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Just don't call it a podcast.
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The Ebro Laura Rosenberg show.
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Okay. I was. I was informed this week that because we got some new technology. We got a new soundboard. Oh, yeah. We got some Eqing issues on Laura's mic. Let's get a mic check.
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One, two, one, two, one, two, one, two.
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We're working on it.
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Sounds good. Yes.
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Yeah, we got. We got to give Laura some resonance.
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All right.
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You know what I mean? We got to EQ her mic. We got. You know what I mean?
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Let's do it.
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Let's add some mids and some lows to Loris mike. I don't know why it sounds like a pause and a joke to me, but it doesn't.
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Add some mids and lows to Laura's mike. No, it doesn't.
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It doesn't. It's really this. Congratulations. Oh, it's funny to me. Are you guys following or did you guys follow this week? The mom Donnie story?
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Which one?
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There's so many.
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The one about the property and the. The, like, the gifting of property and that whole.
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That was big because of 50 Cent, right?
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So he posted something saying, is this real?
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Right.
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And it was a black woman talking about if your property's over. And she's a conservative kind of pundit on. On social media, talking about if you live in New York and you And. And the death tax and if you're gifted property and how that works out in this new mom Donnie, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But obviously, it doesn't get into the fine print like we've seen with most of these anti mom Donnie campaigns of actually understanding what he's actually proposing. I just didn't even know if you saw this.
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I did not spend time with this Laura.
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You were in.
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Yeah, it was big in my algorithm. A lot of people were sending it to me, asking me if this is true. I'm like, you got to look into it, guys. And then I had a nice chat with our. Our friend. I'll call him a friend of the show. Even though he hasn't been on the show, but wants to be on the show.
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Yeah.
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What's it? Mentally.
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Mentally divine. Official.
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Yes. Yes, yes. He actually made a video breaking everything down, kind of explaining it a little bit more thorough.
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But that's number 12 to me and you there, Rahsaan Bascom on this Friday Family Matter show.
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Ah, Family Friday. Fought Friday. Fart Friday.
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It's important, though.
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You have it.
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The numbers. The numbering system isn't.
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Well, listen, you know, it's complicated. Billionaires are mad that Mumdani's about to
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tax the out of them and they're
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using the media to rage bait you
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to fight their battle for them.
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This is the headline coming out of
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the MAGA owned New York Post, which by the way is owned by 95 year old Rupert Murdoch who also owns Fox News and the Wall Street Journal. And of course the headline is Extreme Mandani estate tax proposal goes right after
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New York middle class families.
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So of course I pulled up the
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exact two page document to read it
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for myself because I actually appreciate primary sources. In this two page document. You can see the mom Dani is proposing all the he's been saying about
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taxing the rich from the beginning, including
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a 2% tax increase on anyone making over a million dollars. Increasing the corporate tax rate 1 to 2%, increasing the new York City unincorporated business tax rate for businesses making over $5 million, a 1% surcharge on residential properties with a market value of over $5 million, a 1% real property transfer tax on transactions over a million dollars,
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and a city and mansion tax on,
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on properties over $5 million, all of
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which would generate billions of dollars for the city.
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None of this was ever highlighted in the article. And let me also say that a
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lot of people read the headline and
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ran with the misinformation instead of reading
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the actual memo because the one line
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that they did highlight was this one line at the bottom of the page that they then took completely out of context.
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The memo specifically proposes an increase in the estate tax.
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An estate tax is a tax on
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what you leave behind when you die.
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This is not a tax that you
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pay while you're living.
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It's not coming out of your paycheck. It's not hitting your savings account and
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it triggers exactly once after you're gone
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on wealth that you're no longer using and leaving behind.
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Well, and then he goes on to explain how the tax actually breaks down and it's not significant at all.
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But it didn't sound super significant.
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No, it's not. But it, but it ran all week. People were running with it all week. The anti Mom Donnie movement. And, and, and also there's a New York Times article and we can get into this next week because I gotta watch this play out. Remember the whole Mom Donnie hokul. Now we got the, was it 3K? You know, she funded the, the child care. More seats for 3K, more seats for 3K. There's, there was a whole thing at the inauguration. People who are anti hokul who have now abandoned Supporting Momdani to some degree because he's close with Hokul. All within the Democratic Party here in New York state. So there's a whole faction working against Mom Donnie in the Democratic kind of, kind of base because of how he's playing politics with Hoko, with Trump and others. So it's going to be interesting to see how it plays out.
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As if he's not supposed to. He. What? What?
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Trying to get things done.
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What do you expect him to do?
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Yeah, but, but realistically. But Laura, on the flip side, play devil's advocate, okay? Because I know the listeners love when I do that. If, if you're a hardcore lefty, like for real hardcore, like, I don't know, more hardcore than us. Not capitalist at all. I don't know. And you see him glad handing with these people in any way. They see that as a violation of the person that they voted for. If they were really thought he's gonna completely upend the system. I think they were naive.
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Yes.
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He's running for mayor. You know what I'm saying? This is what the job is. But I could see how they'd be like, yo, now you're at the White House acting friendly with this guy with.
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When you know there's a reason behind it.
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We see the forest through the trees. Although I will say I'd like to hear from the Mamdani people. We've been trying to get them on now for two months. So, uh, oh, I will. I will say, uh.
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Oh, Rosenberg. Yo, somebody start the clock. Start the clock. Boys and girls.
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I'm not gonna lie, like, I'm annoyed too.
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I've been very active and like the weeks come and it was, can you guys come here? Could we do that?
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So let me ask you though, honest. Honest. Mom, Donnie, we're not on a New York broadcast.
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No, I get it.
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Any longer.
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And they, and they knew that going into it I was. We had talked before, before the phone call came from the powers that be. I told Mom, Donnie's people, heads up, we're about to be on our own. That's where we sense this thing is going. We hope that we'll still have you guys be a part of what we're doing and vice versa. And absolutely. We know what you guys mean. They get it. They're just not getting it done. So, you know, let's get it done. Let's have the conversation.
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So, Rosenberg, we got a special guest on this family Fat Friday.
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Well, I thought this was the perfect place to do this because this is a family Issue. I was on social media a few weeks ago.
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Okay.
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And I just been talking to my guy, Quicksilva, because he started a podcast and we talked about doing a podcast. Quicksilva is a legend from the DMV, one of the best DJs you'll ever hear, and started this podcast. We were chatting about doing something, and then I saw that he posted that his manager and best friend Big Sam passed away. And then he started writing hashtag justice for Big Sam. So I hit him up and I'm like, what the hell happened to Big Sam? And it turns out that Sam was killed during an interaction with the police.
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Oh, my God.
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So I saw the video. It did not look good. And I asked Quick if he wanted to come on with the lawyer Bill Murphy and chat about what's happening. And so they're joining us right now on FO Friday. DJ Quick Silva and Bill Murphy. Quick, thanks for. Thanks for joining us. Making some time, man.
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Thanks for having us. That's my lawyer, Billy. Billy Murphy.
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Billy Murphy.
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Billy Murphy.
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What up, Billy?
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Thanks for joining us, sir. So, Quicksilver, first of all, I want to send, you know, love and light to you and all the family and friends affected by Big Sam's murder. And I want to start with you. Where is the case at now, and what do you need the public to do?
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First, I want to say thank you for having me on this morning. It means a lot to take time out of your schedule. You know, Samuel Brown is his name, because I want to say his name, Samuel Brown, but the world knows him as Big Sam. This has been my partner, best friend since 1994. He is the reason that I'm even a DJ. The first club I ever mixed out in my life was a club that him and his family owned back in 94. So to have someone that's been a part of your life and your career, your entire life that died at the hands of a Baltimore county police officer by the name of Derek Hadle. It's beyond frustrating. I'm angered. Any other emotion you can think of, because at the end of the day, Samuel Brown should be alive. Just to give you a quick background, this was a wellness check that they. He got called in the officer and always say, a wellness check, no matter what's going on, shouldn't end in your death. At the worst, it should end in you potentially being locked up if you're wrong or drunk or something like that. But you should never die at the hands of a police officer. And this police officer struck Sam twice in the Face, which caused him to fall back, hit his head, be brain dead, in a coma for over a week, and then eventually passed away by the hands of the officer Derek Hadle with two illegal blows. Might I say. So if you look back at the tape, it just is so many gaps and holes in it. And once again, our lawyer Billy Murphy's on here, and he's been doing a great job of handling the legal portion. But my goal is just to get the word out for people to really do their research on this case, because unfortunately, edited video came out on social media and people tried to paint the narrative that Sam got pulled over and he just got out the car to nowhere and he attacked the officer, which we now know is not the case, according to the police report and the details that we have from this. But we do know at the end of the day, at the end, the cop should have arrested Sam if he felt like Sam was endangering his life or anything like that. But once again, that's not the case. So I think right now, my goal is just to get people to know about this case, know his name, Samuel Brown. And. And as of this second, this moment, we are waiting for the Attorney General to decide if they're going to press charges on Officer Derek Hadle. He's now on administrative leave pending an investigation. But, you know, my stance has been since day one. I'm not sure what we're investigating because we know for a fact the illegal actions that he took led to Sam Samuel Brown's death.
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Billy, is that is the way quick there describes it, Accurate in your eyes as well? What did the officer do in your eyes here? What should have happened and what. And what did happen?
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Okay, the officer had the obligation to de. Escalate the encounter. That's the law in Baltimore County. That's the law in Maryland. And he did the opposite. When he first encountered Big Sam, he slammed the door in his face, and it went downhill from there. Big Sam then got out of the car. The officer tried to push him back. Big Sam swatted his hands down, and on the second swat, the officer unloaded on him like he was in a street fight. He hit him with a hard right hook to the face and immediately thereafter, a hard left hook to the face. And he hit him so hard, he broke bones in his face, including his nose, and so hard that he slammed him to the ground and fractured his skull when he hit the ground. He started bleeding profusely quickly thereafter and never recovered from the coma that he was in and ultimately died. It's a brutal encounter. Police shouldn't be punching people in the face. They should. He could have backed away.
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He could have used mace.
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He could have used pepper spray. He could have arrested big Sam, and Big Sam would still be alive today. Oh, no. But he had to. He had to go into the street vernacular and punch him viciously and brutally in his face. Because one of the narratives was, and according to the police report, it said that Samuel Brown struck officer Derek Hadel twice. Once again, that is not a fact. If you look at the actual video, when officer Derek Hadle put his hand on Sam and told him to get the f back in the car after axing him. Because according to the police report, Officer Derek Hadle opened Sam's door. Ask him was he okay. Then he asked Sam to step out of the car. Sam at that point said, I'm not stepping out of the car. Like, if I'm arrested, arrest me. But, like, what am I stepping out of the car for? Officer Derek hatel continued to ask him to step out of the car. He got into his feelings because Sam didn't. At that point, he escalated it by slamming Sam's door. I've never heard of a wellness check ended in an office. Even if you think the person is drunk or anything, on a wellness check, you don't slam a person's door. Sam then got out the car with his hands behind his back to show, I'm not a threat. I don't have any guns or weapons on me. And then when the officer put his hand, this is the most important part because the narrative has been that Sam hit the officer. And according to the police report, it says with a closed fist, Samuel Brown punched the officer. He did not. When the officer put his hand on his chest, Sam went like this to swipe down, to move his hand, and he missed. That is the most important part that people are missing because according to police report, it keeps saying that Sam struck the officer twice. Sam never, ever hit the officer. Sam never went to punch the officer. Sam told the officer, get off of me and try to swipe down. But the most important part is that he actually missed both times. So when people go back and watch the video, now that I'm saying this, you can be like, oh, my God, I didn't realize. Sam missed on both times. If you miss, if you feel like I assaulted you as an officer, the law says you. You arrest me. That's what the law says. You arrest me. The law does not say you have permission to punch.
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Well, I think those are the I Think those are the things that often get lost in these cases is the responsibility of the law enforcement person to follow code and conduct. And prior to you coming on Quicksilver, you know, we've often on this show and going all the way back to George Floyd, talked about an issue in the nation which is this qualified immunity clause that often allows officers to avoid criminal prosecution and sometimes and. And civil pro and civil as well because of them being on the job. And you know, we've often felt and discussed that if that was able to be removed, officers would be more responsible. Because what ultimately happens in these cases is officers aren't held accountable.
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Right.
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Maybe they're fired, but somebody was killed here. And then taxpayers end up having to pay for the mistakes of these officers. And the officer doesn't go to jail. Taxpayers family lost a loved one. Taxpayers are out of money because of officers continued mistakes. And so we're just in this constant cycle of people who actually have a responsibility to follow code and conduct not doing so, money being paid, lives being lost and nothing being solved.
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And not to mention how many officers relocate to other places after being, you know, caught up doing something and another precinct will just take them.
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Yeah, go ahead.
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This is so important to note is because. Because, you know, these are some of the narratives that are out there on social media with these social media lawyers that think they know the law. Just from talking directly to law enforcement and so many other people that actually work in law enforcement, they made it very clear that officer Derek Hadel ignored his training because people are saying that, well, Sam shouldn't have got out the car and Sam shouldn't have been trying to SWAT the officer's hand down. Okay, let's just say you're right. You're absolutely correct. Got it. But the law says you arrest him. Yeah, that's what the law says. You arrest him. And the most important part to add to this, when Sam incident happened, 12 hours went by before they even notified me or his family that he had been in an altercation. When we got to the hospital, these are the facts that people just are just alienating. When we got to the hospital, we were told that Sam got pulled over. Once again, he didn't get pulled over. He was sleep at. He was sleep. He fell asleep at the wheel. So he never was driving. The officer came and Sam was sleep on a wellness check. When he woke him up, ask him he had been drinking. Sam said, I'm good. Officer said, I smell liquor. Step out the car. When they finally, after all the altercation happens and he punches him illegally. And then they shackle him, by the way, they put shackles on his feet like he was a threat. After he's sitting there brain dead. After 12 hours, we get a call and the police. I wish I got his name, but I did not. But the police officers, when I arrived, we asked what happened, and they told us that he got out of the car being aggressive. An altercation happened with the officer. And due to that altercation, the officer had to use force and Sam slipped on ice and hit his head.
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So I just lied to you.
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So we went back. There was no ice. There was no slip and fall. And why did y' all not tell us that you punched him twice? And I always say if you leave with a lie, there has to be more lies.
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Of course.
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And these are the facts of the case that people just don't know. It's like we were told that this happened from a slip and fall. It was only by the grace of God that I looked one of the nurses in the face and said, all this happened from a slip and fall. And their exact response was, legally, I can't tell you what happened. But I can tell you one thing. You need a lawyer. If they wouldn't have told me that, Sam would have died. And we would have thought it happened from a slip and fall. Not that Officer Dark Hadel illegally punched him in the face twice, would lead to him hitting his head, put him in a coma for a week, and then he died.
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Well, Silva, I'm sad you have to deal with this. To Sam's family, you know, six kids,
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four daughters and two sons.
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Yeah. To the children and family and brothers, sisters, everybody. The community that's affected by this. Sorry you have to go through this. And. And there's nothing that happens, unfortunately, from this point forward that brings your brother back, right? Your father back. You know, I mean, and so at this point, it becomes about holding the county responsible, holding police officer responsible, and, And, And. And then pursuing whatever means it is to get some sort of closure. And the civil part, yeah, but it's quick.
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Listen, go ahead.
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He be fired in charge. But that's. That's our demand, justice for Big Sam, is that we want Officer Derek Hill to be fired and charged.
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Well, listen, we. We. Laurie, you say something?
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No, I was just gonna say. Listen, I know it's. It's important because the family needs support. You guys need support. Support. And I hate to bring this up, but money is involved. So if there's any way, if there's a gofundme if there's any way that we could support his family. And I know sometimes you feel like, no, I don't want to do that. But it's expensive and it's important, so please send it over. We're more than happy to share because I know you're working hard behind the scenes, but the financial burden is huge. So let's. This is when Community steps in.
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Exactly.
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And helps out.
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So Quick, whatever we could do. Shoot me any information you have. Keep us posted on this and we will keep spreading the word. You can follow DJ QuickSilva on Instagram. He's posting about this a lot. But keep fighting the fight, man. We hope you get some closure. And we're thinking about you guys and Sam's family.
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Thank you so much, man. I really appreciate you guys. Once again, the hashtag is justice for Big Sam. Because at the end of the day, a wellness check should never end. In your death, Samuel Brown should be alive today.
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Thank you, guys.
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All right, brother. God bless.
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God bless you all as well.
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All right, peace.
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That's tough, man.
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Yeah, it's just. It's. It's so crazy too. In an instant, your life is normal. This looking at it from a selfish standpoint of like just the person affected by it. And now like this. This is Quick's life now. You know what I'm saying? Is fighting for justice for your brother.
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That's right.
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But that's.
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And you can't bring them back all, like you pointed out, all you could do is hope to get a little bit of accountability. That's it for people to say, we're sorry, this shouldn't have happened.
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And then when you think about it. And that's why I brought up if there's a GoFundMe. Because you need money to fight.
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Yeah.
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This is the world that we live in. And he has six children. They say six children. So that they're going to need support.
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Yeah, man. Just glad we can make time to do it. But it's just a horrible story, man.
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Yeah.
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And they'll flip that super easy. And also, this is big with the hashtag justice for Big Sam. Big Sam. Look up pictures of him. Big man. We know how police in America treat big black men in particular more than any group specifically. You know what I'm saying? Like, that truly goes back to so many of these cases. George Floyd.
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Mike Brown.
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Mike Brown. Why am I. I feel terrible. My man in Staten Island.
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Oh, Eric Garner. Eric Garner.
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God bless. So often the size is factored in into. Oh, they have to inherently.
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Even when they shot Tamir Rice.
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Yeah.
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Tamir Rice was a child.
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Child. Who they said was all who they thought was a grown man. So there's always a reason. Right. When you watch the video, and I've seen the video, you could tell that, you know, Sam isn't in a great state. Right. He had been asleep. He obviously pulled over, knew he should be asleep. He fell asleep, gets up, is completely out of it. But there's no reason this had to, like, you do have all these things. You do have mace. You do have.
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Yeah. But also, if it's a wellness check. Right.
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This is.
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Goes back to the conversation around defund the police. All everyone was. So you had activists came up with a phrase, defund the police.
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Right.
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That's what activists do. Politicians supposed to take that phrase and call, okay, what are these people actually saying? What do they want to have happen? Which some politicians did. Which was, let's think about safety differently. Right. Because as we know, when it comes to getting a restraining order and you feel like your life's in order, what can police do?
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Nothing.
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Right. They can't do anything until something happens. Right. Or when somebody's like, hey, so and so is having an episode, we need somebody to show up.
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How about an angry police officer?
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No. And that's what people were saying.
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If someone taps on the window here, who's there for a wellness check? You know, someone whose job is to make sure you're okay not wearing A police uniform not going get out of the car, but saying, hey, buddy, are you alright? I'm here from the county, blah, blah, blah. We understand you're on the side of the road. You seem like you're tired. What can we do to make and
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I to come get you? You need a ride wherever you're going. You want us to stay with you for a little while?
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What can we do? What do we do here? Let's help you now, if that person has also committed a crime, right? Like they were driving and intoxicated. Well, these people are affiliated with the state and they can then report those things later and it can be dealt with. But you're not dealing with a now a tense altercation.
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Well, and so. And so back to the defund the police part. What people were trying to say to police is, hey man, you guys have a hard job and we're asking you to do too much. Let's take some of the money and pay someone else. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And that's where the police unions jump in. Because everybody wants their overtime and they want their raises and they want their pension. It comes back to money. So it's like, no, no, give us all the money. The people who have been abusing you, committing crimes and getting away with it. And then we'll decide how the money's divvied up.
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Don't you worry. We got it.
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We're gonna investigate ourselves.
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Yeah, when you talk to certain cops, they were. They were with it. Yes. We don't want to deal with these situations. We do nothing.
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But they don't want to give up the budget though. That's the piece, yo.
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Hashtag justice for Big Sam, man. Hope they get some sort of resolution. But thanks. Thanks everyone.
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Yo, it is a family matters. A fat Friday.
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Yeah.
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What do you guys want to get to the FOTs or the family?
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What y' all want to do?
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Let's have.
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Let's do emails first.
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Emails first. Let's get into Ebro, la, Rosenberg or the ELR show at Gmail. We got some voice notes to get to. I think we got Patrick and Ishmael. We appreciate your voice notes. Laura, you got an email you want to get to?
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I do, I do. Two short ones. I'm gonna hit them really quickly. Hey, Laura and Squad, I know you guys get crap about not being from New York, but this Bronx girl loves each and each one of y' all deep. You put. You put on for the people and always come through with the truth facts when very few do your el army shows. Exactly that. Please keep going. All right, and then we have Jasmine. Hey, ELR team. Big fan for over 10 years. As soon as you guys left the old station, so did I. I'm sticking with you till the wheels fall off.
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Thank you.
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I wanted to share that my 4 year old is also talking about death non stop. So Laura sharing her story about Kenza made me crack up because I too was wondering if this was normal. And I love and appreciate how transparent you are about life. Keep it up.
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Well, we got an update for you on that coming up.
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Family.
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Stay tuned for Family Matters.
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Family matters. Rosenberg, will you help? First of all, I want to shout out, Gerald, what you watching Wednesday? Get your email as Gerald down there in Nolan.
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Oh, Gerald Nolan.
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Shreveport, Losanna. Losanna. He says shout out to 50 about to make big moves to the city. As I'm listening now, I'm in favor of Fat Friday. Love it. Throw something out there for you. What you watching Wednesday where we talk about tv. Gerald, appreciate you on that. And Rosenberg, see this one right here from Monica. Oops, sorry.
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Don't get me caught up. So I saying, Monica, I forgot all
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about your man Jack Harlow. Your man.
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This is Monaco needs help with a dj.
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Yeah.
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Does you want to read this one?
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No, I just wanted you maybe to help her with a DJ.
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Oh, like actually reach out real quick.
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You know DJs.
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This is interesting. This is a good topic though. She's asking, how do you evaluate a DJ and pick a wedding dj? This is interesting. She said she's in Rotterdam marrying a Dutch guy. Yes, he's tall and we're throwing our wedding this summer. The problem? No idea how to pick a DJ out here. The music scene is obviously heavy on house and techno, which I love, but I also need some hip hop and Latin flavor. Yes, I'm Latina. I can't have my wedding sounding like a fully biza Euro trash set with zero flavor. No offense to my European people, but I need balance. How do you even evaluate a dj? What should I be asking? Asking, what are the red flags? Yo, you know what you should do? You should either find a DJ in America you love and bring them out. It's like not that because like you're gonna. DJs are expensive anyway.
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Yeah.
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So like you throw on, you say, hey, we'll fly you out too. You know, you and put them up for a night. It costs you another 1500 bucks or whatever, but that could be worth it. Or number two, go to clubs, don't. You don't have to Go to companies that do like. I'm sure Rotterdam has a lot of parties and a scene, and you guys go out and do stuff.
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You might be looking for the local that play the music, that play hip hop, a little bit of Latin, a little bit of everything.
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But they've been there.
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Because when you look for a wedding dj, you're gonna get the. You know, the corny.
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You can, like, listen are. There are great DJs who DJ weddings. But if you get just wedding DJs, man, respect.
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I don't want to do certain type of corn.
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I don't. I don't want to cause problems. I don't need more emails.
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Where's this person again?
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Rotterdam.
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Is anybody listening or know anybody or is anybody watching, listening or wherever you are in Europe and you know some
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dj, because even if they're not in from Rotterdam, they could be two hours away.
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Yeah, this place, you know, now we know. I know some European folks. I don't know if they know DJs in Rotterdam, but still, I don't know.
C
Who's our friend? Who's her friend?
D
Who's her friend?
A
Monica.
C
What's her friend? Monica. Monica. Dm. My dear friend. DJ Lady S. She'll know someone for sure. She. Yeah, she lives here, but she's European, actually, she spends the summers in Europe, so maybe she'll be available.
D
Yeah, hit up Lady S. That's a
C
great idea, but hit her up. And she knows the European scene, so she will give you. You know, she will suggest somebody good.
D
All right, guys, I'm gonna read an email, all right? And I'm gonna try my best to. My wife was telling me last week. Okay, I'm gonna. I'm gonna really try my best to keep harnessing my inner Coleman McCarthy and be peaceful about how I handle things
A
instead of going off the Coleman's. The OG that raised you.
D
The teacher that passed away a few weeks ago.
A
Yeah, that's right.
D
All right, here we go. Omar says, OMG Rosenberg. Please stop. This came just after Monday's show.
A
Okay.
D
I'm writing as a dedicated listener who is increasingly frustrated with the recurring dynamic on the show, specifically regarding Rosenberg's tendency to play devil's advocate when white figures have offended the black community. The recent discussion regarding Jack Harlow is the perfect example of a tired pattern. Peter, when you lead with I've met him or, he seems like a chill person, you are prioritizing your personal anecdotes over the actual impact of an individual's actions. We don't need to know their heart. When we can clearly see their actions. Giving a pass based on a vibe or a one time interview minimizes the lived experience of the black audience you serve and feels like you're jumping through hoops to justify a behavior that the community has already flagged as problematic. If you appreciate the culture as much as you say you do, your role should be to listen on why the community is offended, not to explain away the offense on behalf of the offender. Please stop playing both sides at the expense of the people who actually built this culture. It's exhausting to listen to and it's a betrayal of the platform's responsibility. I'm trying to stick with you guys, but the way the climate is today, I can't rock with the fence straddlers like Rosenberg. This is why I stopped effing with the Breakfast Club ages ago. I'd like to ask you guys. I'm going to give you the option. Choose your own adventure. Lauren Ebro.
C
Right?
D
Would you like empathetic calm Rosenberg, or would you like Crash Out? Tell this guy how he feels. Rosenberg.
A
Well, before I make that decision, there's some anecdotes that were interesting to me.
D
Go ahead.
A
Which were the. His quote about knowing someone's heart versus seeing their actions. While Jack Harlow's actions, I think were egregious and a big mistake. Knowing Jack Harlow's heart and his age also play a part into me saying, because I was the one that I don't. Maybe even more than you said. Jack Harlow's a nice guy. I don't know if he intended this. Hope he didn't. Because I do not want to live in a space for myself. This is personal. I don't want to live in a space where I'm constantly assuming the worst and going on attack mode at every trigger, because that is not productive for yourself. I don't think it's safe for me. And so I do often assume, hey, I've met you before and you seem like a thoughtful person, so maybe that wasn't what you meant to do. And I also don't want to lump you in with other people who are just racist Nazi evil dirtbags who do mean stuff to black people just because they get their jollies on it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I don't want to lump you into those people. Now I will gladly do so if you find that out later on, but that's not where I'm gonna go first.
D
So you've. Your calm response there is taking me out of crash out mode, being an option. So I'll keep it. I'll keep.
A
Oh, sorry. Yo, to the audience. I ruined it. My bad, yo. Because you know what the people want?
D
Oh, do they want to try Go Ham. No, they did. I'm gonna. I'm no Red Face Rosenberg today. I. I just don't know what this person heard. On Monday's show, all of us felt the exact same way. A mix of, what are you doing? Why did you do that? I like you. You've always been cool. What. What are you doing? Did he really do that? Did he mean that by Monica? Did he do joke, joke, joke? We all literally did the exact same thing, which was. This was a weird choice. I don't really like it. I didn't go as far as Ebro saying that his performance sucked, but I did say I didn't like it.
A
So let me tell you something. The reason I said that and I felt bad, I even went home like, babe, was that too hard on Jack Harlow? She don't know Jack Harlow from Can of Paint. She's like, nah. But I was. I honestly was like, yo, man. Because I see him as young, and I see him as someone who does want to contribute. He just did it incorrectly, right?
D
And.
A
And his performance did suck. It was like, you gave nothing, Jack. Like, literally nothing. You're a rapper. You rap well. You tried to. You confused soul and cool. You're cool because you have soul. You don't have soul just because you act cool.
D
Oh, that's a. That's a bar. That's a bar.
A
You see what I'm saying? So he was just trying to be cool and laid back instead of actually finding emotion and digging deep into his soul and getting real singers to complement what he was trying to do and really build out this world. It was lazy, and it sucked.
D
So while I didn't go necessarily that far, I was there, guys. I was definitively critical. But also like Ebro, who I think did it more hesitate because we know these people, and we're not mean, callous people. You realize what kind of person I have to be and both. All of us, to get up here and criticize someone and tear them down like we never met them before, never shook their hands, never showed them love. I have the man's phone number. I'm going to rip him down, act like I don't know him from Adam. In no way was I a straddler on it.
C
I don't think so. I think you were very fair.
D
I had jokes. I had jokes for it. I had serious.
A
Again, Once again, guys, this email. And the person says it in the email. The person is triggered by the climate that they're living in and what they're seeing on the algorithm more than it has anything to do with.
D
I thought about this last week. Because when you said that last week, it was. It was incredibly smart, pointed thing that you said. And it's also bullish.
A
Why?
D
Because. Why do they deserve the grace of saying, because your algorithm's affecting you and you're seeing all these things. I understand why you take it out on Rosenberg. We don't have that grace for everyone.
A
It's the same way. Well, no. So we don't. Right. So I don't know. But listen, the person emailing we don't know. We don't know this person. Right.
D
We do not.
A
They know us.
D
Correct.
A
So I assume that you're watching us, you're involved in our program. I'm gonna give this person the same pass I would give Jack Harlow. You know what Jack Harlow said in his interview with the New York Times? I understand the political climate, and I know that what I'm doing right could be taken a certain way. Jack also is affected by the political climate and what's going on in the world. And him being a white person and stepping into a space, and he made a decision, and he effed it up. This person is saying, I'm also affected by the world around me and the algorithm and all the things. And I'm triggered. And this is how I feel about now, once again. But I'm saying in.
D
But because of that, I am accusing you of things you simply did not do, because I've seen other people do it, and I don't like it. I left the Breakfast Club. He says maybe he feels triggered by Schultz and Charlemagne. He's associating me with other things. The only thing that I have been a middle grounder on, on any issue of significance, which I'm not even a middle grounder on, but I know the audience sees it differently than me, is that I don't take every Epstein rumor as instant fact. That is the only thing.
A
Yo.
D
Every other political issue.
A
That's it. Maybe.
D
I drew over the top every political issue for 18 years. LGBTQ. Everything you could think. Think of. I am definitive. My stance on Ice. My stance on. I am definitive. And you say I'm a straddler. Because on the Jack Harlo thing, what I didn't say, get him out of the.
A
That was. That's all he could take. That was his last straw.
D
And I.
A
And by the way, last straw, Rosenberg. Jack Harlow, Monday. Making an R and B soul album, bro.
D
And Monday was one of my best jokes days in years. I had a lot of fun at the Jack Harlow thing, which, by the way, what are you supposed to do? The whole thing is littered with jokes. Are we going to act like the Internet wasn't spending two days with album covers? This while he did a jackass thing?
A
I still don't think I've gotten enough credit from Michael McDowell.
D
No, Michael McDowell was great, I don't think. No.
A
But what about you? I think it's too deep. It's too deep.
D
What about. I'm sorry, I saw this a couple days ago when I went back and looked at the comments from our video on Monday. Someone called America Badu.
A
No, Murica Badu.
C
That I cackled.
A
No cackle.
C
Fun.
A
I had to build on it and call it America by Don't. But still, it was great.
D
But, well. But I guess you're having too much fun. My point is, we all said a similar thing. I don't know what. My man. I don't know what I could say to you that you came away from that conversation thinking I'm a straddler. I was making excuses. All I was saying was, I know
A
the guy and I hope I was. I feel like the audiences might be feeling this this week. Once again, why do you care so much about this singular individual schedule?
D
Sorry, you're right, I shouldn't. Because it's every week.
A
Well, no, but how about this? How about this week you go off. You go off knowing. Knowing you even gave us the option here today.
D
Yeah, because I was feeling both.
A
Right. But you go off knowing you're gonna trigger people to make them feel something. And then when you make them feel something and they come back to you with the thing that they feel.
D
Yeah.
A
Not that you were trying that on Jack Harlow. I wasn't. But I'm.
D
That's what's frustrating.
A
But I'm just saying, in general, that's the person you are.
D
I guess so.
A
So now they feel something. They come back to him and he's like, why do you. Why are you feeling something? Because I made you feel something. The whole reason you're here is because you make people feel something.
D
I appreciate that. I understand that is my gift in radio, but that. Our conversation on Monday about Jack was an Ebro led conversation in which I agreed, ad libbed, made some jokes.
A
He doesn't get it. He's triggered by. He'll be fine. Maybe he'll Write back. Maybe you'll get over it.
B
Maybe.
D
But I'm a lot of things in life. I'm not a line strap.
A
Listen, at this point, if he's not a subscriber and not a Patreon,
D
that's it. Oh, wait, no, he's probably a subscriber.
A
You think. You think he's a subscriber. You think he gets. But you think his notifications are wrong?
D
I think so. He seems like he's.
A
Or you think this guy's notifications wrong?
C
I don't know, bro.
A
Yo, if your notifications aren't on.
D
No, we got nothing.
A
And subscribing.
D
Yeah.
A
I give you the option on the Patreon.
D
That's money.
A
You can't. That's an option.
D
You can't force people on.
A
That's right. If you've never left a Super Chat money in the Super Chat, I won't even judge you.
D
No. Why not?
A
But you gotta have notifications on. At least be a subscriber for me to actually. Actually give a damn. So that was actually promo for you to subscribe and turn your notifications.
B
Yeah.
D
See what you did? That was good, though. That was good.
A
All right, Laura, let's get your voice note.
C
Yes, please.
A
All right, this is Patrick.
C
Let me see.
B
Yo, Ebro Laura Rosenberg. This is Patrick. This message is for Rosenberg. Rosenberg.
D
I actually think you're a good guy, actually.
B
And maybe I'm just biased or maybe I'm just different when it comes to what people say and think about me because I don't give a damn most of the time what people say and
A
think about me because I know who
B
I am and I know I'm actually
A
a pretty nice guy. Oh, actually, I think genuinely you're a pretty nice guy.
B
So when, yes, I'm giving you some. I'm not going to give you some, but I'm going to say some unsolicited advice.
D
Okay?
A
And you can beat this out, man.
B
Fuck these people. Because everybody wants to say all the negative aspects to whoever individual online, but
A
nine times out of 10, they may
B
or may not say it in person. And we don't. I mean, we know the personality Ebro
A
Laura Rosenberg, but we don't know the
B
actual personal Ebro Laura Rosenberg.
A
So if.
B
If possible, try not to let these people bother you on these comments and
A
these voice notes and these EBR emails. Because, man, that really. That really gets on my nerves when
B
people have the audacity to speak on something they do not know. And I just got finished listening to y' all have A dissertation on Jonas from three.
D
Oh, yeah, 13. I think he's the one I directed to my crumb.
A
Whatever. Friday, Jonas.
B
Nah, you don't even know buddy.
A
Anybody don't know you.
B
And he a fan. He a fan. He a fan. All right.
D
Thank you, buddy.
A
Yo, Patrick, Appreciate it being kind of long. No, it's all good, Peter.
B
Chris, bleep this out these people. Oh, keep on doing your thing.
D
Do you edit that live?
A
Well, followed y' all from from Hot 97 to YouTube. Thanks, Patrick.
C
Thank you so much, Patrick.
A
See, well, I got news for all of y'.
D
All.
A
I'm not. Roseberg's got a new podcast with somebody else in here. Let me see here. Menza.
D
Yeah. Wrote about validation addiction.
A
Roll about. Validation addiction, you know? Look, hate to be that guy, because I like.
D
That's why you're gonna do it.
A
But I gotta do it. I don't want Rosenberg to get fixed up that easy. You know what I'm saying? We got to keep some of this toxic.
D
Don't worry.
A
Problematic, unfortunately.
D
I think you got. You got enough Runway here.
A
Well, I don't think you really want to fix it, because sometimes you got to be. You gotta be honest with yourself. I think when you unravel, it feels good.
D
No, I usually end up feeling like.
A
No, in the moment, it feels good. When you look back at yourself, you're probably like, that looks whack.
D
Like the Jonas one. Last week, when I invited him to my junk multiple times.
C
It wasn't that bad to me. I just didn't.
A
She's been watching for a while. She's a little numb.
D
She's piece of ish styles, though. Most people do not like being invited to junk.
C
Well, I will say I think a lot of people enjoy you taking it there. People deserve it.
A
Sometimes the fact that this is all centered around inviting somebody to your private parts, it's pretty funny to hear your quotables where she's like, some people like it when you take it there. And you're like, ah. Not everybody likes it when you're invited to the junk. I gotta be honest. Both could be true.
D
Both. It depends.
A
If you don't know the person really well and you invite them to your private parts. Not so happy if you know them really well, right? And they're actually attracted to you and say, hey, you want to come to my private parts for a little party?
D
Why not?
A
I'm into that.
D
So, no, it depends. Sometimes I just walk away from feeling like I made an ass of myself. It's. It's it's too much. Because the one thing that he said in that voice note of like, the people don't know you, but, like, the differences about the way I am on air, like, they do. Like, this isn't. I don't really. You guys know me. There's not a huge difference between me off this and on this. I think the good things I have on this, I have. I think the only difference between this and my real life is that when I meet strangers, like, out in the world, I am exceedingly polite. Like, over. I think, slightly too polite. Like a little bit of a bitch. I'm a very polite to strangers person.
A
I mean, that's really. You, too, though, if we're being honest.
D
But I think on this show, this is me. And that's why when I hear things like Straddler, I get offended. I'm like, I'm not that white moderate who's like, hold on now. I don't really want to be for change. That is not remotely who I am. I'm definitive. You have to also understand the room that we're in, too. Like, standing next to Ebro on all these conversations. Y' all know how boring the show would be if every time there's a take that strong, I'm like, right on, brother. Let's go. It's sometimes when you're around someone.
A
Matter of fact, I quit. If you ever said, right on, brother. Let's go show guys. The moment that happens, the show's over. I don't buy one. Nobody want to hear that. I don't want to. I hate that, bro. I hate when. I hate when white people brother me to death. I can't stand it, bro.
D
You know, White people, brother, all a brother.
A
But they brother. It took me a second because I thought they were doing it, like, on some black. Because I'm black, you know? It took me a second to realize no white people do that to each other.
D
No, I. So, But. But by the way, bro. Yeah, white people. But you change it to brother. I think sometimes white people change it to brother for black people.
A
See, I don't like that. Don't do that. Just say bro Normally start regular bro. Don't try to give me an X because now. Because now you can't just act like, I don't see color, brother. What do you do? You just change the whole linguistical approach.
C
He wants a normal bro.
D
No, if you're gonna be white and
A
be like that, you, hey, dude, me, bro. I like to hate somebody's like, yo, dude, what about me?
D
What about if you're just completely overt about how much you say race. See race. And you're like my dad. And you come up to someone just like, hey, you're black. You know, my son is. You're just completely blatant. Like, it's not. My dad doesn't have any illusions of.
A
I think that's too far. If your dad does that, congratulations. You played yourself. Be careful, mj. Somebody gonna smack you.
D
My dad first met his good friend James, who's now been friends for like 30 years. James came into his office. They never met in person. They'd just been friends on the phone for a long time, working on some sort of whatever. And James walked into his office and my dad walked in. He's like, you're black.
C
That's the first thing that came out of his mouth.
D
James was like, yeah. My dad's like, wow. Like, he was so excited that James was black. He already knew that he really liked him, but turns out James was black anyways. I don't know. I'm never going to say, right on, brother. No white people wild.
A
No, white people are crazy.
D
I'm never going to say, right on, brother. But my point is, when you're in a room with people you're close with, I could sit here and argue with Ebro about something, and then if I were in the room with Alan and Don, would argue the exact opposite point to represent what Ebro is saying.
A
Because the position, the room, it's cont.
D
It's. It's contextual.
A
Yo. And it just dawned on me. So my. My. My brother. I'm not even listening to what you're saying. But I appreciate you.
D
No, thank you.
A
My brother is white. My brother, who is white says brother when he's talking. Sometimes when he's talking to me.
D
But you're. You're.
A
But I'm his brother. But it still triggers me. Cuz he's white.
D
No. And your brother's so. Oh my God, no. Do you want to. Do you guys want to see the picture I have of Ebro's brother? Give me a one shot and pass him. Here's a picture of Ebro's brother. So I get.
A
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D
But I call my brother brother sometimes we do like in a lovingly he'll be like yo brother, blah blah blah. Like we do that too.
A
No, but that's how much this race thing is effing my brain.
D
No, you're in bad shape. Let's be honest.
A
You're in a bad, bad place, man. Yo, Laura, what you got?
C
That is so funny. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Let's focus on. All right. Hola. You guys are friends in my head and I often see and hear news or events and I think what are e on them going to say about this? Recently Laura discussed a passing of her friend. Sincere condolences. And mentioned that she Laura is required to get mammograms breast ultrasound semiannually too. I too due to personal history of abnormalities and family history of cancer. I have to do the same. But last year I was diagnosed with breast cancer on the right breast. Presently cancer free.
D
Woohoo.
C
All right. Had a mastectomy, reconstruction, reconstruction procedure and I'm scheduled for a second part of reconstruction process in April. My cancer was not detected in a regular mammogram or breast ultrasound. My proactive doctor suggested a breast MRI and that's how it was found. Some breast tissue and tumors appear the same in images. I highly recommend that if your doctor doesn't bring this third type of test done annually that women with cancer family history advocate for themselves and requested. I caught mine super early. I never had symptoms, never felt sick or had lumps. But their cancer was just wanted to put this out there because besides not getting cancer, early detection detection significantly improves survival rates. I love you all. Keep on keeping on, man. Another thing, man. And the worst part, if your insurance doesn't cover it, then they won't do it.
A
Nope.
C
They were like we don't have a reason to.
D
They that want to wait till as long as humanly possible.
C
Yeah.
D
And see if it's too late.
C
Yeah, basically. But thank you for that information.
D
You got to know these questions to ask. That's why it's so.
C
Yeah, man. A lot of guys, the amount of people that don't know how to advocate for themselves in a doctor's office is huge. It's like people get intimidated.
A
Of course you're in a doctor's office. I mean in your brain. You walk into a place and you think these people know what they're doing. Not taking advantage of you to to run up your insurance and get paid Out. You think they're actually trying to help you, bro?
C
You ask all the questions you want. And if someone talks to you in a way where they, you know, are shooting you down or don't want to answer, ask for somebody else.
A
Hey, Griff. These two minute voice notes, we need a solution.
D
This is too long.
A
No, no, the next One is Ishmael. 2 minutes and 35 seconds.
D
No.
A
Let's see what Ishmael talking about.
C
All right.
A
Yo, ELR family, what up, dog? This is Zay from la.
B
All love and all that.
D
I'm gonna try to make this quick because we got a lot to get into.
B
I got some conspiracy theories.
A
I like it. I'm gonna defend my boy, P. Okay?
D
So I'm gonna need y' all to
B
run me my conspiracy theory music in a moment.
A
But I'm gonna defend my boy Real.
D
You do it.
A
All right?
D
All y', all, people that are out
B
here saying, oh, privilege P this and
D
privilege P that cyborg, all right?
A
Because if the man was any more
B
melanated, we would be celebrating him.
D
Okay? Homeboy's got, like, eight jobs, okay? He's out here trying to provide for his wife and his baby, all right? Okay?
B
He can afford a pediatric this and a heart monitor that and an EKG for the bald head.
D
Like, he can handle all that, all right?
B
Like, you know what? Pete hit a money spread on the gram one time, let them know what you really working with, all right?
C
Okay.
A
The man is out here working, all right? Next time he do, okay?
D
So P hit him, hit him. Money spread on the gram and let him know what you really got on the ground.
A
He wants you to take a stack of money and spread it out.
D
No, no, I'm not gonna do that. All right?
A
You're not gonna just be like. You're not just gonna cosplay your favorite.
D
No, Ebro.
B
I know that you masterminded that whole, you know, travesty that happened on Christmas.
D
I know you did, because you was on your Django ish. You said, oh, y' all gonna get me out of here.
B
I'm gonna burn this down before I leave. And you lit the plantation on fire, and you had John commit that awful offense. I know you master you.
A
It was like mayhem. That's what you was on.
B
And you had John say what he said, and y' all played it up,
D
and then you got up out of there, and that's what you did. I see it.
A
I love it.
D
Applause.
B
Nothing but applause for me because I'm. I'm here for it. No, Burn it down before we get out of here. Listen, you ain't got to say I'm
D
right, but I know I'm right. All right, you're wrong. Let me. Let me explain why he's wrong.
B
Whatever. And John's an idiot and this and
A
that, but I know what you was doing. Nah. Thank you, Ishmael.
C
That guy's pretty funny, though.
D
He's great. I love Ishmael. But don't you think if that was Ebro's great operation, it would have ended with John being fired, not us? I mean, all disrespect, all no disrespect to your plan.
A
Are you guys watching the. The John Journey?
D
What do you mean?
C
What now?
D
Oh, I saw him show up at Apple or something.
B
Right.
C
Yo, I hit up Ebro real quick
D
and just said what I said.
C
You see? I was right. When he needs a job, he's gonna call you.
D
But he didn't ever do anything except leave a dumb comment. Laura.
C
Multiple. Specifically to people who are talking trash about us.
D
I don't think he meant it the way you think.
C
You just said he's an idiot.
A
Did I just say that?
C
No, you said, oh, he's an idiot. Don't. Don't mind it. I was like. I don't. I don't take it that way.
D
Well, listen, it's. Listen, I gave Jack Harlow a pass, okay? I give John a pass. You know what I mean?
A
Well, not only do you give John a pass, you give him passes all the time.
C
Exactly.
A
Like, it's non stop with you guys at the wrestling thing.
C
Don't add extra.
A
Sorry. You guys ready for family matters?
D
Can I just hit this one thing?
A
All right, go. Is it about you?
D
No. It's about the validation addiction, though.
A
Like, this email is interesting.
D
No, but it's about his thing, his situation. He said. I heard. I heard you guys had to write in. As someone who battled sex and validation addiction for so long, I can't say how important and needed is to have a platform like validate me for the male community. Long story short, my marriage of three years ended last March after I had long ignored my addiction issues. Sadly, what I had always thought of as meaningless flirting and attention seeking finally escalated to physical cheating on my wife in December 2024. I even wrote into the gurus about this last year.
A
Wow.
D
Over the past year, I've been on a journey of learning and healing to try to grow and overcome this part of me. Therapy has been a tremendous help, and I've learned that so much of my addiction Is rooted in my own insecurities and how I view myself. I can't speak enough to how much. Doing the little things in life, working out, constantly, being disciplined, taking care of myself has increased my confidence and given me hope of life past this addiction. I've even met a new partner recently. And while it's still early, it's been the healthiest relationship I've had With this new headspace I'm in. By no means will I say I'm in the clear from addiction, But I think so many men will benefit from Peter's new show. I only wish I had something like this before. Will definitely be tuning in and would love to share more. Well, that was the end.
C
I mean, it goes back to him, but.
D
But it's true, man. So many people out there, they don't even realize that that behavior because the texting thing they think is like, I like to flirt. I like to flirt.
C
I'm seeing a lot of great, great responses. And people are very happy that you're putting out this project. A lot of people are doing well.
A
Let's see how happy people actually are if they're actually going to subscribe. Turn their notifications on and get in there. And actually, you said notifications on. I sure did. And subscribe, but because if. Is the love real? If your notifications are off, I like this new angle. Show me.
D
Show me it's real. Turn your notifications.
A
You know what I mean?
D
No, that's. By the way, that's the promo we got. That's the promo with the R B music.
A
Yeah.
D
Like, is it real, girl? The notifications on, though.
A
Exactly.
D
That's the vibe.
A
Is it subscription on? Have you subscribed?
D
Because, like, yeah, when we pop up, you're on. Or not.
A
Or not. Like, when I'm here, do you know I'm here?
D
Yeah. Are you even. Are you even talking? It sounds like an R B record right now.
A
Elr, you know, I mean, the ELR show on Patreon. If you want to spend some dough and get at that extra content. This week we had Nori on. If you missed it, please go get to it. You guys want to get to family? Matt?
D
Oh, hell, yeah.
C
Let's go.
D
No, stop playing the bad one. We have the good one. The man keeps playing the bad one.
C
Don't delete it.
A
It's a rare condition this day and age.
D
It is.
A
It is a rare condition
D
of the grand design.
A
Some people say it's even harder to find. Well, then there must be some.
D
Jack Harlow. Should have an 80s TV theme n. You got to have real soul. You got to have the soul.
A
Soul this guy's feeling he couldn't have done.
D
You hear that, family?
A
Now we're gonna get to mackenzie.
D
Update.
A
I'm sure we got MJ update. But I have an issue with our family here.
C
What happened?
A
I. I had a very big moment this week. It wasn't covered in the rundown.
C
Oh, my God. Yes.
A
I mean, a worldwide affair took place.
D
Yes. Yes.
A
No. But not a peep on this program. I waited all week.
C
Oh, my God. And you know what?
A
And I told myself something that never happens. I got the host. Nobody cared.
C
Yes. Yes, what? Yes, we're a holes for it.
D
The apple thing.
C
Yes.
A
50 years of apple. And I get to kick off the worldwide celebration with a live concert, free concert with Alicia Keys at Grand Central Station. Not even. Not even one people on this program.
D
I have a great response to that, Laura. How was the show?
C
I don't know. I wasn't invited. I didn't even know about it. Actually, I found out because I saw Ebro suited and booted, and I was like, why is he so suited and booted? All glasses are on. Okay, Something good.
D
Wait, you mean the one at Grand Central Station that looks like they maybe rammed 8,000 people in there?
A
Well, no, it was free. Yeah, all those people in there were free. They just walked up and.
D
Now are you gonna say this is also like the super bowl? And if you had asked for two tickets to go to the Apple celebration events, yo, hit Ebro with the butt right now. How did he just do this? What is wrong with him?
C
How come you didn't invite us?
A
There was nothing for you to see.
C
Keys. I love Alicia.
D
She loves Alicia Keys. How many times you go see her musical?
C
Four times. I Hell's Kitchen four times.
D
By the way. By the way, that's a bit too far. I did not know what I actually.
C
That's because I also took girls from in my invasion fest.
A
Yo, you guys should have been there.
D
No, listen.
A
Natalie wasn't even pre promoted. And it was like.
D
Natalie was like, wow. You see what Ebro's doing? Wow, this is crazy. I was like, oh, I didn't even know.
C
This wasn't even pre promoted. He didn't even mention it.
A
It was secret. Listen, Apple Confidential, you know? Listen, well, we work at Apple. You got a secret.
D
We kept it confidential.
A
That's right.
D
That's why we didn't mention it before. Was it dope?
A
No, it was very dope. And I'll be honest. It didn't really hit me until. Of how dope it was until I was about to walk out to actually do introduce her. Like, I didn't even.
C
I was like, annoying.
A
You know what I mean?
D
It's another work event like, oh, we're doing a thing and blah, blah, blah.
A
And I knew it was a big deal for apple, right? It's 50 years.
D
Like, I saw you hanging out with Tim Apple.
A
Yeah, me and Tim Apple was hanging out. Yo. Do you know in Grand Central Station where they used to have central booking and Grand Central Station, They've turned it into like a restaurant.
C
Yeah.
A
Did you guys know that? Haven't been to Grand Central Station. Had no idea. You go up those stairs, you make a left. There's a whole restaurant on that tier at Grand Central Station.
D
Is that where the thing was?
A
Yeah. Then we had the whole thing.
D
Tell you what Ibro was doing that day, though. I'll tell you what, he went out, put. Got a whole new Tom Ford suit, bro.
A
I had that instead that news box closet on fire.
D
Listen, this is. This was Ebro all day. Maybe more than shoulder too. He might have done a full. Like, he might have to hit the.
A
Oh, no, no, no. There was a heel toe. There was a heel toe. There was a heel toe.
D
50 years. Apple head to 50 more. My guys.
A
Let's go. We might make.
C
Been there for 10, yo.
D
That's good.
A
Yo. That's another thing that hit me that day.
D
10.
A
I've been at Apple. A fourth.
C
I don't.
A
A quarter.
C
Ten joints.
A
No, a fifth. A fifth. Sorry, I said fourth. A fifth. A fifth of time. I was thinking 40 years. It's 50th.
D
That's how it works. Yes. Anyways, you've been there for a while.
C
Yeah, it's great.
B
Anyway.
A
And then. But then when I went up there to introduce her, the way they had to step. You're at the top of the steps, you're looking down these steps. And then the whole thing was full of people. That's when it really huge.
D
That was when I thought mad nerves. No. When I saw the crowd size. I don't know how you felt, Laura. That's when the insult kicked in.
A
Yeah.
D
I went, wow, they made room for a lot of people. I have to imagine there were some other people there, some people invited guests. Someone said, hey, honey, you want to come?
A
No. Absolutely.
D
And you didn't even invite your lady.
A
No, because we had to bring the baby. We had to bring.
D
He could have brought.
A
You could have brought everybody. I wasn't sure it's Grand Central Stage. I didn't know what it was.
D
It's not the Super Bowl.
A
I didn't know what it was going to be anyway.
D
It looked up.
C
It looked amazing.
A
And I have a thing bringing my family places when I can't pay attention to them. Like, it feels whack.
C
It's Alicia Keys.
A
No, no. But I like just sitting them over in a corner, like, while I'm over doing something. It just starts to feel weird.
C
Oh, God.
D
I get it.
A
I need to get over it.
C
Okay?
A
It's my fault.
D
All right, so. So that was your family matter. Your family was ignored. Laura, what's going on in your family?
C
So the other day, I was in bed, okay, with my child, and I recorded a video and I sent it to Rosenberg, and Rosenberg was like, oh, my God, this has to go on family matters now. I debated if I'm like, damn, should I share this? Is this too embarrassing? But I. Let's do it. We're all family, right? Can you explain what's going on? Here, watch this. Like, the kids died because they were in the water and the shark bit them. And the family are crying because the. Because the kids died.
A
Why?
C
Because the shark ate them. So that means it had blood everywhere in the sea. So they're crying.
A
Oh, my God.
C
This is a crazy picture you drew. Because sometimes people accidentally do that. Do what? Because sometimes they. They just do stuff and they don't see sharks, but they bite them. Oh, and this is a big wave.
D
The wave then comes and kills more.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Update.
C
Second video. Dying.
D
Because now the shark's dying. Not even the shark. And he.
C
And he has. And he has, like. He has blood in his mouth. It's coming out of the sand.
D
And.
C
And it's because of the shark. He's. He's. He's hurt because he hurt him. Oh, more blood.
D
Okay.
C
And he's burning. And he's burning on fire.
A
Come on, Kenza.
D
Yo. And now he's burning. It's never enough.
A
I need to talk. Y' all need to stop talking to her like a little kid. We gotta have real girl. Oh, my God.
C
First the kids die, then the. Because of the shark.
D
The parents died, too. Or the parents are crying.
C
They're crying.
D
Oh, but the wave came. Yeah, the wave came and wiped out the parents. They're dead. At least the shark, though, doing what
A
he's supposed to do, but eating people. But got hurt and then catches on fire.
D
And now the shark's dead. Everyone is dead.
C
Is coming out of his mouth. I Was like, what is she watching? Seriously, bro, she's not watching anything.
A
No, no. Ask Ricardo what they're watching.
C
Okay. No, the only thing that I get or watched watch is Jurassic Park. That's the only thing.
D
But how much did she make of it through Jurassic park after they didn't finish it?
A
You're missing something. There's something you're missing in here.
C
She loves something. She loves zombies. She loves it. But this is, I'm just like girl. But other people say that their four or five year olds are going through it too. So it's normal.
D
They may hear things in school too. Someone's died, this happened. They hear a news story from a distance. Yeah, I, I, the other day when I ran into them, I, I started talking to Laura and Ricardo and Ken's is down there. And I realized you guys hear like, Netanyahu might be dead. And we start like chatting, and then Ken's is like, what? And I was like, oh, we'll get it. I mean, everything's good. What? Hi, sunshine. Later.
C
Yep, yep.
A
Yeah, clearly. You don't have to hide death from her.
D
Okay? I know. I don't want to give more.
A
No, you gotta lean in now. Now you gotta actually make her understand what it. I mean, you want to know about death? Let's talk about it.
C
It started when, when our dog Peewee died. But.
A
And then, and by the way, maybe that's a real thing. Maybe I made her super curious about death.
C
Yes.
A
She wanted to know why this per. Why this individual is a part of our family is gone forever. She didn't really get to the concept. Now it's like, oh, wait a minute. Like, there's so many different ways people die. They die from waves. They die for catching on fire.
C
Sharks.
A
Sharks eat them. Then the shark catches on fire. There's so many ways people could die. And you know What? Run that 6 million ways to die shoes a lot. That's Ken's new name.
D
Yo, she's 6 million ways to die. That's crazy.
A
You know what? You know, instead of Dia de los muertos is here. Dress her up as Saw. What's the Saw character name? No, Jigsaw. Dress her as a jigsaw. She's out here figuring out ways for people to torture themselves.
D
That is crazy.
A
Yo, Ken's jigsaw.
D
It's so nuts, yo. Nuts. I don't know what you do, though. I mean, you just kind of have
A
to kind of ride it out. You gotta lean in. I mean, not, not lean in and get more morbid. But lean in and kind of, like, just talk with her through it.
C
That's all they do. But I just thought it was really funny because I was like, wow, this is a lot.
A
Nah, it's a lot.
C
It's a lot.
A
Parenting is real, B. Parenting is super real. Rosenberg. Maya bust a bus. A grill.
D
No, no.
A
Fell on the floor. You guys are moving. There's moving plans. There's so much going on.
D
We leave. We move a week from Monday. We move a week from Monday. I think we feel good about it.
C
Okay.
D
No, we do. Making a decision felt good.
A
Packing up is gonna piss you off. What?
D
Packing up.
A
Repacking.
D
Well, yeah, we've been. We've been trying to move stuff around every day. We're selling stuff. We're getting rid of furniture. We're trying not to bring things back. Laura, of course, put Natalie onto this bed. So now Natalie's trying to sell our bed and get a new bed. But it's a good idea. The storage bed would be a good idea.
A
Y' all got some cozy earth sheets in the house.
D
The coat. We're bringing the cozy earth sheets, of course. No, we're feeling good. My parents came as, you know, last week, and, you know, I felt really. I felt really blessed to spend the weekend.
A
I heard your wife made a bowl, a pot of soup so fantastic she couldn't stay awake for three days or something.
D
First of all, I didn't say that necessarily on the show, but here we are. I said, my wife. My wife. My wife is a great cook, right?
C
She is.
D
And she, like. She chefs up, makes things up, improvises. Like, she's really good. And she makes this Yemen Eddie soup. That's. That's fire. I thought my parents would like it, so she made it for my parents.
A
Yeah.
D
But before we had the soup, I also had the idea of us going to look at a few properties, even though we're moving right now. A couple of interesting things came up, and I'm like, let's just see. Maybe. Maybe that'll be our future home one day. I thought it'd be a fun thing to do with the parents. Right. Like, it's just, you know, going to apartments is, like, a thing to do. It's a little bit of an activity. So I should have told Natalie, if you want to cook and do that stuff, just stay home and I'll take my parents. But instead, I brought Natalie, the baby, and my mom, and we all went and looked at apartments. And Natalie after that, because some of the time she's wearing the Baby, that was a lot. Then we get home and she goes,
A
you better carry the baby and slave in the kitchen.
D
Well, I shouldn't care what is going
A
on in this house.
D
I took the baby back, but the damage had been done. And then she goes back and she starts chefing up. And I, I didn't ask her to chef up.
A
So you just want her barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen?
C
Oh, my.
A
That's why, that's what I'm getting from this story. This is out of control.
D
She's, she made the broth from scratch. She's doing the.
A
Now she's making food from scratch. Now. Was this a part of your, Was this in your vows? If you don't, like, you know, chef up from scratch, I'm not going to marry you.
D
We end up at dinner that night with my parents, though, and I just feel bad because we're sitting there, went to a quiet little restaurant in the neighborhood, and we look over and now he's like this exhausted, and I'm like, and I'm like, babe, you look like you're not good.
A
The emails are gonna go crazy.
D
Why?
A
Because they're gonna be like, rosenberg, I thought you were a nice Jewish man. And we found out you're a slave driver.
D
Oh, my.
A
Just barefoot, pregnant, and barely holding her head up at dinner.
D
What are you doing pregnant? She's. I, I, I, listen, I messed up. I messed up, but I gotta, I gotta know her well enough to know that's the key, is to know that she's going to go too hard and say, hey, babe, why don't. But you also don't want to placate swimming Ebro. You know that? Because if you go, I think you might be tired. If you, they're going to be like, what you think you and my wife did admit to me this week, she did admit a quality that she has that she's going to work on changing.
C
Okay.
D
And I asked her for. Because I had a conversation with my therapist. My wife will ask me a question. She'll say, hey, what do you think we should give so and so as a gift?
A
Gift.
D
What she should say and her soul is actually saying is, let's discuss what we're going to give as a gift. But instead. And she admitted this, she's testing me. She wants to see if my answer is going to be stupid. And then she's going to go, no, we're not doing that. We should do blank. And I just said to her, I said to her after, I said, why don't. Instead of you testing me with the question? Just come to me and collaborate and say, hey, I was thinking, can she
A
just make the decision without you, by the way?
D
Well, maybe I guess I need to weigh in on these particular things. They're family matters.
C
Okay, okay, okay. That's fair.
D
So I should weigh in. But when you ask it as a loaded question, you're making me feel away. I know what you're doing now. The second I'm trying to answer, I'm trying to answer correctly. I'm not even trying to give, like, what's my true answer? I'm like, well, I was thinking 250 bucks.
A
Well, I got news. I got news. I firmly believe the reason she puts so much effort in the kitchen is because where she's failing with massages for you.
C
Oh, my God.
A
And so you know what I mean? That's what this is really all about. So now, yes, King.
D
Yes, King.
A
Chill in the kitchen, get to these back massages.
D
That's right. You don't have to cook as much. I finally got one the other day.
A
See, it's because it came up on the show, I bet.
D
Yes. I finally got. I said, Ebro said, you know, Jazz is down to give massages. She feels bad when he even tries to give a massage. And so I did get a little something. It was nice. It wasn't bad. But you know what? You're right. Ebro compensation.
C
Yo, I told Ricardo that my hand's been hurting lately. He came home with a hand massager automatically. Go, massager. But I wanted you to do it.
D
No, you wanted.
C
No, no. You have a machine.
A
Well, and. And Jazz actually left a message for you. She did a response because you were saying that she sounded psychotic about the massage.
D
Did you use the word psych?
A
That's what you said on the air. Sound insane is what you said. She watches the show.
C
Extra sauce.
D
I don't like this.
C
Good morning, everyone. So, yes, I'm listening. And this is exactly what I said it is. First of all, EO gives an amazing massage. So let's just say it's a 30 minute massage. I'm thinking that's typical if you're at home with your partner and you give your partner massage, maybe 30 minutes. I just feel like after he worked all day, I would feel guilty about that because if anyone deserves the massage, it would be Ebro. Right? So also, I'm a spa girl. Like, I love going to the spa. I love getting massages. 90 minutes is ideal. And I would never ask that of Ebro, whether he would do it or not. Just like I said, I would feel guilty. So I just think it's best for when he gets home. He gets to relax. And when I need a massage, I can just go to spa. I'm definitely not the case. I'm just being mindful.
D
I missed it completely. I'm an idiot. I thought the lie was because. Oh, no. She's saying, don't bother. I want to go to the spa. I'm an idiot. I misdiagnosed it.
C
Yo, she asked for a luxurious one too.
D
I didn't know you were doing third.
A
She doesn't even go to a luxurious joint. She goes to a place that she loves. I think she goes an hour and a half for like 40 bucks.
D
Natalie loves the low key nail spa. Go get a massage in the back. Like, she's. It could still be great. 30 minutes. I actually feel different, though. 30. I feel bad for asking for someone for a 30 minute massage.
A
I don't think I've ever given her a 30 minute massage.
C
30 is a lot.
A
But that also says something about our sex life too. She thinks it's actually longer than it actually is. Good news for you. Great news.
D
Now, last thing on the way out on the clothes.
A
Immediately, she thinks I'm laying it down for a third.
D
20 Ebro. Natalie asked if the three of us want to join her on a helicopter ride over New York City.
A
Jazz is not going.
D
No, not Jazz.
A
Oh, I'm down the three.
D
Cause Natalie, she has the room for three, and she thought we could use it as, like, content for us too.
C
But it's no doors.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
D
No doors over New York City at night.
A
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
D
You're down for it. You look a little tiny shook.
A
I am shook, but you do it. I'm dead.
D
All right, all right, all right. We'll do it. Film it, get some content.
A
What time is this?
C
It's a night flight.
A
So that be like, yo, maybe we go, what day of the week?
D
I don't know. We'll figure it out.
A
Maybe we go have weight restrictions.
C
Here we go, here we go.
A
I'm looking for all the ways to get out.
C
Look, here we go, here we go.
A
Yo, subscribe. Do the notification thing.
D
Have a good weekend.
A
If you're watching this later, get all the algorithm popping stuff. We appreciate y'.
B
All.
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Don't call it a podcast.
C
This is the powerful new single from Daughtry. It's called Antidote.
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by it's hard to watch the poison
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take control
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This episode is a classic blend of the show’s signature: sharp cultural commentary, raw conversations about social justice, direct replies to listeners, and the warmth (and hilarity) of family storytelling. Anchored by a powerful interview with DJ Quicksilva and lawyer Billy Murphy about the police killing of “Big Sam,” the show also explodes with lighter banter on family life, listener feedback, and community shoutouts, all soldered together by the trio’s chemistry and astute, honest takes.
Ebro’s Major Moment: Recap of hosting Apple’s 50th anniversary celebration with Alicia Keys at Grand Central (57:40).
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Massage Discourse:
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This episode balances heavy social justice advocacy (“Justice for Big Sam”), transparent debate on urban politics and police reform, the personal and universal in “Family Matters,” plus relatable advice and big laughs. The hosts create space for both mourning and joy, challenge official narratives, and remind listeners: community is both action and conversation.
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