57.) Happy Birthday Ebro! + Jack Vs. Mac (3/17/26)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show | Episode 57: “Happy Birthday Ebro! + Jack Vs. Mac”

Date: March 17, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

In this lively and opinionated episode, Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg celebrate Ebro’s birthday while delving into a wide range of cultural and hip-hop topics. They dissect public perceptions of "authentic" New York media, offer commentary on internet beefs, discuss white rappers in hip-hop, and navigate hot news items—from social media rumors about Netanyahu, U.S. asylum policies, Doja Cat’s openness about mental health, and more. A surprise appearance by N.O.R.E. (Nori) stirs debate over what makes a "New York" radio show, and the crew has a playful but real discussion on authenticity, nostalgia, and criticism in both music and media.

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Key Topics & Discussions

1. Celebrating Ebro's Birthday

• [04:00–13:00]
  • Laura and Rosenberg wish Ebro a happy birthday, ribbing him for being grumpy and unenthusiastic about celebrations.
  • Ebro describes a quiet family dinner at Buddakan:

    “I actually, for my birthday, I often end up thinking, I have so many great days throughout the year. … I do fun stuff for work.” — Ebro [12:18]

  • The team also discusses how hard it can be to remember birthdays and poke fun at Michael K.’s commitment to remembering people’s special days.

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2. YouTube, Subscriptions, and Platform Habits

• [02:58–03:55]
  • The group notes how many listeners tune in regularly but don’t hit the subscribe button.
  • Laura observes, “A large chunk of our audience is new to this, they just love us…” [03:19]
  • The hosts admit they hardly subscribe to YouTube channels themselves, revealing generational differences in media habits.

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3. Social Media Drama & Media Critique

a. N.O.R.E., Radio Authenticity, and a “NY” Sound

• [00:33–02:58], [57:36–62:20]
  • The hosts recount a debate with N.O.R.E. about whether his recent compliment was a subtle insult to their old Hot 97 show, fueling Rosenberg’s suspicion.
  • Rosenberg:

    “It seems like … they’re showing love to Mel and them doing a show … why does it have to sound like a stab at replace?” [59:56]

  • Ebro:

    “It’s just made up. It’s all made up. ... We’re just doing a show about where we live.” [62:18, 62:50]

  • A full hour-long conversation with N.O.R.E. is teased for Patreon subscribers.

b. DJ Akademiks, Internet Trolling, and Perception

• [05:53–08:34]
  • Rosenberg calls out DJ Akademiks for spreading misinformation about their show’s alleged firing and poor ratings.
  • Ebro:

    “It’s algorithm hustle. ... They have to fill the show and we’re a good target, right?” [07:25]

  • The group discusses trolling culture and the importance of evidence versus hearsay.

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4. White Rappers, Contribution, and Authenticity: Jack Harlow Vs. Mac Miller

• [15:43–18:44]
  • Rosenberg outlines the key differences in perception and credibility between Jack Harlow and Mac Miller.

    “I think Mac Miller is the greatest white boy rapper of all time…all he did was contribute, help put on, do the work.” — Rosenberg [17:02]

  • Ebro notes Mac’s collaborative spirit and the way he cultivated creative spaces for artists across genres.
  • Discussion framed by recent reactions to Harlow’s genre-crossing:

    “People not seeing the work and not hearing the work in the recording.” — Ebro [16:46]

  • The hosts agree Mac Miller’s artistic journey was authentic, while Harlow may only appear less rooted because the "work" isn’t yet visible to the community.

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5. Studio Memorabilia & Set Design

• [13:10–14:59], [19:03–21:16]
  • Playful banter about what should be in the studio: toys, collectibles, and memorabilia (Tribe Called Quest box, Mac Miller bobblehead, Duck Down paperweight).
  • Concern over whether the set will become "a tacky college dorm" if they overdo it.
  • Audience is invited to “vote” for what they’d like to see in the background.

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6. Algorithmic News, Media Psyops & Conspiracies

a. White South African Asylum Seekers Returning Home

• [26:18–28:29]
  • The crew discusses news reports that white South Africans, who arrived as refugees in the U.S. under the Trump administration, are now returning due to U.S. economic hardship.
  • Rosenberg:

    “What does it say about the persecution these people were up against in South Africa that they would choose to return because the rent is too expensive?”

  • Ebro highlights the hypocrisy of immigration policy shaped by racial bias.

b. Netanyahu Death Rumors & AI Manipulation

• [28:29–39:09]
  • They break down the viral internet rumors and conspiracy theories that Israeli PM Netanyahu is dead and the government is releasing AI-generated videos to prove otherwise.
  • Rosenberg:

    “The main point is this: … there are a lot of people who believe he’s dead because … he hasn’t really been seen in a true public event.” [29:14]

  • Questions about what’s real in the age of deepfakes, political manipulation, and strategic misinformation.

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7. Wider Middle East Commentary: War, Manipulation, and U.S. Foreign Policy

• [39:10–47:09]
  • Ebro delivers a broad indictment of U.S. priorities abroad:

    “It is not a religious war. You are being manipulated. Anybody that thinks this is a religious war, you’re being manipulated.” [39:47]

  • The hosts reflect on the real motivations—resource and border expansion, not protection or religious salvation.
  • Rosenberg, reflecting on the cycle of war:

    “We don’t ever win… There is no win. They’re not trying to win. And that’s where you’ve been lied to.” [47:46, 47:58]

  • Discussions on the futility of war and misinformation campaigns.

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8. Mental Health and Public Disclosure

Doja Cat’s BPD Announcement

• [51:01–55:03]
  • The hosts play a clip of Doja Cat discussing her Borderline Personality Disorder diagnosis and therapy journey.
  • Ebro:

    “Every time I’ve heard of borderline personality disorder, I didn’t know that that was like a clinical diagnosis. … You either have it or you don’t.”

  • Open discussion on mental health, stigma, and attempts to clarify what “borderline” truly means.
  • Laura:

    “She shares a lot, but we still don’t know what she goes through. … I am proud of her for coming out and just embracing it.” [56:28]

  • Rosenberg notes Doja Cat’s misunderstood public image and extends empathy to her struggles.

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9. Community Feedback and Closing Moments

• [64:31–67:54]
  • The hosts read superchats and birthday wishes for Ebro, riffing on the informality of “HBD” (“If you ever text me the phrase HBD, you might as well write SMD…” — Rosenberg [64:53])
  • Ebro models his new Pisces scarf, and the crew wraps up with lighthearted banter.

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Notable Quotes & Moments

• On authenticity in radio:
  “[Nori] walked into the room up there with Mero and them… ‘You’re from the Bronx. None of us are from New York.’” — Ebro [58:00]

• On the futility of war and U.S. self-congratulation:
  “We don’t ever win… There is no win. They’re not trying to win. And that’s where you’ve been lied to.” — Ebro [47:46, 47:58]

• On Jack Harlow vs. Mac Miller:
  “Mac Miller … created an atmosphere for other musicians and creatives to come together and create… He did that work literally in that space for a decade.” — Ebro [16:46]

• On tedium and adulthood:
  “I just want everybody to know, some of these things, they’re things. And then some things are just called being annoyed by being a grown up and not being able to deal with it.” — Ebro [54:56]

• Playful closure:
  “Yo, happy birthday, bro. Have a great day.” — Rosenberg [68:14]
  “Just don't call it a podcast.” — Ebro [69:01]

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Useful Timestamps

• Ebro’s Birthday Chat: [04:00–13:00]
• N.O.R.E. & “What Makes NY Radio” Debate: [00:33–02:58], [57:36–62:20]
• Jack Harlow vs. Mac Miller: [15:43–18:44]
• Netanyahu AI Video Rumors: [28:29–39:09]
• On War, Manipulation, and Loss: [39:10–47:09]
• Doja Cat’s Mental Health Discussion: [51:01–55:03]
• Superchats & Birthday Wrap-up: [64:31–68:14]

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Tone & Vibe

The episode is lively, unapologetically candid, and full of good-natured teasing—balancing cultural critique, hip-hop analysis, and social commentary with laughter and self-awareness. The hosts’ chemistry shines through their willingness to challenge each other and their audience, making for an engaging and sometimes provocative listen.

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For more: Find full conversations and bonus content on their Patreon and YouTube channels.

Transcript

[Ebro]

Just don't call it a podcast. The Ebro Laura Rosenberg show.

[Rosenberg]

Ebro. What? Push the button, bro.

[Ebro]

I was waiting for the. Okay. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Okay, listen, I'm a bit disheveled this morning, boys and girls, because I was rushing through traffic, so I didn't get to sit down in time to get my thoughts together.

[Laura]

All right?

[Ebro]

So I don't even know what I give a damn about. I know. Yo, listen, Nori popped up on us yesterday after we was talking trash.

[Laura]

Yeah, that did happen.

[Ebro]

Well, I was mostly talking trash. Cause damn it, Nori pops up. You know he's gonna step in any room, make everybody happy. And Rosenberg had his back hair was standing up about Nori going on.

[Rosenberg]

I think neck hair is usually what people.

[Ebro]

Well, but you have back hair, so

[Rosenberg]

that's why I think, still, I'd prefer the traditional.

[Ebro]

But you're also a dog lover, so you know what I'm saying. Back here stands up when they get into a situation.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. No, I didn't. I didn't. I didn't love what Nori had to say. And so you can look forward to a conversation of me expressing it. Ebro telling me, stop. It's not all about you. And then doing this plausible deniability game where there's no chance that people were saying anything that was actually an insult. That was definitely an insult.

[Ebro]

Wait, Nori was insulting?

[Rosenberg]

No, it was insulting. Insulting.

[Ebro]

It didn't. Well, but what Nori was saying was purposefully directed at you, is what you're saying.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, I'm saying it was a. Generally directed at all of us.

[Ebro]

I just think that's where we just. That's where I disagree.

[Rosenberg]

I know.

[Ebro]

I don't think Nori was thinking about us at all, which is. Could be offensive.

[Rosenberg]

I think no matter how you cut it, it's. It's, you know, it's not great.

[Ebro]

Well, I'll tell you what's even worse is the fact that we still give a damn.

[Rosenberg]

No, me. The fact that I still give a damn.

[Ebro]

Well, I'm. I'm allowing it to. I'm still playing, doing this dance with you. I could just. I could just sit here and stare at you with a blank stare and get you to stop talking. But I keep doing a dance.

[Rosenberg]

Well, you don't have to do the dance if you don't want to. But I, I. No, I think I. This is what Ebro does. In my opinion. Or about everything. Every time anyone says anything that's nasty, I take it too far. He goes the other way. No, they didn't. They meant what?

[Ebro]

No.

[Rosenberg]

And I'm like, you don't.

[Ebro]

I just don't think it's all about you. I think that they're in a competitive landscape over there at the old show where they have to create a differentiation. Like that's. They need something. What is there something? They have to make a something.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, you mean from the standpoint of why would they, like, take the quote and focus on. Yeah, well, either way, it's all in the Nori conversation. We're going to give you some pieces of the Nori conversation and then our patrons are going to get the entire full long, over an hour conversation with Nori, which covered a whole lot more besides that. But, like, a lot of bad bunny reggaeton talk, old Ebro Nori stories. Some good stuff in there.

[Ebro]

There it is. Patreon dropping Wednesday. Please subscribe too. And while you're watching this today, go ahead and hit the like button and. And the subscribe button, if you haven't done that already. I am taking it back that people tune in and watch us and don't hit subscribe. Like, if you're here every day.

[Laura]

I think some people, we have a large chunk of our audience that are new to this.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Laura]

They just love us. They're like, we'll follow to you YouTube. But you know how many people ask me, how do I do this? Like, what do I click? What do I do?

[Rosenberg]

Well, how many things are you guys subscribed to on YouTube?

[Ebro]

Well, I don't watch YouTube a lot. You don't watch. It is.

[Rosenberg]

You don't watch YouTube, though.

[Ebro]

No, I'm not a big YouTube watcher.

[Laura]

I honestly, like, I popped in and I looked at my subscriptions and they're all like, old. It's like the cipher sounds effect like,

[Rosenberg]

that's 15 years old.

[Laura]

That's what I'm saying. That's how long, maybe more it's been since I was like, subscribing things.

[Ebro]

I never even just subscribed to Hot 97's old channel.

[Laura]

Yeah. I just look at things I don't necessarily.

[Rosenberg]

Well, so there you go. That's. I guess that's how people can end

[Ebro]

up in this situation. That is the answer.

[Laura]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

Laura, what are you excited about today? What are you covering in the rundown?

[Laura]

Well, I'm excited that it's your birthday today. Happy birthday.

[Rosenberg]

Wait, wait. Happy birthday, Ebro.

[Laura]

Such a grump. And the chat is going crazy. Everyone's wishing you a happy.

[Ebro]

I didn't know it's my birthday. Just because you just said it or something else happened.

[Laura]

Streets is talking.

[Ebro]

The streets?

[Rosenberg]

No, bro.

[Ebro]

Yo, you wanna hear something crazy? You know who hit me this morning? Michael K. Why does Michael K know it's my birthday? So I was like, yo, wow.

[Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Ebro]

How'd you know it was my birthday? He was like, listen, I take birthdays serious. And I remember people's birthdays who I like. And I was like, now the pressure's on. I don't know your birthday. I'm gonna run my Googles right now,

[Rosenberg]

but I guarantee you February sometime.

[Ebro]

See, you don't remember either. You worked with him for years. It's February 2nd, groundhog.

[Rosenberg]

February 2nd. Yeah. Because Don's also February.

[Ebro]

Oh, God.

[Rosenberg]

A couple weeks later. Yeah, I know you're around St. Patrick's Day.

[Ebro]

Literally on the day, March 17th. I'm the worst at remembering people's birthdays.

[Laura]

I am, too. I'm really bad.

[Ebro]

Shiny culture was great.

[Rosenberg]

We had Shawnee birthday culture.

[Ebro]

Best to ever do it.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, there's never. You never seen a birthday person.

[Ebro]

But Michael K. Said birthdays are very important to him. Is he lying to me?

[Rosenberg]

No, he is very big. I think on sending the birthday text.

[Laura]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

I think he's good at that.

[Ebro]

You think he puts it in zycal. People he cares about. Keep it real.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know. I don't.

[Ebro]

You think it's just off the dome neither. It's a lot of dome up there, so I would.

[Rosenberg]

Hey, yo, I don't know. I can't imagine it's the iCal. I don't think he has that kind of tech popping.

[Ebro]

All right, so he's got to be remembering.

[Rosenberg]

But no, there's no way he remembered your birthday. Off top. Something else happened. He went on Twitter, saw something nobody was.

[Ebro]

I was on Twitter this morning. I checked in to see. See why I pissed off two days ago because I, you know, you guys know, I pop in Twitter and I'll just pick something to piss people off, throw a grenade and bounce.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, right.

[Ebro]

Watch. And then come back two days later watching people argue about something I'm not paying attention to anymore.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Ebro]

My new level of troll.

[Rosenberg]

I respect it. Because yesterday. Yesterday, the birthday boy, the king of why do you care? Did decide to respond to something related to academics. You did. I mean, you don't care.

[Ebro]

Yesterday, right? No, it was just. That was yesterday. Yeah, that was in the morning.

[Rosenberg]

I didn't know. You didn't say anything. I just saw it later.

[Ebro]

What happened?

[Rosenberg]

No, I just saw people commenting on it and I just. The thing I got irritated about, you know, me, was just that the narrative, two things. I didn't see what you said or what he was referring to, but there was a conversation about Ebro blames firing on Drake. I was like, I don't need to hear what that is to know that's not true. I don't.

[Laura]

That's so ridiculous.

[Rosenberg]

I don't have to watch that to know that's not true. And then academics gives the real reason on the firing, which is that our ratings were pure trash. And then that just gets me angry. The outright line.

[Ebro]

But that's not true either.

[Rosenberg]

I know. The outright just being like, I'm just gonna just make something up and say it and people believe someone.

[Ebro]

But I wonder why he picked. Yeah, Oh, I know why. Because I saw something where he was saying that he doesn't believe something about something. Push alike or something. I. I forgot it was about label evidence. It was about I need evidence. And I was like, this guy's talking about evidence. And then he went on to just make up lies that he doesn't have evidence to support.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, that's a great point. He needs evidence. But literally he just randomly will say, nah, they had terrible ratings.

[Ebro]

But that's why I was like, yo,

[Rosenberg]

this guy needs evidence. That's. That's a great call. So, yeah, then he used that. But he. He'd be going off for a while saying different things, and we didn't give it much air. So I appreciated you.

[Ebro]

Well, look, I gotta. I have to know or believe that whatever. A lot of the. Whether it's 50 cent trolling other rappers, academics trolling other media people, whatever it is, is to get that. It's algorithm hustle. It's to get the algorithm well, you

[Rosenberg]

also gotta kill time.

[Ebro]

You have to know they're promoting.

[Rosenberg]

And the guys who stream every day got a fill. It's a lot of show to fill.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

To not talk about, like other stuff like that. I kind of get it, you know, and we're a good target, right?

[Ebro]

Are we?

[Rosenberg]

Well, for act, I think we were all like. I think we. I really feel like it's the movie that it's like the Joker. Then there's a lot of the Joker in there. I think ACT always wanted to be accepted in the radio world.

[Ebro]

And maybe he'll come on your new podcast.

[Rosenberg]

Validate Me, by the way, would be a great conversation. And that was well done. And rather than us accept him, we were very harshly critical of him. And I think it led to, you know, What I'm saying to, like, a real. A personal offense. So then it's all like, you're losers. No one wants to be a part of that anyway. And it's like. But he grew up a Jersey kid dj, like, nah, you did kind of want to be a part of it. And it didn't go well.

[Ebro]

No, it's going well now.

[Rosenberg]

Going great. But now you got to trash the thing that didn't accept you. Well.

[Ebro]

And he also just doesn't have a social life. You know what I mean? Can't really go outside like that. I think that's sad when I see that. Like. Like, he's just not. It's sad. Like, it's sad that you're, like, seen as, like, a alcoholic, degenerate loser who can't go out. Like, that hurts my feelings for you.

[Rosenberg]

What?

[Ebro]

What? No. Isn't that how people see him?

[Laura]

All right.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, no.

[Laura]

What else is happening, guys?

[Rosenberg]

Hey, it's Ebro's birthday, man. This is a good start, bro.

[Ebro]

Wait, no, that's. What?

[Rosenberg]

No, they're not going. The scared to go outside thing stays. Yes, that is a definite no.

[Ebro]

But people have said he's crashing out. He's drunk again. Like, there's a lot of things I've

[Rosenberg]

seen a lot of crash.

[Ebro]

Why are you guys acting like no

[Rosenberg]

means it was the straight no, it's the.

[Laura]

I'm not. I just don't want to talk about this.

[Ebro]

That's fair. But I honestly was being serious.

[Rosenberg]

Like, I just knew there was probably a single on Ebro as he was saying it. And he was being so deadpan serious, as if someone wouldn't be offended what you just said. But I can't tell whether you're serious or not. Cuz remember the Drake thing? He's like, no, I don't know why Drake doesn't like me. All I simply said was he's a cancer. Like, sometimes it's your straight.

[Ebro]

It's less him and more the brand.

[Rosenberg]

Right, Right. In that case, it's the brand.

[Ebro]

And that's what I meant when I said it. I mean, obviously it ballooned into other things, but that's what I meant.

[Rosenberg]

But. But there are a lot of people who I think are in that space of they're really psyched that they stream so well, but as a result, they can't really go outside like that.

[Ebro]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

They say a lot of things inside, and then going outside gets complicated. You know what I mean? So, yeah, streamers walk around with security now every yo. I. Isn't that Crazy. You have so many people walk around with security. It's crazy.

[Ebro]

I mean, listen, they. They go around in situations where you know or say things or they're concerned they're gonna get robbed. I mean, there's a lot of things to be concerned about.

[Laura]

I don't. I think they're concerned they're gonna get slapped.

[Ebro]

That's true, too, but.

[Rosenberg]

Well, a famous rap group that represents New York hip hop, but neither members from New York once made a song about that.

[Ebro]

Which rappers group is this? Oh, Gangstar. Yeah. Suckers need bodyguards. I knew you'd get it.

[Rosenberg]

You're a hip hop savage.

[Ebro]

Yeah. Cause Premier's Premier.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, Premier is a true Houstonian. And Guru's father was a minister in Boston. Legitimately the most New York rap group of all time.

[Ebro]

Neither member, however.

[Rosenberg]

New York.

[Ebro]

No, no, no. But. But.

[Rosenberg]

Moved to Brooklyn.

[Ebro]

They got their check mark from New Yorkers.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, for sure.

[Ebro]

For the work that they.

[Rosenberg]

Obviously, they contributed.

[Ebro]

You didn't, and you're upset about it.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I. I didn't get the but from some. But from some. I did.

[Ebro]

Yeah. It's just not unanimous. It's like figuring out a Drake hip hop classic album. There's not a unanimous decision on this.

[Rosenberg]

Half the art. Yeah. No, for sure. Lord Jamar shows up. Nah, he's not even a dj. What?

[Laura]

You're like, I am.

[Ebro]

Wait, you didn't come up with a special name?

[Rosenberg]

Why didn't you come up with a fake name and. And wear a hat and grow a long beard so we can't tell whether you're 100%. Why? You just want who you are.

[Laura]

Oh, my God.

[Rosenberg]

Anyways, any big birthday plans?

[Ebro]

Last night was the big plan. I went out with my family to dinner.

[Rosenberg]

Well, where'd you go? Talk about.

[Ebro]

We went to. Where did we go at Budokan. I've been there, and, man, it feels like a decade.

[Laura]

I know, I know.

[Ebro]

Baby.

[Rosenberg]

Baby.

[Ebro]

In effect, everybody.

[Rosenberg]

Wow. Whole fam.

[Ebro]

That was really. What? And Jazz was like, I know. This is just quiet. I was like, I like quiet.

[Laura]

I love.

[Ebro]

I don't like big to do well.

[Rosenberg]

And last year you had a big to do.

[Ebro]

There was a situation last year, which for some reason, Jazz was still kind of like, you know. I know. Last year, that wasn't. I'm sorry about last year. But, you know, because I wasn't enthusiastic about a big party. I wasn't like, yeah, I need to do something crazy.

[Rosenberg]

That's not Jazz's fault.

[Ebro]

No, that's what.

[Rosenberg]

Your fault.

[Ebro]

That's what I said, I mean, no

[Rosenberg]

fault, but you get the.

[Ebro]

Well, that's why I said I was like, you didn't.

[Rosenberg]

You mean you weren't enthusiastic in the lead up to it.

[Ebro]

Right? Like, I wasn't like, yo, I gotta do something crazy for my 50th. I actually, for my birthday, I often end up thinking, I have so many great days throughout the year. Right. So I'm that kind of person. I know it's corny, but there's a lot of days I'm like, yo, my life's great, man. This. This is awesome. And I do fun stuff for work.

[Rosenberg]

Totally.

[Ebro]

So then the birthday comes around. It's like, do I need to do more or do I honestly need to do less for a second and reflect on how great things are and chill out for a second and maybe go to sleep and have a good night with my family and. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And also coming off of a big birthday to a very nothing birthday in terms of, like, the year marker, what would you. Of course, you want to keep it low key.

[Ebro]

Right. And then I also like to do, like, multiple things.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

Like maybe I want to get a massage. I want to go to dinner on this night. I'm going to drive upstate this week. And like, you know.

[Rosenberg]

Right, right, right. Different stuff.

[Ebro]

Look at my stuff.

[Rosenberg]

Look at your stuff.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Maybe pull out some old. Yeah, pull out a turntable, take a look at it. Nah, not that stuff.

[Ebro]

No, not this stuff. That stuff's in storage. I got some ill turntables.

[Rosenberg]

I know. How many turntables you got in storage?

[Ebro]

Probably five.

[Rosenberg]

Why don't we. We can. They won't quite fit on that, will they?

[Laura]

I got memorabilia, storage, and bring it to the studio.

[Ebro]

Well, so you guys, audience. Do we really. The studio's beautiful. I love it where it's at right now. Laura and Rosenberg want toys.

[Rosenberg]

It's not about wanting to.

[Ebro]

No, it's going to be all toys.

[Rosenberg]

It won't be.

[Ebro]

It's just a toy because it is a toy.

[Rosenberg]

I brought in three different items today. Two of them are technically toys. One of them, particularly the duck down one. I mean, that's kind of like an art piece more than a toy. They sent it out as a limited art piece to friends. Indeed. You probably have one. Some.

[Laura]

Even the toys are limited, though, in hardcore.

[Ebro]

Oh, here goes Laura with unlimited toys coming off the. Where'd you guys go? Vintage. Vintage con. Vintage con. You guys dressed up in vintage clothes and went vintage toy and clothing shop.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, and this, for example. Example. All right, this isn't Even a toy.

[Laura]

It's a collectible Ebro.

[Rosenberg]

This. This is just like. I thought this just a cool. This, like, I feel like this is very us. This is very all of us.

[Ebro]

And we love Tribe Called Wet.

[Rosenberg]

And it's got the Tribe actual, like, print on it.

[Ebro]

All right. What's in it? I like it.

[Rosenberg]

I took the records out. I'm not leaving my records here. What's in it? You want me to leave?

[Ebro]

So you just gave us a box.

[Rosenberg]

You don't want no more? No, I want it. I definitely want this back at some point. I love it. Had the album records in it. But, like, I'm not going to leave the records in. In case, I don't know, one day Ebro has a bad day, says, never come back. And then I don't have the records either. So I brought this. I thought this was. I'm trying to think of things that represent us that aren't a bottle of liquor or like a, you know, a book.

[Ebro]

Definitely not doing bottles of liquor.

[Laura]

Not. No to the liquor. But I like this Ebro then.

[Ebro]

Of course you do, Laura, because it's toys and things on a shelf, not a toy.

[Rosenberg]

Now this one is special because this is our guy. All of us had a relationship with this guy. And they had. This day couldn't go. I reached out to the team and was like, yo, I wish I could go to Pittsburgh for this day. I couldn't go. And the Clancy sent me the Mac Miller bobblehead in Pittsburgh. So this isn't just a random bob. Like, we put up a loose bobblehead, but, like, how many people do we have that we consider a friend who's a legend who passed away and they have a bobblehead for him from his hometown? So I thought. And by the way, Mac and Tribe kind of goes kind of pretty cool.

[Ebro]

It works together kind of hip hop. And no, I'm glad. I'm glad. Mac Miller. Speaking of Mac Miller, yesterday when we were talking about Jack Harlow.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

People brought up a lot of other white individuals in the sphere of black music that, you know, didn't get ridiculed or put out different types of music that weren't straight ahead hip hop, Mac Miller being one of them. And people were knowledgeable enough to point out that Mac Miller did the work, though. Like, he literally was a musician who created an atmosphere for other musicians and creatives to come together and create in LA with people that you love. The Tyler's, the Scissors, the schoolboy Q's. There's probably Vince, Thundercats, Thundercats on and on. He did that work literally in that space for a decade. Yeah, right. And so, yes, I think a lot of what Jack Harlow is getting back is people not seeing the work and not hearing the work in the recording.

[Rosenberg]

I actually feel. I'm not talking about like level of rhymes or anything like that, or even artistry in terms of the way the person contributed. I think Mac Miller is the greatest white boy rapper of all time, I'll give you that.

[Ebro]

I'm not mad at that.

[Rosenberg]

The way he contributed gave. The only controversy Mac Miller ever had in hip hop was that he used Lord Finesse's instrumental to rhyme on. And Finesse felt away about it first. And Laura, by the face you're making, it's a nothing. But all he did was put out a record. And because again, at first, who is this white boy? He got the. Why did you rap on Hip to the Game by Lord Finesse. Now that record is everywhere. It was put on everything. Officially. Finesse got his due. My guess is it's one or two of Finesse's biggest credits probably is that he produced that record for Mac. So like even that was the one thing that existed. Besides that, all Mac ever did was contribute, help put on, do the work. How can I learn? How can I get better? And he didn't. When he went to a different musical direction, he didn't retreat into country for some sort of grift. He did lean a little bit more into the music of like his parents upbringing and it became more a mix. And it was a mix soulful with a little bit of like Rocky in it, but mostly felt like him, you know what I mean? I was thinking about that exact same thing. Yesterday is like the misstep that this was. Right. Or maybe it's not a misstep though. Not everybody's built from the exact same cloth. They're not.

[Ebro]

Yeah. I would like to categorize what Jack Harlow did or is doing or which has happened, however you want to frame it as a misstep. Because I think he's a nice guy. Like I haven't. And I'm fine being wrong later on and figuring out he's a arrogant privilege.

[Rosenberg]

No, I don't.

[Ebro]

Whatever. But I don't, you know, that's not the person that I've. I've met. It seems like somebody who wants to get feedback from people wants, you know, insight like that's what I've seen. So unless that I guess that could have changed, but you know, so anyway, yo, shout to your toys.

[Rosenberg]

You Don't. Do you want we put any of them up or.

[Ebro]

No, I think you just can put up three and then work from there. Is that your plan?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Yeah. I think the first we should try. We're not committed.

[Ebro]

I want to see people vote. Do you guys want this room?

[Rosenberg]

Let's see how it looks.

[Ebro]

Memorabilia.

[Rosenberg]

Laura, let Malcolm. Let Malcolm be the first thing we ever put up. We see how it goes. He won't be offended if we decide to take him down. Pick a good spot. Laura, you're art curator, for God's sake.

[Ebro]

Nah, Mac can't be by himself.

[Rosenberg]

No, you look here. Give him Tribe. You know, Tribe. You know, Tribe was his fault, and

[Ebro]

I love Mac, but he needs Tribe.

[Rosenberg]

You can't just have a white guy up there.

[Ebro]

Can't have a white rapper up there.

[Rosenberg]

No, he would understand. You know, he would agree.

[Ebro]

He'd be like, yeah, nah, it's od.

[Rosenberg]

Here you go. Give the duck down.

[Ebro]

What is that? A duck down paperweight. What is that be.

[Laura]

It's heavy.

[Rosenberg]

It's heavy as hell.

[Ebro]

So they just sent you a paperweight?

[Rosenberg]

It was part of, like, their Anna. It was like a little anniversary thing they put out.

[Ebro]

And how does it. Yo, yo, Chat. How does it look on camera? That's the other part. Do you even know what the hell it is or. It just looks like the Tribe.

[Rosenberg]

The Tribe thing definitely jumps off, which is nice, right? No. You're such a pain in my ass. Just give it a shot, bro.

[Ebro]

I don't know. Like, you asked me for an answer. I'm looking at the screen. I don't know.

[Rosenberg]

Well, because we have a lot of space there. So the question is, should there be anything, like, other stuff on the top?

[Laura]

Let's try one.

[Rosenberg]

You try one shelf. We add a couple more things to fill it in, and it can have a. Doesn't have to all be toys. Do you have any suggestions, birthday boy?

[Ebro]

I literally asked the chat what they thought. I'm out on this. You like collecting things. You have nine storage units. She likes collecting the duck down.

[Rosenberg]

The duck down piece is kind of fire, artsy, fartsy. Laura. Some stuff, but not everywhere.

[Laura]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

I love the memorabilia, but it can quickly look like a tacky college dorm room real quick. Agree. You don't want to have it everywhere. Could be nasty. Some people say you can't see it. It's too dark. Look small. No toys. Someone wrote no weed. Oh. Someone says, put tribe in the middle.

[Laura]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

Okay. Tribe only. It looks good.

[Ebro]

So it's all over the place.

[Rosenberg]

Okay, Trump golf club ad interrupted Ebro's birthday talk. I hate the ads. All right, so here's another conversation to have real quick business together. Do you guys think that we should switch to a format where we choose. This is really for the chat.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Where we choose ads and play them a few times during the show, but no one will ever feel interrupted. So in other words, maybe two, three times throughout the whole hour, we would go. We're going to take a quick break

[Ebro]

and say that we could just hit a sweet, you know, or hit a sleeper.

[Rosenberg]

Sure. But it would be planned. And people can know that when we hit the commercial, they're not missing our words. Because right now you could be in the middle of.

[Ebro]

I thought we could have just did that. Once you guys figure out how to actually do it.

[Rosenberg]

We can, but they still might be like, nah, it's annoying. I don't know.

[Ebro]

Like, nah, they'll get it.

[Laura]

They're used to commercials especially, because I think the most annoying part is when we're mid sentence and it's like, boop, whatever. Ad for terrible Tylenol or whatever.

[Rosenberg]

And then you hit skip.

[Ebro]

How does the Trump ad get in here? That means they're targeting our program.

[Laura]

Could be.

[Rosenberg]

That's crazy.

[Ebro]

That means that someone somewhere is like, yo, make sure we get into these type of shows.

[Rosenberg]

Or. Or they are able to know the things we talk about and they know we talk about.

[Ebro]

No, they're seeing the description.

[Laura]

There are people who specifically follow us because of our.

[Rosenberg]

Everyone says, yes. The whole chat is only yes, yes, yes, yes, planned ads.

[Ebro]

Rosenberg's jumping out here. We haven't actually figured out how to do that yet.

[Rosenberg]

You didn't see me send it.

[Ebro]

Yeah, but we need someone to do it.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, you're right. You're right. But it laid it out very. I said, but we got.

[Ebro]

We need a person.

[Laura]

Okay, we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out.

[Rosenberg]

We're efforting, folks.

[Laura]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

I think. I think it's good, though, because. Yeah, the crazy ads in the middle of something big. You heard YouTube is speaking of crazy ads. You heard the Oscars are going to YouTube next year only.

[Ebro]

Okay, I like it.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. They did a skit about it. Conan did a skit about where exactly that. Where he's like, and it's gonna be the exact same thing, but. And then he just cut off and an ad started playing. So they did that exact riff, but.

[Ebro]

Well, they'll probably charge a premium and try to make ad free.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, they already do, you know, how?

[Laura]

YouTube.

[Rosenberg]

It's ad free for premium.

[Ebro]

No, no, no. I mean, while you're watching the Oscars for everybody watching, somebody pays a top dollar so they don't have to.

[Rosenberg]

Right, but that's how. That's YouTube in general.

[Ebro]

Right now, if you're paying a premium.

[Rosenberg]

Right, but, like, right now, do you pay for at YouTube or you don't watch YouTube?

[Ebro]

I watch YouTube TV. That's our TV.

[Rosenberg]

No, no.

[Laura]

Oh, so you do. You subscribe to it. But that's 89.

[Ebro]

No, that's a whole different.

[Rosenberg]

That's YouTube TV. It's totally different.

[Ebro]

That's for live TV.

[Rosenberg]

You don't pay for premium on YouTube.

[Ebro]

No.

[Rosenberg]

And you don't either.

[Laura]

No.

[Rosenberg]

So Kenza gets ads. If you're watching YouTube, kids, there'll be commercials.

[Ebro]

Yeah. And so I see. Gets ads.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, kids doesn't get it.

[Laura]

Ads.

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Laura]

And I pre select what she can watch. So there is no ads.

[Ebro]

But Selassie's getting ads. I don't know what Jazz is watching.

[Rosenberg]

Well, maybe she's not specifically watching YouTube.

[Ebro]

She might be watching on just YouTube.

[Laura]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Laura]

And then pulling up kids content.

[Rosenberg]

It could be kids content. But my. My. My dad was laughing at me because I don't pay for it, which is so funny because my parents are so cheap. But he was like, you. You don't pay for YouTube. I was like, it's expensive. They want 30 bucks to remove those ads, man. 30. $30.

[Ebro]

Use the money you were saving from doing your parking app, Hustle and move it and put that over to you.

[Rosenberg]

But I'm still doing it.

[Ebro]

No, I know, but you're saving money over here and then throw it over there.

[Rosenberg]

I'm not saving money. I'm losing everywhere. The parking app is still a loss.

[Ebro]

I paid for parking last night. I thought about you. I was like, this is why people pay. Whatever that little extra money. Talking about, I have time to be worried about that. I was going into a dinner. I'm not. I'm with my kid. I'm not gonna be jumping up on an app and redoing parking and all that. So I'm gonna pay that. But if you.

[Rosenberg]

But if you were sitting. If you were sitting in the same place every day for four hours, could you handle doing the.

[Ebro]

Probably not.

[Laura]

He's impatient. He's not gonna do it, and he doesn't care.

[Ebro]

We care.

[Rosenberg]

Yesterday, I thought, about $10.

[Laura]

We'll save it five.

[Ebro]

No, I want to be like you guys. I really. I really do. I want Jaz like, y' all like, I'm glad I have people in my life like that. I have no patience. I. When somebody's like, convenience fee. I'm like, I like convenience. We'll pay the fee. Okay. What is that? What is that? Convenience.

[Rosenberg]

I like the sound of this. Convenience fee. Tell me more. They're like, it's just because we want to charge you.

[Ebro]

All right, well, I'm. I'm going to maximize on this. I'm going to be asking you for stuff that maybe you didn't plan.

[Rosenberg]

I want some convenience.

[Ebro]

I want some convenience.

[Laura]

I just hit Rosenberg with a new ride shop.

[Ebro]

I'm.

[Laura]

Look how much cheaper this is.

[Rosenberg]

And we're like, laura, Laura, Laura.

[Ebro]

What?

[Rosenberg]

Hey, yo.

[Laura]

Oh, don't blow it up.

[Ebro]

Yo. You keeping stuff from the listeners, bro.

[Rosenberg]

I thought about it. I don't know if we could share,

[Laura]

bro, but I don't understand the issue with sharing.

[Rosenberg]

It's gonna go.

[Ebro]

What are you talking about?

[Rosenberg]

Ebro? Will you explain to this lady?

[Ebro]

Congratulations. No, I'm not gonna explain to her if she doesn't get it.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, listen, I'm a bad guy

[Ebro]

out there in the wilderness by herself.

[Rosenberg]

Listen, I. I admit I thought about. I was like, we should go on the air and talk about this. And then I'm like, But then it will. It could. We literally have the power to make that ad more. That app more expensive by tomorrow?

[Laura]

Actually, yeah. We can't say anything.

[Rosenberg]

Not quite yet.

[Laura]

They need to know. They need to advertise and that part.

[Rosenberg]

But right now, there is one out there, guys, that you could find that is definitely better than Uber in them. I'll say that.

[Ebro]

Yes. But before you guys play yourself, I do want to put up some. One of my favorite. Congratulations. You played yourself maybe of the week.

[Rosenberg]

I saw that you were very excited about one.

[Ebro]

This is from ig, guy named Major League. He's a good follower. His news that he gives is pretty good. It is number 16 for you, Rahsaan.

[Laura]

Okay, listen.

[Rosenberg]

Reuters is reporting that dozens of white South Africans who were recently granted asylum in the United States are now voluntarily returning to their home country. Although the Trump administration framed their arrival as a necessary rescue from racial persecution, these families are finding the American economy nearly impossible to navigate. Many of those returning cite the high cost of housing, lack of affordable health care, and a missing social safety net as the primary reasons for their departure. These refugees are discovering that the financial reality of life in the US Is far more difficult than the life they left behind in South Africa. What does it say about the persecution these people were up against in South Africa that they would choose to return because the rent is too expensive. This is what we get when immigration and asylum policies are shaped by white nationalists. The Trump administration invited the white beneficiaries of apartheid to America while hunting down black and brown people in the streets. These people were a symbol of a specific political agenda that chose to prioritize whiteness over everything else.

[Ebro]

Yo, congratulations. That's good stuff right there. That's good stuff.

[Rosenberg]

They had to go home.

[Laura]

They were like, wait, where he. This is what y' all pay now?

[Ebro]

I went and looked up. It's a significant. I don't know if it's all of the families, but a significant portion of the. I think it was. Griff. Look it up. I think it was 50 or 80 families that they had brought over.

[Laura]

Honestly, I don't care if it's just one. It's hilarious.

[Ebro]

No, it's hilarious. It's a. It's. It's really good. Now, also on Ebro's Algo, I don't how many. It was 60 families that he had originally brought over from South Africa that were, quote, unquote, refugees and even the South African government.

[Rosenberg]

Everyone.

[Ebro]

What are you talking.

[Rosenberg]

Not real.

[Ebro]

Not real. Now they're going home because they're like, this economy is trash. And bye.

[Rosenberg]

I just want to say. Let me, on behalf of everybody, say bye.

[Ebro]

Bye. Now, I've been sending you guys this because it keeps popping up on Ebro's Algo, and I don't even know which thing to show you guys about Netanyahu being dead.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, you know what? I can't believe we haven't talked about on the show over the last couple of days.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

So what do you want to show?

[Ebro]

Well, I don't know which one.

[Rosenberg]

Let me.

[Ebro]

Let me get. But I sent it to you guys because it was being bombarded, not because I believe Netanyahu's dead. There's no reason. Look, they could be putting out AI videos because he's in hiding. They're trying to keep him safe. Who? I don't know, but they.

[Rosenberg]

But the main point is this. Over the weekend, I got a text from a friend who just wrote BB dead, question mark.

[Ebro]

So that happened on someone else. You knows, I'll go.

[Laura]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Ebro]

I didn't know you guys were saying.

[Rosenberg]

I would say it's. Oh, all over. It's definitely all over Ricardo's algorithm, but it's all over some. But my friend hit me up and goes, asked me if he's dead. I started Looking mainstream news, you can't find it. You dig around on Twitter, there are a lot of people who believe he's dead because he did. Hasn't been. He didn't do his normal briefing with the Defense Ministry or whatever and hasn't really been seen in a true public event.

[Ebro]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

Or not public events. Not doing a lot of public events,

[Ebro]

but you know what I'm saying, One of their. One of their governmental things.

[Rosenberg]

He hasn't been seen. And then after all the noise about that he was allegedly killed in an Iranian strike, a missile hit, like his house or whatever, hit somewhere where he was. Israel puts out this video, yo. And if he's not dead, it is the weirdest video.

[Ebro]

Like which one? The coffee. The coffee videos go to 18 rahsaan.

[Rosenberg]

The one thing anyone with an eye for AI would do is find the one inanimate object with the most detail, going through the most movement, and that's the coffee. I went ahead and zoomed in and followed the coffee cup the entire time for you so that you can gauge a few things for yourselves. But here are my observations. When he picks up the cup, it is filled to the absolute brim. And he picks it up rather aggressively without spilling a single drop. The top of the coffee seems to be a uniform, solid color. And then miraculously, a foam design shows up on the top of the cup. This happens a couple of times throughout the clip. I want you to keep in mind that Netanyahu is talking the entire time, not looking at the cup at all, while his hands move as he talks. And not a single drop is filled down the cup the entire time. He even takes a healthy sip of this coffee. And not only is it still at the exact same. You can stop it though, because, like, it basically keeps going. He shows him. Take a sip. It doesn't really go down. To me, the weirdness is not only those very AI looking things, but why on earth would they. Unless to your point, he's hiding and they just want to, like, mess with people. Why would a real Netanyahu, at this moment, the video they choose to make is in a coffee shop in public right now.

[Ebro]

Right. He's out just walking around and Sidebar. That coffee shop, which is in, I believe, the west bank on stolen Palestinian land.

[Rosenberg]

Well, that's what they said. The thing.

[Ebro]

Yeah, that. Well, that's all. Multiple things on that. And you. And then you can see some. Another thing I saw showed, like the Yelp reviews.

[Rosenberg]

It's closed.

[Ebro]

And it's closed.

[Rosenberg]

It's closed, right?

[Laura]

Oh, okay.

[Ebro]

So the coffee shop's not even there. So if you just shot that, that's

[Rosenberg]

what people were saying, that the coffee shop's not actually there.

[Laura]

I saw one where he was talking, but it was like, you know how AI doesn't get fingers, right? So it was six fingers.

[Rosenberg]

So that one I saw debunked, supposedly the six finger one I saw debunked, I saw a different video of the same thing. And you can see that he has five fingers, but this part of his hand, like looked like it was a finger. But yes, that was where it started. The six fingers was the beginning of it. Which does make me question the whole thing that the origin story goes back to.

[Ebro]

Your point is why wouldn't they just put out a video?

[Rosenberg]

Why don't we just see him doing so? Like, why isn't he just speaking in a government thing?

[Laura]

That's what I'm saying. In a secure situation, we could just go live.

[Rosenberg]

He hasn't been rare.

[Ebro]

Well, so I, you know, people keep asking me whether or not I believe this, right? Just in my family. And I've been saying I'm not sure because I also believe that we are in this psychological operation, this psyop where they're trying, they're playing games with Iranians, trying to get them to do things. They're trying to get us to respond to stuff, share stuff, collect data. Like I'm not quite sure what the end game is. So until I get confirmation, because we are dealing with. Guys, when you're talking about the US and Israel, you are talking about the most conniving, disruptive, criminal, corrupt things in the history of the planet.

[Rosenberg]

And then you have to ask from a tech standpoint and sophisticated.

[Ebro]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

So now they have one.

[Laura]

To me, they have.

[Ebro]

Games are being played. So I don't know what.

[Rosenberg]

Well, I asked my dad. I was with my dad yesterday. He hadn't seen that video yet. He, I called him Saturday when I heard the rumor and he hadn't even heard it yet. I gave, I nearly gave him a heart attack. Because we can get into that in a second.

[Ebro]

Bibi.

[Rosenberg]

Actually, Netanyahu being assassinated would not be good news for anyone. If you care about the well being of Palestinian or Israeli people. I do not think an assassination at this time will go well for any of us.

[Laura]

Why?

[Rosenberg]

Really quickly, if Netanyahu was successfully assassinated, according to my dad, they would immediately just start murdering Palestinians in the West Bank.

[Ebro]

Immediately. It will be no hesitation.

[Rosenberg]

Citizens.

[Laura]

I can see that.

[Rosenberg]

Citizens. Settlers. Crazy settlers. Sanctioned by far right government extremists. Will just murder Palestinians.

[Ebro]

Now what about the other?

[Rosenberg]

They will use it as a reason to just go absolutely crazy.

[Ebro]

Now what about the other ends? Because this is not often talked about, because I believe it's silenced the other end of the Israeli government and population. That is so much against all of that. They have zero power. They have zero. They can't stop anything.

[Rosenberg]

I think the government will do what they've been trying to do, where other people will try to intercede. They'll. I don't know if they go to a special election.

[Ebro]

I thought they would go to a special election.

[Rosenberg]

But my guess is what always happens in time of war, we see this everywhere. People tend to rally to the people that are around. They're emotional and they want to. So just like in this country, whatever feelings you have about Trump, Stephen Miller and Pete Hegseth are Under Trump. Hello, J.D.

[Ebro]

vance.

[Rosenberg]

Under Netanyahu is worse than Netanyahu. As. As bad as he is. It could be. You like if you think it could not be worse. Oh, it could. I'm sure it could be worse. And I worry that's what happened, dad.

[Ebro]

To explain how the Israeli government works, because remember, I can't understand. I don't understand it. Just a second ago, they were trying to lock Netanyahu up. Just a second.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, no, they're still. That's still going on. He's still fighting back about. End this witch hunt. And he's fighting with the president because he's the prime minister.

[Ebro]

See, I don't understand.

[Rosenberg]

What are we talking about telling the president? End the witch hunt. This is ridiculous.

[Ebro]

So they're still actively trying to lock Netanyahu up.

[Rosenberg]

They're still.

[Ebro]

So there's a faction of the government that disagrees with everything that's going on?

[Rosenberg]

Yes. Right.

[Ebro]

Under Netanyahu are more crazies, which has been documented.

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro]

And you're telling me if, if he were to be gone in a violent fashion, there would be no control over the government. I'm not talking about the people.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, I know.

[Ebro]

I know the government.

[Rosenberg]

But ask the. As much as I also don't understand their operations, everything that you just said would be true here. Huge faction of the government that's completely against it. If anything were to happen, they still wouldn't gain any power. Like it would be the same. I don't think anything would change. I don't think so. Now listen, if he died peacefully and like I thought he had, there were health things they were talking about with him a month ago too. If he just Dropped dead randomly, then maybe, you know, I could see that then leading to some sort. But still, the people under him are still gonna take power. That's what I'm saying. You're still gonna have to get to an election and win in some way. I just, So I asked my dad, I said, why would they be faking it, though? Explain that to me. I don't understand it. And he doesn't believe that he's dead, but he said the reason they would be faking it is that if Iran was successful in getting to the most protected person in all of Israel, Israel would never allow the rest of the Middle east to know that, not in any short order. They're going to protect that for as long as possible.

[Ebro]

So I saw people.

[Rosenberg]

And not let you think you scored a huge win like that.

[Ebro]

So I saw the, you know, the Internet's talking about that and the fact that Israel would never let this be known, not, not in this climate, period.

[Rosenberg]

And with the AI, they could delay it as long as they need to, period, full stop.

[Ebro]

They just, There would be no upside in them letting people know that that actually happened. Zero.

[Rosenberg]

So it, so it. No.

[Ebro]

And did you see the guy? I forget his name, he works under Trump, he was doing an interview with a British outlet and he got snatched away. And he had to, he had to, he had to go, did you guys see this interview?

[Rosenberg]

No, no.

[Ebro]

What's his name?

[Laura]

And then he came back, like, scared.

[Ebro]

Yes. You saw it?

[Laura]

Yeah, I just. You sent me so much. I, you know, get.

[Ebro]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But anyway, they said that's when he was told that, you know, people are speculating that this guy got yanked away about, you know, end of last week from an interview, got pulled away from an interview, came back, sat down and was visibly shaken.

[Laura]

What I saw, yes, just like confused, didn't know what to say, scared.

[Rosenberg]

But, but real quick, if this were more legitimate, wouldn't there at least be physical evidence of the area that would be.

[Ebro]

Well, how would we get, how would we get this information? Where would this come from?

[Laura]

Right, right, right.

[Rosenberg]

What outlet, some Israeli news outlet, I would think would find it and they

[Ebro]

would put it out?

[Rosenberg]

But that's the thing. I don't even know because, like, I've been looking on Haaretz every day, which is very, very left, and Haaretz hasn't even talked about this story.

[Ebro]

Because why would they? Why would they?

[Rosenberg]

Well, what do you mean, why would they?

[Ebro]

Because to what you're saying about people being harmed, they're not going to perpetuate chaos. Like, no response.

[Rosenberg]

Even if you're. Even if you're very left, no responsible

[Ebro]

outlets going to be like, yo, I'm going to go out and make an announcement about this with all of these crazies.

[Rosenberg]

But why? Back to the video. I just can't imagine. He's in a coffee shop. You see the other one? There's another video with the ring and the dogs. Yeah. And he's coming up and he's like, oh, Israeli dog is a mutt. Blah, blah. Everything's good. The war is going great. It feels weird, bro. Yeah. But then I hate when I get suckered into something. I'm like, it's very hard to tell now.

[Ebro]

Well, we know it's a.

[Rosenberg]

What? We do know it's AI the videos we're seeing. We're sure of it.

[Ebro]

Yes, because they've done scans on it. It's like 90% AI.

[Laura]

And where did they come from? Like, who released them?

[Rosenberg]

The Israeli government. I think the first one.

[Laura]

The coffee one.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I think the coffee one was put out on an official.

[Ebro]

Okay, the question is, why Israel website? Why AI? That's the question. And we can all wait and find out.

[Rosenberg]

But that might go back to your original thought, though, of just, like, setting up.

[Ebro]

No.

[Rosenberg]

And setting up. How far can we push right now, even if he's alive?

[Ebro]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

Let's see what we could do. How much can we manipulate people?

[Ebro]

That's.

[Rosenberg]

How much can we.

[Ebro]

Well, that's what this. All of this is about. Right? Because what's going on between Iran, going on in the Middle East, Trump, Lebanon.

[Rosenberg]

Crazy in Lebanon. Right?

[Ebro]

Everything. Everything that's going on over there is all about manipulation. It is not a religious war. You are being manipulated. Anybody that thinks this is a religious war, you're being manipulated.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, this is. This is not religion. This is money.

[Ebro]

Anybody that. Anybody that thinks we care about the safety and protection of the citizens of Iran, you also are being manipulated. Because Saudi Arabia just a few years ago cut off 80 people's heads. Bahrain is absolutely not a democracy.

[Rosenberg]

And you say these are places the US has no issue.

[Ebro]

These are our allies. We have military bases in these places. And these governments do harm to their people. The UAE actively participates. Dubai actively participates in slavery, where people who are working there in Dubai can't control their comings and goings. They can't have their passport if they're working on Trump properties. There's a documentary my friend Ben did for Vice News 10 years ago. Yeah.

[Laura]

I've seen countless mini docs of, like, African Women, Filipino women, Just Indian men and women. Yes. Just trapped.

[Ebro]

So don't.

[Rosenberg]

Don't believe that.

[Ebro]

Don't believe that. That we care what's going on with the Iranian population and citizens.

[Rosenberg]

And on the flip side of that, if you are someone who cares about Israel and you think that they care right now about the population of Israel and that they're really worried, they don't give a damn that everyone's going into these shelters every single night. Everyone's full family, their dogs, everyone. And I know. I know that to normal people, the last thing to worry about with all the human death going on is dogs. But the torture of dogs right now with these sirens and having to go, it's like an. Everything's just a nightmare there. You. They don't care. They don't care about the missiles start coming.

[Ebro]

But how about this? Remember the clip I played yesterday where the guy, the dude with the beer, was like, obama did it better.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

Right. That sentiment is specifically about what's going on right now. You know how long Israel has been trying to get the United States to do what Trump is doing right now?

[Rosenberg]

Forever. We've watched all the videos, Joe.

[Ebro]

The reason they were coming to deals with Iran and figuring out terms and releasing assets and unfreezing assets and putting sanctions and undoing sanctions and having nuclear deals was to avoid this.

[Laura]

And here we are.

[Ebro]

And here we are because everyone has dirt on Trump. Congratulations, you played yourself.

[Rosenberg]

Because I know Trump used to talk mad ish about Iran. Obama's going to go to war with Iran. Trust me. You see those videos, right?

[Laura]

All those tweets and videos. We've seen all of them.

[Rosenberg]

And guess who went to war with Iran? And I was just listening to the Daily Today about how severe the attacks in Lebanon are, too. So the second the war in Iran started, Hezbollah fire. You know, everyone does what they're supposed to do. Hezbollah fires their missiles at Israel. Israel now is going hard by. Israel wants to, like, decimate Beirut.

[Ebro]

That's what they want to do anyway.

[Rosenberg]

How can they.

[Ebro]

Because they want to expand the border.

[Rosenberg]

How can they think that's going to work? How? It's like, the only time Israel was truly needed for Jewish people, it wasn't around. It didn't exist. When we needed it the most, it wasn't there.

[Ebro]

I'm not talking about World War II.

[Rosenberg]

Yes. And I'm not blaming anyone for that. I'm just saying it wasn't around yet. It wasn't a state Jews could run to during the Holocaust. And ever since then, I Feel like we're safer elsewhere. And I feel like this is all making us less safe. That's my. I think the people, the Jews in the. I always get the, you know, there are more Jews there than anywhere, blah, blah. I worry. You think they're safer there. You don't think they'd be safer in the Diaspora, wherever that may be. And you think this is going to make you safer.

[Ebro]

Oh, I got something for you. Yo, Joe, Congratulations. You play.

[Rosenberg]

I saw Joe Budden having a conversation with Mark Lamont Hill clip came up where Joe basically asked Mark, I mean, how do I say this respectfully to a man who I love and respect? In Joe, it was top five least sophisticated political questions I've ever seen asked out loud.

[Ebro]

Yeah, but I mean, why would he. Why. That's not his area of expertise.

[Rosenberg]

It's. He has very sophisticated hip hop takes all the time and other things. Anyways. But Joe's like, basically, yeah, we know we're in war now, Mark, but now that we're there, who are you rooting for, basically?

[Ebro]

And Mark, which actually is a controversial question. It is.

[Rosenberg]

What? It's just a bet. I mean.

[Ebro]

Well, to Mark, for Mark, remember, this is a guy that's been outspoken pro Palestinian for a long time. Right. And said things that got him removed from jobs. That if he said right now. Right. Would he still be removed from those same jobs?

[Rosenberg]

Maybe, maybe. But maybe not. Because the sentiment has changed.

[Ebro]

The sentiment has changed. But when he said from the river to the sea and he wants seeing powder Palestine free, that got him out of there. They got him up. Where was he at at the time? Was it. Where was that?

[Rosenberg]

The play, the one, the gig that he lost? Yeah, I can't remember. I can't remember. The American outlet before he was at Al Jazeera. He was also at Al Jazeera at the time.

[Ebro]

No, I think it was after that. He moved to Al Jazeera after. But I think it was. Maybe it was cnn. Can you look that up for me, Griff? Where Mark Lamont. I forgot. But it got him about it. But he's been very vocal about this.

[Rosenberg]

So that. But. But Joe knows that.

[Ebro]

So he's why he asked him the question.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah. But the reason I'm mocking the question so much, somewhat or a lot is just the idea of rooting for someone in war as if it's actually like a team event where anyone's gonna win. Like there is no. And Mark, obviously more eloquently than me, answered, like the idea of someone winning a War is absurd. There is no win. For what people? For who? For the rich, you mean. Which. Which rich people are you rooting to get more money? Like, what are you.

[Ebro]

I'm not. Well, but now. But now, that sentiment of winning a war, Right, like, you got where. Where those of us who maybe have thought about it. Right, like you're saying, like, what are you actually rooting for? Some people think there is a win. And. And I want the audience to know who's watching this right now. You know, the United States hasn't won a war.

[Rosenberg]

No. Well, I mean, World War II.

[Ebro]

Yeah, but we came in late and dropped atomic bombs. We weren't even in. We only got involved when it was financially beneficial. What was the win? Yeah, what did you win?

[Rosenberg]

World War II was like a wrestling match, and the. In the US was a run in at the end. We weren't even in the match.

[Ebro]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

We ended up standing tall when the match end and they played our music. Yeah, but like, you weren't in this match.

[Ebro]

You just ran down the thing.

[Rosenberg]

Stone Cold's glass breaks, he runs down. But that wasn't your match, right? Yeah, there's not one that we want. And every.

[Ebro]

Vietnam, Korea, no Afghanistan, we go in

[Rosenberg]

places, tons of people die. American soldiers die, money gets spent, bombs get dropped. Nothing. There's a regime change. Then we want to change the regime again. It never works. This is. Oh, yeah. Forever.

[Ebro]

So, I mean, in the chat, let me know, what did we win? When have we won civil. You can't win the Civil War.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, only one side can win.

[Ebro]

And we didn't win that either, because guess what? You still have people who believe they're Confederates. You still have people running flags.

[Rosenberg]

Revolutionary.

[Ebro]

Revolutionary War.

[Laura]

Yeah, they love that flag.

[Rosenberg]

Damn. We lost 1812. I hate to hear that. I'd had money on us. Now they burned the White House. I forgot about that.

[Ebro]

They did burn the White House in 1812.

[Rosenberg]

I bet the US to win that. Minus 170. And we. I just found out we lost the White House of 1812.

[Ebro]

Yo, let's get to the rundown. Laura, Styles, you ready?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura]

Let's go.

[Ebro]

What if we win?

[Rosenberg]

We don't ever win. But people die before people die.

[Ebro]

You know why? Sorry, Laura, There is no win. They're not trying to win. And that's where you've been lied to. Go ahead, Lor.

[Laura]

All right, switching gears. Did you guys see that clip of Tiana Taylor when she was, like, arguing with somebody, saying, like, yo, don't put your hands on me.

[Rosenberg]

I did.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Laura]

I think we have a clip of that.

[Ebro]

Do we?

[Laura]

Rahsaan. Yeah. Let's watch this.

[Rosenberg]

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[Laura]

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[Laura]

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[Rosenberg]

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[Laura]

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[Ebro]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

That's cool, man. Marvel Studios Thunderbolts the New Avengers, rated PG 13. Now streaming on. You guessed it, Disney. Plus,

[Laura]

When Tiana was making her way back to the stage, security guard allegedly attempted to stop her from going up the stairs. But he used his body and then put his hands on her. That's what happened. So that was moving around. Everybody was trying to say like, what happened? Because Tiana hasn't said anything.

[Rosenberg]

Well, right.

[Laura]

There was an apology. Check this out.

[Ebro]

Yep.

[Laura]

The Academy issued a statement.

[Rosenberg]

Now listen, they got. She got the real apology. Tiana's in that space right now.

[Laura]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

And Tiana responded to the apology.

[Laura]

Right, right, right, right, right. But I think that people were, I don't know if you guys saw the, the chatter, but people were trying to come at Tiana. Like, why are you acting like that in these spaces? And I'm like, that is wild. If something happened to this woman, she's

[Rosenberg]

not allowed to defend herself. You know, when people see a black woman do anything that's not being like demure. The, the go to reaction is they're doing something aggressive.

[Laura]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

So I saw the comments.

[Laura]

It was disgusting.

[Rosenberg]

Racist gun or racist guy. Yeah. But the Academy came out, issued a three paragraph apology and Tiana came out, was like, the Academy treated me great, I understand. Blah, blah, blah. Thank you.

[Ebro]

The Academy sent this to the people in the comments.

[Rosenberg]

Say it again because it's too quiet.

[Ebro]

You better shut your white mouth.

[Rosenberg]

Exactly.

[Laura]

Right now this. Listen, it happened a couple days ago, but I think it's still important because she actually, you know, came out and said it. Did you see Doja Cat revealed that she's been diagnosed with bpd, which is borderline personality disorder.

[Ebro]

Yo, every time I've heard of borderline personality disorder. I didn't know that. I did not know that that was like a clinical diagnosis. Borderline, like, because I was like, what do you mean borderline? You either have it or you don't.

[Rosenberg]

Bpd.

[Ebro]

So learn. For me this was learning that this is borderline, borderline. Because as people said it to me, they were like, like they have borderline personality disorder. I was kind of like, so we're not quite sure if they have it or not.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, right. I guess that's how I gotta take it too. Yeah, that's how I think it.

[Laura]

Here's Doja Cat talking about it.

[Ebro]

I've learned from a very young age to pretend that I like stuff, to

[Rosenberg]

pretend that I'm happy, to pretend that

[Laura]

I don't like stuff that I do.

[Ebro]

To appear like everything is okay, I'll get it done.

[Laura]

And.

[Ebro]

It caught up with me and I think it always does for people.

[Laura]

I'm now struggling with bpd.

[Ebro]

I don't know how long I've been.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, probably forever.

[Ebro]

So it's, it's an agonizing condition. Curable. Thank.

[Laura]

Thank God.

[Rosenberg]

And I've been in therapy for years

[Laura]

now and I am so relieved and

[Ebro]

so proud of myself. I've made it so far and I still make mistakes. But it is like an eight year process of curing, of treatment and healing to. In order to cure it. Well, first I want to say bravo, there you go. Second, I, I want to have a conversation.

[Rosenberg]

Go ahead.

[Ebro]

Just quickly and, and I'm trying to understand. I'm old. So yeah, she started and maybe her explanation wasn't great. So maybe there's somebody in the chat. Maybe somebody could send us an email. Ebro Laura Rosenberg at Gmail and maybe you can give us more insight to borderline personality disorder.

[Rosenberg]

I don't think there's a cure for that, by the way.

[Ebro]

Well, that's what she said. So I'm just basing it on.

[Rosenberg]

I think she means get it under control.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

It's like any. Most mental health issues can't be cured.

[Ebro]

So she started by saying, I've been trained to act like I like things when I don't like things and basically did like deal with like things that I don't necessarily want to deal with with. Haven't we all had to do that? Like I do that all the time.

[Laura]

I'm sure, but I'm sure I do

[Ebro]

that every day when I get up

[Rosenberg]

and go to work.

[Laura]

There's love.

[Ebro]

I do that when I'm sitting here talking about something That I hate when I'm playing a song that I hate when I'm interviewing an artist. I really don't like your music that much, but I like you. You seem nice. Let's talk.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, I don't know Laura, exactly what she was saying that. That specific part. I didn't know exactly what that meant, but I, you know, she obviously does. But do you think she means that? I don't know if she means that.

[Ebro]

I. That was in the clip. So I'm just going off with the information I have here. I'm just learning that borderline personality disorder is not borderline. It's actually full on. It's a personality disorder.

[Rosenberg]

Personality disorder.

[Ebro]

Right. Or. Or maybe there's. Maybe borderline is on a. I don't know. I don't know. That's why I asked people.

[Laura]

I think it's.

[Ebro]

I don't know also. So. But I just want everybody to know some of these things. They're things. And then some things are just called being annoyed by being a grown up and not being able to deal with it. And that actually might be the mental health piece is that you're not capable of dealing with certain things that are required of you when you're a grown up or even when you're a teenager. And they put it in the category. And I'm supportive of all of that. But based on what I just heard this person say, I also deal with this. Maybe I have a borderline personality disorder. I don't know. But it's not agonizing me.

[Rosenberg]

I think Laura, her description was incomplete. I that's. I think it was an incomplete description.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Because I don't think you have borderline personality disorder. You may have a lot of things. You for sure have things going.

[Ebro]

Well, maybe my personality disorder is not borderline.

[Rosenberg]

It may not be borderline.

[Ebro]

But.

[Rosenberg]

Do you like the song Borderline, the

[Ebro]

first song I thought of.

[Rosenberg]

It's the best Madonna song. It's up there as best Madonna songs in the conversation. But I will say this.

[Ebro]

She says, feel like I'm going to lose my mind.

[Rosenberg]

Cause you keep on pushing my love over the borderline. I'll tell you one thing though. You talk about someone who's like a dream. Guest list for Validate Me. Oh, Doja Cat. She is. She would be the ultimate guest. Oh, you remember.

[Ebro]

But I think a lot of artists would be.

[Rosenberg]

No, but she was. So she sought out so much online. It was. Remember we'd always beg Dojo. Even me, I'm gonna sit like dojo. Why?

[Ebro]

Well, Because. And shout to all the mixed kids out there. She's a mixed kid who was raised by a white mom in a white environment with, you know, kinky curly hair and big butt and, you know, melanin and attributes that didn't fit the environment she was in. So you have this kind of like, I don't fit in quite.

[Rosenberg]

Doja had a big butt. I never noticed.

[Ebro]

And. And so. So then you're sexualized by a group that actually also makes fun of you because you have different.

[Rosenberg]

Ah, it's a lot.

[Ebro]

It's a lot. And then you end up.

[Rosenberg]

And then look at her feet in chat rooms.

[Ebro]

And then you end up.

[Laura]

And then, look, she shares a lot, but we still don't know what she goes through. You know what I mean? So listen, I am proud of her for coming out and just at just embracing it and be like, look, this is what I'm dealing with.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. I've always.

[Ebro]

I want to understand what you're dealing with.

[Rosenberg]

I've always felt that we should get her in. I've always felt that Doja Cat has been misunderstood. I give. I admittedly give her a big pass. I feel like when she's had problems and said dumb things and gotten in trouble, I've always felt like she's. I do not think her heart's in a bad place. She's always seemed to me a bit troubled, but like A, incredibly talented and B, like, I think she's good. I just think she's had a tough time.

[Ebro]

Well, I also, from my. My talking to her and having interactions with her, she is like many of us, unfortunately, she doesn't put a filter on it where she's annoyed by stupidity. And even though she's done stupid things, I think she's.

[Rosenberg]

You.

[Ebro]

Like, there's this fine line between like, trolling and being annoyed by people who just don't get art and don't get. You know.

[Rosenberg]

Well, she showed that last week when she went after Timothy. Shalom.

[Ebro]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

All right, Laura, Sorry. You have something very important to go on.

[Laura]

Oh, yes. Well, our dear friend Nori stopped by the show.

[Ebro]

Oh.

[Laura]

After he heard that we were. Well, that you were talking. Ish.

[Rosenberg]

Well, no, I was talking about what happened. Ebro then started talk calling him out his name.

[Ebro]

No, chill. I didn't call Nori out his name. I was just kind of like, why do you care what Nori thinks?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, he'll do anything.

[Ebro]

Like.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, no. He called him horror.

[Ebro]

I did not. I just know that when Nori walks into a room with People, he's a happy guy. So he says stuff to make those people feel great and loved and all the things. And when he walked into the room up there with Mero and them, he was like, yo, you're from the Bronx. You're from Queens. You're from the Bronx, Guys, none of us are from New York.

[Rosenberg]

All right, so what are these? What are we talking about?

[Laura]

So let's go. Let's. Let's share with the audience a small little clip. All right, let's go to a video.

[Ebro]

Nori heard us talking about him. He stepped in the studio. Thank y' all for having me. Now, y', all, y' all triggered Rosenberg this weekend. You was up there with Mero and them, and then Rosenberg jumped on the IG talking about. I love. What was she saying?

[Rosenberg]

So. No, the clip, to be clear, the clip that Hot chose to put out. Okay, And I'll just let everybody know. I hit Mero and Kaz about this too.

[Ebro]

God damn.

[Rosenberg]

No, I did. I text him, cuz I'm like, why Hot? No, because I said hot. Hot. I said hot. I text him and said, damn, Hot's not gonna be happy till we have beef. Because they put up a clip. And the headline in the clip was, nori talks about how Hot 97 finally sounds like New York Again.

[Ebro]

I didn't see that. So.

[Rosenberg]

You didn't see that, so, so. And then in the clip. And then in the clip, Nora, you were there, you sat down with them, and you're like, yo, man, you know what feels good? New York. This sounds like radio. Sounds like New York again. New York sounds like New York. New York sounds like New York. And I. I guess my feeling was. And Ebro is being defensive on your behalf too. I don't think anybody hates Laura, even though she's a big time out of towner as well. All three of us. All three of us. So I guess. So I guess. Guess. I guess the way I felt was it seems like. And it wasn't just you. There are several people who I love have had that conversation where I feel like they're showing love to Mel and them doing a show, which is great. And I'm like, can't they just say congratulations? I'm so happy. Why does it have to sound like it's a stab at replace?

[Ebro]

Go ahead. I. I just. I'm stuck on why is it even about you? You know, how. How many times I used to bother

[Rosenberg]

you because I. I'm hearing you on

[Ebro]

the radio and I'm texting y'. All in the morning I realized I'm kind of like stalking you a little bit.

[Rosenberg]

Like, like I love was great getting

[Laura]

text from you in the morning.

[Ebro]

Cause that's what, that's what I want to hear. I want to hear, I want to be in tune with New York City.

[Rosenberg]

Although I live in Miami, I live

[Ebro]

where I live right in my heart.

[Rosenberg]

So I love hearing. But didn't you feel, and you felt like in spite of the fact that two people from California and one person from D.C. you felt like on our show we were still bringing you what was going on in.

[Ebro]

That was my point. Yes, that was my point. That's what I actually said. But when I hear the, the new show and I hope hopefully I don't have beef with me.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, I'm not taking size. Not at all. Not at all.

[Ebro]

But what I hear is, I do hear that New York accent. I hear that I, I, I could, I could smell a bacon, egg and cheese, you know what I'm saying? I can smell the Timberlands coming through there and it's a certain thing. Like, you know what I mean?

[Rosenberg]

Like, like, like you wouldn't probably never

[Ebro]

wear Timberlands in the summertime, right?

[Rosenberg]

In the summertime. Absolutely not.

[Ebro]

You see.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, that's Whereas like cyphers wear them to the beach. Yeah, I'm not wearing Timberlands.

[Ebro]

That's why that's no, we, yes, that's

[Rosenberg]

a, that's a rite of passage for us. So there you, there you have it.

[Laura]

Here's a little preview of our combo.

[Rosenberg]

We get into a deeper conversation about the whole thing. I think we covered some good ground actually.

[Ebro]

I don't even think most New Yorkers were Timberlands in the summertime. As a made up. I've been here long enough to tell y' all, you're lying. You are all lying. The only people who wear Timberlands in the summer are rappers and safe and people who hang around hip hop. There's regular New Yorkers who ain't wearing and ain't never wore Timberlands in the summer. Which is, goes back to my whole thing of why I'm annoyed it's all made up. You know, they moved the goalpost recently.

[Rosenberg]

They always do. Go ahead.

[Ebro]

Right? Which is if you're born in New York now, you're not born in the real New York.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, so it's even if you're born here, but you're like, your parents came here too late, right? Still doesn't count.

[Ebro]

Or if you born in Brooklyn, you're like, yo, I'm from Brooklyn. Oh, you're not from the real Brooklyn.

[Rosenberg]

Thank you. So you do. So, Ebro, why waste time on this nonsense? Well, that's why I liked your first comment on my post was, why are you wasting your time? It's not that you disagree with all of my sentiments. It's a complete waste of time.

[Ebro]

It's just made up. It's all made up.

[Rosenberg]

The lines are drawn in these random places. But listen, the one part that is true, and we talked about a lot with him, there's no mistaking that because of the styles that the three of us have, our style does not give people who grew up in New York.

[Laura]

And that's true, and that's okay.

[Ebro]

But I don't think we were trying to.

[Rosenberg]

No, but I was all. And I just kept trying to argue. And the reason I don't like people saying things that make it sound otherwise is we still did a very New York show. And I'm very proud of that show.

[Ebro]

You know why? Because we live in the area.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

We're just doing a show about where we live.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro]

That's it now.

[Rosenberg]

But it was.

[Ebro]

It's almost like the 50 Cent narrative, right? Of like, ebro ruined New York hip hop. And I'm like, 50 Cent? No, you ruined New York hip hop. There's people who's gonna pick 50 Cent side. Because he's 50 Cent. And. And he's got 38 million followers on Instagram. Just some guy who shows they're not gonna listen to me. I'm actually the guy you want to hate the most. I'm the media guy. Right. However, I know I'm right. And it's being proven right now.

[Rosenberg]

Now.

[Ebro]

You know why? Because 50 Cent has an opportunity to help New York hip hop. And what's he doing not putting out music?

[Rosenberg]

Well, he put out the one song

[Ebro]

he put out at 90 second song, which is an intro to a TV show.

[Laura]

I mean, here's a song with Max P. Laura.

[Ebro]

That song is old, by the way.

[Rosenberg]

I like it, though.

[Ebro]

I like it too.

[Rosenberg]

He really sounds.

[Ebro]

But once again, still not. Still not jumping in when there's an opportunity to have a great hip hop moment. He's jumping on his.

[Laura]

No, he only cares about himself.

[Rosenberg]

Listen, we love.

[Ebro]

But I'm just pointing it out, just pointing it out. Guys, these guys move the goalposts. Why do you care? And whoever's got the most weight in the conversation, that's where the audience is going to follow. You don't have it. You get your weight up, Rosenberg. And you also got to start arguing on your terms. There's certain things that just ain't worth fighting for.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, you're good at stuff like that.

[Ebro]

Like, all right, y' all got that one. You got that. I'm not from New York.

[Rosenberg]

What you want to do? Really? What? Should have been easy. I so could have easily said, yeah, you got it. I'm 100% not from New York. I'm from Chevy Chase, Maryland. But do me a favor. In the time since I've come here, tell me who was around here, got on the FM airwaves, who put on for New York more than me? I'll wait.

[Ebro]

And you could. And you also didn't need to do that. You could listen, I love the city, so that's why I put on for the city. I love y'. All. Thank you for the support.

[Rosenberg]

That's. That's. That's the more positive way. Let's hit the super chat real quick. Patreon's gonna get a full over an hour with Nori, and we're gonna drop a couple of clips on the YouTube channel of some of the highlights as well. Yvette came through and said, good morning, familia. Hubby and I are huge fots here. Love what y' all are doing. Keep at it. Much love. Happy birthday, Ebro. We tune in live every day and subscribe on the Patreon.

[Ebro]

Wow.

[Rosenberg]

And she came with 20 bucks. Right now, like, two months of Patreon.

[Laura]

Oh, my God. Thank you.

[Rosenberg]

Storytellers. Only NYC says hbd Ebro. I would just like to say I don't know how Ebro feels. I'm sure it's different than me. In my humble opinion, if you ever text me the phrase hbd, you might as well write smd, because if you don't have enough respect to write a full, bleeping happy birthday. Now, if you don't have time for happy birthday, then don't write me at all.

[Laura]

Thank you, whoever that is.

[Rosenberg]

Thank you, though. Storytellers only nyc. JW came through and said happy. Oh, another one.

[Ebro]

You're like flex when HOV texted this is HOV and put HOV in captain and turn into an international incident. Why you capitalizing your name? Who you talking to?

[Rosenberg]

JW says Happy birthday from Janelle. Oh, hey, Janelle in Queens. Another Happy birthday, Ebros. You are a real one for show 100. That's base with the BC. Cel x23 came through. It says HBD Ebro. Yo, guys, they don't charge by the letter, though. I'M just saying. You can say whatever you want.

[Ebro]

Yo, listen, man, let the HBD go. You're not from New York. These are things we could just move on from.

[Rosenberg]

The only time we see see Ack outside is when he's kicking it with Andrew Tate, Sneako Fresh and fit, and all them other terrible people I see. No, that's Lil Deontel. Ed Martinez says, I can't wait for the podcast to start. Rosenberg. Plans are in the works, folks. I got some updates for you guys. Ack. I'm Broadrick says, happy birthday, old man Ebro.

[Ebro]

Thanks to everybody saying happy birthday, Moreno.

[Rosenberg]

The man came through with an hbd.

[Laura]

Moreno.

[Rosenberg]

To answer your questions, I drive a garbage truck. Truck. Now tell us about your cycling journey. I need inspiration. Lol. Enjoy your.

[Ebro]

That'll be a Patreon.

[Rosenberg]

That's a Patreon. Okay. Good morning from the 215Philly. Stand up says blaze73 Grim. BK came through. Yo, Rick came through from Chicago Z. Sorry. 25 lighters came through. Jonathan Castillo. What up? Let's see. Pisces. Pisces unicorn says, happy birthday, my Pisces brother Ebro.

[Ebro]

Shout to all the Pisces.

[Rosenberg]

My birthday was 3 9. And we are aligned on celebrating life. Life. Wishing you the best also, team. I've been tuned in since 2009 and can't wait to see what's next. Always forward, never back.

[Ebro]

Speaking of Pisces, I got this scarf, okay, that was given to me. It's got, like, the Pisces logo on it.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, okay.

[Ebro]

That's fire from his company, Starletta Estraga. Look it up. But if you're like a Zodiac person.

[Rosenberg]

You like it, though? How would you wear this?

[Ebro]

I just put. Well, I keep. I use it as a.

[Rosenberg]

Just.

[Ebro]

It's a sweat rag. Sorry, I'm not. It's not.

[Rosenberg]

Damn.

[Laura]

But you're supposed. You can use this for. Well, not you. I would use it for my hair.

[Ebro]

Yeah, I'm not doing all that. I got a scarf. It had my. It had logos on. I didn't even get it for my birthday. I just happened to have it.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, but for your birthday. Can we just see? You wear that, like, right on top of his head, like an R B singer. Ebro, maybe the hat on tap. Funny culture. You want to go with the Shawnee hat on top? We never seen it.

[Ebro]

Wait, hold up, hold up. No, you can't do it.

[Rosenberg]

Hold on. He's going baldy first. Hold on. Ibrah, for his birthday is gonna go full Shawnee does he even know?

[Laura]

Oh, he's just throwing it on like that.

[Rosenberg]

Look, look, that's tough right there.

[Ebro]

That's hard. Hold up with the Pisces logo.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, happy birthday, bro. Have a great day.

[Ebro]

Y' all got the frames jumped?

[Rosenberg]

No, it looks clean. It looks clean.

[Ebro]

Clean with the jacket.

[Laura]

I need a Scorpio one.

[Rosenberg]

That's fine.

[Ebro]

Starletta estraga.

[Rosenberg]

That's dope, man.

[Ebro]

That's crazy.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, man, get that outro music, bro.

[Ebro]

Oh, we out of here. Yo, we didn't get to the Guru tomorrow, all right?

[Rosenberg]

We had a lot today. We have the Nori stuff.

[Ebro]

Yeah, I'm gonna start coming in every day like this.

[Rosenberg]

It's kind of crazy, bro. It's hard.

[Laura]

Hit that, like, button. Subscribe.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, he's feeling himself.

[Laura]

Look at him.

[Rosenberg]

He looks like an audio. Looks like he's about to drop a video featuring Rock Marcy outside that man. You see him?

[Laura]

Bye, everybody. See y tomorrow.

[Ebro]

Just don't call it a podcast.