69.) Family Matters + Algorithm Hustling (4/2/26)

Summary

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The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show

Episode 69: Family Matters + Algorithm Hustling (4/2/26)
Date: April 2, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This episode of "The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show" dives into the layered themes of internet narratives, algorithm manipulation, family dynamics, and current cultural headlines. With candid banter and personal storytelling, the trio explores how social media shapes perceptions, reacts to viral rumors, and unpacks trending political and entertainment controversies.

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Key Discussion Points & Segments

1. "Algo Hustling" and Internet Narratives

Timestamps: 00:45–08:20

• The show opens with the hosts discussing recent clips going viral and how internet users run with out-of-context content, often for personal gain ("algo hustling").
• Ebro reflects on moving homes, his "dial-up" streaming look, and the trolls online spinning narratives about their lack of a studio or declining relevance.
• Laura reveals that the person who started the negative narrative is actually an active fan, underlining how online behaviors can be driven purely by algorithmic self-promotion rather than genuine critique.
• Rahsaan sums it up:

  "To run his own algo up, clip something out of context to just get it going on social, to try to create a narrative. Yeah, I'll go hustling." (03:38, Rahsaan)

• The hosts joke about inaccurate headlines ("Ebro talks about how things have gotten harder now that he's not at Hot 97 after being fired for incompetence"), emphasizing how social media headlines can drastically misrepresent reality.

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2. Algorithm Worlds vs. Reality

Timestamps: 04:46–05:44

• They highlight the disconnect between online hate and real-world feedback:
  • Online: "damn, they're whack," "no studio," negative takes.
  • Real-life: fans love the show, appreciate the content, and the in-person vibe remains strong.
• Rahsaan underscores:

  "What I see in real life are people who are like, yo, I love what you guys are doing. The studio looks great. Love the content you're covering." (04:53, Rahsaan)

• Ebro teases a new, yet-to-be-announced project with "an awesome guest" that will exist outside the noise of negative internet spaces.

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3. "Not From New York" Discourse and Q-Tip’s Group Chat

Timestamps: 06:08–08:13

• The group discusses a recurring internet debate questioning Rosenberg's claim to being "from New York."
• Q-Tip sent them a post reigniting this debate, to which Rosenberg reflects:

  "He is right. Except he made up an argument that I never had." (06:36, Ebro Darden)

• Rosenberg digs into his own upbringing and familial narratives about what constitutes a "true" New Yorker, adding nuance and levity to the cultural gatekeeping.

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4. Kristi Noem Scandal & The Psychology of Hypocrisy

Timestamps: 08:40–21:45

• The team breaks down the viral Kristi Noem story: her husband caught cross-dressing and sexting with a sex worker (allegedly an undocumented immigrant), which led to political fallout for Noem.
• The story spurs a wider discussion on hidden lives, political hypocrisy, and the psychological implications of public "moral" crusaders having private secrets.
• Amanda's Mild Takes (Instagram commentator) is highlighted for her astute and humorous breakdowns:

  "The thing about this story that bothers me is not that he does this...It's that he did not even try to hide who he was. And when he gave these women his phone number, it was his real phone number, like, to his business...” (13:43, Amanda’s Mild Takes) “At least Boobygate doesn’t contain any war plans.” (14:51, Amanda’s Mild Takes)

• The hosts draw parallels to other political and celebrity scandals (Al Franken) and the uneven standards applied to Democrats versus Republicans.

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5. "Every Accusation Is a Confession"

Timestamps: 16:45–18:56

• The group discusses how those most vehemently anti-LGBTQ or "pause" culture are often hiding their own secrets:

  “Every accusation is a confession. Just like in the MAGA world...everything they're saying is happening or others are doing is every time.” (16:45, Rahsaan)

• Rahsaan and Ebro riff on the irony of political figures’ strict public morality hiding considerable private deviation.

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6. Sidebars on Family Dynamics, IVF, and Parenting

Timestamps: 31:26–36:00

• Rosenberg reacts to the Boozer family’s story: NBA player Carlos Boozer and his wife conceived twins via IVF to save their eldest son, who had sickle cell disease. The twins later became NCAA basketball stars.
• Rosenberg shares his own IVF experience:

  “I really enjoy that people get so weird about stuff like that.” (20:14, Ebro Darden)

• They discuss the difficult choices around having one versus multiple children and the societal narratives about family.

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7. Debunking Beyoncé Tour Film & Megan Thee Stallion Health Scare

Timestamps: 36:08–39:36

• Laura reveals that rumors of a Beyoncé "Cowboy Carter" tour film on Disney+ were false, illustrating the speed at which fake news spreads online.
• Megan Thee Stallion was rushed to a hospital after falling ill mid-show at Moulin Rouge. The conversation highlights the grueling nature of Broadway schedules for artists from other fields.

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8. Cardi B’s Self-Investment & Progression

Timestamps: 39:45–45:39

• Clip from Cardi B’s interview with Emma Greed:

  “If I get a million views on YouTube, I can make about $30,000 with this music video. And people would take me more serious as an artist...” (40:05, Cardi B) “I was investing it all in my music...sometimes I wanted to buy a chain...but it's like, this first. And I was so committed, and it happened for me.” (41:28, Cardi B)

• Rahsaan highlights Emma Greed’s business acumen and the importance of women-focused entrepreneurship stories.
• Ebro waxes poetic about Cardi’s journey from social media standout and reality TV star to legitimate, respected artist:

  “She just seems like a good human. And then to see this run of the tour...I think Cardi, one day, could be a fantastic one-woman show on Broadway." (45:27, Ebro Darden)

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9. Brandy, Age-Gap Relationships, and Cultural Reassessment

Timestamps: 46:41–52:49

• Brandy’s memoir “Phases” surfaces news of dating Boyz II Men’s Wanye Morris at 16 (he was 22). The hosts reflect on changing social standards, industry practices, and how we relitigate the past.
• The conversation is nuanced, acknowledging the gray areas of consent, agency, and hindsight, with Rosenberg noting:

  “We re-litigate these things 30 years later, and everyone can get on their high horse. But you remove what the situation actually felt like.” (49:52, Ebro Darden)

• They contrast this to the Aaliyah and R. Kelly scandal, discussing how cultural norms shift and affect retroactive judgment.

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10. 2028 Democratic Politics, Israel, and Progressive Messaging

Timestamps: 54:55–63:17

• Rahsaan details the internal struggle within Democratic politics: centrist Dems distancing themselves from progressives like Zoran Mamdani to appease billionaire donors and pro-Israel groups.
• Ebro reads from his father's Substack, which highlights newly “progressive” stances on Israel from Democratic hopefuls—a shift prompted by voter pressure, not genuine belief:

  “Five years ago, most of these politicians were lining up behind AIPAC talking points...Today, with Gaza flattened...those same figures are discovering a newfound willingness to criticize Israel.” (58:00–58:29, paraphrased from Ebro/M.J. Rosenberg)

• The panel laments the lack of bold messaging in the Democratic Party, praising Zoran for his clarity:

  “Democrats suck at messaging. And I don't understand how they haven't called Zoran to be like, yo, give you some tips.” (62:55, Laura Rosenberg)

• Ebro asserts, “The left needs their Trump,” meaning a charismatic, unapologetic progressive who can move the needle with cult-of-personality power.

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11. Political Realism & Incremental Change

Timestamps: 63:24–65:59

• The hosts reflect on settling for imperfect political candidates and the hope that, like relationships, they evolve for the better over time:

  “You're really just hiring somebody for a job for a couple years. And can you keep getting them down the road to where you want to be?” (64:56, Rahsaan)

• They defend Kamala Harris’ progressive record, noting that rapid online criticism often ignores politicians' actual willingness to evolve and adopt new positions.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Internet Narratives:

  "To run his own algo up, clip something out of context...Yeah, algo hustling." (03:38, Rahsaan)

• On Political Hypocrisy:

  "Every accusation is a confession...in the MAGA world...everything they're saying is happening or others are doing is every time." (16:45, Rahsaan)

• On Cardi B’s Hustle:

  "I was investing it all in my music...sometimes I wanted to buy a chain...but it's like, this first." (41:28, Cardi B)

• On Family Dynamics & IVF:

  "Love was stronger. And love wins." (35:53, Rahsaan)

• On Democratic Messaging:

  “Democrats suck at messaging. And I don't understand how they haven't called Zoran to be like, yo, give you some tips.” (62:55, Laura Rosenberg)

• On Political Choices:

  "You're really just hiring somebody for a job for a couple years. And can you keep getting them down the road to where you want to be?" (64:56, Rahsaan)

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Episode Flow & Atmosphere

The tone is conversational, witty, and incisive—with regular interplay between serious societal critique and playful self-deprecation. The hosts capitalize on their chemistry, jumping from viral internet moments to heartfelt family stories to intricate political analysis, all with an eye toward exposing hypocrisy and encouraging critical, progressive thought.

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Useful For:
Anyone interested in media literacy, internet culture, progressive politics, celebrity gossip (with substance), and behind-the-scenes stories from cultural commentators who’ve lived through hip-hop’s digital transformation.

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Transcript

[Laura Rosenberg]

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[Ebro Darden]

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[Laura Rosenberg]

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[Rahsaan]

Just don't call it a podcast. The Ero Laura Rosenberg Show. Yo, the way the scratches come off the intro into the beat. Kind of tough if you land it right. It sounds like it's 1 1. Get down. I am Ebro. That is Laura. That is Rosenberg coming to you for another episode of the Ebro Laura Rosenberg Show. The Internet seemed to love taking our clips and running the narrative that, you know, we don't have a studio.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, wait, is that so after you sort of good naturedly were goofing about. No one's checking for us. We don't want to get. We can't get guests anymore. You were talking about once.

[Rahsaan]

This is also after having huge guests, by the way.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, of course.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's what I was gonna be like. Too bad TI Turned us down. The dream turned us down. Rhea Ripley turned us down.

[Ebro Darden]

It's been fine. But so that clip. So they ran with it like, damn, they're whack out here. And also, damn, they're not even. They don't even have a studio.

[Rahsaan]

That's right. But I was on the road celebrating Apple's 50th birthday.

[Ebro Darden]

Sure.

[Rahsaan]

The 50th anniversary of Apple with Paul McCartney at the meet him I did. Wow. Yeah, I met Paul McCarthy.

[Ebro Darden]

Take a picture.

[Rahsaan]

There's probably some I didn't take. I wasn't like, hey, yeah, let me get a photo on. Let me get a. Can somebody take a picture with my phone? No, but I'm sure there's photos that the. The people who work at Apple took photo.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, you just got. I'm saying that's what you gotta, gotta.

[Rahsaan]

But I. But I was also just, you know, supporting my squad. You know what I mean? I've been there for 10 years. 10 years now.

[Ebro Darden]

All right, well, anyways, whatever, loser so. And I was in the middle of a move, so I looked like I was broadcasting from a toaster.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah, you were. It was dial up.

[Ebro Darden]

You had.

[Rahsaan]

You know what I'm saying? It was. What was that?

[Ebro Darden]

Aol, bruh. You know, I messed up, by the way they. I didn't. When I moved from my old place that I just went back to, I ripped the damn black thing out of the wall.

[Rahsaan]

What's the black thing like?

[Ebro Darden]

The. The. The. Before you get to the router, there's like, what, you have Verizon?

[Rahsaan]

Yep.

[Ebro Darden]

It like, runs to this black thing.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And I was moving, and I didn't think I was ever going back. I like, literally cut it. So they had to re. Put that thing back in, like, rebut. I'm an idiot. I'm an idiot. But the point is they turned off my Internet, so I'm rocking off the cell phone. I look like trash. Laura's the only one who looks decent in the studio. And people are loving this clip.

[Rahsaan]

Oh, no, they love how I haven't seen it on my algo. Ebro's algo hasn't been. Well, actually, I. I haven't really been on social media like that, but. How's it moving?

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's. It's moving. It's moving, it's moving.

[Ebro Darden]

So are bigger places picking up or like.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, just Internet trolls, but.

[Rahsaan]

Well, no, the interesting part is the person who started the story is somebody who jumps in our super chat. What's his name?

[Laura Rosenberg]

The Stop.

[Rahsaan]

The Stop.

[Ebro Darden]

The Stop. Who started out saying he hated our guts with a passion.

[Rahsaan]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

And now is like, I'm such a huge fan, I can't stop listening.

[Rahsaan]

Would then took a. Who watches and listens actively every day. But to run his own algo up clip something out of context to just get it going on social, to try to create a narrative. Yeah, I'll go hustling.

[Ebro Darden]

Great big algo hustle. I respect it. You gotta do what you. No, I don't. If that's what you do. You know what I'm saying?

[Rahsaan]

If that's your game.

[Ebro Darden]

It was a good clip. If that.

[Rahsaan]

But. But this. What's the outlet called?

[Ebro Darden]

The stop.

[Rahsaan]

The. Well, whoever runs it was Danny. Danny also is a Patreon subscriber.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes. Well, he's gonna catch us there one day, you know, for sure. So if we get caught slipping, you know, Danny the algo hustler is taking it from the Patreon and he's putting it up. Just know that's happening. So it was funny because I didn't think anything of it when you said it. But like an academics headline when he. I did see that one. The academics headline was great. It was like Ebro talks about how things have gotten harder now that he's not at Hot 97 after being fired for incompetence. I was like, wait, you just added a significant piece of that. So yeah, it's. I thought that was funny.

[Rahsaan]

Now it's. And it's so interesting. Right. Because there's so many worlds on the Internet. Cuz that's a specific world.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Exactly.

[Rahsaan]

Which I don't see in real life. It's not. It never. What I see in real life are people who are like, yo, I love what you guys are doing. The studio looks great. Love the content you're covering. Love the conversations you're having. So that's. And then that's a whole other world. And then there's a world of people who are like asking us to come on the show. And I'm kind of like, that's more for the Ebro show on Apple Music at three o'.

[Ebro Darden]

Clock.

[Rahsaan]

Right, Right. Like we're not. I don't think up here, all the conversations aren't gonna happen here. Right. Or when you launch because you have something coming real late. Yeah, there's conversations that'll be for that.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes. I. I already have the. I. I can't announce yet because we just. I didn't like, like the contract signed.

[Rahsaan]

It's not dry.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it is. It is dry. We just didn't. We didn't have the plan. Like, I don't have the artwork and stuff like that, but I actually already have an awesome guest for my first episode of that. And yeah, we're gonna have separate things. Those things are all gonna happen.

[Rahsaan]

But that thing that you're doing won't be promoted in this world of the

[Ebro Darden]

negative narrative because it's in the music world. And it's me and my boy Mark. Top shelf, premium in our underground world. And all of the artists will see it. But yeah, the haters aren't gonna be able to be like. So they just get to be loser. He lost his job. He's finished.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes. And he doesn't support up and coming

[Rahsaan]

artists and he's not from New York.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh my God.

[Ebro Darden]

Why did Q Tip text me and Ebro a group chat this morning for no reason? Apropos of nothing, early this morning before the show sent us a text with Sypha's post. When.

[Rahsaan]

How old is that?

[Ebro Darden]

Speaking of algorithm hustling Cyph's post from a few weeks ago, which, by the way, he ended up adding, I bet Flex asked him to, but he ended up adding Flex as a collaborator, which I had not seen. You know, Flex was all in that post defending. Defending me.

[Rahsaan]

Right, right.

[Ebro Darden]

But loved the action of that post. Love was. He posted it, like, five, six days after the me and Nori thing. It was like, the end. Nori was on our show on Monday. Tuesday. Cyphe posted it, like, Friday. But you speak of algo hustling. It was everywhere. So Q Tip sends us that today and just writes, he's right. To which I responded, he is right. Except he made up an argument that I never had. The. You know, there's a difference between being from New York and not. And it's like, oh, I know. Do you guys even realize I grew up with that? My dad was so big on that. He would be like. I'd be like, dad, whatever. You're from New York. He'd be like, no, I'm not like, dad, you're born in Brooklyn. You. You lived in upstate New York your whole life. My dad's like, we left Queens when I was 8, and then I lived upstate, and my parents moved back to the city when I was 18 and started college. He's like, my formative years, I was not in New York. I don't consider myself a New Yorker, and so I know the whole thing.

[Rahsaan]

So you should have listened to your dad is what this sounds.

[Ebro Darden]

I knew what he's saying.

[Rahsaan]

He's right. You played yourself.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That is interesting.

[Ebro Darden]

Shouts to cute side. It is. It's just an interesting delineation. I don't. I don't fight it.

[Rahsaan]

I can't believe we're still talking about this.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, Q Tip, I mean, that's Q Tip. He's a legend.

[Rahsaan]

Shout out to Q Tip. Hopefully he's checking out the program. Which part of the program you think he's gonna see? He's gonna see us with the bat with you on the bad dial up and me on the road from the hotel. Be like, nah, I see what you guys are doing.

[Ebro Darden]

No, Q Tip and I talk a good amount. His algo's weird. I don't know what he's getting. Like, he got the Cipher clip, but I don't know if he's getting anything else positive coming down the pike.

[Rahsaan]

Well, speaking of the algo, rahsaan, let's get to ebro's algo number 12. Oh, this is a goodie right here. A nice little skit to Set the tone.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay. Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

What?

[Rahsaan]

No new war? No new war. No new wars. Well, we got new wars. We got no reduced prices in groceries, increased prices in gas, and literally, I want you guys to think about this, because we will. Unemployment, and we will get to the Chrissy Dome story, which we didn't hit yesterday. At what point when you are responsible for hiring people, okay. Filling positions, and the positions continually end up with individuals who get canned by you or get into some sort of scandal.

[Ebro Darden]

Are.

[Rahsaan]

Is the. Is this indicative of who you are as a person? Because if you think about Trump in this whole thing over the last 10 years, how often has there been some sort of issue or scandal around individuals that he has put in public facing positions? We're not even talking about the positions. We don't know anything about, because the Kristi Noem story ends with the most freaky deaky. And I'm not here to kink shame.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

I don't care. But there's some. There's some psychological issues in that household she's in.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I laughed.

[Ebro Darden]

So can you pretend. Pretend you were moving?

[Rahsaan]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And dealing with a lot of things, and all you saw was weird, gigantic fake boobs on a man in a photo.

[Rahsaan]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

And it says, kristi Noem's husband.

[Rahsaan]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

And you don't really know anything else. Imagine that's me. What exactly happened here?

[Rahsaan]

He's in a chat room like this, using his real phone number and having. Dressed like this.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Mm.

[Rahsaan]

And having conversations with sex workers.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Rahsaan]

But look at this one.

[Emma Greed]

Look.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Duck lips and all.

[Ebro Darden]

But this isn't those fake boobs. But that doesn't even. I don't even.

[Rahsaan]

And this is. This is old school, right? This is like, old school kink right here. This ain't even new school. This old school. This was trend. This is transdress. Is that. Was that transvestite back in the day? No, that's something else.

[Laura Rosenberg]

People mix it up. But no, this is just cross dressing.

[Ebro Darden]

Transvestite is the out of date word for being transgender.

[Rahsaan]

Got it. Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

This is more cross dressing.

[Rahsaan]

This is.

[Ebro Darden]

This is old school.

[Rahsaan]

There's that old school. When you were a kid and you'd

[Ebro Darden]

see someone you, like, look at. They have a beard, and they're just fully dressed like a woman. You're like, I. I remember being a kid just being. I don't understand, like, what's going on.

[Rahsaan]

Well, they used to do that at Redskins games. They used to be like, well, hold on.

[Ebro Darden]

Why are you bringing up the hogs and the Hoggettes.

[Rahsaan]

Because I used to see that as a kid. You brought up as a kid, I used to be looking at.

[Ebro Darden]

Part of my childhood, frankly, was that we had these offensive linemen, maybe one of the greatest offensive lines of all time. Known as the Hogs. These big huge offensive linemen led to multiple Super Bowls for the Redskins.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

For some reason, someone in the fan base, because they were called the Hogs, their brand became the Hoggettes. And this group of fans, you know, probably just by the way, in retrospect, they were probably like 30 years old. They were like, we're just fans. We get drunk at the games, we wear pig noses dresses. And we're like their wives. Like, we're the Hoggettes. It was just like a goof, I guess. I don't even. I made up the wives.

[Rahsaan]

I'm seven years old, right.

[Ebro Darden]

And I'm a kid too. And I'm like, I don't know what's up?

[Rahsaan]

Eight years old. He's 83, 84. Nine years old.

[Ebro Darden]

Went all the way through the 80s. The Hoggettes were big. No one batted an eye.

[Rahsaan]

Not at all.

[Ebro Darden]

Not.

[Rahsaan]

But they were definitely cross dressed.

[Ebro Darden]

They were with the pig nose. Which makes it like cross species too.

[Rahsaan]

Well, yeah. It's almost like. What is that? It's not quite furries, but it's something else.

[Ebro Darden]

Close.

[Rahsaan]

Close.

[Ebro Darden]

Which is sort of like how I consider myself a trans New Yorker now. You know what I mean? I now consider myself from New York. Whether you consider it or not, Rosenberg is transition.

[Rahsaan]

But at any rate, when I saw this from Kristi Noem. So now it's. I don't know if it's making sense to you, but this is what's going on in your home, ma'. Am.

[Ebro Darden]

She just got fired, by the way.

[Rahsaan]

Reassigned.

[Ebro Darden]

She just got reassigned.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, fired from one job into another, but in the same government.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, you remember what her title was?

[Rahsaan]

Department of dhs? Secretary.

[Ebro Darden]

Secretary. Secretary.

[Rahsaan]

Did the commercials. Had the whole commercial scandal. Oh yeah, the whole thing. $300 million with her ad. Remember she was on horseback with the hat?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, yeah. And she'd always. She'd wear a baseball hat and look gangster and be seen. We're holding a gun.

[Rahsaan]

But she also had tons of plastic surgery to become the person that we see today. Like if you look at a side by side of what you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Those before and afters are dramatic.

[Rahsaan]

Maga fate. The whole maga face thing is a real mar a Lago face. The. So I'm into now I see this. I'm into the psychology of it.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, let's get into it.

[Rahsaan]

And I wanna. Do we have number 13? Rahsaan shout out to Amanda's mild takes on Instagram.

[Ebro Darden]

I love a mild take.

[Guest Speaker]

You know what? That's my fault for having a phone. The thing about this story. Actually.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Hold on.

[Guest Speaker]

I can't do this while the nipple is looking at me. Okay? The thing about this story that bothers me is not that he does this. I do not care that Kristi Noem's husband dresses up in drag and chats to online sex workers. I don't care. Do whatever you want. Thing I care about is that he did not even try to hide who he was. And when he gave these women his phone number, it was his real phone number, like, to his business, you know? This puts Christine Ohm's whole thing into a really gross, sad light. It was already gross and sad to think that she had destroyed her face with all of that plastic surgery to make Donald Trump happy. But now, knowing what her husband was, I don't like. Girl, maybe you should just get on your horse and gallop off into the sunset where there are none of these weird conservative men to talk to. You kidding? Don't go anywhere. We're still gonna send you to prison. But it'll be a women's prison, okay? So you won't have to look at your husband's props.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't.

[Guest Speaker]

At least Boobygate doesn't contain any war plans.

[Rahsaan]

Amanda's mild tape. She's a good follow, by the way. She does this thing every week where it's like Donald Trump's Ls of the week, where she runs through all of

[Ebro Darden]

the things because there's so many every

[Rahsaan]

week, every week that don't get coverage because we get the. What Donald Trump's trying to do headlines, or Donald Trump says headlines. And she always follows up with like, yeah, that didn't work. That didn't work. They stopped that. That's not working.

[Ebro Darden]

I just am. So you bring this up a lot. You know, when we're talking about something and you, like, yell like, guys, guys, why are we. Why are we even asking? The one that hit me this week, where I just sat there, like, I don't even know what to say was when he was talking about ending, you know, signing the executive orders to end mail in ballots, okay? Because he wants, you know, our elections to have integrity. Like, the fact that anyone could believe that this is being done for any reason other than the opposite of election integrity. Like, if you could actually believe that. I just don't know what there is to say.

[Rahsaan]

You have to keep saying to yourself. And this applies to even our more. You know, I don't know what I'm even calling this world. That is academics and all of. What do we call this world? It's not the real world. It's.

[Narrator/Reporter]

It's.

[Rahsaan]

No, no, no. What is it? Social media? What is we. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's the Internet.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah, the Internet. The hip hop Internet. The. Is it. It's not even the hip hop Internet Internet. What is it? What's the academics algorithm?

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, just that specifically.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah, what is that? Because there's. There is a hip hop Internet that. But it's not though, because the real hip hop Internet is actually breaking down samples and lyrics and, like, celebrating. Great. Because there is a real hip hop Internet that's like talking about awesome stuff. Yes. That is not the gossip.

[Ebro Darden]

Hip hop. Yeah, yeah. Hip hop gossip.

[Rahsaan]

Tabloid hip hop Internet. Let's go with tabloid hip hop Internet.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, what.

[Rahsaan]

Which we obviously with the narrative of us being lame, Right. And not really building something awesome, which we know we're doing is. Is in. In these spaces. Every accusation is a confession. Just like in the maga world. Just like Trump, everything they're saying is happening or others are doing is every time.

[Ebro Darden]

Don't forget that Drake. The Drake Bot accusation at Kendrick.

[Rahsaan]

Yes. Every accusation is a confession.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's really what I got out of this. Because when I was like, yo, the most hateful people, the ones that are so anti LGBTQ calling it a disease and this. There's. They're always hiding something. Just like the ones that are anti abortion. They're always hiding.

[Rahsaan]

Always.

[Ebro Darden]

You're right, it does. It's a. That is a tale. Oldest time. And it's the same thing, whether it's these people in the Kristi Noem story or Trump and the mail in voting, they know what they do.

[Rahsaan]

And let me bring it home even closer. You know how there's people out here who are like, real pause people. Like, it's not even a joke. It's like a yo. And they get angry and serious, like, yo, pause, my dude. Like, you're like, nah.

[Ebro Darden]

Because if you don't stop, I'm a straight up. Get erect, my guy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, my God.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, no, if you don't chill with that pause, I'm going to.

[Rahsaan]

And so you see where I'm. So you see where I'm going?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, no, you're.

[Rahsaan]

Which is like, yo.

[Ebro Darden]

No, you're being Serious, like you're being ser.

[Rahsaan]

You're angered by this. By this insinuation. That's not really a thing that we. We weren't even having the conversation that is on your mind.

[Ebro Darden]

And. No, and it wasn't even.

[Rahsaan]

But now you're angered by the insinuation that we possibly were kind of sort of maybe in the vicinity of a convo that you don't want to have because you're insecure about. So that work, whatever that is. And I don't have. I'm not, you know, qualified to. To give this a. A real, like, medical diagnosis.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. But whatever that is, it's the same thing.

[Rahsaan]

It's all the same thing, you know,

[Ebro Darden]

that's why that was a big part of my early trolling in radio. And I'm sure it did not win me favor with a certain part of the New York crowd.

[Rahsaan]

Oh, you're not from New York. And you're not from New York.

[Ebro Darden]

Is that. By the way, this is gonna go forever, no matter what. He's running with this forever. But. And I kind of do laugh every time, but my. My enjoyment of saying really homoerotic things to make people squirm. I. I'm not going to. I take sincere pleasure in it.

[Rahsaan]

Well, that's how it makes him. Unless we know, you know, this is documented. We got a Ill. LL Cool J. Rosenberg.

[Ebro Darden]

No, the bars. But now I feel bad doing that, only on account of I was. I don't know that he ever heard that part or cared, but I wouldn't. I wouldn't want to, like, you know, be disrespectful to ll. I love the guy.

[Rahsaan]

Well, no, he loves you, too. He called you even back then. He called you a meatball.

[Ebro Darden]

No, the meatball. By the way, we need the meatball drive. Is that in the thing?

[Rahsaan]

We have it. It's not any.

[Ebro Darden]

It's so disrespectful. So.

[Rahsaan]

Rosenberg. Meatball.

[Ebro Darden]

Meatball. And no, in the whole room laughing around him like, Dr. Evil. And I could hear Titi, like. I'm like, y' all are my friends.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah, but it's like calling somebody a biscuit, though.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, it was fine. It was fine. Meatball was a bit. And by the way, meatball and biscuit, delicious. But I do. I really enjoy that people get so weird about stuff like that.

[Rahsaan]

Well, so my point is with Gnome. Her husband, what Laura was saying with these people, hyper, concerned about other people's genitalia and what they do with it and who they fall in love with. Those are the most freaky deaky. You must keep an eye on individuals that there are. I know, the religious psychos who are hyper concerned with people's genitalia and who they fall in love with. Y' all are the most suspect individuals with walking.

[Laura Rosenberg]

My favorite part of this whole story, right. I don't care about people's fetishes. Right. Is that they're saying that the tip came from an undocumented immigrant who was part of. Was sexting with him.

[Ebro Darden]

I know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That is the bonus he was just collecting, so.

[Ebro Darden]

Wait, wait, you said the tip. AO Sorry, the tip came from an immigrant. Hey, pause.

[Rahsaan]

My guy. I need my dmx. Ao.

[Ebro Darden]

We knew that too. Yo.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He was, you know, he was paying big bucks. Yo, but how about $5,000?

[Ebro Darden]

To do what?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Cyber sex for cyber. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

You can't cyber for free.

[Laura Rosenberg]

My God.

[Rahsaan]

No, no, no. But you know, that's taxpayer money. Has to be.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Where is the money coming from?

[Rahsaan]

No, remember the Kristi Noem having to leave the position story is a $300 million expenditure paid for by us, the taxpayer, for her to create some sort of marketing and ad thing for dhs. Okay, so the commercial with her own horseback. Whatever. We paid $380 million for that. That money went to a business that had only been in existence for like 90 days. I might be screwing that up. So it was a new business that was started. That money, taxpayer money, got funneled to for a commercial. I guarantee that is a colleague of her husband's. And that money back door back to him.

[Ebro Darden]

And he's paying sex backdoor for sure.

[Rahsaan]

Hey, yo.

[Ebro Darden]

Meanwhile, on the Democratic side of things, you have someone like Al Franken who they find a picture of him from 1998 with a playmate overseas who he'd been palling around with, and he's jokingly, like, holding her boobs in a picture. And the man has to retire from Senate.

[Rahsaan]

How many years ago was that?

[Ebro Darden]

Six years ago now.

[Rahsaan]

No, that's before. I thought that was before nine years ago.

[Ebro Darden]

Is it 10 years ago?

[Rahsaan]

I think that was like 2015.

[Ebro Darden]

No, you might be right. And the other Democrats. And again, this is. I'm not even blaming the Democrats for having a strong moral conscience. I'm just saying, like, sometimes they literally. He was exiled from the party. Goodbye. We don't ever want to see you again. These people are out here doing the wildest right.

[Rahsaan]

But remember, remember, we are still living in a space where. And Laura, you see it all the time. We talk about it. Where Democrats expect each and every Democrat to Be flawless.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Perfect.

[Rahsaan]

Perfect.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Mm.

[Rahsaan]

Meanwhile, Republicans are out here wild. And if the individual that is wild is in a powerful enough position and sticks to whatever their code is and the agenda they're pushing, they're good to go.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. They don't care. They'll stick to. That's the power that they have, though, that no matter what, they will stick together. They're on code. Whatever their code is. Yes. Message.

[Emma Greed]

The.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They will not budge. Meanwhile, the Democrats are all cannibalizing each other and the Republicans and can't agree on one thing.

[Ebro Darden]

And the Republicans, their audience won't care. Think about what all the different things that Republicans focus.

[Rahsaan]

It's called being focused. And it's all, like you said, a. There's no shame. They don't care, and they're focused. The main dude, the face of their entire movement, Donald Trump, has literally, I mean, every accusation that you could have probably. There's murder accusations in the Epstein files, sexual assault of adults, as well as sexual assault of underagers.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, but the sexual assault of adults is beyond the Epstein files. He was essentially convicted of it for lying on the lady when he assaulted her in the department store.

[Rahsaan]

Lying about paying a porn star.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They don't care.

[Ebro Darden]

And being convicted while married, multiple ex

[Rahsaan]

wives, multiple baby mamas, still hits on

[Ebro Darden]

women while doing serious interviews on television. Right now. It doesn't matter.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It doesn't. They don't care. It doesn't matter.

[Rahsaan]

Real estate frauds, financial frauds. What else can you do? Tax fraud, I guess he hasn't. There's no allegations of selling illegal drugs. None of those allegations, I guess. What else could be on the list? Insurance fraud. That might even be on the list. I'm trying to think of crimes you could actually commit for an agent, but now he's alleged of that.

[Ebro Darden]

That's just alleged. That's just alleged, Louis.

[Rahsaan]

Well, all of these. Well, not all of them. Some have been committed. But I'm just pointing out that the face of the entire movement has. Has every type of crime either convicted of or alleged.

[Ebro Darden]

Hillary Clinton email is their number one. They literally chanted to send her to jail. There are people. There are people out there so extreme, if you bring up Hillary Clinton, they'll get violently angry, like she should die for all the things she's done. She literally used a different email account than her work email account.

[Rahsaan]

And by the way, Hillary's got some allegations for sure.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

The list ain't as long as Donald Trump.

[Ebro Darden]

What's her worst allegation, though?

[Rahsaan]

Well, you got money related well, the Clinton foundation in Haiti.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's a big one.

[Ebro Darden]

And really, her misappropriated funds in Haiti.

[Laura Rosenberg]

What? Yes.

[Rahsaan]

Tons of stuff.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Bad.

[Rahsaan]

Tons of stuff.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

And people that they've been in business with who were, like, trafficking children and you know, how.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, how. How confirmed an accusation is that? You mean Epstein? Are you. Epstein files?

[Rahsaan]

No, I think this is outside the

[Ebro Darden]

Epstein that people that they have.

[Rahsaan]

People that they did business with were either in the Epstein files or what. Whatever. That incestuous.

[Ebro Darden]

But the political thing that happened. Hillary was not those things.

[Rahsaan]

No, no, it was.

[Ebro Darden]

It was emails.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It was the email.

[Ebro Darden]

It was emails.

[Rahsaan]

But I'm just saying, like, we can. We can take all the allegations that everyone has is all I'm saying, and put them. List them. The main guy of your movement, if you are really locked into this maga, GOP conservative thing, has a laundry list of crimes, the most egregious, all the way up to murder. And y' all are good with it. Good with it. Like, comfortable.

[Ebro Darden]

You know, and at least according to court, you know, he sexually assaulted a woman. We know that.

[Rahsaan]

And so when I see this Kristi Noem thing, I say it again, this level of freaky deaky. And see, even this was exposed by an immigrant sex worker. Shout out to. Here's why. Kevin. Shout out to Kevin over there. We like him. Yes, but even that. Who cares? Who cares? Who cares that the person was an immigrant? Who cares?

[Ebro Darden]

Because. Because, you know, it adds a layer. It adds a layer that these are the people. The people that his wife is specifically going after. He's fetishizing and doing sexual.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's just.

[Rahsaan]

It's another layer, I guess. But to me, it sounds like you're trying to discredit the individual because they've tried to make immigrants.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, no, I don't think it's that

[Rahsaan]

or documented a bad thing.

[Ebro Darden]

I think it came from the left. I think. I think the left is exposing that to point out the hypocrisy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes, that's how I see it, too.

[Rahsaan]

Fine.

[Ebro Darden]

Like finding out the racist girlfriend was black. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, it's one of those.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah, yeah, it's. But. But you guys are fetishing. You guys are fetishizing, right? That's the whole deal. Laura, what you got coming up in the rundown?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, a lot to talk about. I have some big Beyonce news.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't even know about this yet.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, we're gonna talk about Beyonce.

[Ebro Darden]

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[Rahsaan]

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[Laura Rosenberg]

Megan Thee, stallion, had a scare. I'll tell you what happened later on brand new cardi b interview. This one's really, really interesting. And then some brandy drama. Her new book is coming out and there's. There's some stuff in there that people are like, wait a second.

[Rahsaan]

Well, before we do that. Rosenberg has been a staunch anti Duke individual since high school. How long have you hated Duke?

[Ebro Darden]

No, no college.

[Rahsaan]

So you see the Maryland.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, yeah, Maryland Duke at that time, the Division 97, we were in the conference together. We're not anymore. But the Maryland Duke thing in the late 90s was epic.

[Rahsaan]

And does it still run in. Is that venom that. That vitriol still in the fabric of who you are?

[Ebro Darden]

Sure, it's. I can't lie and say it hasn't faded a tad now that we're not in the same conference. But I do openly root against Duke,

[Rahsaan]

of course, and anybody that's on the team.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

And fathers of.

[Ebro Darden]

Except Zion.

[Rahsaan]

Zion.

[Ebro Darden]

I like Zion. Okay, but it's different.

[Rahsaan]

Kyrie.

[Ebro Darden]

I like Kyrie, too. But, you know, the first time I ever met Kyrie, he was like, I know you. The Duke video. And I was like, I like you. He was like, that was hilarious. And I was like, see, I knew I liked this Kyrie.

[Rahsaan]

Well, let's see if we can help Rosenberg fall in love with this story. Go to clip number 10, please, for me there.

[Ebro Darden]

What is this?

[Narrator/Reporter]

Former NBA player Carlos Boozer and his wife Cece Boozer have twin boys, Cameron and Kaden. They were born specifically to save the life of their older brother, Carmani. He was diagnosed with sickle cell before he was even born. Doctors gave treatment recommendations, but their mom, Cece, didn't like those recommendations. So she took matters into her own hands, did her own research, found out that a bone marrow transplant could cure her son. But it had to be from a perfect match, ideally a sibling. So Cece and Carlos made the decision to conceive via ivf. They selected embryos that would be a Perfect match without carrying the disease. When Carmani was 15 months old, his twin brothers were born. Stem cells were taken from their blood and their umbilical cord for the transplant. He spent 40 days in the hospital. The treatment was complete, and he was completely cured. Fast forward to today. Cameron and Kaden Boozer are now competing on one of the biggest stages in sports, the NCAA tournament. And they play for Duke University, which is the same school that their dad, Carlos Boozer, played for.

[Rahsaan]

Beautiful.

[Ebro Darden]

Wow.

[Narrator/Reporter]

This is a real dope story to me, Rosenberg.

[Rahsaan]

Dope story. I mean, you feel nothing.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean. No, no, you feel nothing. I know the story already. I. It's, it's. It's a very cool story.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

So. So was the older sibling. The older sibling was helped by this. Yeah, it did the job. Yes. That. That's amazing. It's a shame then, though, that one of those kids came all this way just to make that terrible pass and cost Duke in the game. That was. Nah, that was one of the boozers who threw that shitty pass that was intercepted and led to the three pointer by Mullins to end the game.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, my God.

[Rahsaan]

Rosenberg's a bad guy.

[Ebro Darden]

No, listen. Good for them, though. It is nice.

[Rahsaan]

Nah, you're back. Yo.

[Ebro Darden]

He named you guys. He named his kid Cameron Boozer after Cameron Indoor Arena.

[Rahsaan]

What's wrong with you?

[Ebro Darden]

He named. Because why are Duke people like this? It's not enough that you went to Duke, you have to name your kid after the arena that they play in. I'm surprised he didn't name one of the kids Coach K. Boozer Ski Boozer.

[Rahsaan]

Well, and then when you. When I was hearing it, I was like, nah, it's a beautiful story. Now I stopped and thought about. I was like, wait, they got to select embryos? Yeah. Wait, so they.

[Ebro Darden]

So did I.

[Rahsaan]

So they knew these kids were going to be like these super athletes. I. Out the door. Like that was a part of the plan.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I mean, I don't know if you can do that. Right. Is it just sex?

[Ebro Darden]

No. All you can do. Well, back then, first of all, back then, I'm sure 18 years ago, I'm sure they had much less.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Now you can do eye color. You can do all kinds of stuff back then. I don't know what you could do. I know that for us, all that we were aware of in our IVF process was the gender of embryos. And then they run testing on said embryos to let, you know, some basic health stuff.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

However, when we had Maya, we knew we had seven good embryos they grade the embryos.

[Rahsaan]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

We had a multitude that were very viable. Thank God. God bless. So, so thankful for it. And one of them, they said, was like, an A. They were like, a's are very rare. Like, this is like.

[Rahsaan]

And that's one y' all pick.

[Ebro Darden]

No, that was a male. So when we said, you guys pick. We want a surprise. We don't know what we want to have. We said, y' all pick.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

That's why when we did our little gender reveal with the dogs on the beach, we were sincerely so overwhelmed, because in our minds, we're going, they're gonna pick the A embryo, right? And the A embryo is a boy. So when we saw Pink, we were like, no way. We were still legitimately surprised, even though we had the choice. But next time, we will either choose or we can say, bring that A.

[Rahsaan]

Let's get to the bag. Or.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. We don't know what he's capable of.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You know?

[Rahsaan]

I mean, get him in the world. Or.

[Ebro Darden]

Or we just say, do you guys want to, you know, let them choose again and let it be and let it feel like. Because we liked the feeling of, you know, the randomness. There is something different about choosing. But now everyone expects that we should choose a boy next time, right? Like, you have a girl, then you have a boy, and you call it a day if you wanted.

[Rahsaan]

So now that this is documented, whatever you A, we got confirmation, ladies and gentlemen, there will be another child. We just got it.

[Ebro Darden]

That's not confirmation. I'd say it's leaning. Although I'll tell you what. This is how on the fence we are. I saw my vet the other day because I went to get bear's nails clipped. She was asking about the baby and are we gonna have another one? And she was like, man, I walked past this family just now, and she was. She has two kids, 6 and 4. And she was like. And they were sitting there with their one child, and she was like. I was like, oh, man. One child was the business. Like, that was so good. And I was like, really? You feel that way? She was like, it's just exponentially harder. Like, it's just. Our whole life was different. And I brought up Laura. I was like, we do have close friends who have won. And I'm not gonna lie, from the outside, their life does look pretty money. Like, it's selfishly. When I think about my life, I want another child, but, like, I want to have a good life, you know, we're allowed to choose.

[Rahsaan]

Listen, whatever a. Whatever a embryo Rosenberg, whoever you are. And whenever you're going to get a. Your father. Your father loves you, and that's why they chose for you to be here, despite scheduling issues and what it did to change the dynamics of the house.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right. And space.

[Rahsaan]

Love was stronger. And love wins.

[Ebro Darden]

Love won.

[Rahsaan]

Whenever you get here and we meet you, we're going to love you.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Rahsaan]

Regardless of whatever you just heard your dad say.

[Ebro Darden]

Right? Little Coal Field House, Rosenberg. That's where Maryland used to play.

[Rahsaan]

Let's get to the rundown. Laura got the rundown.

[Ebro Darden]

Turn that up. Screens on Glow when she pull up headlines. Heavy, but we still.

[Rahsaan]

Still caught up. Still flashing. We don't slow.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All right, so the Beyonce news that I was excited about turns out to be fake. Yeah. Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

But I just read it. You sent it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I know.

[Ebro Darden]

I just looked at it right now.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Our production team sent it to me, and I was excited. We even put the video in the system.

[Rahsaan]

Well, that's the second time this week. Laura Styles, and I'm like, Styles. Was encouraged to announce that Leno Messi of Argentina and great soccer stardom was autistic by our crack production team. Maybe she got fried on the Internet because it's an Internet rumor and he's not.

[Ebro Darden]

Maybe she. Maybe she meant artistic.

[Rahsaan]

Well, he is artistic with the ball.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So, yeah, there was a big rumor that Beyonce's dropping her Cowboy Carter tour film coming to Disney plus. But, yes, I was just informed. Yeah, it was fake. It was just a really good one. But you know what? I feel like something like that might be coming.

[Rahsaan]

And by the way, believable.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

Just like Lionel Messi being autistic.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And by the way, when. When he came, when he was brought up, we were talking about exceptional people.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

And. Right. And that's exactly the context it was brought. I'm glad you reminded me.

[Ebro Darden]

So there's no doc?

[Laura Rosenberg]

No. As of right now, no, there's no doc.

[Rahsaan]

And even if you're autistic, you can be a great soccer star.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes. So that, of course, is true. I really wish we had the R. Kelly Artisan drop right now, but.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, my God. So, you know, I. We didn't talk about this yesterday, but I told you guys how I went to go see Meg, Megan, Thee Stallion, and Moulin Rouge, how great she was. But, guys, yesterday I saw a couple of people that were at the show tweeting that she came out, they started the show, and like, a few minutes into the show, they were like, they. They brought down the curtains and they were like, everyone stay in their seats.

[Emma Greed]

We're. We're having a.

[Laura Rosenberg]

An emergency. And then it turns out that something we don't know yet.

[Ebro Darden]

They said she fell ill. She was.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And then they say she was rushed to the hospital.

[Rahsaan]

So she comes out on stage, starts the show.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

In the middle of the show.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Rahsaan]

Feels ill enough to where it's like, yo, no hospital.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

Not like, hey, we need to hydrate. Tonight's a bad night. Because think about that. You're middle of a show. It's enough to say hospital.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's why I was like, man. But can I tell you something? I also feel you guys, Broadway is hard work. Two shows a day, guys giving it your all. I could see how.

[Rahsaan]

Well, not two shows every day.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. But a few days.

[Laura Rosenberg]

A few days.

[Rahsaan]

I think it's two shows Saturday.

[Ebro Darden]

No, they have weekday ones, too. There's matinees during the week.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It just depends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But there's a lot of mat. I went to matinee on Saturday, so I know there was like a 2 o' clock and an 8 o', clock, so. But, you know, usually it's like. Okay, let's just say there's. There's only two shows on Saturday. You still do Monday through. No, it's Tuesday through Sunday. Right. Rosenberg on Broadway.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Tuesday through Sunday. Yeah. One day off.

[Ebro Darden]

No shows on Monday. Right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So it's a lot of work.

[Rahsaan]

Hell, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Sunday and Wednesday, it's two shows, I believe.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay, okay. But see, it's a lot of work. I don't think people realize how hard that is. So I see a world where she could have gotten dizzy and passed out from exhaustion or dehydration. We don't know. But I'm praying that she's okay, man.

[Rahsaan]

Meg get better.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. Yes.

[Rahsaan]

You know, this is. And hopefully she comes back to it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I hope so.

[Rahsaan]

Right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Because it's so much fun.

[Ebro Darden]

I. I would think it's. I would think it's an exhaustion situation. Yeah. A combination. And when it happens in that moment, it's so overwhelming. And it's like, I hope everything's fine.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Me too. Me too. All right, guys, I don't know if you guys saw this floating around, but Cardi B. Sat down for an interview. I haven't seen her doing any promo because she's been on tour, but she sat down for an interview with Emma Greed.

[Rahsaan]

Now.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Now, I haven't seen the whole interview. I'm just gonna tell you this right now. So I'm just pulling clips That I thought were cool, but I can't wait to watch this.

[Rahsaan]

So what's the podcast called? Do we know Emma Greed's part? Let me look it up. Hang on. Because I. I know.

[Ebro Darden]

How about you watch. We watched the clip, and you pulled the.

[Rahsaan]

All right. Yeah, let's do it simultaneously. Good.

[Emma Greed]

Call out this music. Like, I have to turn my personality, and I got to put it in the music, and I got to put it in the music video. Even with that, I was like, aspire with Emma grid influencers that they were, like, really funny at the time. I had to pay them, and I was just, like, kind of upset. Like, it's like, damn, I'm gonna have $2,000 left when I'm finished with this. But it's like I was saying. I was saying myself. Like, it's like, if I get a million. If I get a million views on YouTube, I can make about $30,000 with this music video. And people would take me more serious as an artist because some people think. Some people think that when you start off in a reality show and when you're really funny like me, it's really hard to convince people that you're being serious. It's like, yeah, yeah, you want to do music. And it's like, no, I really want to do music. Like, I went to so many different labels, and it was just like, oh, this person tried to. This person, a reality show tried to do music. It didn't work out. So I'm not really sure. We want to see what it looked like after the TV show airs out, and we want to see how does that go for you? And it's like, you know what? Fine. I don't need your money. I just invest it on myself.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, I'll just do it myself.

[Emma Greed]

I just do it on myself. Even, like, the money that I was getting from love and hip hop, I was investing it all in my music. And like, sometimes I really. I wanted to buy a. I wanted to buy a. A chain. I wanted to buy a nice chanel bag. I want. I wanted that. But it's like this first. Like this first. And I was so committed, and it

[Rahsaan]

happened for me, and, well. And Emma Greed is a founding partner in skims with Kim Kardashian, and then she has some other endeavors as well. And so I. I met her at the skims event when they opened the store here in New York City and was introduced to her by our friend June Ambrose. Okay, Right. So Emma's really in the fashion kind of, you know, starting business game like, that's her thing.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Rahsaan]

And it's dope that. First of all, shout out to Emma. She's super nice person. But I think that podcast is the people she has on there and the conversation she has, especially for, like, entrepreneurs or young. Young women trying to come up, or even conversations like that where you see Cardi B. Talking about her level of focus that she had to have to get where she is today.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. In business. Because I'm sure I saw some clips where she was just basically talking about her new hair care line and, like, why she did it. And, you know, one thing that I saw that was interesting that she mentioned, she's, like, after the divorce. So that means she's divorced, Done. It's done. I'm assuming she's like, I'm a different person now. I'm investing in myself.

[Ebro Darden]

But, you know, it doesn't mean it's

[Rahsaan]

done, though, because it could work.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, just meaning the page, like, it's in the process. Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

Because you.

[Ebro Darden]

Once you officially file, months go by, then you get the thing that's like, you're divorced. So whether or not they received that

[Laura Rosenberg]

or not, the official certificate, which, by

[Ebro Darden]

the way, meets different people in different ways depending on your circumstance.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Gotcha.

[Ebro Darden]

But I. I just. I can't emphasize enough how much, like, I am loving this Cardi Run. I know I've already done this. I've already given her flowers multiple times. I really just wanted to see one and be my friend because she's so popular in my household.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

My wife loves Cardi so much.

[Rahsaan]

And same jazz is all the way in.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. Like, Natalie's a huge Cardi person. And, you know, for me, I completely doubted her at first. When Ebro first brought the mixtape, I was like, the girl from Love and Hip Hop. What are we doing? And then I remember when you played it that first day, I was like, she got a little. She fits in here. Like, she can catch a well and

[Rahsaan]

she's got a story to tell.

[Ebro Darden]

She can catch a beat. But I didn't care at the time because her brand. I didn't watch Love and Hip Hop, so the things that made her funny didn't strike me. But I didn't and I didn't know. And I didn't follow her on Social,

[Rahsaan]

So that was the thing for me. I didn't watch Love and Hip Hop.

[Ebro Darden]

You saw the Social?

[Rahsaan]

Well, I just knew about her from being around, you know, being on Instagram and the stuff she was doing in the city. Like, I didn't know, you know, For. Because if you were paying attention in New York City at that time, clubs especially like Sue's Rendezvous and that whole world DJs going up there. And this girl that was like getting into it with people on social media before loving hip hop, right? It was already a thing already.

[Ebro Darden]

And so I just missed the boat. Long story short, I missed the boat.

[Rahsaan]

Can't wait a moment.

[Ebro Darden]

So when I first heard her like going, I was like, oh, this is pretty cool. And then when you start seeing how funny she was, then it turns out, oh, she's also like on the right side of history and really enjoys politics and does the work and is interested in history and is a good human. She just seems like a good human. And then to see this run of the tour because I then, then the doubt came back again. Because after seven years and me loving Mad singles, I'm like, she's never dropping her album. And when she does drop guys now it's taking too long, it's gonna be too hard. The album comes out, it's great. And then the tour is this entertaining. I Yo, I think Cardi, one day, I think in her future could be a fantastic one woman show on Broadway. You wanna talk about Broadway? I think the card. I think Cardi's story as a one woman show on Broadway, like hyper produced with all from the strip club. You have the strip club.

[Rahsaan]

Yo, Lin Manuel. This is it, right? Yo, written by Lin Manuel Miranda and Cardi B.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That would be fire. That'll be fire.

[Ebro Darden]

I could really see that for her. It's really cool to see shout outs to Cardi.

[Rahsaan]

Well, and Laura, how are we doing on our alignment with her hair care products for the El Army?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Wait, are you spilling the beans?

[Guest Speaker]

Because we're work.

[Laura Rosenberg]

We got plans.

[Rahsaan]

Oh, sorry, my bad.

[Ebro Darden]

So things are in the works.

[Rahsaan]

My bad, my bad.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He's coming.

[Rahsaan]

I forgot we didn't tell people.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, come on, man.

[Rahsaan]

Listen, man, I can't keep track of him.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He's so loose.

[Ebro Darden]

No, he's loose. Ebro's is loose in this country.

[Rahsaan]

And by the way, think of the amount of secrets I've kept in the last two weeks, right?

[Ebro Darden]

Hanging out with ye Paul McCartney. Yo, did. If you got them together, they could have done that joint together. I love that record, by the way.

[Rahsaan]

What was that called?

[Ebro Darden]

Four or five seconds?

[Rahsaan]

That was what, about four, five.

[Ebro Darden]

Rihanna was on that smiling, remember? I did. I was very proud of myself because I took the. The big beat by Billy Squire and just put it under it to give it like some movement. Yo, you put a drum under that song because it's completely acoustic. So it just. Where you're gonna listen to it is kind of odd, but you get a little fire.

[Rahsaan]

All right, guys, I'm tired of talking about you today.

[Ebro Darden]

Is that really me? I was talking about Kanye.

[Rahsaan]

All right, so Cardi B Tonight turned into talking about you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, now we're talking about Brandy. So Brandy has a new memoir called Phases that's dropping so all around the Internet. It's a specific thing that's caught people's attention where she talks about dating Wanye Morris when she was 16 years old and he was 22. But she does say, in retrospect, that she was a child back then and he was an adult. So people are. Are. Are taking it as if he took advantage of her at the time. Now, mind you, she does mention that her parents had no idea it was all secret.

[Rahsaan]

Well, in the framing of it, I'm

[Laura Rosenberg]

assuming at the beginning it was secret.

[Rahsaan]

The framing of it. Also from Brandi, the quote I saw, and I don't know if this is the legitimate quote, was that she said, I'm tired of being silent, as if someone was telling her not to talk about her experience. So I didn't read the book, just saw the quote and then saw the blowback.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

So I think that frame.

[Ebro Darden]

Which way was the blowback, though? Was the blowback at Wanye or people doubting Brandi? Like, what was the.

[Rahsaan]

The blowback was at. At Wanye and kind of our culture.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Rahsaan]

Maybe blowback's the wrong word because it wasn't really, like, conversation doesn't feel like they're mad at Wanye either.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, some are and some aren't. Some are like, you were 16 years old. Some people were like, I'm sorry. I knew what I was doing when I was 16 years old. And then some people are like, wait, 16 and 22. That's quite the gap if he's, you know, he's a grown man. So it's the conversation. I see both sides.

[Rahsaan]

I. I was. I am old enough to have been in media when this took place, because. What year is this? 95. 6.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

4. 9, 9.

[Ebro Darden]

5. 96. Brandy wasn't out till mid-90s.

[Rahsaan]

I don't even recall a convo, because there was definitely convos about Aaliyah and R. Kelly. That was a convo in the.

[Guest Speaker]

Sure.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, she was. She was 13 or 14, and he was 27. Right.

[Rahsaan]

And they got married, and they got

[Ebro Darden]

14 and 27, and they got married. At the time, it Was why a big convo.

[Rahsaan]

I don't. Until Brandi says this the other day. I didn't know that that was the age thing with them.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, I didn't know you there.

[Rahsaan]

No. That brokenhearted record, playing it all the time. I love that record that they have, that duet that they have. Incredible.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, she claims the romance stem from that session.

[Rahsaan]

From that session. And, and even today, like when we talk about, you know, a high school girl dating a college boy or a high school boy dating a college girl, that sounds problematic. You're like, not don't like it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I go back to remember I told you guys how I'll be on the phone cursing out a guy that kept calling my little sister at 16 and he was 21 and me cursing him out. I'm like, what? What do you have in common with a 16 year old? Why are you calling her?

[Rahsaan]

And on. And now if it was my daughter, I'd be the same way. But on the outside, when you see two R B superstars dating, they're working in the same industry, does it still hit the same.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, the problem is we re litigate these things 30 years later and everyone can get on their high horse. But you remove what the situation actually felt like.

[Rahsaan]

Well, and that's why I bring up the R and B superstar thing. Because if it was like wan Ye's dating 16 year old high school girl.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

You'd be like, nah, this ain't it. But Randy and Wan yay of boys to start dating.

[Ebro Darden]

But by the way, no one thought of boys to men as being old then either. They were kid. They were basically kids when their first record came out. This is a few years later. This is three years later. They had been literally teenagers when Motown Philly came out. So no one's going, oh, they're old. You just didn't.

[Rahsaan]

It didn't feel that way. And I don't want this to come off like we're excusing it or anything. I'm just trying to remember it.

[Ebro Darden]

You're just being honest about how you

[Rahsaan]

remember it feeling remember.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, also, everyone is full of ish and we none of us know the situation. We weren't there for it. And half the people watching this right now have parents where their dad was in college and their mom was in high school and they. So you pick and choose how you want.

[Rahsaan]

But also Brandy's at mom now, right. Herself. And I don't know how old her daughter is. So I'm sure some of this comes from her thinking back on. Yeah, I think she went through as a young girl in the game, and

[Ebro Darden]

maybe she really felt that, and it triggers her.

[Rahsaan]

Like, wait a minute, Was I taken advantage of? Was I clearly aware of what was going on? Even if I did move and lie to my parents or withhold information from my parents, which is weird because it was like, how did I know when your parents didn't know? I'm just in me.

[Ebro Darden]

Didn't people kind of know?

[Rahsaan]

I thought people talked about it publicly. So whatever it is. But whatever Brandi's pain is, I think we don't want to also minimize that.

[Ebro Darden]

No. Because if she really felt that way and that's how she remembers it, as a traumatic thing, that was not good for her. We're certainly not gonna be the ones who tell her not to feel that way.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Of course not.

[Ebro Darden]

But considering none of us know anything and we're just, like, looking at the story from the outside on Twitter, everyone will make it cut and dry. Wanye's terrible. Or that's fine. When really there's a lot of gray.

[Rahsaan]

One, I think was really terrible. And the real awakening here is who we are culturally in the United States. I think that's the real microscope here, is what we deem okay and how we've evolved to look at things retrospectively and say, not okay, but things change.

[Ebro Darden]

And you can't apply the same.

[Rahsaan]

But I think that's part of the learning. That's what I'm saying.

[Ebro Darden]

But that's what people don't understand on social. Because they'll think we're all monsters even for having this conversation. But when you watch. I'm re watching Mad Men. If you're watching Mad Men, the show that's happening in the 60s, and you apply what we now know to every conversation there. You bet these people are.

[Rahsaan]

You're being, like, smart and logical. That doesn't apply to the Internet.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it just has to be, get him up out of here.

[Rahsaan]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

30 years ago, him and Brandi.

[Rahsaan]

Beat it.

[Ebro Darden]

I just don't know.

[Rahsaan]

I can't believe you said all this. Rosenberg.

[Ebro Darden]

But I hope they found whatever it is. I hope you know.

[Rahsaan]

And if you're angry about what you just heard. Ebro Laura Rosenberg at Gmail. We'll put you on Friday. Freedom. Freedom Friday. Family.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes, but that's it. That's the rundown.

[Ebro Darden]

It's a hell of a rundown today.

[Rahsaan]

The intro is the intro. Let's get into it. She had to run down. Yo, can you put up the slides? Rahsaan number six for Me, sir. This is Ebro. Laura Rosenberg, the Super Chat. Did we handle the super Chat business that we messed up? Well, somebody gave us 500, and we didn't even shout them out.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, my God. Yeah, I didn't see it.

[Ebro Darden]

I. I heard this. I was. Of course not there. Do you have a slide for it? Or you want me to just look at. Look it up right now?

[Rahsaan]

No, we gotta look it up.

[Ebro Darden]

All right, I have it, though.

[Rahsaan]

Oh, Here we go.

[Ebro Darden]

Mr. Eatwell.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Mr. Eat well. Wow.

[Ebro Darden]

$499.

[Rahsaan]

Wow.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Mr.

[Ebro Darden]

I may take that. I might just put that right in my pocket.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, my God.

[Rahsaan]

But wait, why? Because if it was 500, you. I don't. I'm stuck on how'd you end up at 499?

[Ebro Darden]

He said, yo, it's Matt with Mr. Eatwell. I didn't forget about your custom watches.

[Rahsaan]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

I remember him saying he was gonna send us to realize the future America needs. We understand what's needed from us to face each threat head on. We've earned our place in the fight for our nation's future. We are Marines. We were made for this.

[Laura Rosenberg]

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[Ebro Darden]

Watch this.

[Rahsaan]

I don't remember this.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm going through a divorce. Don't cry for me. Everybody's happy. And I just finished a 48 hour run where I went from being yelled at by Jay Electronica in public at his show in Portland to then spending the next 48 hours with him and his team. I got you, Griffin. Get at me.

[Rahsaan]

I don't know. I don't understand.

[Ebro Darden]

No, listen, you sound like an interesting guy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's a lot.

[Ebro Darden]

And I'm using interesting incredibly liberally here.

[Rahsaan]

No, he gave us $499. You're a very interesting. The most interesting man in the world.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, this is a very interesting situation. I will say this, though. I totally understand with J Elect, with what his personality is like, how you could quickly go from the guy he's yelling at on the street to spending 48. That. Like that. That does line up with J Elect.

[Rahsaan]

And also, he may not have actually been yelling. He might have just been talking aggressively. And loud.

[Ebro Darden]

That is also possible. But, yo, thank you, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, thank you, Matt.

[Ebro Darden]

That's super cool. Good luck with your divorce. Glad everybody's happy about it. God bless.

[Rahsaan]

Now back to these slides. I want to show the. Show the world right now, or our world. Let's call it number six. Yeah. These are some slides that have been popping up on my social media as we. On Ebro's Algo, if you will, as we approach the midterm 2028. Damn hopeful scramble for distance from APAC with Corey Booker up there.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Look at his face.

[Ebro Darden]

I think my dad wrote about this yesterday.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, I do.

[Rahsaan]

I'm gonna pull this up now simultaneously. And I'll get it. I'll get you guys some. Some. Some documentation. There is a whole movement being funded by a Democratic donor, billionaire donor, to get Democrats to aggressively distance themselves away from Zoran. Oh, and Democrats trying to tear down Zoran. The Hassan Piker. Is that how you say his name? The Hassan Piker? Influencer. Tear down. So that they can make sure that the quote, unquote, leftists, progressives, stay out of the Democratic coalition. So remember this. And I want. This is. I'm putting in layman's terms. This is how my brain thinks of this. You have Democrats who want to be more centrist and cozy with Republicans. The same Republicans, not all of which approve, but many are aligned with the MAGA that we have right now. And they believe that they're going to pull those centrist Republicans over into the Democratic coalition and the independent coalition into the Democratic coalition. And they're trying to distance themselves away from the more progressive left on the spectrum. Democrats. That's the battleground as we get into the midterms. Remember, Zoran Mamdani, to centrist Democrats, was the bad guy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Rahsaan]

They did not support him.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's how they feel about King Jeffries,

[Rahsaan]

aoc.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I said that's how they feel.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes, yes, but even more so about Zoron. He scares them even more. My dad wrote presidential candidates suddenly progressive on Israel. M.J. rosenberg, substack, if it interests you. He says that Alex B. Kane wrote a smart, revealing piece in Jewish Currents about the sudden and very convenient evolution of the leading Democratic presidential hopefuls on Israel. The headline question he's really asking is whether any of this is real. Five years ago, most of these same politicians were lining up behind AIPAC talking points, signing letters opposing even the mildest conditions on military aid to Israel. Today, with Gaza flattened and Democratic voters having moved sharply away from Israel and towards sympathy for Palestinians, those same Figures are discovering a newfound willingness to criticize Israel. So yeah, it's questioning how much of this. Chris Van Hollen of Maryland, who I've always liked, J.B. pritzker of Illinois, and Gavin Newsom of California, all 20, 28 contenders potentially have all moved to varying degrees towards criticism of Israel. But then of course, you saw Gavin Newsom completely backed off of it too. Like he can't make up his mind.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He knows what is it.

[Rahsaan]

Well, no, Laura, this is what you guys and everybody who El army pay attention to here. This is all about billionaires and narratives and individuals that they can get to be cozy with elites and billionaires. J.B. pritzker's a billionaire. Like I'm not. That's not even like his family. They got.

[Ebro Darden]

They literally have billions.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah, Gavin Newsom's always been aligned with elites and billionaires. I'm not saying I dislike either in either individual. I'm just saying this is about money. Because centrist Democrats and independents and centrist Republicans are all about keeping the wealth. Now they're going to have policy that helps the working class. They're going to have policy that, you know, does little things that we all would like. But are they going to be Zoran, Mom, Donnie level of taxing the billionaires and getting more money into the middle class and helping the lower class and these other institutions actually get people out of poverty into the middle class? I don't know if they're really willing to go that far. And that's the rub you got to pay attention to.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, it's twofold.

[Rahsaan]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

Because you're talking about on the economic side of policy, but that also directly relates to their boldness to mess with billionaires opinions on things like Israel. Right. We are at a time where you have to have a bold stance here. This is the. You wanna talk about the white moderate that Dr. King was talking about.

[Rahsaan]

This is it.

[Ebro Darden]

This is it. The true white moderate failing people is to come out as a Democrat right now and not be outright against what Israel's doing. If you can't be outright clear like, nope, I'm out not doing it, I'll

[Rahsaan]

go a step further.

[Ebro Darden]

That's a problem.

[Rahsaan]

If you can't come out outright and say, right now America has financial problems and the only way we're going to fix it is if the richest pay more in taxes. And the other way we're going to fix it is if corporations pay more in taxes. And the other way we're going to fix it is if corporations have more regulations.

[Ebro Darden]

And so Is there a bang or one candidate who will do this?

[Rahsaan]

I don't know.

[Ebro Darden]

Because that ain't Gavin Newsom, right?

[Rahsaan]

I don't think so. I mean, and even if they say it, you got to look at their resume from the past to see if they're going to be able to hold the line.

[Ebro Darden]

The scary thing is, and when this comes out of my mouth, it's not going to sound right, but you guys know what I'm saying? The left needs their Trump. The left needs their Trump. By that I mean the person who plainly says what this whole mob of people is saying on the right. What they really cared about, we found out, was a lot of racist ideology that they wanted to go back to. We need the true. The guy who has. Or woman who has that it factor and is truly saying the things that people care about.

[Rahsaan]

But also unkept promises. Right. Because as soon as you said we need our Trump, the first thing. Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

You mean someone who doesn't do anything. Well, by the way.

[Rahsaan]

And that's problematic.

[Ebro Darden]

It is. And in the end, from what we know in American history, it may end up being that. But in theory, you need someone who gets out there. And by the main thing I really mean though, is sadly, because this is how we operate. We saw this with the mayoral election because we liked. We all liked Zoron.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

We also liked Scott Stringer. We also liked pragmatic, real progressives. Guess what? They're not the cult of personality.

[Rahsaan]

Zoron got that.

[Ebro Darden]

Zoron's got that. And like, I wish it wasn't he also.

[Rahsaan]

But also he had youth and he also had social media.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I think he's also. And it works out because he's a good man. I think he happens to be a good man. I really do.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He's great with messaging.

[Rahsaan]

Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's it.

[Rahsaan]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Democrats suck at messaging. And I don't understand how they haven't called Zoran to be like, you'll give you some tips because.

[Rahsaan]

No, because they want to destroy Zoran.

[Ebro Darden]

Awful.

[Rahsaan]

They don't want Zoran because Zoron scares the billionaires and scares the elites because they're trying to figure out a way to keep more money in their pocket. That's what all of this noise comes down to. Who controls the money.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. And if there's not a candidate, I just don't know who it would be. Who is going to run?

[Rahsaan]

We'll see. We'll see.

[Ebro Darden]

That is not enough.

[Rahsaan]

But I also want to. But I also want to put this out there for Everyone. You may not get it. You likely won't get it in a presidential candidate, what we're talking about, but

[Ebro Darden]

can you get it in a lot?

[Rahsaan]

And that's, by the way, like any other relationship in your life, relationship with your career relationship, relationship with your significant other, you're going to have to come to terms that it ain't going to be perfect, whoever the candidate is. Okay. However will the candidate be someone who wants to make the relationship better, Right. Because you can be with. You could fall in love with someone and you're like, yo, I don't like this. I really like this. But you know what? They're working at it. They want to be better. They actually believe in the possibility. So.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, that's Barack. That's Barack. Barack wasn't some great all time progressive, but you believed he did want to push it the right way. You believe that.

[Rahsaan]

But like, for jazz, that's me. Am I the perfect candidate?

[Ebro Darden]

No, she settled. Let's be honest.

[Rahsaan]

But by the way, she's constantly working on me, and I'm open to doing the work.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, hit the outro music. I don't know if you get better than that. We'll hit a good guru tomorrow, though, on FOB Friday.

[Laura Rosenberg]

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[Ebro Darden]

Nah, I know Natalie feels the same way. Look, is he. He's not. He's far from perfect. But this, this. He listens, right?

[Rahsaan]

At least we can have a convo.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. He likes good music, right?

[Rahsaan]

He takes.

[Ebro Darden]

He took great care of Rocky. Come on.

[Laura Rosenberg]

There you go.

[Rahsaan]

And by the way, when you. When you're looking at a presidential candidate, you're not even trying to fall in love. You're really just hiring somebody for a job for a couple years. And can you keep getting them down the road to where you want to be? And that's where y' all screwed up with Kamala, because Kamala actually listened.

[Ebro Darden]

And she could have, over time, become more the person you wanted her to be, but everyone's so busy tearing her down, including a lot of progressives who were like, ah, she's. She's not bold enough. On Israel at the time, she wasn't. And this was it.

[Rahsaan]

All facts.

[Ebro Darden]

But by the way, I guarantee you we'd be in a better spot now and not having a war with Iran, which she said was going to happen with Trump.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Rahsaan]

And I'm gonna tell you, if you go back and look at the receipts, we had an interview with Kamala when she was running, and we were talking to her about defunding the police, and she wasn't afraid to talk about defunding the police and looking at public safety differently.

[Ebro Darden]

Yet y' all said she was a cop and she put people in charge jail for weed, which she did at a time when that was her job to do that in the 90s because

[Rahsaan]

the law said but she was also finding solutions for that. So anyway, we'll we'll continue to have this convo as November approaches and we'll see y' all tomorrow. Subscribe, share, hype and do all the things and Laura wants to go buy a mug. Hold the mug up. Just don't call it a podcast.

[Laura Rosenberg]

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[Rahsaan]

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[Rahsaan]

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