45.) Friday Freedom, Family Matters, and the Continued Epstein Saga (2/27/26)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show

Episode 45: Friday Freedom, Family Matters, and the Continued Epstein Saga
Date: February 27, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This episode kicks off the “Friday Freedom” energy — a favorite with listeners and full of candid banter on family life, culture, pop fandom, and the ongoing fallout from the Jeffrey Epstein case. True to form, Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg weave together parenting laughs, unfiltered social commentary, and a healthy dose of self-deprecation about their evolving digital chapter post-radio. They deliver their signature “Family Matters” segment, read heartfelt listener emails, and get into a lively on-air debate around conspiracy theories and navigating complicated cultural conversations.

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Key Discussion Points & Timestamps

1. The Friday Freedom & Chicago Wrestling Trip

[01:31–03:51]

• The crew sets the tone of Friday episodes: “It’s all about the friends of the show on Friday. There’s freedom. There’s... family matter.” — Ebro [01:33]
• Rosenberg reveals he's heading to Chicago for WWE’s Elimination Chamber at the United Center.
• They joke about surviving Chicago’s cold. Discussion of “electric socks” and trench weather banter:
  • “You better get yourself one of those electric socks.” — Laura [03:26]
  • “They have electric shirts, vests, all that.” — Ebro [03:30]

2. Family Matters: Parenting, Parties & Social Media

[04:01–24:15]

• Recap of the “Salasi 2nd B-Day Soiree” featuring Elmo and Abby.
• The magic and antics of little kids’ parties, including hype-chants and the joy of seeing their children interact.
  • “All of a sudden I just hear a big Elmo chant break out... I see my wife look back at me and go, ‘I started this.’” — Rosenberg [04:43]
• Hilarious stories about children monopolizing babies and the etiquette of “holding the baby” when you're still a baby.
  • “But you’re still a baby!” — Laura [07:57]
• The “food swat” struggles — how toddlers end a meal: “How disrespectful, by the way, is the swatting the food…” — Rosenberg [12:25]
• Mess at restaurants, screen time philosophies, and “controlled” iPad use.
  • “I just want to keep her off of YouTube as... anything.” — Rosenberg [16:30]
  • “If you want your kids to not do something, you gotta not do something. It’s called sacrifice. It’s called parenting. Whoa.” — Ebro [17:00]

Memorable Parenting Clips

• Rosenberg’s delight in his daughter’s clapping manipulation (and her glee in the power): [11:13–12:08]
• Family photos, “no pictures!” defiance ("She’s northwest.” — D, [10:08])
• The evolving use of iPads and strategies to avoid screens while dining: [14:55–16:44]

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3. Listener Emails: Community & Connection

[26:47–36:40]

• Email from Ilana, who found solace in the show after her mother’s passing:
  • “What used to be the most difficult part of my day has now become something I look forward to. Your impact goes far beyond just talking.” — Ilana’s email read by Laura [27:24]
• Cap from Detroit shouts out the show’s longevity and his learned “New Yorker” wisdom.
• The return of a previous debate about “DJ John’s Conspiracy” segment — playful accusations he “imploded” the show (comic email, [29:41]).

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4. Community Feedback & Respectful Disagreement

[31:12–33:37]

• A reflective, heartfelt apology from a listener named Tracy for her earlier tone calling out Rosenberg’s “privilege” — notable for its humility and self-awareness:
  • “I should have been more mindful of your past experiences... My response was rooted in how certain statements landed with me in the moment...” — Tracy’s email, read by Rosenberg [31:36]

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5. “The Continued Epstein Saga” & Public Discourse

[39:40–53:38]

• Rosenberg responds to Marlon’s criticism about “blind spots” and being told to “occasionally step back and listen to Black people” (in light of past comments on black issues and his skepticism of Epstein conspiracies).
  • “My profession in life is listening to Ebro... But don’t act like I never sit and listen and hear what people are saying.” — Rosenberg [40:42]
• On debates about conspiracy theories: the balance between skepticism and acknowledging real historical evils. Rosenberg and Ebro discuss the dangers of letting non-credible sources muddy truly horrifying injustices.
  • “If we pursue every outlandish theory without evidence, the real stuff gets ignored.” — Rosenberg [43:06]
  • “You can be offended, upset, and distraught about the Epstein files without believing every single video that hits your algorithm, people.” — Rosenberg [44:26]
  • “The capacity of human beings to do some of the most evil things...” — Ebro [43:40]
• Ebro details how wealthy and powerful people have historically been both abusers and protected by the system:
  • “The most powerful subverting law... being elected in the public office right now... And then playing in their voters’ faces.” — Ebro [51:02]
• They both recognize the emotional reactions the topic produces and their own frustrations with how algorithm-driven content shapes public perception.

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6. Fostering Racial Identity in Adopted Kids

[59:57–69:42]

• “Gurus” segment: Listener Max writes in about fostering Black children as a white family in a conservative area, seeking advice on instilling Black pride.
  • Ebro draws from personal experience:
    • “You going to know you Black when the police pull you over... When they’re talking about slavery and the whole class turns around, looks at you...” — Ebro [62:09]
    • “All you can do is love them, expose them to Black spaces and culture, and be ready for when the world highlights their differences.” — Ebro [68:37]
  • Advice: Attend Black cultural events, expose children to a variety of communities, and support positive racial identity.

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7. Show Culture, Banter & Behind-the-Scenes

• Jokes about being blocked by their former radio employer on Instagram:
  • “Being blocked on IG is wild, bro. What? Why block us? What are we going to do? Comment?” — Rosenberg [58:39]
• Playful plans to bring kids to the studio for Family Matters
• Brainstorming new segments: “Laura Never Listens” (quizzing Laura on things discussed in the episode, [57:15])

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• “Electric socks?” — [03:30] (Rosenberg marvels at cold weather gear)
• “All of a sudden I just hear a big Elmo chant break out... my wife goes, ‘I started this.’” — [04:43] (Rosenberg)
• “If you want your kids to not do something, you gotta not do something. It’s called sacrifice. It’s called parenting. Whoa.” — [17:00] (Ebro)
• “You can be offended, upset, and distraught about the Epstein files without believing every single video that hits your algorithm, people.” — [44:26] (Rosenberg)
• “The most powerful subverting law... and then playing in their voters’ faces.” — [51:02] (Ebro, on high-profile abusers)
• “You going to know you Black when the police pull you over... when they’re talking about slavery and the whole class turns around, looks at you...” — [62:09] (Ebro)

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Engaging & Memorable Moments

• Parenting talk: toddlers “manipulating” their parents with games, and collective stories of food-related chaos as their kids experiment with independence [11:13–12:08, 12:25]
• Ebro and Rosenberg’s heartfelt and respectful debate regarding the limits of conspiracy, responsibility as influencers, and knowing when to listen versus when to push back [39:40–47:55]
• Listeners’ touching notes on how the show has helped them through grief, demonstrating ELR’s impact beyond mere entertainment [27:24]
• Listeners calling for more family involvement on air — a clear sign of the community’s investment in the hosts as relatable people [55:00]

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Conclusion & Tone

The episode blends playful, familiar banter with heartfelt honesty about family, culture, and the responsibility of a public platform. The hosts mix humor with vulnerability, showing genuine care for listeners and each other while not shying away from tough, sometimes uncomfortable, cultural discussions. They model curiosity, open debate, and self-awareness, making the ELR Show more than just a podcast—it’s a gathering space for growth, laughter, and community.

Original quote to end:
“All you can do is love them... and be ready for when the world highlights their differences.” — Ebro [68:37]

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Transcript

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[D]

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[D]

Just don't call it a podcast. The ebro laura rosenberg show. Yeah, man Friday. The first one. It's all about the friends of the show on Friday. There's freedom. There's what else happens. Family matter.

[A]

Freedom.

[D]

Family. Family. It's like a MAGA show. Freedom, Family and the second Amendment.

[A]

That's right. Bring our guns to this show on Friday.

[D]

Brought my guns to the gun show.

[A]

Oh, Friday. God bless it.

[D]

Listen, it's been a busy week of shenanigans from Tourette's to 50 Cent ti to. What else did we get into this week? The SN Snow debacle.

[A]

Oh, yeah, you. State of the Union. Yeah, US Hockey. A lot of stuff.

[D]

Lot of stuff.

[A]

I gotta go to Chicago tonight.

[D]

Chicago?

[B]

Oh, really?

[D]

What are you going out there for?

[A]

I mean, who doesn't? Well, who doesn't want to go to Chicago in February?

[D]

Yo, you may not make it home.

[A]

It's WWE's Elimination Chamber is at the United center tomorrow night. First time at the United center in like 30 some years.

[D]

Wow.

[A]

They always play the all State arena, which is the one further out. But they're back at United center, so should be dope as we get on the path to Wrestlemania. This is the last event before Wrestlemania.

[B]

So fun.

[A]

God bless. I'll make back from freezing cold Chicago,

[B]

bro, you, bro, you got to layer up. Like, you got to put on some tights underneath.

[A]

I got to find out if we're outside for this show.

[B]

What?

[A]

Oh my God, if we're outside. No, we might be outside.

[B]

Cuz Chicago is no joke, bro.

[A]

See what they're saying about this?

[D]

No, Chicago, it cuts. If you got to wear a suit or whatever outside, you definitely need to have multiple layers.

[B]

Yeah, you better get yourself one of those, you know, those electric socks.

[A]

Electric socks?

[D]

No, it works. You know, they have a electric shirt, bottom SOC vests, all that. I have electric socks I wear when I'm cycling, when it's really, really cold.

[A]

Wow. Crazy thing is today it's supposed to be in the 50s in Chicago.

[D]

Okay, not bad.

[A]

Tomorrow the high is 40.

[D]

They don't want that. It's going backwards.

[A]

Yeah, it's going the wrong way.

[D]

And you got that lake effect snow. Sometimes they just get snow because of the light.

[A]

It does have a little snowflake here just because.

[D]

Just because the lakes. Detroit. Doesn't Detroit get lake effect or is that Buffalo?

[A]

Buffalo definitely does.

[D]

Buffalo definitely get Lake Erie. Just look at you. All right, ladies and gentlemen, you can email ELR show at Gmail or Ebro Laura Rosenberg at Gmail. That's how you get your freedom Friday emails in. We also want to get to our family matters. A lot of family time this week. We were at the Salasi 2nd B Day Soiree big. You know what I'm saying? The extravaganza Elmo pulled up. You know what I mean? If you didn't catch earlier shows this week. Rahsaan, do you keep those clips on Stash? We don't have that one.

[B]

Elmo, Abby. It was fun.

[D]

Elmo and Abby pulling up the Elmo, Elmo, Elmo. It was fun. It was a good time.

[A]

That was. Speaking of family matters, I look over at my. When everyone's chanting over Elmo, all of a sudden I just hear a big Elmo chant break out. And I look over and I already know what's happened. I already know what's happened. And I look over and my wife looks back at me and she goes, I started this she did. And I go, of course.

[D]

Multiple times.

[A]

She's the biggest chanter. She loves to hype people up. Just in a situation, if you're not you. Like you're not sure what you want to do, she'll just start chanting your name and see what happens.

[D]

By the way, I heard her do it multiple times. Did it for Salasi. She did it for Elmo, and then I heard her do it another time for something.

[A]

Just trying to get it going.

[D]

Just trying to get it going.

[A]

But Elmo, you know, got to give Elmo credit. He didn't hesitate when the chant came. He started hitting.

[D]

Elmo was ready.

[A]

I'll save it for family matters, right?

[D]

Why? Why?

[A]

Well, no, because I had a. We have a clip to play, but unless you want to do family matters.

[D]

And let's get the family matters out of the gate.

[A]

Why not?

[D]

Why? Why not?

[A]

We breaking it up? Is it bad? No one tells us what to do.

[D]

I mean, that's why we got fired. We would have just listened to what we was being told to do. We still be stuck.

[A]

That's why we. That's why we got blocked. That's why we got blocked on Instagram.

[D]

We haven't talked about that, really, have

[A]

we not unfollowed and blocked is crazy.

[D]

But what. I don't.

[B]

I do.

[D]

No, no, no. I don't understand why now, like, all of us, was it all of a sudden? I don't. It is family matters. First things first. We got video of Over Possessive Kenza.

[A]

So if you've been listening to the show and if you listen to Patreon. If you listen to Patreon, you might hear that Kenza loves babies, and she's very excited about cousin Maya. This is the only baby around right now. She's the only baby smoking right now. I mean, listen, Selassie is still a baby, but Maya's a smaller, you know, flimsier baby. Cause he's definitely still a baby, too. But Maya's one. And so Kenza, when she sees her, her eyes lock in. It's like me at the buffet. You know what I mean? Like, she's ready. And so this was a video that. Do you caught. I think you filmed this, or you or Natalie caught this?

[B]

Yeah, I think this is Natalie's. I had a different angle.

[A]

Okay. This is from the party. Look how crazy Kenza is about Maya right here. Yo this high school prom hall right here.

[D]

Maya's looking back like, y. Personal space. Maji.

[B]

Yo some space.

[A]

The just comfortably holding someone like this.

[B]

She wants to hold her like a baby. She tells me, I wouldn't hold her like a baby like this. She gave me one of her dolls, and I was like, she's not that little. I was like, she wants to stand up and be independent. I'm sorry.

[A]

It's not just Kenza. Little kids, they love to ask to hold the baby.

[B]

Yeah.

[A]

And we're like, but you're still a baby. Yeah.

[D]

And it's not a toy.

[A]

Yeah. Like, you can't. We could set up a situation where it seems like you're holding the baby.

[D]

Yes.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

But you're not lifting this baby up. Like, you can't. You can't even do it.

[B]

Yeah. Yeah. Cause I have a picture of Issa holding Kenza, and Kenza looks like a doll, but Issa was sitting on the couch.

[A]

Like, just sitting on the couch.

[D]

That's how you do pandemic. So Issa was at least five or six already.

[A]

Yes, that's around.

[D]

Around the same time as him.

[A]

So I think, yeah, you gotta sit them. So if you sit her down, we can. We can do it.

[D]

Yeah, but just sitting. But I don't remember. I don't remember Issa hovering over a baby like that.

[A]

Well, Issa was. Issa's angle was, all right. This baby's cool, but, like, hold up. Remember, don't come in my room.

[D]

Yeah. Facts give me. My sister came to the house. Issa. That was the first time I ever seen Issa close her door.

[B]

It was so funny seeing Issa be like, oh, my God, this is what an annoying little sister's gonna be like. Yo. Issa was like, yeah, you go over there.

[A]

Book, close the door. Has Issa had any. Is the age gap now so big that she doesn't get annoyed at all with anything Salassi? Or are there moments where you can see she's having a. Like, definitely moments.

[D]

Definitely moments. But he's super patient. And Selassie's also not always on it. Right.

[A]

You know, sometimes she's just gently playing

[D]

her piano, or Selassie's just in her own world, doing her own thing.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

There's that initial when they haven't seen each other for a long time. That's not. Selassie's just on her heels, running to her rooms. Issa eta. Eata. Eata, like, constant did and just won't stop. And then by, like, day two or three, they kind of. You know, she's not. But there's also times when Issa's like, can I have a hug, Shalassi? No. No, stop. Stop giving Issa the bow.

[B]

No, listen, Jazz posted this really beautiful, like, little.

[A]

The best of.

[B]

I love.

[A]

It was the best of life.

[B]

But what about Sasi saying no pictures?

[D]

Oh, no.

[B]

Ran Jazz down looking straight and like, mom, no pictures. I was like, oh, my God.

[A]

Like, she's northwest.

[D]

Yeah. Like, well, listen, by the way, the amount of cameras that are in Selassie's

[B]

face, I get it.

[D]

Because, I mean, Jaz is a mom with a camera.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And it doesn't slow down.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, no, it's at 2. It's still going.

[D]

Well, the mom thing is still, like, you're incessant with the camera, you know, at least. What. You probably didn't let up on Kenza and Ricardo. You guys were heavy photos, heavy posts. You guys have even slowed down on Kenza post.

[B]

Yeah, I mean, I still take photos, but I just kind of keep them for myself.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

I mean, but the first couple years, everything's so new, and she's always in a new phase. There's, like, the teeth look different.

[D]

Well, no. And you're trying to catch firsts. Yeah, that's really what it is. You're trying to catch first without them looking and them doing a thing without them knowing and you getting that pure moment. Because then when you ask them do it again, it's. They just. You can't recreate it.

[A]

Did you see the story I put up the other day of her with the pancake of Maya with the pancakes?

[D]

No. So you should have sent it in for Family Matters. We're slipping. We're telling. We could have sent all this stuff in. It's gonna have been great.

[A]

Damn, you didn't. Yo, but my favorite. Let's see if I may have it as a separate video. Bascom. But my favorite thing about it is that when she catches me laughing, so I start laughing because she's just being funny. And then once she sees that she's making me laugh, she looks up and gets, like, so happy. I do sometimes worry that she has the bug of. We play this clapping game with her.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

She starts clapping, we start clapping. She stops clapping, we stop clapping. Yo, my dad. My dad did it. We were at Guapo's back in Bethesda last week, and my dad was like, let's all clap when she claps. And when she stops, stop. And we were like, all right. She starts doing it. And then once. Once it got going, and she was like, wait, you people do whatever I want. It was hilarious. And then I was like, oh, no. But now she's now she's got the bug. It's fun when people clap.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

Yep. Yep.

[D]

She'll get over it and about. Get bored in a week or change. Week or more.

[A]

Yeah. And get into the next.

[D]

Whatever the next thing is to pull you guys and manipulate you guys into whatever she wants.

[A]

We're not fully, like, we're still just easing our way into the manipulation.

[D]

No, you're in it.

[A]

It's now already.

[D]

You just don't even realize it's happening.

[A]

Yeah. How disrespectful, by the way, is the swatting the food. Like, why. When you decide you're done.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah.

[A]

You just ate 30 pieces of macaroni. Now. I dropped like seven more. And now you decided you have to smash it and throw it and just get.

[D]

Flip the plate over.

[A]

But just say you're done.

[B]

Yeah, she can't yet.

[D]

She hasn't put that together.

[A]

Well, just. Just be like gettin. Shake your head.

[D]

Selassie just maybe 5 months ago. Got to. I done. Like, she knew it. And we would work on it. Are you done? All done. All done.

[A]

I say all done.

[D]

Yeah, you keep working on. Yeah, that right there. This hand thing. All done. You work on it. You work on it. They just got to connect. You gotta stay on it. But the flipping of the plate or just knocking something over, there's you're about to.

[A]

We had a big night this week with the all done. Because we had watermelon slices and she was having a lot of fun and picking them up. And then she'd put one down and pick up another one and keep going. And then I thought she was done. And I would pick up the plate and I'd go, all done. And she would go, that's good. And then she would take. Keep. Just keep doing it. But this lasted for like 10 minutes. That's why I'm like, you're done, though.

[B]

Listen, the message.

[A]

She's sticking her finger in the middle.

[D]

I'm not done.

[A]

Yeah, you asked the question.

[D]

You asked me. Did you ask me if I was done or was I done eating?

[A]

Right, right. No, I may be done eating. I'm not done playing with just food.

[D]

That's right.

[B]

But just get ready. Look, I used to take Kenza out. You know, me and Ricardo were always out. We have these plastic little squares that we would tape to the table and she would just eat off of it. And it's a mess. And it's a mess. And listen, I would just make. Just get ready to tip extra for that Mess.

[A]

So last weekend we went to brunch. There's an Israeli place in our neighborhood. It's the one. I would say. The best thing about our neighborhood, which I'm constantly ishing on, is this Israeli restaurant that is slapping great brunch great. Just general Mediterranean food. Fire. And last Sunday, we went and it was the first time where she was grabbing every plate. That was the first time.

[D]

Here we go.

[A]

Up till now, she would sit at the table, wait for food, maybe, you know, maybe complain, do whatever, but not grab. Now it's anytime food is in.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

Bread basket, grab plate, grab silverware, everything.

[D]

Gotta move it away.

[A]

And so it makes the. It does make the eating more complicated.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

Because you have to now keep your food away from her. Yeah. And be feeding her as you're eating while keep. It's just this.

[D]

Well, also, you gotta bring stuff. Yeah. Activities or stuff that she can grab.

[A]

Right. So, like, maybe, like, we have a little. That we have that little gadget that just has, like, lots of buttons and plays, little light sounds for her.

[D]

Something. And you're about to get in iPad

[A]

mode, where you just busted out and say, watch this, Ms. Rachel.

[D]

That's right.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

I'm trying to put that iPad on the table.

[A]

You guys did a good job utilizing the iPad, but also not having it become an obsession. Right.

[D]

You can't have it. Other than she. The only time she can have it is when we're at her. There's no iPad at home. Like, you don't just.

[A]

But do. But. But. No, no. But. What about tv? Like, show watching tv, but. But you. But you save the specific times in which you pull out an iPad or phone to watch a thing.

[D]

Yeah. Well, that's only like, if we're at a restaurant. We got to keep her, you know, from destroying everyone's good time.

[A]

Got it. That's. And you.

[D]

And we usually try to wait, like, 30 to 40 minutes because we're like, all right, we sat down. We can only be here for an hour and a half. We're only gonna last hour now.

[A]

Tops.

[D]

Tops. So the first 30, we're gonna try to entertain her. We're gonna try to get some bread to the table, something she can snack on to keep her busy. She's gonna be grabbing water, doing whatever she's doing. Then she's gonna get over that. Then she's gonna want to get up around time. She wants to get out of her seat.

[A]

Now we gotta go iPad.

[D]

Right.

[A]

So. Because the one thing I want to avoid Is. I'm hearing my friend is staying with his family right now that has four kids. They range from like 12 to four or whatever. He said at one point he looked over. Every one of the kids is just scrolling. Scroll. Yeah, you just hear different sounds.

[D]

Scrolling through what?

[A]

YouTube shorts or. Or.

[D]

Nah, you can't have that at home.

[A]

At home.

[D]

No, you can't have that.

[B]

You gotta just try your best not to do it at home. That's what I try.

[A]

How do we. How do we. I just wanna keep her off of YouTube. As. As of anything. Except we watch a show. Like, we can watch a show, but the idea that you're gonna be on a thing.

[D]

Yeah, but how would she choose if all she has is the tv, Right.

[A]

Then she wouldn't.

[B]

Or you could do, like, Disney or something where it's only movies. You could do that.

[D]

But you gotta. But you also. They're watching you on your phone, right? So you have to put your phone down. Parents. So they don't watch with them the same show for the 1000th time.

[A]

Otherwise, they're going to see you scrolling and think that's what looks fun is scrolling.

[D]

Yeah, give me your phone. Or I want to do it, too. And you're going to do it. It's going to happen. You're not going to be perfect, right? Because you're going to be returning a work email or you're going to be texting with a family member or whatever you're going to be doing. But you do have to. If you want your kids to not do something, you got to not do something. It's called sacrifice. It's called parenting. Whoa. It's crazy. And you're going to fail.

[A]

And it's tiring, but you gotta keep trying.

[D]

Yo, where's the Best of Selassie? Let me get that.

[A]

See if he has it. I sent him Maya with the pancake, too.

[D]

Want both of those?

[B]

All right. You are my sunshine. My only sunshine. You make me happy in every way. You'll always know, dear? How much I love you. You're my sun. Shine every single day.

[D]

Like the other layer.

[A]

What is. How does it really end?

[D]

Well, I will discuss it after.

[A]

Look at this kid.

[B]

Cutest little face.

[D]

This little kid. 13, 14.

[A]

Let's stop around 16.

[B]

You have two cookies. I have one cookie. Fifi has no cookies.

[D]

I don't have any cookies.

[B]

This is all that's left. What should we do? Stand next to Grandma. Say cheese. Say cheese. Grandma's popping.

[D]

I can't see your face. The balloon.

[A]

How is that grandma. That's grandma.

[D]

Is this fun?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

What do you want to say?

[A]

A little ride in the basket?

[B]

He said, thank you. You're welcome, my love.

[D]

Look at her little foot that begin me where she really, really trying to. She's like, I'm getting posing with your sister.

[B]

Let's see.

[D]

Pose.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

Another pose. Switch poses.

[D]

Pose.

[B]

Nice pose.

[A]

Switch is so cool.

[B]

Oh, cute pose. Thank you so much for my tea. Are you having some tea as well?

[D]

Some boots that she likes. Abby Elmo boots. That's somebody got us. They're for in the house boots. She loves her boots.

[B]

This is crazy how kids start so early on the school.

[A]

Are you still. Natalie saw this. She was like, where is this bumblebee place?

[D]

We know the bumblebee whole class that she goes to once or twice a week, and they have all these different activities. Now, the plot twist is, I think it's in, like, Korean. So she's the only black kid in there, but they be showing up.

[A]

The whole thing's in Korean.

[D]

I think they speak English sometimes, but there's a lot of Korean kids there.

[B]

But are you having a refreshing beverage?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Are you wrapped like a burrito?

[D]

Yeah.

[B]

Like a baby burrito?

[D]

Yeah. Here we go.

[B]

Okay. I just wanted to.

[D]

No, I just wanted to hear you sing.

[B]

No pictures.

[A]

Mom, she's done.

[D]

How old are you? What is she doing? What's happening?

[B]

How old are her?

[D]

She is the loungiest kid since birthday. Good. She would sit with her legs and feet cross like Rosenberg.

[A]

Yo, I like this video.

[D]

Nah, Salasi is the lousiest child.

[A]

I love it.

[D]

Yay. Comfortable. And then this is just a highlight of the whole birthday Elmo little situation. Happy birthday, Salasi. Two years old in it, man. Shout out to her mom, man. Shahlassi's mom is just. I mean, look at this. From the dress to the details at the party to the video. She made the video.

[A]

This kid has a good life.

[D]

Her mom's doing work in the building. All the kitties, Abby Kadabi, little legend popping. You know what I'm saying? She wasn't really checking for Abby that tough. She was checking for Elmo. I don't think Abby was really nailing the abbey. Hey, pop. Ah, bounce.

[A]

Yo, this is a full documentary.

[D]

Yeah, it is.

[A]

No, we just watched the swasti documentary

[D]

on Netflix Two years in.

[A]

Two years.

[D]

Netflix it is. Yo, family.

[A]

By the way, I already watched that literal the entire thing yesterday. I sat back, and at the same time at the end, I went, wow. I really feel like I experienced That.

[B]

I know, I know, I know.

[D]

Do we have Maya with the pancakes? It's family matters, man.

[A]

What you doing? You just eating a piece of pancake for dinner. That's the leftover pancake from the Israeli, the aforementioned. This is what Bear. I'm sure all dogs know about this. What's she gonna drop, baby? That table, right? Perfect for him. You have your doggy and he eats the crumbs. Okay, Whoa, whoa, Bear, look. There you go. You came up with bear. Look at the dub.

[D]

Good looking, pops.

[A]

So you watch. Why are you slapping your pancake? What are we doing? You're funny, girl. Yo, her hair. What? You're. What are we doing? Like, what are we even doing?

[D]

It's just all out of whack for the next. It's just.

[A]

It's just.

[D]

And you gotta kind of. Well, some cultures, they shave the head at 1 years old. They start fresh.

[B]

I hate that.

[D]

Yeah, start fresh. Some cultures, they'll be like, it's one year, we start and boom. The hair is just all out of whack. It makes it grow thicker, even. Something.

[A]

Really? That's a thing?

[D]

That's a thing.

[B]

I'm like, I'm not doing all that. I. I think, I think my friend got into a huge fight with her mother in law because her mother in law did it without telling her.

[A]

No. That's crazy.

[B]

Yes.

[A]

That is the loosest behavior I've ever heard.

[B]

Listen, I would light up the entire.

[A]

Oh, that would take that recovery, by

[D]

the way, guys, if you. If your culture does do the head shaving at one year or whatever, it's not a bad idea.

[A]

No, no, but you can.

[B]

You have to ask.

[A]

Don't. You can't just go.

[D]

For sure, for sure. But it's also not. Let me tell you.

[A]

Ebro shaved his head at 50.

[D]

Exactly.

[A]

You want to start fresh?

[D]

36.

[B]

No. Ebro, you're like, it's just hair. No, you don't do that.

[D]

No, you're right. But it's also just hair.

[A]

Right, but you can't just show up. And if I showed up and the baby was bald, I'd be like,

[D]

moms are going to war over. Moms are going away. And some dads I'm sure too, like. But it is. It is just hair. And are we done with Family Matters?

[B]

Yes. Yes. Yeah.

[A]

Just a light, easy one.

[D]

Can we replace this? Griff, what are we doing? We still got.

[A]

It's just. It's like New Family Matters remix.

[D]

Did you send me a new one?

[A]

Family Matters DJ dropping

[D]

Family Matters.

[B]

I Wish I could have showed you guys Kenza on stage. But other kids.

[A]

Oh, yeah, other kids.

[D]

Oh, yeah. You can't. You can't. That was loose with me putting up the documentary. I was worried about that.

[A]

Hey, they're kind of in there. Yeah, they came to your party, so.

[D]

Yeah, I didn't have a sign up that said this party might be filmed and you might be on the ELR show, though.

[A]

So this is your new thing. You play the out. The intro as the outro. Now for everything we do, I just start doing it.

[D]

Kind of sounds good. Don't lie. No, it's good separation.

[A]

It's. It's. It is. It is good separation.

[D]

It's good separation. Start a new topic.

[A]

I mean, if I did it, he'd be like, yo, what, Rose, you should making a mixtape over there.

[D]

That's not true.

[A]

You make it a mixtape. Try to drop joints.

[B]

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[D]

We got to get to freedom Friday time on the ELR show. Please subscribe, like and do all the things that the algorithm likes to let us other people know we're going point. And also subscribe to the Patreon if you're so financially inclined. You can find it on the Patreon app. Fresh episode this week, the ELR show. And it's. It's ELR Unfiltered is the official title of the. Is it unleashed or unfiltered? I don't know.

[A]

I think we should do. I think we should do emails first.

[D]

Emails first. All right, let's get to it. Go ahead, Laura.

[B]

Start with one. This is from Ilana. Good morning, family. On December 31st, my mom passed away, and I used to call her every single day on my way home from work. And the hardest part is losing. The hardest part of losing her has not having those daily phone calls. But right around that time, you all started your new YouTube show, without even thinking about it, I began logging on and listening on demand. 30 minutes on my commute there and 30 minutes on my commute home. What used to be the most difficult part of my day has now become something I look forward to.

[D]

Amazing.

[B]

Your impact goes far beyond just talking. You've helped me get regulated, grounded, and calm during one of the hardest periods of my life. That means more than I could put into words. I love you guys. And thank you, Alana.

[D]

Oh, thank you, Alana.

[B]

Email Alana. Sending you so much love.

[D]

Yo, on a couple of housekeeping notes I want to shout out to Cap, who emailed back in February. Long time podcast listener from Detroit says he's been listening so long, I feel like I'm a New Yorker with all the info and conversations y' all have. But those combos help me understand what's going on in my area and what to look out for. So. Love to you, Cap from the D. Also, Leo, he has a DJ John Conspiracy. Did you guys see this?

[B]

What is

[D]

says this is back early February, though.

[A]

We have another DJ John Conspiracy voice note, too.

[D]

Oh, really?

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

What's the dj? Let's listen to Daniel, the DJ John Conspiracy. Let's see what this is all about. What up, team? It's blood in the Water. You already know what it is, man. This one goes out to Ebros, yo. Ebro. Yes, I appreciate the Patreon. I'm gonna be a supporter. But, yo, you're telling me you can't talk to Apple? Can't have them create your studio so you can play jingles and have the rights to play music? Come on, bro. Come on, make it happen. Hey, but on some real talk, I want to rewind the clocks a little bit, man. Play my conspiracy music. Oh, man, we need. I remember just a month ago, we were in some holiday cheer singing Christmas songs, when DJ John got on the radio and said a certain St. Nick didn't exist.

[A]

Y' all remember that?

[D]

And that very same week, y' all got fired.

[A]

Facts.

[D]

Was it the same week? And then Shawnee got his voice back. Yo, you remember that? Yeah, man. What's talking? Yeah. How dare you. You're on something. Yo, this Leo right here says the same thing. I just want to put it on my tin hat real quick and get this off my chef. Is it possible DJ John knew what was coming and that's why he went rogue on the show?

[B]

Oh my God.

[D]

I've been thinking about this for a while because it doesn't make sense any other way. Why else would he choose to implode like that? The man Tried to January 6th, Santa Claw. Crazy.

[A]

That's a crazy way of putting Christmas.

[D]

And the next day management pulled the plug. Something's not lining up. Could he have gotten insider info? Was it one last act of defiance? As I'm writing this, I'm realizing that will require some level of cohesion in his thought process. So hit me with the button, yo. Congratulations. You played yourself. One last thing. How is it that you all spent two decades on the radio avoiding fines from the FCC and the second you got on YouTube you turned into George Carlin, our three month old future FTS. So we appreciate you cleaning up the language. I'm here for the grown folk language on Patreon though. Love you guys.

[A]

Yeah, we do. I did see a, A bunch of messages. Not one or two. I did see a bunch of messages of people saying they're fine with cursing on Patreon.

[B]

Me too.

[A]

Like they like the idea of it being a little bit looser.

[D]

Yeah. I just feel like it's. I. I'm one of those. I guess that's me being an old head. Right.

[A]

Where you for better say than sorry,

[D]

mother effing an F word. And just because you can now like lame.

[A]

I think it's more like maybe when I say bullish on this show. We can, can not say bull ish on Patreon. Yeah, but you know, but also too,

[D]

I think we've also, as this person put. We've been on the air so long keeping it clean that it's almost second nature when a mic is in front of me to think about keeping things clean.

[A]

Yeah, it's kind of built in.

[D]

What you got over there, Rosenberger?

[A]

Well, I got a. I'm in a quandary.

[D]

All right.

[A]

Because I have, I have interesting emails here coming for me.

[D]

Okay.

[B]

Okay.

[A]

And I. And I also have the, the woman

[D]

who wrote the very detailed psychological breakdown of your privilege. Yes.

[A]

She wrote a follow up sort of apology email.

[D]

Okay, I go with that one because it seems like that's a heavy lift because that lady's wordy. Her vocabulary is big. She's wordy. And I'm sure she's gotta like lay groundwork Then explain, then apologize. It's like a whole thing.

[A]

All right. Tracy says, Dear elr, specifically Rosenberg and friends of the show.

[D]

Okay.

[A]

After reflecting on my previous message to Rosenberg and on the feedback from the fought members, I want to offer a personal, sincere apology to you, Rosenberg, and any newer and long term supporters of elr. Please accept my apology. My response was rooted in how certain statements landed with me in the moment without taking Rosenberg's history or context into account. While it's true that the new format limits our listening time together, I should have been more mindful of your past experiences and your lived experiences. I recognized that I became caught up in my immediate feelings and judgment, and I take full responsibility for that tone, for the tone that resulted. It was unfair to the fought members who felt disappointed or offended by my tone of delivery. I also apologize. I value this community and it was never my intention to come across as superior, dismissive or disrespectful. I'd also like to share a brief context about my writing style. As a black woman who left high school after ninth grade, earned a GED while pursuing my education, and continues to be mentored with plenty of tough love about how I present myself in professional spaces, I am deeply aware of the scrutiny that often comes with being black in these environments. Because of that reality, I put great care and attention to my written communication. Professional writing is a skill I've honed through the years of being slapped on the wrist. Personal growth and discipline. It's not meant to be pretentious or performative. It is simply part of how I've learned to navigate and show up. I remain committed to my accountability and awareness, and I acknowledge when the impact of my words outweighs my intended message. I find it amazing that Tracy took on all of the things that she was asking for me to do. Essentially, that's like the definition of putting your money where your mouth is. She's saying, like, hey, we just need you to be. And I wasn't offended by her message, by the way. But I want you, Rosenberg, to be hyper aware of who you are, where you are, what you bring to the table when you speak, and try your best to avoid the blind spots that you have. And she actually just then did that for herself.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

That's very. That's very rare.

[D]

We are growing and learning now.

[A]

We got a lot of smart people out here. We got a lot of smart people out here.

[D]

And if you're, you know, like me and you hear a bunch of words in an email, it's Just like, yo, really, lady? But that's my inner voice. And we learned that. That's my inner voice. And if I.

[A]

You don't have Tourette's, though, so you can't just lash.

[D]

I can't. I can't. It right. I have to filter that. Damn it.

[B]

All right.

[D]

The privilege.

[A]

Nah, but we got a few about me and the Epstein stuff in here.

[D]

We'll get to that after Laura. You guys want to go to a voice, you know, first before Laura goes?

[B]

Yeah, sure.

[D]

This is Janzuli. Peace.

[C]

Peace, gang. This is Yonsley from the A. Yonzeli. Been checking in and tuning in for years. Big, big, big spot right here. You know what I mean? All right, so I'm gonna get to the gist of it now. I think you guys should create a segment for smaller artists and independent artists, right? I know how Ebro can be sometimes. You got to be popping, you got to be doing something. Yada, yada, yada, yada. Yo sound like a label head. But anyway, I know you guys get flagged for music that's, you know, controlled by the labels and whatnot. This is a way where you don't get flagged. And I get it. You guys got plans. I understand. I get it.

[A]

Cool.

[C]

I'm just trying to find a way to support the smaller and independent artists like myself. Of course, I'm gonna shamelessly plug myself in there. Be honestly on all platforms. Check me out. But outside of that, I think that you guys should, like, figure out a way to support, you know, younger and smaller artists. Maybe like, have artists sending their work. You guys tally it down to 10, and they had the Fox tally it down to number five, and they had the Fox tally down to two.

[D]

And that's a lot. You got people.

[C]

The winner gets an interview. Maybe like a five minute interview or something. Maybe a written article of some sort

[D]

written

[C]

something to push the new artist, new wave of artist, new crop of artists, you know? So just think about that. Tell me what you think. Checking out.

[D]

Peace.

[A]

Peace.

[C]

And tell them Yazuli said that.

[D]

Hey, Yazuli, thank you for your voice note. Some. Some good ideas, but I. I want to pong this back to you, ping it back to you. What do you think, people tuning into the ELR show, what do you think is in it for them? The people who are giving us their free time for us to expose them to artists that they have never heard of and songs they have never heard of. The. The double whammy. Not just a song you've never heard of, but an artist you've never heard of. Because sometimes, you know, if I say, hey, here's a new J. Cole. It's a song you never heard of.

[A]

Artists, you heard the artist.

[D]

There's a little bit of equity there. You may give us some time and be a little patient with it. If it's an artist and a song you never heard of. Sometimes it's hard to keep people's attention.

[A]

Hell yeah.

[D]

Keeping Rosenberg's attention with a 45 second clip from a person talking about a subject he actually cares about, but he doesn't know them. He's tuning out.

[B]

Don't look at me.

[A]

It happened yesterday. Let's say it happens all the time.

[D]

But I just want. I'm pinging that back for the independent artists and everyone out there. Not saying Yazuli's ideas weren't great, but that's something that we have to think about when we're thinking about bringing content to this platform.

[A]

Well, I think. I think what you're going to get is a couple of things. I think once, once I once. First of all, Ebro is already. We already have like Ebro's Conversation with Rock Marcy is in our YouTube channel. Right. Like, there's already things from Ebro's Apple show that's music related you could get. When I start my new Real Late show, which I'm very close to, I'm gonna put the video inside our Ebro Laura Rosenberg channel. So I'm gonna like. We're gonna have ways within the channel and community, but in our main morning show, unless there's like some song that one of us is like, yo, everyone's gonna love this song. Like the new Vibes Cartel, right? Everyone. Yo, I really think y' all should hear 30 seconds of this. I think we can do stuff like that occasionally if we're confident it's really a banger.

[D]

But in general here too, about Real Late is the ish or something.

[B]

Yeah, I saw it. I saw it.

[A]

But then he goes in that. That ends up being a deeper.

[D]

Yeah, but there was just ahead, the headline was Real Late is the ish. But anyway, I wanted to. Why you're bringing up real slate.

[A]

Yeah, Marlon. Marlon said that.

[D]

That.

[A]

Yeah, but he still comes for me.

[D]

But that's okay. He likes relays, which means that he loves you. You see what I'm saying? It's almost like you're. You're. You're the United States, you're Israel. People who really love you. No, people who really love you are going to continue.

[A]

I am not I. That is not.

[D]

They are patriotic.

[A]

I don't.

[D]

It's called Rosenberg patriotism.

[A]

I don't like that comp at all.

[B]

No, you just did.

[A]

Can we choose another country? All right, but here is the Marlon message. He says. He said, what's up, Rosenberg? First off, real latest flames. I've been sitting on this so he gets that out of the way quick. I've been sitting on this since you spoke on Kai Sinat's million follower milestone. Initially, I wanted to say that since black people don't often get enough positive news, when a young kid accomplishes something amazing, you should just lay out and let him celebrate. I stayed quiet then because I thought I was being oversensitive, but your recent comments have brought those feelings back to the surface. Let me just pause real quick and say I don't disagree with him on that. I thought about that afterwards. Sometimes my old negative. I'm sick of the Internet. It's. It's a bad play. When really the main thing we're celebrating is that a young black kid from the Bronx is rich now and he's being positive and he's doing it without being an A hole.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

Which is what a lot. Unlike Aiden Ross and all of these other A holes.

[D]

That's right. So.

[A]

And. And Sneako and Frico and Nico and all these people. Not. Sorry, not Nico, but you get the idea.

[D]

Who's Nico?

[A]

I don't want New York Nico to think we're taking a shot.

[D]

Wait, that's the only Nico? No, I reached out to Nico to

[A]

come on the program.

[D]

201 interview.

[A]

Yeah, that'd be good.

[D]

I'd love to have New York Nico up here.

[A]

We can get him up here. Anyways, so I just want to say real quick, I do agree with you about that Kai Sinat show. I remember it well. I didn't love my take that day hearing your take President's Day on the Best of Show regarding how black people should feel about Shabuzzi's misstep. I don't know if I said how black people should feel, I think, but whatever. An apology really got under my skin. Then hearing your comments last week, I felt I had to holler at you. Sometimes you just have to sigh. Bow, we all have blind spots. I have them regarding women's concerns and Jewish issues. And while I try to stay quiet and listen when others explain their perspectives to me, white people have blind spots when it comes to black culture and feelings. At times you come across almost as arrogant as Andrew Schultz.

[D]

Yikes.

[A]

Idiots. Like him not being able to see how evil Trump is is why he's the president. Now your comments about these freak eating freaks eating kids, bro, you gotta stop and think before you get all amped up about some of the issue things. I wasn't even watching the video. I listened to the podcast. But I get the sense that if you just take a glance at Laura Stiles, you'll know when to stop talking. This is probably unfair, but one, if you're gonna be in the black market, you might want to shut your and listen. Two, welcome to being the minority because Bigs always have to do the dance. For the record, I don't think you're racist at all. You just have blind spots that that many men, especially white men, fail to recognize. I have love for you, but I'm asking you to occasionally step back and listen to black people on these topics. Yo, Marlon, I'm sorry, I gotta respond to this, okay? I have to step back and occasionally listen to black people. Are you aware that my profession in life is listening to Ebro? This is literally my profession.

[D]

But I'm not black people. I'm just a black person. And I'm not even black enough for all black people. So I don't know if that counts.

[A]

Okay, but don't say, act like I never sit and listen and hear what people are saying. And the comp that he just made between the Kai Sinhat thing, which I thought was a valid thing, that was me being a white guy with a blind spot. Like, hey, you're not thinking about the fact that black people are excited because an opportunity like this for a black kid is such a rare thing. Right? That is a fair and reasonable thing. Copying that to my skepticism about the deepest, darkest things about the Epstein files and the algorithm is a, in my opinion. You guys, tell me what you want. I think that's a very raw comp.

[D]

Well, he's not comping. I don't think he's comping.

[A]

So why do I have to side bow about the Epstein things? How is that a black white thing?

[D]

No, no, no. I don't think that. I don't think that's what he's saying here. I think he was saying Cybow about that. But then the Epstein piece is just about you knowing when to not talk. I don't think it's. I don't think it's people. Both are black. I don't think both are black.

[A]

It's about knowing when I need to not talk.

[D]

That's really worth it.

[A]

I mean, unfortunately, I have A show that I'm not getting paid for, for me to talk on. Okay.

[D]

And I. And. And I just want to say, Marlon and the rest of the people who want Rosenberg to side bow. I don't want him to side bow. It's great content.

[A]

What are you talking about? What are we doing here?

[D]

And. And it provokes all of us to have emotion towards the program and things. Other things that make you agree or disappoint is crazy.

[A]

Y' all are violent.

[D]

No, but see, here's the problem, and I'm glad you jumped straight to this, that you were passionate about defending the things that didn't seem necessarily valid about the Epstein files. Not specifically the Epstein files and what's going on in EP files as a thing, but because we were debating it with emotion, borderline arguing.

[A]

I didn't feel that we were really arguing, but people did.

[D]

But that's the way it was received because there was, you know, we were talking loud and going back and forth for a period of time. Time. They received it as you were basically negating everything that we're hearing about in Epstein files. When really what you were saying is some of the craziest, most egregious things when they're not investigated, validated, and from a credible source can send people to a place of, like, all of this is craziness, and they start to ignore.

[A]

Correct. And it becomes mush. Instead of just saying, let's pursue. And at first. At first, let's pursue the most valid, credible things that we have a chance to really be effective on. I'm not ruling out. And then Ebro, you know, he presented really things that made it a really compelling conversation and brings up the history of this country and the horrible things that have been done.

[D]

Well, no. And not even this country in the world. Human beings in the world. The capacity of human beings to do some of the most evil things.

[A]

And for the record, those things happened to my people in the Holocaust. I am aware of these things. I know. That doesn't mean, though, that because you got a video in your algorithm where the person went, look at this here and look at this here and look at this here. That doesn't mean that it's really trending towards. That part is real. It doesn't. And that's not me saying I think the Epstein files should be of chief importance. And one of the reasons I was so hot about Cash Patel being in the damn locker room is because the fact that he, of all people who should be the. The person who's after this is Sitting there chugging beers with Team USA directly offends me. You can be offended, upset, and distraught about the Epstein files without believing every single video that hits your algorithm people.

[B]

Yeah, I think that's fair.

[D]

That's fair.

[A]

Some of this started in QAnon. Some of it led to the pizza place in D.C. that those people on the right were sure that's where Hillary Clinton had the child rape thing. Guys, it meets somewhere in the middle. And it's not all true, but it's

[D]

also not not impossible.

[A]

It's not impossible. Sure.

[D]

And I think that's where people took our debate. They took it as you were on some. This didn't happen. And I was on some. It's possible it could. And I'm not not believing.

[A]

But you also are not going into rooms. Just to be clear, Ebro's also not going into rooms on the weekend when he sees people party, man. Yo, y' all know they're eating people down there?

[D]

Well, depends on the party. There's some. Some gatherings. I'm walking right in like, yo, my dude, yo, they out here eating people again.

[A]

But I think that while people are

[D]

coming, and I never stop while people

[A]

are coming after me. And there's another one. I'll just hit this one back to back.

[D]

Well, I want to say something else too, about that debate too.

[B]

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[D]

Experian There was another piece of that conversation where for me it delved into us thinking because these people were accomplished financially and accomplished politically, that it errs on the side of they likely didn't do it.

[B]

No, I don't believe that.

[A]

No, it's. But that's the opposite. Yeah, people are using.

[D]

That's the tone of the combo all the time.

[A]

I hear what you're saying, but to me, the problem with the tone, I'm

[D]

telling you how I received it in the moment. That's what I was hearing, which prompted me because I.

[A]

Because I said it feels unreal. Some of these things are unrealistic.

[D]

And I'm like, why?

[A]

No, it's unrealistic because the idea. The idea of the people that are in these rooms wouldn't have been caught up and there wouldn't have been. It's not because of who they are that it's impossible or less likely. It's simply because of how egregious the things are that it would have made

[D]

it to this many people. And also, how about this?

[A]

And by the way, they're turning around and going, well, Ebro, you should know, your friends are doing it. It's Jay Z, it's Michael.

[D]

But that's doing it. It. So that's the part that really triggers you, is it slides into people believing that just because you're wealthy and accomplished that you are automatically. But they do. And that is that there are some people who are there. And I get why you would say that, but it also. Which is what triggered me, slides into Because. And this is why it's confusing and we should have these convos because you're accomplished, because you have, you know, some sort of scholastic accomplishment, royal accomplishments and whatever that. Now it can't be.

[A]

No. Right. I hear that. I hear why you. That would trigger you.

[D]

Right. You see what I'm saying? And both are. What am I trying to say? Both are.

[A]

Are. Are possible or not possible.

[D]

Yeah. And here's another thing, and I. I don't know about you guys, if you're here. The emails are so crazy. The ones I've seen and I haven't seen them all. I'm honestly at times like, yo, y' all was doing this on email.

[B]

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[D]

Like, I've slid into that place many times where I'm like, wait, is this all a trap?

[A]

Hold on. That part's so important. And here's the thing. Here comes Rosenberg defending it.

[D]

These people.

[A]

Jeffrey Epstein's job was to professionally ensnare and trap people.

[D]

Yes.

[A]

Not every email he sent, if you'll notice, some of them he sends, they don't reply.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

He's just saying, like, yo, what about the Blah, blah, blah. Cuz his job was to get people caught up to have it on them. You can tell if you read these emails and all of you claim you've read every single one. If you read the emails, you could tell sometimes he's just talking ish and trying to get people.

[D]

He's trapping people.

[A]

That's what the job is. So then if we turn around and he knew he was gonna be gone, either dead or this was gonna get. How about this?

[D]

They're saying that the reason he even went after Prince Andrew. And in, in, in Britain and I, we played a clip earlier this week. They're saying that he went after him because he knew Prince Andrew was an idiot. And when Prince Andrew was given a job that they give to royals to work in the government to kind of like justify their pay. Like because the royals in England they takes taxpayer dollars, like they still get money from the taxes paid. So sometimes they make the royal children and people work jobs on some like,

[A]

yo, you got to earn it in some way.

[D]

You gotta earn it in some way. And the job that he was on from 2011 to 2016, he blew like $4 million. And that's when he was talking to Epstein. And Epstein went after him during that time because they knew he was a bumbling idiot and ensnared him into the whole messing with kids, man.

[A]

And that's not you defending and saying that Andrew didn't do anything. No, it's saying that. But he was specific target by Epstein.

[D]

The same way, by the way, the same way that the whole Trump thing there, you know, there's talk of that, that the reason this whole Trump Epstein thing is because Trump's a goddamn idiot.

[A]

No, I think with Trump, he got in, I think he got halfway in and at some point got hip to, oh my God, I'm getting, I'm getting caught up here. But his instinct was to do it because it's like hot young girls, because

[D]

they were already on that type of time that's already on that side feeding the, feeding the beast.

[A]

But Trump being dumb, but probably slightly less dumb than Andrew, when he got into it and was at the parties at some point might have looked around and been like, oh, oh, but he'd already done it. He'd already been there, he'd already been partying. And then he made up the whole, I kicked him out of Mar a Lago because he was trying to steal the girls who worked there when really maybe you were setting him up with the girls who worked there.

[D]

We don't know we don't know. We don't know if we're gonna find out. But all of that, that the, the reason we get as heated as y' all are hearing and seeing is because it is a very crazy issue that has basically killed, abused and taken advantage of the most vulnerable in society, which is young women and most of them are poor women from poor families. If you really do the math on it right then you have the most powerful subverting law moving around, getting sweetheart deals, being elected in the public office right now and then playing in their voters faces. Remember, a lot of people are mad right now because Trump, Cash Patel, Pam Bondi swore that this Epstein thing was a part of their campaign. This was a part of their whole elect us. We're going to fix this, we're going to find this thing out.

[A]

Which is so insane that they ever did that when they knew they were going to end up.

[D]

No, that's why they, they did it. If you really know about this type of movement, the reason they go as hard to say they aren't a thing and they're going to do a thing is because they're. How many times have you seen, man, when you look at religious leaders, bro, and they're judging people's personal lives, how often does it turn out that they're the ones doing the crazy ish behind the scenes, the ones who act so perfect, the ones who would never. The ones who are judging everyone else. It always comes out that they're the ones actually doing the thing and they would have got away with it if it wasn't for you meddling kids.

[A]

That's right.

[D]

That's Scooby effing do, man.

[A]

Yo, it's literally, I'm trying to understand this mentality. It would be like me walking around my house being like, yo, I. I

[D]

just hate hip hop.

[A]

No, I just know it. I can't believe. Natalie, there are people who are going into fridges when they have like whipped cream and at night when no one's around, they're grabbing the whipped cream, they're taking the lid off and they're just,

[D]

they're just eating it.

[A]

It's disgusting, these people that they do this and then get this at the end when it's almost empty, they may inhale a little bit like a pathetic loser and get a little high off it, throw it away and go right to bed. She'd be like, wow, that's really descriptive. I know. People do this, this.

[D]

Wait, did you just. God, tell her

[A]

I've done the whip it. I I've done it. There's not that much whip it left at the end, cuz you've already eaten the whole thing. Right, but I've taken that last n. The last hit though. It will. It is enough to make send you let me. Oh my God, no.

[D]

Speaking of that, bro, after Salasi's party, where we have some beer, man, I can't have beer in the house, man. I love a beer. I love a cold beer. I don't.

[A]

Did you go to the hospital?

[D]

No, it doesn't send me to the hospital.

[A]

Okay, good.

[D]

I just. I can't not drink it.

[A]

Right. What kind of beer was it? Oh, you had the Sapporo Corona.

[D]

Sapporo Stella.

[B]

You can't have it in your fridge.

[D]

There's things I don't keep in the house because I just.

[A]

Yeah, that's right.

[B]

Right, right.

[D]

But like hard out. I got walls of.

[A]

Yeah, because.

[D]

Because I'm not drinking tequila.

[A]

It's aggressive. That's aggressive. But a beer.

[D]

A beer is like psychologically small vacation. Like that Corona commercial where they just show the beach. It worked on me. Full stop. Full stop.

[A]

That's. That's so true.

[D]

True.

[A]

Because you're like, oh, it's the end of the day. It's Thursday. Oh, tomorrow.

[D]

Just sit down, have a beer.

[A]

It's like I'm relaxing.

[D]

And one. I have two. I'm gonna have to quick.

[A]

400 now.

[D]

So washed. I had two. The other night was a Monday night. What's today? Yeah, Monday night. Tuesday night, maybe it was. And I was like, whoa, two beers. Whoa.

[A]

Especially if you don't have a full stomach.

[D]

No, I was sitting down, eating. Oh, I had some root. Went out and picked up Ruth Chris before the blizzard hit.

[A]

Whoa.

[D]

You know what I'm saying?

[B]

Okay, okay.

[D]

That was the move.

[A]

Classy. Ruth's Chris. Remember my man didn't used have red meat. Now he's driving by Ruth's Chris for a quick stake. Em.

[D]

Yeah. Once a week.

[A]

All right. Charleroi. You've been waiting. You have an email team.

[B]

Let me see. This one's from Desiree. This is a family matter suggestion.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

All right. Long time fat here. So glad that I'm able to keep hearing and seeing you guys. I've been listening since my mom would put you on the radio while driving me to high school. But I missed the bus. I listened through my college commute to my many, many jobs as I found my career. And now I listen as a new mom of. Of a six month old baby.

[D]

Congrats.

[B]

I've watched y' all grow and I've grown with y'. All. My favorite segment is definitely Family Matters. It's nice to see and hear the daily struggles and beauties of parenting. So I have a suggestion. It would be so cool to bring family during Family Matters. How about bring your child to work Queen?

[D]

Oh, that'd be like.

[B]

Let's hear from the children and or parents perspective. Seeing the little ones like Kenza, Selassie and MJ and the Stew would be adorable. And of course, Issa the boss. Anyway, keep it at the family. Even though. Listen to the shots. Even though the late starts, technical difficulties and delayed merch. El army is here and strong.

[D]

That's crazy.

[B]

We ride or die. But don't call me to get chatted trouble though, because I don't answer the phone.

[D]

Hilarious.

[A]

Yo, that's, you know, that's, you know, we'll do a family day one day, I think.

[D]

So we gotta catch it like spring break maybe.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe Mother's Day time.

[D]

Mother's Day might make sense.

[A]

Yeah, that could make sense.

[D]

Getting everybody to the stew for 8am and being on time with no technical difficulties.

[A]

We. We were doing better this week. Bounce back this. It's been a good week.

[D]

Been a strong week.

[B]

We'll plan. We'll plan. That's a good idea. I like it.

[D]

Well, listen, that was Freedom Friday. I don't have an outro.

[A]

Fox Friday.

[D]

F Friday. I don't have an outro for that, but it was damn good. It was damn good. And now it's time. Hey, yo, it's time for the gurus, Rosenberg.

[A]

All right.

[D]

You know, you are beautiful, Queen eo. Don't ever play yourself. You're not a guru.

[A]

You ignore you. We ignored the. We ignored the email that. That said bring back. Laura never loses.

[D]

I was just looking at that.

[A]

Yeah, but call it Laura be losing.

[D]

Well, we were going to rename it Laura Never Listens.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

And then quiz Laura on things we talked about and see what she actually heard.

[A]

That's so good. Laura Never Listens. And it's like an old story. Or even just this thing we talked about this week could be fantastic.

[D]

You could do it every show.

[A]

You probably could about things that happen in that at the end of the show.

[D]

That could be the closing segment.

[A]

Oh, Laura Never listens. Did she catch. Catch a thing? Oh, no. And by the way, you know, Griff, Griff would love.

[D]

He has all the notes he would

[A]

love to pull out. He could send me the question. Ask Laura what was said about Blah Blah, blah.

[B]

It'll be the most random thing.

[A]

I like that idea. I like that.

[D]

Okay, the original gurus. Gmail dot com, if you would like to write the gurus. I have been knighted as a guru when we. When we got kicked out of our other job. So I'm really like, garbage man, guru, guru, you know what I mean? They needed an extra voice, and so they gave me a look.

[A]

Hey, listen, sometimes the garbage man got

[D]

to come in, you know what I mean? I wonder if Shani wishes he was still on this guru. I saw him on the new flyer that they have a show popping up on YouTubes at 8 o'. Clock. He got his face on the flyer, so that's good. But I don't hear him on the mic.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I hear him some.

[D]

He gets on a little.

[A]

I've heard him some. I don't know how much, but I heard him some.

[D]

But they got him on there. They got cast one on there. It's nice.

[A]

No, it's. It actually is funny. Like, when you see the flyer, it looks crazier because it really does look like we were just subbed out on our show. Like, I never. I have to tell you, I don't think I've ever seen this before. I know. It has happened.

[D]

Absolutely.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Abs, wait, wait, hold on.

[B]

One blocking part is hilarious to me.

[A]

The what?

[B]

How they blocked all of us.

[A]

Being blocked on IG is wild, bro. What? Why block us? What are we going to do? Comment? Did someone comment? I know you did.

[D]

Yeah, but nothing negative.

[A]

Nah, you did. You said not negative, but you talked ish in a. A post, I feel like. Didn't you?

[D]

What did I say?

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

I feel like you commented like a month ago something happened and you said, not, like, bad.

[D]

No, I've commented. Positive stuff only.

[A]

Yeah, that sounds more you. Maybe.

[D]

You know what?

[A]

Maybe I meant me. Maybe it was me. Maybe I said something negative.

[B]

I think it's punk ass Rambo who runs the socials. It doesn't, bro.

[D]

Whoa. Spicy, spicy style.

[B]

He was like, all right, block this one and block this one.

[D]

N. Yo, blocking people on IG is.

[A]

Is.

[D]

Is the most made pussy thing ever.

[A]

Why would you block? I mean, listen, I thought it was bad enough y' all don't want to pay us the money you owe us, but blocking us at least I understand it. You want to keep money. Why are you blocking us on IG after 20 years of service for not even that?

[D]

But why, period?

[A]

It's so, like, just. Why are you doing?

[D]

But that's how brolic we are.

[A]

Is that what it is?

[D]

It has to be.

[A]

They can say it has to be

[D]

how brolic this thing is moving. Because why would it. Why, when you're a heritage brand like that, would you care about individuals who used to work there?

[A]

It. It's very. It's. It's weird.

[D]

Can somebody make sense of it? Let us know what it sounds like. Yeah, let's go. What do you got?

[A]

Rosenberg dropped a P word today. On a Friday too. It's crazy out here. The original gurus. Gmail.com. the original gurus. Gmail.Com. the circle of life. That's how I feel when the song starts. Keep continuing. Hi, Gurus. I live in Rockland county and commute to Harlem for work, and your show is an essential part of my morning commute. We love hearing that. We love that you were still making it to be a part of people's commute. Thank you for keeping things going. My wife and I have been fostering children since 2020 and are happy that most of those children are reunited with their biological families. For two of our boys, it didn't work out for my mom to take them back, so we've adopted them. We love them and still see their mom as much as possible. We're white and our two boys are black. They're now 5 and 6 years old, and we've been trying to introduce concepts of race to them because we want them to be proud of their blackness and because we want them to understand what it means for how they may need to navigate certain spaces safely. Our area of Rockland is depressed, depressingly red, and pro cop. So we've read books and are conscious of bringing black music and culture into our lives, but they don't seem to get that they are black. When I say they're black, they respond with, no, I'm not. I'm chocolate brown. They know that is that it's Black History Month, but don't get that they are part of that amazing legacy of black achievement. I'm happy that they feel belonging in our family family, but don't want them to start to understand their race through a traumatic experience later on. Do you have any recommendations for helping young kids gain racial awareness? I'm wondering how Ebro experienced a mixed race upbringing and when he understood that his race was different from his mom's. Thank you, Max.

[B]

Oh, this is a Ebro guru special.

[D]

Well, mine was a little bit more when I got called the N word in kindergarten by a kid named Manuel. And so I knew at that. At that juncture, I was also most of my extended family, or all of my extended family, except my mom and my brother that I saw frequently in my life were black. So I was raised with mostly the black side of my family.

[B]

Yeah.

[D]

And then just how old are the kids again?

[A]

5, 5 and 6.

[D]

Some it'll. Some of it'll happen just because I, you know, I don't know what they're here. And this is how crazy, crazy this racial thing is. A lot of people think it's complexion, and that does have a lot to do with it, but also a lot to do with his features. Your nose, your lips and your hair texture. You know, when I had hair, people automatically saw me as black because I had, you know, curly, tight, curly Afro hair or I had dreadlocks or something. So immediately, oh, you're black. As soon as I don't have hair anymore because I have. Have white nose, straight nose, and my nose isn't that broad. Oh, are you black? What are you? So that's the way. That's the way it. It just goes like. And we live in a. I didn't make the rules, guys. You got you. You at your house or whoever's listening to this right now. You can finesse, whatever, however you want to do it. But like my dad used to tell me, you going to know you black when the police pull you over. You're going to know you black if you know somebody looks right past you when you have your hand raised in class. Class, you gonna know you black when certain things happen when they talking about slavery and the whole class turns around, looks at you if you're at a predominantly white school. So, you know, there are certain things that'll just happen where you'll be like, oh, all right, I'm black. You know, I mean, and because it's a racial or, excuse me, a racialized society, the kind of way things happen in society and the way they happen to you or kind of of socially engineered by the generations that came before you. And race is about how you show up in society. You can say you're whatever you want to say. You can say, oh, I'm biracial, which I don't really. I don't even really like that term. You know what I'm saying? Some people don't like the term mixed because it has roots in slavery. So they think biracial is. But I'm like, how do you appear in a racialized society as two races? Like, you can't show up as two things. People look at you and they make an assumption. Racist.

[A]

Right, right.

[D]

And they've tried to, like, I think, you know, politics and once again, social engineering has tried to like, finesse the meaning of race a little bit. Because I don't. I believe that the white infrastructure, this is my belief. I believe that the white supremacist infrastructure of the United States of America does not want more people checking the black box. They do not want more people aligning with the descendants of slavery. They do not want more people aligning with the plight of indigenous people and black folks. They don't want that. So they started creating and creating these other categories so that they could kind of subvert that kind of inertia.

[A]

Help the numbers.

[D]

Right. It's a. Because it is a numbers game.

[A]

Game. It's not working for them. But yeah, that's what they're trying.

[D]

But they're trying. And so they come up with these other.

[A]

But you're, but you're not giving advice.

[D]

Yeah, no, the advice is it'll happen. You can put them in environments. You know what I mean? But there will, There will also be a world where they show up and they're hanging out with black folks and black folks are like, what are you.

[A]

But remember, they're. They're black.

[B]

They're adopted.

[A]

They're adopted. They're black.

[D]

No.

[A]

Oh, h. The button.

[D]

No. I thought she, I thought they said they were biracial, though.

[A]

No, mixed. They're white. The kids are black.

[D]

I missed that part.

[A]

And they're just trying to get the kids to understand and be proud and be proud of.

[D]

You got to take them to black stuff.

[B]

Yeah, that's what I think. I think you continue. Cuz they sound like, they sound like good parents that they're trying and they're. It's really important to them that their kids are proud of their blackness. Like she said or he said. I. I wasn't paying attention.

[D]

And they'll start to see it. They'll start to see. They'll start to see themselves differently. And they'll may ask you like, like, why do I look like this and you look like that and you need to know about.

[A]

Well, they know. But they also know who their mom is. Like, they know that they're. They just like, aren't understanding race as a construct yet. But they're, they're little.

[B]

But, but take them.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Take them to, to black exhibits and shows and this. Have them be around black folks too.

[D]

Well, there's also black things like, you know, Jack and Jill where do they say they lived in?

[A]

Rockland county, right?

[D]

Yeah, they were. Rockland County. Yeah. They have Jack and Jill all over the place. So, I mean, that's kind of. Some people say is elitist. I never did it. But that's a. A black gathering of young people and young and. And families. And they do, you know, they. They have, you know, people very well accomplished, scholastically accomplished, business accomplished. People who are involved in Jackie Joe who are black.

[A]

Yes.

[D]

You know, I mean, highly educated. And then there's also just, like, things for black people to get gathering. You should take them to those things.

[A]

Yeah. Or just watch like, old episodes of Def Comedy Jam. Madea movies. No, listen.

[D]

No, maybe not.

[A]

All right, listen.

[D]

But you can do that also.

[A]

No, you know what I was thinking about when Ebro is going through the whole thing, like, you're. Ebro was giving the serious things about, like, they're gonna know they're black. I was thinking about, you remember in. Do you see the. Me, myself and Irene, when Jim Carrey is the father of the three kids, one of which is Anthony Anderson.

[D]

That's right.

[A]

He doesn't know that he's not the father. And they're all sitting around watching Deaf Comedy Jam. The kids are all sitting in front. It's just a ridiculous playing.

[D]

But you know. And you know that. But you know, that's from like, Steve. Steve Martin, the jerk. Remember the jerk?

[A]

Right.

[D]

The same premise where Steve Martin is like, you're my family, and he's got to, like, leave and they're all. The whole family's black.

[A]

Yeah.

[D]

And he's not really picking up on the fact that he's not black. Black.

[A]

Exactly.

[D]

But there it is, man.

[A]

That's it.

[D]

By the way, man, society is a mfer, man. It'll. It'll definitely do a number on these kids. So you got to just be there to love them. That's the other part. You got to be there to love them. Because there's all different types of stuff when you're dealing with racial dynamics when you have white parents. You know what I mean? Like times. There was times, like, I'd be embarrassed to show up with my mom because she was white. And the kids was going. The black kids was going, oh, your mom's white. You know what I mean? And now you gotta. Did. And it wasn't so much that I was embarrassed of my mom. It was just kind of like, now the spotlight is on you, and now you have to deal with a thing that's the. That's the real kind of thing about being different. And I'm sure people with differences have experienced this is when you show up and the spotlight is on. And now you can't just be like everybody else for whatever reason. But long term, if you. You have family members that can help you stand in your truth and tell your story and be confident and be loved and know you're loved, you build confidence. And long term, it helps you actually be a stronger person and embrace your differences.

[A]

But it is. It is.

[D]

It's a. It's. It's work, though, bro.

[A]

And it is. It does remind me, though, of, like, what the privilege is of your parents not being different.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

Like, you know, getting picked up, your parents come around. Your parents just look like. Like the other white parents.

[D]

I mean, it's little things like when you and your parents have, like, my mom and I had a different last name.

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[A]

Right, right. That's.

[D]

That's a. That's another thing where the. Even the teacher's like, you're his parent. And you're like, yeah, that's my mom. They're like, wait, hang on. Yeah, you're like, that's my mom, bro. Yeah. But now everybody else is looking like, wait.

[A]

They're like, are you kidnapping that lady? Like, that's my mother.

[D]

Well, I told you guys that story in the grocery store before.

[A]

That's how they thought you were, like, harming your mom.

[D]

Yeah, well, they were like, is. Is this guy bothering you? And she's like, that's my son. He' 14.

[A]

Now, that's so.

[B]

That's so crazy, so wild.

[A]

But think about uncomfortable and nasty.

[D]

But that's, you know, it's real stuff. It really happens. So there it goes.

[A]

Good luck, though. You sound like lovely people.

[D]

That's right. Keep doing the work. It's gonna take some time. It's gonna be a long journey, and that's.

[B]

Okay, so say the gurus.

[A]

Listen, I watched Six Feet under, and David and Keith adopted two kids.

[D]

Kids.

[A]

But Keith was black, so, you know, David's white, but Keith was black. But the kids were black. Either way, they figured all out eventually.

[D]

There you go. You know, that's a great. Email the original gurus. Gmail dot com for everybody else. Happy Friday.

[A]

Oh, man.

[B]

Subscribe.

[A]

If you're at Elimination Chamber, Say hi. Look for me. I'll be there.

[D]

Wait, so you haven't found out if you got a broadcast outside inside yet?

[A]

No, no, but either way, I'll be someplace where you could find. Like, when we set up, we're always, like, around a crowd. So every once in a while.

[D]

Look at that Chicago windshield factor. The windshield.

[A]

The windshield. Oh, no.

[D]

That's the tell. Maybe it won't be windy.

[A]

Just hit the slot. Stop. It's February. That's right.

[D]

E bro. Laura Rosenberg. Another week, some more fun, some more debating. And y', all, we really appreciate y' all riding with with us on the ELR Show. Subscribe and share and like and do all the things. Laura, I have a merch update on Monday. The snowstorm threw a monkey wrench and a lot of things.

[A]

Got a new design. It's crazy.

[D]

Nah, listen, the we got. We got to drop another one in March, right? Yeah.

[B]

Yes.

[D]

Laura wants us to slow down.

[A]

Well, this one, this next one's going to be the hammer.

[D]

That's the one.

[A]

I think it'll be the biggest hammer so far, in my opinion.

[D]

There you go. Don't call it a podcast.