59.) Responding to the Chatter + Everyone Knows Criminals (3/19/2026)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura, & Rosenberg Show

Episode 59: Responding to the Chatter + Everyone Knows Criminals
Date: March 19, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This episode focuses on the trio responding to ongoing audience chatter, industry criticism, and recent online controversies involving them and their peers. With their trademark blend of humor, introspective cultural commentary, and candid storytelling, they discuss issues of radio authenticity, gatekeeping, the validity of fan opinions in hip-hop, and the shocking presence of criminals in every walk of life.

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Key Segments & Takeaways

1. Show Identity & Revisiting Old Drama

[00:58–04:18]

• The show opens with playful banter about potentially creating a classic K-pop-style group intro, with Ebro mocking up an elaborate in-unison call.
• Talk turns quickly to "the Kelly Rowland debacle," with Rosenberg reflecting on his past clumsy questioning during an interview and how social media amplified it into a controversy.
  • Quote [03:05] Rosenberg: "Yes. It was a clumsy question that I'm embarrassed to say... I probably had said something similar before. And she might have already found it annoying once."
• Rosenberg expresses that after extensive apologies, he’s moved on, but laughs about the endless online recycling of the incident.
• Laura is annoyed that the controversy persists ("I'm even Annoyed that we're still talking about this, but go ahead." [04:31]), noting the cyclical nature of online chatter.

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2. Responding to Industry Criticism & “Not Being New York Enough”

[06:30–14:06]

• The trio reacts to how other podcasts (notably Joe Budden and Mark Lamont Hill) have recently defended Rosenberg amidst replacement rumors and accusations of being “out of towners” in New York radio.
  • Quote [08:19] Ebro: "It's corny to try to on them while EO E... I like the set. I like the graphics. I like what you got going on over there."
• Ebro explains his own experience as a non-New York native in a leadership role, and the resistance he faced:
  • Quote [09:08] Ebro: "From music director to program director to VP of programming, there was always a 'he ain't from New York.'"
• They highlight the false perception that radio’s job is to serve the music community, pointing out it’s really about driving ratings and ad sales.
  • Quote [10:27] Ebro: "Rappers actually think that radio stations and DJs are in business to support them and their interests, right?... No, they're supposed to make money sales, is supposed to deliver, to advertise."

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3. The Right to Critique Hip-Hop: Who Gets a Voice?

[14:10–21:38]

• Ebro references viral clips where he said, “some of y’all don’t deserve an opinion,” elaborating that expertise and experience count when speaking with certainty about culture and “classic” albums.
  • Quote [16:53] Ebro: "I was like, yo, f***ing customer."
  • Rosenberg and Laura support Ebro’s point that while everyone has a right to an opinion, not all opinions are equally informed.
  • Quote [17:23] Peter: "...not all voices are the exact same."
• Discussion around what makes a hip-hop classic, highlighting the shift from industry consensus (DJs, journalists, artists) to fan-driven social media discourse.
• Ebro and Rosenberg question whether Drake has a universally agreed-upon “classic” album.
  • Quote [21:09] Peter: "There's no way it's in the lexicon as a certified classic if his fan base can't agree for sure what that classic is."

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4. Messy Music Industry Gossip: The Brandy, Mase & Shine Triangle

[25:23–31:12]

• Laura breaks down a recent viral moment on the "It Is What It Is" podcast, where Mase and Shine admit to unknowingly dating Brandy at the same time in the late 90s.
  • Shine describes Brandy as his "dream person," only to learn through a “snitch” mutual friend that Mase was also involved with her.
• Ray J (Brandy’s brother) subsequently responds with a bizarre, threatening video, leading the hosts to joke about his behavior.
  • Quote [29:25] Laura: "There was a response from her brother."
  • Quote [30:30] Ebro: "I don't know why he's grabbing himself on camera like that as if he's gonna sexually assault someone."
• Ebro plans to invite both Ray J and Shine onto the show in upcoming episodes.

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5. “Everyone Knows Criminals”: Reflections on Shocking Crime Stories

[31:43–40:01]

• Rosenberg shares a personal story about two high school acquaintances who were just sentenced to 38 years in federal prison for distributing $92m worth of black market, fake HIV drugs.
  • Quote [32:18] Peter: "Owners and CEO of Wholesale Pharmaceutical Company sentenced for distributing more than $92 million of black market HIV drugs...I went to high school with both these mfers."
• Reflections on knowing seemingly “normal” people with hidden, destructive criminal behavior.
• Ebro notes that his own family includes notorious drug kingpins.
  • Quote [37:09] Ebro: "My family, people in my family were some of America's biggest drug kingpins...We had a lot of drug dealers. Rudolph Henderson. You can look them up. Oakland."
• The broader message: no community, regardless of perceived status or safety, is free from criminality lurking beneath the surface.

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6. Trump Clips & Political Mockery

[40:34–46:46]

• The hosts play and react to recent Donald Trump soundbites, particularly targeting his mockery of Gavin Newsom for having dyslexia and Trump’s penchant for name-calling.
  • Quote [41:19] Ebro (playing clip): "…but not for my president. I don't want, I think a president should, should not have learning disabilities."
  • Quote [43:17] Laura: "What about dementia?"
• Segment closes as the hosts laugh at how political attacks have devolved into childish name games and the lack of seriousness in today’s political discourse.

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7. The Gurus: Relationship Advice & “Helping Friends”

[47:03–54:17]

• Listener letter asks if, after finding stability through years of marriage and therapy, you owe it to help friends through their relationships — or if it’s okay to “tap out.”
  • Rosenberg, Ebro, and Laura conclude it’s totally fair to step away after giving honest advice and encouraging professional help, especially with chronic, unchanging issues.
  • Quote [49:57] Ebro: "So you counsel people. Yeah, but I'm telling them to get therapy."
  • Quote [52:06] Ebro: "With the other one. I done told them to break up multiple times. I'm tired of y'all texting me. You know what y'all need to do? Break up. Y'all kids is older anyway. Break up. Stop texting me."
• Emphasis on honesty and boundaries in friendships, especially around recurring personal drama.

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8. Closing Thoughts: Inside Jokes & Industry Banter

[54:36–57:01]

• Shout-outs to other podcast hosts (Joe Budden, Mark Lamont Hill, Rory & Maul, DJ Akademiks) who covered or referenced Ebro and the show throughout the week.
  • Quote [54:36] Ebro: "Joe Button, you know, Mark Lamont, Hill, Ice Queens flip, the whole team. Rory and Maul. What other shows are covering? Academics. Big coverage from academics this week."
• The group continues to poke fun at themselves, their critics, and the culture of “drama coverage” in hip-hop media.
• The show ends with more Trump-related banter and Ebro reflecting on the self-serving nature of political narratives.
  • Quote [57:01] Ebro: "...it was all to big up himself."

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Notable Quotes

• Rosenberg [03:05]: "Yes. It was a clumsy question that I'm embarrassed to say...I probably had said something similar before."
• Ebro [09:08]: "there was always a 'he ain't from New York.'"
• Peter [21:09]: "There's no way it's in the lexicon as a certified classic if his fan base can't agree for sure what that classic is."
• Ebro [37:09]: "My family, people in my family were some of America's biggest drug kingpins...We had a lot of drug dealers."
• Peter [32:18]: "Owners and CEO of Wholesale Pharmaceutical Company sentenced for distributing more than $92 million of black market HIV drugs...I went to high school with both these mfers."
• Ebro [49:57]: "So you counsel People. Yeah, but I'm telling them to get therapy."
• Laura [52:43]: "It's boring after a while."
• Ebro [54:36]: "Joe Button, you know, Mark Lamont, Hill, Ice Queens flip, the whole team. Rory and Maul. What other shows are covering? Academics. Big coverage from academics this week."

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• Show Banter & Kelly Rowland Debacle: 00:58–04:18
• Industry Critiques & NY Radio Authenticity: 06:30–14:06
• Who Has the Right to Critique Hip-Hop?: 14:10–21:38
• Brandy/Mase/Shine Gossip: 25:23–31:12
• Pharmaceutical Crime Story / Everyone Knows Criminals: 31:43–40:01
• Trump Clips / Political Satire: 40:34–46:46
• Gurus: Relationship Advice: 47:03–54:17
• Outro/Shoutouts: 54:36–End

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Memorable Moments

• The meta-debate about whether the show even needs an official intro, echoing the Destiny’s Child/K-pop formula.
• Ebro and Rosenberg conceding that not all opinions are equal, defending the value of expertise and lived experience in hip-hop.
• Rosenberg’s shockingly personal revelation about knowing pharmaceutical criminals, illustrating that criminality is not confined to the “hood.”
• The team’s collective exasperation with friends who recycle the same relationship drama, advocating clear boundaries and radical honesty.

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Bottom Line

Episode 59 is candid, lively, and wide-ranging, exemplifying The Ebro, Laura, & Rosenberg Show’s blend of cultural critique, insider knowledge, and no-holds-barred repartee. Whether dissecting digital-age hip-hop discourse, recounting stranger-than-fiction crime stories, or weighing the burdens of friendship, the hosts deliver wit, warmth, and pointed cultural commentary that goes far beneath the surface.

Transcript

[Laura Stylez]

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[Ebro Darden]

Just don't call it a podcast. The Eberg. Let's go, man. Let's get it cracking. As we get closer to the weekend. It's Ebro and Laura and Rosenberg. And we are La Ro. Yo, do you guys think yo chat. Do we need like an intro where I go, that's Laura. And then she goes, that's Peter. And then you go, that's Ebro. And I go, we're the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show. We do it all in unison.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm here to respond on behalf of the chat. I know we're not always in lockstep chat, but I think we're in lockstep on this.

[Ebro Darden]

I think they might want it. It feels very K popish.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, no, I think it would be like. It would just be this though. It would be. You go, I'm Ebro. And I'm Laura. And I'm Rosenberg. And then together we go and we're the ELR show. That's it.

[Ebro Darden]

But not all the names.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but like, I'm Beyonce. I'm latavia. I'm latoya. I'm Kelly. And we're Destiny's Child. Oh, my God, that's right. Playing the hits with our boy pmd.

[Ebro Darden]

But Kelly don't like you, so don't play.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I have the drop though. But Beyonce was the main voice on the drop that I have.

[Ebro Darden]

And what it said.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They didn't say all their names. They just went what's up? In unison. What's up? We're Destiny's Child. And then Beyonce jumps in and goes, paying the bills with our boy. PMD from Dusk Till Dawn.

[Ebro Darden]

Peter from Maryland. Pmd.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Or maybe Kelly says that part. Then Beyonce's like, keep it locked.

[Ebro Darden]

Yup. What's going on with your relationship with Kelly Rowland?

[Peter Rosenberg]

We have not spoken.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay. Have you reached out?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I did at the time. I sent multiple apologies through the angles I had, which was nothing. DM or whatever. And that's it. Then I moved on my life.

[Ebro Darden]

Do you maintain in the Kelly Rowland debacle with Rosenberg.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. That this is really a throwback?

[Ebro Darden]

No, it is. Oh, yeah. It caused people maybe to go do some research. Do you maintain that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't have to do that.

[Ebro Darden]

Do you maintain that the question was asked badly, but the premise was fine, and then it was exacerbated by social media?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes. It was a clumsy question that I'm embarrassed to say. I think I probably even asked previously. Like, I probably had asked her a version of it before. That's the part I realized. I think I probably had said something similar before. And she might have already found it annoying once. And then it's like, years pass, I forget. And I know you've done this too.

[Ebro Darden]

Do it all the time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Seven years later, you're doing an interview again. You know, it's like, you know, it'll be interesting. Yeah. Like, well, I've already asked you this. And they remember, like, mother, you've asked me.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm sure it happens every interview I do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. No, you're Ebro. Just hoping to get the person's name right. But.

[Ebro Darden]

Yep.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So it was a clumsy, bad question by me. We were totally cool after it happened. Totally cool. Like, chatty.

[Ebro Darden]

Well. Cause she's a professional. But deep down inside, she could have

[Peter Rosenberg]

been simmering chatty and friendly. Because, listen, I'm not an idiot. A lot of the comments were like, yo, Kelly Rowland was reading Rosenberg and he didn't even know. I'm like, no, I knew. I was kind of like, oh. And then we were really cool. And then when social media made it a thing, I think she just, you know, obviously accepted the praise that people were giving her. And it ended up just being like a dump on Rosenberg Fest. But those happen. And all you can do is say sorry and keep it moving.

[Laura Stylez]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Now there's gonna be a lot on Rosenberg today.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What? Why?

[Ebro Darden]

Because, Laura, he feels vindicated, this guy.

[Laura Stylez]

This is dumb.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I didn't say I feel vindicated.

[Laura Stylez]

I'm even Annoyed that we're still talking about this, but go ahead.

[Ebro Darden]

It's only been a week still.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Laura, we gotta have our new also. I want a little bit of credit. I want a little bit of credit. I actually had a WWEDD W. Wait, hang on.

[Ebro Darden]

W, E, D, W. Say it again. WW EDD what would. Ebro

[Laura Stylez]

do?

[Ebro Darden]

Didn't do. I don't know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What's your last name?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh. What would Ebro Darden do?

[Laura Stylez]

I didn't think of the Darden.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You are a word I'm not allowed to use.

[Ebro Darden]

No, go ahead.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm not allowed.

[Ebro Darden]

An idiot. No.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay, there you go. I don't wanna say moron. And send Doc.

[Ebro Darden]

Wait, wait, wait. You don't wanna do name calling?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't wanna do name calling.

[Laura Stylez]

Go ahead.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And by that, I mean I wasn't really ever that upset by the whole thing. I thought it was a good conversation as we're building a new thing.

[Ebro Darden]

That's my guy, right? Listen, that's why he makes the big bucks right there. Nobody really gave up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, but I made it a whole day, and I didn't even want to make it about anyone else. I switched the conversation for me. Anything about over there to about me and being a New Yorker. And that conversation, so. But the Rosenthals, the great. It's the real guys. Eric and Jeff was popping two Jews, three black dudes. They asked, by the way, they're from New York. They are from New York. They have a live show coming up soon. They're like, yo, can we come by?

[Ebro Darden]

Absolutely.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I was like, 100%. You're going to have to bring chairs and microphones for you guys. And the locks.

[Ebro Darden]

Wait, how many people?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's five people.

[Laura Stylez]

That's a lot.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, we can't host five.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I said, not yet, but soon we'll figure out. We got plans.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, no, no. You. So chat subscribers, everybody. What we'll do is we'll have all of them on two microphones, five people on one side of the room, and then we're over here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's not a great look, but let's try it anyway.

[Ebro Darden]

Let's see what was, you know, I mean, push the studio to the limit.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We could also do, like, a couple of them in person. A couple people on tv.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Anyways, they hit me up. Shouts to those guys. The podcast is great. And they said, oh, Joe Budden and Mark Lamont Hill were defending you today in your conversation.

[Ebro Darden]

Defending you, Rosenberg.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, let's hear it.

[Ebro Darden]

Just got exiled from here and now you just Took the slot over, and now you're sitting here saying, oh, it feels good to hear New York again. So what you're trying to say was, in New York when I was here, you've been in New York. There's no way for that to not look like that. It's still a dig. Yo. Sorry. It's still a dig. No matter how you look at it. Even if it wasn't intended, that's a dig. It's not your first time in New York in 15 years. So you're speaking to the Times. You've been in New York, and it ain't sound like New York. Go ahead. Does this conversation happen if Rosenberg still at high? Like, if. No, and I don't, obviously, in the sense of, like, if he had said, like, I wish New York radio sounded like new. In other words, does Rosemary ignore this if they're not repositioning for the new. With the new gig and, you know, with the new platform and all this stuff they're doing, which I like, you know, is this also, like, seize this moment. Was it overreaction for them? I don't think so. I think. I think he took it as a dig and was rightful. What did we say when they.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, Mark is correct. I was doing it because of the new gig I was doing. Mark knows me well. It was promo. Appeared to be hiring a bunch of people from out of town to replace Rosenberg and them on the radio show. What was the general consensus? Fight.

[Ebro Darden]

We ain't seen them two Atlanta comedians, where they was from. We ain't seen them. Atlanta, they all like Saturdays. Do y' all notice real quick that there's a lot of. Now that Ebro numbers off the radio, a lot of people are, like, on them a little bit. Yeah, it was. It wasn't on them before when it was. I mean, I've seen it, but it's a lot more now that's quiet. They were gatekeepers and stuff. They call EO gatekeeper and stuff like that. I don't know. You guys know the logistics and ins and outs of the radio.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just.

[Ebro Darden]

It's kind of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're all doing great, so I, I, I.

[Ebro Darden]

It's corny to try to on them while EO E. I like the changes you making to your show in real time. I like the set. I like the graphics. I like the topics. I like what you got going on over there.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's a great show.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to Ebro, Peter and. And. And. And Lore.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. So look. Told you guys, never have. You never Doubted me. I knew you never doubted me. N Shouts to. Shouts to Joe and Squad.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, it was good stuff.

[Laura Stylez]

Especially Mark Lamont Hill.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He always holds it down for us.

[Laura Stylez]

Supportive of us.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and I gotta say, for Queen's Flip too. Yeah, no, People was tight. Listen, man, everybody wants their song to get play. People never liked me in that position from the day I walked in the door.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It from md you mean from music

[Ebro Darden]

director to program director to VP of programming, there was always a he ain't from New York.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, and then. And then you're on the.

[Ebro Darden]

And by the way, this is how ridiculous it is. As if it didn't behoove me to do what's best for the audience tuned in so the ratings could be great.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but you know, that's not how people view those things.

[Ebro Darden]

But that's because they're idiots.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, well, that's not.

[Ebro Darden]

They're moron.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no, no. It's because historically, radio does annoying stuff sometimes. Plays one record a million times.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, no, no. For sure. All those things. But no, but I'm just talking about making sure that the listeners tune in. If what we were doing at HOT wasn't great for all those years, I would have been out the door way faster, bro.

[Laura Stylez]

Anytime anybody asks me that, I always say this. Let's picture this, right? You're in your car, you listen to your favorite song, you're jamming, and then something comes on that you don't know. What are you going to do?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Change the station?

[Laura Stylez]

Hello.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So it's always hard.

[Laura Stylez]

That's why it's a gamble.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But. But the funny part is this.

[Ebro Darden]

And you're just speaking of new music. I'm talking about just embracing the city and doing all those things and playing the records that the city is out in the clubs partying to see. Because the music community, right, rappers actually think that radio stations and DJs are in business to support them and their interests, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're supposed. They will say that like, yo, you're in. Yo, but you're Hot 97. You're supposed to blah, blah. It's like, no, they're supposed to make money sales, is supposed to deliver, to advertise.

[Ebro Darden]

Hello, we're in business to get ratings and sell advertising.

[Laura Stylez]

And then you have Rosenberg, who dedicated a complete show to it that none

[Ebro Darden]

of y' all supported.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Not really. That was. The crazy thing is like, I kind of get you guys hating Ebro because he was the boss and seen as the gatekeeper. Yeah, the me part, it's just people saying they don't like how I look and sound in my name because I never or I had an opinion. You heard one day that you're white.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, you're white. And you shouldn't even have an opinion on black music or black artists or in black spaces. Well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And a lot of people don't remember this, and I'll give Ebro credit for it, too, for discovering me in Washington. Before me, respectfully, there wasn't another me. There wasn't another, like. In fact, even to this day, there's not a lot of super, like, white guy who does hip hop stuff and not only plays the records quietly, but is like, no, I have really strong opinions about it. And sometimes they're gonna annoy people, but sometimes they're really informed and kind of useful. That didn't exist.

[Ebro Darden]

There was a Stretch Armstrong as a dj.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He didn't talk like that.

[Ebro Darden]

Not a talker. Bobby Condors. Not a talker. Not opinionated. And then the guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Legends.

[Ebro Darden]

Absolutely legends. But by the way. By the way. And I want to. This is a challenge to all of y' all out there. The white guys that y' all watch the most, spend the most time with and talk about the most, they embraced the most lowest common denominator garbage of the culture.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Correct.

[Ebro Darden]

But y' all cool with them. But the guy who wants to embrace intelligence, lyricism, craftsmanship, artistry, you got a problem with him?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The guy who's most known for championing Kendrick Lamar from the very beginning. The first champion of Kendrick Lamar on a big stage.

[Ebro Darden]

See, but this is where you go too far. I had already bigged you up. Now you're a big ass.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, you're right.

[Ebro Darden]

This is why.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, you did good. That was good. That's enough. But it's true. They all.

[Laura Stylez]

Yeah, but the majority.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Laura Stylez]

And they love to regurgitate talking points that the Internet does like. The same ish with Ebro program director, mind you, he hasn't been there in a decade. In those seats.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right.

[Laura Stylez]

The same thing. You don't. What pisses me off the most. You guys have never done anything for our community.

[Ebro Darden]

What?

[Peter Rosenberg]

We're vultures. All we're doing is what? Eating? We're eating.

[Ebro Darden]

We're just.

[Laura Stylez]

Ebro brought acs, bought ACS with his own money for New York City listeners when our own damn station wouldn't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And God forbid you win one now. You might not get it. And when I say might, I mean definitely.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I think the other piece is more an indictment of who. And by the way, this is all of us, who we are culturally, that we are always consumed. The music we like, the stuff we like to watch, a lot of it is garbage. The food we eat, we consume. A lot of garbage. We do.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And when you try to force feed people some vegetables, you're not the most popular person.

[Ebro Darden]

You're not.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Aiden Ross is the most popular. Aiden Ross is like the most influential white dude to ever sort of quote, unquote, be near hip hop. Because he's not a hip hop head, but who uses hip hop for his game, is as hot as can be. No knowledge, no love, no care, no interest in any of it. Just a means to an end, to get rich. And y' all want to talk about it all day long. Shouts to Rory, by the way, who I didn't mention this conversation, but Rory, of course, who I love, who has respect for the culture and treats me like an og, like he understands. So I came along the nuances of it.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, shout out to Rory and Ma.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, Rory and Ma. We're talking about you this week too.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, yeah, because I.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What'd you do?

[Laura Stylez]

What happened?

[Ebro Darden]

So I get fed up sometimes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, we see that. And piece of paper on the wall. You don't mind?

[Ebro Darden]

You know what? Let's just watch the clip. Here's one of you, Ebro. This might be one of the wildest clips I've seen this month. Some of y' all don't deserve a opinion because you haven't been doing this professionally. What are you doing consuming, playing and critiquing hip hop as your life? You're just a fan. I think that people talk with a certain level of certainty. They don't have no idea what the fuck they talking about. And in that regard, I gotta agree with him. Because I'm a rapper, I've been on the road, I'm a songwriter, I'm friends with these artists. I know what happened in the studio, why this song didn't come out, et cetera. You have people that, respectfully, you work at FedEx, you go get your hair cut in the barbershop and you talk with this level of certainty about things you have no idea about. Most people are driving their kids to school, going to and from work, and are there to just listen to the music and have every right to critique the entire thing. For sure. I'm not saying Ebro was wrong. It was just in the way he said it was such entitlement where he doesn't realize we are the least important part of this entire process. We as in who? The critiquers? The Media people, the commenters that are on these microphones, we are the least important out of this whole process. Matter of fact, Ebro was more important when he was a program director and was able to play certain records for artists. The two most important people in this group is the artist number one and then the consumer that's listening to it and buying it. Right. Because a lot of times people in front of microphones will start listening to records they'd never listen to. They're only doing it to critique. Right. They're not a consumer. Well, and shout to Rory on that. Because the fans are important and the artists are important.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I agree with them that they're the most important.

[Ebro Darden]

They are the most important in a world. And I'm just put this out there in a world where there are one hundred and something thousand songs coming out every day.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. Uploaded every day to the streamers.

[Ebro Darden]

Those of us who are talking about music are helping the people who don't have time to find it. Find it. But on that point, if all I was doing was critiquing songs and talking about it, there is a part of that conversation, for better or for worse, that is helping the audience watching right now. Go, let me go listen for myself. I never even heard that was out. Oh, hey, what are they talking about? So not as important as the artist.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nah. But you're just. You're just fine. More than you even need to, though, because your point remains regardless. The main point you made was, was that people speak with a matter of certainty that they need to hear my voice. And they never played records. They never showed any more involvement than being kind of a casual. Y' all are. You just used a mean word. You were like.

[Ebro Darden]

Would you say, oh, I said, you're cut. Well, they the real full clip. I was like, yo, fucking customer.

[Peter Rosenberg]

By the way, that was hard for Apple.

[Ebro Darden]

You were kind of.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That was kind of hard for Apple fan.

[Ebro Darden]

I kind of go, you guys should watch rap live for.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I watched my Listen.

[Laura Stylez]

You definitely gotten spicier, though.

[Ebro Darden]

Cause it was, you know, I have my days. I have my days.

[Laura Stylez]

I just like to say it was mild.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just like to say what my wife and manager say to me in this era that I'm currently living in. Chill, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, keep everything copacetic right now. I got news for you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Keep it clean.

[Ebro Darden]

If I'm doing that on music, we're in a good space.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Facts.

[Ebro Darden]

That's just about music, right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's all you talk about. There's music. But your point is still correct. I Don't. And I think Rory knows that it was a good, provocative conversation. But the fact is everyone has a right to an opinion. But. But, like, listen, we're not different than any other people who love music, except for the fact that we worked our asses off and made music our life in order to get to a point where we could have an opportunity to speak into a microphone and share our opinions that required work and commitment and love. And now you could literally be like, hey, have you heard this new album? Oh, that's pretty cool. Let me tell the whole world about my opinion. That's not the same thing. Not all voices are the exact same.

[Ebro Darden]

I think also, and you guys notice, most people also don't know that some of my lifelong friends are some of the most, well, you know, well regarded, highly regarded, and well renowned songwriters and producers in the hip hop and R B space of all time.

[Laura Stylez]

Yeah, I don't think people know that.

[Ebro Darden]

People don't know that. So I've been in these rooms. I know how the records get made. I know what sound, what vibrations, what frequencies go with what. It's just not my profession. I. I don't. That's not what I pursued, but I know how it happens. Some of the greatest. Right. And that's why I have relationships with these people, because they know. I speak from a place of really knowing not just what the charts are. Right. But how the actual record got made, from the musicians to the songwriting to the mixing to the engineering. Right. Like, they know. And I've had these conversations privately with them, but those conversations aren't what I have in public. So most of my conversations are critiquing, gossipy, arguing about today's topics.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. Well, because that's not what your show is. You could host a show.

[Ebro Darden]

Absolutely.

[Peter Rosenberg]

If you wanted to. Is really nerdy about, like, music making with artists.

[Ebro Darden]

But. But also I. That another piece of that convo that I want to make sure people understand is that was about hip hop classic albums. So that was extrapolated from a larger convo about hip hop classic albums because of the Drake combo. Right. And the reason that was happening, and I said that in the Drake convo, was specifically for a lot of fans out there. Once again, we've been covering this for multiple weeks who are just fans of an artist. You're not fans of the culture. You haven't really been studying hip hop. You haven't really been listening to it that long. You don't have a macro view or kind of like a historical understanding of the ins and Outs of why certain things happen or whatever. By the way, fine, as a fan, but when we start talking about classic hip hop albums, those things were determined by journalists, DJs, producers, other MCs, executives at labels. There wasn't social media. When we all said Illmatic was a classic album, that wasn't like a collective decision amongst people commenting on. That was done by people who are actually in this.

[Laura Stylez]

And. And what got the conversation going was Ms. Info's five mic ratings.

[Ebro Darden]

A journalist.

[Laura Stylez]

A journalist.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, who worked hard to get that opportunity to write about it. And back to that, to put a bow on it. The Drake music conversation is where this started.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And that was one thing I saw in the comments is they were like, you guys just don't know Drake's classic is blank. And then the next person said, drake's classic is blank. I'm like, no, y' all are still missing it. You don't.

[Ebro Darden]

Y' all don't even know what. What is y' all saying?

[Peter Rosenberg]

There's no way it's in the lexicon as a certified classic. If his fan base can't agree for sure what that classic is. These records we're talking about, they're not all my favorite albums, but the culture decided overall these are considered, then there are other ones. Right? Like, for example, I could. Me and Ebro might agree. I might tell you, yo, Diamond D's Stunts, Blunts and hip hop is a classic.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And it is to me.

[Ebro Darden]

It's to me also.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But I don't.

[Ebro Darden]

I wish I could play Day in the Life of Three black Men.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, man. But I don't know that it's in the lexicon as agreed upon by everyone because it was a niche album for a certain kind of fan. But there are some records that just go beyond that. Your low end theories, your Midnight Marauders, your equimanized, they're just there.

[Ebro Darden]

So now you understand why I was talking greasy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yes, it knows. Well deserved. I supported the greasiness because if you

[Ebro Darden]

just look at that clip, you think I'm just lambasting fans of hip hop. No, this was about deciding what hip hop classics were.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is it. I think it's lamb based. And I always say lambast. I'm pretty sure it's lamb based. It is lamb based.

[Ebro Darden]

Cause you baste the lamb. You baste the lamb.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know, but like basting like a. I think it could be. But Laura, I remind real quick.

[Ebro Darden]

Congratulations. I played.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I forgot to mention this to you guys. It's gonna mess you guys up when you do the rundown. I have a lowdown. I have a lowdown story. A story of criminality related to my own.

[Ebro Darden]

Whoa, world.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's when I read y' all this story.

[Ebro Darden]

Is it breaking news? Because, you know, I have a new breaking news thing I'm really excited to play.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's hear it.

[Ebro Darden]

Here we go.

[Laura Stylez]

But don't do it yet.

[Ebro Darden]

Groovy old school tv. You don't like that?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I've got breaking news, folks.

[Ebro Darden]

How's it going?

[Laura Stylez]

I like it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's like a little bit of a bop. It's like I kind of am. Like, who has breaking news? Do you?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, do your tease again. Do your tease again. Tell us what?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Coming up in the lowdown, Peter Rosenberg gets into a story of criminality, mischief and outright negligence that harmed many. A price is being paid. You'll find out by who and for how long in the lowdown. I don't know if that's what you.

[Ebro Darden]

I was looking for an out. I was trying to figure out. I saw a hat.

[Laura Stylez]

That damn harp.

[Ebro Darden]

No, those chimes come through on clothes. Don't play with those chimes. You know what I mean? Ladies and gentlemen, we need the El army to activate. Today, Just Thrive has landed on the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show. Just Thrive probiotics. Most products never make it to your gut alive. And that's why they don't work now, Laura.

[Laura Stylez]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

Talk to them about these probiotics.

[Laura Stylez]

Let me tell you, change my life. You know, my stomach's always been all over the place. The girl makes fun of me constantly. Rosenberg, you're a bit nicer.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, but it is annoying.

[Laura Stylez]

But it's a thing. And when I started taking probiotics, boom. I felt like everything was balanced in there. So.

[Ebro Darden]

So I got some questions.

[Laura Stylez]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. Bubble guts often. No.

[Laura Stylez]

Yes, sometimes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Bubble guts. Bubble, bubble, bubble guts.

[Laura Stylez]

Sometimes.

[Ebro Darden]

All right. Our indigestion, like burping and this business,

[Peter Rosenberg]

like acid reflux, general queasiness, everything is a.

[Laura Stylez]

Some. Sometimes. Sometimes. But I'm just telling you that it all changed when I started taking probiotics. And you know what I love about Just Thrive?

[Ebro Darden]

No.

[Laura Stylez]

There's a lot of people who can't take pills, so they have gummies.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Laura Stylez]

Boom.

[Peter Rosenberg]

How about this? How about this? I am taking the challenge. There's a challenge going on.

[Ebro Darden]

Here we go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Try Just thrive probiotics for 90 days risk free and save 20% on your first order with the code ELR I like it. See the difference for yourself or get A full product refund, no questions asked. And, guys, guess what? I'm doing the challenge with you. Cause I've been having my moments of, like, you know, I'm in my mid-40s. Things get a little harder to digest, so I'm gonna do it with everybody.

[Ebro Darden]

So I already do gummies in the morning, so I'm add this to my rotation. And my wife at home, she's like, Laura. Where everything. Literally every day, everything. My stomach. Maybe I shouldn't have. It's. I don't even know how they live like that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, listen, what Jaz needs to do is take the 90 day Just Thrive Probiotic Challenge today at JustThriveHealth.com ELR that's JustThriveHealth.com ELRs be the best you can with just Thrive.

[Ebro Darden]

Let's get to the rundown. Laura got the rundown. Turn that up. Screens on glow when she pulls up. Headlines heavy, but we still caught up. Light still flashing. We don't slow up.

[Laura Stylez]

All right, well, this got a little messy, guys. So a couple days ago, you know, in the it is what it is podcast with Cameron and Mace, okay, there was an episode where Shine was a guest, and they started talking about a love triangle that they once had back in the day. Mace and Shine.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, that.

[Laura Stylez]

They didn't know they were dating the same person. All right, check this out.

[Ebro Darden]

Set off. Yeah. What happened with Brandy and everything? Let's just do it. Listen. Let's do it. Who's dealing with Brandi? Okay, let me switch my glasses. You know what happened? There was this. You was dating Brandy at one time or y' all was just. How'd it go? I was special. You know, he came in and wanted to be special, so, yo, I had to let him be special. I mean, no lies told. He was Shaq, okay? He was the champion. He was the mvp. I was Kobe. No pun intended. Cause they said Kobe was a special friend of Brandy's as well. But no pun intended, but I was coming out of high school on the championship team, and he was the superstar of the team. But I definitely did want to be special. I definitely. But I had no idea. So what happened is we had a mutual friend who was a snitch, okay? So I think he know who it is. I'm not gonna expose him, but. So I was so excited because this is my dream person, right? Talk about Brandi. Brandi. Poor kid. Brooklyn watching mtv, watching Moesha, watching her on bet. And, you know, as a dream, I'm like, man, if I Ever. If she. If she was the no shot. I got that right. So when I came up, she was in the crosshairs. Like, you know, I was sniping, right? And. Yeah, I had no idea, though, because he was. He was special, right? So he was running that. That playbook so discreetly, so quietly. I had no idea. Yeah, he's sneaky. He was an ultra sniper. But I was so excited. So I kept telling one of our mutual friends, and he was snitching me out, and then. So Brandy was like, yo, who you told you hit?

[Laura Stylez]

Oh, man.

[Ebro Darden]

Good old story.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Chat chat, chatty chat. Brandy was sitting around minding her business yesterday, and all of a sudden, chitty chat, chat, chat, chat. But that was interesting.

[Laura Stylez]

All this chitty chat from 1998, all of a sudden.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, listen, Mace was sitting on top of the world. You know what I'm saying?

[Ebro Darden]

Don't ever forget. He was. Mace was popping. Sean had his moment. He didn't know. Listen, that's. But by the way, that story right there, it's interesting because it's a music business, right? It's entertainment. There's a thousand people watching right now that have, like, you know, met a girl or something and found out that they was dating the homie or used to date the homie or whatever. That's like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You didn't even catch my reference, though, did you?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, what was it again? Tell me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Mace was sitting on top of the world. He was.

[Ebro Darden]

We got it. You did get it. On top of the world.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And Mace, he was on the record.

[Ebro Darden]

He was on the song.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I'm guessing that's where they. You know.

[Ebro Darden]

Anyway, maybe that was why he was on the song.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Possible because she was saying, I hit you with the sound that the world can't. You know, Mace was in his bag back then. Late. Everyone loved it. Yo, look, Mace had a moment.

[Laura Stylez]

I have more. Oh, I have more.

[Ebro Darden]

Wow.

[Laura Stylez]

Yeah. And this. It's getting low down. Ish. I'm thinking we should go there and then you can.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, is this a rare double lowdown? Hey, now. Yeah.

[Laura Stylez]

Because things got messy with that. Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, wow.

[Laura Stylez]

There's a response.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, no. I was about to. To shout out Brandi, too. That's the homie.

[Laura Stylez]

Just wait, my friend.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, yo, people chat. Things happen, man. Everybody got pads.

[Laura Stylez]

Just wait, my friend. Because there was a response from her brother.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, of course there was. All three of y' all is like the Three Stooges, and y' all looking real attractive. So when I see y', all, y' all Better not have that skirt on. Wait, what? Y' all better pull y' all panties up. You know what I'm saying? For real. I don't know what you're saying. I see y'. All. I know where y' all at. Three Stooges. I know where y' all at. Y' all be slipping too. In Vegas, walking around the wind, acting like y' all winning. Get some money and have to do 5,000 shows.

[Laura Stylez]

It was more, but I think. Yeah, we just. It just.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't.

[Ebro Darden]

Wait, hang on. Why the three don't even spend time on it? So Ray J. Yo, Ray J. We need to have Ray J on the show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What? You sure?

[Ebro Darden]

Chat. Should we have Ray J on the show? Because I gotta ask him about the eyes bleeding. We don't talked about it multiple times. Trolling. Now he's doing this whole skit. We might have to just have motion.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I just want to know how you went from. Y' all look like the Three Stooges, so you need to pull your skirts up.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I don't know why you're spending time on that. It doesn't make any sense. And I don't know why he's grabbing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He knows the Three Stooges or I

[Ebro Darden]

don't know why he's grabbing himself on camera like that as if he's gonna sexually assault someone.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's the whole thing was a set up for sexual assault.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. And I don't even know why he was doing that. I don't know. That's why I said I need to have more. I don't know what is happening, by the way.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Ray J needs to chill. He just. I would show.

[Ebro Darden]

I really don't know what is happening.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, no.

[Ebro Darden]

Chill or not chill. Why?

[Peter Rosenberg]

I would say chill.

[Ebro Darden]

Why are you threatening sexual assault and on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

On Camp and. And Maze. I don't want to do it. Their names are Killa and Murder. Folks don't do it. I know, but I would want to

[Ebro Darden]

know why I got to sexual assault and pulling up skirts.

[Laura Stylez]

So, yeah, that's where we're at right now, guys.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I. By the way, I can't describe what Shines vibe is to me like, I love aging Shine. Like politician, Jewish, older Shine. He like. I love the vibe. I can't quite pinpoint what it is.

[Ebro Darden]

It's like, well, he's gonna come on the show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We're having Shine on soon.

[Ebro Darden]

Shine's on the show he's doing because he's doing an anniversary show. Is it 20 years? 20 years. First album at King's theater.

[Laura Stylez]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right, great. I look forward to it.

[Ebro Darden]

So he'll be on the show, so you can ask him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I look forward to this.

[Ebro Darden]

Now, Rosenberg, you got a low down also.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I got a low down, folks, I hadn't mentioned this to you, but it's

[Ebro Darden]

time for the low down with Laura Sty.

[Peter Rosenberg]

This came out earlier this week. Owners and CEO of Wholesale Pharmaceutical Company sentenced for distributing more than $92 million of black market HIV drugs. I just want you guys to think about how bad this is.

[Ebro Darden]

Say that again. Say that.

[Laura Stylez]

Okay, say it again.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You're two owners of a pharmaceutical wholesale company were sentenced Friday to a total of three 38 years in prison for orchestrating a complex nationwide drug diversion scheme that harmed vulnerable HIV positive patients, placed countless others at risk and corrupted the supply chain for prescription drugs in the United States. Patrick and Charles Boyd. Charlie did not just commit fraud and cost taxpayers millions of dollars. They preyed upon some of the most vulnerable members of our society. HIV patients who depend on life saving treatments to manage their disease. That's assistant attorney general A. Tyson Duva of the justice department's criminal division. Fraud schemes like this undermine the integrity of our supply chain for necessary prescription drugs. Guys, they were taking fake drugs, wrong drugs and expired drugs, repurposing them as HIV drugs and selling them to pharmacies to the tune of $92 million. And I went to high school with both these mfers partied at their house. It says Patrick and Charles of Easton, Maryland. They ain't from Easton, Maryland. They are from Montgomery County.

[Laura Stylez]

Disgusting. You know, this affects babies to full adults.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They are yo. And here's it gave me insight.

[Ebro Darden]

So you went to school with some criminal now?

[Peter Rosenberg]

So it gave me insight about who becomes this kind of person.

[Ebro Darden]

Because Pat, you know them from young.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah. And Pat and Charlie were both. It's very. I want to see if I can get you guys to understand this, but I'm not sure I can convey it. Well, you ever have anyone you partied with in high school that you had like good moments with them? And because they were popular and because they're on the football team and they party with everybody. A lot of people knew them. You go to a party at their house. But on like a. On like a deeper level, you just didn't f. With them. Like they were in. They were around. There was no tons of people they were around. And I've been to their house on multiple occasions and they now they've been to my. Well, not Charlie, but Pat's definitely been to my house a couple of times.

[Ebro Darden]

And we had twins as well.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, they were three years apart, actually, because Charlie was two years younger than me and Pat's a year older than me. Pat dated one of my close friends when she broke up with my best friend, one of my best best friends. And we were all like, oh, God, you're dating him. Like, he's fine, but he's a douche. Like, what are you doing? He's like, they were always. They weren't rich, but they were those white boys who had like, you know, black friends on the football team. But then I'd hear them being racist around other people, but the black kids come to their house and party or. But then I'd see them being racist with their white boyfriends. You know what I mean? Like, they were that kind of people. Neither of them the sharpest tool in the shed ever. Neither of them got good grades. Neither of them were particularly smart. It's just fascinating that they would go on to be this level of criminal. Like, this is some of the worst criminal ish. I've ever heard of. What's more immoral than this?

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, immoral maybe, but not the worst criminal issue you ever heard of. I mean, it's on the level.

[Peter Rosenberg]

They're on the level, though. These kind of people end up in the current administration, right? Like, this is on the level.

[Laura Stylez]

This got a lot of people killed. I'm sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I'm sure people died, if not like at that moment where they couldn't be charged with murder, but it could have led to other health complications. One person alleged in the article. One person testified, I should say that because of being on the wrong drug, they were trying to get HIV medicine. And instead they were on some sort of psycho tropic drug.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, no.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And ended up completely unconscious for 24 hours. Like they were giving people the wrong drugs who were sick, man.

[Laura Stylez]

Yes.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like HIV is now a drug. An illness that thank God you people you can live with if you're on the right medicine. And they were mess.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, also too. You got a fat. Yeah, it's low. It's. It's. It's. It's degenerate behavior and it's terrible. It's very bad. You know anyone who committed worse crime, like murder, rape? I don't know anybody committed rape, but

[Peter Rosenberg]

murder, you know murder. You know a murder?

[Ebro Darden]

Yes, for sure.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I don't know this. I need to know the murder story. This could be worse because this is discriminate. I'm just gonna let people maybe die.

[Laura Stylez]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Is this Worse than selling personal beef.

[Laura Stylez]

I'm with you.

[Ebro Darden]

No, but is this worse than selling drugs that you know is killing a whole community?

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's similar.

[Laura Stylez]

It's up there, but this is very specific to people who are already suffering.

[Ebro Darden]

My family, people in my family were some of America's biggest drug kingpins.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, listen, that's. That's a big drug kingpin. Yes, we're in the same conversation. Not like a random dude, street hand to hand, you know what I'm saying? But this.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. And if you don't believe me, shout out to my family. I love my family, everybody. But we had a lot of drug dealers. Rudolph Henderson.

[Laura Stylez]

Too much.

[Ebro Darden]

You can look them up. Oakland.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Like bad stuff.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, he was selling crack in the 80s.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

You know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, listen, listen. All bad. It's all really bad. I just. I couldn't. I couldn't believe. And I also recently found out there's another kid who I went to middle school with, he didn't go to our high school, who ended up 20 years after the fact. This guy, Eugene Glegor, they ended up convicting him 20 years after the fact for killing his ex girlfriend's mother.

[Ebro Darden]

His ex girlfriend.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So in his 20s, when I already didn't know him, but in his 20s, he murdered his girlfriend's mother. No one knew how the lady was killed. And then 20 years later, evidence came out and they found. It's just crazy when you found out

[Ebro Darden]

the people you knew, you were kids with guys. Everybody knows criminals. I don't care what your tax bracket is. I don't care what neighborhood you live in. I don't care if you think you're living in some elegant suburbia, wherever the hell you are. There's some criminality taking place for sure at some level somewhere that's like the guy, you know, the, the. Remember the guy that killed the seven women in Long Island. You know that story about the beat? What is it? Those trials are about to start here in New York.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's just starting.

[Ebro Darden]

That's. The trials are just starting. Right.

[Laura Stylez]

That's how long it takes.

[Ebro Darden]

That's how long it takes to get going. And you know, everybody. You know when that happened, remember? Oh, it just looked like a normal family. Everybody runs. I can't believe now your man was murdering people and burying them in the beach. So I'm not. You're shocked because you know, people who did something crazy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's the level of evil that is.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I think it's.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's like if they were. You know what I'm saying it's the level of people who are already sick. You mess with their medicine.

[Ebro Darden]

That wasn't what they were thinking about. That's not what they were thinking.

[Laura Stylez]

But that's the problem.

[Ebro Darden]

That's the problem they weren't thinking about. So what do you think?

[Peter Rosenberg]

The logic? They were thinking we were mixing around some drugs.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, no. We're selling things that aren't being sold so that we can make money.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Right. Not thinking at the end it's gonna end up in someone's medicine cabinet.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, they probably at some point knew that, but at the end of the day, they were like, yo, we got a scam going, yo. There's these expired drugs and things that are just not being used. We repackage them, bottle them, and sell them to the pharmacy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You have a button over there.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, this one. Congratulations.

[Peter Rosenberg]

My friend was telling me, because it's fed time, it's minimal. It's guaranteed 75%. They're in jail until their 60s, guaranteed. There's no. No getting out.

[Ebro Darden]

And whatever money they made, they got to pay it back.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, you're not keeping the money from the.

[Ebro Darden]

No. Some people try to stack. I mean, that's the play, right? They're gonna try to stash some money with somebody. Couple million over here, a couple million over there gifted to somebody. Somebody stashes somewhere in wherever and just wait. Invested by an asset. Do something.

[Laura Stylez]

When they start really investigating anyone who took the drug from that pharmacy that received it from this person who potentially got affected by. You know what I mean? All of that's going to start coming out crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

Super chat was popping, you know what I'm saying? And also to everybody out there watching this, make sure you hit the hype button after the show's over. If you're watching this later on, whenever you're tuned in, hit the hype button. King Louie says it does nothing, but I know we were on some sort of chart because y' all hit the hype button so much. So that's something.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Now, Ebro, we. I want to make sure we don't get through today without you playing some of the Trump clips we haven't gotten to this week.

[Ebro Darden]

Do we have those? Rah. Trump talking Cuba and Trump talking about some dude who had some turmo, some senator who was about to die.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let's see. You want to do Cuba first?

[Ebro Darden]

Do. I don't. I don't know if Rasan has him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, I thought you had it on the sheet.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I don't know if it's on the sheet. I said I would like to do it, but nobody, Nothing happened after that. That's why I wasn't going to go.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you, I thought you meant it, that it was already there and we hadn't got to it yet, got

[Ebro Darden]

sent over or put on the sheet. So he may not have it. I know it was put in the chats. Lou put it in the chat. I'll go back and re rehash it for you.

[Peter Rosenberg]

But we don't have that there. Oh, you have, you have. All right, we have this. How about just Trump being an a hole? Let's go to 14.

[Ebro Darden]

Gavin Newscom has admitted that he is a. That he has learning disabilities. Honestly, I'm all for people with learning disabilities, but not for my president. I don't want, I think a president should, should not have learning disabilities. Okay. And I know it's highly controversial to say such a horrible thing. The President of the United States, Gavin Newscomb, admitted that he has learning disabilities, dyslexia. Everything about him is dumb.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You couldn't even hold it. You couldn't even hold it.

[Ebro Darden]

Everything about him is dumb. Yo, I can't, I, I can't just watch Trump clips all the time and actually take him serious. No, and I know you enjoy it because it still triggers you sometimes. You, you want some things. I'm only watching for comedy now. Like, I, I. The people who are out on him and know that he's a bad guy, I think most of them are out. There's some people still working on that with their parents and all of the stupid. I see some podcasters calling their moms, their older moms wearing MAGA hats, and they're, like, telling them the actual news versus what their mom believes and having, like, these debates. Fine. Work on it with your family.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Cool.

[Ebro Darden]

We'll see. We'll see when you get here. But other than that, it's all just comedy and unseriousness. Right. Even the the Proof of life videos with Netanyahu. They're joking about mass murder, bro.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yep. Goofing off about who's getting picked off on the list, who's getting blown up, what's getting blown up. But I just think this is interesting, too. Just like Trump, in an effort to distract and talk about things that don't matter and attack a political opponent, decided to take a dump on everyone with dyslexia and people with learning disabilities.

[Laura Stylez]

Of course.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, you realize what kind of.

[Ebro Darden]

No. He said he's all for people with learning disabilities, but you should not for

[Peter Rosenberg]

president, but dyslexia should prevent you from being president.

[Laura Stylez]

What about dementia?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, my man.

[Ebro Darden]

What about doo dooing on yourself? Incontinence.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because dementia. Even people with dementia would say, yeah, if you have severe dementia, you probably shouldn't be President of the United States. It's probably not a good idea because you can't keep track of what's going on. Dyslexia would have no impact on how you're able to govern people. Here's my question. Did he get Gavin Newscomb from Nikki?

[Laura Stylez]

Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So, like, that's.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, that's his peoples.

[Laura Stylez]

At least. At least I. She was the one that I first saw in her tweets. Right?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, the name calling. I'll tell you one thing about the right and name calling.

[Ebro Darden]

You have no room to talk about name calling. You, sir, have zero space.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I call Don legreco a moron. Yo, they love to come up with a name for the people they hate, though, bro. That's all they do.

[Laura Stylez]

It's funny and they know people.

[Ebro Darden]

It's entertaining.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's newsome. But we call him New Scum. Get it? Because of Scum. But his name's Newsome. News Scum.

[Ebro Darden]

I thought it was pretty good.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did you?

[Ebro Darden]

New Scum.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It doesn't even sound like scum.

[Ebro Darden]

New Scum.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It doesn't even. It just changes his name to Newscom. I started back. Oh, is his name Gabby?

[Ebro Darden]

Bascom Newscomb? Yo, I don't.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, I don't feel any way about it, yo. Baskin shook his head.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, don't do that. Don't do that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I think we got one Bascom Newscup.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, I'm saying. But not like scum. I'm saying scum. Scum like scum. Like your last name is Bascom. It's not Bas. Scum. You're not a scum.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, hold on, hold on, hold on. You literally used to call him Boscumbag.

[Laura Stylez]

You forgot about that?

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, I didn't. I didn't know anybody was gonna bring it up. I thought. I thought I had up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

When he was outside, we would call him Boscumbag for sure.

[Ebro Darden]

He's not that person anymore.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, he's changed. He's converted.

[Ebro Darden]

This was before four children and before Islam.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Way before.

[Ebro Darden]

That's how long we known him.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, was years ago.

[Ebro Darden]

And by the way, that was last week.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it was not. It was like. How many years? How many years ago, bastard?

[Ebro Darden]

10 years.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Over 10.

[Ebro Darden]

No, he had four kids in a week and became Muslim. No, it was no, but real talk. Sidebar. Everybody watching. There was a day where Rahsaan walked in and was Muslim.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No.

[Ebro Darden]

We were like, what? You're what? He's like, yeah, I converted up. We were like, wait, you was wasted last week?

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, we had never seen it.

[Ebro Darden]

I just saw you winding it up, smoking a blunt. And he found the way.

[Laura Stylez]

He found the way.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, he found a way. Oh, yeah. And he cut his hair. That's right. Came in with a koofie on and hitting his prayers.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it was. We never seen anything like it before.

[Ebro Darden]

We were shot. It took us a good six months to get a grasp.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And yet he's still. And. And, you know, he's hanging on because he still loves boss scumbag tv.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, he loves scumbag tv.

[Laura Stylez]

Ratchet TV show.

[Peter Rosenberg]

What. What ratchet show you watching right now?

[Ebro Darden]

Bad Girls, Phoenix.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, he's too busy with the baby.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, they got a new baby in the house. Congrats again on that. Rahsaan on the new baby. Yay.

[Laura Stylez]

Rah.

[Ebro Darden]

Now, listen, I better not be cooking. I don't want anybody watching this wondering why Rahsaan's already back at work and hasn't taken paternity leave. I ain't got nothing to do with it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, we never seen anything like we trained someone else to do it.

[Ebro Darden]

Trained someone? Bro still showed up because y' all in the chat was bigging up Joe for his camera editing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Is that true?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, absolutely. They were.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nah, Lou, they tried to come for Bascom.

[Ebro Darden]

No, they were just bigging up Joe.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I've been. I've been. I know what it feels like, Bascom,

[Ebro Darden]

but he's a New Yorker.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Facts.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, let's get to the gurus. Hey, yo. It's time for the gurus. Rosenberg. Laura, you know, you are a beautiful queen. Ebro. Don't ever play yourself. You're not a guru.

[Laura Stylez]

Hey, the original gurusmail.com. the original gurusmail.guru. where the gurus unite, shine the light, burn the sage.

[Ebro Darden]

Ebro, Zen, Zen.

[Laura Stylez]

All right, Rosenmore. Who's writing to us? Who needs our help?

[Peter Rosenberg]

So many people are in need of the gurus. Helps. Help. That is not helps. You send your message to us at the original gurus at gmail dot com.

[Ebro Darden]

When you said helps, I couldn't help but think of Eric Adams and all he's had Ebros. And then I couldn't help but giggle that Eric Adams was actually mayor.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it happened. It was crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

It happened. That was crazy, Tom.

[Peter Rosenberg]

And I still haven't Heard back from

[Ebro Darden]

mom and I can't. I. In fact he was in the back of barber shops string Hennessy and going to hookah. Like we stopped and processed it.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it's crazy. If he had just been. If he just hadn't done like the making the rich richer and like doing all the trap basically being just a Republican in sheep's clothing. If he hadn't done that, I really would have enjoyed laughing at how funny he was. He had a shorty out in Rockaway.

[Ebro Darden]

His side piece. Put out a book.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Nah, he had a lot, man. He ruined it though. Could have been fun. But now we haven't heard from mom Donnie this week.

[Ebro Darden]

But it's just like Trump Mom, Dadams. Trump could be fun if he wasn't out here just committing mass murder and getting us in wars.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Making the.

[Ebro Darden]

And being ridiculous and having a whole COVID 19 site. That's a complete propaganda. Did you see that? The lab leak? Did I send that? We'll get to that.

[Peter Rosenberg]

It's crazy.

[Laura Stylez]

All right.

[Ebro Darden]

All right, back to the positivity. All right.

[Peter Rosenberg]

The original gurusmail.com ebro don't ever play yourself. Calid voice I have a question. My wife and I have been married for over 10 years and have gone through a million ups and downs. We have three children and through prayer, patience, therapy and friendship, we have found a great understanding. We are finally on the street. Same page for the most part. She's still the boss, I guess. My question is we have found villages in the past that help us and provided counsel and we found it important to do so for others. But honestly, I am kind of done as there is no magic pill to fix issues. And although we have stress therapy, there is always a reason why they don't or haven't yet. Peter's the only one married legally, I believe, but it doesn't matter. As Lauren Ebro have long term relationships. Do you all have help to. Do you all provide help to friends during tough times or stay the f out of it? Wedlocked and loaded. So is he saying he's sick of helping other people?

[Ebro Darden]

That's what it sounds like.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what it sounds like.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm actually doing it to multiple individuals right now that I've been friends with.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Really? I'm not.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm one's a. One's a husband and wife scenario and they both text me about how much problem.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You got a button over there.

[Ebro Darden]

Congratulations. You played yourself. Yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You don't need that. No one needs that.

[Ebro Darden]

Congratulations.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So you do. So you counsel People.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, but I'm telling them to get therapy.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Your counseling is you should go to someone who can help you with this.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, you should. Guys need to see a professional. But then also, just, like, on some. Being honest with them, like, you're holding on the baggage. And why you bringing up old ish? And if you haven't gotten over the old ish, you should go see a professional about getting over the O ish. And, like, managing those triggers. And, like, why are you doing that? And you know, you're doing this because of that type stuff.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Laura, are you in the.

[Laura Stylez]

I'm kind of like, it's 50. 50. There's some people who I just don't want to get involved with because I know that they're not gonna listen. So I choose to separate myself. And then there's people that, yeah, if they hit me, I will. I will talk to them. But I just try to have, like, a healthy space between us. Do you understand what I'm saying? Because I don't want to be blamed for things. I've been blamed before. I do not want to get blamed. So I'll just say how I feel. But a lot of times I say, you should probably see a professional.

[Ebro Darden]

So one of my friends screwed up a long time ago. Cheating scandal.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

I got the phone call from. From the wife about the cheating.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Hit the button.

[Ebro Darden]

I didn't know about the scandal. Congratulations. But I got to call on, like, yo, do you know this lady? I was like, I've never seen that lady before in my life. This is years ago, though.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay?

[Ebro Darden]

My buddy who screwed up, they have two daughters. And I told him, I was like, yo, you're gonna have to keep showing up for these daughters, whether you like it or not. Just keep getting dirt kicked in your face. Your lady moved. You gotta fly there. You gotta do things. You're gonna have to take the L, bro. That's what it is.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Just one last time. I just want to.

[Ebro Darden]

Congratulations. And so that was my advice. Now that's coming to kind of an end now because the kids are getting older and, you know.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Or do they stay together?

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know what they did, but he kept showing up. Okay. I don't know. Whatever y' all call it, if you live together, if you don't, you're staying over there. Sometimes he's staying. I don't know what was going. I wasn't in the weeds, and to Laura's point, wasn't getting in the weeds, because I know both of y', all, but you screwed up. For whatever reasons you screwed up. Go get therapy for whatever those reasons were.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Validate me coming soon nonetheless. Y' all got two kids. You as the dad, you gotta keep doing this here.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Ebro Darden]

With the other one. I done told them to break up multiple times. I'm tired of y' all texting me. You know what y' all need to do? Break up. Y' all kids is older anyway. Break up. Stop texting me.

[Peter Rosenberg]

I've had enough.

[Ebro Darden]

Stop. Break up then.

[Laura Stylez]

Yeah, because, like, when me. When you continue doing the same thing. Stop bringing up the same. Stop texting me. Stop calling me about the same thing if you're not gonna listen.

[Ebro Darden]

Multiple times I've told him, you know, people break up all the time. It happens all the time.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, it's.

[Ebro Darden]

Why are y' all acting like y' all break up? Y' all are in different rooms. Why is your breakup special?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Also, this isn't interesting anymore. Just from. Just realistically. You can't keep bringing people the same problem repeating.

[Laura Stylez]

It's boring after a while.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's what your family. Your immediate family's there to hear you, like, complain about the same thing forever. And that's what you're literally. That is a rare thing where family's different than friends.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, I'm not that family.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Because you're. No, no, that's what I'm saying. No, you're a friend, your mom.

[Ebro Darden]

You're not that family for my family.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, no, no, I see what you're saying.

[Laura Stylez]

I'm kind of waiting. Ebro.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, I hear you, but, like, with your. With your. With your sibling who's going through something, they may repeat the same bull issue over and over again, but you're literally their sibling. And you hear them. You're like, damn, that's tough, man. But even at a certain point, then you're gonna go, see.

[Ebro Darden]

But you're a great sibling. You're a great sibling. I think you're different.

[Laura Stylez]

Didn't you go through this last year or six months?

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, I've never had that, though, where it's literally just the repeat of the same of the same of the same. Like, at some point. I don't know. Yeah, maybe I would say, hey, bro, you're gonna keep telling me the same thing over and over again. It's time to move on. So, yeah, maybe you're right. Maybe even family is not good. The point is, you're right. You can't keep boring people with the same issue over and over. Life's too short. And what's the point of Ebro or this person doing the work in their own relationship to have a good time if they have to be dragged into someone else's ballway show.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, by the way, by the way. Had to cut somebody out about that. Showed up to a thing. We having vibes. Me and my lady having a good time. They want to talk about. I don't. And y' all listen. If you guys think I am abrasive on the program, I talk crazy in real life to my friends. Will be on the phone with friends. Like, nobody want to hear this. I'm getting off the phone. You sound ridiculous. Oh, by the way, you're in my house. I don't want to talk to you about this. Shut up.

[Peter Rosenberg]

You make a choice. It's my house. This is truly your or.

[Ebro Darden]

Or. I'm having a good time. Not interested in your problems. These are people I love and care about. I'm very, very honest with them. I respect it, and I encourage everybody else to do the same.

[Peter Rosenberg]

So we feel you. So, yeah, you could tap out, buddy. You don't have to keep doing this. So say the Goobers. How about that Fire?

[Ebro Darden]

I just want to say, man. Joe Button, you know, Mark Lamont, Hill, Ice Queens flip, the whole team. Rory and Maul. What other shows are covering? Academics. Big coverage from academics this week. Big, big promo.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Did he go back at you after you entered him?

[Ebro Darden]

I didn't look.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh. Because that line you had on him was crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

What? Evidence. We're doing evidence.

[Peter Rosenberg]

No, when you hit him with seems drunk and sad and crashing out and pathetic. And we were like, whoa. And you're like, what? What? Was that a thing, people?

[Ebro Darden]

No, because that's what people say. I was just.

[Laura Stylez]

All right, all right. Thank you, guys for tuning into our show. We love you. Hit that subscribe button.

[Ebro Darden]

Give us a.

[Laura Stylez]

Like. Give us a hype.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Big fat Friday tomorrow, folks. Get your emails in.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, did we ever get the clip of Trump putting that dead dude or about to die? Senator's business.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Out here we have it.

[Ebro Darden]

I just need to watch it on the way out, guys. I just need. On the way out.

[Peter Rosenberg]

All right?

[Ebro Darden]

Please, please, you guys be patient with me. You got it. I'll bring the. The outro back up. Let me see. He would be dead by June. Okay, that wasn't public, but yeah.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Looked like he wasn't going to make it. I don't know. I don't. I won't mention his name.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's really it, though.

[Ebro Darden]

Do other people know his name? Do you want to mention it? He'll be proud. Go ahead, tell them the story. Okay.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Well, thank you, Mr. President.

[Ebro Darden]

Congressman Neil Dunn of Florida had had some real health challenges and it was very serious and had had a pretty grim diagnosis. And I mentioned it to the president and I said, congressman Dunn is a real champion and a patriot because he's still coming to work. And if others got this diagnosis, they would be apt to go home and retire. What was the diagnosis? Putting all his business out. It won't stop. Terminal diagnosis. He would be dead by June.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yo, stop.

[Ebro Darden]

It was great.

[Laura Stylez]

And just laughing.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Outro.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, yo, listen. That's good stuff. He'd be dead by June.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, you can see the levels of psychosis. There's just levels for this. Like Mike Johnson, bad guy. Capable, though, of being like my man. You can't.

[Laura Stylez]

I know.

[Ebro Darden]

Pam Bondi, cracking up, thinks it's hilarious sitting next to Mike Johnson. That's the attorney general. They are putting someone's health information, private health information, just out to the world.

[Peter Rosenberg]

He'd be dead by June. Crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

But by the way, it was all too big up himself.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, because, well, he would vote for him. And I got him a doctor. Yeah, he. He kept voting for me, so I like him.

[Ebro Darden]

King.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

They made him stay because he was dying.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Yeah, he was worried about losing the seat, so they.

[Ebro Darden]

But they also got him a doctor. And he's not dead by June.

[Peter Rosenberg]

We saved him. So I can get the votes.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, we got another show tomorrow. The Friday show. Family Friday. Fat Friday.

[Peter Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

Next week I'm gonna press Laura for these new T shirts.

[Laura Stylez]

Oh, yes, yes, yes.

[Ebro Darden]

So get ready.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Here we go.

[Ebro Darden]

El Army. And remember, El Army. Just thrive. Go look for it. Code ELR 20% off ELR show, I believe. Right? Hold on.

[Peter Rosenberg]

Let me not get this wrong on the way out. We're not going to mess this up. Just thrive health.com ELR There you go.

[Ebro Darden]

Just don't call it a podcast.

[Laura Stylez]

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[Ebro Darden]

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