53.) Sex Addiction, Dating Apps, and Fertility on a Wednesday (3/11/26)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show – Episode 53

Title: Sex Addiction, Dating Apps, and Fertility on a Wednesday
Date: March 11, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This episode dives into deeply personal and culturally resonant issues—including male infertility, sex and validation addiction, and the wild world of dating apps—while mixing in timely commentary on current events (the Oscars, minimum wage, city politics), signature laughs, heartfelt listener moments, and trademark banter from the trio. Rosenberg previews his new podcast, "Validate Me," and the hosts reflect on the show’s growing digital impact, drawing connections between technology, relationships, and mental health.

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Listener Love and Show Reintroduction

[01:36-07:12]

• Listener Gift Spotlight: The show begins with the hosts unwrapping a heartfelt handmade card from a long-time listener, Stephanie Corral. The card, emblazoned with “We Got Plans,” prompts jokes and gratitude:
  • Ebro: "I made this small piece as a small thank you for the impact you’ve made on our lives." [02:33]
• Impact Reflections:
  • Laura: "It’s like a reintroduction to a lot of people. Because people used to get pieces of our show, now they get a whole chunk." [04:13]
• Fan Encounters: Ebro describes being recognized more on the street:
  • Rosenberg: "People outside a lot, bro. This show is moving around, people talking, and we still ain’t even unleashed all of our plans." [04:06]
  • Amusingly, Ebro shares a story about a listener whose wife calls him “the Black Rosenberg” because of his interest in Jewish studies. The trio riff on this unique compliment: "Maybe he lays that down and smacketh yaketh." [06:00]

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Team Life & Fertility Talk

[07:12-12:58]

• Producer Baby Watch: The crew jokes about Rahsaan’s (producer) absence to welcome his fourth child—unexpected, given he’d previously given away all the baby gear. Rosenberg: "That they just... stumbled to another one means the work is getting done. Let’s talk about it. ‘Cause kids don’t just happen willy nilly..." [09:26]
• Fertility & Parenting:
  • Ebro’s daughter Issa’s busy life sparks a conversation about parenthood’s demands.
  • Rosenberg shares a candid story about a friend messaging him at 6 a.m. to brag about his fertility. This segues into Rosenberg opening up about his own experience with male infertility and society’s silence on the subject.

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Male Infertility – Breaking the Silence

[13:05-15:44]

• Taboo & Testing:
  • Rosenberg: "One of the topics I want to get into at some point is male infertility, because it’s so not talked about." [12:01]
  • The group dissects the myth that fertility issues automatically originate with the woman.
  • Laura: "I had to tell a friend of mine, I was like, has he gotten checked? He's smoking and drinking and eating crazy..." [12:18]
• Rosenberg’s Journey:
  • He shares how an “extended search” ($800–$1,000 lab test not covered by insurance) finally revealed viable sperm, reversing years of anxiety and perceived shame.
    • Rosenberg: "The only thing I was truly private about... because I couldn’t handle, until I had a child, the idea of the Internet trolls being like ‘this beta cuck is infertile.’" [14:57]

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Preview: Rosenberg’s “Validate Me” Podcast

[16:00-22:08]

• Animation Trailer Debut: Rosenberg premieres the trailer for his new podcast, "Validate Me." [16:48]
  • Rosenberg (quote from trailer): "For me—and more and more people every day—the real addiction is validation. Swiping endlessly on dating apps, texting with strangers, or just opening Instagram for the 10th time in an hour, chasing that hit, that like. No one is immune. And the Internet, it wants us addicted. So let’s talk about it." [16:48]
• Deconstructing Sex Addiction:
  • Rosenberg asserts that “sex addiction” is a misleading term—what many experience is “validation addiction”: “You need to seek other people to make you feel good... For me, the issue’s not, I need to have sex with a million people. It was, I need to feel good from a million people.” [19:44]
  • The trio discusses the blurred line between normal behavior, compulsive seeking, and what constitutes actual addiction.
• Origins of Validation Addiction: Ebro and Rosenberg note how the hunger for external approval often springs from early family dynamics and parental love, predating social media’s influence.

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Sex, Dating Apps, and Compulsive Behavior

[22:08-27:24]

• Anecdotes from the Field:
  • Laura: Shares her actress friend’s LA roommate who’s “addicted to Grindr and Tinder: every night, a new person in the house. Sometimes two.” [23:33]
• The Dating App Era:
  • Rosenberg: “I am lucky that I was not ever single in the era of apps, because you [Ebro] the one off deep end, bro... My real life game was mediocre. My chat game, it’s an acquired skill. It’s a manipulative, acquired skill.” [24:16]
• Normal vs Addictive Patterns:
  • The hosts analyze when active dating is healthy vs when it signals a problem. They agree it becomes addiction when life is “unmanageable,” you’re spending money you shouldn’t, can’t stop, or feel shame and guilt but repeat the cycle anyway.

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Sex Trends in the Younger Generation

[27:44-29:30]

• Are Today’s Youth More Abstinent?
  • Ebro cites studies showing that young people today reportedly have less sex, use less social media, and drink less—with trends toward sober, wellness-focused gatherings.
  • Laura: Highlights the economic obstacles for Gen Z in NYC—CLUB costs, cabs, drinks—pushing many to stay home. “They just can’t afford it. Out the gate, a night out in town’s 80, 100, 120 dollars...” [28:47]

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Quick News & Culture Rundown

[33:33-46:47]

• NYC Politics: Ebro recaps recent city council moves: property seizure from abusive landlords, decriminalization of street vending, expanded free childcare, and proposed $30 minimum wage.
  • Laura: "That’s a custom card, Rosenberg." [03:24]
• Oscars Picks & Snubs [36:39-45:30]:
  • Laura shares Variety’s Oscar predictions and recent snubs, especially for the documentary “The Voice of Henry Job.”
  • Spirited debate over which Best Picture contender deserves to win: "Sinners," "One Battle After Another," "Marty Supreme," and sleeper picks like “Train Dreams.”
  • Rosenberg: "Sinners was average, guys. It was not Ryan’s best movie... the vampires came and I was like, I didn’t need the van—this. I just didn’t need a half-ass vampire." [40:08]
  • Playful bickering over personal viewing experiences and industry politics.

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Timothy Chalamet, Ballet, and Manufactured Outrage

[46:16-55:37]

• Chalamet vs. Ballet/Opera:
  • The hosts review the viral clip of Timothy Chalamet saying he doesn’t want to work in “ballet or opera,” calling them dead art forms. Outrage (including from The View and Doja Cat) follows.
  • Laura: “His grandmother, mother, and sister all danced in the New York City Ballet. This seems like a family issue…” [50:02]
  • Discussion on whether the backlash is real, manufactured as part of Oscars hype (“It’s a work!” [52:51]), or driven by the social media outrage machine.
• Access & Elitism in the Arts:
  • Ebro observes ballet and opera require significant means and parental involvement: “It ain’t free… to go very far in ballet, most of the time, their parents have the time to help them go far in that, which means they have the means.” [48:41]
• Reflections on Pop Culture Outrage:
  • Rosenberg: “Loosey goosey, me getting butt hurt because someone said they think an industry is dead… I can't be offended." [48:03]

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Guru Segment: Friendship & Emotional Boundaries

[57:51-60:43]

• Listener Dilemma: Email from a woman tired of hearing her best friend complain about an ex she will likely get back with. The crew weighs in with straight talk:
  • Rosenberg: “I'm not mourning this man with you. He sucked. We're not mourning that. That's how I'm not doing it.” [58:51]
  • Laura: “I've been there. You're not wrong.” [58:49]
  • The trio encourages healthy boundaries and humorously suggests the friend's obsession may be about the sex, not the person.

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Closing Reflections

[60:47-61:38]

• Evolving Show Focus: The hosts reflect on balancing politics and personal stories, aiming to keep the show fresh and relatable.
  • Rosenberg: "But it's important that we do that [politics]. That is also what makes us us. But I do want us to find a groove where we just talk about good stuff." [61:15]

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Notable Quotes

• On Male Infertility:
  • Rosenberg: “It’s the only thing I was truly private about... because I could not handle, until I had a child, the idea of the Internet trolls being like, ‘this beta cuck is infertile.’” [14:57]
• On Validation Addiction:
  • Rosenberg: “I believe the phrase ‘sex addiction’ is inaccurate and really does nobody any favors brand wise… it’s not about having sex. For me, the issue is not I need to have sex with a million people. It was I need to feel good from a million people.” [19:44]
• On Show’s Growth:
  • Laura: “It’s like a reintroduction to a lot of people... now they get a whole chunk.” [04:13]
• On Modern Dating:
  • Rosenberg: “My real life game was mediocre. My chat game, it’s an acquired skill. It’s a manipulative, acquired skill.” [24:18]

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Key Segment Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment | |-------------|-------------------------------------------------| | 01:36-07:12 | Listener spotlight & show reflections | | 07:12-12:58 | Team life updates & fertility conversation | | 13:05-15:44 | Male infertility awareness | | 16:00-22:08 | Validate Me podcast & rethinking sex addiction | | 22:08-27:24 | Sex addiction, dating apps, healthy vs. compulsive | | 27:44-29:30 | Sex and socializing trends among today's youth | | 33:33-36:11 | NYC politics/news flash | | 36:39-45:30 | Oscars discourse | | 46:16-55:37 | Timothy Chalamet, ballet, and outrage culture | | 57:51-60:43 | Guru segment: friendship boundaries | | 60:47-61:38 | Closing reflections |

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Tone & Language

The episode is frank, personal, and irreverently funny—balancing confessional moments with jokes and a healthy dose of side-eye at culture and media narratives. The banter is real: friends rib each other about age, history, and taste, but also support one another through life’s complexities.

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For New Listeners

If you’ve never tuned in, this episode spotlights why Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg remain fixtures in cultural debate: they blend sincerity, humor, and real-talk—tackling taboo subjects and viral culture with insight and self-awareness, leaving listeners both laughing and thinking.

Transcript

[Laura]

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[Ebro]

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[Rosenberg]

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[Laura]

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[Ebro]

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[Laura]

I am your host, Ryan Michele Bathey, with my husband Sterling.

[Ebro]

What's up?

[Laura]

Join us here on Hulu and Hulu on Disney, where we'll discuss each episode with the cast and crew of Paradise. I'll be getting all the secrets from Dan Fogelman, James Marsden, Shailene Woodley, Julianne Nicholson, and Sterling Kelby Brown. Paradise, the official podcast, is now streaming

[Ebro]

and stream paradise on Hulu and Hulu on Disney. Just don't call it a podcast. The Bro Laura Rosenberg show. I don't know. Did Rosenberg see the gift?

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Ebro]

It's a good way for him to start the show. Rosenberg, the gift. We got.

[Rosenberg]

We got a gift. We got a gift and they. Someone gave a card that says we got plans?

[Ebro]

No, they gave us a whole. They made a whole sign for it. Wow. Sure. You gotta put up on camera, Turn it around so the cameras can see

[Rosenberg]

which camera is best. That's the wide.

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

Wow, look at that.

[Rosenberg]

We got.

[Ebro]

Hold me.

[Rosenberg]

Get straight.

[Ebro]

We got plans. That is from a Stephanie Corral, I think is how you said pronounce it. Stephanie Carao Corral. Yeah. She wrote us a letter. She said, to Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg. Or made us a card. Excuse me. And the car says, we got plans. It says, to Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg, and Griff. I've been a listener since before any of you had kids. And over the years, it's been amazing watching you all grow your families. For so many years, every morning and traffic was spent with you all. From taking my son to daycare through high school.

[Rosenberg]

Whoa.

[Ebro]

You were all a part of our daily lives. The conversation segments and laughs got us through Those long drives. Ooh, bars. When the show ended, we all felt lost. You took a chance on your listeners and started something new. Not because you had to, but because you wanted to. The sh. That shows loyalty. I made this small piece as a small thank you for the impact you've made on our lives.

[Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Ebro]

Stephanie Carao. The old mom in the car. Stephanie. Your handwriting's not bad. She said sorry for the handwriting. I only learned script in school. Not Stephanie.

[Rosenberg]

Hair.

[Laura]

Right.

[Ebro]

It's too. And then.

[Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Ebro]

I'm assuming Sunny Acres. She put a card in here.

[Laura]

Maybe that's her business.

[Ebro]

It's her business. Sunny. So, Acres. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

That's really nice.

[Laura]

That's a custom card. Rosenberg.

[Rosenberg]

I see.

[Ebro]

I know.

[Rosenberg]

They don't say we got plans at Hallmark.

[Ebro]

So there's been this whole convo on the show about decorating the room. Should we put this on our little shelves back there? This goes. This is about as. As elaborate as what you guys were going put up there yesterday.

[Rosenberg]

Facts. Well, or should it be. Should it just be the sign? Should we just put her sign up?

[Ebro]

Put the sign up.

[Rosenberg]

At least let it live for a little bit. I mean, it deserves some love, by the way. Maybe things can rotate on the shelves that, like, come from Fox.

[Ebro]

Did you come up with that yourself?

[Rosenberg]

Just right now.

[Ebro]

Nice.

[Rosenberg]

But that is very nice, man. That's really, very cool. Really thoughtful.

[Ebro]

And shout out to all the. The. The. The listeners who stop us in the street. I don't know about you guys. Yeah, I've been getting stopped a lot.

[Rosenberg]

Really?

[Ebro]

People outside a lot, bro.

[Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Ebro]

This show is moving around, people talking, and we still ain't even unleashed all of our plans.

[Rosenberg]

No, not all the plans have been unleashed.

[Laura]

It's like a reintroduction to a lot of people. Because people used to get pieces of our show, and I think now they get a whole chunk.

[Ebro]

Do you feel like people are seeing more of us?

[Laura]

Yes. 100.

[Rosenberg]

You do?

[Laura]

100. Yes.

[Rosenberg]

I can't say that I know that yet.

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

I don't.

[Ebro]

You're not feeling that?

[Rosenberg]

I'm not saying I'm not feeling it. I'm just like. I got some love in the street yesterday. But they didn't say anything specific.

[Ebro]

Right. You know, I've gotten some real specific. There was a guy, I was sitting outside of. Of the Apple, one of the Apple offices yesterday, having a cold brew.

[Rosenberg]

Good for you. Okay. Like a job.

[Ebro]

3 o', clock, Ebro show on Apple Music. Matter of fact, El army needs y' all to lock in. 3 o'. Clock. Live on the Ebro show. Listen some tunes and stuff. But anyway, man walks up. His name is also Peter.

[Rosenberg]

You say his name is also Ebro. I was almost impressed.

[Ebro]

No, Peter.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro]

And he says his wife calls him the Black Rosenberg.

[Rosenberg]

The Black Rosenberg. And his name's Peter.

[Ebro]

And he was a Jewish studies minor.

[Rosenberg]

I think he said it's giving Cory Booker.

[Ebro]

But he said he listened to us in New York. Him and his wife are huge fans. Wow. They moved down south and moved back to New York and had been along for the ride the whole way, and they loved the show.

[Rosenberg]

Wow. Why. Why now? Did you. Did you get the explanation on why the Black Rosenberg?

[Ebro]

I assumed it was because of his interest in Jewish studies in Jewish history.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, is that it? But I'm not that interested in Jewish studies.

[Ebro]

Well, I think it was just a Jew. Peter. Jewish Studies Jewish.

[Rosenberg]

Peter's on a Jewish name. Peter's a Christian.

[Ebro]

No, no. Jewish person.

[Rosenberg]

Peter.

[Ebro]

Jewish studies. His name's Peter. Your name's Peter.

[Rosenberg]

And mostly the point is they listen to the show.

[Ebro]

That's it.

[Rosenberg]

That's the point.

[Ebro]

And she just wanted to call him the Black Rose.

[Rosenberg]

I. I love that.

[Ebro]

And maybe they have other interests or he has other interests that align with yours.

[Rosenberg]

Maybe. Or maybe he lays that down and smacketh yaketh. And she's like, damn, you're like the black Rosa.

[Laura]

Oh, my God.

[Ebro]

But the question. I don't know.

[Rosenberg]

That's what her imagination said.

[Ebro]

But does she know that you lay down and smack. That's what I'm saying.

[Rosenberg]

If that. Like, I could not.

[Ebro]

She assumes you get. You put it down.

[Rosenberg]

I connote that to her.

[Ebro]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

So with her, man, she's like, damn, you must be like the.

[Ebro]

That's the. That's the AA you're giving on the program.

[Rosenberg]

Can I dream up an aura? Come on, man.

[Ebro]

I wasn't negating it or debating.

[Rosenberg]

No, you were allowing it to live.

[Ebro]

Rock out.

[Rosenberg]

What?

[Ebro]

You hangout.

[Rosenberg]

Nah, that's really. That's. That's really cool, man. Shout out. Shout out to them.

[Ebro]

And I didn't delve deeper into the combo because I was FaceTiming with jazz, having a little before my next show. Ten minutes. Well, yeah. Yesterday was like, you know, getting Issa from school to Alvin Ailey and all the. All the different things we got to do during the week to. To make things happen. So it was just busy. I was just checking in, making sure things were flowing.

[Rosenberg]

Well. Listen, I'm not doubting that the. The movement is out there. I definitely Feel good outside? I just haven't had a lot of combos, but I haven't been to a lot of stuff recently either. You know what I mean? I haven't been outside that much, I

[Ebro]

think, and yesterday was interesting because it was a lot of people outside. The weather was beautiful. I mean, did you guys get a taste of the sunshine? Did you guys?

[Rosenberg]

Did I.

[Laura]

It was so nice yesterday. I walked everywhere. It was so nice.

[Ebro]

Good for you. I love that for you. Speaking of New York City. Let's go. We got somebody new producing the show today. His name's Joe.

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

If anything goes wrong, blame Joe. Yes, but ultimately blame. Still blame Rahsaan because he decided he wanted to have another kid. And I think they're at the hospital right now.

[Laura]

Huh?

[Ebro]

Yo, Rasa. Hey, yo, my man.

[Laura]

He's waiting.

[Ebro]

No, did we tell the audience? Yo, did we tell the audience that I forced Joe to come in against Rahsaan's wishes? We told them that. Rahsaan was like, nah, I' ma be there. Don't worry. I was like, bro, your wife is going to have a. She's gonna need to go to the hospital, have a baby. He's like, nah, nah, nah, I'm gonna make it.

[Laura]

I had to threaten him, Hebro. I was like, you better be there for her. What is.

[Rosenberg]

You know what I think's happening? I think Bascom knows that he's pissed off Ebro so many times with being late and things of that nature that he feels that if he skips his wife's birth to show his loyalty, that'll get Ebro off his back.

[Ebro]

You know what you need to do, Rahsaan not do wide shots that show a cardboard box with Rosenberg's drink on. How about that?

[Rosenberg]

And start the show not at 803.

[Ebro]

But these are the things that's way.

[Rosenberg]

Bro doesn't want you to skip your. Your child's birth. He just wants the show to start at 8:00'.

[Ebro]

Clock.

[Rosenberg]

That's it. And you're already here at, like, 7:00'. Clock.

[Ebro]

Yeah. So why can't we be on time?

[Rosenberg]

It's not so hard. Basco doesn't run in late and. No, he's here. But when it gets to be, like, close to time, we're looking at him. He's still walking around. We're like, wait. Talking to Louie and Griff, getting it close again. Chitchat.

[Ebro]

Yo, that's the chit chat crew over there.

[Rosenberg]

Nah, the chit chat's crazy.

[Ebro]

Chit chat's crazy. In the morning, I walk in sometimes. Griff's talking to Laura. I'm like, yo, we got five minutes to go. And he's telling stories about his sister and his mom and the kids. And Laura's like, really?

[Rosenberg]

I can't believe he's. By the way. I can't believe he's running this back a fourth time though. This is. It's so crazy. What?

[Ebro]

We're signed with the kid, man, four times. They didn't plan on it.

[Laura]

Listen, listen.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, they didn't because they gave away everything.

[Ebro]

Talk about lay them down. Smack it.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I guess. Yo, listen. Hey, I got one thing to say. God bless.

[Laura]

Yes, we're wishing you so much love. No, we're sending you so much love.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I mean that's crazy that they just three kids to just stumb to another one means the work is getting done. Let's talk about it. Cuz kids don't just happen willy nilly out of nowhere. It's not cuz you had sex once that a child was created.

[Ebro]

I mean for some.

[Rosenberg]

For some. But we timing generally learn up. You learn things got to line up. You know what I mean?

[Ebro]

Some people are fertile.

[Rosenberg]

I guess so.

[Laura]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

Some more than other. For sure. It does just pop off.

[Ebro]

Yo, I had a conversation early this morning cuz I was up. Issa. Issa's cooking some breakfast or doing something for parents at the school. She had to be at School at 6am today.

[Laura]

Oh my God. Okay.

[Ebro]

And they're doing like a pancake parent breakfast or something. So she's one of the. Or.

[Rosenberg]

Okay, okay.

[Ebro]

You know, my, my, my amazing daughter always volunteering for something at school outside of her other activities that she's already got outside of the other activities that the school already plans to just, you know, throw your schedule into a tail.

[Rosenberg]

Plus the show last Friday.

[Ebro]

Oh, star. People. People were what? She's ringing off.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, she was hot out here.

[Ebro]

Go ahead, bro.

[Laura]

That even our social was on fire.

[Rosenberg]

People love the Easter content.

[Ebro]

Well, anyway, I got a call from one of our mutual friends and for some reason he went our. All of us. Yes. No names for now. But he wanted to tell me how fertile he was as he gets prepared to get married and you know they're planning to have kids. I was like, yo, my guy. All right, I know I'm of a certain age now where you just like start talking about fertility, but I don't really need to know what's going on with your junk. My dude. At six in the morning. Six.

[Rosenberg]

Wait, wait, wait. We do we know this person's? Getting married.

[Ebro]

I think so.

[Rosenberg]

All of us do.

[Ebro]

I think you do.

[Laura]

Okay. All right.

[Rosenberg]

You know who it is?

[Laura]

I think I know who it is.

[Ebro]

But we all need to say names. And the audience. I ain't putting nobody business you can know.

[Rosenberg]

Can you send it to me?

[Ebro]

Okay, you could. We could do it after the show

[Rosenberg]

now, because it'll just give me intel on the conversation. But they just call up a Yo, my joints ringing off out here.

[Ebro]

No, no, it was. It was a little bit. It was a little bit more of an update of life than that.

[Rosenberg]

And then it. At six in the morning.

[Ebro]

Yeah. Because this person doesn't go to sleep, and I'm always like, yo, go to sleep.

[Rosenberg]

Got it. Oh, that. That's possible. I see what you're saying. Yeah. Well, listen, I say this. I hope that's true, because I've been on the other side of. I thought I was fertile my whole life. In fact, I had. I wouldn't say empirical evidence, but I really, really had every reason to believe that I was. And then when it came to baby time, guess what I learned? Not so much. My guy took a little bit of work from the old medical team, and I realized. I realized the other day. And this is one of the things I'm going to get into in the podcast that I'm starting that I'm never going to.

[Ebro]

We have that trailer ready for the new podcast.

[Rosenberg]

Wait, I don't know. You have the trailer still on deck?

[Ebro]

Because we've been trying to play this trailer for three weeks, and now we've transitioned to the actual topic, so.

[Rosenberg]

Well, this is one of the things that it's not, like, listed as one of the topics, but, like, one of the topics I do want to get into at some point is male infertility, because it's so not talked about.

[Ebro]

Well, and it needs to be talked about because dudes is out here unhealthy and not checking on their junk and blaming women, always.

[Laura]

That's the main thing. Cause they're like, you go get checked. You go to.

[Rosenberg]

Well, that's.

[Laura]

I had to tell a friend of mine. I was like, has he gotten checked? He's smoking and drinking and eating crazy. I was like, what makes you think you're. You could be the. You could. You could be the one.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Laura]

But he also could be the one.

[Ebro]

So this.

[Rosenberg]

That goes back literally to, like, forever, right? To the 40s, 30s, whatever it is. They've always assumed it's the woman. A man can't have a problem. But male infertility has been steadily on the rise for 20 years. And they don't. They can't, they don't know, don't show, and don't care about why infertility is on the rise. They really don't.

[Ebro]

It's probably a combo of a lot of. A lot of factors.

[Rosenberg]

Sedentary lifestyle, weed used cell phone in your pocket, laptop, porn. Who knows? There could be a million things.

[Laura]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rosenberg]

But one of the things I want to talk about on this podcast is that issue, because I realize so many men go through it and don't talk about it. And not only that, if you haven't been through the experience, you don't know some of the things to ask and do. I got. I at one point thought I was not having kids, was not gonna happen. Then got to a point where, like, it was like, okay, maybe there's a possibility, but, you know, we don't know how much, like, motile sperm is there, but. And then at like my fourth different person over the years, this is now, new wife, new life, back again, trying to get in the saddle again. The doctor was like, have you ever done an extended search? I was like, what's an extended search?

[Laura]

Extendo.

[Rosenberg]

And he was like, what's an extendo clip? And he was like, well, you know, when you go to the to get checked out and they tell you you have. They'll say you have 0% motile sperm or basically good sperm. Motile means ability to move. They'll say you have zero percent. He goes, that just means in the droplet that they looked at that it has zero. Then they deduce, because there's zero there, that you have zero. I was like, that. That's the whole system, bro. He's like, yeah, but if you do an extended search, they will look through the entire sample. I was like. He was like, but it's a bit pricey. I was like, oh, oh, that's why. Okay, here we go.

[Ebro]

Insurance don't cover how much.

[Laura]

Of course not.

[Rosenberg]

No, no. I go, how much? He was like, you know, like 800,000 bucks. I was like, I think I'm willing to spend that on this issue.

[Laura]

You're like, I thought you were gonna hit me with $25,000.

[Rosenberg]

That's what I assume must be some insane number. No. And so they did it. And guess what? The first time out the gate, they come back, they're like, yeah, we got a bunch we can use. You're good.

[Ebro]

And for years you had worried about this.

[Rosenberg]

Not only years. And I never wanted to talk about it. It's the only thing I was truly private about because I could not handle, until I had a child, the idea of the Internet trolls being like, this beta cuck is infertile. I couldn't handle it. And then I was like. But once I get to the point.

[Ebro]

You attack on your whole manhood, bro.

[Rosenberg]

People take fertility as. As if it's not first of all. Of course it can be that, like, you have an unhealthy lifestyle.

[Ebro]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

But in the case of many people, it's just luck of the freaking draw. Yeah, it's just.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Did the.

[Ebro]

The.

[Rosenberg]

The sperm say it's sperm?

[Ebro]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

You know what I mean? Joe, do you find that trailer? Oh, he's got.

[Ebro]

Check the trailer. Rosenbergs. Do you have a date for this launch?

[Rosenberg]

No, but after we show this and I see the excitement from the ELR Me, I'll give one.

[Ebro]

Okay, but do you have a place for them? Do you want them to go?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, yes, I do. I. I do. In fact, they will, but it's on the YouTube channel of the name of the show. All right, so after that, they can go subscribe right now. Okay, you need volume two, Ibrahim. Addiction starts early. I mean, really early. As a baby, it can be food that makes you feel better. Then you grow up, and maybe it's a drink, a smoke, a vape. And as life gets harder, the drugs get harder. But for me and more and more people every day, the real addiction is validation. Swiping endlessly on dating apps, texting with strangers, or just opening instagram for the 10th time in an hour, chasing that hit that like, no one is immune. And the Internet, it wants us addicted. So let's talk about it. Because like every addiction, validation will make your life unmanageable. Trust me, I learned the hard way. Way Validate Me a podcast about validation, addiction, and filling the void. Subscribe now on YouTube or wherever you find podcasts.

[Ebro]

Validate me, right?

[Rosenberg]

I love the animation Validate me show. Yeah. And there's a Validate Me YouTube channel as well that you could go subscribe to right now. Now, Laura missed the first 15 seconds because her headphones weren't plugged in, which was done it.

[Laura]

Oh, God.

[Ebro]

How did I. What do you mean? That means we were sitting here the whole time having a con. Headphones were never on.

[Laura]

You moved your foot. And that's when I was like, wait, how come I don't hear anything?

[Ebro]

Let me tell you something about Laura. We don't trust it.

[Rosenberg]

Well, you Know, you know, we don't believe that.

[Ebro]

No, nobody in here believes that. G actually just unplugged those headphones.

[Laura]

How do you think I was listening to you before?

[Ebro]

You were just sitting next to me. You thought it was the microphone.

[Rosenberg]

Validate me show on YouTube though, if you want to hit the sub. So if you want to subscribe to the podcast, that's going to be what it kind of focuses on is, you know, I call it validation addiction because I believe the phrase sex addiction is inaccurate and really does nobody any favors brand wise. Like, I don't think anybody wants what the whole walking around being like, yeah, I'm a sex addict is I don't think goes great.

[Ebro]

But on and it's not realistic. So today we drop a new Patreon.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, sure we do.

[Ebro]

And we talk about on the Patreon. I believe this was on the Patreon this week. Love from our parents. And you were talking about Mindy and, and, and hugging and this sort of thing. And you mentioned that maybe that's where your desire to get validated comes from.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, yes, I did, I did. I forgot. I was like, where are you going? Yeah, yeah, I did, I did.

[Ebro]

So while, while, yes, we point to these other things, there might be an origin story for a lot of people that is before social media, before the oh, oh, yeah. This is. That's kind of hardwired into who you are as a person. Maybe even why you want to be on a microphone. Maybe even why you want to perform for a living.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, 100%. It's all built in there. The behavior is the symptom of the problem. Right. What is the problem? Like sex addict. That's why I hate the phrase sex addict. Because sex addict people drop like, yo, my man, I'm a sex addict too.

[Ebro]

You know what I'm saying?

[Rosenberg]

I'm out here, gotta slay everything. And it's like, no, my guy. That's not every guy we know. Generally not every guy. Most guys want to pursue women. I understand that, but this is about something else. This is about craving another person to make you feel whole. And then when it's like very often, but when it's your partner, that partner is no longer enough. You need to seek other people to make you feel good and regularly. All the time. All the time. And that's again, why the phrase sex addiction to me doesn't work. Because it's not about having sex. For me, the issue is not I need to have sex with a million people. It was I need to feel good From a million people.

[Ebro]

I need to know I could have sex with a million people if I wanted to. Because I want to feel dope. I want to feel hot, I want to feel fly. I want to feel whatever that feeling is, even though I don't actually want to do the work because I'm lazy. I'd rather just go to sleep.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. If that part. Well, no, it wasn't the laziness. It wasn't the laziness for me. It was the plausible deniability that if I go do that, that's too much. But I could draw a line, which, by the way, is crazy addict talk. Right. That's the same as gambling. Now we're into gambling addiction. I'm never going to do blank or

[Ebro]

no, even alcohol where people like, I can stop whenever.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I don't drink. I don't drink on weekdays, though.

[Laura]

I heard alcoholics say, ah, stop drinking. I'll have a beer every now and then. But that's nothing. That doesn't count. What?

[Rosenberg]

Well, it's. I mean, alcohol is so complicated though, too.

[Laura]

No, there's alcohol in beer.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, but you can be like a. Later in. I do believe that they're changing. Some people are changing the idea of what alcohol recovery looks like and that there could be people that depending on your kind of addiction, maybe there's a stage in your life where you could have some level of relationship with alcohol. Because not everyone's version of whatever your addiction is, not every version is the same. I had a. I had a dear friend who is no longer with us, who I met in program based on all these problems. Sex addiction, validation addiction. Now he was a real sex addict. For real. I was in meetings. I was a bore. I was like, compared to everybody, bro. They were like, now. No, not for the. For the first few months, I was fun because I was weeping through the whole meeting. So I think people were like, oh, here comes crying guy. Let's get this stories cracking crying guy. But then once I was like, okay, I'm pretty boring, my man. I won't say his name because that's totally against what the idea of it is. But my man, who's no longer with us. Yo, man. My man's stories were wild. And as he got into recovery, he still would occasionally have wired stories, wild stories. But they were inside what he believed were a healthy, sober lifestyle for him. You know what I mean? It's not your plan. And program isn't necessarily always gonna be. I just don't do anything like this. It's about Your life becoming unmanageable. You know what I mean? So you may not be having sex with anyone, and you may not even be sexting with anyone. You may not be talking to people. Your validation addiction could be scrolling.

[Ebro]

Yeah, it could just come from like, comment section, right?

[Rosenberg]

It could be comment section. It could be, you know, searching Google News. If you're a public person who's like, I gotta see if anyone's talking about me. Right? There's so many different things that it can be.

[Ebro]

Validate me. New podcast.

[Laura]

People dismiss sex addiction. Sex addiction. They just. That's why that ain't real.

[Rosenberg]

Because the name is trash. I'm telling you, they came up with a name that makes people A, judge you, and B, like, A, make you think you're a pervert. You sound like a creep. And B, it's not even accurate, bro.

[Laura]

And it can happen to anybody.

[Ebro]

So now is it true you could be a sex addict?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

You're only having sex with your partner, but the way your partner has to be there for you and please you, and you are not interested in what, but they're feeling like you're just like, I need sex for sure. So I. I've heard that's a thing too. And people are like, that's not a thing. You're in a relationship. And I'm like, well, but if your partner's not right, enjoying this, doesn't want to do certain things, and you're like dangling the relationship over it or acting as if you're gonna leave because they won't or whatever. For sure.

[Rosenberg]

It's not just cheating. Right?

[Laura]

Right, right, right.

[Ebro]

And I'm just adding that into this whole kind of, you know, you could

[Rosenberg]

be not having sex at all and be a sex addict. There's so many different levels to what it could mean. That's why I think the name is not quality, let me tell you.

[Laura]

So one of my best girlfriends moved to la. And, you know, rent's expensive and she's a up and coming actress, you know, so she had. She has to get a roommate. Yo, you guys. She told me that her new roommate was addicted to Grindr. Grindr? Yes.

[Ebro]

You mean Grindr, like people just popping up and having sex and.

[Laura]

What's the other one?

[Rosenberg]

Tinder?

[Laura]

Yes, and Tinder. Both health. She. She said her new room every night, a new person in the house.

[Ebro]

Oh, yeah.

[Laura]

Every night.

[Ebro]

Well, yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Well, you gotta go because I can't.

[Ebro]

You can say you're addicted to Grindr and whatever. No, you're a sex addict and you're a yo.

[Laura]

That's crazy. She was like, every night a different person sometimes, too.

[Rosenberg]

Guys, I got news for you, but

[Ebro]

slutting, Yo, People have their slutty phase, man.

[Laura]

That's not normal.

[Ebro]

What? To have a slutty phase?

[Rosenberg]

No. Every day. Every day, every night, every day.

[Ebro]

I'm not saying it's normal. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that people have phases.

[Rosenberg]

But I'll just say this. I am lucky that I was not ever single in the era of apps,

[Ebro]

because you the one off deep end, bro.

[Rosenberg]

I was meeting people. I was meeting people online when that wasn't a thing. Like when I was 18, ASL, I was ASL. So, like, chat rooms, yo, you name it, I found it. I. Bro, come on. It was. It was built in my DNA so early. If I'd gotten to the point. And not only that, my real life game was mediocre. My chat game, it's an acquired skill. It's a manipulative acquired skill where you can learn how to talk to people in a way that kind of makes them come back for more. Right? If I've been on the apps in the era multiple times, there are people just walking in from one date to another.

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

They got a 6, they got an 8, they got a 10.

[Ebro]

This is 6 to 8 to 10. What do you mean?

[Rosenberg]

Three different dates?

[Ebro]

Oh, you mean time?

[Rosenberg]

Yes. 6p coffee, 8p, dinner, 10p drinks, all lined up every night.

[Ebro]

But is that. But if they're not hitting it, that's just dating, right?

[Rosenberg]

Is it? Or. Or do they have a problem? They can't stop doing it. It's every day. And they're spending money and they're tired at work the next day, and their life has become unmanageable every day.

[Ebro]

I forgot the everyday part. Yeah, y' all make more.

[Rosenberg]

No, it'd never be you.

[Ebro]

Y' all make. I was just your regular run of the mill. Can I hit that guy?

[Laura]

Wait, wait, wait. Because you' these streets. Did you ever go on the AOL chat rooms?

[Ebro]

No, I never did that.

[Rosenberg]

Did Ebro do that?

[Ebro]

I just wondering if I wasn't even on MySpace.

[Rosenberg]

Nah, come on, bro.

[Ebro]

And then. And then I was mad that everybody thought Facebook was different than MySpace. That was like a whole year for me. Everybody was like, yo, you got to get on Facebook. I was like, isn't the same as MySpace? No, it's different. It's only for students and you have a different email. I was like, same thing.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, Ibro, I love that Ebro's always been old. Even though his take is correct, it's still such an old man take. Isn't that the same thing?

[Ebro]

It's the same thing.

[Rosenberg]

But you were right. But. But it's. But this is why I want.

[Ebro]

But I was also remind you, I was in clubs every night. No, that's so. No, but I'm not. I'm saying. But sex addiction. Similar, right?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, but you were a normal. You were actually a healthy version. No, you.

[Ebro]

No. I don't know.

[Rosenberg]

You had ability to do well and you were outside and single.

[Ebro]

That's. That's fine.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's normal.

[Ebro]

Yes, mostly. But it was. I was outside, outside.

[Rosenberg]

But any guy. Bro, you were. You were a person of note from very young. You're outside in the club, cool guy hosting, like, it's a lot of good stuff.

[Ebro]

And the thing that actually saved me, I think from being too crazy was the fear of getting robbed.

[Rosenberg]

You had fear of everything. Fear of aids, fear of getting robbed.

[Ebro]

Well, people was getting AIDS and getting robbed. I didn't want to be one of them.

[Rosenberg]

No judgment. I think these are great fears to have. But that'll keep you. Here's the thing though. When you're an addict, those fears don't matter.

[Ebro]

You think you could beat it, it's

[Rosenberg]

not going to happen. Or you're willing to take the risk. And then the next day you're going, I'm never doing that again. Here's the. I will say this and not that. This was not meant to be a preview of Validate me. Because we'll get into it one day when I start this soon. But if you get to the point with anything where you go, nah, I'm not going to do it like this anymore. I can't. It's hovering over my head. I feel guilty. I'm never doing this again. I'm not doing it again. And then within a couple of days, you find yourself doing it again. That's a problem. That's a problem. You know what I'm saying?

[Ebro]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

I don't think what you were doing, you were like, oh, man, I don't want to hook up with another hot chick at the club again. I feel terrible about that. Never cry. You were like, that was pretty good. I wonder if it'll happen again.

[Ebro]

Maybe, maybe not. Maybe I meet somebody new. We don't know.

[Rosenberg]

But this is. This is all gonna get so much worse because now we're of the age these kids are.

[Ebro]

I don't know. I'm hearing it's the other way. I'm. They're saying studies are the other way.

[Rosenberg]

Studies.

[Ebro]

They said.

[Rosenberg]

They said kids aren't having sex.

[Ebro]

Kids are having less sex and using less social media. Media and not drinking and. Well, but that's. So that's the. The kids not drinking thing. They're saying, but they are doing pills and they are doing these other things. However, there is a trend of these kind of like. What do they call them? Like, health parties where people are gathering, listening to music. It's early in the day and they're like yoga parties or like, you know, I don't know, listening to music and like, you know, what's the other thing that people do?

[Rosenberg]

Meditating.

[Ebro]

Meditate.

[Rosenberg]

Nah, swear I was joking.

[Ebro]

Meditate, listen to music, have a good meal, and that's the social gathering for the day.

[Rosenberg]

Where is this happening?

[Ebro]

I mean, I just read an article about it.

[Rosenberg]

Never been.

[Ebro]

Never been.

[Laura]

I know. I know because I'm around 16 to 20, like three year olds. They don't go out. I'm like, you don't. I don't go out to parties. No, it's too expensive. We can't afford it. You don't drink.

[Rosenberg]

Parties are too expensive.

[Laura]

They're like, no one has house. So I mean, I meant like more like clubs. Excuse me, Club clubs. Next to expensive.

[Rosenberg]

In New York, it is harder to have house parties.

[Laura]

They're. They're like, a drink is $20. I'm like, you're correct. I have home. To get home safe is 50, $60.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura]

They just can't afford it.

[Ebro]

True.

[Rosenberg]

You're out of the gate, yo. Isn't that crazy?

[Ebro]

Out of the gate.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

A night out in town's 80, 100, 120.

[Rosenberg]

That's if you have one drink, because that's dinner. Cab. No, but how you're done. Because it's 50 to go anywhere. If you're going from the boroughs, you

[Ebro]

want to go to the city with your friends. Now you get to train. But the train girls like you don't love it. They don't love it. Listen, ladies and gentlemen, this is a great Talk. We spent 28 minutes on your new podcast. Well.

[Rosenberg]

And also turned into something else.

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

You know what I'm saying? But if you want more like this, subscribe to the Patreon, the ELR show on Patreon. New Patreon dropping today. You guys want a Mom Donnie update?

[Laura]

What's up? Yes.

[Rosenberg]

Who's Mom Donnie?

[Ebro]

This is called Ebro's stuff on Ebro's algorithm.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro]

This is just Stuff that pops up. I'm gonna start doing a new segment periodically to break up the monotony of our combo.

[Rosenberg]

This is different than Ishiro Set.

[Ebro]

Same thing, but I couldn' say ish. Ebro scent was.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, you're changing the name?

[Ebro]

Yeah, its algorithm feels more.

[Rosenberg]

How about Ebro's Algo?

[Ebro]

Ebro's Algo. Love it.

[Laura]

Okay, Mom.

[Ebro]

Donnie, update. Let's check it out.

[Laura]

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[Rosenberg]

Zoron. Zo.

[Ebro]

Zoron. Is that.

[Rosenberg]

You have a number for him?

[Ebro]

10. Joe. 10.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, 10.

[Ebro]

There you go. Day 69 of the Mumdani administration. Here's what changed in the last 24 hours. FALSE Spring arrived. The Mandani administration got one step closer to seizing property from criminal landlords. The Safer Homes Act, a bill from council member Sanchez, had a hearing at the city council council. It would let the city take entire buildings from landlords with piled up violations and unpaid taxes. Responsible owners.

[Laura]

This is a pathway towards stabilization and responsible ownership, including community and resident ownership.

[Rosenberg]

And the city council just decriminalized street vending in New York City, which means

[Ebro]

street vendors will no longer face arrest,

[Rosenberg]

jail time, or criminal prosecution or conviction simply for selling food to support their families.

[Ebro]

This is a big move, even though two of them just moving into a guy. Street vendors. The mayor just expanded free child care again.

[Rosenberg]

We're adding more than 1,000 seats to 3K programs in 56 different zip codes across the five boroughs.

[Ebro]

That's on top of the 2,000 new spots announced last week. And council member nurses introducing a bill to nearly double the city's minimum wage from 17 to $30 an hour. And the Department of transport announced a full redesign of 14th street with safer crossings, bike infrastructure, and new plazas stretching the entire width of man. That's progressive. Change in the city isn't just coming from one office. Not bad for 24 hours. Oh, yeah. Did you guys see the dolphin?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I saw the dolphins. Yeah.

[Ebro]

Dolphin was cute on some. On a springish day.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, the dolphins was. People were very excited about the dolphins every year.

[Ebro]

Every year I feel like there's a. Wasn't there a dolphin like up. Up in Bronx. Bronx river last year or something?

[Laura]

I'm like, get out of here. It's dirty.

[Ebro]

Nah, that's the whole story, though, Laura. They cleaned them up.

[Rosenberg]

The. The one that was in the. In the Bronx.

[Ebro]

Yeah, that. No. Well, they've cleaned up the Bronx River a little.

[Rosenberg]

Oh. And as a result story.

[Ebro]

And then the dolphins in these wildlife.

[Rosenberg]

The dolphins. The dolphins name Lord was Belcher.

[Ebro]

Why'd you name the dolphin after Cardi B?

[Rosenberg]

No, just. Just picking a Dominican name.

[Laura]

Yo, he sent me this like, I. This IG video of like crazy Dominican.

[Rosenberg]

It's the best. It's the best. It's so real. It's so real.

[Ebro]

You Francis.

[Rosenberg]

The one I did not believe, though, was Disney World.

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

No, I did not believe Disney World is the name. I don't believe it.

[Ebro]

That goes back to the end thing. Usnavi.

[Rosenberg]

Usnavi, the real thing. That's real, though.

[Ebro]

Usnavi is real. I thought it was just a bit for the play. Nobody. Does anybody actually know us? Navi.

[Rosenberg]

There. There are names. There are real names in the video I sent that were real. That are Usnavi and Jace, but U.S. navy, Usavi. Oh, I didn't even think.

[Laura]

It's too ridiculous. Nothing.

[Rosenberg]

Nothing crazy.

[Laura]

Just know that.

[Ebro]

Laura, you ready for the rundown?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Yes.

[Laura]

Let's go.

[Ebro]

Laura got the run down.

[Rosenberg]

Turn that up.

[Ebro]

Screens on glow when she pull up headlines heavy. But we still caught I still flashing.

[Rosenberg]

We don't slow.

[Laura]

All right, now Forbes release, it's updated the richest people in the world less. And Dr. Dre made the cut for the first time. Yo, one billion. That's a lot of money. I don't think people. People throw the billion word around. They don't realize I'm a lot of money.

[Ebro]

I'm numb because Elon Musk is at 870 billion nabro.

[Rosenberg]

He's on his way to a trillion. It's so crazy.

[Ebro]

Well, and it's. He, Elon Musk is the richest man Forbes has ever reported on officially.

[Rosenberg]

So. So he's the richest man of all time.

[Ebro]

Well, other than Mansa Musa, but that's a different time.

[Rosenberg]

Matsamuta Masamusa, who was Matamousa again, he

[Ebro]

was the head of the Mali empire in Africa.

[Rosenberg]

Got it.

[Ebro]

They say he was the richest man ever lived.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, listen, nearly A trillion dollars is great. Respect to Mata Musa.

[Ebro]

It's Mansa Musa. You got to do the knowledge.

[Rosenberg]

Respect to Mansa Musa. Is this related to Matzah Pizza?

[Ebro]

No, it's Mansa. Mansa.

[Rosenberg]

Mansa Musa. Musa shouts to Mansa Musa.

[Ebro]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know if he cares for the shout out on ELR, but I don't know if he got to 870 billion, bro.

[Ebro]

Yeah, they said his. I mean, they have said he had

[Rosenberg]

like the whole world.

[Ebro]

Well, yeah, like the whole gold of the Bali Empire, West Africa, and then, like did a pilgrimage, so he might

[Rosenberg]

have had more time and literally gave

[Ebro]

away so much gold, it like enriched all of North Africa.

[Rosenberg]

Well, another way, very different. Another way that is not like Elon Musk.

[Laura]

Yes, very different.

[Rosenberg]

Right, But Elon Musk is African, so we have that going for.

[Ebro]

Wow.

[Laura]

Okay, don't ruin the joke. I don't know if you guys peeped this, but Live Nation reached a tentative settlement with the Department of Justice. So remember, they were trying to break it up, break up the whole monopoly, Live Nation, Ticketmaster. Yeah, yeah, that ain't happening.

[Ebro]

Well, yeah, because Trump got in the way. Right, I heard.

[Laura]

Yep. So the original lawsuit was filed in 2024 under the Biden administration. And then, of course, it proceeded after Trump took office. Now, the Trump administration opted for behavioral changes. I was like, what is that? So basically, it's just having Ticketmaster open up, you know, ticketing platforms to its rivals. That's it. So other people can sell tickets, too, in a way.

[Ebro]

So in a way that's saying, hey, we've broken up the monopoly because you have to allow competition. But really?

[Laura]

Yeah, not really all those crazy. Because the big argument was also all those crazy fees. Remember, that was a big thing.

[Rosenberg]

Well, I think that was the biggest thing. People were fighting.

[Laura]

Yes. Well, yeah, all of that's going to stay the same.

[Rosenberg]

But that was the important part.

[Ebro]

Yeah, but I read somewhere that two hundred and something million dollars is going back to states that sued. So some states want some money and there's other states that aren't going with this agreement. They have lawsuits that are going to continue.

[Laura]

Like New York is one of them. They're going to continue.

[Rosenberg]

So what's the short of it for the people?

[Ebro]

The short of it for the people is Ticketmaster is going to keep doing what they was doing.

[Rosenberg]

Nothing should.

[Ebro]

And you got choice. And you can go to other places to buy tickets.

[Rosenberg]

But you can go to other places to buy tickets.

[Ebro]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

Okay. So that's something.

[Ebro]

Something I get But I don't think that's what people were gunning for.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro]

And I think the real headline came out is. Was because it was getting buried, because there's other news going on that people are just not covering this a lot, you know, like a war.

[Rosenberg]

Sure.

[Ebro]

Epstein Files.

[Laura]

Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's what they're trying to.

[Ebro]

Things like that not to talk about.

[Rosenberg]

But.

[Laura]

Okay. So yesterday, this is just fun. I saw Variety did a whole, like, Oscars prediction. Right. So they were talking about all, you know, obviously all the big movies. Frankenstein, Marty Supreme. One battle after Another. The Secret Agent. So this is who they think will win. Could win. Should win. All right.

[Rosenberg]

Who they would think should win. Could win.

[Laura]

Will win.

[Rosenberg]

Will win.

[Laura]

And should have been nominated. I'm curious to see what you guys think. They think will win. Sinners. Best Picture.

[Rosenberg]

They think Sinners will win Best Picture.

[Laura]

Yes. Could win One battle after another.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Laura]

All right. Should win. The Secret Agent.

[Rosenberg]

The Secret Agent. I don't even know the Secret Agent.

[Ebro]

I didn't see it.

[Laura]

And should have been nominated. Was the voice of Henry Job.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, nice. Should have been nominated, but wasn't nominated.

[Ebro]

But wasn't. I thought that when the voice of Henry Job was a documentary you covered on the program.

[Laura]

Yes, yes.

[Ebro]

Spike Lee was a producer on that. Right.

[Laura]

I recently found out.

[Ebro]

And that one is controversial, obviously, because it's giving voice to the Palestinian strike. Correct.

[Rosenberg]

But. But it has a lot of big Hollywood weight behind it, too.

[Ebro]

Yes, but still wasn't nominated. Not enough.

[Rosenberg]

Well, how.

[Laura]

Brad Pitt was involved in it too.

[Rosenberg]

I think it was Brad Pitt's production company. Yeah. Yeah. So a bunch. A bunch of big people put their names on it. That's right. But setting myself up to just get screamed down as Zionist Jew boy. But how often do documentaries get up for Best Picture?

[Laura]

It's not a.

[Rosenberg]

It's not a doc.

[Laura]

I don't know. It's not really considered a doc. Is it.

[Rosenberg]

Is it a film? Is it acted? Or is it a. Is it.

[Ebro]

It's a doc.

[Laura]

Reenacted, I guess.

[Ebro]

There's reenactment.

[Rosenberg]

It's reenactments.

[Laura]

Yeah. Little parts.

[Rosenberg]

But it's a. But it's a doc.

[Ebro]

No, it's more of a doc.

[Rosenberg]

It's not a. You're not following. An acted film.

[Ebro]

It's not a scripted film.

[Rosenberg]

No, no.

[Laura]

Okay.

[Ebro]

That's the word.

[Rosenberg]

I'm just saying. I mean, listen, and this is.

[Ebro]

Should have been nominated for Best Picture.

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

You're saying Best Picture.

[Ebro]

That's tough.

[Rosenberg]

That's. That's what I'm saying.

[Ebro]

That's tough.

[Rosenberg]

You can easily make the argument it wouldn't be because of all the reasons that it wouldn't be. But also, movies like that don't generally get nominated for Best Picture.

[Ebro]

Just saying.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, let's look for the last one. They nominate some weird things.

[Ebro]

But we could also just throw our hands up and be like, you know what? I like the narrative that y' all didn't nominated because y' all hating. Well, but that's right. That's right. Oscars, y' all scared.

[Rosenberg]

But is it nominated for best Documentary?

[Laura]

I'm. I feel like I saw that it was check.

[Ebro]

So it's nominated for something.

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

Just not Best Picture.

[Laura]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I. I don't know. The Secret Age agent.

[Ebro]

Never. Never. I don't even think I've heard of it. I like what they got on Sinners though. Let's see if it happens this Sunday.

[Rosenberg]

Best Picture, Sinners. Guys, it was, it was.

[Laura]

Griff is like, no, it's a fun.

[Rosenberg]

It's a fun movie. Yeah. Michael B. Jordan, Best Actor. I'm in.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

Best Picture.

[Ebro]

Well, I guess I'm just thinking about what's better that you like this year.

[Rosenberg]

I liked One Battle Battle after Another better.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

For sure.

[Laura]

I didn't see it, so I don't.

[Rosenberg]

What else is on the.

[Ebro]

I like One Battle after another. But it wasn't. It didn't do it for me like Sinners did.

[Rosenberg]

Sinners didn't do it for you like Sinners did?

[Ebro]

Well, I'm just comparing those two.

[Rosenberg]

You like Sinners better than that?

[Ebro]

Yeah. Personally, I did.

[Rosenberg]

Really?

[Ebro]

Yeah, I enjoyed Sinners a lot.

[Laura]

I really like Sinners too.

[Ebro]

But I. And I liked One Battle after another. Not saying I didn't like that either.

[Rosenberg]

I take a lot of risks to make black people get mad at me in the chat. Sinners was average, guys. It was not. It was not Ryan's best movie. That it was. It was cool. The beginning was fire. I was on the way to it being epic. And then the vampires came and I was like, I didn't need the van. This. I just didn't need a half ass vampire.

[Ebro]

When I felt the same way about one battle after another at a certain

[Rosenberg]

point about which part of it just went too long, where it was going, all of that. I do agree that as it went,

[Ebro]

driving down the road in the cars and this whole thing and he's on the side of the road, that that

[Rosenberg]

is to me what prevented it from being. Oh my God. The Best thing I've ever seen. Because the first hour and change.

[Ebro]

Fight.

[Rosenberg]

I was.

[Ebro]

I felt the same way about Sinners. That's why I'm just comparing what's.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, I'm. I'm with you. I actually think it's a fair. I don't think I'd put either as my best picture.

[Ebro]

What else are we saying this year?

[Rosenberg]

Well, Laura, give me the list really quickly.

[Laura]

The voice of Henry Ja was nominated for best international feature Film. Not doc.

[Rosenberg]

Best international feature film. And let's see if it wins.

[Laura]

Yeah, let's see.

[Rosenberg]

Because that will lead to. And will they put it on the show? Show.

[Ebro]

Oh, will you see if you scared

[Laura]

or not, man, Listen to the audience go. If you can watch it. It is so powerful. I was sobbing watching that.

[Rosenberg]

So here. Here's what's. Here's what's fully up

[Ebro]

this. Best Picture Oscars this Sunday.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, this Sunday.

[Ebro]

The Secret Agent, which we none of us are familiar with.

[Rosenberg]

Begonia Fire.

[Ebro]

You love Bonia. I didn't watch. Great.

[Rosenberg]

Do I think it was. Do I like it, like, much better?

[Ebro]

Is it better than.

[Rosenberg]

It's in the same realm of. I really liked it because to be clear, I'm trolling people just to troll. I really liked Sinners. I just didn't think it was the best movie I've ever seen.

[Laura]

Okay.

[Ebro]

You're also thinking of the best movies you've ever seen. We're talking about the Oscar.

[Rosenberg]

But this year, Marty Supreme. Didn't see it, but heard it.

[Ebro]

I saw it. It was good. I like Marty Supreme.

[Laura]

You did Sinners?

[Ebro]

No.

[Laura]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

I heard Marty Spring was in.

[Ebro]

I like Marty Supreme.

[Rosenberg]

You really like this?

[Ebro]

Yeah, I really enjoyed it. I had fun. I went to the premiere. It was fun. It was cool. I got the little orange golf ball.

[Rosenberg]

But he went. But he. He was all, you know, Marty supreme doubt. You know what I mean?

[Ebro]

What do you mean?

[Rosenberg]

You were at the hospital?

[Ebro]

I sat in a room by myself with a bunch of students. It's not like I was hanging out with Timothy Chalamet and Tyler, the creator.

[Rosenberg]

That's what I thought.

[Ebro]

I sat by myself in a room.

[Rosenberg]

You actually got a really good, honest viewing.

[Ebro]

Yeah, I was just sitting there with a bunch of kids.

[Laura]

All right.

[Ebro]

I was like, this is the seat y' all gave me. Matter of fact, I need to bring this up. I think they actually. The celebs were, like, in theater, and they just put me in a seat in a room with a bunch of people. I was like, with students.

[Rosenberg]

With students.

[Ebro]

Because Tyler and Them did walk in and present it. And then they left and probably went to another theater or.

[Rosenberg]

Or didn't watch the movie.

[Ebro]

I think they went down the hall to another theater. You think there was a dead.

[Rosenberg]

Was it the day of the big premiere? Yes.

[Ebro]

It was like the premiere.

[Rosenberg]

Hold on. The. The real red carpet premiere was also there?

[Ebro]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

And they put you in the loser theater.

[Ebro]

Why you. I had to frame it like. That was with students, man.

[Rosenberg]

It was students. What was Tyler there?

[Ebro]

He didn't sit in that room.

[Rosenberg]

What about Timmy?

[Ebro]

They left.

[Rosenberg]

So.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

You weren't in the A room?

[Ebro]

No.

[Rosenberg]

You got disrespect.

[Ebro]

I was in the B room.

[Rosenberg]

Super Bowl E, Bro.

[Ebro]

This is crazy.

[Rosenberg]

They don't. They ever seen the super bowl half. So you got Marty supreme here. Here's one that I have heard from basically everyone is incredible and has the big feel of Best Picture. And I know it's real because when I saw the trailer for it, it looked so boring I almost fell asleep. But I hear it's amazing. Is Train Dreams.

[Ebro]

Never heard of it.

[Rosenberg]

It's about. It's about the west and Native Americans and like it's supposed to be some really deep, amazing movie. Very best Picture.

[Ebro]

Don't sound more John Blaze than Sinners. Let's go Google.

[Rosenberg]

They hating F1.

[Ebro]

I like F1 a lot.

[Rosenberg]

Here we go. Here comes Apple Boy. Here comes Apple boy.

[Ebro]

I like F1 a lot.

[Rosenberg]

Best Picture type picture's tough. It feels crazy.

[Ebro]

Right up against sinners and all right,

[Rosenberg]

here's the next one that I heard is amazing and didn't see it yet.

[Ebro]

Wait, did you guys see F1?

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Ebro]

Know you'll really enjoy FY.

[Rosenberg]

I'm going to watch it. I'm definitely going to watch it. It's just like, you know, I love my. I love Damson indras. So I am interested.

[Ebro]

That's why

[Rosenberg]

Frankenstein supposed to be phenomenal.

[Laura]

I heard it. I heard that. It's really.

[Rosenberg]

How did you. De los Muertos not go see Guillermo Dia dero.

[Ebro]

Did not go see it.

[Rosenberg]

Did not go see Guillermo del Toro. I know. In Frankenstein. Hit it with the button.

[Ebro]

Congratulations. You played yourself.

[Rosenberg]

Now then there's. Then there's hamnet. Net, which is supposed to be amazing.

[Ebro]

Wait, how many pictures get in?

[Rosenberg]

They do 10 now. It's too far.

[Ebro]

Too much. I'm done.

[Rosenberg]

Sinners wins one battle after another.

[Ebro]

Now, how long they been having 10 movies in it?

[Rosenberg]

Like 10 years at least.

[Ebro]

Okay. I was gonna say they added more movies to try to take.

[Rosenberg]

No sentimental value is the last one. I haven't heard of that one either.

[Ebro]

But look, it's either. It's either F1 one day after another or that's it.

[Rosenberg]

The ones you've seen.

[Ebro]

That's it.

[Rosenberg]

Now Hamnet is supposed to be brutal,

[Laura]

but what is it about?

[Rosenberg]

It's about a baby dying. Like a child dying and the parents recovery.

[Laura]

Watch that. Can't watch that.

[Ebro]

Where's my. Out of here.

[Rosenberg]

That doesn't mean it's not great though.

[Ebro]

No, it could be great. I'm not saying not watching it.

[Rosenberg]

Neither have I.

[Laura]

So I can't take it.

[Rosenberg]

But that's what's up this Sunday. I don't. You know what? It's not a bad list of films though, compared to other years. There are years, guys recently, where we've been like, oh, we saw one, right? And they were sending us the DVDs and we still only saw one.

[Laura]

I know.

[Rosenberg]

So this is a pretty good year.

[Ebro]

DVDs.

[Rosenberg]

Is Marty supreme. Really Best picture material? The ping pong man.

[Ebro]

It's not about the ping pong thing is a. It's not really that.

[Rosenberg]

It's not that.

[Ebro]

It's not that. It's really about a New York kid who comes from, you know, just. Just hustling, trying to figure it out. Kid.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro]

And. And he. And he's finessing this ping pong thing.

[Rosenberg]

Got it.

[Ebro]

And that's really what a fun movie. But. And it. But it's also really a. I think it's also kind of about addiction and validation and like pushing the limits and like not knowing when to quit. And this guy, he's. Marty's a disaster now that I think about it.

[Rosenberg]

Got it.

[Ebro]

It's not like a.

[Rosenberg]

Woo.

[Ebro]

He run a ping pong tournament. No, not what going on.

[Rosenberg]

He's a mess. No, I got to watch it. I think it's. I think that's now out to be seen. So I want. I do want to see a few of these. Maybe I'll try to see a couple more before Sunday.

[Ebro]

Speaking of Timothy Chalamet.

[Rosenberg]

Chill, chill.

[Ebro]

Are you guys following this latest debacle of sorts, the opera ballet?

[Rosenberg]

I'm seeing. I'm seeing that this is a big thing. That he's getting roasted for being anti opera.

[Ebro]

I don't. So I've only. I only saw Doja Cat saying something.

[Rosenberg]

That was it. That's all you saw.

[Ebro]

I heard Misty Copeland came out with some.

[Rosenberg]

It was. And it was people before that too. It's been like a week now. We're. Can I.

[Ebro]

Can I Actually, see what started it all. The actual Timothy Chalamet clip. Have you seen it? Do you even know what he said?

[Rosenberg]

I have read what he said, so I'd like to see it.

[Ebro]

Let's, let's. Let's have a look.

[Rosenberg]

And I don't want to be working

[Ebro]

in ballet or opera or, you know,

[Rosenberg]

things where it's like, hey, keep this thing alive. Even though no one cares about this anymore.

[Ebro]

All respect to the ballet and opera people. No, you can't. I just lost 14 cents in viewership. I just took shots for no reason.

[Rosenberg]

That's not a shot. I hear what you're saying.

[Ebro]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. Keeps going.

[Laura]

By the way, I think they were also cooking him. Cuz his mom is a. Was a ballerina.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, well, that might be why he feels like he has more insight in it and that. That it felt like. It didn't feel like it was.

[Laura]

No, his mom was a former ballerina.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, this is.

[Ebro]

Well, why didn't. Why didn't they come for McConaughey? He was.

[Rosenberg]

What you mean? Cuz Mahe was just having a conversation with someone and going, no, I hear what you're saying.

[Ebro]

And. Well, no, he was like, you're not taking a shot. I hear what you're saying.

[Rosenberg]

But. But, but that's because. What? McConaughey. Oh, I don't know why they didn't come from McConaughey.

[Ebro]

Because McConaughey could have been like, yeah, that was unnecessary.

[Rosenberg]

But it wasn't. That's. This is being. I mean, listen, they're sensitive.

[Ebro]

Ballet and opera. Hang on. Yo, ballet and opera. Hive. I want to see y'. All Come for Rosenberg. Here we go.

[Rosenberg]

I don't agree with what he said exactly.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

I am down to get sensitive about defending a group of people who, because of their. The color of their skin, religion or sexual orientation, disability, whatever the thing is that defines them. I am down to be sensitive and defend anything. Loosey goosey, me getting butt hurt because someone said they think an industry is dead or they think an art form isn't popping like that. You may say you're an idiot. That's totally not true. Being offended by it. No, I don't. I can't be offended by it. It's offended. People are offended.

[Ebro]

Well, I think the thing that hit me, and by the way, I thought it sounded wrong, by the way, I just saw that for time. The first. First time.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

The thing that struck me about the whole conversation was like, he. First of all, Issa does ballet.

[Rosenberg]

Okay?

[Ebro]

It ain't free. And the people who go very far in ballet, most of the time, not all the time. Most of the time, their parents have the time to help them go far in that, which means they have the means.

[Rosenberg]

Sure.

[Ebro]

It's to do it. It's.

[Rosenberg]

They both are things of means.

[Ebro]

Opera also. It's not.

[Rosenberg]

But what was the rest of the conversation? This is where. This is where we.

[Ebro]

Chalamet was just talking about himself and,

[Rosenberg]

like, why he wants to be an act. Is it, like, is it about I want to just be in mainstream movies? Is that what he's comparing it to?

[Ebro]

That's what. That's what I took from it.

[Rosenberg]

See, that's the thing.

[Laura]

We don't only saw the clip because

[Rosenberg]

even that, we still didn't see the overall context. What I think is funny about the clip is he knows he's big enough that he's like. As he's doing it, he knows this might be bad, and he's still kind of being silly. So then I don't think he's being that. I don't think he's being that serious.

[Ebro]

Well, then the View jumped in. Clip 12.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, the view's in.

[Ebro]

The view is in.

[Rosenberg]

Which one was it? Was it neocon or libtard? And now he's facing new criticism over his take on the arts during a town hall discussion with Matthew McConaughey.

[Laura]

Well, so his grandmother, mother, and sister all danced in the New York City Ballet. This seems like a family issue,

[Rosenberg]

but

[Laura]

I also feel like this is a good example of where people are so American culture centric. Like, these are international art forms. Like, ballet is everywhere. And it's not only not declining, it is huge in other places where the access is even better. So I find it an interesting that maybe he came from a place of not knowing that. Well, ballet is art. He did go to LaGuardia High School. Ballet is an art form, and it's very popular here, too. And as a member of the Dance Theater of Harlem, a classically ballet black troupe, I'm offended and disappointed in what he said. I didn't realize that he was that vapid and that shy.

[Rosenberg]

Well, you know, I think it's more

[Ebro]

about him being young and you sitting with Matthew McConaughey and y' all Kiki

[Laura]

Kiing, and it's all right, all right, all right.

[Ebro]

You're right.

[Rosenberg]

So I think he thought he could say that first.

[Ebro]

He just made the good ping pong movie.

[Rosenberg]

So, you know, he's a young, handsome man. I like this person who's this one.

[Ebro]

You don't know Cheryl Underwood.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, Cheryl Underwood. She's a regular on the View.

[Ebro]

I mean, clearly not. If he was playing him in a

[Rosenberg]

movie, he would respect the art form

[Ebro]

a little bit better. And that goes to show. Show. A lot of young people need to understand. Don't just flip off and say something.

[Rosenberg]

Really understand that your words have meaning.

[Ebro]

People flip off and say stuff all the time. Including you, Cheryl Underwood. You're a comedian and a staunch Republican. I wonder if she's still a star.

[Rosenberg]

Underwood. She was, as you can see. I don't know that much about her as I didn't recognize her, but I thought her original take was good. I didn't know that. Yeah, I don't know. My View.

[Ebro]

White lady up there shucking her shoulders. When Cheryl Underwood was talking about.

[Rosenberg]

No, when she went, all right, all right, all right. That's a Matthew McConaughey bit.

[Ebro]

Oh, God. I was more offended by that. Yeah. No.

[Rosenberg]

What?

[Ebro]

No, I can't date no young, handsome. You can date anybody you want. You know, I have no problem with

[Rosenberg]

it, but you come from a dance

[Laura]

family, and so this is the longest

[Ebro]

clip we've ever played.

[Laura]

Thank you.

[Ebro]

Yo, y' all be cutting clips up Nice. Why did you clip so long?

[Rosenberg]

Good.

[Ebro]

It doesn't.

[Rosenberg]

So real quick. We're just.

[Ebro]

We.

[Rosenberg]

There's so much going on right now. If this. Again, like I said, if this was about people. Yeah, like, I'd be more. It was a dumb. I think he's wrong.

[Ebro]

Well, I just wanted to see if you guys saw it. I didn't even think he actually cared.

[Rosenberg]

Was mad. I mean, was.

[Laura]

Do you think really made it a thing? Doja Cat.

[Rosenberg]

No, that was like, the latest in.

[Laura]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

That's how you saw it. I'd already been seeing it move for a few days before. Do.

[Ebro]

I think it's. Honestly. Honest? Honestly, I think it's a work.

[Rosenberg]

This is.

[Ebro]

This.

[Rosenberg]

I thought about this this morning when I was outside with Bear. I was like, did Ebro really just say in our text that he thinks it's a race by the battle,

[Ebro]

by the way, leading into the Oscars. Oscars on Sunday. Chalamet's all the talk. Boom. It's a work. B.

[Rosenberg]

They're stirring this up, so I want to go on the ride with you. So who is benefits? Yeah. No, who's leading it?

[Ebro]

I don't know. The ballet.

[Laura]

The ballet industry sister and his grandma. Listen, this is what we're gonna do.

[Ebro]

Chalamet Hive. You know, I mean, it's all a troll, remember? And this is the other thing that struck me, too. The Marty supreme rollout. Remember how they were active, that marketing was.

[Laura]

That made it seem like it was going to be the greatest movie in the world. And I think that it backfired on them because a lot of people were so like, this is gonna be insane.

[Rosenberg]

It got overhyped.

[Laura]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

And then they. And then, remember, they turned into the big Hype of Chalamet vs Michael B. Jordan, which seemed like such a forced. This forced conversation of who's better and who should be thought of. And meanwhile, both of them are nominated for bad stuff. I think Michael B. Jordan has been the more decorated one throughout the season.

[Ebro]

I never even saw the Michael B. Jordan versus Chalamet combo.

[Rosenberg]

What?

[Ebro]

Never saw it.

[Rosenberg]

Come on, bruh.

[Ebro]

How does that not make.

[Rosenberg]

Your algo is drunk.

[Ebro]

But that's the whole. That's why we're gonna do this on the show. New segment. Ebro's Algo.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, Ebro's Algo Griffs with your algo. You saw that, right, Laura? Michael B. Jordan vs. Timothee Chalamet was a whole thing. Like people were doing think pieces. Tor whispering. Did you see that? Timothy Chalamet and Michael B. Jordan.

[Ebro]

Somebody asked tor have him come whispering. Rosenberg's here on the program. He loves a terray whisperer.

[Rosenberg]

I want to understand why certain people don't understand why you. Is your mom upstairs? Maybe you're allowed to make.

[Ebro]

Maybe the kids.

[Rosenberg]

You're a grown ass man. Make the video. No, but that was a big thing, too. So you're right back to your point. There has been a lot of hype just around the show.

[Ebro]

I was like, really? We're doing ballet, opera. It's.

[Rosenberg]

You could totally disagree with the point that. That, like. Because think about the point he's trying to make is whatever he was trying to say that led him there is. I wouldn't want to be a part of these things that are kind of like fighting.

[Ebro]

I'll take it further. I'll take it a step further. I was just watching Sonny. I. I've met Sonny multiple times. Very nice person. I. I didn't even believe you, son.

[Rosenberg]

No. She got so serious.

[Ebro]

I. I felt like y' all sat around in a production room was like, somebody's got to be really offended about this for this to move as Sonny was like, as a Harlem dance theater, ballet, alma mater, whatever. I'm offended. Even the panel didn't even know what to do. That improv was terrible.

[Rosenberg]

When she said, I'M offended. I didn't know he was that vapid, flimsy or whatever she said. I was like. I mean, he's a kid. It was. He thinks that. I get. I get what he was trying to say, but obviously those things are very popular. But we're not going to act like they're mainstream popular. They're not.

[Ebro]

No, they're not.

[Rosenberg]

Name an opera singer, guys. Name a current. Name a current current. Not Misty Copeland, another ballet dancer.

[Laura]

I just know.

[Ebro]

Well, Miss.

[Rosenberg]

She's retired. She retired?

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

That's the only thing I know about ballet, is that Misty Copeland retired. So we're not going to pretend that they're mainstream. They're not, but they're huge. Bocelli, Pavarotti, is he still around?

[Ebro]

He's still doing his thing.

[Rosenberg]

It's Pavarotti still around.

[Ebro]

He's doing his thing.

[Rosenberg]

I have no idea. Pavarotti. I'm going to be honest with you. Pavarotti could be 75 or 80 years old or dead for 30 years. I have.

[Laura]

Don't know.

[Ebro]

That's not nice. Nice.

[Rosenberg]

I'm just telling you the facts.

[Ebro]

The opera hive's coming for you. I don't know why we playing with these Pavarotti.

[Rosenberg]

Pav.

[Ebro]

The dead.

[Rosenberg]

He died in 2007. Died in 07. So I missed it by seven. By 20 years. Oh, I can't believe B's gone.

[Ebro]

Yo, why are you doing this? What's wrong with you?

[Laura]

Totally. Then don't leave.

[Ebro]

Why are you doing this?

[Rosenberg]

No, that. I missed the news.

[Ebro]

No. Why? What's wrong with this guy? Yo, let's get. Yo, get to the guru, bro. Come on, man. Why is this guy. He really wants the opera. Hop on, you know, you, our beautiful queen Ebro. Don't ever play yourself. You're not a guru.

[Laura]

Breathe in. Breathe out. The original gurus. Gmail.com. the original gurus. Gmail.Com. right? To us, Tim.

[Rosenberg]

No one even shouted out your man Bam out of Bayou 83 points last night. Today.

[Ebro]

Yo, shout out to Bam. Yo, love lifts people higher, man. Seeing him and his lady and her just loving on him after he did that. It's great scene. They're both being amazing, professional. Asia Wilson and Asia Wilson.

[Rosenberg]

Beautiful story. And the only other thing that can lift you higher than Love is taking 41 bleeping free throws.

[Ebro]

That's crazy.

[Rosenberg]

No, at the end of the game, he just kept taking the ball and trying to score. They were up like 30 points and he. I respect him for going for it, by the way. I would do the same thing. I'm not knocking this. He just kept going for it. And then the whack ass, pathetic wizards kept fouling him. So, like the whole fourth quarter, he's just shooting free throws, too.

[Ebro]

So it's now. Is he making the free throws?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, he shot. He shot like 36 or 43 or something.

[Ebro]

That's amazing.

[Rosenberg]

I'm a little irked that he broke Kobe's record and did it with so many more shots and so many more free throws than Kobe. But it's still very cool.

[Ebro]

Very cool.

[Rosenberg]

Very cool shots to be a metabolite.

[Laura]

All right, who's out there? Who needs us?

[Rosenberg]

Laura? Many, many people are in need and they send their emails to the original gurusmail.com. the original gurusmail.com. send your email today. You may hear yourself tomorrow. Hey, Gurus, I love you guys and I just want your opinion on something. I have a best friend who's always going through something with her boyfriend. She always complains about him and has even said that if she could go back in time, she would never have talked to him in the first place. And I'm the one she usually vents to, so I hear all of it. Her and her boyfriend recently broke up, but I have a feeling they're going to get back together. So am I wrong for not wanting to hear anything when it comes to him or wanting to be involved when it comes to them? Are you wrong? No, you're not wrong. That's not wrong. From the beginning, you're saying you heard he was whack and you wish they never met. Now they broke up, you're not in the mood to hear about, oh, my God, I'm so sad when you know for a fact she told you. I. I didn't. I shouldn't even been this guy in the first place.

[Laura]

I've been there. You're not wrong.

[Rosenberg]

No. Tell her. Hey, you made the right decision. Let's not waste any more time. You said it yourself, you never should have been with him in the first place. You're right. I know you're sad. If you want to go out, if you want me to help lift you up, if you want me to help have fun with you to get you back, I'm there for you. I'm not mourning this man with you. He sucked. We're not mourning that. That's how I'm not doing it.

[Laura]

You choose to get back with them, that's on you.

[Rosenberg]

That's on you.

[Ebro]

And I'm glad you went there, Laura, because the next Question you need to ask is, is are you still talking about him because of that dude? Because if he was really whack Lord, why are you still talking about him?

[Rosenberg]

But that doesn't mean that he's not whack. That. Doesn't that make it even easier? It's like, oh, so you had good sex with the guy. Move on.

[Ebro]

Maybe not. Some people struggle with that. They want the sex or they confuse the sex with actual feelings.

[Laura]

Yeah, that's true.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Laura]

But when it comes to a best friend here, you don't have to hear it.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And. And by the way, though, be comfortable though, though, knowing that then if she does get back with him, this, your friendship will probably take a hit.

[Ebro]

Well, but that's why I'm saying investigate and find out it was it do. Did. Is this really about him in the bed? Is this really about the dick?

[Rosenberg]

Cuz then you could be like.

[Ebro]

Cuz then every time it comes up, you can be like, stop. It is. You're just saying that because other good

[Rosenberg]

sex out there, it's cool. You'll find something.

[Ebro]

You'll find somebody else. Stop. It wasn't about his personality. You hated hanging out with him. You didn't like this. You run down the list of all of the things. Things. You're just talking right now because you're horny. You'll find somebody different.

[Laura]

And there is a possibility. Yeah. That she's going to be like, all right, and choose him and you're cooked. That's.

[Ebro]

No, but then once again, no. But then once again, you could be like, look, you just went back because you're shallow and you just wanted some dirt.

[Rosenberg]

Like Eazy said, Addicted to what the did.

[Ebro]

There you go.

[Rosenberg]

But yeah, you're not wrong for the feelings. Just know that there's a chance because we've seen it a thousand times where the good friend who's there gets left out because she goes back to the whack. That dude. We've seen it. Tale as old as time.

[Laura]

Say the guru.

[Ebro]

So say the good.

[Rosenberg]

That was a fun show. I enjoyed today's program.

[Ebro]

You know why?

[Rosenberg]

Because about me.

[Ebro]

Yep.

[Rosenberg]

I knew you were say it. No, cuz you know what? I was think. Cuz literally last night I thought we're. We. We hit show 50 last Friday and I was thinking about, like, the show and how it's going and how I feel like we're doing. And I feel like the one thing we can do too much of is we're also focused on the political climate that we can do days where it's all politics for like the first 45 minutes.

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And I. And I. But it's important that we do that. Like, that is also what makes us us. But I was like, but I do want us to find a groove where we just talk about good stuff. And I thought that's what today was. Covered a lot of stuff today.

[Ebro]

No, I'm just listening. You're observant. Just listen. I feel both. All right. Some days I want to do what you're talking about. Some days I don't.

[Laura]

That's what he's saying.

[Rosenberg]

That's what I'm saying.

[Ebro]

And that's why I was just listening.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro]

Why are you trying to get me to disagree with you?

[Rosenberg]

Because you do a lot of this.

[Laura]

I know you.

[Ebro]

You had just.

[Laura]

You had a funny style face.

[Rosenberg]

I'll just say I thought it was a good.

[Ebro]

Different.

[Rosenberg]

It felt a little different.

[Ebro]

I didn't even say anything.

[Rosenberg]

Man. He's like a mother, you know?

[Ebro]

Now I'm a mom. Now I got boobs. Oh, no. Now you trying to.

[Rosenberg]

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[Laura]

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