can have whatever they want. And nobody can even check on what they're doing. No. And even don't even ask to look.

[Rosenberg]

And even when we told them what to do, they say, go F yourself. We're doing what we want. Anyway, we were. All right. Good thought. Good thought.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I mean, if y', all, if you didn't have politicians in there with the Epstein, you know what I mean, dancing around with little girls in your draws, maybe they wouldn't have been able to hold that over your head.

[Rosenberg]

I think there's a lot of things they have. I think they're. I think the Israel having things over us politicians is more than Epstein.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, it goes way before that.

[Rosenberg]

They've, they've had, they've had that on Smash way before that. Yeah, Their, their, their technology and ability to get information on people is different level.

[Ebro Darden]

Laura, you ready for the rundown?

[Laura Styles]

Let's do it.

[Ebro Darden]

Laura got the rundown.

[Rosenberg]

Turn that up.

[Ebro Darden]

Screens on Glow when she pulls up headlines heavy, but we still caught up. Life still flashing.

[Rosenberg]

We don't slow.

[Laura Styles]

All right, we talked about this before, but. And I said it. The big rumor right now is that Jay Z is probably gonna have a reasonable doubt 30th anniversary concert in New York. So we talked about him dropping that website, jay z,30.com. All right? And there's a suspicious two week booking gap at the Barclays center from June 19th to July 30th. So people were like, none of it is confirmed, you know, but.

[Ebro Darden]

So this is all based on the fact that someone we don't know who has blocked out two weeks of time at the Barclays Center. And you're positive it's not. What's the, what's the billboards I always

[Rosenberg]

see Shen Yoon's up on Shenyun has a location.

[Ebro Darden]

They do. Oh, a permanent location. Yeah, we're positive it's not. What's the other one?

[Rosenberg]

Always Harry Styles.

[Ebro Darden]

Harry Styles. Because he's doing, I think the Gardens that he's doing.

[Rosenberg]

You know how many shows he's doing?

[Laura Styles]

I don't how many.

[Ebro Darden]

Something like the whole month or something.

[Rosenberg]

Right. I think he's doing residency. No, but it's, it's how many. It's 30. I think he's doing 30.

[Ebro Darden]

So he's doing. So are people. Look, I, I'm all for it. I like artists doing what Bad Bunny just did or what some artists were doing in Vegas where it was like, hey, you want to come see me? Come to this town. Cool. I mean, make it a, make it a vacation. Yeah, I'm, I'M for it.

[Rosenberg]

No, it's cool. I just. The Harry Styles thing always baffles me. I don't know how it happened so fast and got so big, but Jay Z in at Barclays for a couple weeks. We talked about this yesterday. The timeliness is crazy.

[Laura Styles]

Yes, that's what I'm saying. So look, it's. Nothing is confirmed, guys, but I am excited about it because I would love a surprise show.

[Ebro Darden]

But now, remember when The Barclays Open HOV did eight, nine, ten shows.

[Rosenberg]

Two weeks. I think it was two weeks.

[Ebro Darden]

And we. When we were at the. Hot 97, we were broadcasting live over there. Me, Angie, we did a whole thing from over there.

[Rosenberg]

I think you made that up.

[Ebro Darden]

No, we was over there. I don't think you were.

[Rosenberg]

No. You weren't on the air, though.

[Ebro Darden]

I wasn't on the air.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, you mean Angie was on the air? Yeah, yeah. I mean, you were with Angie.

[Ebro Darden]

I was just. No, I was, like, working.

[Rosenberg]

Right, you were just doing your job.

[Ebro Darden]

Just doing my job.

[Rosenberg]

Do a morning show thing there. But we did. We were all.

[Ebro Darden]

Because none would be there at 6am

[Rosenberg]

I feel left out. Me and Sife, though. I think we did play a set, though, before he came out one night.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, see, we did.

[Rosenberg]

We did a bunch of stuff there. That was. I went to a few of them. They were great.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Listen, even though I love the Barkley center and I support them as a place and I want them to do as much as they can, I wish he also hit msg. Like, not just two weeks in Brooklyn.

[Ebro Darden]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

Sheerly selfish reasons. Because I'd be able to hit more shows easier if you're in the city to go hit msg.

[Ebro Darden]

I got it.

[Rosenberg]

For yourself? Just for myself.

[Ebro Darden]

Listen, hov, when you're booking shows, think about Rosenberg.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, listen, MSG's a convenient spot, Laura. It's a very. It's convenient. I mean, Barclays center convenient, too.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, you could catch. How many trains you got to get from your career?

[Rosenberg]

No one.

[Ebro Darden]

There you go.

[Rosenberg]

You just sit for a long time, but you get there. You eventually get there. No, it's great. I think that is what's happening. By the way, they said they're selling the vinyl for Dead Presidents. They're making a whole. Could do if you will.

[Ebro Darden]

So maybe it's. But now maybe it is some shows, but maybe it's also like an installation, like what they did at the Brooklyn Library.

[Laura Styles]

Could be. But I don't see not one show. Ebro.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, no, no.

[Ebro Darden]

He said some Some shows, I don't, you know, I. I don't know if it's 10, right? Could be.

[Laura Styles]

Okay, I'm with you with that. I'm with you. I'm sure. I'm sure they're going to take over a plaza or an area because they. They can do that and have an amazing installation. So I could see that happening. So.

[Ebro Darden]

But summertime in Brooklyn, you know, what

[Rosenberg]

I'm trying to pinpoint is to be serious, not about my selfishness. I think what to me sounded cool about the prospect of a Radio City or an MSG was just it being different. That's really it. I just feel like the Jay Z Barclays thing for a monster amount of time I've done before, like, I've experienced it. Whereas saying he had a residency somewhere else felt like something exciting.

[Ebro Darden]

That Barclays thing was when?

[Rosenberg]

A long time ago now. 15, 17. Yeah, I think it's 09. It opened something like that. It's a long time ago. 2012.

[Ebro Darden]

Barclays opened 2012, so.

[Rosenberg]

So 14 years. Somewhere around there.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, somewhere.

[Rosenberg]

It's a long time.

[Laura Styles]

But Hobie's coming home.

[Ebro Darden]

Hobie's home. Laura, what else?

[Laura Styles]

All right, so let's please go to the lowdown, because this is.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, man, I can't believe this got nasty.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, man, where's the lowdown? I should probably have closer. Why can't I find it? Oh,

[Laura Styles]

time for the low down

[Ebro Darden]

with Laura style. All right, what you got?

[Laura Styles]

So things are even messier between 50 cent and ti.

[Rosenberg]

Oh.

[Laura Styles]

So it continues, the back and forth, the taking shots, but yesterday everyone was like, 50, you're going too far. Y' all saw when he posted a photo of Ms. Tina Knowles, right? So what happened was, is that Tina posted a reshared, a picture, a video of Tiny and just pretty much uplifting her, you know, calling her beautiful, holding her down. Because as we all know, the Internet does come for Tiny and they. And they do, you know, come for her look. So Tina was just uplifting. It was a beautiful little, like, you know, post about her 50s response was a picture of Ms. Tina Knowles kind of disfigured. It looks like bad plastic surgery was obviously altered. And his caption was, I'm not going to do it. But this is getting weird. Little effed up. Albino kids and grandmothers getting involved.

[Ebro Darden]

Wt, yo, it's out of control. Listen, Laura, do you want the Tiny clip? We have it.

[Laura Styles]

Sure, sure, we can see it. Yeah, That's.

[Ebro Darden]

It said nothing about 50. That's. It says. No, it's real ambiguous. Yeah, just uplift it.

[Rosenberg]

That's it.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

Wait, guys, there's more.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, man.

[Laura Styles]

50 continues. Then he says these rap and you put a little ninja emoji. They're soft. You got to watch out for these killers. They'll get you in the elevator. Lol. And he posts pictures of Solange.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, man.

[Laura Styles]

Like, you know, her face, like. And trying to take her earrings off in another post. Oh, God. And the Beehive was upset. They were coming for him. And even, you know, people in the comments was like, you're going too far. You're going too far. Eventually deleted him.

[Ebro Darden]

So, because I've argued with 50 publicly and privately, I know that he thinks this is funny.

[Rosenberg]

Well, yeah, that's. That's, that's. He thinks everything's funny.

[Ebro Darden]

My. My concern now is people who don't know him like that, and they think he's always trying to be mean.

[Rosenberg]

He is. What do you mean? What you do publicly is what you are.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, no, I guess.

[Rosenberg]

How's he something else?

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, I get. Not. Mean means not the word. Like, he's not just joking around in a bad taste. You know what I'm saying? Like, they think it's real. Like, like he means to someone or something like that. No, he's. What I'm trying to say.

[Rosenberg]

Okay, so he's no he. Yeah, and I hear what you're saying, but while he's not being dead serious, he does cause harm.

[Ebro Darden]

No, you're right. You're right. And. And I. And I guess that's why. Look, 50, you gotta relax, bro. Like, everybody's not all the way. I don't think Tina Knowles even knows what's going on. I don't know that she thinks that her post was somehow going at 50.

[Rosenberg]

But. But, but he just wants to get at HOV. He wants to get at them. That's it. Like, it's ultimately, you know, 50 had a great career and what he does in business is impressive and all that. And I personally enjoy engaging with him. And when you talk to him, I think he can be a super fun guy. I love when he comes up and we chat. I got no personal issues with 50, but what he puts out to the world is not great. He's an a hole. Like, this is nasty. He's being a complete a hole for no reason.

[Laura Styles]

And people celebrate it. They love it.

[Rosenberg]

And they. And like, he's being. He thinks being a public bully is, like, so cool and fun. Like, bro, 50, you're 50. What are you doing. You're not 12, you're 50. Literally, like, this is. It makes no sense to just make this. The energy you put out in the world all the time. Like, if that's what you want your legacy to be is, like, bully who at the end hashtags his liquor company. If that's, like, what you really want to have your thing be. I just think he's kind of better than that, or I want him to be better than that.

[Ebro Darden]

Maybe that's the way I'm thinking is. Because, you know, I guess I know him privately, so you know that he's,

[Rosenberg]

like a smart, thoughtful human being.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, but it doesn't. It doesn't translate on. It doesn't translate, bro. And then with something like this. That's somebody's grandma, bro.

[Laura Styles]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, these are grandmothers, bro. Like, what are we doing?

[Rosenberg]

No, what does Tina Knowles do? Like, Tina Knowles, all she does is publicly, like, love on her kids, like, and her friends and her friends, and she supports stuff, and she's like, I. I don't know what the Tina Knowles beef would be. Unless you're so.

[Ebro Darden]

No, but that's my point. Like, what are you even doing Fifth? Like, why? Why? Why? Why? And then. And then obviously post pictures of him and Tyler Perry to try to just, you know, to act like y'. All. I'm out here moving, promoting his Broadway play with Taraji and. And. And Cedric the Entertainer. You know what I mean? Like, it. It always. But it's just like, come on, man. Come on, bro.

[Laura Styles]

So, yeah, he took us to hell.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, he did.

[Laura Styles]

That definitely would go down.

[Rosenberg]

Hold on to your speakers.

[Ebro Darden]

Hey, guys, we keep going with this Devlin thing. Devil should start his own podcast.

[Laura Styles]

Don't hate on Devlin.

[Ebro Darden]

You guys could have Devlin day once a week. It's its own. You know what I mean? You guys jump on. Like, Rosenberg. Did Devlin live last night for the State of the union.

[Rosenberg]

50 is literally 50.

[Ebro Darden]

He's 50. He turned 50 this year.

[Rosenberg]

He is literally 50 in July. He will be 51 now. He's 50 Cent. For real, man.

[Ebro Darden]

That. That. Listen, bro, when it gets to the grandmothers, I'm turned off, man.

[Rosenberg]

No, it's. It's. There's no need. Like, it's just. I don't. I just don't see where the wins are, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

Speaking of things ending bad, bring up my Britney Spears. Let's do a Britney Spears check in.

[Rosenberg]

Why?

[Ebro Darden]

You see.

[Rosenberg]

But this is. Now you're being 50. Why are you making it sound like you're happy?

[Ebro Darden]

I'm not Happy? It's. This is not a good look. This is terrible.

[Rosenberg]

Okay, I'm just checking. I thought you were going for break.

[Ebro Darden]

I just said things are ending bad.

[Rosenberg]

You said, bring me my Britney Spears. It makes it sound like you want to do a dance with her.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, she's dancing.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, no.

[Ebro Darden]

She's not doing that dance. Here we go.

[Laura Styles]

Different dance.

[Ebro Darden]

What is happening? Rashan's laughing at the middle finger joint.

[Rosenberg]

Billie Eilish probably hyped for a second. She's in a song.

[Laura Styles]

All right, guys.

[Rosenberg]

She joking, though.

[Ebro Darden]

Is she trolling? I don't know. Well, at this point, you would have to assume because she met with the last one. I remember seeing. She had some knives, remember?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, the knife talk. Knife talk was big.

[Ebro Darden]

Are you guys. Now, you guys seem upset by me playing this or something. You guys don't want to cover this or something? No.

[Rosenberg]

What?

[Laura Styles]

No, it's just because we know it's a mess. That's why we. There's nothing positive.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, let me ask y' all something in this serious question. It's not joking. When was it not a mess? Well, because it's been a mess for a good 20. Like the federal line stuff was all a mess, right? The hair shaving, sex tapes. Like, how long has it been a mess? It's been.

[Rosenberg]

It's been a mess for 20 years. But it's just really sad because I saw some clips recently moving around. You've talked about this before, Ebro, But. And so have you, Laura. The amount that she was sexualized as like a 13, 14, 15 year old, the whole world sexualized this girl. Made her this huge star, but in this weird, ogly, creepy way. You know, Justin did not do right by her publicly multiple times. So everyone, they just used her up in a perverted, weird way. And then when they were done with her, she's just been, you know, she left like this. It's just horrible. This is an American story. You want a real American entertainment story? It's what we're seeing with Britney Spears.

[Laura Styles]

And then I feel like two things can be right at the same time. Because, like, she needs help, guys. I feel like she needs help. Like, she's not okay. I truly feel she's not okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Wasn't the. What is it called? Conservatorship?

[Laura Styles]

Yeah, that's what I'm getting to. Ipro. You know what I mean? And I also can see how her parents, who, to Rosenberg's point, have been using her her entire life. Okay. And then do this crazy conservatorship or whatever. And then also abuse the conservatorship.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

And be greedy and take things from her. So all of that could be true. And it's like we were offered the free Britney movement because we're like, how horrible to be under this conservatorship to have no say. And then that's gone. And then we're still concerned about her.

[Rosenberg]

Well, yeah, I've been on that. Like, it seemed like she kind of needed a conservatorship.

[Ebro Darden]

But who's in charge? Well, I think when you see what the way this story is ending, the who's in charge part, no one responsible has ever been in charge.

[Rosenberg]

I guess not.

[Ebro Darden]

Which is how you allow your 13 year old, 14, 15 year old to end up in a predicament where they're being sexualized at a young age for money, even though it was just entertainment and it was music and, you know, all the things. But I know that I wouldn't allow Issa to sell that. No.

[Rosenberg]

Like, hey, the label's into her. She's talented, she can sing a little bit, she can dance. We think there's something here.

[Ebro Darden]

Cool.

[Rosenberg]

What's your plan? Well, we're gonna put her in a Catholic schoolgirl outfit, really short skirt. What? What, what are we doing?

[Laura Styles]

Her midriff all out and two pigtails.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, boy.

[Laura Styles]

It's. It's sad. It is just a montage interview of like all these crazy interviews from like early 2000s Rosenberg, and it's like every single one was just treating her like crap. Like, the way they approached her and the questions. It was just sad to see.

[Rosenberg]

Nah, it's crazy. I saw some. I saw a clip from some Britney doc and it was some guy talking about, like, there's nothing more intriguing to older men than women as they're. Than girls as they're becoming women.

[Ebro Darden]

When you now and now over overlay Epstein.

[Rosenberg]

Well, that's what I was thinking about already, of course. Oh, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

That's how this happens.

[Rosenberg]

And that's how we got here. Yeah, it's sad, man. I just wish someone was avail. I wish she was able to, like, go to a real mental health facility for a long time. She could get better.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and to your point, we're assuming based on these videos that there's a problem, Right. Because that's all we know.

[Rosenberg]

Why would anyone choose to have this be the only thing they're showing the public?

[Ebro Darden]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

That's it. That's all you want the public to get from you?

[Ebro Darden]

But maybe, but maybe that's the significance of the middle finger and the little dance move. Maybe it's all a f you to all of us because of all of the things we're saying. And she realizes that that was her reality. She just sold her publisher for $200 million. And so really, no.

[Rosenberg]

If the joke's on us, the joke

[Ebro Darden]

might be on us.

[Rosenberg]

I. Ebro, I love that version that you. I just made.

[Ebro Darden]

I just made that.

[Rosenberg]

The one you made up about it being. I love that we'd be remiss, Ebro, because we're getting late in the day to not talk about power from Wu Tang.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

When did that come out that he passed?

[Ebro Darden]

Yesterday. I just saw it yesterday. A Method man posted. Then I saw Genius posted. Then I saw Ray posted. I saw RZA post was all yesterday. Did anybody see anything different? Rest in peace, Power, man. It was. Had the pleasure of working with you on many occasions. Working with the Wu Tang. Just a solid person and from, in my experience, a great human being. And I guess you could tell from the outpouring of love and admiration, a lot of people agree.

[Rosenberg]

He. He was what, 53, I believe we don't even.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know what. What. What the cause was of his passing.

[Rosenberg]

I do not. I do not know that. No. He was such a critical part of, you know, the whole thing. Him and RZA were best friends.

[Ebro Darden]

Yep. And Power was the guy behind the scenes, man.

[Rosenberg]

He was. He was the. And if you watch the. If you watch the TV show.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, there you go.

[Rosenberg]

You know, obviously some of it is. Is fictional, but they really focus on Powers, a huge part of the show that he's a big part of how they got there. Piece to power on my whole unit.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I'm saying?

[Rosenberg]

He's the backbone. Like, him and RZA are the backbone. They were the ones that control the WOO logo. You know, that sort of.

[Ebro Darden]

You gotta pay that licensing fee to use the Woo logo.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Maintain the brand and, you know, it was just really, really sad and surprising.

[Ebro Darden]

But yeah. Rest in peace, Power.

[Laura Styles]

Rest in peace.

[Ebro Darden]

Rest in peace. If the. If the BAFTA situation couldn't get more annoying, you know, I started the program talking about people playing with black people constantly. Do you have the cat shout out to Kev on stage? You know, I mean, funny guy on the gram in other places doing. Making his own great content. Do you have that clip? Rahsaan Bascom? Google has apologized after an AI generated news alert about the BAFTA Film Awards included the N word. Would you like to see the news alert that Google's AI Sent out. Of course you would.

[Rosenberg]

Here it is.

[Ebro Darden]

How the Tourette's fallout unfolded at the BAFTA film the Hollywood Reporter.

[Rosenberg]

See more on interested? Not interested.

[Laura Styles]

Oh, my God.

[Ebro Darden]

See more on nakers. During Black History Month, they.

[Rosenberg]

They Google apologized, and they said it

[Ebro Darden]

was an AI it's always an apology, man.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, they're sorry. Sorry, though. Zi.

[Ebro Darden]

Why does your AI know that? The same way the Tourette's guy knows that. Why is that in the programming, man? No, but it's in the program. Like we're talking about something that's in the programming.

[Rosenberg]

The Tourette's guy knowing it makes more sense than the AI no, the AI

[Ebro Darden]

knowing it makes sense, too. They both make sense. Why? They know I know, but because it's in places. Listen, we just. I let it fly here on purpose. Didn't even ask him to edit it so people could feel the impact of that.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, and you felt it. Why. Why isn't there, like, a thing that doesn't let that. Because you imagine the F word wouldn't be used. I have to imagine there's a thing in place?

[Ebro Darden]

No, they're. Rosenberg. The reason it's not in place is because I'm telling y', all, they like doing this to us.

[Rosenberg]

I. I guess you're right.

[Ebro Darden]

They enjoy the backlash. They enjoy the coverage. They enjoy the outrage. It gets clickbait. It gets shared. It gets all that. And somewhere, Somewhere, somebody, somewhere that could have done something is sitting there laughing. Right?

[Rosenberg]

You have to be right. Because. What. Why else. Why else would it be.

[Ebro Darden]

They're laughing. They're laughing in our face.

[Rosenberg]

Isn't it crazy? The N word we know is the worst word in the American. In the American English sort of vocabulary.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

N word's the worst word, and it's not on the list of words you can't say.

[Ebro Darden]

Yep. By the fcc, you're talking.

[Rosenberg]

Yes. So why is that? Why is the F. Why is the S word. The S word is better. It is barely a curse. I don't care if your kids hear it, because guess what? They've heard you say it. The S word is a nothing Burger. It means nothing. Can't say it. If we said that. If I said on the radio today, I'd get in trouble.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, the emerald would get me in trouble, but for different reasons. You are allowed to say it legally. Why is that?

[Ebro Darden]

They.

[Laura Styles]

It's on purpose. You don't remember, when Elon took over X, how the surge in that particular word went up by 500%?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, because they because they did. They were blocking that.

[Ebro Darden]

Exactly.

[Rosenberg]

And then he was like, no, we

[Ebro Darden]

gotta let that fly. We need to speech. Listen, I also, I had a theory. It popped in my head yesterday. Tell me if you agree. Anybody that calls Twitter X, you can't trust them.

[Rosenberg]

I love this theory from you. This is one of your best.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, because now I get. If you're a journalist and you're on television, and that's the name, the professional name, and it's the business name, and that's where you use it. But in regular convo, if somebody calls Twitter X, I don't trust you. Off top, boom.

[Rosenberg]

Don't trust. I love this. I love this. I'm there and I didn't even know I was there, but I am there.

[Ebro Darden]

But you feel me. Like, why are you calling it that?

[Rosenberg]

You playing the Elon Musk game? You know, it's Twitter. Do you say you X or you say you tweeted? It's Twitter.

[Ebro Darden]

Right?

[Rosenberg]

You read a tweet or you read an X post. Nah, you're right.

[Laura Styles]

If I have to open up the site, I always type in Twitter.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, me too.

[Laura Styles]

It just redirects you.

[Rosenberg]

I only do Twitter.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't type in anything.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. If I go there, I'm on Twitter.

[Laura Styles]

That's funny.

[Ebro Darden]

Speaking of Twitter, yesterday the Uzi Vert trolls. Yo, shout to the Uzi Vert trolls. They brought up. What was that? 20 years ago? How long ago was it now? 10.

[Rosenberg]

10.

[Ebro Darden]

10 years. 10 years ago. 10 years ago, your man Uzi Vert and I had a sit down. The gift that keeps on giving. I mean, the promo I get from the Uzi Vert fans is fantabulous. A couple things they don't know. I like to be proven wrong. I would love an artist to prove me wrong. I'm into that. Have me look at your work ethic and your. And your ability to rhyme and. And. And look at you and go, man, I don't think so. I don't know if this is gonna work out for you. Prove me wrong. Yeah, Uzi verb put in that work. That's great. I love, by the way, every time I see Uzi. Uzi, Lovely convo. I love that guy. Great guy.

[Rosenberg]

No, I, I don't.

[Laura Styles]

How many times have you seen Uzi after all this?

[Ebro Darden]

5 or 6.

[Rosenberg]

But people take it.

[Ebro Darden]

It's not like he does a lot of interviews. So it's not, you know.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

He's not an.

[Rosenberg]

But. But people take 10 years very seriously.

[Ebro Darden]

Very.

[Rosenberg]

I missed the be all end. It Was the anniversary. Ten years they waited for that.

[Ebro Darden]

You know, it hit me yesterday. I wonder when Issa's gonna pull up to me and be like, dad, why'd you say that about little Uzi vert? Because, you know, now she's old enough to, like, start seeing stuff. Yeah, it'll be a good time.

[Rosenberg]

It's actually close to now. Like, she's the target age range. I feel like, for little Uzi verse, she's almost there.

[Ebro Darden]

I think they've gotten older now. I mean, it was the first. What, 30 years old, but I still feel like kids still shimmying and leaning backwards.

[Rosenberg]

Some things just stay with kids, though.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

You know what I mean? True. Why is. What.

[Ebro Darden]

And Uzi versus the consummate troll. He's the greatest. Like, don't remember the whole diamond in his forehead and all that. He's the best.

[Rosenberg]

I forgot about that.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, he's been trolling. I've been trolling. It's been a great time.

[Rosenberg]

Years.

[Ebro Darden]

Uzi vert fans, y' all are the best. Love y'.

[Laura Styles]

All.

[Rosenberg]

No, that's nice. Of all the people who come for you, they. They're your favorite.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, for sure.

[Rosenberg]

Why? They're nicer?

[Ebro Darden]

No, I just. I don't know. There's no. They're. Uzi verts are very. I guess, because he's nice.

[Rosenberg]

Right?

[Ebro Darden]

So I see, you know, I mean, I see it as all the same.

[Rosenberg]

All right. So if you had to rank the people that come for you.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

The OVO bots, the Minaj bots, the vert fans.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. Who.

[Rosenberg]

What are you ranking them as?

[Ebro Darden]

Like, so best. Who? I enjoy. What am I ranking?

[Rosenberg]

Uzi vans are number one enjoyable. What about the Kodak fans? I don't know. Is that a thing?

[Ebro Darden]

Kodak fans, There's a. There's a hive. There's a Kodak hive.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. And they could. They could put together thoughts and say everything. You're not. They're not slumped on the keyboard.

[Ebro Darden]

No. They don't care as much. They just don't care. They're not even that brolical here like that towards me every now and then.

[Rosenberg]

It's in my pocket, the flare up.

[Ebro Darden]

But it's tough for them, you know, Kodak fans is tough because his. He has, like, right now, Uzi vert fans got a thing. He's got a number one song.

[Rosenberg]

Uzi does.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

What is it?

[Ebro Darden]

Where you been, bro? You haven't heard the Uzi vert song.

[Rosenberg]

Laura, do you know the Uzi versa? For weeks.

[Ebro Darden]

It's Been number one. I heard it.

[Laura Styles]

I just don't know the name of it.

[Rosenberg]

Okay, so she knows it. A jazz. Wow. How's it go?

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, how do any.

[Rosenberg]

I just want to rock, Rock, rock.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's similar, though. Is it similar?

[Rosenberg]

It's similar.

[Ebro Darden]

It's up. It's up tempo. But it's the number one song, man. It's number one on Apple music.

[Rosenberg]

Number one.

[Ebro Darden]

It's called. What you saying? I don't know if we could play it here because they'll shut us down.

[Rosenberg]

No, I don't.

[Laura Styles]

It's the fashion one.

[Ebro Darden]

It's like the fashion thing and it's like a whole.

[Rosenberg]

All right, stop, stop, stop. That's enough. That's enough. And then. Does he actually do anything on this one? I mean, does. Because I just want to rock that song and nothing ever happens. It's good.

[Ebro Darden]

I like it. You think you would. You would. You would. You would cover him as doing something on this?

[Rosenberg]

Doing something?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Like, do you hear him?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, he's on it. He's on it. But does the song. It's good. It's boppy. No, but it's not like he's barring it up. Like he can. Like, we know he can.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, but like, I. I want to rock first. I want to rock the same thing. Great song. You could hear the whole song. Like, wait, what part was Uzi for? It just. The song just happens. It's like a thing.

[Ebro Darden]

This is similar. It's similar. It's similar.

[Rosenberg]

A thing just happens.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, but people love it. It's big on Tick Tock. It's big in the background of stuff.

[Rosenberg]

I heard it and I sound. I feel intrigued to hear more of it. Y.

[Ebro Darden]

Sounds good.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. He makes music that he makes big record.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Rockstar.

[Ebro Darden]

You think he's rock star.

[Rosenberg]

It's close. It's close, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

All he needs now is what, the classic album and the arena tour.

[Rosenberg]

You're moving the goal post. No, no.

[Ebro Darden]

That's what a rock star was from then. I've always. But you had to have.

[Rosenberg]

You had to have a classic album.

[Ebro Darden]

Don't rock stars have classic albums?

[Rosenberg]

Not so. I mean, I. I don't know. Does. Does. Does White Snake. They were.

[Ebro Darden]

I wasn't even. I wasn't even think. I was thinking like Wayne. I was in the hip hop. I was more in the hip hop space of rock stars. Because I think that's what he's going for, right? He's not going for Bo movie. You know what I mean? Who also has A classic album, but, yeah, I was thinking more in the hip hop sphere of people trying to be rock stars. I mean, that's kind of a Wayne thing. He was considered himself a rock star, right?

[Rosenberg]

And then he made a rock album, and guess what it went.

[Ebro Darden]

Congratulations. You played yourself mad. Damn. Shout out to Flavor Flav on the close. Oh, I just got a shot at. You know. Remember, no gurus today.

[Rosenberg]

Is it late? Too late.

[Ebro Darden]

I just wanted to shout out to. I wanted to shout out. No, we got to get to the gurus. We had complaints yesterday.

[Rosenberg]

All right.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know if you guys were ready. I just wanted to give flavor. Flavor. Shout out before we get to the gurus. Gurus would be the clothes. Do we have the Flavor Flav clip?

[Rosenberg]

Hey, yo.

[Ebro Darden]

Hillary Knight and the women's hockey team. I know y' all got my invite to come to Vegas. I want to go bigger and better,

[Rosenberg]

you know what I'm saying? Word up.

[Ebro Darden]

Guess what I'm going to do. I want to bring all United States female Olympians and Paralympians, the ones that won medals. Also all my USA Bobsled and skeleton athletes. You know what I'm saying? I'm the official sponsor and hype, man. Just remember that, all right? And I got you guys covered, all right?

[Rosenberg]

We gonna throw a big party.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I'm saying? One night. And all Olympians are invited to come

[Rosenberg]

to this party, all right?

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, we got to build up everybody.

[Rosenberg]

And that's what this is all about.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I'm saying?

[Rosenberg]

So I want to see everybody bring your body to the party, all right? Flavor.

[Ebro Darden]

Flavor. All right. Well, because remember the whole story when he. About women's sports.

[Laura Styles]

Love him.

[Rosenberg]

No, I love the whole women's water team. Yeah, I think he's, like, part of the Olympic situation.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I didn't think everybody remembered that he was a part of that. So I wanted to like, you. You did the hockey thing, and that was kind of the fallout. I wanted to. So men's hockey, I wanted to give the positive flavor.

[Rosenberg]

Where's the party? What's actually happening?

[Ebro Darden]

It's in Vegas, and then you have, like, airlines. Alaska Airlines is giving flights, so he actually.

[Rosenberg]

There was.

[Ebro Darden]

Hotels have chipped in for free stays cool. The. The people are getting, like, spa treatments and all this stuff in Vegas. Like, it's a thing.

[Rosenberg]

But the information was, like, included on the post under it or something.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's just been circulating.

[Rosenberg]

God. Okay. Yeah, I just didn't know what he was talking about because he Was like, I just want you all to come party with Flavor Flav. And I'm like, that's not an invitation.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, yeah?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

I think it was down on his post.

[Rosenberg]

If you just get a message from someone, it says, come party with Flavor. And you're just like, that's not a real invitation. I don't know what I'm supposed to do.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, I think we gotta get to the gurus. Yeah, man, but I need an intro for the guru. Do I have that?

[Laura Styles]

All right, let's do it.

[Ebro Darden]

What happened to the guru intro? It's not here anymore. I did play it yesterday. It's not here anymore. All I have is.

[Rosenberg]

Well, I mean, that does the job.

[Ebro Darden]

And I have Laura got the run, and that's not it.

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Ebro Darden]

And I have.

[Rosenberg]

That's a liar, man. Man, if this were reversed, if. If I were the one doing this right now.

[Ebro Darden]

You should be frying me right now.

[Rosenberg]

I can't. Oh, there you go.

[Ebro Darden]

I had to go dig it up. I was stalling, right? You know, you are beautiful queen Eo. Don't ever play yourself. You're not a guru. The original gurus at Gmail. The original gurus at Gmail.

[Laura Styles]

Breathe in, breathe out.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, I mean, it's something. The original gurusmail.com. your destination. For clarity.

[Ebro Darden]

Let's get to it.

[Rosenberg]

All right. Good morning, gurus. Ebro has always been a guru. Lauren Rosenberg. You two may have more experience with this. As someone that had to unfortunately deal with losing a loved one from drug addiction years ago, someone that I love and I'm very close with, I'm in fear that they are going to potentially die from this as well.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

They've come from a history of sexual abuse and they've experienced that. They've experienced as a child and also as an adult. Their use of drugs such as opiates is their way to self soothing from those traumas. And unfortunately, how some recovery centers give patients all sorts of prescriptions for SSRIs or other drugs without really doing the work is helping them. How do I help them? Or is it something that I can only just stay by them, but realize that if they want to get clean, they'll have to do the work. It hurts me to see them going through at times and hearing how they want to recover. But this. But also knowing that the addiction has a hold on them so strong, knowing that it will kill them. Opiates. Drug laced. Drugs laced with fentanyl.

[Ebro Darden]

Damn.

[Rosenberg]

Etc. They live in Patterson, New Jersey, where the amount of people suffering from addiction is super close to that of the Kensington area of Philly. Thank you so much.

[Ebro Darden]

That Patterson got it going on like that. Patterson. I didn't know it was like that over there.

[Guest/Caller]

Yeah.

[Laura Styles]

This is rough.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't.

[Rosenberg]

I don't. I don't. I never had this exact situation where I, you know, I knew someone.

[Ebro Darden]

Opiate addiction.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Where I knew someone was, like, killing themselves, you know, I. I don't mean

[Ebro Darden]

I. I'm not familiar with opiate. Opioid addiction. To know if they mean figuratively or literally,

[Rosenberg]

I. I assume they mean.

[Laura Styles]

I'm sure it's literal.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I assume it's literal, but I don't know what they're saying. Like, you know, I guess there's. There are levels. Right. Like, you're doing them. It started out as a pain drug. You're now still doing it. You're still sort of functioning in ways, and then they're straight. You're leaned every minute. You know what I'm saying? You're just high as a kite. I don't know.

[Ebro Darden]

When your life is in shambles, you're living on the street. You know all that.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, listen, you have to try to. If this is what's going on, I would think you have to rally a group of people around here and maybe do an intervention and do the work that's required to do an intervention. Find a place that you would be able to maybe send this person if possible. And I don't know if there's family that you could also lean on and pull together an intervention. I don't know what the other option is besides tell them you love them and you can't stand by and watch them. You're not gonna support their lifestyle.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I think the reason the emailer said you have experience is because of just the addiction. Because isn't there some sort of. With all addictions, there's some sort of similar issue.

[Rosenberg]

I think the root causes can all be very similar. But the problem is when you start getting into deep physical addiction, we're having a separate chemical. We're having a. Yeah, we're having chemical dependency.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Now we're having a separate conversation. You know, I'm saying, like, that's going to require more than a little bit more than, like, hey, go to really good therapy and come up with a program and read the black book.

[Ebro Darden]

Or, you know, the black book.

[Rosenberg]

What is that? Alcoholics Anonymous. Got it. Like, you know, by the way, I'm sure it would be useful.

[Ebro Darden]

Right?

[Rosenberg]

But. But I feel like when you're into full on opioid addiction. Now we've got an actual chemical dependency, you know what I'm saying?

[Ebro Darden]

Laura?

[Laura Styles]

I think one of the hardest things here is the person has to actually want the help. That's the hardest part. Yeah, because you can do everything you said Rosenberg, rally around them and like get family to like, you know, want to step in and show them all the love and support. But if that person doesn't want it, there's really nothing you can do. And I've seen people in this space, I've had friends who've had relatives, I mean as close as like brothers who have been addicted to certain things. And you know, family has tried and when they don't want the help, I think that's the soul crushing part because you're literally seeing them crumble. And there comes a point where you can help them as much as you can, but if they don't want the help, sometimes you kind of have to step away and just let them know, like, I'm here for you, you, but I can't watch you kill yourself.

[Ebro Darden]

There was someone who once told me that they were helping a family member and it was like it happened in steps. It was like connecting with them in a real way and letting them know they're loved and appreciated and that they, you want to support them and then finding out if they really, really wanted help, they really, really wanted a life change. And once you can kind of get them to this, yes, I don't want this to be my life, then maybe you can love them and, and coerce them and hold their hand into a treatment facility knowing that after that treatment facility they might relapse again and go back. And so it becomes this ping pong. But over time they begin to remember how great they felt being loved, cared for and trying to be sober. And so that gets them on the path. It's kind of, you know, you kind of like, you know, things just get kind of, you know, what's that called? They, they ebb and flow into a positive space over time. And for the email, I think that's maybe something you could just try to do. Try the just one thing. It's not going to be a flip, a switch and everything's going to be all perfect again. I don't think that's the way this works. I think this is. Can you get step one done, which is them acknowledging they want help? That's, that's like a boom.

[Rosenberg]

Which is why the intervention thing is what often people do. Cuz when they See, the. The amount of people who are like, hey, we're upset enough to come get together and have this awkward moment with you that it's like, oh, this is a problem.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

So I. I'd be curious to see if this person has reached out to family and friends of the person. Also try. I would not want to try to do this alone, though. It's a lot to take on. Why you, like, he didn't say, it's my absolute best friend or my brother, right? Like, does it need to be you? Are you the only person who can do this? Can you get support and kind of put something together? But we wish you the best. So say the gurus.

[Ebro Darden]

So say the gurus. No outro. That's when I use the intros.

[Rosenberg]

Well, like, I thought it was gonna be different. Was like, it's time for the gurus.

[Ebro Darden]

Gurus, gurus.

[Rosenberg]

And then a beat. But just the whole intro again is crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

Great show today.

[Rosenberg]

TV shows. Remember they had the big intro and remember, like, the. The Good Times outro.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, that's Jefferson. Maybe we get Khaled to hum the outro.

[Rosenberg]

The Jefferson outro.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, we didn't shout the super chat at all today. Rosenberg, you slipping on the J. O. I did one. That's not enough.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, man, DJ Soul Riffic came through with a hundo. See Philly Fox lot. I've been rocking with you guys every morning for 10 plus years.

[Ebro Darden]

Keep it popping. Love, man, love.

[Rosenberg]

Well, let me see if I missed any other big ones.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, man, you hearing those whispers? Laura Styles? I'm hearing there's trouble in paradise. They done unfollowed us on the ground.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, it's crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

Nah, the old plantations. Something funny happening, bro.

[Rosenberg]

The block is crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

No, they blocked all of us on the grammar. Yo, that is the most made thing I done ever heard of.

[Rosenberg]

It's crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

What is wrong with y', all, bro?

[Rosenberg]

No, listen, pay us our money and you can leave me blocked if you want, but it's still crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

That's a whole different issue. Why. Why are you. Why are you. Why? Why? What is it? Like, Is it because. No, seriously. But you know what? Let me stop the outro. Let's stop. Is it because. No, no, no. It's not even that dramatic, what I'm about to say, like, for real. For real. Because I left a couple of positive comments supporting Mero or Flex or whatever the post was about, because it came up on my timeline. I thought flame emojis, whatever does is. Are they concerned that, like, my Name or our names in front of their listeners is like reminding them that we're not there. And by the way, this is me really trying to be. Understand what. Why Block.

[Rosenberg]

Nice. Crazy. I think I. I could actually, like. I have some thoughts.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, let me.

[Rosenberg]

But no, no. I don't know if I want to say them here.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, God.

[Rosenberg]

But I. I think, like, Patreon episode maybe. Maybe on Patreon. By the way, we have Patreon today. Oh, today's Wednesday, so Patreon dropping shortly. So get on the Patreon. But, yeah, I have theories. But either way, it's made. But the whole thing's been made. No one could have a straight phone call. No one can say any. No one can say words. I've never had something end like this that has to be this way. It. And it's crazy because I don't even really know y'. All. There's not even some deep thing like why? Why?

[Ebro Darden]

And so. Because it's made. I'm be honest with you.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm be honest with you. And Rosenberg doesn't like this about me.

[Rosenberg]

Oh. It makes me feel like they're my friends.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, no. That's not what he was going to say.

[Rosenberg]

I like them. They're nice.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, we're not going away. It's not like we're gone. It's not 20 years ago where something completely, completely disappears that has a following and a brand.

[Rosenberg]

Right?

[Ebro Darden]

Right. Like, you can't just erase things and act like you're the big behemoth and things are just gone. Right. So the plans that I have and the money that I'm gonna spend on the plans that I have are going to. It's going to make it worse that y' all being little.

[Rosenberg]

Why would you have one like this one?

[Ebro Darden]

Because the money spending part, because you're always like, yo, stop spending too much. So much money. We could have got that for.

[Rosenberg]

No. Because he says, I'm spending, but in the end, we're all spending. He just says, I. And it sounds.

[Ebro Darden]

Because I'm fronting the cash he's fronted.

[Rosenberg]

We're spending money n. They're going to be annoyed, bro. They're going to be annoyed when they see it.

[Ebro Darden]

It don't have to be like this.

[Rosenberg]

It does. Why? Why are you making it this way? That's all right.

[Ebro Darden]

Patreon later on. Don't call it a podcast.