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Just don't call it a podcast. Are we on? Oh, thanks for the signal there, Rosenberg.
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Oh, you.
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I was reading the Ebro Algo videos that I sent over by the. By the tonnage mixed batch yesterday. In my humble opinion, mixed batch is actually a win for me.
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No. Oh, for me, it's a big win. That's a big win. Yeah. You're batting like you. Like a baseball player.
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I'm going to the hall of fame.
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3:30.
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I'm going to the hall of Fame. Ladies and gentlemen, we back for another week of shenanigans and good times with you. Thanks, everybody. In the super chat for the. For the love all last week, and I'm sure y' all gonna kick it off again this week. Remember, there's a hype button when you watching this after this show goes live and anybody watching it later on in the day, hit that hype button. It helps you get going in the algorithm. And if you're watching live right now, make sure you hit the thumbs up. The like, you know, all the things. El Army. Represent yourselves in the chat. Where you watching that?
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Stand up, El Army.
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You know what I mean? Let us know where you watching that. We'd love to know more about you. How was your weekend, Laura style?
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It was good. I was locked in. Kids party. You know how that goes. Gotta swing one of those and just. Yeah, just hang out with the family. It was good.
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That was it.
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Yeah, we ran into each other.
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Where'd you guys run into each other?
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Vintage Con.
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I don't know what this is.
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You could figure it out, though, couldn't you? So my boy shouts to my guy, top shelf Premium. He had a little off top cipher with underground artists at VintageCon. He asked me to come through and host it.
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A bunch of these are still supporting the underground in New York. You're not from here.
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I know. It's what. I just like to do it as a foreigner, you know, so. So came through and did that and then Laura hit me because Ricardo saw me on Stories and was like, oh, Rosenberg's at the thing. So they popped by and I got to see the whole family.
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Where was vintage con?
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18 West 18th Street.
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It was it like in a large facility. Is this a small?
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I've been in there. It's like. It's like some space that they use for things like fashiony thing, fashion econs.
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I feel like I've been there. Don't they do like friends and family shopping things over there?
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By the way, I'm gonna tell you right now, I'm sure Laura's been seeing this.
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The.
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So like the Polo vintage has now hit like a new peak. It's never been in before.
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Oh, yeah.
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It's crazy. Yeah. Like it's out of control.
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Well, you know, on the. On the act. So I'm a big polo shopper on the Polo app now. Literally in on the polo. You could buy polo vintage on the app. On the po. Ralph Lauren app. They have a vintage section on the app. They sell their own vintage.
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But are they. But is it vintage or it's their recreated vintage?
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No, no, no, it's vintage.
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Like expensive vintage.
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Yes. Oh, these are like $2,000 pieces.
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We're gonna keep this for ourselves.
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A small of whatever from 1987.
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Wow. So, yeah, apparently there was like a Rob Report article about Polo vintage. Like it's become its own and it makes sense, I realized because, like, they had so many different styles. Like it's the ultimate clothing to collect.
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Right, right, right.
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They had everybody. A million of everything, you know, but those sweaters, bro. A classic bear or the usa. It. It sucks that it's not a great time to want to wear USA stuff because I see a lot of stuff that I'm like, that's fire.
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I'm not spent, by the way. I was never into the usa.
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Really? You didn't like the. I loved the plain navy. A plain navy sweatshirt with the collar and just the USA I thought was fire.
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I was never into it.
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I like the bear.
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The bear. I was in rugby.
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Bear with usa.
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Yes.
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Rugby's I was in. Letterman's I was in. Yeah, yeah. And you know, there's. What is it? Bobby's in Boston. Have you heard of that store before?
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No.
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So there's a man, black man, in Boston.
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Bobby.
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Bobby. I believe it's Bobby's in Boston. Correct me in the chat if I'm. If I'm screwing up the name. But anyway, it's a vintage store in Boston or right outside Boston. And the family runs it now. Bobby passed away, but double R.L. like Ralph Lauren. Like the high end Ralph Lauren kind of outdoorsy stuff and vintage look. Bob, they say Bobby's in Boston is like the OG spot. You could still go there by appointment only and look at like racks and racks and racks of blazers and rugby's and leathers and pants and all this Ralph Lauren
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real quick. So shout out to VintageCon. They do a nice job. Speaking of appointment only for clothing, we were at the Moynihan Train hall doing our college, our big east tournament show that we do Every year.
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This is espn. This is Don Han and Rosenberg. Every day three.
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Yes. And we started. We always interview the same, like, few biggies, people. And like, listen, it's a cool show, but now it's like my third year doing it. I've interviewed Walter Berry from St. John's yeah. Charles Smith from Pitt. It's the same guys, blah, blah. I'm kind of like sitting there like, they're lovely guys and the. The woman who runs the Big East.
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But you're bored.
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But I'm a little bored. Like, I'm like. I'm kind of looking at the guys.
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I said he was bored. He didn't say he was bored.
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Yeah. Thank you. I wasn't. Board's the wrong word. Ebro. Because I love the great people from Schweppes. I love the great people from Schweppes who sponsor.
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Shout to Schweppes.
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Shouts to Schweppes. Great time. Love that. We could do that on our own show now. You know what I mean? Shout out to Schweppes. So Walter Berry, who was the star of the St. John's team in the early 80s and mid-80s, is there and he's talking. It's a cool interview. But all of a sudden, Alan Hahn goes, yo, Walter, I heard you have some Mike Tyson stories. And I naturally perk up a little, as you guys might expect. Tell me how this man, Walter Berry, the first story he tells is about running into Mike Tyson. When Mike Tyson was on the come up in 86, Tyson says, I'm gonna be heavyweight champ. Walter Berry's already a big deal. He's like, ah, it's cool, man. Good for you. I'm glad. This is when Mike Tyson's like, knocking out tomato cans one after another. But he's not the man yet.
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Okay?
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The next time, he's like, my man John. John. I forget what the guy's name was. Comes by my house with Mike in the roll in the Rolls Royce drop top, and my mom came out, took a picture with him, blah, blah, blah. Then the next time, three stories. The next time Mike hit me up and said he was going to Dapper Dan's. Why did this man tell the. He was at the Mitch Green fight at Dapper Dan.
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Wow.
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He was Ebro. That's where the story went. And not only that, this guy drops. Walter berry's probably late 50s, 60 now, early 60s.
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I don't know. Walter Berry is.
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He was The Star of St. John's
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yeah, I remember his name.
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But you know he drops this, though. Yeah. Matter of fact, I was tapping Mitch Green's girlfriend. I thought he was coming for me.
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Oh, my God.
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He didn't use the word tapping, but he said dating, I believe.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
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He thought Mitch Green was coming to knock him out. He's like, I have my. He goes, I had one of those brick cell phones in my hand. I was ready to knock out Mitch Green myself with the phone. Mitch Green comes in, starts grabbing Mike's pockets, starts feeling on Mike's pockets, told the entire. But he. When it ended, he got in the car and drove away with Mike Tyson.
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That's crazy.
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That's the number one Mike Tyson street story of all time.
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No, it's up there. You're still excited three days later.
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Couldn't believe it.
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Look at you, the way you're just frothing about it.
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Frothing.
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No, you can't. You look at. You look at your eye. You can't even.
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And I felt, you know, as you guys know, in every interview, when there's a reason to ask about Michael Jackson or Mike Tyson, I do it well.
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I think the fact that I hadn't
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done it was disappointing to me.
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Listen, you. You talk a lot on this program.
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Yeah.
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And the real thing people need to learn about this story right here is now you're no longer bored when you do your point hand, all interviews.
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Anything can happen. No, just do a better interview. What it means is just do a better interview.
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Well, that means you're a hack and you step your game up.
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He went right to hack. Right. We told Trigger. Rico,
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the trigger. Listen, it was a busy, busy weekend. You're gonna be covering Oscars.
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I am. I got you.
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All right. Which was shout to, man. Listen, we'll. We'll get into it in the rundown.
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Yes, yes.
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But also, yo, congratulations. You played yourself. Congratulations. You played. Yo, Dominican Republic. Y' all was supposed to beat the USA yesterday.
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What happened? I don't know if they were supposed to beat them. I think USA was favorite to win the whole thing.
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No, I know, but still, you were
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supposed to be in my algorithm.
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Dr. Was favored to win everything.
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Exactly.
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Yeah. I don't know. I didn't watch that, but, yeah, they won.
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You don't like the World Baseball Classic as far as.
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Do you know, the things I. There are a lot of great things I don't make time for baseball that. Here's what the US did in the World Baseball Classic. One guy was unwilling to shake the hand of his Mexican teammate, his real teammate in Seattle, Cal, Raleigh. The best player was unwilling to shake Rosa Reyna's hand because they were on different teams in the World Baseball Classic. Complete yo, yo, nonsense. Not here for it. Then they had the Navy SEAL who was part of killing bin Laden speak to Team USA before they played Canada in the World Baseball Classic. Hit the button, bro.
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What is that?
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Yo, The Dominican team was dancing to classic music.
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The.
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The. Every culture, every team was doing a cultural fun thing.
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Okay, we're talking about killing in war. Here goes the video for y'.
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All.
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The American baseball team literally had the guy who killed Osama bin Laden do the pre game speech before playing Team Canada. Can we talk about how crazy that is? Like, all these other teams are just
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leaning into their culture. The Italians have an espresso machine in the dugout and an Armani horn home run jacket.
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The Canadians have been rocking hockey gear.
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Basically the whole tournament.
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The Dominicans are dancing, celebrating, bad flipping, having fun, and leaning into their baseball culture. And what are the Americans doing? They literally had this guy gather everyone
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around and sit down for story time about killing Osama bin Laden.
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Man, that's weird.
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That's. He nailed it. He nailed it.
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Well, no, it's not really weird. I don't think it's weird.
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No. Why? That's all we.
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What else would they be doing?
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Right. Well, guess what, though, you're taking.
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Would they be celebrating black culture? Would they be celebrating Italian culture? Would they be celebrating Irish culture? What culture would the USA actually be celebrating? That's not violence.
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Honestly. With baseball? Snowboarding. No, with baseball. It's baseball. Right. You could come up with literally eating a hot dog.
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You could have crack dog content.
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Sure, whatever.
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You're goofing off. But our culture is violent.
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Violence. That's our number one thing. And. And so. So real quick, you're going serious enough that you got to have the Navy seal, but we're also not serious enough that we are the only team in the World Baseball Classic who had players who left at the end. There were certain players who were like, yeah, I'm going to go back to spring training. I'm wrapped up here. I did my. How am I, as a fan, supposed to care about the tournament when players on our team leave before it ends?
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Now, question. Is it true that the Italian team.
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Yeah. Has Posada as a coach? Yes.
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How is he Italian? I don't know.
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On one side, I guess. You know, these other teams need some.
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Some teams with it. I just didn't know if there were rules, like. And listen, I know some of my. I have some Puerto Rican friends who swear by through osmosis. They're Italian now. Like, just because they live in Staten island or wherever. They're just like. They have an accent, and it's. It's like, bro, you're not.
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But Posada's Puerto Rican.
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Yes. He was King Lou.
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He's half Italian, half Cuban, but was
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born in and raised in Puerto Rico. Half Italian, half Cuban, but born and raised in Puerto Rico.
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Oh, so he. So he's like, kind of legitimately all three in a lot of ways. Right. Both parents are one thing, and then he grew up in another place, and he wanted.
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And he probably just wanted to coach,
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too, and they gave him the opportunity to do it, and Team Italy ended up doing really well. So you're still in it. Team Italy, usa embarrassing themselves, as per usual. And in the hockey, when we do great, then it becomes all about Cash Patel pounding beers. And, you know, no matter what we do, we. We seem to slip and fall.
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This weekend, the big conversation on my algorithm was Jack Harlow. Yeah, he put out an album. He put out a. They called him Music Snow Child.
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No, I thought Music stole Child.
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They called him that, too. They also called him Most Definitely not uncommon. We have the list of names they've given Jack Harlow.
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Uncommon. Oh, God.
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Let's get this picture up. I actually think somebody should have called him Michael McDowell.
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I thought I said.
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Oh, that was yours.
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I. I said that on social media. I like that one. Okay. Michael McDowell. Here's the list of name. Lint condition, Neo Colonizer, Soul Music Stole Child. Ninth. Ninth. Wonder Bread. Charlie. Kirk Franklin.
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Nah, Charlie. It's not right, though, because Kirk Franklin is an R and B. That's the only reason it doesn't work.
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Oh, my God.
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Yo, throw that back up, Lou. I'm not done. I mean, rasa. My favorite up here, though. I'm going to tell you the home run. What? Luca Vandross, the home run.
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No, that's some. This is. This is quality.
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White thought is funny.
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Luca Vandross, though, is a home run. Ghost face, Vanilla ll, Cool Whip, Honky, honky, honky. Instead of Tony. Tony. Tony had me, though.
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No, that's. That's. That's lazy.
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You could do.
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You could do better.
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Now, if you're not tapped in and you're wondering why he's catching all this vitriol from the Internets, it's because rapper Jack Harlow decided he wanted to. And this is his quote, get blacker and drop a soul R and B album.
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But here's the. But here's the question. Would any of the vitriol have been there had it not been for those terrible quotes in the New York Times interview? Maybe, but not the same level at all. Right.
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Yes. So he decides it's a good idea to go sit with Caramonica and what's the Other and Coscarelli at New York Times and have this discussion. Let's check it out.
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John saying you didn't retreat into a whiter genre. In fact, you arguably went into deeper into. I got black music. Yeah. Deeper into black. So unnecessary. Is that. Was that conscious? Was that a little twist on the typical move that white rappers make, which is to retreat back into traditionally white sounds? It certainly made what I already wanted to do even more appealing. Absolutely. Because you like pushing that boundary, that line. I think I love black music. I love the sound of black. Who among us? I love the sound of black music.
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Yeah.
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And of course, I'm hyper aware of the politics of today, that safer landing spot that a lot of my white contemporaries have found. And of course, it appealed to me to do something that I felt like at a time when there's plenty of people expecting me to take some of the routes y' all are taking, to take the route that not only might not be expected, but is also the one I genuinely want to take.
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So all the stars aligned in that
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way for me, to be honest. Damn.
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Here's the problem that many people have. First and foremost, Jack Harlow. I like you. You're a nice guy. And I think I've listened to a lot of your music, and I think you're a good rapper.
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Solid.
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Solid. And I think the music, the musicality on this project is actually great. Your performance sucks, bro. Whoa. You didn't do the work. So you want to drop. You want to sing. You want to drop an R B soul album, but not be able to sing at all? Like, at all.
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It's. It's.
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And then you didn't do the work with any of the people in this cultural genre, like, where's your work? Where's your work? Like, even.
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Even.
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And I. You know, I take issue with people calling country music a white genre. Right. But even in that space where Beyonce says, you know what? I'mma show up, she collabs with the people in that. Yes.
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World. Yes. Yes. Well, I mean, specific.
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You can even make the argument that though some of the white artists that they refer to when they go to that world, Post Malone still does record
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with the people expected, you can't even do it, period. Full stop. Without showing up in Nashville and sitting with Nashville songwriters and that industry for them to okay you doing it. The problem also, Jack Harlow, is you're putting this on like a costume. Like where as. Because you're white, you just get to choose where you want to pop up. That's triggering for black folks, because black folks don't just get to choose to show up places. We got to do a whole bunch of work and backflips and all this stuff.
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Even Beyonce. Beyonce.
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Beyonce had to fight.
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And she's from.
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They boo to her.
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She's from Houston.
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Yes.
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She's from all of it.
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Yes.
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Did all the work, got all the features. Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton showed up to everything, performed still got shut down, but
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even before that, up performed at the
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award show with the Chicks and got. And got crucified.
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And that's what she got and still
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got all of that vitriol. Beyonce. And you're just like, I love black music. I just want to show up here. Then you play around in people's faces. I don't know if I sent over. Did I send over the comedy skit? Everybody knows that Monica is. Is like this.
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I've never heard that.
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Is that a thing that. Well, it was a comedy skit online that people were, like, throwing around. It's like my Monica. And this dude was saying, you have it. Rahsaan. You don't have it. Let me send it over, see if we can get it up for y'. All. If you have.
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But is that. But that's the gist of it. Is that there's a. There was a sketch that it's based on or people. Someone made a sketch about it.
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No, no, there was a sketch that's already existed.
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Okay.
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And when people heard that his album was going to be called Monica, they was like, the sentiment went out, like, why are you calling your album Monica?
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So my dumb. That my default was when I heard it was an R and B album and it was named Monica. Yeah, I assumed it was about Monica.
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Oh, that was like, you know, the
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R and B artist.
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Well, yeah, I hadn't seen on. I hadn't been on Twitter yet. So the only logical thought I had was you made an R and B album. I don't know. Monica was like the epitome to you of 90s R&B. I don't know. Well, look, I hadn't seen this yet.
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Listen.
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And then I went online, and I think.
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I think for you. Yes. That's. It's not dumb, because you just didn't know it.
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No, I had no idea. That's the thing.
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But Rahsaan, I just posted it again. It's a. It's. Man, I've been seeing this for years.
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For years, years.
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This. It's just this white comedian cracking jokes about growing up around people and being an immigrant.
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But can you ask one question before we play that while he basically puts it in. Why on earth would Jack and the team make a decision to go and to discuss this for the first time in a big way?
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Yeah.
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We're gonna sit with the two white nerdy music critics rather than go to
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a place you played yourself. They weren't thinking and. Or weren't caring. And I think that's why people are mostly. Mostly offended. You weren't caring.
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You didn't think that.
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That you weren't careful. Because I'm gonna tell you something in hip hop, you know, which is. It's black music. If you can bar it up and you make a few mistakes. We've given passes. Eminem wearing a durag, Remember? Everybody was like, why you got a durag on, bro?
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Yeah, it's not the same level, but
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I'm just saying it was irritated people. Yeah, people were.
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At the time, there was no N word scandal.
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Right. He had an N word scam with the ex girlfriend. Yes, yes. And people were like, all right, but you got bars. I cool. And he apologized, and Zino made a
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whole magazine about it. You remember the whole thing?
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The whole thing. Right, But. And so there's been a history in hip hop where passes have been given R and B and soul music. You got to be able to sing, bro. You got to be able to sing. You got to be able to. Or at least have soul. At least have feeling. When I listen to the album, I don't feel. I feel nothing, Jack. And that's a problem.
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Joe Budden said something super interesting. I thought he got kind of pooh poohed by the. On the clip I saw by Parks and the other guys. But I see what he was saying. Joe Budden said it gave him gunna vibes. And I understood what he was saying. And they were saying, oh, no, don't. That's not gunna gunna. But I see what he was saying, that it wasn't singing. It's just like light rap. You know what I'm saying? You took what was supposed to be an R and B aesthetic and did kind of mumble, light mumble rap on it. That's not.
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And once again, I went into it based on how you're looking what people are saying about it, the way the beats drop on it, and I'm like.
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And then the cherry on top was him feeling too comfortable saying, I got blacker.
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No.
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And that's it, people.
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And why didn't. Also, first of all, in my experience with Jackson's the very beginning, I really do think he's a good dude. I always thought that he did have, like, we had real conversations about race many times, where his understanding to me always seemed to be like, a pretty aware dude. When they asked him the question about retreating, not only did he say, I got blacker. That's the easy line to grab onto, but it was more like he thought about it. You could tell he did think about it, like, well, they normally do this, but I'm gonna do that. As opposed to the easy answer is, guys, I never know. This is the music I love. I made him. I made an album with the artists that I wanted to work with and make the music I love. But I guess that wasn't the case.
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Well, no, he was being his honest self. Not. There's no easy answer.
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He was being that day. That was the answer.
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Now, here's the Monica comedy skit that's been going around the Internet for a while.
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It was really weird because I was
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the only white guy there, and everybody
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called me the N word, but I didn't understand what they were saying.
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Right.
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I thought everybody was just misgendering me the whole time. My name is Zach, and everybody there called me Monica. Yo, what's up, Monica? If you're white and you don't get it, you don't have. Have any black friends. If you're white next to a black person who doesn't get it, you can't explain it.
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Did anyone ask him why the album was called Monica?
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I haven't seen that clip. Maybe they did, maybe they didn't.
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I don't know.
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Haven't said.
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Don't you think that. I feel like that would have made it around.
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I haven't seen it. But that. That was the early that jumped out when people heard the. The album title. And I saw it, and I was like, I don't. And I honestly gave him a pass at the time. I was like, nah, I don't think that's what he's doing.
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You gave him a couple that. Me too. So as the weekend went on, you know me. I'm quick to defend against the Twitter outrage. So I'm like, all right, let's see. And then as everything kind of kept, I was like, this is not good. No, this is not what.
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Nope.
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And also it's the year and you know, d' Angelo passed this year and the sounds of it were super voodoo at the beginning.
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Like, they called him d'. Anglo. You saw that one, right? They called him d' Anglo Saxon. I saw d' Angelo sax.
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D' Angelo did crack me.
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I don't understand.
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So, yeah, that's. That's Jack Harlow gate. Now I. For me. And I went through the album multiple times.
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Multiple times.
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Multiple times.
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And watched the World Baseball Classic.
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No, I didn't watch.
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Okay.
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Was just on my algorithm.
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I was checking how much time you had.
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No, no, no. Just I. Well, because I had to talk about it with Jazz. She's a big R and B head, so I wanted to. Maybe I'm bugging. I'm being too harsh. Cuz I am harsh when it comes to R and B. Yeah, I am. I am harsh when it comes to R and B. Like.
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Well, you seem this.
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But you made a good point. Maybe he wasn't trying to do R and B. Maybe he's doing some light rap hybrid soul thing he's doing.
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But the. No, no. The reason I. I said he sound. I. I like Joe's thought that he was making sound sounds like gonna. The music of it is very much. I'm making an R and B album.
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Yes.
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He just didn't have. He's not Robin Thicke or John B. He didn't like lean in and start singing. It was kind of like talking on it.
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But it's also to Ebro's point, he didn't sit down with the people who live this. You know what I mean? Even try to work with them.
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Well, do we know who the.
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I blame Drake. Deep down inside, I blame Drake. I blame Drake.
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By the way, though, Jack Harlow always
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wanted to be in the Drake. He's no.
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They're real friends.
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I know. And that's that. That aesthetic he wanted. But Drake has real songwriters around him and Drake sometimes really leans in on the singing thing and does pretty well. And the songs are so great. The songs are so great that you're like, yo, this is a great song. Like, hold on, we're Coming home.
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No, he's. He has phenomenal Classic R B. No, no, no.
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Classics. Jack Harlow.
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You.
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You didn't do it. You did not land it, bro. You missed it completely. It's.
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I. I hate it for him and
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I'm going to tell you. And by the way, I saw ninth one to tweet if Justin Timberlake would have did an album.
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What was the angle of that?
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I think he was just saying he was just going white for white.
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But, like, what's, what was the point he was trying to make? Like, you wouldn't have this energy for Justin. I didn't know what.
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Yes, I think that's what he's saying.
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But Justin's a singer.
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But that's what my point was. Justin would not have done vocals like that. It would have been real singing vocals. How about this? Justin Bieber. Black folks will be like, nah, that's R and Bieber right there. When he decides he's gonna make an R and B record. I see a lot now that that's a record and he's really singing.
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Well, It's a really good point because his last album was basically all that.
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Yes, yes.
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And the people that he chooses to work with are all that. Like, nothing's in. I don't know everyone who Jack works, so I don't want to disrespect if he worked with great people.
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Well, I, I just want to assert if Jack, if you did lean in with the R B community that really writes this and makes this sound and they let you come out sounding like that they played you, congratulations, you played yourself. I, I. Yo, y' all was talking about interviewing Jack Harlow. I was like, I don't think it'll be. I don't.
B
So this was before I saw it. Although now I disagree with you even more. We. If we could have gotten him now, I'd say definitely.
A
What. What am I gonna say to him? What's this be said?
B
But you're saying right now.
A
But he can watch this.
B
I just thought of you. But by the way, when I hit the group chat again, it was early on a workday Friday. I didn't know what the conversation was. I just saw he dropped an album out of nowhere. Eight songs. Oh, he made an R and B album interesting. I didn't think it seemed like a huge leap from the. His sort of style and knowing what he's like musically. Although I'm shocked no one brought up over the weekend, no one brought up our Brandy, Brandi and Ray J clip.
A
Well, someone did. I saw an algorithm or I saw a post on Ebro's Algo. Someone said, I clearly remember Jack Harlow not being familiar with Brandi and Monica. And also, I guess there was another interview where he wasn't familiar with some other R B.
B
But that wasn't what happened. He was. He was familiar with Brandi. He didn't know Brandi and Ray J were siblings.
A
Oh, is that what happened?
B
That was the huge controversy.
C
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
A
But at any rate, I was. Rahsaan, I'm glad you texted me that. I was just about to go. Look how the album was categorized, and it is categorized as an R B soul album.
B
Yeah.
A
Congratulations. You played yourself. Listen, guys, y' all can keep playing around if you want to, but if you want to be in black spaces and you want to make popular music and you want to use black aesthetic, you're gonna have to do more work than that. I'm telling you, it's. Yeah, well.
B
And you.
A
All this whole just throwing on some rim glasses and a most deaf hat and leaning back and getting some certain beats. It ain't gonna cut it, bro. It's just not. And by the way, there are plenty of white artists that black audiences love because they're doing the work and they know how to actually sing. You mentioned John B. I mean, go back. That's why I called Jack Harlow, Michael McDowell. Because McDowell's is the fake McDonald's and
B
Michael McDowell on time. I didn't know where he was going.
A
Michael McDowell.
B
No. Always, always love.
A
Everybody loves Michael McDonald. Nobody would ever question his soul, ever.
B
And I'm here to tell you, you can be on the right side of everything, be loud and outspoken about it, and still get chewed out every once in a while.
A
This ain't about you. Right.
B
So. No, my point is, if you do nothing, if you do absolutely nothing. Cause I'm telling you, even if you're a good white, you're gonna get slapped back every once in a while because you are using your privilege to choose to be in a space.
A
Yes.
B
So every once in a while, or sometimes regularly, depending on the season, you might get a shut up, white boy. Like, hey, I really want to be here. You can't never say anything important or do it and then. And then take a step like this, and. You know what I mean? It's just. Again, I don't know where his heart was on it, but it did not come off good.
A
Look, I think he is. He loves the music. I think he just sees it like he saw hip hop. It's something I want to do. And unfortunately, R and B and soul music is so coveted by black Americans that you can't just play with it and get love. It's not gonna work like that.
B
You can't. And you're right.
A
Never gonna work.
B
Hip hop gets a different. As much as people love hip hop, it doesn't get the. They're not the same connection to it.
A
No, no, no.
B
In the culture, not at all.
A
But Jack Harlow, regroup, dust yourself off, you're a nice guy and hold this.
B
Matter of fact, congratulations.
A
You play.
B
Matter of fact, you dust yourself off and try again. I don't know if you're aware, it's a very famous R and B song by an artist named Aaliyah. She was very pop.
A
I'm kidding too.
C
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A
Now, we didn't shout these out. Somebody made these. We got these. Funko what?
B
What?
A
Pop your pop yourself is crazy. No, Pop yourself is nuts.
B
It doesn't say pop yourself, does it?
A
It doesn't say Pop yourself on a side.
B
It does Funko pop. It does say pop yourself because it's Funko pop.
C
But.
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I understand. But it clearly says Pop yourself.
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Baskin. Get this single right here on the Pop Yourself.
C
All right, well, shout out to Serene Storm 43. 6.
B
That's who did it.
C
She wanted. Yeah, she wanted us to shout out her YouTube because that's where she watches us.
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Oh, thank you.
B
Yo, this is super. Yo. If mine has. I don't like that I look like Laura's brother in law Juice.
A
Yeah, your beard should have been brown. But.
B
And my glasses and I don't do thick rimmed glasses. But then I have that. But I'm wearing the Commanders. I'm wearing the Commander's shirt. I have a pair of headphones, some shell top Adidas it looks like, and a foam finger I'm guessing for like wrestling fanship.
C
Okay, okay.
B
Pretty cute. That's very nice. What are you guys?
C
Mine has tight, ripped jeans. Some. A nice attempt at some cool sneakers, a paintbrush and an ice cream cone.
A
Yo, the paintbrush and an ice cream cone. Think about it. Art curator. Art curator. Young snack.
B
I love that. I love that.
A
Can you tell I have a microphone, but I don't know what's in my other hand. A briefcase or some sort of duffel bag.
B
Maybe Ebro's beard is what he dreams about. Yep.
A
Oh, that Full gray. Oh, man, I can't wait.
B
Full gray. He is wearing, like, what I guess a baseball hat, but it looks kinda like a farmer's hat. Yo, they got the vest, though.
A
The vest.
B
The white shirt and vest is very Ebro. And it's like, oh, it's a suitcase and a microphone.
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Cause I'm traveling.
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That's what I believe it is.
C
Yes, yes.
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Yo, this is super. See, guys, I think this is worth putting somewhere, I think. Very sweet.
A
We have a big debate going on, family, where they. Where they want to do. Well, Lauren Rosenberg, as they, not me, want to do, like, you know, decorating of the studio. And I'm so over studios being decorated. I don't know what to do with myself.
B
I. And I hear you, bro. Cool. But I think they are. If it's stuff that's like.
A
But like these, you'd have to take them out of the box for them to pick up on camera.
B
Right? People. People know what those are, though. People, like nerds, know what the funko boxes are. So, like, the display of your own funkos is a thing.
A
All right?
B
You know what I'm saying? By the way, while we have gifts, shout out to our guy Greg at WWE today.
A
He just brought through Lemon pepper Stepper. Today.
B
No, today is 316 day shouts to Stone Cold baby Stone Cole. Oh, wait, yo, I gave Ebro the better one. That one's Fire.
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Mine's the Hard body Corona.
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Why'd I give you, bro? That one. The black and white one's the one. So happy 3:16 to all who celebrate Stone Cold Steve Austin.
C
That's Fire.
B
He's the man, bro.
A
Yeah, the Middle Finger Austin.
B
Yeah. By the way, that one's actually pretty hard. The black and white bootleg.
A
Yeah. Super chat. What you got for me? Remember, hit that. Hit that button. And. And anybody watching this later on when it's after the live, hit that hype button, too.
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Here's we have Moreno the man coming through. What's up, guys?
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Hope you Moreno. We need to do. Know what you do. For a living.
B
Sup? Hope you guys had a great weekend. Ebro next week I start my cycling lifestyle. Would love to hear from you, more about your journey.
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Okay.
B
And how your health has been since you started.
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Okay. All right.
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NWK born came through and said shouts from Newark, New Jersey. 27 year old, fought since a kid from my mom driving me to school on Hot every morning to me driving my sister. Now you guys are the voice of my every day. Cel x23 came through and said it's like USA is Cobra Kai and everyone else is Miyagi. Do GG to USA. Hate ending that game on a bad call. Guess what though. Doctor still going to party. And lastly, Grim BK says, I saw that comedian clip. It was cheesy, but whatever. But if Harlow named his album that and it comes from that joke, then he's playing in our faces. Yeah, that would be. I agree. The number one face playing would be if that's the case.
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Wow.
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Kyrie Navarro came through and said. Love you guys. Loyal fat. Happy first birthday to my first baby, Aria Lynn. We both listen every morning. Heading to daycare. Keep it going. And lastly, shouts to Serene Storm who came through. And lagoings56 shout out to all you guys.
A
Yeah, the Funkos. That's the lady who gave us the Funkos, right?
C
Yes. Oldeeve. That's Serene Storm 3 4306.
B
Oh, thank you. Sorry.
A
Listen, Ebro's algo is a great place to be before we get to the rundown. Can you bring up what you got? Algo number three for me, please?
C
Alcohol number three. There's so much going on, y'.
A
All number system ain't really cracking.
B
Like talking point for MAGA is. Well, Obama dropped bombs too. Yeah, he did. And he did it better. Obama was able to use surgical strikes and limited military operations to take out targets and not start a war. How about that? He did it better. In fact, most of the things that the Trumpies like about Trump. Obama did better. We'll go with unemployment. Obama did better. Economy. Obama did better. Deportations. Obama did better. He was able to deport way more people than Donald Trump, and he's able to do it on one tenth of the freaking budget. Yeah, and without sending goon squads into American cities. Obama did it better. So trying to say that Obama did it too, on any subject, just shows the failure of Trump and the failure of his people to recognize that that everything that Trump said, Obama did, Obama did it better.
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Thank you, Keith.
B
They just don't like that a black man did it better than a white man.
A
I mean, that's Keith Bell841. He just popped up on my algorithm. I figured for all our. For all our friends watching, if you need a clip that you want to send and really trigger your MAGA family and friends, that's the one for you today.
C
That'll do it.
B
That's. It's. It's dead on too.
C
Yeah.
A
Let's get to the rundown. Yeah.
B
Ready?
C
Let's go, let's go.
A
Run down time. Laura got the rundown.
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Turn that up. Screens on glow when she pull up headlines and heavy.
A
But we still caught up.
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Light still flashing. We don't slow.
C
All right, the 98th Academy Awards went down, hosted by Conan O', Brien, and yes, Best picture went to one battle after another.
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Wow. O B A, as it's known.
C
Well, it was a big celebration, though, for Sinners. Best original Screenplay went to Ryan Coogler. Oh, that was so fire. Oh, it was so fire. Yes. They went on for best original score and best cinematography, and that went to Autumn Arkhipow, who made history as the first woman to ever win in that category. And during her speech, she had all the women stand up, bro.
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It was so dope. To me, it was perfect because, you know, I was on the fence about. Is Sinners the best picture of the year? It won everywhere to win.
A
Yeah.
B
Original. I mean, Coogler getting director would have been awesome, too. I firmly believe he will get that one day, 100%. But he gets original screenplay, she gets cinematography.
C
Yeah.
B
The one award I absolutely thought was the most deserved of anything was Michael B. Jordan winning for best actor because he. He, to me, to see someone play two roles and they feel so distinctly different, I thought was so incredible. So that was. They won. They won, bro.
A
Yo, listen, I'm just happy they still like us. Like, that's. Actually. We have some elite friends.
B
Yeah. Oh, they're now very elite. They're very, very.
A
The other thing I'm really excited about with this center's thing, and this is obviously things I've learned since Coogler came up and talked to us about it. And watching his, you know, the. The posts about the film.
C
Right.
A
That they actually shot it on in the different types or even learning how to, like, shoot it a certain way. So it was able to get in these IMAX theaters, which they normally don't give to black directors and black film budgets, period. Full stop. Was all of the business that people were really upset about with this film, which is him having some, you know, the terms of the deal. The other thing is he owns his ip. So whatever the. The. The sequel is, whatever the spin offs are, whatever the animation becomes, if there's all of these things he owns all of.
B
Well, not only that, he owns the film. The film comes back to him.
A
Yes.
B
And he will completely own the film, which is like, yeah, there's like two or three people in history who've ever done that.
A
Right.
B
So beyond the film, the history in that deal is stuff we've never seen before.
C
And it was just beautiful to see how much they love each other. Like the cast. Right. You felt the love through the screen. You could see it.
B
Yeah.
C
Like, as each and every one of them won, everyone was celebrating each other. So fire. Like, did you see Ryan run to get her child so he. So her child could see her win? Like, he ran down looking for the baby and was like, here, look at your mom win this. Like, it was such a beautiful moment.
B
No, it was. It was awesome. And as we talked about at the end of last week, I got to rewatch it. I enjoyed it. At the time, I didn't think it was, like, incredible. But now that I've talked about it more and more and more, I want to. I want to go in with a different.
A
I went to the premiere, and we look like we were in awe of it. And I remember being like, I wish I had more closure on the. On the indigenous people that were chasing the vampires. There were things I wanted right then, the vampire thing, I was like, okay, maybe you had to do the vampire thing, because then that got the box office going a little bit more. I wasn't a big fan of the vampire thing. But then the second and third time that I saw it, I think that's where it really started to click. And obviously the. The narrative that is shaping about black culture, black music, and that experience from the bayou.
C
Yeah.
A
Of which so much black American culture comes from. I think for me, you know, that that's Super Hill.
B
No. And like. And as I told you guys, first 45 minutes, I was like, so amped, and then it kind of trailed. But I want to go back and watch it again from the lens that I now know it's about.
C
Yeah.
B
You know what I mean? Because everyone did say about that movie and they always made the point in promoing it. People seeing it two and three times.
A
Yeah.
B
They were, like, very keen on that. There were a couple other ill things at the Oscars. Number one, Sean Penn won best supporting Actor and didn't come. And I loved that. What's his face. Macaulay called Kieran Culkin.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Kieran Culkin presented the award and he's like, Sean Penn couldn't be here or didn't want to be here. I'll accept it on his behalf. Yeah, but I think it's the shade because. Well, I couldn't tell if it's shade or almost giving him props. He clearly. Sean Penn, as far as I know, moves to the beat of his own drum. Yeah, bro, what other film thing were you doing that would keep you from the odds?
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You didn't know what it is.
B
You didn't show? I don't think.
A
That's what I think he didn't want to be there for some political reason.
B
Oh, that's. That's my.
A
So the, The. The other film that won, the voice of Hein Rajab.
C
She didn't know.
B
It didn't win.
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It didn't end up. Oh, it was nominated.
B
Excuse. It was up against. You saw. It was up against. It was up against that sensitive. What was the. It was in so many categories. The Danish movie that it was up against was also up in tons of other categories. Anyway, the.
A
The. The main actor in the voice of Heinrajab, the star of it was. Isn't allowed to come to the United States because he's Palestinian.
C
Cannot come.
A
Cannot come. And so there's a couple of other stories like that that were. Circuit circulating around the Oscars that I think there were some actors that had issues with how the Oscars are like, they're like one foot in one foot outing, you know, speaking out.
B
But isn't that very white America?
A
It's very white America. But I'm saying that might be why somebody like a Sean.
B
I assume Sean Pens was political.
A
He's been soup.
B
We know Sean Penn's been out there, but, like, he goes hard for the stuff. He goes hard for.
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That's right.
B
I will say, though, that we could be completely wrong. Completely wrong.
A
Figure out what it is.
B
The In Memoriam my guy, Billy Crystal shouts to. Billy Crystal did the Rob Reiner tribute. Oh, man, that was amazing. And then, like, all these stars from his biggest movies came out on stage with the picture thing behind him. And then like the trip so many people passed this year. Barbra Streisand came out to do a thing for Robert Redford. I'd forgotten Robert Redford even died this year. And she. Yo. She sung. I don't know the last time Barbra Streisand sung in public. She's 83. She hit the Chorus of the way we were at the end.
C
83. Wow.
B
Robert Duvall died as well. And then I saw some people online were upset that James Van Der Beek got no love in the Immemorium. Eric Dane was not in the immemorial. And there was one other one that people were sort of upset about, but the Immemorium had a lot of people this year.
A
Wow.
C
Did you see.
A
So that I didn't see any of them.
C
K Pop Demon Hunters went to for best original song, for golden and for best Animated feature. So they go up. Did you see that?
B
I saw that. They won.
C
Yeah. So she goes up on stage and does like a beautiful speech and then she wanted to include the rest. Yo, bro. The way they shut them down was so disrespectful. They were just like. They were in the middle of speaking and it's like, oh, no, you can't. She was like, just give me one more.
A
One more.
C
Yo, the disrespectful.
B
Well, the problem is you can. You can get away with going entirely too long if your awards are early when your awards are late. Because they started at 7 last night, which is earlier than I ever remember, and they still got to the main event stuff at 11 o'. Clock. The actress, actor, best picture was like, 11 o'. Clock. Yeah, it was crazy late.
C
Yeah.
B
Conan was pretty funny, though. Took some shots, had some fun. People have their shots at Paramount and cbs.
A
Who's bigger into the Oscars between you two?
C
He's the big award watcher.
B
I just.
C
Last night, you know.
B
You know, the Oscars is watched by 75 million people. I'm not that into it. I'm like, I fast. I fast forwarded till I would see the people I was interested.
A
Oh, got it. Okay.
B
I knew I wanted to see Billy Crystal do the thing for Rob Reiner.
A
Yeah.
B
And his wife, of course. But no, I'm not like that. It's. I'm not.
A
It's a funny Rob Reiner story is crazy. Is there any closure on that story?
B
So, no, The Sun. Oh, no. Yeah, that.
A
That, we know that for sure was the sun.
B
100%.
A
And him and his son were beefing. It was political or.
B
No, no. So the son was a drug addict who'd been up and down and like, my dad was telling me that he had seen some articles, like, people had felt like the son should, like, not be around for a while. He's in and out of rehab at some point. 10 years ago. They made a movie together about his son's addiction. Right.
A
Okay, now, but at this confusion with the Gene Hackman story.
B
Got it, Got it. That one was weirder. This one's more straightforward. Tragically. I just don't know what you say about it. Like, my terrible. That's my brain. Goes to this dark place of, like, is your life even worth it if it ends that bad? If it ends with your child killing you? Like, he had the best life. Rob Runner's life was so ill.
C
I know.
B
I don't know, bro.
C
So sad.
A
Why is it? Why not?
B
I don't know. It's where my brain goes. I'd rather I. I, like, you trade it all to not have it end with you and your wife being murdered by your son. You know, I'm saying, it's just so bad. I just.
C
Yeah, it's horrible.
B
It's just so horrible. I can't, like, shake it when I think about this.
A
In all of our lives. I hate to be this guy. Good or bad. There's a lesson in it. That's all there is to it. That's why. Listen, unfortunately, I. I hate to break it to y', all, we're here for a blip, man. We're here for a blip. A blip in time.
B
Yeah, but if that blip could not end by my throat being slit by family member. But you had such going for that.
A
Yeah, but how much greatness did you have until that moment? So much you didn't know that was coming.
B
And you know. You know, Rob Reiner had an ill relationship with his dad, Carl Reiner. He was, like, so jealous of his dad growing up and was so. It was such a huge thing. But he was close with him and just, like, jealous.
A
Why jealous?
B
Because his dad was such an icon. Like, Carl Reiner was such a gigantic Hollywood icon. And Rob Reiner at the time when he got started, was like a pudgy actor. He was just a pudgy actor on Archie Bunker. He was the boyfriend. He was the boyfriend on Archie Bunker and had never made a movie and was like, just. He got the job because he was Carl Reiner's son and then found his voice and worked his ass off. And there was one line, I heard him say that when he was growing up and struggling with the shadow of his father, someone said, did he ever make you want to change your name? And he was like, yeah. And they were like, to Carl, like, I just wanted to be. Just be my dad, you know? So it's interesting then that whatever he had with his kid, it just was
A
that father, son thing, right? And maybe there's a story in there for us to learn. Maybe we don't know all the facts.
B
Maybe there's something in there besides just raging drug addict.
A
Maybe there's something that pushed his son down that path. I don't know.
B
I. I look at the more obvious lesson, too, of if for everyone who was at the party that night at Conan's house. Conan has this party. The sons there, wilin and had to leave the party. Apparently, he was on new drugs. He had. He had gotten on new meds. And then they went back, and he's in the house with them. I don't know what you do, if you're a friend who sees something like that to, like, maybe pull them aside and, like, he needs to go somewhere right now.
C
Real friend would.
B
But I don't know families.
A
I know some families that have some people in their house, and they're questioning, are they good? Like, should I let my son stay here tonight? He's bipolar.
C
Yeah.
A
Or she's bipolar. It's my son.
C
It's more common than you think, guys.
A
And I'm not sure if I'm safe with my child. And it's hard for a parent to go, yeah, I'm gonna tell my child they can't stay here when they need
B
a place because we're worried about our safety.
A
Because we're worried about our safety.
C
And that's why the. As they get older, like, I've seen scenarios where it's like, maybe a single mother, and she's tiny. The sun is very large and heavy. She can no longer control him, and he's not himself when he has an episode.
B
Right.
C
So that's where it can get really dangerous.
A
No, it's dangerous.
C
Yeah.
B
It's just really sad story. But it was a. It was a beautiful, beautiful tribute, though.
C
Yes, yes, yes. I enjoyed the Oscars overall. I just. All the special moments, like that sinner's music performance.
B
Oh, it was beautiful.
C
I mean, you say you saw it before.
A
I thought I saw them perform something like that, but it wasn't this elaborate.
B
Oh, oh, wait. How about Mr. Copeland coming out of retirement to stun on Timothy Chalamet? Right? That's what everyone said.
A
There's that part. And, oh, by the way, she just had hip surgery.
C
That's right.
A
She retired, had hip surgery, and then is out there doing that. Those are new hips, y'. All. Brand new hips.
B
Yo, that's crazy.
C
She's probably in pain doing it, but she's like, I'm a show out, by the way.
B
I'M a show you Shalom. And May kept catching it too.
A
Oh, he was on it.
B
Oh, did he win anything? No.
C
No.
B
And Conan had.
A
Congratulations.
B
And Conan had a funny ass joke too, about like. He's like, there's a lot of security concerns here about things that could happen at the Oscars this year. Dangers on both sides from the opera and the ballet.
A
That was Shaloma May laughing, by the way.
B
So I heard. So.
A
But, you know, he's a New York kid. He could take the school.
B
I totally agree. I think. I think he'll take this. But I think also the Kylie thing, I think it's a collection of things that are making people side eye him. I just think that he's like, gassed or spoiled or whatever. I think he seems like a really decent. He always seems like a decent fellow when I see him.
A
Yeah.
B
So I took that. You know, his thing. It's kind of a joke gone bad. It wasn't like, you know, naming your album after someone's name that sounds like a racial Slurpee.
A
Monica.
B
It can't be. If it's that, it's the biggest congrats of all time. I can't even. I don't even come back from it. If that's the reason I don't even come back from it.
A
Well, he's never gonna substantiate it. Now he's gonna say it's about a girl.
B
I need. I need pictures. Who is Monica, by the way? Don't tell me you just love friends.
C
I know.
A
You should have named it Phoebe. Well, no, if that's the case, then you damn sure shouldn't have been making It All R B Soul album after our friend's character. Congratulations.
B
I was gonna name it Phoebe, but it didn't feel R B enough, so I went Monica. That's why I came to New York. He was looking for the central perk.
A
I cannot.
C
That is so funny.
A
Y' all ready to get to the gurus?
B
Should.
A
Gurus. Hey, yo, it's time for the gurus. Rosenberg.
B
Laura.
A
You know you are beautiful Queen eo. You're not a guru. Nope. Not a guru.
B
No, you are. You're not leaving now. Once you're in, you're in, bro.
A
I ain't gonna hold y'. All. It's hard, man. It's hard being responsible.
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Nah, you got jumped in. You stuck now for life.
A
Right now you can't.
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All right, let's breathe in. Breathe out the original gurusmail.com theoriginalgurusmail.com where the gurus unite to find Fight for what's right. Come on, Ebro. Lean in
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Zen, Zen, Burn the sage.
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All right, Rosenberg, who's out there? Who needs us?
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Yo, Baskin made a great point. I think all this happened to Jack because he went to the Kentucky Derby with Drake. You saw those weird hats. Things get crazy over there.
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I told y' all it was Drake's fault. Y' all think I'm just Drake hating.
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Stop.
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Drake made people think they could just jump in R and B whenever they want to.
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Yo, and I hit. I hit Jack. When the album came out, I had seen nothing. It was like 9am I'm like, yo, new album sounds good, bro. You want to come up? I didn't know what was going on.
A
Do you like how the album sounds?
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Well, I just literally thrown on. I'm trying to be a decent. You know, I. I thought the sounds of it were cool. I like the vocals I didn't like. I didn't enjoy the vocals I didn't enjoy. I didn't think they were like, God awful. But, like, if you. To your point, if you're gonna mess around with something like this, you can't mess around. No, and I did think. I was like. I just kept thinking about d'. Angelo. I'm like, you know, like the old. You know, the old line. Fat Joe found Pun's rhyme book. I'm like, oh, Jack Harlow thinks he found d' Angelo's rhyme book. You know what I mean?
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I was like, that's not. Do that.
B
See what I'm saying? Like, that was what the sound kind of gave. So I think your point was mostly fair, you know, and I hope that he. Hope that he learns from it. But the sentiment that I heard wasn't great. Anyways, the Original Gurus. Laura, mail.com. the original gurusmail.com. i've been rocking with you since the very beginning. Aloha, original Gurus. Hey, I've been rocking.
A
Checking in from Hawaii.
B
That's right. Been rocking with you guys since the very beginning, back when the corporate restraints were still on.
C
Okay.
B
Now that you guys are operating with total freedom, I'm loving the lack of fluff. It's refreshing. I didn't know we had much back in the day, but.
A
Well, that just shows you most people didn't get our. They didn't hear the show. They only heard.
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Or maybe there was slight fluff. We're not thinking about. It was built into our, like, the Hot 97 Extra radio accoutrement.
A
Well, I guess Ride or die to Curve, that kind of stuff.
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Contest. If you're out of town, you don't care about.
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And we're bringing these contests back. I want to bring back. Laura never loses.
B
No.
A
Or Laura never wins.
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This man loves a radio contest. We're gonna give someone something, and you
C
will get your tickets.
B
If we do it, though, you will get into the show. Absolutely.
C
You will.
A
I spoke to Cash App last week. Did I tell you that?
B
No.
C
No. Okay, we talk about it later.
B
All right, cool.
C
All right.
B
Yay. It's refreshing to hear you delivering the truth without the filter. Because the Hawaii time difference, I'm either catching the live stream when I can't sleep or catching the replay on YouTube in the evenings. That said, with great freedom comes great responsibility. I don't usually do ultimatums, but I've got to keep it 100. This is not a guru, by the way. I just like to say this was infiltrated into the original guru.
A
This should have been a Fart Friday.
B
This is a Fart Friday. If I see Kanye west walking to that studio for an interview, I'm officially tapping out.
A
Oh, man.
C
Okay.
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You guys are better than that circus. And I say that with love. If you give him the platform, just know that in the immortal words of Khalid, you played yourself. Let's keep the guest list prestigious, shall we?
C
Prestigious.
A
I mean, I don't know if we'll be able to keep prestige.
B
Yeah, prestige is tough, but I see what you're saying. How about more with moral integrity? Okay, you know, maybe that's what she's saying.
A
We've been mostly great with that.
B
Generally speaking, I think we've been great with our integrity.
A
No, I mean throughout the lifespan of our collaboration here.
B
All right, you guys want. How about this then? Since that wasn't a real one, we have a follow up from Fart Friday.
A
All right.
C
Oh, okay.
B
First off, it's a real deal. Fart. To know I influenced the now Fart Friday is a cool accomplishment. And not being able to share with my wife because of her booty, it's going all Dizzy Gillespie. That inspired. It's happened. Damn. Anyways, to answer some of the questions, the gas issue isn't some unspeakable mystery. I think her embarrassment initially led me to joke about it to protect her feelings.
A
Got it.
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And in time, my attempts to make her comfortable made it a little too comfortable. As wild as it sounds, five to six times an hour isn't an exaggeration. Even in her sleep, it's popping off most days. Diet is good. Not great for the Most part, she eats pretty clean. When she does eat something out of the ordinary, the gas levels take an uptick. I mean, she doesn't need to go to the hospital after a quesadilla, but the diet's pretty good. Okay, we've tried the Beno Gas X route. No effect. It was like throwing a glass of hot water on a forest fire. Her doctors tried some prescriptions, but because of her long term conditions, it caused her stomach pains. To answer the small question, she always brings the noise, but not always the funk. Glass half full. I guess, honestly, you guys are right. I just need to nut up and have a difficult conversation. Our 20 years, we've been through some ish. So some farts should be easy, right? Wish me luck. P.S. laura, I got tracking on my T shirt about a week ago and it hasn't updated since. Stop farting around with the shipping Q Rimshot. Appreciate you guys.
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I keep telling you, you have to email us ELR merch at gmail.
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Send the order number. Yeah, so we can track it.
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Everyone should be pretty good.
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So send your. So send your emails to the original gurusmail.com. no questions today. Just a follow up from Fart Friday.
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I was moving around. People were very amused, concern, opinionated about that.
A
Well, I appreciate the fart follow up, you know, I mean, that's good. I do hear him say, though, diet is good, not great.
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Yeah, like, what if it could be great? Outstanding.
C
Because that could control the funk.
A
Well, he said the funk. She brings the noise. Mostly.
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Not mostly the noise.
C
Not the phone noise is also.
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Yeah, but that's what I mean. Let's get to great. If she could really love me.
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Gas.
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If you really love me. I mean, what were y' all vows? Go through your vows again.
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Well, but in sickness and in health, in farts and in silence.
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There you go. But you know, she's got to do some work too. You still gotta try these relationships.
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Hide a couple of those, you know what I mean?
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What if there's just one food? You don't know. What if there's just one food that's like really doing it and it's in her diet all the time.
A
That's right.
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Could be like a. Could even be a vegetable. Could be something you think you're being healthy with. Yeah, like, you know, I know y'
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all not out here eating cauliflower and broccoli.
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Brussels sprouts. You better not.
C
Please, Beans. I mean, you just gotta be careful.
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Yeah, beans. Beans, the magical fruit.
C
Oh, man. I mean, hopefully, but you know, also
B
Note to self, we can talk about it later this week. Maybe for family matters. Remind me to not randomly try drinking a weed soda before my parents come over.
C
Such a dork. Why would you do that?
A
Gurus are over.
C
Why would you do that?
A
You played yourself.
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I went to the weed store. We have a in what is our neighborhood for two more weeks.
C
Okay.
B
One upside is we do have a nice little weed store. I popped in. Yo, those weed stores are dope by the way. They always look so fancy and cool. Anyways, behind the counter they have these drinks. And I have a friend at one of my other jobs who swears by the weed drinks he stopped drinking alcohol together. And he's like, well, when I want to have like a little rock, get a vibe, I sip these. And if you sip it, you just sip it. You're not gonna feel anything crazy. It's like having a drink.
C
Okay.
B
And my parents were coming over. They get caught to town. They were coming over a couple hours later. I popped a drink.
C
Uh huh. Did you sip it?
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No.
B
No I didn't.
A
You drank the whole thing?
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I drank it in like five, six minutes.
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Congratulations.
C
Five, six minutes.
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Peter felt nothing. Walked around, made some phone calls, doing my thing, handling the baby.
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45 minutes later, my parents walk in.
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I was like, oh my God, I did it again. I was on some Britney. Oops, I did it again.
A
You started dancing in a circle with knives and a miniskirt.
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I know.
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This is why I pass on grass. I never wanna feel paranoid. So I basically. That was the last time I've done anything related to weed in months and months, if not over a year. And I was like, I'm here again. I'm here. You know how paranoid you are. You start noticing everything everyone's saying, like every.
A
I thought you're already paranoid and you're already hyper concerned about what everybody's saying. You don't combo.
B
Have you. Have you ever got. When was the last time you bro, you got like stupidly. Whoops. I don't want to be this way hot. Has it happened in years?
A
I can't remember really?
B
Not even in the Edible?
A
Like, like, I mean, yeah, like in the edible. I have, but I don't know when. It's been a long time.
B
You too, Laura?
A
Same.
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I mean, I just always go back to when me and you got to stone at that club one time and we were freaking out.
B
Oh my God, the wor. I forgot you were with me for one of the worst of all time. Yeah, that's top five. That's Top three.
A
When I took y' all to. Where were we at that? That was the Amber Rose event over in.
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It was a club in Newark.
A
No, it wasn't Newark. It was Elizabeth.
B
It was Elizabeth.
C
Elizabeth. And stupid ass Juanito gave us a weed brownie. And I remember asking him like, it
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was a str N, bro. That's not what happened, bro. That's not what happened. Not what happened what? Juanito had some edibles. And I told all of y', all, yo, be easy, only eat a little bit.
C
I don't remember that.
B
I.
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Because I ate it also and was chilling and I was like, how much did y' all eat?
B
I don't know. Meanwhile, fat ass Rosenberg and Laura snacks were like, yum, yum.
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He gave us a big chunk. We're like, tastes good.
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Which, by the way, that's happened to me multiple. I have like a. I have like a Mount Rushmore of worst weed experiences. This one this weekend was not on it at all. It was just. I'm at home with my family.
A
It wasn't want to be that high.
B
And my problem is I start noticing things about the people I'm around. And the things I'm noticing aren't inaccurate. They're just super hyper. I was with a friend once years ago, and I do not take bong hits. This is like 10 years ago. I'm out. I took bong rips with this guy. I'm not a bong rip kind of dude, bro. Not my thing. I don't even realize at the time what a true bong hit will do. Ebro. Don't let Ebro's coolness. I know he's. He is a. You had to be a bong rip guy in California back in the day,
A
I had a six foot stage deal bong that we would put in the freezer and get it cold. No, listen, it was great.
C
I knew how to make emergency bongs with an apple.
B
With an apple.
A
But that's low key. Can apple.
B
That's really.
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I could take a tissue paper roll. I'll do whatever.
C
Come on.
B
But that's more like a bowl in the end than a.
A
Give me a piece of aluminum foil and a tissue wrapper.
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This was a real yo. I sat there afterwards and I looked at my friend who I am still friends with to this day, and in that moment, I was like, I hate you. Oh, I don't want to be near you. Everything you're saying, there's something wrong with you. You're bad. You're the worst. Nothing happened. There was Nothing. My. I. I get hallucinating. You get paranoid to the point of, like. Anyways, so be careful with that weed drink, y', all, because apparently if you drink it fast, it's just like an edible.
C
Oh, man.
A
And consuming thc, full stop, in doses that you're not comfortable with is gonna put you in a place that you're not comfortable with. How about that?
C
It was a sativa. Was it some kind of hyper.
A
Here's the rule of thumb. The rule of thumb is. There's literally the rule of thumb. You take a piece, the top tip of your thumb, you eat it, and you wait for 40, 20 to 45 minutes.
B
How much should I have sipped before I even.
A
One sip.
B
One sip.
A
You waited because. I don't. I don't know. I'd have to see the can to see how much it was.
B
10 milligrams.
A
That's. That's. Yeah. So you probably could have did more than one sip, but a few sips and waited. Well, no. A few sips would have done you well. Put the can away.
B
Come for you.
A
You don't consume.
B
Right.
A
Thc.
C
Yeah.
B
You shouldn't.
A
So your reception, your receptors are just. You could feel everything.
B
How do you guys feel that? How do you guys feel that you're in business with someone who, let's just be honest, is not bright? Like, this is a decision you've made with your life.
A
I've been thinking about this. We can do this on Patreon.
B
How dumb I am.
A
Well, you're not. It's not that you're dumb. It's. It's. You're ignorant to a lot of things.
C
But this bothers me because you've been.
B
No, I know.
A
So. But then the one thing you're ignorant to is yourself. And that's what bothers me the most.
B
How can you not be aware?
A
Because just. And this is going to be on this week's Patreon. Just last week, you launched a show called. What's it. What's it called?
B
Validate Me.
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Validate me. This weekend, you jump on IG begging for validation. Begging for validation from motherfuckers who. Don't, excuse my language. From people who just troll. Like, who are these people?
C
That video pissed me off.
A
Nori. You care what Nori thinks?
B
I love Nori.
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Don't care what Nori thinks. He's gonna say whatever he needs to say to get in a room.
B
I don't feel.
C
I just can't believe I was like. I looked at your videos. Like, why was this necessary?
B
Well, this is a good Patreon subject.
C
I was so annoyed by you.
B
I'm sorry. Yeah, no, listen, God's still working on me.
A
Nori shows up wherever to be happy.
B
I know.
A
To bring joy. He walked into a room with people from the Bronx. He was like, this is the most. You're not from New York, Rosenberg.
B
I know.
A
You didn't even do enough to, like, act like you wanted to be from New York. You're gonna keep your team, the commanders.
B
Yeah, I don't wear Yankees.
A
And then be mad that a city full of people who only validate themselves based on the type of clothes they wear and the teams they support are gonna tell you where you're from.
B
The part that was misconstrued. We could save it for Patreon. Is. I wasn't trying to say that I want to be a New Yorker or that I think I'm from New York.
A
But you were trying to get validated.
B
No, you're right. That part. You're correct.
A
That's all I'm talking about.
B
Well, I mean, you started getting to specifics, which makes me want to argue, but you're right. You're right.
A
I'm like, why do you even care?
C
I will save it for Patreon. I got a couple things to tell you.
B
Why. Why are you yelling at me?
A
Because it's annoying. You're annoying. That's what I mean. When I decided to do business with somebody who's this annoying.
C
I love you.
B
But I was.
C
I was annoyed. I was gonna text you, yo, let's
A
have Nori on the program. I bet you when he comes in, he says something nice about our program, too.
B
I know he will. It wasn't about. I wasn't mad at Nori. I was just like, why does someone always. Why can't they compliment someone without saying a. Oh. And finally, it's not because.
A
Because that's their differentiator. Their competitor is not us.
C
And that's okay.
A
They're not competing against us.
B
Right.
A
They're competing against a show that has envy and a bunch of people not from New York.
C
Yeah. And that's okay. You know what I told them, bro?
A
For people who ain't from New York, we had a great run. I told them, made a bunch of money, put a bunch of people on. Made a bunch of people more money. Had the biggest concerts they've ever seen or will see.
B
We did our thing and talked our ish. That's the thing to me, that I'm like, why are you. It's inherently New York. To do what we did. You don't have to be a New Yorker to represent New York property.
A
Still care.
B
What were you going to say, Laura?
C
I was going to say. I told them. I said, why don't you just be quiet and let our New York fans do the defending and arguing. Just let them handle it. Because you know what? They do a great job.
B
Sorry.
C
The El army is fire on fire and they step in when they need to, you know.
B
Guys, listen, I blew it. I'll see you guys on Patreon, though. I'm looking forward to this therapy sesh.
C
Bye.
A
Listen.
B
Really got yelled at them.
A
Yeah. Cause you're playing yourself, man. You make. And you're making us look bad.
B
Really?
A
Yeah.
B
No, I don't think so. Yeah, man.
A
Stop crying out here, bro. There we go. Yo, thanks for these.
B
These are cute.
A
Really cute. Go pop yourself.
B
That's crazy.
A
It says it right here. And I think that means that anybody could pop themselves.
B
I think that's correct. You can make your own.
A
Yeah, and. And by the way, if you're mature enough, anybody could pop themselves. You want to do your dance? No. Oh.
B
Anyway, happy 316 day, guys. We'll see you. We'll see you tomorrow.
A
Hey, yo, and listen, make sure you like and subscribe and do all the things that you do in the algorithm to make things go algorithmic, you know?
B
I mean, right? Tell a friend, too.
A
Just don't call it a podcast.
The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show – Episode 56 Jack Harlow’s R&B Music + OSCAR Night Reactions (3/16/26)
In this lively episode, Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg dive deep into two of the week’s biggest cultural moments: Jack Harlow’s widely-discussed R&B album and reactions to the 98th Academy Awards (Oscars). The hosts bring their characteristic blend of incisive commentary, playful banter, and sharp humor to conversations about music, race, cultural appropriation, and the shifting landscape of pop culture.
"The Polo vintage has now hit like a new peak… they have so many different styles. It’s the ultimate clothing to collect." – Rosenberg [02:23]
"That’s the number one Mike Tyson street story of all time." – Rosenberg [07:05]
"Every other team is dancing, celebrating, leaning into culture—Americans? Talking about killing in war." [09:22]
“Rapper Jack Harlow decided he wanted to, and this is his quote, ‘get blacker’ and drop a soul R&B album.” – Ebro [13:05]
“Your performance sucks, bro. You didn’t do the work... You want to drop an R&B soul album but not be able to sing? At all?” [14:57] - The hosts argue Harlow failed to collaborate with established R&B and soul artists, drawing unfavorable comparisons to artists like Post Malone, Beyoncé, Justin Timberlake, and John B., all of whom built relationships within new genres before crossing over.
"Why on earth would Jack and the team make a decision to discuss this for the first time in a big way...with the two white nerdy music critics?" – Rosenberg [18:13]
"The history in that deal is stuff we've never seen before." – Rosenberg on Coogler’s IP win [38:44]
"Did you see Ryan run to get her child so he—so her child could see her win? Such a beautiful moment." – Laura [39:12]
Candid, playful, and unsparing, the episode exemplifies the show’s trademark banter, humor, and willingness to take tough stances—especially regarding issues of race, privilege, and authenticity in music. The Oscar discussion brings pride and joy, balancing out more critical and contentious segments. Listeners who missed the episode will leave well-informed on both the news and the unfiltered opinions that drive conversation in Black pop culture.
For more: Find The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show on YouTube, X: @theelrshow, and TikTok: @ebrolaurarosenberg.