64.) Usher & Yung Miami Speak On Diddy + Rosenberg Speaks On Tom Brady (3/26/26)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show – Episode 64: Usher & Yung Miami Speak on Diddy + Rosenberg on Tom Brady (3/26/26)

Date: March 27, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg
Notable Guest Contributions: Charlemagne Tha God
Platform: YouTube & podcast

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Episode Overview

This episode blends signature humor, cultural critique, music, and open debate. The hosts address recent controversies involving Diddy through the lens of public comments from Usher and Young Miami. There is a candid discussion of how celebrities navigate allegations and public opinion, plus a lively breakdown of Rosenberg’s recent viral comments about Tom Brady and pro wrestling. The show also features stories about airport travel privileges, social commentary on desensitization to abuse, and listener Q&A.

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Key Discussion Points

1. Airport Chaos & Travel Privileges

[04:18]-[12:59]

• Ebro shares his post-ICE raid airport experience, noting the "overhype" of chaos at airports:
  • Surprised to see Black men with dreadlocks as ICE agents at Newark.
  • Comments on the tragic irony: “These black men… you could be working for a private security agency… You guys could be working, making a lot more money, working for organizations that need security… [ICE agents] signed up to do this work... that people are really disgusted by for pennies, for nickels.” — Ebro, [04:50].
• Humorous banter about their various travel privileges (Global Services, Clear, PreCheck) and the perception of being "travel snobs."
  • “I have global entry and I have clear and TSA PreCheck. I was like a snob just to try to avoid the lines.” — Laura, [07:12].
• Rosenberg pokes fun at Ebro’s mysterious "Global Services":
  • “Ebro has a privilege that's so high... you basically have to know Tim Apple. That's basically the only way.” — Charlemagne, [07:40].

2. Government, Media & Societal Disarray

[13:45]-[21:39]

• Hosts dissect Trump’s confusing public statements regarding Iran:
  • “At 12:03pm, President Trump told reporters he wanted a ceasefire with Iran. At 12:05, he declared victory. At 12:07, he announced he was sending Marines...” — News Reporter, [18:06].
  • Ebro summarizes: “Not only does he sound like a clown, a buffoon, an idiot... the other side is not playing along... this is very unserious... we can't trust our government at all.” — Ebro, [16:52].
• Reflection on the absurdities in U.S. culture, e.g., “Thing” from Addams Family throwing out the first pitch at the baseball season opener:
  • “We're not serious people. We don't deserve serious things. We're goofballs who were just fed things.” — Charlemagne, [21:27].

3. Rosenberg vs. Tom Brady & the WWE

[22:15]-[24:52]

• Rosenberg surfaces after viral backlash for saying Tom Brady isn’t tough enough for pro wrestling:
  • “The point I was making is, as someone who loves wrestling, if some outsider is going to get involved and you literally use the word fake, they need to get punched in the face on TV.” — Rosenberg, [23:22].
  • Ebro and Charlemagne riff: “If you see what it is... get in the squared circle... Take this clothesline, daddy.” — Ebro, [24:05].
• Discussion about celebrity drive and validation-seeking:
  • “You have seven Super Bowls. You are handsome as the day is long. You've done it all. You cannot stop doing things and collecting bags and running around.” — Charlemagne, [25:49].

4. On Diddy: Usher & Young Miami Speak Out

[28:24]-[39:46]

Usher’s Forbes Interview

[28:24]-[30:51]

• Usher’s quote:
  • “I think certain people are prosecuted and maybe not recognized for the greatness that they offer. I don't have anything negative to say about Sean Combs. My experience was not what the world has seen or how he's been, you know, misrepresented.” — Usher (via Laura), [28:59].
• The group debates the problematic use of "misrepresented" given video evidence and wide reports.
  • “To say, the way the world is misrepresenting him. Sir, I'm sure you saw the video. We all saw the video.” — Laura, [29:04].

Young Miami Speaks with Charlemagne

[31:33]-[36:09]

• Young Miami addresses her support for Diddy and the challenge of public scrutiny:
  • “If I felt like that person was a change[d]... it was a different experience. So that's why I wrote a letter.” — Young Miami, [31:47].
• The hosts analyze the complication of judging relationships solely on personal experience vs. the public record.
  • “How do you reconcile supporting someone publicly when the court of public opinion is saying something completely different?” — Ebro, [32:37].
  • “Did you see the video of her and of him and Cassie, did that scare you?...The video with Cassie, there's no judgment call to be made.” — Charlemagne, [35:11].

Broader Social Reflection

[39:04]-[46:58]

• Laura expresses concern over cultural desensitization toward abuse and violence:
  • “Rape, abuse, physical abuse, abuse against children. All of that is just thrown out like it's nothing... and it really bothers me how people just don't value... violence against women, and people don't care about victims at all.” — Laura, [39:46].
• Conversation shifts to societal origins of this attitude, sexualization of minors in U.S. media, and normalization of certain taboos (including a dialogue about online pornography's focus on taboo familial relationships).

5. Listener Advice & Relationship Talk: The "Custodial Dad" Q&A

[52:56]-[63:08]

• A listener, a single father of two teenage boys, seeks advice on dating as a custodial parent.
  • Rosenberg jokes: “Stop using the word custodial so much, please. It's not in everybody's vocabulary. Are they your kids or you adopted somebody?” — Rosenberg, [57:12].
  • The hosts suggest not leading with heavy info about parenthood; instead, find a social pace that balances his responsibilities and adult companionship.
  • “Are you ready to date and be a person having fun with another adult, not just a parent?” — Ebro, [61:28].
  • “You don't need to lead with it constantly... Maybe he's bringing up what a role would look like too early when [women] want to just have fun.” — Rosenberg, [59:44].

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Ebro on airport ICE agents:
  “You guys could be working for a private security agency… You guys look very healthy and in shape… If you don't want to be a police officer… right now, the military and police officers are seen in much higher regard than we look at ICE agents for sure.” [04:50]

• Charlemagne on American unseriousness:
  “We're not serious people. We don't deserve serious things. We're goofballs who were just fed things.” [21:27]

• Laura on society’s response to abuse:
  “People just don't care. They're like, oh, wow, that sucks. Next.” [39:46]

• On Diddy's reputation:
  “The documentaries, the accusers, the video, all of it... there's just a lot of evidence.” — Ebro, [29:59]

• On dating as a single parent:
  “Are you ready to be a person that is having fun with another adult? That it doesn't have anything to do with your parenting.” — Ebro, [61:28]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:00–01:29: Ads, show start (skipped in summary)
• 04:18–12:59: Airport privilege, ICE agents, TSA chaos
• 13:45–21:39: Trump’s Iran comments, unseriousness in US politics & culture
• 22:15–24:52: Rosenberg/Brady/WWE controversy
• 28:24–39:46: Usher and Young Miami on Diddy abuse allegations, cultural reckoning
• 39:04–46:58: Abuse, desensitization, US cultural context
• 52:56–63:08: Listener advice: single parent dating struggles
• 63:08–End: Merch updates, Patreon plug, show close

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Tone & Style

The hosts balance serious cultural critique with signature playfulness and joking asides. They move fluidly between pop culture, personal stories, social critique, and listener engagement, maintaining an unfiltered conversational style.

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For New Listeners

This episode is a quintessential sample of The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show: real talk on music, fame, and society; humor and debate; and genuine audience connection. Whether you're catching up on Diddy’s controversy, wondering about Rosenberg’s latest viral moment, or seeking advice as a single parent, this episode offers perspective, laughs, and direct truths.

Transcript

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[Ebro Darden]

Just don't call it a podcast. Oh, Ebro. Laura Rosenberg, the show. Good morning, everyone. I am currently in LA doing my Apple work, getting ready for Versus, which will be tonight. Tank and Tyrese live from our LA studios. Laura Rosenberg holding it down beautifully yesterday. I did tune in yesterday, though. Great show with Styles P and Eric from Two Jews and Three Black Dudes.

[Charlemagne]

I thought they were. I thought they were really good guests for the time they. They did. They did a great job.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I enjoyed them, too.

[Ebro Darden]

Listen, any. Any. Any guests that we have that are willing to do a whole show and sit in with our shenanigans are great guests. So we appreciate anybody who. And by the way, would you guys like to, like, have just, like, an open call, you know what I'm saying? When Ebro's on the road or Rosenberg's on the road or Laura's on the road. Anybody want to sit in?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, I think we should develop, like, a little list of favorites.

[Ebro Darden]

That was a trap. Laura, wait, hold on, hold on.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Chat.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Feel free to. No, no, no, no. I'M with you. Feel free to suggest some people. I like it. I think it's fun.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, no, Laura, the reason I say it was a trap was because I threw it out there hoping somebody would go, hell, no, don't do that, because we're going to have mad randos on the show. Oh, oh.

[Charlemagne]

If we just took an open call and whoever wants.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, this is an open call. Then we're. Not only that, then we're going to have enemies because we're going to. People are going to know, like, yo, you don't. You have people fill in all the time when you guys are on the road and we're going to be telling people. Nah, nah, nah, not everybody. Oh, my God. Nah. The schedule. The schedule's full right now. Call you in 2027.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Sorry, we already booked. We already booked somewhere. Sorry.

[Charlemagne]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

But no, it is crazy.

[Charlemagne]

It is.

[Ebro Darden]

It's.

[Charlemagne]

Yo, I'll tell you one thing that's good. I don't want to talk out of school, so I won't say anything. I'll just say this. They've done a lot of press this week, so they let me say this generically. They've seen different studios.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, here we go.

[Charlemagne]

They've seen different studios. Okay, and what'd they say?

[Ebro Darden]

Ours was trash?

[Charlemagne]

No, no, I'm just gonna say they felt, you know, this joint right here was.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, they felt like we put something together, like a little.

[Charlemagne]

Yeah, yeah, a little. You know what I'm saying?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Love.

[Ebro Darden]

What?

[Laura Rosenberg]

For our situation.

[Ebro Darden]

Let me. Now, now, is that graded on a curve? Because there's a lot of love in that relationship. They might have been gassing us, though. Let's keep it a honey.

[Charlemagne]

Well, no, I. I think if anything, the curve was created by everything else they've seen. You know what I'm saying?

[Ebro Darden]

All right, well, listen, we're just glad. We're glad that we have phenomenal FS Friends of the show, which, remember tomorrow's FAT Friday. Family Friday. So get your emails in E. La Rosenberg at Gmail. Yeah, Fart Friday for some and then. Oh, I have a special video I forgot. Oh, it was a special Friday video. Let me see if I can find it.

[Charlemagne]

Damn.

[Ebro Darden]

Maybe I have to hold it for a week. But at any rate, my first time at the airport, guys, since all of the ICE and all of the, the, The. The scary chaos.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay, how to go talk to us?

[Ebro Darden]

I. I walk into the airport and I see two black men with dreads, with locks as ICE agents at Newark Airport. Hit the button.

[Charlemagne]

Yo, what in the Congratulations, you played yourself.

[Ebro Darden]

And I know there's people, oh, they got families to feed. They got this dude, whatever, whatever. These black men and most of even the men that you see in ICE and women, you guys could be working for a private security agency. You guys look very healthy and in shape. You guys could be working, making a lot more money, working for organizations that need security or some sort of something. If you don't want to be a police officer, you don't even want to be in the military, you know what I mean? Which definitely right now, the military and. And police officers are seen in much higher regard than we look at ICE agents for sure. So that means. That means you signed up to do this work and work for this current government and do the things that people are really disgusted by for pennies, for nickels. And it's. It's sad. It's sad to see. And I started to be one of those people who walk into the ice, walk into the airport, my ICE agents while I'm walking through. But I ain't want that smoke either. So you know what I'm saying? You know what I mean? I let me go ahead and do my little dance to this airport, and you know what I'm saying? Keep it moving before they get me confused and start yanking my passport and yanking my privileged travel situation, you know what I'm saying? Put my dancing music on. I got in that airport with the polite voice on, you know what I'm saying? I was in there like, how's everybody doing?

[Charlemagne]

Thank you for your service.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, I got, I got.

[Charlemagne]

Thank you for your show.

[Ebro Darden]

Definitely didn't. Definitely. But by the way, it was overhyped. There was. There was. From what I saw on the outside of security, when you entered Newark Airport, there was four dudes not even down near security. Like, they were like, now. I don't know what baggage claim looked like. I haven't been through a baggage claim situation on the New York side. I did it on the LA side. LA was quiet as a mouse. Like, it's quiet. So I'll see what LA check in is like when I'm on my way back later on today. But. But anyway, I. As Rosenberg makes fun of me. I travel very privileged. I have something on United is called Global Services. I travel a lot to all.

[Charlemagne]

To everyone in the El army who has ever sent me a message talking about Rosenberg's privilege because he goes to the doctor once a year.

[Ebro Darden]

I need you to pay attention.

[Charlemagne]

Service, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, my family calls me a snobby, a travel Snob. Because I have global entry and I have clear and I have TSA PreCheck. I was like a snob just to

[Charlemagne]

try to avoid the lines because you

[Ebro Darden]

got money to do it. You got money to do it. Maybe they don't have money or time to do it. That's why. That's why it's your snob.

[Charlemagne]

Just so everyone knows.

[Ebro Darden]

Listen, listen.

[Charlemagne]

No, listen.

[Ebro Darden]

I struggled and strived. I struggle and strive, flying back and forth across the country for millions of miles, you know what I'm saying? To get to. To get to this level.

[Charlemagne]

No, you didn't. No, you didn't. Yes, you put in your work. Yes. You earned it. We're all happy for you. Ebro has a privilege that's so high that he doesn't even know. No one knows how you get it. He doesn't even know how you get it. You basically have to be no Tim Apple. That's basically the only way we ask him.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He's like, I don't know. I just kind of have.

[Charlemagne]

No. He literally doesn't know, though. They started the job and this is how you travel.

[Ebro Darden]

No, but. But it's special. It's. Listening. There was a. There was a Sikh man who also had it with me. When you are of a marginalized group and you have these special privileges, it feels different. You know what I'm saying? And let me tell you how different it got. So I walked through the global services little office, and you get on a little private elevator and you go down, but you still gotta secure.

[Charlemagne]

It's all. It's crazy what he's doing.

[Ebro Darden]

And so. No, but wait. But wait. But hold up. And so as I'm coming off the elevator, the. I also have something called touchless id. Are you guys familiar with.

[Charlemagne]

I didn't enroll in it. I was. I was. I was feeling very Shawnee culture. I didn't want to enlist.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Bro, you're already.

[Ebro Darden]

So I. I got to. I got to. Once they got ta. They got all my. All my biometrics already. So I. I did the touches ID a while ago, whenever they offered. I think it was during COVID It started.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Uhhuh.

[Ebro Darden]

And so a man is pushing an older white woman in a wheelchair, and her older white husband is with her on his cane.

[Charlemagne]

Wow. Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

I walk out of the elevator, and he's like, one second. And comes to me, leaves them in the hallway. I was like, no, sir, I'm good. I can. I can handle it myself. He's like, no, no, no, no. I need to take care of this and. And make sure I get escorted up past everyone to the thing so I can get expedited through.

[Charlemagne]

Oh, my God.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm saying the old man on the can fall over. Yeah, but it was all. It was all white people, and I don't know where they stood on issues of the past, so you know what I'm saying? They got a whole lot. Yo, I don't know where y' all stand on issues of the past, y'.

[Podcast Host]

All.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, what was y' all really doing out here?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo? Crazy.

[Charlemagne]

So.

[Ebro Darden]

So y' all gotta stand in that hallway for a second. But I tried to do the nice thing, though. I tried to do the nice thing, and I was like, no, no, no, stay. You know, like. But he wanted to come in and escort the. God, you know what I mean?

[Charlemagne]

So crazy, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I remember when I got global entries, because Ebro and Kaz used to want. When we used to travel a lot, they used to try to leave me behind. They were like, oh, well, yeah, on your own. We got.

[Charlemagne]

I was like, yeah, when you get back.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. But now, you know, then I got it. I was like. One time, Cast one tried to leave me, and I was like, got it too, punk.

[Charlemagne]

I'm out, by the way, Global.

[Ebro Darden]

When. I'm gonna tell you something. When you're in these airports, enough, guys. When you're in these airports enough. And you guys know we talked about this. I'm a convenience fee guy.

[Charlemagne]

Oh, you love convenience.

[Ebro Darden]

There's a convenience. I'm paying the fee. Well, how much does it cost? You know what I'm saying? Because I'm telling you, me walking slow, sitting down, moving slow, not stressed. You know what I'm saying? Moving fast. I pay for it. If it's a great. If it comes with. If it's a great service, I'm paying. I got all the airport things clear. TSA, PreCheck, all of it. Name a thing, Name it.

[Charlemagne]

And you don't even need it, frankly, because you basically just do these United flights where your global services. Anyway, facts.

[Ebro Darden]

However, when I show up to airports that aren't United, the global services thing is a little tricky. They don't really have the special elevator with the special access, right?

[Charlemagne]

So you're. You're regular adjacent.

[Ebro Darden]

So then I may need clear or I may need touchless id. I gotta have a. Listen, man. I'm like Batman at the airport. I gotta have all the tools in my tool belt, right?

[Charlemagne]

You gotta have the grapple hook. You know, the little.

[Ebro Darden]

By the way, I get to security to Put my bag through. No one is there, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

What?

[Charlemagne]

And this was regular. Pre check security.

[Ebro Darden]

This is regular? Yeah, Pre check security, Clear security, the whole thing. Nobody was there. Like literally I walked.

[Charlemagne]

What time of day we talking?

[Ebro Darden]

One other person. This was one o'. Clock.

[Charlemagne]

All right.

[Ebro Darden]

And I got to the. And normally I would only get to the airport with like an hour to go because I can move through the airport pretty fast, man. I got there like two hours early thinking it was going to be chaotic. I didn't know what to expect.

[Charlemagne]

Light, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

I like nothing. I. Even the, the lady at the, you know, where you put the bags on the conveyor belt. I said to her, I said, this is not as advertised. It is quiet in here. And she, super serious, was like, well, we have our moments. So there was a little level of intensity that I'm not accustomed to at Newark Airport because I go through there a lot and it's usually very friendly and very nice. There was a level of intention in

[Charlemagne]

attitude, but it was quiet in terms of crowd.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes. Traffic. Yes, yes. And I did see some bunched up things, but I've seen worse. And by the way, what is this? This is, this was, this was Tuesday. So a Tuesday at 12 o'. Clock. You know, maybe the evenings and the mornings are a little bit more hectic. Maybe the weekends are. Sundays are really crazy. But just to let y' all know, so far all the news we're seeing felt overhyped. I even went and looked at some of the other check in areas. There was lines, but it wasn't chaotic at all. At least at this terminal at this time.

[Charlemagne]

So when I've been watching, I've been looking at the updates of like different airports and what the times have been all week. It's interesting. A lot of them look fine and then it's like, Houston's a nightmare at times, Atlanta's a nightmare at times, New Orleans. There's like random ones that are bad, but then a lot I just, it. We don't know whose funding is getting affected. That's the hard part. But I was listening to an interview yesterday on NPR with the head of TSA under Obama who is saying his concern is this period could have long term effects on TSA in terms of recruitment and being able to get people to do these jobs with when they absolutely. Wait a second. They're going to be times when I don't get paid.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlemagne]

So. Well, look, I've always post 9, 11. Osama bin Laden laughed all the way to his grave about how he ruined travel in the US and made it really annoying. And will this just be another step to us being, like, you know, terrible?

[Ebro Darden]

Speaking of 911 on Ebro's algo. Oh, I didn't even bring. I didn't even bring this clip in because it was too controversial. But I'll send it to you guys privately. But the rest of y', all, maybe you look it up. There's been These documents, these 911 documents, where people are saying, release the 911 files, where they are now saying that the individuals involved in the plane crashes that actually flew the planes in were spies. They weren't actually citizens of Saudi Arabia.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Spies from where?

[Ebro Darden]

Israel? Mossad?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, God.

[Charlemagne]

All right.

[Ebro Darden]

It's getting crazier and crazier. Speaking of, can we now watch Trump talk about his negotiations with Iran? This was labeled what the actual F when it was sent to our group chat. Rosenberg, would you like to describe.

[Charlemagne]

This is Trump a couple of days ago, when he was going back and forth about whether the war is ending or starting or pausing, just talking about a gift that he received from Iran.

[Trump (clip)]

Because they're going to make a deal. They're going to make a deal. They did something yesterday that was amazing, actually. They gave us a present, and the president arrived today, and it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. And I'm not going to tell you what that president is, but it was a very significant prize, and they gave it to us, and they said they were going to give it. So that meant one thing to me. We're dealing with the right people. No, it wasn't nuclear related. It was oil and gas related. And it was a very nice thing they did. But what it showed me is that we're dealing with the right people. Because, you know, you don't know, because the leadership was.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, shut up. Just hit him with the F. Out of here. Shut up. What are you talking about? Shut up. And by the way, who wrote your script? You're talking like you're in a movie. I mean, we're talking to the right people. I mean, it means, you know, we got to. Bro, shut up. You're a clown.

[Charlemagne]

I can't believe one of the things that makes Trump so unique is his ability to just say the quiet part out loud. So we're being bribed. And what we wanted to do was push people around and get to the point where whoever we put in power there would just give us whatever we want.

[Ebro Darden]

And we see that these people are

[Charlemagne]

giving us what we want.

[Ebro Darden]

Iran. Iran is Saying, we haven't talked to you, we're not talking to you.

[Charlemagne]

But they sound like a plan.

[Ebro Darden]

Yesterday, not only does he sound like a clown, a buffoon, an idiot, the other side is not playing along with whatever the script is. Matter of fact, he's changing everything he's saying all the time to keep us spiraling and spinning. Like we were saying the other day, this is very unserious. I mean, it's very serious what's going on because bombs are being dropped, but it's very unserious because we can't trust our government at all. We can't trust the news outlets at all. So we end up going on Instagram and, and shout out to Hassan Piker, who I think is a, a reliable source to some degree. He's got a lot of followers and, and he seems to be covering things in the right way. When you look at his comments here he is covering all the different things that Trump said in the contradicting things he said the other day.

[Charlemagne]

Hassan Piker, yes. He's a very big left leftist. Social media and YouTube, dude, I gotta check him out. You never heard of Hasan Piker? Yo, he's gigantic.

[Ebro Darden]

The biggest left, million followers.

[Charlemagne]

Yeah, he's the biggest left wing personality that there is, essentially.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay, I need to check him out.

[News Reporter]

At 12:03pm, President Trump told reporters he wanted a ceasefire with Iran. At 12:05, he declared victory. At 12:07, he announced he was sending Marines. At 12:08, he said no boots on the ground.

[Charlemagne]

How do you do that in 66?

[News Reporter]

At 12:11, he said he did not want a ceasefire. At 12:16, he declared victory again. At 12:17, he asked for a ceasefire. At 12:23, he told NATO they were cowards. At 12:29, he said Iran was begging for a ceasefire. At 12:31, he said everything was perfect. At 12:36, he said $500 oil was a good. At 12:37, he demanded Iran open the Hormuz. At 12:39, he said Hormuz was never closed. At 12:41, he said the US was not at war with Iran. At 12:42, he declared victory in Iran.

[Ebro Darden]

Did you hear the next thing though? He's. There's. Actually, we've had, we've had some development since this, where now it appears that

[Charlemagne]

we may jointly operate Hormuz.

[News Reporter]

Well, sorry, you're wrong. Pentagon ways, development, deployment of air troops,

[Trump (clip)]

Iran,

[Laura Rosenberg]

their sound effects, you see what I'm saying?

[Charlemagne]

That, that, that sound effect is like the biggest Internet sound effect. Right?

[Ebro Darden]

People love that on the Internet. But you see what I'm saying? You can't. How do you take this serious? I know this is unserious. This is not.

[Charlemagne]

It's so ridiculous.

[Ebro Darden]

It's.

[Charlemagne]

It's.

[Ebro Darden]

It's sad, it's embarrassing. But it's also expected when you have a population that would vote for a person with all. If you look at the resume of Donald Trump and all of the things that we were told about this person that we've been hooting and hollering about on our platforms for 10 years, 10 years, Rosenberg, 10 years we've been talking about how much of a clown this person is, and we end up here.

[Charlemagne]

And it trickles down. I was going to get into this yesterday, but I got distracted. But this. This unseriousness trickles down across our society. And now you see all of these things that are perfect for the time. For example, last night, the Major League Baseball season kicked off. The Yankees played the Giants in San Francisco on Netflix. Ebro. Do you know who threw out the first pitch?

[Ebro Darden]

I don't.

[Charlemagne]

Thing from Adam's family throughout the first pitch. Fah. Where's the drop? That is what happened. Why? Because the game was on Netflix. And it's not enough that Netflix does these integrations, but when they do the integrations, it's like, cool. We now have baseball. So you know what we need to do? We need to take Wednesday and smash it into the game. Like, isn't Wednesday popular enough? Can't you just have baseball.

[Ebro Darden]

No.

[Charlemagne]

And have Wednesday and.

[Ebro Darden]

Wait, how did you tie this to. To we're not serious. Well, come on.

[Charlemagne]

I mean, listen, I'm dead.

[Ebro Darden]

School is doing the Addams Family musical this year, so maybe this stuff is really, really popular.

[Charlemagne]

It is popular.

[Ebro Darden]

And you don't have to have just doing something for the kids on opening day.

[Charlemagne]

You don't have to have a fake hand throwing out the faith the first pitch of the MLB season. We're not serious people. We don't deserve serious things. We're goofballs who were just fed things. Look, no, they're morons.

[Ebro Darden]

Let's be fair here. Let's be fair. Tying that into what our expectations are of the federal government dropping bombs and killing people around the world and being able to clearly articulate to the population that is feeling uneasy and unsafe and about what may happen on our own soil or about the reasons we're even engaged in this in the first place is a far stretch from, like, you know, opening day at Major League. I get it. It is unserious time. I get it. But at the same time, you're out here seriously beefing with Tom Brady.

[Charlemagne]

Well, listen, I don't run the country, all right?

[Ebro Darden]

And that's my point. That's a. You listen. I listen. I love wwe and I love what it's done for your life, and I love that they support our program. The amount of people I saw in a post angry at you for questioning Tom Brady's physicality as he may be heading to some WWE thing and taking you serious and then also going at you saying, well, what are you going to do? F boy, yo, you. You're not tougher than to. And really going at you like, this is Bizar World.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Look at this. I didn't see.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, it's wrestling. It's sports entertainment. Listen, it's supposed to.

[Charlemagne]

Here's what happened, Laura. Long story short, Tom Brady's been doing this thing with Logan Paul that was leading up to the flag football game, and in doing so, he was talking trash about wrestling. Okay, Right. But in his talking trash, he literally said, like, ah, wrestling's cute, blah, blah, blah. But, like, I'm from the NFL. It's real, it's not fake. My. I went on my podcast and said, I don't know the business of if WWE is getting into business with Tom Brady or not. I'm not privy to those conversations. Okay, it certainly feels that way, but I don't know. The point I was making is, as someone who loves wrestling, if some outsider is going to get involved and you literally use the word fake, they need to get punched in the face on tv. That's how this whole thing is supposed to work. Right? And if you don't do that, you're just allowing people to talk trash about this whole thing and then they get away from it. All right, well, I guess that's what it is then.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. All right, at least get body slammed on a table.

[Charlemagne]

That's it.

[Ebro Darden]

Lay on that mat and let somebody come off the top rope on you. Tom Brady, you talking greasy. If you see what it is. You know what I'm saying? Get in the squared circle.

[Charlemagne]

That's right. Dance.

[Ebro Darden]

Get a. Take this clothesline, daddy.

[Charlemagne]

That's it.

[Ebro Darden]

Because when. Listen, when you used to drop back, they was throwing a flag. If somebody tripped and stumbled next to your shoelace. Tom Brady.

[Charlemagne]

That's the funniest part about him acting tough about the real things he did. Tom Brady. The reason Tom Brady was able to play till he was 46 years old is the last 10 years of his career. When anyone Got near the backfield, he would just lay on the ground. Literally. He would just go down to avoid being tackled. So then to come out and say these nasty words. My point was someone needs to touch Tom Brady. But they. The comments don't understand.

[Ebro Darden]

None of this should be taken serious. It goes back to things being unserious and people take unserious things seriously. And then serious things are so unserious, we don't know which way is up. That's what I'm saying.

[Charlemagne]

We're lost.

[Ebro Darden]

So hopefully that's making sense because Tom Brady talking greasy about wrestling is the way it should go. And then if they are in business with Tom Brady, him using the word that triggers all wrestling fans, which is fake. He gets in the ring and he. And, and, and hacksaw Jim Duggan goes upside his head.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Wow.

[Ebro Darden]

With a two by four.

[Charlemagne]

That would be interesting if they brought Duggan back to do that. But you never know.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I'm saying?

[Charlemagne]

I see you.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I'm saying? Tom Brady, let me see you lock into a turnbuckle like George the Animal steel and rip the stuffing out.

[Charlemagne]

Yo, let me tell you something about y'. All. Tell you something about Tom Brady, though. Tom Brady loves himself a check boy. Man.

[Ebro Darden]

Listen, he can't stop. He can't stop.

[Charlemagne]

No, you don't stop.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo. Listen, he needs to be on the Validate Me podcast. No Ebro, how much validation do you need, bro?

[Laura Rosenberg]

He just won't sit down.

[Ebro Darden]

You won't stop, bro.

[Charlemagne]

You have seven Super Bowls. You are handsome as the day is long. You've done it all. You cannot stop doing things and collecting bags and running around like the other people of his ilk. Do you see them running like is Serena every day chasing a bag here, chasing a bag there? I'm trying to think of the people

[Ebro Darden]

on this level, Gretzky, behind the scenes. Let me be fair, though. Let's be fair.

[Charlemagne]

That's what it seems like the most little quick Tri Zepatide commercial.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's about it.

[Charlemagne]

That's a commercial, though.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, Laura, yes, let's be fair. Tom Brady, as. As Rosenberg said, is probably one of the most famous football players and people on earth. Okay, so. So anything that he does is going to get a lot of coverage. Whereas Serena, very famous, right? She might not be as loud with her other business endeavors. Tom Brady literally makes himself the face of a lot of his business endeavors where Serena and other famous athletes, while they, I'm sure they're doing business and doing a lot of things. They don't make themselves the face.

[Charlemagne]

He just can't stop, bro. Yeah, Tom can't stop.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, but he's getting a lot. I. I'll tell you. I'll be honest. You know, his. His Raiders ownership has been kind of quiet. He keeps that kind low.

[Charlemagne]

The Raiders are good at keeping things quiet, you know, when you're that bad.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, because they suck.

[Charlemagne]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Because everything's quiet.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's why.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I mean?

[Charlemagne]

Listen, but eo. Next year, y' all will have Fernando Mendoza, the number one pick in the draft.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know. I don't know what you're talking about. It means nothing you have if you don't have coaching. I. I hate the number one pick in the draft for terrible teams. Like, it's like the biggest setup for often. Not always, but often for football. In football and in basketball, where it's like, we're gonna send the best player in the country to the worst place, and the reason they're the worst place is because they don't have a culture or coaches to actually develop anything. So we're just gonna ruin this.

[Charlemagne]

But it's not always like this. Some places, just not down year.

[Ebro Darden]

But the Raiders, bro, A lot, though. How often is it like that?

[Charlemagne]

You know, it's fair. Jacksonville, you know, you've had the Jacksonvilles, the.

[Ebro Darden]

The.

[Charlemagne]

The Raiders, the Clevelands, where it happens kind of over and over again. You're like, damn, are y' all ever going to get this together ever?

[Ebro Darden]

Never.

[Charlemagne]

And to your point, the answer is no.

[Ebro Darden]

The answer is they're not. Because they stuck suck, and the culture sucks. Laura, you ready for the rundown?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, let's do it.

[Ebro Darden]

Let's go.

[Charlemagne]

Heavy.

[Ebro Darden]

But we still caught up. Life still flashing.

[Charlemagne]

We don't slow up.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So this was an interesting interview, guys. Usher sat down with Jabari Young for Forbes, right? It's called the Enterprise Zone. And he, you know, reflected on Diddy's legacy and the impact he's had on culture. But there's a quote that people are really, like, scratching their heads over. He said, I think certain people are prosecuted and maybe not recognized for the greatness that they offer. I don't have anything negative to say about Sean Combs. My experience was not what the world has seen or how he's been, you know, misrepresented.

[Charlemagne]

Ooh, that's an interesting word choice.

[Ebro Darden]

That's the bad word, right?

[Charlemagne]

That was the word you didn't need to use. Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right. Because it's okay if you didn't have certain Experiences. But to say, the way the world is misrepresenting him. Sir, I'm sure you saw the video. We all saw the video.

[Charlemagne]

So did he get into any more specifics?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes, there's more, but that was the one, the controversial piece that was moving around.

[Charlemagne]

But do we know if he addressed the like, did anyone push back and say, well, that video represents him a certain way? My guess is there wasn't a lot of pushback here.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't think so.

[Charlemagne]

Listen, I get. You have every right. And, you know, we had this experience even where people wanted us to feel a certain way about Diddy. And while I certainly feel a lot of the things the public feels about Diddy, I have to be honest that my experience with him is not what you would have seen in the documentaries. Right. Like, I've been very open about that. So I cannot get on here and tell you Diddy is a monster.

[Ebro Darden]

The documentaries, the accusers, the video, all of it, even if you don't believe the doc, there's just a lot of evidence. Even when you look at the Rolling Stone article, which details a lot of his stuff going all the way back. Was it Rolling Stone?

[Charlemagne]

Yeah. All the way to college?

[Ebro Darden]

Yep, all the way to college. Right.

[Charlemagne]

I'm not. But the problem. That's why what I'm trying to say is I would never be able to say that's the experience I had with him, because I had really largely positive experience with him. What I won't do, though, is say that those things are misrepresenting who he is simply because I don't know that part of him. All I know is the video I saw, which was horrifying.

[Ebro Darden]

So now, that would have been the evidence I've heard. I think a lot of times when you're asking people who don't talk for a living to talk about sensitive situations, they obviously only talk about it through their lens.

[Charlemagne]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

And so because we do this sort of thing as a live for a living, professionally, it's how we pay our bills. We are accustomed to factoring in things that may affect others that aren't ourselves when we speak, or at least we try to, you know what I'm saying? And so what you just said would have been a great thing to say. Hey, my experience with Diddy is not like the things I've heard and seen. And I think the things I've heard and seen are terrible. And the people who went through those things were affected by those things. You know, I hope they, you know, find closure and, you know, I'M sure they're triggered often by hearing about Diddy, but that wasn't my experience. End of thought.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, speaking of more, Debbie, here's another clip. Young Miami Ms. Carisha finally sat down for a one on one interview because, you know, we haven't really heard anything from her. So this one is with Charlemagne Charlamague.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I think I wrote it up for a change, man. I think that the man that I met and that I experienced was changed. I'm not going justify some Bush or like support some book. If I felt like that person was a change and I felt like the person that I met was changed, it was a different experience. So that's why I wrote a letter.

[Ebro Darden]

Do you think you owed like your fans an explanation or do you feel like your personal relationships are nobody's business but yours?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

I feel like both. I feel like as people that's supporting you, that's buying into you and that love you, you have to get them some type of, you know, it's. They gotta be able to connect with you. So I can't just be like y', all, this my personal life, I don't owe y'.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

It's happened to me that do feel like they were at the end of the day, being a real person, you know, I feel like that door is open to them.

[Ebro Darden]

How do you. How do you reconcile supporting someone publicly when the court of public opinion is saying something completely different?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Because if I meet you today or if my time that I experience with you is one way, I can only judge that person that way. So it's just like I can't speak to nothing that I don't know of. I can only. I can only speak to the person that I met. And if I met this person that changed my life, that helped me grow, that treated me like a queen, that made me believe in myself, it's like, that's what I know. And I feel like people can have opinions, but I can only judge a person off of what I know.

[Ebro Darden]

I think I was clean. Are people have a problem with it?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I mean. Yeah, because they feel like she never at least acknowledged the damage that's been done behind the scenes. You know what I mean? Like.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, that's because she's not. She's only, like I just said a second ago, Laura, she's only thinking about her lens.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Of course, of course. But to me, I'm like, if I meet somebody that. I'm not talking about Diddy, but. Or Randall, right? Great, great guy. I met you. Okay. I met you a Couple of times. But then I'm like, oh wait, he has a documented past of like raping people and hurting people. I. I'm sorry, but I can't get past that.

[Charlemagne]

Well, did I wonder if Charlamagne asked her? Let's specifically address the Cassie video. Cause that's not a rumor, right? That's a real thing. And so that, that was a real piece.

[Ebro Darden]

But also it's not like I, I think we're using the wrong word here when we like, like Laura, your, your reference there where you said, I just met someone. One, they were in a relationship for a long time at which she may have not known the information that came out later. So she had a long experience with a person and then found out some information. I, I'm not, I'm not sure that's the timeline, but that's what I remember. So she found out some information after the fact, after having a great time and a great experience or whatever escapades they were on, and then found out that this person had a tattered past. It's not like she met him and then found out about the tattered past. You see what I'm saying? It's a little bit different. So at that point, it is different. Where I've known you for a couple of years, been having great experiences with you, and then I hear about some bad stuff. Are you gonna now stop communicating with this person or supporting this person? Because like she said in her clip, this was a changed person. The person I was with.

[Charlemagne]

It's. Listen, that's what makes it complicated. I don't expect Young Miami to hate Puff because, you know, the rest of the world has seen all this stuff. I don't expect that. But I would be curious to like, the question I would want to know is, when you saw the video of her and of him and Cassie, did that scare you? Like, is that someone you want to share your life with? How did he explain that to you? Did he like tell you about trying to make amends for that? Like that Everything else is speculation. The freak offs are all weird and nasty and odd. But at the end of the day, we are making judgment calls on those things. The video with Cassie, there's no judgment call to be made. But that's the thing.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Even sitting through that public trial where everything else comes out, because it wasn't just Cassie, it was so much more.

[Charlemagne]

I know, but every other thing.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, yeah. Rosenberg speaking to like you. Literally everything else is, he says she said was evidence in court. But you could look at that video and Go, yo. But I. But she addresses it. This is why I keep pushing back. She addresses it when in that sit down where she's like, the person I was with is changed person.

[Charlemagne]

So I guess I just want to know where the chain. Like, if you telling me that he's changed, can you tell us, like, how he addressed his beating of Cassie? Because he beat Cassie.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Charlemagne]

How did he. How did he address that specifically? That would have been a great follow. But she wasn't with a great interview.

[Ebro Darden]

Remember I told you guys when he dropped the Love album. Yes. I had an. I did an interview with him.

[Charlemagne]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

And he did a whole. We did a whole radio show together. Karisha pulled up me and the desca. We was all there. And he was talking about, you know, how he's standing the light, and it's all about love. And I was in the interview, I kept saying, yo, you've been through some stuff, man. Like what? Like, obviously we know the big stuff and the losses of this person and that person and all the things that you've been through. But, like, he was like, yo, man, like, addiction. I was in the bath. He told me in the interview. I was in the bathroom for a year. My kids had to come get me out of the bathroom. So that was at the Love album. How long after the release of the Love album does all this other stuff come out? And was. Was this stuff already haunting him or. And did he know this stuff was about to drop on his doorstep?

[Charlemagne]

Right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. So he might have actively been hanging out with Karisha and doing it, Trying to live a whole other life.

[Charlemagne]

He probably was. And as a result, she may have really seen a different person. This person who was really scared about all. Who knows? She could have.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, no. Yeah, yeah, I see that.

[Ebro Darden]

Who was really trying to leave his past behind, trying to be a different person. Realized that he was a disaster and was, like, really trying to be somebody better, and it caught up to him.

[Charlemagne]

Listen, I'm just not in the. I'm just not in the game of. I don't have the interest in, like, the Internet does. Judging the way everyone feels about everything. Like, yes, there are certain things, like, are you overtly racist? Are you overtly nasty to people? Are you just openly a bad person?

[Ebro Darden]

Cool.

[Charlemagne]

I can judge that. Judging people based on, like, did they give the statement on the thing that I wanted them to make? Oh, I now need to vilify them, too. Listen, Usher, I didn't like the word choice. Wasn't perfect. Okay. I mean, that makes me think. Usher's a bad guy now.

[Ebro Darden]

But that's the world we live, right? But that's the world we live in now, where it's like, they didn't say it the way they were supposed to.

[Charlemagne]

Meanwhile, none of these people on Twitter who are coming after all these people have ever been interviewed about anything important. And know what it's like when the cameras are on and you got to try to.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, you sound like me. You're attacking the customer now. You call him Yaj's customer.

[Charlemagne]

Exactly.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I think. As for me, I just. Lately, I've been sitting with the fact that it's like, rape, abuse, physical abuse, abuse against children. All of that is just thrown out. Like, it's nothing like, people really talk about it. Like, if it's a regular thing and it's okay, and it's nothing like, I look at the amount of time people get when they do get justice. It's like five years for what you did. That's horrific. And I think lately I've been in a space where it's like, people talk about it, like, if it's regular. And it really bothers me on how people just don't value, like, it's violence against children, violence against women, and people

[Charlemagne]

don't care about victims at all.

[Laura Rosenberg]

People just don't care. They're like, oh, wow, that sucks. Next.

[Charlemagne]

Well, that. But that. I know this is getting deep here, but that goes back to my whole thing about the way I am about the Epstein files and people just being loose about all of it. Oh, you saw they're eating the babies. It's like, hold on. Let's talk about things we know are happening here. Everything's in a loose. It's just everywhere. So you can't process these horrible. Like, I could argue, bro, if any of us. If Cassie had been any of our children, there's no punishment on God's green earth that would have been enough for that, man. There's not. But when you're not connected to it, it's easier for us to go. People make mistakes. People deserve to recover from those mistakes, by the way. I'm not saying that's the wrong opinion either, but we're just inundated with so much stuff. None of it means anything. Onto the next story.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, quickly. And like, just. Just on that. On that topic, really quickly, of just how fast the Internet moves and how people just think it's like, oh, yeah, just another regular day. Like, I was watching, like, clips of Ms. Rachel talking to children who are in these camps, and it's she's here

[Charlemagne]

in the U.S. you mean?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes, she's just her right now, her focus is like, she's trying to shut it down, trying to get these kids out.

[Trump (clip)]

Yeah.

[Charlemagne]

She's fighting this one in Texas to close it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And I'm just like, oh my God, like Ms. Rachel is trying to free these children here in the U.S. yep. Like, that is what she's trying to do.

[Charlemagne]

And that's not even a story, really. I mean, it's like a little thing people know about. Yeah, but people aren't even thinking about this.

[Ebro Darden]

Who would cover it? Who would cover it?

[Charlemagne]

Right. Someone in EO alo cover.

[Ebro Darden]

Remember? Well, that part. You could be in Ebro's algo or you could just realize that you currently live in a country that has always desensitized the population to the mutilation and abuse of human beings. Like, that's what this whole country was founded on, like. So, Laura, I 1000% agree with you, but I also love to extrapolate and look back and for us to have some perspective on the culture we all contribute to, which is this one in this country, which has been built on the dehumanization, abuse and disregard of people who don't fit a certain look or, you know, body type or, you know, economic bracket. That's what. Isn't that who we are?

[Charlemagne]

Yeah, it is. It's who we've been.

[Ebro Darden]

And by the way, we're all old enough on this show to remember, and I'm sure people watching this remember a time in this country and we talk about it a lot when we talk about Britney Spears or we talk about some of these kids who were put on television and made to be. What's the word I'm looking for? Sexy. Yeah, yeah. And we've sexualized children. We sexualized Catholic school girl outfits. We sexualized, you know, a lot of things often. And, and I don't. And I think in the 80s and 90s, a man talking to an 18 year old or a 17 year old, a grown man, people even right now, there's a parent who's dealing with their 17 or 18 year old and there's a 28 year old who's interested in them or a college student who's. And we, we act like this is like, okay, I remember being in high school and sophomores in high school were dating college dudes with cars. And the dudes at school was like, yo, that's wow, bro. Like, he's mad. Oh,

[Laura Rosenberg]

yo, Rosenberg. I remember getting on the phone because, remember, we had Just the house phone cursing out a dude that was calling for my little sister. All right, she's in junior high school. And I was like, I remember asking him, how old are you? He was like 22.

[Charlemagne]

Junior high school.

[Ebro Darden]

22, yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And I'm cursing him out and like I just, I said, don't you ever call this house again. And me trying to question her about it. And she was just kind of like, just quiet.

[Charlemagne]

Well, what does she. Yeah, and she's a kid now.

[Ebro Darden]

Now, Laura, Laura, walk with me. How common. Now, now we're outside of the United States. How common is that behavior outside of the United States in so many cultures?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Very common. Very common.

[Ebro Darden]

So where it's culturally accepted for a 30 year old to be marrying arranged marriage, because they still live in a different time. Arranged marriage with a 14 year old, 13 year old, and poverty, where the

[Laura Rosenberg]

family sometimes is like, yeah, go ahead. They'll sell their child to like a, a rich quote unquote, rich family when they're just basically like middle class. It doesn't even matter. They just make it okay.

[Charlemagne]

You know what I was wondering? That's kind of semi related to this topic or pretty related to it. How many? I just had this thought the other day. Don't let it be a judgment on my free time.

[Ebro Darden]

How many?

[Charlemagne]

When you're on a porn website, how many things are about the title? Is stepdaughter stepfather? No, but particularly that part. I want to know why so many people are getting off on playing with the daughter father relationship.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So weird.

[Ebro Darden]

Because it's sick, bro.

[Charlemagne]

That's weird, bro. That is. I know the other, like, who goes, ooh, I want to see stepfather stepdaughter stuff.

[News Reporter]

What?

[Charlemagne]

Why is that a thing? We're sick, bro. To your point.

[Ebro Darden]

We're sick, we're sick, we're sick. And, and sorry we had to go that far. But when we start talking about these things, I feel like it's useful not removing any blame or, or making an excuse, but I think it's useful for all of us to know that we're talking about human beings. Yes, they're celebrity, yes, they're wealthy. But sometimes that makes it even easier to get sick.

[Charlemagne]

Super.

[Ebro Darden]

Because they have money and access. So there. So where, where the rest of us will be like, nah, I ain't doing that. I don't want to be a part of that world. Or I don't even. What are they even talking about? Other people are like, oh, that's what you do when you get a lot of money and this is how you party and you throw all these crazy parties and we're doing all these drugs and oh, I have this fetish. And now I get to live out this fetish because I got a lot of money. Some people have that in them, and they don't have the access. Some people have it in them, and they have the access.

[Charlemagne]

And back to the. And this ties right into the validate me of it all. When you have access to that and you get off on being validated by other people, like so many people do. But now, if you were a Puff, for example, you were with Jennifer Lopez. You've done everything there is to do. We don't even know the untold other women celebrities Puff had in his life. Besides that, at a certain point, as a result of trying to validate, now it's what can I make people do for me? What are they will have sex with this person, have sex with Fran. I'm make you do this. And Ebro's right. Like the access and still the desperation because you're not able to fill the cup yourself. Now you got to get more sick things to make you feel good.

[Ebro Darden]

And bro told us.

[Charlemagne]

Which.

[Ebro Darden]

Which part I thought. And he reminded us. I thought I told you that we won't stop.

[Charlemagne]

Yeah, you know what?

[Ebro Darden]

All right, that was. No. That wasn't. That wasn't no appropriate, wrong, bad.

[Charlemagne]

That's not guru talk.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Sorry to change subjects, okay? Because I just got a text right now. I'm so annoyed, guys. I'm so annoyed.

[Charlemagne]

Wait, what?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Because it's Kenza's picture day, okay? And we woke up extra early to do her hair.

[Ebro Darden]

All right?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Because you're usually Ricardo does her hair. Well, I get a text that picture days at the end of the day. Oh, at the Ebro. You know how these kids come home?

[Charlemagne]

What do they look like when you come home?

[Ebro Darden]

Laura, Laura, you gotta chalk it up. Chalk it up. It's just one year of school. Pictures gonna look crazy. Maybe there's this teacher there could. That could get her hair laid back down. Maybe because this has happened to Issa before, where luckily there was a. There was other black teachers there that could help her tighten up a little bit and, you know, get the. Get the edges laid back. You know what I mean? Get things laid back. But it'll be all right. It'll be all right. And it'll be a story to tell later on. Oh, my God.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I do not want to show a picture, which I will of Kenza basically looking electrocuted.

[Charlemagne]

Yo, she looks like young Frankenstein.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, no. She's going to look like she came out. She's going to look like she just came out of a. Of a. Of a tumble dry machine. That's what she's going to look like.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Exactly what she's going to look like. These kill kids.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Oh, my God.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, F these kill kids. Yo. It's time for the gurus.

[Charlemagne]

Oh, man. Hold on. I think you're right. It is time for the

[Ebro Darden]

bottom, right, Rosenberg. All right. You know, you are beautiful queen Ebro. Don't ever play yourself. You're not a goo.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The original gurus atgmail.com. the original, original gurus. Gmail.com. where the gurus unite to fight for what's right. Ebro, burn the sage.

[Ebro Darden]

Sage burnout.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Let's bring that down a little bit. Who's out there?

[Ebro Darden]

Who needs us?

[Charlemagne]

Send your emails today, folks. TheOriginalGurus. Gmail.com. the original GurusMail.

[Ebro Darden]

Comail.com your destination.

[Charlemagne]

For clarity. Hear my nose. Perpetually stuffed.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No.

[Ebro Darden]

Has my camera been whacked the whole time or is my. My feed looking right?

[Charlemagne]

No, you've been good.

[Ebro Darden]

You've been good. It's been clean. All right. How you guys like my shirt? How you like my shirt?

[Charlemagne]

I don't know.

[Ebro Darden]

I kind of.

[Charlemagne]

Yeah, I'm not exactly sure what's going on there.

[Ebro Darden]

It's not the shirt, but I blend into the curtains too much.

[Charlemagne]

You just look like you're like, cosplaying. Vacation Ebro or something.

[Ebro Darden]

So I got breaking news. Breaking news. We are going into printed shirt era, Ebro, everybody. You know what I'm saying?

[Charlemagne]

Without your feeling.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, no, I had some of these shirts in the closet, and I was like, yo, you know what?

[Charlemagne]

If it suits you.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm getting. I'm getting old. I'm looking for a vacation all the time. So let me just at least put it on my shirt.

[Charlemagne]

It's a good call.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I like it.

[Charlemagne]

The original gurusmail.com. your destination, for clarity. Hopefully I'll breathe better starting next week when we're out of our apartment. You know what I'm saying? Good morning.

[Ebro Darden]

Are you stressed? Is that what you're saying?

[Charlemagne]

No, no, no. I'm saying that I'm worried the air is not good in my current apartment.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, that part.

[Charlemagne]

And all I can do is sort of like suspend thinking about it and be like, I think everything's fine, but I'll be happy to not be there. Good morning, Ebro. Laura Rosenberg. First, I would like to state congratulations to all of you and the entire crew. For all your success, it's a great pleasure to finally have the convenience to not ever miss a beat. Since you started casting on YouTube and Patreon. Big, big thank you, by the way. Real quick aside to this, I don't know if you guys have had this experience, but my guess is you have. I went to the Knicks game the other night and I ran into a few people who were Fox. Have you guys had this experience yet where you run into someone on the street and they start screaming about how much they miss you and how the new Ish ain't right and the station's not right and I miss y', all. And you can't even stop them. I had to stop. And I went, well, listen to me. Listen, listen. We're live every day at 8 o'. Clock. All you have to do is go to our YouTube. And no matter how clearly you're saying it, they're just like, I miss you, I miss you, I miss you.

[Ebro Darden]

And you're like, oh, no, but this is important.

[Charlemagne]

Listen, go, listen.

[Ebro Darden]

And this is why. This is why we got plans. It's important because, a, there's a large population that does not watch content in this forum on YouTube. So that's a thing. Yeah, they don't know how to do it in their car. This happened to me when I was at Issa's flag football game with a family who stopped me and wanted. We miss you, we miss you, we miss you. And I'm like, yo, just watch on YouTube, 8 o'.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Clock.

[Ebro Darden]

She's like. And they were like, yeah, but I'm in the car. And I'm like, turn it on your phone and put it on your Bluetooth. And we're right there, eight o'. Clock. And they're like, oh, oh. Like, they're just not. And these aren't older people. These are people.

[Charlemagne]

I know.

[Ebro Darden]

It's really.

[Charlemagne]

That's why in our plans, we have to have plans to not only alert people to where we are, but almost to, like, baby step, tell them how to do it.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Charlemagne]

We have to.

[Laura Rosenberg]

My homegirl was like, I'm old. Explain to me how I can listen to you in the car, yo.

[Charlemagne]

But then, like, shout out to my.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Let me teach you.

[Charlemagne]

But shout out to, like, Carl Banks, for example. I think Carl's like, 60.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, he knows 62.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Charlemagne]

I mean, listen, man. As a Super bowl champion from 1986, Carl, the second we move, the next day, he's like, yo, listening live on YouTube. Like, some people just don't get it?

[Ebro Darden]

It's not an age thing. Maybe it's a technology thing.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's just a tech thing.

[Charlemagne]

Right? My parents get it and they're in their 70s, so.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Charlemagne]

All right. Anyways, so here's where I need some enlightenment and guidance. As a custodial father for two teenage boys for about a decade, I have been having issues in the pursuit of a long term relationship. I have mentioned to the women that I pursued. I am not pursuing with intent of them being mom, but I am in defeat of the fact that it's being completely misunderstood. A friend, a trusting role model, someone they can count on if needed. These are the ideas I'm relaying to relieve a position of a new relationship with a custodial father. The word custodial, because I don't use it in everyday conversation. Does this mean he's taken over care of kids?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, yeah. That's a legal. He's Mr. Trump, illegal guardian.

[Charlemagne]

Well, the world don't move to the beat. It just want Trump.

[Ebro Darden]

What might be right for you may

[Charlemagne]

not be right for some. Man is born. He's a man of means.

[Ebro Darden]

I think that's the way, you know, I used to think that said he. He's a melody.

[Charlemagne]

And I was like, he's a melody. He's got no melon in anyways. He was white, Mr. Drummond, in case you didn't know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes, okay, go.

[Charlemagne]

Anyways, I have learned through all the years that all my position as a male custodial parent is not so uncommon, but it still is rare. Doesn't take away from the woman's perspective that they feel is needed to fill the role of mom. I try to relieve that pressure because their mother is active in their lives. Being single for a long period of time and my kids not witnessing companionship in the household, in the hookup culture, that it's becoming more relevant these days has been a problem. Any advice would be great. I appreciate your time. FYI, I received the we got plans T shirt and been asked multiple times what the plans are and I have nothing new to talk about. So, any updates? Any updates? Love you guys. And Laura, remember, they hate us because they ain't us word.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, let's start. Let's start right there at that. At the. At the last thought, which is. What are the plans? Well, one of them is Laura just released new merch yesterday on the Patreon, which. Which by tomorrow I'm going to be attempting to shut down. And Rosenberg's gonna be hating, saying, don't shut it down. Yet. And Laura's gonna be like, what time should we shut it down? I'm gonna say 10am on Friday. Rose gonna be like, let's go to 4. And I'm gonna say, no, 10am

[Podcast Host]

who

[Charlemagne]

wants to make money when we shirt?

[Ebro Darden]

And I go, well, no, but everything. But sometimes it's just about, you know, things go up for a time. We have to be able to manage it effectively. How? We don't have to beat everybody in the head to take all their money every time.

[Charlemagne]

We already offer such a great price.

[Ebro Darden]

So let's keep the cadence. Let's keep the cadence. And those are some of the plans. We also have marketing plans. Rosenberg has what's a validate me new podcast plans. So there's a lot of place.

[Charlemagne]

Point is, there's plans.

[Ebro Darden]

There's a lot of plans. There's a lot of.

[Laura Rosenberg]

A lot of conversations behind the scene for a really cool giveaways. Look, we're working.

[Charlemagne]

First of all, my first.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, yo, go ahead. And I was. I was gonna add. And now that once we get Juanito and. And Laura's relationship worked out.

[Charlemagne]

Go ahead.

[Ebro Darden]

Once we get Juanito and Laura's relationship worked out, maybe we could do Whitish Wednesday back on Patreon.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Why do we need him is we need a dj. I've got plenty.

[Ebro Darden]

They're not familiar with the audience, though. Juanito provides comedy and, you know, some conflict comedy and a plot.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's fine. It's fine.

[Ebro Darden]

You sure you don't have to listen? I'm all fine with you dragging this out, too. Either way this plays, it's a win.

[Charlemagne]

A woman scorned is dangerous. A woman scorned is willing to do anything. That woman is Laura Stein. Will DJ Juanito live to see another day? We'll find out on Ebro. Laura and Rosenberg.

[Laura Rosenberg]

When you got beef with me, you got beef with me forever.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, that camera look right there was solid, Laura. That was solid. When he looked at the camera, he said, forever.

[Charlemagne]

So. So to our man who's writing real quick, my first bit of advice. Stop using the word custodial so much, please. It's not in everybody's vocabulary every day. So he's meeting these ladies. They're kicking it with him. He's like, yo, so, by the way, I'm a custodial parent. They're like, what?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no, but here's why he's doing it. Here's why he's doing it. Because it is what? The reason he's proud of it is because a. He's saying I took the responsibility as the fuck father to be or as a man to be in these young people's lives more than their mom could or wanted to do, whatever that is. And so the reason he's writing is because.

[Charlemagne]

Wait, wait, so is that what this means? These are his children?

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yeah, he's.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know if they're. I don't know if they're his biological children.

[Charlemagne]

Okay, so custodial.

[Ebro Darden]

Proven.

[Charlemagne]

My point is proven. Use words we understand, bro. Are they your kids or you adopted somebody?

[Ebro Darden]

Griff. Google it. Griff. Google. Custodial. But at any rate, it's not a lot of men who are capable or willing to do this, which is the point of him writing. There are men who are doing it, but it's not common. And so he needs a little bit of help. Rosenberg, so. And he also. He wears it as a badge of honor.

[Charlemagne]

I know, but I know it doesn't sound like it sounds like I'm being mean. I swear to you, I'm trying to help. You're asking us, how do I stop scaring off these women? It's great that you're proud of this and you should be. You don't need to lead with it, though. It doesn't have to be, hey, nice to meet you. What's your name? We should get a drink sometime. You know, I have a custodial parent for two teenage boys. It just sounds like you don't want to lead with it constantly if you don't want it to be the first thing that they're concerned about.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I know, but I also think that you should bring the person that you're dating off the top. They should know your situation.

[Charlemagne]

A custodial parent is the parent with whom a child lives for the majority of the time. So they're his kids?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes, they're his kids.

[Charlemagne]

So what are you trying to say?

[Ebro Darden]

He has custody.

[Charlemagne]

He's a dad. Yes, is what he's saying. He's a dad.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They're with him the majority of the

[Charlemagne]

time, but he has the kids.

[Ebro Darden]

But the conflict, guys, is, as he said in his email, when he. When he does meet a lady, they want to try to be mothers to the kids, but the kid's mom is still involved and he doesn't. He's having a hard time explaining to women who he's dating that you don't have to try to mother these boys. That's not what this is about. I'm just trying to meet you and. And have a good time and get to know you. And also I think he's struggling with how does he now introduce his sons to a new person after not having a person for so long. Well, he see what I'm saying?

[Charlemagne]

He just wants his kids to see a good positive relationship would make sense. Also I listen. I know what's going to happen in the comments. Everyone's going to say, ebro, you're a genius. Rosenberg, you're an a hole. This is the most on point I've ever been. Why all this custodial talk? We literally didn't know what it meant. What it means. We had to look it up to figure out what the man is talking about. We are over complicating this and maybe he is in his life too. He, him and his girl broke up. They have kids, the kids live with him. At some point these women are gonna find out. My kids live with me. But this isn't something that's not happening all the time. You got teenage kids, they have their own mom. I'm not looking for a new mom for my kids. Like I just feels like we may be over complicating the situation. Maybe he just needs to like move slow, get to know people, find the relationship. Maybe he's bringing up what a role would look like too early when they want to just have fun, just get the dills for a while.

[Ebro Darden]

Ebro, I mean come well, well. And so for anybody out there, and I'm not one of them, but I've. We've, I think we've had gurus like this and I have boys that are like that have dealt with this. When you meet a single parent, often times all they have to talk about is their parenting and their kids. Cuz that's their entire life facts. And so the re like kind of what you're saying Rosenberg, with the whole custodial, you're leading with all of this parenting stuff and all of this kind of heavy stuff which may be a turn off to people which is making it over complicated. All facts. But I think sir, the, the emailer, you need to spend some time and ask yourself are you ready to date and are you ready to be a person that is having fun with another adult? That it doesn't have anything to do with your parenting.

[Charlemagne]

Right. Because and it needs to, it needs to not have everything. Think about it. Put yourself in the lady's shoes that you're talking to.

[Charlamagne Tha God]

Yes.

[Charlemagne]

If you were them and you met a new guy and he's cute and he's nice and he's this. And then you sit down and he's like, what do you know about custodial parenthood? Like, is that really gonna get you going?

[Ebro Darden]

Like. Well, I mean, let's be honest and honestly, he probably needs to be stuppen. And hooking up with somebody who has

[Charlemagne]

a similar situation, that's probably where it's probably ideal.

[Ebro Darden]

You know what I'm saying? Do your parents. Do your kids have any extracurricular activities where there's a few moms that, you know, look lonely, you look lonely, and y' all could be not lonely together.

[Charlemagne]

What's the Brady Bunch song he brought? We already sung the Jefferson.

[Ebro Darden]

Here's a. Here's a lady.

[Charlemagne]

No, he's a story of a man,

[Ebro Darden]

of a lovely lady who was with

[Charlemagne]

three very lovely girls.

[Ebro Darden]

Is that how it starts?

[Charlemagne]

And like, their mother. You get the idea. The youngest one in curls. Yeah. There's a man named Brady. Back to Tom Brady. Anyways, I think that's a really good point by Ebro. Maybe you're spending too much time trying to meet people who don't relate to the situation, and especially because so often mothers are the custodial parents. You can find a woman out there who also has her kids with her full time. She totally gets it. But guess what? The dad's involved in that life, too. Like, you might need to stop.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And you should try to get people to understand it, too, though.

[Charlemagne]

Yeah, absolutely.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Take it slow and enjoy, like, the adult companionship before you get the kids.

[Ebro Darden]

Or, like a lot of single parents out here doing. They take it fast, and then they figure it out later. You know what I'm saying?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Don't want to do that bow.

[Ebro Darden]

Get to the bow.

[Charlemagne]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All right. Well, I hope this helps. So say the gurus. Thank you, guys. Remember, merch is up for limited time. It's gonna. Listen, it's moving.

[Charlemagne]

Just remember, people get shut down. I'm trying to get. I was trying to get you. And I continue to try to get you. At least the weekend. People need a. Sometimes they get paid Friday.

[Ebro Darden]

It's up on Friday till 10:00am no,

[Charlemagne]

that's not one paycheck.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Ten?

[Charlemagne]

No, not ten. We're giving a little more time.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, you get the direct deposit. Pulls up at, like, 6am I'll be looking for mine.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, my God.

[Charlemagne]

And by the way, now that I only got one job, this particular pizza merch is. Is, like, such a thing that I think everyone will want. I just want people to have the time. That's.

[Ebro Darden]

That's why we're cutting it off tonight.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's a dedication to the hot in the street. Listen, we got a crew neck, we got a T shirt and mug.

[Charlemagne]

A lot of stuff there for you folks. We got plans.

[Ebro Darden]

Yank the tea in the crew neck, leave the mug.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Bye April Subscribe Thank y' all. Telephone and telephone. We're live each and every day 8am

[Charlemagne]

and don't forget the Patreon now offering to all patrons the commercial free version of the podcast. So if you want to be able to listen to the show, every day

[Ebro Darden]

is video and audio.

[Charlemagne]

By the way, it's audio only. Audio only. No commercials. But it's still a treat for you on on Patreon Tree.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Bye.

[Ebro Darden]

Just don't call it a podcast.

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[Laura Rosenberg]

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[Ebro Darden]

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[Ebro Darden]

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[Charlemagne]

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[Ebro Darden]

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[Charlemagne]

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