51.) Madness at Gracie Mansion + A-Rod's White House Trip (3/9/26)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show

Episode 51: "Madness at Gracie Mansion + A-Rod's White House Trip" (3/9/26)

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode is a dynamic blend of cultural commentary, political critique, and hip hop debate anchored by Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, and Peter Rosenberg. The hosts dissect the chaos surrounding a protest at Gracie Mansion, explore the layers of recent White House guest lists (with a focus on A-Rod's visit), reflect on religious performativity in US politics, and dive into the timeless question: does Drake have a classic hip hop album? Throughout, the crew maintains an authentic, conversational tone—balancing humor, skepticism, and deep concern over current cultural and political trends.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

Remembering Biggie & Hip Hop Memorialization

• The show opens with a shout-out to March 9th as a pivotal date in hip hop—the anniversary of The Notorious B.I.G.'s death. Ebro and Rosenberg discuss the impact of memorial dates in hip hop culture.
  • Quote (Ebro, 02:19): "I'm not a big death day guy, Laura. I'm a big birthday person."
  • Rosenberg recalls the role of Canibus’s legendary lyric in cementing "March 9th" in hip hop memory.

Personal Updates & Family Life

• The hosts share lively, relatable updates:
  • Rosenberg spent time with family, discovered the competitive world of pinball ("Now you're gonna buy a pinball machine and go with your jukebox. Fact." - Ebro, 03:57).
  • Laura describes attending a Bad Bunny-themed kids party and reveals plans for a collaborative, family-friendly listener event.
  • Ebro jokes about his need for "family-friendly" events—meaning events that end early.

Kids' Parties, Modern Parent Life, and “Family Friendly” Culture

• Detailed back-and-forth about children's parties, their costs, and the rise of “kids club” events.
  • Laura: Entry can reach "$50... for everyone, you, the child." (07:41)
  • The group humorously debates whether these kid parties are just adult parties without grinding or alcohol—with Rosenberg remarking on niche pinball knowledge and Ebro lamenting rising prices for everything.

Global Politics: Oil Fires, Religious Extremism & US Governance

• Ebro connects rising gas prices to geopolitical turmoil, referencing fires in Tehran and shifting oil shipments through the Strait of Hormuz (08:00+).
• Extended Segment (08:13–11:46): The hosts discuss political spectacle—specifically prayer sessions at the White House, and the blurred line between church and state.
  • Rosenberg (10:35): “You have commanders on bases telling people this is a religious war. How would that be different than people in other places saying that we're doing this for Allah? ...The only difference, the word God or Allah.”
  • Ebro: “We are a religious leaning towards a religious extremist government like the ones we claim are a problem all over the globe.”

Political Guest Lists: Condoleezza Rice, A-Rod, and Opportunistic Alliances

• The hosts discuss Trump's sports summit and bizarre guest list, focusing on A-Rod's invitation.
• Rosenberg reviews Trump's decade-old critical tweets about A-Rod and marvels at the performative nature of “photo ops” with presidents.
  • Laura notes the fluidity of celebrity endorsements (e.g., A-Rod/JLo endorsing Biden but attending Trump events).
  • Quote (Rosenberg, 17:00): “A Rod's never put himself out there in a big way about anything political or cultural.”
  • They reflect on how business interests and optics outweigh the past, with Ebro summarizing, “No, these aren't real colleagues in real life. This is opportunistic alliances most of the time.” (16:47)

Chaos at Gracie Mansion: Far-Right Protests, Explosives, and Political Fallout

• A detailed breakdown of a violent, bigoted protest outside NYC's Gracie Mansion.
  • The group critiques organizer Jake Lang (a “grifter” and “media opportunist”), asking “What is an anti-Islam protest?” and noting, “That sounds like some sort of hate gathering.” (19:53)
  • Aftermath: A countergroup reportedly threw (non-detonating) explosives; both “agitating” and “violent” parties were arrested.
  • The hosts challenge the legitimacy and motivations on both sides, speculating about coordinated media spectacle and mysterious financiers. (24:15)
  • Rosenberg highlights how politicians and their families (Mamdani and wife) are targeted for their associations and even past social media likes.

US-Israel Relations, Political Donors, and Billionaire Influence

• Ebro & Rosenberg analyze a viral clip about the Adelson family (Dallas Mavericks owners) and their profound influence on Trump’s Israel policies—specifically the US embassy move to Jerusalem and the ongoing war.
  • Quote (Ebro, 29:09):“And the fact that Kyrie Irving is on the Mavericks blows my mind. I'm like, did they talk to each other?”
  • They wrestle with the uneasy relationship between billionaires, sports franchises, and controversial global politics.

Hip Hop Debate: Does Drake Have a Classic Album?

• A vibrant, in-depth debate grows out of social media chatter: "Is there a universally agreed-upon classic Drake album?"
  • Ebro's comment on “Rap Life Review” was taken out of context, fueling “OVO ho” (Drake’s fanbase) backlash.
  • Rosenberg lays out the distinction between “personal classics” and albums that reach universal “hip hop classic” status (36:00+).
  • The hosts agree:
    • Classic status is conferred by “a unanimous celebration,” not just chart positions.
    • Jay-Z’s “Blueprint,” Nas’ “Illmatic,” and Wu-Tang’s “36 Chambers” examples.
    • Drake’s output is massively influential, but lacks that unanimous classic consensus.
      • Rosenberg (36:24): “If you go, which one is it? And there's a debate about which one, to me, it starts to be like, well, then there's probably not one.”
    • They discuss fandom toxicity and paid “mouthpieces” muddying nuanced discussion (42:08+).
  • The conversation expands to Kendrick Lamar, Outkast, Dr. Dre, and the mechanics of classic album canonization.

Rundown: Quick Hits in Music, Sports, and Viral News

• Stephon Diggs Released: Laura spotlights NFL drama tied to celebrity relationships—“Wasn't paying attention before Cardi B!” (46:44)
• Britney Spears’ DUI Arrest: The hosts react to her recent struggles, with concern over possible substance issues.
• Rihanna House Shooting: All are alarmed by the news of a woman firing into Rihanna’s mansion, skepticism over police claims of a random incident.
• 50 Cent vs. T.I.: Commentary on 50’s new theme songs, “surviving T.I. and Tiny” doc announcement, and hip hop beef escalation. (“Doc for doc, song for song, whatever you want.” – Ebro, 51:57)

Social Commentary & Viral Moments

• Islamophobia on Planes and US society: The crew is incredulous after a Southwest flight is diverted and searched because a Muslim man’s prayer alarm sounded—exposing lingering Islamophobia. (55:08–57:03)
  • Ebro (56:07): “Is it September 14, 2001? What is going on?”
  • “That's a quarter of the planet to you. And me.” —Ebro on the Muslim world’s size (56:43)
• Viral fights, algorithm-driven rage-bait, and who’s financially benefiting from the spread of divisive, violent videos.

Closing: Obama's Emotional Eulogy & The State of Hope

• Barack Obama’s speech at the Jesse Jackson memorial is played and discussed:
  • Obama laments America turning on itself, celebrates the power of hope and acting on justice.
  • Obama (62:05, voice cracking): “We see science and expertise denigrated, while ignorance and dishonesty and cruelty and corruption are reaping untold rewards... So it may be tempting to get discouraged... But this man ... inspires us to take a harder path.”
• The crew reflects on Obama’s enduring impact and whether he should be more publicly vocal in these troubled times.
  • Rosenberg: “We need someone. He can galvanize people." (65:32)
  • Ebro debates the pros and cons of Obama’s regular presence.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote/Highlight | Speaker | |-------------|------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|--------------| | 02:19 | "I'm not a big death day guy, Laura. I'm a big birthday person." | Ebro | | 07:41 | "It's like $50... for everyone, you, the child." | Laura | | 10:35 | "You have commanders on bases telling people this is a religious war. How would that be different...?"| Rosenberg | | 16:47 | "No, these aren't real colleagues in real life. This is opportunistic alliances most of the time." | Ebro | | 19:53 | “That sounds like some sort of hate gathering.” | Rosenberg | | 29:09 | "And the fact that Kyrie Irving is on the Mavericks blows my mind. I'm like, did they talk to each other?" | Ebro | | 36:24 | "If you go, which one is it? And there's a debate... then there's probably not one." | Rosenberg | | 56:07 | "Is it September 14, 2001? What is going on?" | Ebro | | 62:05-63:47 | [Obama's eulogy lines about hope, fear, and Jesse Jackson inspiring action] | Obama (clip) |

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Important Segment Timestamps

• 03:38: Pinball machine league adventures
• 07:01: Modern kids’ birthday parties and their costs
• 08:13–11:46: Religion, the White House, and separation of church and state
• 14:41: A-Rod at the White House; Trump's old tweets resurface
• 19:19–25:14: Gracie Mansion protest, anti-Islam rally, violence, and NYPD response
• 29:03: Israel, billionaire donors, and US policy maneuvering
• 34:43–44:45: Drake’s classic album debate, hip hop canon, and fan toxicity
• 46:44–52:00: Stephon Diggs, Britney Spears, Rihanna home invasion, 50 Cent beef
• 55:08–57:03: Islamophobia on a Southwest flight, broader social critique
• 62:05–63:47: Barack Obama’s eulogy speech on hope in the face of division

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Tone & Format

The show is a fast-paced, honest, and frequently humorous group conversation. The trio stay true to their roots—irreverent, opinionated, but caring deeply about both culture and their community. They constantly volley between joking camaraderie and serious, even emotional, concern for social and political developments. At every turn, listeners are encouraged to reflect, engage, and, above all, to keep questioning.

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Summary Takeaways

• The episode is a vivid snapshot of March 2026 America: culture, politics, sports, and hip hop intersect—and occasionally combust.
• The hosts dissect the week’s chaos (from Gracie Mansion violence to performative religion in D.C.), but also provide space for lighter fare and timeless debates (Drake’s discography, parties for kids, viral mishaps).
• The group underscores the need for authenticity in leadership, the pitfalls of spectacle (both political and digital), and the complicated dance between personal conviction, public perception, and tribal fandom.
• Listeners leave with both a sharper sense of today’s tangled realities and the warmth of a kitchen table conversation among friends who love culture—and call out its follies.

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like this because then we wouldn't be breaking our necks to do it. You know what I'm saying? Oh, man, oh man, oh man.

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Oh, well, okay.

[B]

Oh man. Listen, I am Ebro, that is Laura, and he is Rosenberg. Listen, first things first. We get to saying rest in peace to the greatest rapper of all time died on March 9th. I mean, he's up there now.

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He's up there.

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I always say I'm not a big death day guy, Laura. I'm not a big celebrate someone's dying day. I'm a big birthday person.

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I prefer that too.

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But the March 9 thing went so crazy because cannabis is lyric.

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Yeah, yeah.

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So here we are where people are throwing parties, having events.

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You can't really fight with March 9th. It's the. It's the. Of all the. In hip hop of all the anniversary days, it's the number one.

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It is what it is. And people say cannabis didn't bring nothing to the game.

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Well, people who say that are idiots anyway.

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Talk to them.

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And who says that, really? I think you just said it. That's the thing. You just said it. You said people, but you said it.

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Nah, cannabis is out here. Shout out to cannabis wherever you are, sir. Living life positive guy.

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Yeah.

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You know what I mean? Rosenberg, how was your weekend?

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The weekend was nice. Weekend was nice. It felt like some time. Like, it felt like I had a couple of days.

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Okay.

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So, you know, my friend Chauncey came to town, we hung out. We had a niece birthday on Saturday.

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All right.

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We did a little.

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A niece birthday.

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Yo, my. My niece's. Natalie's sister's daughter's birthday.

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Got it.

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We did that. So I had a little family home cooking, which is always a good vibe. Went out a little bit. Oh, we played some. We went out on Friday night to whatever restaurant. But then we decided we were like, that was kind of boring. Let's stop and get a drink or dessert or something. And we popped in a spot in our neighborhood that had a pinball machine.

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Okay.

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And we started playing the pinball machine. And then a guy came up and he was like, hey, you're gonna want to do X, Y, and Z with this machine. He was like, I'm sorry. I'm a big nerd. I'm in a league. It's a whole thing. Oh. And then we started playing that pinball machine, bro. And I like, oh, I get it. This is tough. It was a good machine. It was on fire.

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So now you're gonna buy a pinball machine and go with your jukebox. Fact.

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Now you know exact. At some point, it's happening.

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All right. Laura, how was your weekend?

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It was fun. I just. I was hanging out with the fam this whole weekend. I did go to a Bad Bunny theme kids party.

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Oh, I bought my ball.

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That sounds fire, man.

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The kids are going nuts in there. And we had a lot of fots in there, too, which was really nice. It was like, oh, my God, I love the show. Can I take a baby? I'm like, wait, wait. Can't lose my kid. I was like, give me a second.

[C]

Because it was that crazy in there.

[A]

It was crazy in there, but was so cool. And I told them that we are working on a collaboration party with our girl Vashti. I've been talking to her. So we're gonna pick a date so all of us can have a little party and invite our farts and up for kids.

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The kids. The kids party.

[B]

Yeah. Everything will, everything we'll do for the Ebro Laura Rosenberg Experience program show will be family friendly.

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Yeah, I mean everything, Everything, everything.

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Cuz I need to be home about 7:38.

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Yeah, I still don't know if everyone wants every party to be with their children, bro.

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I know, I know, Family friendly. I didn't say you got to bring your, bring your lady, you could bring, you know what I mean, that kind of stuff.

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That's not what family friendly means.

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But sure, yeah, it'll be like, you know, it's not.

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It won't be in a dream strip

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club hookah and yeah, it won't be that.

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All right, cool, cool.

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But anyway, it was a lot of fun and it was really cool.

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What was the general age range for the, the people in the party?

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The kids from toddlers to like 10

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year olds to 10 year olds.

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Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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It was, it ends pre teen. You don't have preteen. Like like 12, 13 years.

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And the ones who were there were with like a little kid, you know, mean, like I saw some teenagers, but they were watching a child.

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And what are the kids? What are the little kids? They just kind of jumping up and down and running around.

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You're dancing on the floor, dancing with each other, jumping. And then they bring out.

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I've never been to a dance party for children before.

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Then they bring out like a giant

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rainbow, like any part.

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Parachute.

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That's not just like any party. Well, why are you being that person?

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It's different.

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How is it like any party?

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It's like any party.

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No, it's not. People grind at parties. People drink at parties.

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First of all, Rosenberg, it's a kid's party.

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Why does he do this?

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There was a bar and people were drinking.

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Adults.

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Adults?

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Yeah, they were grinding.

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Were people grinding on each other? Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

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But hold on. How many parties you been to when they bring out a big rainbow thing and lift it up in the air and people run under it?

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Well, it depends. I've been to those at kids parties

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before, but I've never been to a kid's party. That's why I'm asking.

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Oh, so that's all. I didn't know that. I didn't know you had never been to a kids party before. You have nieces and nephews. I thought maybe I've been.

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Didn't you hear me just say I've never been to a kid's party?

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I missed you saying I've never been to a kids party.

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I think a Lot of people watching have never been to a kids like a party at a club with music. A lot of people haven't done that. It's a new wave.

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Wait, but they have it at regular kids parties. Have like stuff going, you know, balloons, cotton candy, kids dancing.

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That people know that I know.

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Yes, but these kids probably don't have balloons. It's just like a DJ or a band.

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It's a miniaturized club party for kids.

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No, I get that too, but I've. I guess I've. You know, with music playing at a regular kids party, it's not much different. When I was at Vashti, it's not much different than a kid's party. A regular kids party.

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They have like streamers, they have stuff. Kids to play with and dance with.

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Okay, that sounds. That sounds cute.

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It's fun.

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Sounds cute.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. I'm not. I'm not a parent. I haven't done this yet.

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Well, no, but I'm just letting you know it's not that much different. People can hype it like it's different only because it's at a location where you can walk in. But truth be told, if you've gone to like a. I don't know, a. A rented party room at the trampoline spot where somebody brings the Bluetooth speaker and hands kids, you know, has somebody come and twisting balloons and has like a schedule of things for k. Kids to do, it's not that different.

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Well, guess what, I barely even been to those, so.

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And let me tell you these. The way they charge for these parties.

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Well, so that's why they try to make you think they're super different.

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What are they hitting you for that?

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It's like $50. Yes, yes.

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For. For everyone. For each person.

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Everyone. You, the child.

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No, they cake him, bro.

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Yes.

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Everything. Everything's out of control with the, with the prices, bro.

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Well, get ready. They saying your gas prices is about to run up on you.

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Oh, you don't say. I wonder why. Well, why would that happen?

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Well, you know, when you. When you want to start a war in the Middle east, this is what happened. Could.

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It could relate to the video I saw of just fires in. In Tehran with.

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With oil just burning in the streets.

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Just oil burning.

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Oh, well, so 20% of the world's oil comes through that straight of Hormuz that the Iran government has shut down. So that's off the board. However, they say they're allowing Chinese ships through there. So China's going through and getting their oil. Oh, and actively Russia And China are sharing intel with Iran. So that's what this week will. Will present itself to be great. It's going to be a good time. But can I have what they're doing in the White House? Praying for our president. Yo, we're a bunch of religious psychos. You know that. In the United States right now, in our government. You realize that?

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Oh, yeah, I do.

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All right, is everybody clear that that's what's going on?

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Not the president. He's not.

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But he's surrounded by them.

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He's just surrounded by them.

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He believes in nothing.

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Right. But they pretend that he is a religious figure, even though he doesn't. Can't name a Bible verse.

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Let's get that photo. That's.

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I've seen. There are a few. I think those have. More than once. Look at this.

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Lifting up the arms of our president.

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We pray for your continued blessing and favor to rest upon him. We pray for wisdom from heaven to

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flood his heart, his mind.

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I can't believe people believe this.

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Guide him.

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No, people are fine.

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I don't believe. I don't believe that. I don't buy them by grace.

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And your problem?

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Protection.

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You don't believe that some people are buying the most.

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The most religious. Like people who are like, you know, borderline.

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Can't see through. They can't see through anything.

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Right. They're borderline deranged, sure. But like the other people who aren't that religious, they just like him. I don't believe that. They watch us and don't chop. They're like, that's our guy pretending he's religious. They know this.

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They know.

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But they're in, though.

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They don't care. They don't care.

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You know.

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Yo, listen, I came up with the bar. I have the bar.

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What's that?

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This. This is the line.

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First. I have to hit this.

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Congratulations.

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You played. Because just for everyone out there that believes in what this country marketed to you, there was supposed to be a separation of church and state.

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Yeah.

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All of this religion in the. In the. Now you are a religious leaning towards a religious extremist government like the ones we claim are a problem all over the globe. But. Go ahead, Rose.

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Well, no, particularly the every. You know how you always think every Islamic country is like, fundamentalist crazy people and you're attacking them all the time for being. We have to stop these crazy religious zealots that now you're.

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That's what you're doing.

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You have commanders on bases telling people this is a religious war. How would that be different? Than people in other places saying that we're doing this for Allah. That's the only difference. The word God or Allah. That's the big difference.

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Guess what Allah means.

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Oh, God. Okay, so it's all the exact same thing. I realized the other day as we're sitting here right now watching the news and seeing these yo yos and thinking about our future and whether or not we're going to live or die and whether or not our children are safe. I realized that these racists love racism so much. They love their racism so much.

[B]

Rosenberg's new favorite.

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No. They love their racism so much that now Pete Hegseth is deciding the health and safety of our children. Whether or not we will die in the streets and have explosions in our country is now being decided by a Fox News weekend host. Known alcoholic lunatic. Because y' all loved your racism that much.

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Well, but he doesn't promise his Christian nationalist tattoo.

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Of course he does. And he wears this sweet little. Yo, bro. I just want to let you know, Pete, the American flag pocket square. That's not. That's not. It's not.

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Because I'm gonna tell you something, Rosemary. It doesn't consistent with the critique of people's snobbing pocket squares.

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It's not even like a real pocket square. It almost looks like a card that he gets that just has the top of the flag on it, and he sticks it in there, bro. It's just wear a blue or a red pocket square.

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Like you became a suiting specialist around six years ago. You guys started getting your first suits for, like, wwe, espn. Well, not your first suits, but custom ones.

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Yeah, yeah.

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And since then, you've been like, this is a do. And don't.

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Not, not, not.

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Not putting on nice clothes.

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Not like mine are anything. They're not. I'm not like, the highest level. I'm definitely getting the ones that are, you know, shout out to my people, but not.

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It's not about cost. It's about fit. It's about, like, what you're wearing. Yeah.

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Just like they're little things. Although there's another thing that people violate who have way more. Way nicer suits than I have. And yet I see this violated all the time, and it drives me nuts.

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What is it?

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You probably don't notice it, but it.

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I really think this guy's paying attention.

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These cats on TV that keep their suit buttoned when they're sitting. Oh, it says, it's all of them.

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And then you see, I'm going, it's all of them.

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They all think it's the style. They think that the move is you. You button and sit. And I'm like, no, no, it's open and sit.

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Right, right.

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Stand and button.

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Yeah.

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Well, maybe.

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Why are you doing.

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I think some people leave it buttoned when they're sitting so that it looks a certain. They're going for, like, a.

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A tighter.

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They want it to be tighter waist. All I see is the, like, bunchiness.

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Well, no, and not only that, but you see that button struggling. That's what I'm saying. Oh, what about when it's the.

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And when they do the whatchamacallit, the double bre. They have multiple buttons buttoned as they're Senate. Nah, you look nuts. But, yeah, the card. The USA flag card thing is just not.

[A]

So what do you guys. How do you guys feel about the Condoleezza Rice body?

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I have no feelings.

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She popped out of the sports thing, right?

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They said that they saw her going into the White House.

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I think she was at the sports. They had a college sports. Trump's making college sports great again. I don't know what this means. I don't understand. I didn't know what exactly was wrong with college sports or why he's involved, but it was a who's who. The list of people that showed up to the sports thing was tons of different people from different leagues. And Condoleezza Rice, who I believe has been involved in sports in the past several years, like commissioner of a college football playoff committee. She's done this. College Football playoff committee runs or helps run it.

[B]

But she was super. Even when she was on the job as a politician, she was. Wasn't she, like, super involved? Alabama's her team.

[C]

Maybe it feels. It feels right.

[B]

Crimson Tide feels right. She's a Roll Tide type.

[C]

But if you look at the list of people that showed up, you know, it was a lot of different people showed up to sit around.

[B]

No, listen, when you get to. When you get the White House call, whether it was Obama in office or Trump and. Or whoever, mad people show up.

[C]

That's facts.

[A]

A rod was there.

[C]

So I don't quite understand that one. Maybe I didn't. But he's not involved. He's an NBA owner. He's involved in baseball in different ways,

[B]

but maybe he's getting involved in something else.

[C]

I looked at the list, though. He wasn't on the list of the college football people. Oh, he had an experience, but he was there the same day. Yo. The craziest thing was reading the tweets.

[B]

Bless you.

[C]

Excuse Me. Trump's. Trump's anti A Rod tweets. You read those?

[A]

No.

[C]

Oh, my God. Yo. In 2012, yo, your man was diabolical about coming after a Rod.

[B]

Why? What was his problem with a Rod?

[C]

Same thing that regular fans had with him. Like, he was just like, but he went too far because he's Trump. So it was like, you got to drop a rod in the line. It would be like, I read a whole list of them and it was like, you know, April 10, you have to drop a rod in the lineup if you want to win. October 11th, I mean, April 11th, man, this team won't win with a rod. He's not good unless he's on drugs.

[B]

Let me ask you this over and over again.

[C]

He was on his neck.

[B]

I want to shout out to the people that take the time every time to try to bring up things that Trump said in the past and hold

[C]

him to it today like it matters. Congratulations.

[B]

You played yourself.

[A]

It's more fun to watch. Yeah, it's really just more fun to watch. And it's pine the face to whoever.

[C]

It's just laughing at the person. Yeah, it's just like, wow, you ran up, you ran up to see someone. It's not like, it's not like Trump went back. He didn't even. It's not like he respected you enough to go delete tweets.

[A]

Hello.

[C]

It just leaves it out there. Like, yeah, I called you a bitch. Now come up and sit next to me, Listen.

[A]

And then you're there.

[B]

Like, it might be a few rappers that pull up to this show that we've had some things to say about.

[A]

I just think it's different.

[C]

That's different. That's different because he went on a quest. This was his thing. And he's not just saying like, hey, a Rod's struggling. It's like he's no good without his performance enhancing grudge, like, going at his neck.

[B]

But, you know, a lot of these people put all that stuff aside of money and opportunity. They don't really hold on to that stuff. A photo op, there's no real. No, these aren't real colleagues in real life. This is, this is opportunistic alliances most of the time.

[C]

And listen, I, I, I, like a Rod, always had a friendly relationship and think he's treated me nothing but nicely and interviewing and stuff like that. You know, listen, a Rod's never put himself out there in a big way about anything political or cultural.

[B]

Stood for nothing.

[C]

Well, that's that. Didn't you see how I was doing it nice. Didn't you see? I was saying that cleanly.

[B]

I'm not you, though.

[C]

No, I know, but then you just dunked on it and ruined the whole thing for me. I was trying to keep it. Keep it clean.

[B]

Not that we expect. He's a b. I don't always expect people to stand for things. Like, I'm not. Don't. I don't dislike a rod because he wasn't, like, you know, standing up.

[C]

Yeah, but how do you feel that he went and then sat.

[B]

I felt nothing. I wasn't surprised, didn't care. I was like, oh, that makes sense.

[A]

Yeah. When Ricardo showed it to me, I'm like, not surprised.

[B]

Like, why would I be surprised that a rod went and sat next to.

[C]

I guess you're right. I guess it only hits if you thought the person would be someone who wouldn't do that.

[A]

Right.

[B]

And why would you think that about a rod?

[C]

And why would you think that about that?

[A]

Although King Louie hit me and he said that JLo and he. And a rod endorse Biden. That was.

[C]

Oh, yeah, a rod did do it. Yeah, that sounds familiar. The full. But again, again, that doesn't mean.

[B]

But he's also, like you said, he's a partial NBA owner. He's getting in.

[C]

The weird choice for me is Minnesota. You co. Own the Timberwolves.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

The Timberwolves went hard to, like, fight, you know, for the community publicly, at least. They put on that face of, like, we stand with our, you know, immigrant community and we. I don't know, like.

[B]

And now a rod's up there playing cleanup.

[C]

And now a rod's up there. Oh, yeah. So that's what it is.

[B]

Maybe that's what it is. Hey, let me go see the guy. Keep the heat off. You guys keep doing what you're doing, I'm gonna go up here and fall on the sword.

[C]

Oh, yeah. You know what's not a bad call?

[B]

Listen, that's what. Honestly, if you look around, that's what a lot of leadership. That's part of being a leader. You gotta go take the meetings and have the convos to protect the business. Protect the business as well as protect the people so they can continue to do what they're doing. That's part of it.

[C]

But some of it has been that the people have gone up and done the dance so hard that they've normalized dancing for the man.

[B]

That's right. And now a rod went up there one time. So far, we don't know what he's Working on.

[C]

Yeah, you never know because Trump will start being, you know, inviting you back over and over.

[B]

Look, Mom, Donnie played it good.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Mom, Donnie's had two meetings.

[C]

No, listen, he put on his. He put on the shoes. He has a thing he wants to get done or two. And he says, hey, let me grab these shoes, go up here and dance with this man.

[B]

Speaking of Mom, Donnie, they had a protest outside of the Gracie Mansion here in New York City this weekend, which. What's the guy's name? That's the adjective. What's his name? Lang.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

So he's the guy that got punched in the face in Minnesota while he was screaming at black people and trans people. And then black people and trans people saved him from getting his ass whooped because I walked.

[C]

That's who that was.

[A]

And, yeah, I'm like, what? What's up with him? And he reminded me of that. I'm like, oh, my God, the irony.

[B]

Yeah. So he was about to get his ass dragged and for spouting racism, and then black folks was like, no, no, no, no. Chill, chill, chill. Get out of here, bro, before you get your ass whooped. Got him about it. And now he's outside Gracie Mansion. Now, can somebody explain what an anti Islam protest is?

[C]

It doesn't sound like a protest to me. That sounds like some sort of hate gathering.

[A]

Yeah, yeah.

[C]

It implies you're doing something right.

[B]

There's 2 billion people who practice Islam on the globe. What is an anti Islam 2 billion?

[A]

It's a hateful ass protest.

[B]

Like, what are you even doing? And by the way, these are people from many ethnicities, languages, nations. Like, what? What are you even saying?

[A]

And like, what are they like, get him out. What are you saying?

[C]

So the mayor posted yesterday that he said yesterday white supremacist Jake Long organized a protest outside Gracie Mansion. Rooted in bigotry and racism, such hate has no place in New York City. It is an affront to our city's values and the unity that defines who we are. What followed was even more disturbing. Violence at a protest is never acceptable. The attempt to use an explosive device and hurt others is not only criminal, it is reprehensible and the antithesis of who we are. I want to thank the brave men and women of NYPD who acted quickly to keep New Yorkers safe. Our officers ran toward danger without hesitation, demonstrating once again the courage and dedication it takes to protect the city every single day. Because apparently after these racist Islamophobes showed up, then other people showed up and threw explosives at them.

[B]

Is that how it worked?

[C]

That's what the story is.

[B]

Got it.

[A]

At them, at the protesters, quote, unquote.

[C]

That's what the story is. Yes. And then people were coming after Mamdani.

[B]

What did he do?

[C]

Saying, Mamdani condemned the racist protesters, but he didn't condemn the Muslim extremists who came and threw the explosives.

[B]

But he did, though.

[C]

So I think then he put out a statement. Like.

[A]

Like.

[C]

But like, he just.

[B]

You saw this. We just put it up.

[C]

No, no, but I think. I think this statement came a little bit.

[B]

Got it. Okay.

[C]

But I mean, I'm not. I'm not. I have no issue with the timing of the statement. But that's when he put out the statement. He said very clearly, this was bad. This was bad. Let's not do these things. That's the story they're telling. I didn't.

[B]

Now, they arrested the agitators. Apparently the people that they believe through these bombs or were.

[C]

Well, those aren't the agitators, because the agitators are the people who showed up into the racist.

[B]

Well, both of them, whatever they are, they got everybody. Clearly, if you're throwing explosives, you're not an agitator.

[C]

You're beyond an agitator at that point. Yeah. You're about an agitator. The agitators. Yeah. Now you're. You're violent. You're. You're. You're borderline terrorists now. Yeah, yeah. We're no longer agitated.

[B]

Okay.

[C]

Because I was calling the agitator. The bigots who showed up. Those are the people agitating the situation. Right.

[B]

Well, the. But those were. They showed up first. The way I was told, which was the anti Islam thing. Showed up first.

[A]

Yes.

[B]

Then the other people showed up in. Counter to them.

[C]

Correct.

[A]

Are we sure that's.

[B]

That's the story? That's the story. I would honestly believe that both sides were the same, because I don't know what an anti Islam protest is. And who's counter protesting something like, what are you counter protesting? And how did you even know that this was. Like, what is all of.

[C]

That's a great question.

[A]

Yeah. Like, how did you know that that was going down?

[B]

At that moment, in my brain, in my brain, both sides sometimes are working together.

[C]

It's a great point, because why would you.

[B]

So there's a. Hey, there's an anti Islam protest. I know activists, they would be like, huh?

[C]

Who. Yeah, we're gonna. We're gonna go up. No, I don't mean to go. We're gonna make a little bomb.

[A]

That's what I'm saying. Have it ready to go.

[C]

And they said, the powers that be, the police commissioner, Tish came out and she said this was not a fake. Right. This was a real. It just didn't detonate. It had shrapnel. It could have killed people.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yeah. Why would.

[B]

And they found, like, four of them. Them, by the way, it wasn't one. They ended up this morning finding some other ones.

[A]

Bro, I thought it was just one.

[B]

No, it was multiple.

[C]

So. So, yeah, it's a great point. Ebro. Whoa.

[B]

Who? What? Where? Why? Because, honestly, the guy that got punched in the face in Minnesota. Lang. Yeah, yeah, this guy has been punched in the face. He also was the guy. Remember the video? The dude in the tight cargoes almost tripping over. He was kicking over the. The. Yeah, the. The. What was it? F Ice.

[C]

Yeah, yeah, yes.

[B]

Structure in Minnesota. That's that same guy. So anyway, this guy just goes around starting problems to get on the news, basically, or get on social media. I think he's trying to get a job in the magas. The Maga. Maga world.

[C]

So if he shows, I'm willing to show up and be horrible over and over again. Maybe.

[B]

Maybe he'll get a gig. Because they love that they. You know, they're into that sort of thing. So I think he actually hires both sides. I'm gonna show up here with this click, and then I'm gonna tell other people to show up and just be the anti click so we can get some action.

[C]

It is very weird. It's all very weird.

[B]

And somebody's funding it. Where y' all getting money?

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Where's the money come from for you to bounce around all these flights and people to show up? People ain't doing this stuff for free, guys.

[C]

That's a good point, too.

[A]

I need.

[C]

Why Mom Donnie?

[B]

Why Gracie Manchin?

[C]

Like, Mom Donnie, Momdani is moving good with Trump.

[B]

Why are you trying to Trump right now?

[A]

He's Muslim, though. That's the whole point.

[C]

I get it. But there's. Yeah, I guess if they're. If. If that's their number one thing is we just want to go attack Muslims.

[A]

And they hate him because he won.

[C]

He won.

[B]

I thought he was, like, moving good with Trump, so it was like, nah,

[A]

it doesn't matter, bro. He's going to bring Shakira Law to New York.

[B]

Mom Donna. Stan.

[C]

Mom Donna. Welcome to day 83 of Mom Donnie. Stan. Now. Mom Donnie. That was the only thing he was dealing with this weekend. They're coming after Mom Donnie. Because his wife liked a post on October. Several posts on October 7th. Oh, and then you guys didn't see this.

[B]

Nope.

[C]

Didn't make it. I don't understand what the things that make it don't.

[B]

This was my. My algorithm is all Iran Israel right now.

[C]

Well, this. So this is.

[B]

Oh, and. And AI elders giving health tips.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

This weekend it was some Asian men. Some Asian AI men started popping up, up, you know, giving Chinese medicine tips.

[C]

Pretty good.

[A]

Pretty good.

[C]

Well, they're trying to choose who they believe are the most appealing elder men. They believe Jamaican elder men. Very appealing. And so.

[B]

No, but I have Jamaican elder aunties too, popping up on my doctors, all that.

[C]

So yeah, his. His wife, he's been getting grilled for the last few days because his wife, who was not then his wife, but was then his girlfriend, liked some pretty aggressive posts on October 7th and 8th that were kind of celebrating October 7th. I think my dad mentioned to me yesterday. He's like, do you see what they're doing to Mom, Donnie? My dad's further than me even. Right? So he's like. He's like, dad coming after. Over. Because she liked some posts. I mean, and I was like, dad, I was like, you wouldn't have liked those posts on October 7th and 8th. And he was like, no, no, I wouldn't have. But whatever. They weren't even married. And I'm like, for sure. And they're looking for things to trip him on.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

However, if I'm him when I get home, if he didn't know that she liked those posts, I'd be like, really?

[B]

Really?

[C]

On October 7th, you had to like the ones that were like, you can't hold the people back after they just murdered people. That it was a day of murder and violence. That was not the day to.

[A]

Right.

[C]

And then she like, there was a pro, like a October 8th protest that she brought. Anyways, the point is he wasn't mayor then, she wasn't his wife then there's a million things. But he ends up in this awkward spot now where they keep asking him over and over again. He's like, my wife's not in office. I love my wife. She's not in office, though.

[A]

And she's not.

[B]

And I don't control her social media.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

And I could even say, and I don't agree with what she likes.

[C]

And he did. And he's like, even at the time, he's like. And I condemned the things that. That she liked in those posts.

[B]

They're going to keep asking him.

[C]

They're going to keep asking, but they're

[B]

not going to keep asking about the Epstein file, and they're not going to keep asking Netanyahu how we got into this war and what. And. And they're not going to keep asking Trump how. Just the other day he said, this war isn't over until Netanyahu and I decide that it's over. Not gonna keep asking about that, huh?

[A]

I was listening to the daily podcast, and it was like a past episode of, like, the whole Trump and Netanyahu and Iran thing. Like, how. How did we get here? And I haven't listened to the whole thing, but what I heard was very much. It was just pure ego stroke.

[C]

Oh, yeah, I believe. Oh, that's it.

[A]

Netanyahu be like, you're the one. It has to come from you. And it was so easy. Like, the way he just kissed his ass, said, you'll be the one that's gonna be recognized worldwide for doing this. And I'm just like, yo, I think

[C]

that's a big part of it. Trump's so easy to play in that way. We know that. Right? I mean, listen, we watch Mommy.

[B]

So Trump donors, though, guys.

[C]

Well, so then. So then there's the video that Ebro sent us this weekend, too, though. You have these, These. These Israel crazies who.

[B]

Billionaire.

[C]

They want this war.

[B]

The owner of the Dallas Mavericks.

[C]

Yeah. Miriam Adelson gave him $250 million.

[B]

And to him, quote, directly and indirectly. Matter of fact, Miriam and her husband are the reason they even moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem.

[C]

Oh, yeah. Like, it was their thing. Like, they.

[B]

And that was a big agitation.

[C]

Big agitation.

[A]

I remember when this happened. Yes.

[C]

And that was. That was apparently according to the thing we saw. That was directly from them, too. They spent that much money that they're like, hey, so we want this now. And they've wanted this war. The craziest thing in that video you sent, it was kind of deep at the end of it was that when they're at a press conference and she's there and Trump's talking about her, and Trump's like, I even asked her, what do you love more, Israel or the United States? And she didn't answer. I might be Israel. I'm like that. You shouldn't be proud to say that out loud. You shouldn't. Congratulations. You played yourself. And the fact that Kyrie Irving is on the Mavericks blows my mind. I'm like, did they talk to each other?

[B]

Well, remember, no. He was on the Mavs before she had the team or Was the majority. Remember, Mark Cuban gave up his. She was in. Mark Cuban gave up his piece. Are you sure?

[C]

Are you sure that timeline's right, though?

[B]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

It was right before he got there.

[D]

She.

[C]

But she was still.

[B]

I think she was a part owner.

[C]

No, no. Yeah. And then. And then he. Majority owner before he. Before Kyrie got there.

[B]

Yeah. No, no, no. After Kyrie happened. After Mark Cuban gives up his piece.

[C]

Got it. Got it. It's still.

[B]

I mean, I didn't. That's the way people explain it. I don't. I didn't go research it myself.

[C]

Yeah, okay. Because I got to check that timeline. But either way, I just don't understand how either of them.

[A]

It is.

[C]

Why does she want him there? Why would he want to be there? He wouldn't. I assume he would not want that.

[B]

Gives her plausible deniability.

[C]

Also, does she want.

[A]

Does she even care at this point?

[C]

People like her don't even care about.

[B]

But some of them like it, though. Look, Kyrie's on one of my teams, you know, us.

[C]

And he will play.

[B]

I mean, he took another year off.

[C]

Yo, is this. Is this going to make it? So he's taking this whole year.

[B]

That's what he announced and said he's going to wait out another year. Sorry to the fans, you know, blah, blah, blah.

[A]

Is he hurt?

[B]

Yeah, I blew out his knee. Or last.

[C]

But that was last. That was middle of last year.

[B]

Yeah. Your man Tatum just came.

[C]

Already back. Looks great. Looked great yesterday. Played a second game. It looks like he's fully back.

[B]

But if I'm Kyrie, maybe that's why he took another year off. I don't know if I like this. Miriam Adelson late.

[C]

No, but seriously. And I want to.

[A]

Let me watch how this plays out first.

[C]

I got to keep making my money here. Yeah, but I don't really want to play for this team.

[B]

That's right, but. And I like the fans and I like the team, but this is looking great.

[C]

Does he like the team? I mean, the team's not even the same team as when he was got there either. It's completely different team. Although I'd imagine he wants to play with Cooper Flag. That seems appealing to play with some, you know, new young stud.

[B]

Maybe. We'll see how this plays out. Listen, Super Chat, you got any super Chats? We should shout them out Monday Vibes. Ebro. Laura Rosenberg. Make sure you subscribe. Jump to that Patreon new episode every Wednesday.

[C]

Juan Perez came through big time.

[B]

Laura, how's the Merch going. You've been in the trenches on the merch. How's it going this go round?

[A]

I mean, we're pretty much good. And I keep telling everyone, if you have any issues, email us ELR Merch Gmail.

[B]

Also ellr.

[C]

We have an ELR merch.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes. And try not to like DM us because I get lost in these dms.

[C]

So you like the email better?

[A]

Just email. Straight up email, yeah.

[B]

Now, Laura and Griffin, we have our first advertiser coming on this week.

[D]

This week.

[C]

I know we have the call today.

[B]

We have a call today. They sent us some dates when we're supposed to be doing this.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But anyway, for the El army out there, here's how this advertising thing works. In this space, when we have an advertiser pop on, at some point, it's going to be multiple advertisers. We need you guys to engage with the advertiser that keeps them coming back. So we need the El army to attack. You know what I'm saying? Like the day, but in a positive way.

[C]

Yeah, no, attack is the wrong word. But I didn't see what you.

[B]

Activate.

[C]

Activate. Activate is good.

[B]

El army activate.

[C]

That's soon. Juan Perez jumped in. Just stroke vibes, gave us a whole bunch of money. That's very nice.

[B]

You don't even want to say how much it was that much, huh?

[C]

That's 49.

[B]

Yo, Juan, yo, Shout to you not taking it to 50. He was like, 50 is too much.

[C]

No, no. And not even 49.99. I've never seen this before. 49. 00. You don't see that every day. And then Moreno the man, yo, every time Moreno the man came through and

[B]

he said, yo, we got to do a call with Moreno the man.

[C]

He needs an intro for sure for our best subs.

[A]

Yeah, he's going to have to want to do it. So come on, Moreno.

[C]

All right, he.

[B]

Well, you reached out to him.

[A]

No, I'm just saying he should just send him in.

[C]

We're having like our hardcore Fox do these intros for us. Moreno, the man says. Oh, sorry, sorry. Hold on, I have an update.

[A]

Oh, okay, you're saying.

[C]

You're saying Juan Perez's thing. Oh, that's not American currency. Yeah, it's. What's Nio?

[B]

Nio.

[C]

Nio is the currency. 49 NIOs.

[B]

Okay, NIO, which would be Naira. Naira.

[C]

Is that Nicaragua?

[B]

Nicaragua. Yo, shout to Nicaragua, man. What's going on? Give us an update. What's going on down there with all

[C]

the Politics Moreno, the man, though, said I'm a need. Said I'm a need fat academics to leave my boy Ebro alone. Whoa, this dude was talking mad BS just to find out y' all have a studio.

[B]

He talking about old stuff. But Academics is not a. Or Vlad or any of these guys. They're not really in tune with what we do. Like, these people don't know what we do. They don't know how radio works. There's a lot of information they don't get or understand, but they put on good shows on the Internet. Speaking of good shows on the Internet,

[C]

I like what you did. Go ahead.

[B]

On Rap Life Review on Apple this weekend. This was trending. I didn't see it trending, but I saw all of the, like, comments in my Twitter feed.

[C]

Feed.

[B]

People are very passionate about Drake having classic albums.

[C]

Okay.

[B]

We were having a conversation at Rap Life Review about, I don't know, a laundry list of things where you're waiting on an artist to deliver your expectations, what you want from them.

[A]

Okay.

[B]

There's an ongoing conversation around, and you've had it. You've expressed this, Rosenberg. But low on the show on Rap Life review expresses as well around waiting for Drake to drop a classic hip hop album. Album. Like, everyone knows he can. And I'm constantly like, but that's not what he wants to do, bro. Like, he's doing it his way, and he's got classic albums. Anyway. I referenced him not having classic albums. They took that clip of me just

[C]

saying, I love it.

[B]

And I mean, the OVO hoes ran it.

[C]

But you weren't even saying that.

[B]

I was not saying what?

[A]

What did you say in the clip?

[B]

They just literally took me saying that I was like. And like, Drake not having classic albums,

[A]

and Drake doesn't have a classic.

[C]

But you weren't saying that.

[B]

But I was referencing a list of other items. Okay, if I rec. But anyway, they took the clip and ran it up. It was great promo. I appreciate it. Complex put out a whole list of Drake's albums. People were arguing, how does Drake not have classic albums? And he still got albums in the Billboard 200. Drake has classic albums. The conversation has constantly been, are they classic hip hop albums? And that delineation, I believe, is important. I've always thought it was important.

[D]

Yeah.

[A]

And people also debate if he's like, top, top five, because he's been known to also collaborate with people.

[B]

So there's a lot of asterisks and question marks around Drake. That's not something I made up or My own. That's the conversation.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

And in this case, you weren't even the person.

[B]

I wasn't even the person. But they love to. I love the promo.

[A]

Congratulations, you inspired.

[C]

And they love having you be the anti Drake.

[B]

They love that.

[C]

But, but I, I, this has been an argument for a long time. I, I don't, guys, I don't know what Drake's classic album is. So I think if you go, which one is it? And there's a debate about which one, to me, it starts to be like, well, then there's probably not one.

[B]

Well, so, so people have their favorite or their classic. That's a common thing. Oh, nothing was the same for me. It's take care, whatever. But one of the things about hip hop is hip hop. Classic albums are not determined by chart position.

[C]

No.

[B]

It's been determined by a kind of unanimous celebration of a, of an album. Album that's unanimous across the fans and the people who critique things and the DJs. Right. Like, it's. So when you say things like Jay Z, Blueprint, nobody's saying no. There's no question. No, yeah, that's when you say Nas Illmatic. There's no question. When you say Wu Tang Clan, 36, Chambers.

[C]

No question.

[B]

There's no question.

[C]

That's. That's what. Yeah, that's what. The part that people understanding, it's not like, does he have an album that's your favorite?

[B]

Right?

[C]

It's. Has there been one that has collectively, as the group, been put into the classic album lexicon?

[B]

That's all.

[C]

And like, for example, Kendrick, for example, collectively, the world took Good Kid, Mad City, and they put it in.

[B]

That's right.

[C]

They said, this is a classic. I don't even know if I think it's his best album. But that's the one, you know, Like, I might think Damn is better, but

[B]

Good Kid Mad City is Kanye. There's like four, right?

[C]

Kanye has a bunch.

[B]

You know what I mean? So. And that's rare. Air rare.

[C]

Very rare.

[B]

You know what I mean?

[C]

Jay Z has two that people put there, which are Reasonable Doubt and Blueprint.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

The Black Album is still disputed.

[B]

Some 444 people have been talking about recently.

[C]

People love 444, but me too. But, but the ones that people say, are there a reasonable doubt in Blueprint? That's what people.

[B]

So that was the convo in part of the hip hop. And so then it just prompted like, I just. On Twitter, it was like a whole thing of life.

[C]

Well, it has to be a whole Thing.

[B]

It's a whole thing.

[C]

Gotta have to be a whole thing. What else are we doing?

[B]

But I. I'll say this, man. I do appreciate the fact that there is this kind of constant push and pull between fandom and, like, DJs and critics in hip hop, right? Like, I like it. I like. I love seeing it where there's people who, like, consume hip hop and have critiqued it and played it professionally. That is their life. And then fans who are like, no, this is my favorite. And I disagree with this critique. Like, I think that's a. A healthy kind of dialogue that's constantly taking place.

[C]

The only thing that's made it unhealthy is the downside of the Drake and Kendrick thing is there is such a toxicity now when you talk about anything related to Drake and Kendrick.

[B]

So that goes back to.

[C]

That sucks.

[B]

So that goes to me. Going back to me talking about Drake being a cancer, when I said Drake is a sickness, right? When everybody's like, I called Drake a sickness.

[C]

That was a tough one.

[A]

Line.

[B]

Yeah, it's a tough line. But your fans are a problem. Your brand is a problem in this game, bro. Like, the fact that we can't just have dialogue without sycophants going nutso about you is problematic.

[C]

Yeah, he's not the first.

[B]

No, he's not the first. He won't be the last.

[C]

Right?

[B]

But that was the current state of things where we can't even have a real dialogue about something and about music without, like, crazed fans.

[C]

And by the way, and the most frustrating part is without even fans who are knowledgeable, the rest of the music, right? They're just. You're. They're ruining it. Because we're trying to have a real debate here about music. No one's trying to disrespect Drake when we're analyzing if he has a classic album. I'll say it a million times. No one has more hits in the history of hip hop than Drake.

[B]

How about this? Nobody's had a better run, and no

[C]

one's had a run like this that we've ever seen, ever. There's the level of consistency over a period of time. He has a lot of things to hang his hat on. The question is, does he have a classic album? Having that debate doesn't mean you hate Drake.

[B]

Listen, there's a. There's other ones in there. The rappers he's collabed with that he's helped get number one songs, rappers he's. Or genres of music that he's worked into his.

[C]

And Helped elevate.

[B]

Helped elevate. Like, all of that is positive.

[C]

A lot of great stuff. All right.

[A]

But is this a Drake problem or is it a fandom problem?

[B]

Well, the problem is, is we found out that the BO and things are paid for.

[A]

Yeah, I. So I believe that that's true. And there's crazy, like, fans. The barbs fall under that.

[B]

But that's like. It's like the Swifties, the barbs, all of that. These fans who are just. You are popular. You are a popular music fan, which is fine. You're a fan of an artist who happens to be in a genre, but you're not necessarily a hyper fan of the genre without that individual.

[A]

No, you're a fan of that individual.

[B]

And that's the kind of nuance of it all.

[C]

Yeah, I just think it gets. I agree with that. And I just think it gets to a. That. That thing you just talked about of. It's accepted as a hip hop classic. That's the part people miss because they don't communicate with other hip hop fans and they don't know what it is to sit around with other real hip hop heads and discuss music. So they didn't have that collective. Oh, Cuban Links is a classic. Supreme Clientele is a classic. These things have. They don't get it.

[A]

Well, we're just talking about people who just get offended at critique. That's it.

[B]

That. And that's a whole other thing. And that's generation. Listen. But by the way, artists have always been offended by critique.

[C]

Like, artists are always, always. They think everything they do is a classic.

[B]

And so when you offend an artist now, they ignite their sycophants and the note. Because they send out the bat signal. And now they're attacking you.

[C]

Right.

[B]

Which, you know, some of us welcome and some don't. And then you have. Like I was saying, and then you have these paid bloggers who are financed to be mouthpieces for these artists, which is a whole other thing that happens too. What are you laughing at? The chat.

[C]

Someone in the chat. Dude, Rap said Ro. I guess he means me because it sounds like a quote from me. He said Ro called Take Care a good Sade album back in 2011. I remember that. Still, Take Care is a classic to me, but I get people who disagree. Love from Berlin. Yes, I did say that. Yeah. To me, it's not a classic classic hip hop album. So it's. I see why.

[B]

Listen. But you know these guys. I'm bringing this up today on this really to cross promote rap Life review on Apple so you guys can tune in this week, but now it's. We gonna have all these shows cranking now.

[C]

Oh, gosh, he has. Drake has more hits than anyone. I give him tons of credit. To me, the Bonafide, that's the classic album. Everyone agreed. That's the one. Put it, Put it next to Midnight Marauders. Put it next to this. I don't think.

[B]

I don't even think Drake fans all agree on the album.

[C]

Album. Which is a problem. For the, for the argument's sake, it's a problem. You know what I'm saying? Dr. Dre fans aren't going well. I battle weather and forth.

[B]

It's, it's, it's 2001 or chronic or the Cratic.

[C]

Now I, I'm a weirdo because I, I, I'm. I'm.

[B]

I love 2000.

[C]

2001's right there for me. But the Chronic was the one that. Sorry, it was decided. That's what it. Doggy style. That's the one. It got put in there.

[B]

And you might. And by the way, you might like other things, right?

[C]

No problem. I, I have things that I consider to be, you know, like I, I obviously consider Cowboy Carter an absolute classic. I don't believe yet that society has accepted and said, oh, yeah, we believe now it's different because it's not hip hop and we have our own conversations. I don't believe that society at large has said that. I think some people, Beyonce fans love it. I think everybody else is like, it's cool. Not every album.

[B]

Does everybody agree now here's.

[C]

This is a mantle piece.

[B]

Have, have we all agreed on which. Which Outkast album is the classic? Or is it 2? Is it atleans and Equeminae? Some people be like, ah, Stankonia.

[A]

Yeah, I know.

[C]

I love which. Thank God. At the time I was like, this is cool. And now I go back to it

[B]

and I love it a lot.

[C]

I think, I think it's a Quemi. Yeah, I think it's a Quemi. But, but, but Atleans is at Aliens. They. They were right there. But Equemani, they were a next level of kind of realized, you know, when you. Although I gotta tell you, Rosa Parks is a song that at this stage, I still don't feel like hearing. Isn't that crazy?

[B]

What would you rather have, Rosa Parks or Ms. Jackson?

[C]

Oh, man, that got played a lot, bro.

[B]

Ms. Jackson got played.

[C]

But the drums on Ms. Jackson, I'd rather hear Ms. Jackson because the, the way it Starts is so hard. Even the way Rosa Parks starts. The build. The build of the. Like, it's. It's just. It was meant for radio. It was the radio joint. But that album is such the way

[A]

Skewed on the Barbie comes in.

[C]

Oh, I Skewed on the Barbie's the best, bro.

[B]

Yo, that collab, right? The song Equan and Outkast collabing at that time.

[C]

At that time.

[B]

And then nothing better.

[C]

The song Equi.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Plus both. Art of storytelling.

[B]

Oh, man, I love the art of storytelling.

[C]

It's the. It's. I think. I think Aquinai is the one that most people agree is their classic.

[B]

It is time for the Rundown.

[C]

Hit it. Laura got the rundown. Turn that up. Screens on Glow when shit, she pulled

[B]

up headlines heavy, but we still caught up. Light still flashing. We don't slow up now.

[A]

We didn't talk about this, but I just wanted to bring it up because we didn't talk about Stefan Diggs getting basically released from the Patriots.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

So he did a whole, you know, a post saying, thank you for a hell of a year. We're family forever. Until we meet again.

[B]

Now let's go to ESPN's own Rosenberg.

[C]

Are they family forever?

[A]

I know.

[B]

Does he get picked up by another team after multiple years of kind of struggling for stuff?

[A]

I. I think legal issues.

[C]

I think he'll get another shot somewhere. But it's. This ain't going the right direction, guys.

[B]

Right.

[C]

As we said when. As I said when Cardi started dating him, I don't know if this is going the right direction, but, like, he's, you know, listen, he's still a good player. He's just not the guy that he was. He was. He was the man of Buffalo, bro.

[B]

No.

[C]

Was that at Minnesota?

[B]

Four. Three.

[C]

At the Bills, Three. Three years ago? I don't know. It's. I think it's been two years he's been gone from the Bills. But he was the man in Minnesota. He was the man in Buffalo. But, yeah, no, I mean, the only reason this is getting mentioned in the. In the rundown is because Cardi B. He has a cause.

[B]

Guess who wasn't paying attention before Cardi B. Hello. Laura style.

[A]

Hello.

[B]

This was. By the way, ladies and gentlemen, this is at the top of her list.

[A]

100%.

[C]

Stephan Diggs has been released, like, hilarious.

[A]

100% correct.

[B]

By the way, football players get released

[A]

all the time, every day, B. I did think it was funny to see Offset. They're like, Offset is out with his six kids. And there's like, he, of course he posted like mad videos, but I'm like, guys, they're his children.

[C]

Well, I don't understand what that means. He's out with his 6 kids.

[A]

Cuz he had all of them. Like all the kids.

[B]

The ones he had from other relationships. And.

[C]

And he. And he has three with Cardi.

[B]

Yes, yes.

[A]

He has three with cardi, wave and culture.

[C]

And then he has another three. Yes. People are wild, bro. I just want to say that. People are wild. Note. Six is wild, bro. It's like 32 years old, bro.

[B]

Six kids.

[C]

No, we talk about him like, we think of Offset. Like he's like close to our age. He's not. He's way younger.

[B]

Well, I never thought he was close to our age, but I just talk.

[C]

I mean, I feel like he's been around forever now.

[B]

Yeah, he's still a kid.

[C]

He's still kind of.

[B]

I don't know how we met him when he was like, what, 19, 20.

[C]

I don't know. Yeah, something like that. 22. He's got six kids.

[A]

I was at the kids party and I was with my friend son, Emilio and Kenza. I was going nuts with two. Come here, come here. Oh, my God. I was going nuts. How do you. How do you do it? I think I might lose one.

[C]

Six is a crazy number.

[B]

Laura declaring she might lose a child.

[A]

I'd be like, oh, my God, I lost him.

[B]

Somebody, somebody write down what time that happened in the video.

[C]

I might lose one. Yo, Rick just weighed in with some big Money and said, Andre 3000 flute album, though. Fire emoji. Why you spend $20 to say that, bro? You didn't need to spend $20 to save the flute album.

[B]

We appreciate you, though.

[C]

We appreciate you.

[B]

What you got, Laura?

[A]

All right. Oh, man. Rosenberg, you saw Britney Spears got arrested, man. So she was arrested for driving under the influence. They're saying that she. The car was definitely, like, swerving. They arrested her. She was very emotional, crying, tearful. And then they took her to the hospital for, you know, a toxicology testing. They ended up finding pills. Adderall.

[C]

So not shocking.

[A]

Yeah, I mean, there's pills that she purchased in Mexico.

[B]

Wait, wait, wait, wait. Adderall is not elite an illegal.

[A]

No, but that's what I was going to say. I'm like, I understand her driving fast. You know what I mean?

[C]

Yeah. Reckless.

[B]

They're like, yo, it's the Adderall. She's sped up out here.

[C]

But Adderall and, and booze. If she hit both that's a problem.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

You can't be taking Adderall and drinking.

[B]

I'm not familiar.

[C]

You could guess. Could you?

[B]

Taking one's one keeps you up, one sends you down.

[C]

Yeah, it's not what you take.

[B]

All the prescription pills on the bottle,

[C]

it says don't mix with alcohol. Almost all of them. It's very rare not to. I'll say that this, I don't know what Britney's doing, but evidence suggests, based on the videos I see, if that's not doing drugs, I don't know what doing drugs is. Now I'm not saying that means she is doing.

[B]

Remember we alleged, we alleged, speculated last week was that last week where we like maybe Britney's playing with all of us and she's doing this twirling on Instagram with knives and weird dances to like, you know, play into the whole Britney's crazy thing. But nothing's really wrong. But then you get this.

[C]

Yeah, yeah. I don't think, I don't think it's going great for Brit.

[A]

Yo, I got scared when I read this. Yo, the woman, there's a woman taken into custody because yet on Sunday she fired multiple shots at Rihanna's mansion. One of the shots penetrated her home

[B]

and she was home, bro. Rihanna's at the crib and some lady drives up and just starts shooting at her house.

[A]

What a psycho.

[B]

Now they did say on the news, Laura A, they apprehended the woman, helicopters, whatever apprehended them. Woman B, motive. They don't know. And see, they're not even sure that the woman knows that that was Rihanna's house yet.

[A]

I don't know if I believe that, but I don't.

[B]

That's what the news is saying. I don't know. I don't know if you know, maybe the lady saying that very specific thing,

[A]

you roll up to this house and want to shoot.

[B]

Yeah. Nah, it's not what you. I, I'll go out on a limb here and say it's not what you want.

[C]

I don't like this at all. And she's got her babies in the house.

[A]

I'm saying like they haven't said cuz I was.

[C]

They don't know if the babies are in the house.

[A]

We don't know. But she was home, so I'm thinking at least one of them is home.

[C]

She happened to be home home though.

[A]

Yeah, yeah. It's not scary.

[B]

And wasn't it like 6 or 7 o' clock in the evening?

[A]

Yeah, yeah. It wasn't like, oh, you know, psycho

[C]

the not knowing who it. Whose house it was. We'll see. My guess is what she's gonna have, but.

[B]

But I. I would say other houses. Well, if this is. If this woman did this, and this is the only house that she shot at, and then she wants to claim that it's not Rihanna's house. You're a liar, man. Yeah.

[A]

All right, guys. So did you see the 50 cent drama of the week?

[B]

That's a liar.

[A]

Are you keeping up? This is a lot.

[B]

I'm following 50 Cent, you know?

[C]

Come on. You know Ebro. This. This is the Bo Chinche Ebro's into. This is Ebro Chin.

[B]

He dropped that pack. Yo. It was a solid move. Solid move to put out the Leon Thomas collabo intro for the new Power season thingy. I like it.

[C]

Oh, that. And. And in the thing, he took shots.

[B]

He took shots.

[A]

Yes. Yeah, we can't play it because, you know know.

[B]

But yeah, if we play it, y', all, they'll yank this video off the Internet.

[C]

And didn't he also say he's. He's making a Ti and Tiny documentary?

[B]

He did say that. And T. I was like, well, if you making docs, I'm making docs. We can do whatever you want.

[A]

Doc for doc.

[B]

We can go doc for doc, song for song, whatever you want.

[C]

So. So he said he's making a surviving TI and Tiny doc.

[B]

Yep.

[C]

About the sexual accusations against. Against TI and Tiny.

[B]

And then TI Was like, well, we're gonna make a doc about you burning your baby mama's house down.

[D]

Oh, boy.

[B]

With your kid in it.

[A]

Oh, boy, oh, boy.

[C]

Pete, you ever heard the phrase glass houses? Why do people do this? Like, if you have this much stuff going on, why do you do this?

[B]

Now 50 put out another record with Max B. I think the intro to y' all let me know what you think in the chat. The one with Leon Thomas I feel like is a solid record. The Max B record is cool. I don't feel like the Max B record was. Is as good as other one.

[A]

I don't think so either.

[B]

But y' all say it in the chat. How y' all feeling? And I'm just glad 50 put some records out. I. I'll be honest with you.

[C]

It is nice to see 50 dropping some music. Cuz we were, you know, people were talking is ourselves included or at least me about, like, he doesn't drop any music. And here he comes, there he is with the records. So.

[B]

And. And cross promoting shows, so. But the ill part is, is that theme Song's not going away.

[C]

No.

[B]

It's at least one season of power. You're going to be hearing that joint,

[A]

people singing along to it. You know, he knows.

[B]

And I guarantee you 50 going to get out here whenever he starts doing interviews. And he's going to talk about how much money he gets from the intro theme and publishing versus it just going to streaming services. Because that's why he decides to put his records on those shows.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Because it goes farther.

[C]

Yep. That's smart. Yeah, that's really smart.

[A]

Oh, my God, this is so foul. So let's go to the download.

[B]

Low down.

[C]

Oh, man.

[B]

Low down Time.

[A]

Time for the low down

[B]

with Laura Sty.

[C]

Oh, man, we just hit 60,000 on YouTube, too.

[D]

Yay.

[B]

60,000 subscribers.

[C]

Yes. Just happened right now.

[B]

Wait, wait, it's March. We're trying to get to a hundred thousand by June. What was the bet? End of June?

[C]

It was by July 1st.

[A]

July.

[B]

But let's see you July. When, though?

[A]

Yeah, I said late July. I'll go with end. Okay, end of July.

[C]

I said July1.

[B]

July1 low.

[D]

Who?

[B]

End of June, he said that's the same.

[C]

Okay, end of June. July.

[B]

Well, if it was, the price is right and it goes into June and it's not July when he went.

[C]

No. Well, end of June shouldn't count. Let's be honest. He should choose a date. You get his. What does end of June mean?

[B]

The end of the last 6:30.

[C]

July 1st.

[B]

See, you're whack. Talking about July 1st after we just had this whole debate. Go ahead, Laurie.

[A]

We love and appreciate you guys. Thank you for your.

[B]

Yeah, all the subscribers, big.

[A]

All right. So Southwest Airlines had to issue an apology. So Flight 2094, this happened on Friday, had to make an emergency landing in Atlanta. Why? Because they thought there was some kind of bomb on the plane. What happened was a man put on his alarm to remind him that he had to pray. And he started praying, okay. They thought it was a terrorist attack or they thought it was a bomb. So congratulations, they made the plane land in Atlanta.

[C]

Guys, I don't understand. What ha. What kind of alarm is this?

[B]

Alarm on his phone, alarm on his watch.

[A]

And then they saw a man praying.

[B]

He started praying in Arabic because it's Ramadan, he's Muslim.

[A]

They were like, oh, we got landed the plane.

[B]

Whole squad team came on the plane. So when I first saw the video, I was like, this AI bro, this ain't real. Because I couldn't find any other outlets reporting that there was a terrorist attack

[C]

on the Plane or terrorist threat.

[B]

Or terrorist threat. Because I was looking for terrorist threat. I'm sure if I searched plane rerouted due to man praying, maybe it would have came up on some reliable things. So I thought the video was fake all weekend.

[A]

At first, I thought it was fake, too, until I saw the rest of the reports come out of the apology.

[C]

No one could. No one could. Before they rerouted the plane, no one just went up to him and asked, hey, sir, you okay? And he couldn't just go, oh, I'm doing better prayers.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yo, guys, you hit the button. It's not September.

[B]

Congratulations, you played yourself.

[C]

Is it September 14, 2001? What. What is going on?

[B]

It was terrible then, too.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

But. But you guys know, Islamophobia in this country is rampant. People get on. People get on planes wearing, you know, their head coverings. People get on planes wearing. Whatever religious guard. People get. All. All been out of shape still today, to this day, beards, people speaking different languages.

[C]

Yeah. And. And everybody seems to. Every group seems to hold this bias to some degree.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

It's crazy. People come together for their Islamophobia.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You'll see. You'll see. Racists.

[B]

And I'll say it again, on this show, there are 2 billion Muslims on planet Earth.

[C]

That's a quarter of the planet to you. And me.

[B]

And y' all are running. What are y' all doing? You. You're ridiculous. Yeah, man, you are ridiculous. And I'm. Maybe we should have this discussion, too, Too. Our country does more terrorism on planet Earth than others.

[A]

And every religion has extremists.

[B]

Every single one.

[A]

Everyone.

[C]

Yeah, man, that's. That's embarrassing, bro.

[D]

I thought.

[C]

The video. When you guys sent a video to the group, I thought it was gonna be a fight that I saw on a flight this weekend.

[A]

Oh, I've been seeing those, too.

[C]

Which did you see? This was. This was the. I don't know what was going on.

[A]

The Latino guy.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

Short guy.

[C]

Yeah. It lasted for a while.

[B]

I didn't see this.

[C]

Went on and on.

[B]

I have the AI Elders giving me health tips.

[C]

That's. You're in a better place.

[B]

I'm not getting this.

[C]

These.

[B]

These vids.

[C]

No, you're in a better space, Laura. Seeing the trash, the filth.

[A]

Did you see when he was like, Marissa.

[C]

Oh, yeah.

[B]

Wait, what are they beefing about? Give me this.

[C]

Yo, Marissa, let's go. And I don't know what, bro.

[B]

I don't know.

[A]

Left.

[B]

Yo, do we have. Why didn't you send the video to the.

[C]

Because it's boring. It's. It's. It's an endless. It's a five minute video, but when you watch it, you're curious what's going to happen next.

[B]

Look, guys, guys. For the. For EO Laura Rosenberg. The reason I send so many vids to the chat is not because I'm going to use them all. We know it's for situations like this where you guys are referencing. Then I could be like, look, here's the video.

[C]

Yeah, it wasn't worth it. I didn't even.

[B]

It is worth it, cuz right now, I don't know. I want to know what happened with Marissa.

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God.

[B]

I want to know how this story ended.

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I think that was like his girlfriend and she never left.

[B]

You don't even know. I want the b.

[C]

No. And then as it went on, someone knocked into someone else. And then he was about to fight. And then he was about to fight. How.

[B]

And you termed this. You shaped this as boring. That's what you went with.

[A]

It was just like a lot of commotion.

[C]

There's a lot of plane fights, bro. And then once I watched that one in full because I saw it on Twitter. Yeah, the Twitter algorithm is not. They're very blatant with it. If you watch one video, oh, no,

[B]

they sending you all the way down. Fights. You're fights.

[C]

Oh, you're a plane fight guy. There's 10 plane fights. And I was like, wow, dude, those

[A]

no fly, like lists really exist Because I don't understand how people just keep going.

[B]

Well, you got to remember a lot of people don't travel that much. And there's plenty of idiots that are going to get on a flight and do something stupid. But also, y' all got to check those videos when they put them up in front of you because they may not be recent either.

[C]

That's true too.

[A]

That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[B]

Because. Because there was a period, remember we were seeing a bunch like during Pandemic.

[C]

Yo, you know, fight. You know what? Fight I've been shown a thousand times in the algorithm. It keeps getting shown to me. Have you seen the one of the racist white lady in like, what looks like a 711 and the black dude knocks her and her boyfriend out?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

Yo, they show me that so many times where they trying me to show me that.

[B]

Where the woman calls them the N word, then the other guy comes in the store, he gets knocked out multiple times because the other girl's calling him the N word.

[C]

And then the girl gets, I think, laid out too, basically by the guy. But why do we. They've shown it to me mad times. Like, who's behind sharing that? Like, it's a horrible video.

[B]

But that's the racial divisiveness.

[C]

Right. So who's paying for the perpetuation? Yeah, it's a white woman yelling the N word. The black guy hits a woman. It's all nasty. It's not things you want to see. And yet it's getting shown over and over again. I want to know who's buying that.

[B]

Someone's paying for somebody's financing it.

[C]

Yeah, maybe just Elon.

[B]

You know, I want to close with words from the great Barack Obama at the Reverend Jesse Jackson Memorial. Did you guys see any of the Reverend Jesse Jackson Memorial? I saw.

[C]

I saw several. Several clips. I saw Obama. I saw some. Kamala, I believe I saw a few things.

[A]

Yeah, I saw the right trying to instigate, saying that, like, look at them. They couldn't even contain themselves.

[C]

Well, I read. I read, Jesse.

[B]

Contain themselves.

[A]

Go ahead. They're trying to say that Reverend Jesse Jackson's son said, please don't make this political.

[C]

Well, he. And then he did. Apparently, Jesse Jackson Jr. Came out afterwards and kind of condemned them all.

[A]

Well, I didn't see that part.

[C]

Yeah, I read that last night.

[A]

So that was.

[C]

Jesse Jackson Jr. Came after them for bringing up politics.

[A]

Your dad was political.

[C]

Your dad ran for president twice, bro.

[B]

Yes, he marched with the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.

[C]

But not only that, but he had the Action Network. But everything he did was political.

[B]

So that must mean that Keeping the Rain. The Political Action Network or the Rainbow. What does it push going forward? They must be getting financing from some

[C]

conservatives and they wanted to keep it.

[B]

They want to keep that financing going.

[C]

Maybe that's.

[B]

It has to be. Why would you.

[C]

I don't know. Did any big conservatives show up?

[B]

I don't know who was there. But that doesn't mean that they're. But that doesn't mean that they're. He's not getting money from some conservative leaning, moderate leaning, whatever the reason. I didn't even care about none of that. Oh, well, what I cared about was honestly, Barry O. Getting visibly emotional.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

When talking about where the country's at today.

[C]

Yeah. You want to show it to us?

[B]

Yeah, let's have a look.

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Each day we're told by those in high office to fear each other and to turn on each other and that some Americans count more than others and that some don't even count at all. Everywhere we see greed and bigotry being celebrated and Bullying and mockery masquerading as strength. We see science and expertise denigrated, while ignorance and dishonesty and cruelty and corruption are reaping untold reward. Lords, every single day we see that. And it's hard to hope in those moments. So it may be tempting to get discouraged, to give in to cynicism. It may be tempting for some to compromise with power

[B]

and grab what you

[D]

can, or even for good people to maybe just put your head down and wait for the storm to pass. But this man, Reverend Jesse Lewis Jackson, inspires us to take a harder path. His voice calls on each of us to be heralds of change, to be messengers of hope, to step forward and say, send me wherever we have a chance to make an impact, whether it's in our school or our workplaces or our neighborhoods or our cities. Not for fame, not for glory, or because success is guaranteed, but because it gives our life purpose, because it aligns with what our faith tells us God demands. And because if we don't step up, no one else will.

[B]

There's voice crack right there.

[C]

Yeah, Yeah, I did hear the voice crack yesterday.

[B]

Emotional man.

[C]

Well, guess what? I want to see more of it. I want more Barack. I'm sorry, I do. I hate to heap more on you because you've already given a lot. I think we need him outside and speak. Speaking a lot. And I say that because I don't know who the other person is. It's not Gavin Newsom right now. It's not a political candidate that we haven't seen yet who's making people feel this way. He can galvanize people.

[B]

Yeah. No, he's a great speaker and people like him. I think he'll get picked apart for his position on Israel. He'll get picked apart for what he did in Libya. He'll get picked apart for drone bombings. Like all of that right there. That energy and doses, I think is it. It works well. But if he's out actively trying to tell people where we should be going, they're going to pick apart decisions. But who.

[C]

But who's going to pick that apart?

[B]

The. The Internet. The same people pick apart whatever gets picked apart these days.

[C]

I don't. Do those people matter?

[B]

Yeah, they.

[C]

But they're going to pick apart everybody.

[B]

That's my point.

[C]

But that's why I'm saying those people don't matter. We need someone. He I think can.

[B]

No, they do. I'm telling you. They. I'm only. Only in the.

[C]

But who then? There's nobody.

[B]

And how the but that's why there is nobody.

[C]

But then there's never gonna be anybody. So you're saying because we fear. Yes, the people have anybody.

[B]

That's why. But that's why you're saying, like, you know, four months ago, you might have been okay with Gavin Newsom being the

[C]

guy, but it's just that Gavin Newsom doesn't have the. He doesn't. I want him to run. I don't. I'm fine with Gavin Newsom running. I could decide at the time if we think he's good enough. What I'm saying is this isn't about someone running for office. It's about keeping people awake and fighting back against the worst things that are happening right now, now. And maybe getting them excited about whoever the next candidate becomes.

[B]

I think you'll be around for that. Whoever that next candidate thing is.

[C]

Yeah. I just don't want it to be at the end. Like, we need him now. His voice is neat. And there are middle of the road people who may not be paying attention enough, who notice when Barack Obama speaks.

[B]

Yeah, for sure.

[C]

I just. I just. I don't know who's gonna help.

[B]

I like it in small doses because it makes it special. I think. I think now would be great, but I think it would still. If he becomes wallpaper and we're seeing him all the time, we. It starts wallpaper like everything else. When he pops out now, it's special. When he pops out now and says something powerful, it's special. Like when he was out at the NBA All Star game and talking about their center in Chicago and the work that they've been doing. Special. This moment's special. I think we're seeing him every week from now through. Oh, I know.

[C]

If it's midterms or the next one. I know. I hear you. I just.

[B]

That would be my concern.

[C]

I hear. That makes sense, too. I just. It's not going to. Going well.

[B]

No, it's bad.

[C]

It's not going.

[B]

It's bad.

[A]

And we need someone.

[C]

We didn't even do the Gurus today. That's how you know things are bad.

[B]

I know, I know. Guru's back tomorrow for sure. I won't miss it.

[C]

All right. All right.

[A]

Love y'. All. 60k, let's go.

[C]

Thanks for 60k.

[B]

And also if you're in the tri state area, this weather the next couple

[C]

of days, oh, man.

[B]

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[C]

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[B]

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[C]

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