73.) Ebro Apologizes, Michael Jackson Movie + Iran Ceasefire (4/8/26)

Summary

The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show: Episode 73

Air Date: April 8, 2026
Episode Title: Ebro Apologizes, Michael Jackson Movie + Iran Ceasefire

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show navigates through some of the most topical global, musical, and cultural headlines from the week. Anchored by their signature blend of candid cultural commentary, humor, and lively debate, the trio explores a proposed Iran ceasefire deal, Kanye West's festival cancellation controversy, breaking news in hip hop, and a deep dive into the new Michael Jackson biopic and its controversy. The show is interspersed with personal stories, audience Q&A, and candid moments amongst the team.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Iran Ceasefire and Geopolitical Drama

• [01:43 – 10:00]
  • Ceasefire Proposal: Rosenberg and Ebro break down the reporting of a proposed 10-point Iran ceasefire deal, questioning both its legitimacy and the framing of "victory" claims by the U.S. and Iran.
  • Control of the Strait of Hormuz: Ebro highlights the geopolitical and economic implications: “...if it ends up that people have to pay to go through the Strait of Hormuz, that's not going to lower prices. That's a cost that didn't exist before.” [09:22]
  • Trump's Involvement: The hosts dissect Trump's social media escapades, stalling tactics, and the spectacle of both the U.S. and Iran claiming diplomatic wins.
  • Displacement in Lebanon: Briefly touch on Israel’s actions in Southern Lebanon and the lack of consistent media coverage and algorithmic bias.

2. Viral Moments, Weather & Personal Stories

• [03:38 – 07:19]
  • New York Weather: Cold snap and sports banter during an unusual spring freeze.
  • Gas Truck Story: Rosenberg’s comedic recounting of his competitive Manhattan commute, blocked by a stubborn gas truck driver: “He gets backed up by trucks. Guess what I did. Went all the way around all them bitches. Very satisfying.” [05:41]
  • Parenthood Talk: Candid moments about kids, dance moves, and FaceTime babysitting via grandma.

3. Music and Culture Rundown

• [10:49 – 41:52]
  • Michael Jackson Movie Mania:
    • Ticket Frenzy & Expectations: Intense demand for movie tickets and discussion on generational impact. “It's just going to be a reminder of how different, how different Michael is. It's just different.” – Rosenberg [11:15]
    • Biopic Controversy: Laura reports that Michael Jackson’s estate allegedly paid to have child molestation allegations omitted from the upcoming movie.
    • Paris Jackson’s Critique: Paris voices disapproval of the "inaccuracies" and "narrative control" in the film:

      "...like, that doesn’t really fly with me. I don’t really like dishonesty. I spoke up, I wasn’t heard. ...I just prefer honesty over, like, sales and monetary gain. Like, that’s it." – Paris Jackson [37:05]

    • Jafar Jackson as Michael: The hosts play a clip of Jafar Jackson discussing the experience of playing Michael and recreating Thriller.
  • Wireless Festival Drama:
    • Cancellation After Kanye Ban: Festival is called off after UK bars Kanye West due to anti-Semitism concerns. Hosts debate if cancellation was necessary and weigh the PM’s comments.
    • Kanye’s Statement & Apology Offers: The hosts remark on Kanye offering to meet with Jewish leaders and reflect on the arc of his controversies:

      “...he stayed on it, really just being anti black for a good four or five years, and then decided to go DEFCON five on the Jews.” – Rosenberg [26:34]

  • Offset Shooting Incident:
    • News that Lil Tjay allegedly started a melee leading to Offset being shot, and subsequent social media accusations (“rat”).
    • Ebro gives a public apology for offhand jokes about Offset owing him money, explaining how jokes can spiral on the internet:

      “...we get up here, we get chatty, we goofing around, cracking jokes...” – Ebro [33:57]

  • More Hip-Hop Culture:
    • Reflections on the wildness of MJ sleepovers, the changing legacies of stars, and how controversies age.

4. Listener Engagement and Superchat Banter

• [17:01 – 18:03, 54:41 – 55:47]
  • Audience Growth Megaphone: Producers chime in about subscriber pace and Superchat milestones.
  • Technical Difficulties: On-air mention of YouTube glitch, quick banter about parents’ feedback on Laura’s mic volume.

5. Iran’s 10-Point Plan & Its Repercussions

• [56:20 – 60:51]
  • Plan Breakdown: Ebro lays out the detailed demands – from guaranteed security, lifting of sanctions, ending Israeli strikes, to a $2m toll on ships passing through the Strait of Hormuz.
  • U.S. and Israel Dynamics: Realpolitik: U.S. political calculations, split between Israel/White House interests, growing Democratic dissent.
  • Broader Political Commentary: Ebro and Rosenberg explore how grifters, opportunists, and media figures leverage these moments for profit.

6. Culture Wars & Political Fractures

• [61:04 – 67:47]
  • Broad and biting discussion on the unholy alliances forming around Israel/Gaza, how both the far right and far left now oppose Israel, and the rise of opportunistic media figures (“grifters”).
  • Ebro crystallizes the cynicism:

    “...there’s this constant faction...twisting and turning the narrative...for whatever the financial gain is or whatever the infrastructure is trying to do to keep us...on some sort of path...to make a lot of money...” [63:23]

7. Gurus Segment – Listener Advice

• [69:02 – 75:46]
  • Advice for an Asian Democrat in Arkansas: Listener asks whether to engage with right-wing talk or keep quiet in deep-red Arkansas.
  • Collective advice: “Case-by-case – some people are not worth even wasting your energy...If you see an open door for somebody to have maybe a decent discussion, then you could do that. But just don’t trust it...” – Laura [75:02]

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Memorable Quotes & Moments

• On Trump’s Negotiating Style:

  “He’s not embarrassed to look like a fool. No, he doesn't care. ...He just made up a narrative. He pulled the other Trump move.” – Rosenberg [07:26]

• On Michael’s Legacy vs. Modern Stars:

  “From beyond the grave while also having become a really controversial figure who's lost fans and is still going to be the biggest thing you've seen moving in movies in a long time.” – Rosenberg [11:30]

• Paris Jackson on the Biopic:

  “...just prefer honesty over, like, sales and monetary gain. Like, that’s it. And I kind of just don't want anything to do with that.” [37:13]

• On Kanye’s Trajectory:

  “He stayed on it, really just being anti black for four or five years, and then decided to go DEFCON five on the Jews.” – Rosenberg [26:34]

• On Generational MJ Fandom:

  “I was exactly the right age for Michael...a four-year-old little white boy.” – Rosenberg [53:45]

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Timestamps for Essential Segments

• Iran Ceasefire, Trump, & Israel — [01:43 – 10:00, 56:20 – 61:12]
• Michael Jackson Movie Buzz & Paris Jackson’s Clip — [10:49 – 41:42]
• Kanye Wireless Ban, Festival Fallout — [23:14 – 25:44]
• Offset, Lil Tjay & Ebro’s Apology — [30:10 – 34:22]
• Listener Advice Segment — [69:02 – 75:46]

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Summary Table of Hot Topics

| Topic | Segment Start | Key Discussants | Notable Quote | |-----------------------|--------------|----------------------|------------------------------------------------| | Iran Ceasefire Deal | 01:43 | Ebro, Rosenberg | “...it sounds like they're working on something.” – Ebro [09:20] | | Kanye & Wireless Drama| 23:14 | Laura, Rosenberg | “Kanye West has offered to meet with UK Jewish leaders.” – Laura [24:19]| | MJ Biopic Controversy | 34:48 | All | “The movie...was supposed to explore the impact of ... accusations...now there's not even a mention...” – Laura [35:19]| | Paris Jackson’s Critique| 37:05 | Paris Jackson (clip) | “...there is Hollywood. So this is...fantasy land. It's not real, but it's sold to you as real.” – Paris Jackson [37:08]| | Offset/Lil Tjay Drama | 30:10 | Laura, Ebro | “That probably deserves a button...Congratulations. Oh, well, that means yourself.” – Laura [31:19]| | Listener: Arkansas Dilemma | 69:02 | All | “...Case-by-case – some people are not worth even wasting your energy.” – Laura [75:02]|

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Flow & Tone

The episode’s tone is witty, combative, yet familial — true to Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg’s rapport. They deliver biting satire and pop-cultural analysis yet can pivot to thoughtful political and personal reflection, making this an insightful, engaging listen for fans of hip hop, current affairs, and modern black and brown radio culture.

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Note: This summary skips ads, introductory and concluding sponsor reads, and non-content sections. It preserves the show's original language and uncensored approach as requested.

Transcript

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We're here. We are alive, folks.

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Yes. Coming up, there's a, I guess a proposed ceasefire, apparently a 10 point deal. And I'm using the word deal loosely. Cause a deal signifies like, you know, the side I'm on. Got something out of it. I live in the United States of America. We didn't get anything out of this deal. We actually ended up losing the deal.

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Well, both the word deal and proposed are in question. Cause this deal's been. This quote deal has been sitting there. No.

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Yeah. For a long time. But then that was his out yesterday. Trump's out yesterday because he, he knew after he said whatever crazy talk he said on social media about eradicating a full nation off the planet. He was out of his Gore.

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Civilization. Civilization.

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He was out of his gourd and he was, you know, he needed to get out of it. But anyway, we'll get into whatever that 10 point program is supposed to be. We'll see where this goes. We'll also talk about while we've been talking about Iran, how Israel's been taking over southern Lebanon and there's over a People displaced. Did you guys know that? Has that, Was that been on in your algo, by any chance? Has it been in yours?

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Yeah, it was late to yours again. I don't understand, Al. I don't get our.

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The whole share supposed to get it.

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We're not. It's just, it's not a shared experience anymore. It's not a. But, but you of all people, you would think Bernie says something about.

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I saw it. I think I saw it a week ago was the first time I saw it. I shared with you guys just yesterday, I think.

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Oh, so you do think you've seen it.

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Yeah, I feel like I've seen it. I saw them talking about it, actually.

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They've been, they've been. Yeah, they've been getting busy in Lebanon. That's, you know, Israel's doing Israel things.

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Israel there. Oh, there it is. Thanks. Rah. Didn't ask for it yet, but thank you.

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All right.

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Okay. Thank you. I, I, I prefer to, you know, I was trying to lead that into the rest of the program. Yeah, it's cold as hell outside. There's like a freeze warning. If you living in the Tri State in the New York, New York area, and you haven't been outside yet, it's freezing, bro.

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My, my Uber driver was like, his brother lives in Massachusetts. He's like, you know, it snowed light,

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but snow and then by, I think by sun or Monday next week. So we in the 70s. It'll go high 50 today.

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We knew, we knew we were gonna get smacked up. I'm surprised we didn't catch any more snow. I knew when it, like, started to break, we were gonna get hit one more time because this was an iconic winter. It's not going out.

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Want to leave?

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No, it's got a, it's got, you know, the Yankees played a home game last night. It was 29 degrees. Mets move their game to daytime because they're soft. No, I prefer the Mets, but I just was annoyed that they changed their time. Yankees kept the night game, though, and I just dealt with these guys in a gas truck. I was in a rush to get here to keep my streak because things were a little slow leaving the house today.

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Oh, what happened?

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Okay.

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Nothing.

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Unpacking boxes?

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No, no, we're in great shape.

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Find underwear?

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No, we're in really good shape in that way. I'm very proud of Natalie and our lovely Beatrice, who's been helping us out with the baby. They've been putting in that work, but slow getting out and, you know, we're cutting Through Manhattan to get to where we are in midtown. You can make up time if you maneuver the right way. And I was doing good. And I pulled up to an Avenue like 9th or whatever it was, and there's a big ass gas truck in front of me. The lane is such that if you're behind a big ass truck on one of these streets, it's the whole way, right? So I go, desperate times, desperate measures.

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Drove on the sidewalk.

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I'm gonna. I'm gonna pull around it. I'm gonna pull around it. Yo, I got those guys. The driver was like, nah. Kept pulling, kept pulling. Kept into the crosswalk, through the crosswalk, waiting for the light to change.

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I'm like, my man, to not let you go ahead.

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To not. So the next light comes up, I went, hey, we're gonna have to try again. Tried again. Second I pulled up this time. Runs the red light. Just go, nah, you're not beating me. Runs the red light, wow. Then we get to the next one. He gets backed up by trucks. Guess what I did. Went all the way around all them bitches. Very satisfying. But why are you doing that? You're driving a gas truck and you're doing your job. You're in that big a rush, you know that thing ain't moving fast. Let me go.

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You're like, you're at work. I'm trying to get.

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Yeah, you're. You're already at work.

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I have a theory that people who drive for work, they're never in a hurry because they get paid regardless.

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So when they do that, they're just.

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It's like they were looking for entertainment, just being entertainment. He's not in a hurry. I. I often get irritated by people driving delivery or just driving trucks, construction. And see, they get paid by the hour. Like, they're not. The only thing they want to do is get their delivery done and get home.

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Right? So if it's in the middle of that day, why are you fighting with me to let me get my little bruh?

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And it's first thing in the morning. You know, they're not really in a hurry to show up to wherever they got to be.

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Nah, they were just like, let's just bitch this guy around.

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They shouldn't like your car. It was like, why his little family car? Look at his nerd. That's what it was.

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And they mad at you anyway, so. But we're all here. We made it.

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Yes, yes, yes.

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Trump taco'd out. He pulled a taco yet again. So we're all alive. Which Is great. Ebro, your assessment of it was basically right on the nose. I mean, listen, I'm not gonna give you. You're not Jimmy the Greek.

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Why not? Why not? Why are you not gonna sit here and, you know, fawn over my ability to, you know, predict these things?

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But you did get it pretty accurate in terms of the path he took. He found that third way out, which is, well, you described it as. He's not embarrassed to look like a fool. No, he doesn't care. It was sort of that and also sort of. He just made up a narrative. He pulled the other Trump move. I won like you could say whatever you want, you know what I mean? And it is funny. A lot of the headlines this morning are both Iran and the US claim victory as ceasefire. Well, I got news for you. The war ending, technically that is victory for everybody. I know, I know it like we're going to get over the who won this. That's what peace actually is.

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Is. I teased it because I wanted to get the Laura what she has coming up in the rundown before we get too far off in it. Because I feel like that's more entertaining than the 10 or 15 point program or deal that Iran has had sitting on with Pakistan. I'm sure people watching this will probably be more entertained by whatever Laura has than us running through the deal points. But I got news for you. No one was paying to go through those Strait of Hormuz and Iran wasn't in full control of the Strait of Hormuz. After this deal, it looks like they will be in full control of the Strait of Hormuz and people will have to actually pay a toll on to go through the straight of horror moves.

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That's if everyone agrees to this deal.

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That's what's in the, in the 10 points.

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But, but is was Trump's yesterday him announcing that they have this situation? Is that an agreement to the deal or is it just a stall for another two weeks? I viewed it as just a stall.

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Yeah, I think it's mostly a beginning of a positive negotiation.

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Right.

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And if everybody can stop dropping bombs and shooting missiles at each other, which according to 1010 wins this morning. That didn't stop yet.

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Yeah, no, they're still bucking off shots, it sounds.

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So what's the actual cease fire? We don't know, but it sounds like they're working on something. But I'm telling you, if it ends up that people have to pay to go through the Strait of Hormuz, that's not going to lower prices That's a cost that didn't exist before.

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So your war now has made everything more expensive.

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Yes. Now, once again, this isn't confirmed, but the deal that Iran put forward says, and we'll get to it later on the show, it says they want $2 million per ship and they'll split the fees that they get from that with Oman and they're going to use it to rebuild all the damages. So basically everybody's got to pay for all the damages that the US has done to and Israel have done to Iran. Hit the button. Yep. You played yourself.

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Yep.

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So if that goes through. And Lou, you said there's a quote of Donald Trump saying that we're gonna work together on the toll. We're gonna work together on it. Yeah.

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Oh, I want a piece of it all.

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Yeah. That Trump thinks Iran's gonna give the US A piece of the toll. Please.

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Yo, my man.

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Such an embarrassment.

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So, anyway, Laura, what are you working on in the rundown?

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Well, the wireless festival cancellation, I'll tell you all the drama that's going on with that interesting little TJ got released from jail. And I'll let you know what's happening with Offset. And some interesting news. I learned about the Michael Jackson movie, guys. We'll talk about it in the rundown.

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A lot of Michael Jackson news the next few weeks. Get ready.

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It's April 24th. I went and tried to buy tickets last night for the family and struck out.

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They're sold out or you just don't. They're not available yet?

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No, they're sold out a lot of places. I. There's some places I know where to find them, but the one place I wanted to go, which was great for the family, this is.

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This is for the first day.

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First and second day.

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Wow.

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Friday, Saturday, not even. And then, you know, they do the late showing on Thursday.

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We'll save it for the Michael Jackson talk. This is just another reminder. As you watch this thing ramp up, it's just going to be a reminder of how different, how different Michael is. It's just different.

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Listen, I mean, it's generational reminder. Yeah. People need to remind.

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People do forget sometimes when they're like, oh, Drake beat Michael Jackson. I just, I. What this man's about to do from beyond the grave while also having become a really controversial figure who's lost fans and is still going to be the biggest thing you've seen moving in movies in a long time. Yeah, it's going to be. It's going to be something to watch.

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No, it's a big deal, this guy. I don't know if go out on a limb here.

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Go ahead.

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Michael Jackson.

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Yep.

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Big deal.

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You think he's big out here?

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Yeah, I've heard of him.

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And did you put in the. We got to watch some of the Jafar Jackson interview clips, too? Those are pretty interesting. He does look. Michael's nephew. Does look oddly like 80s Michael. Not 70s Michael. He looks like 80s Michael isn't his.

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Who's his mom?

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I don't know. Someone who makes him more 80s Michael.

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They mix that white in there that they've always been wanting.

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Oh, wait. Producer Griff.

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Yo, Ebro, if you want, I got private theater rental for Michael Jackson movie.

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Relax.

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Oh, why you want that? You want to do it? The family. AMC does them okay. Have up to 20 people.

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Interesting.

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I don't have 20 people.

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It's not that expensive. It's not that bad of a price. Yeah, we know. We know how you like to pay for convenience. You know what I mean?

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Yeah.

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Yo, empty theater. Throw a little extra on.

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I only have five people.

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So what about us?

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Yeah, what about.

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What about y'?

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All? You host a screening for the family.

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What about your friend?

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300. 300 bucks?

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Why don't y' all set it up?

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Oh, my God.

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Interesting.

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I'm into it.

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Well, I gotta organize. I got enough stuff to organize.

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You were already. You were already organizing. You said you struck out.

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No, I was organizing for, like, me, Jazz, Issa, Grandma. I was going that route.

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Salasi gonna go.

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I don't think Salasi could go, but

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she's just gonna distract them.

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I don't know if she could sit. Yeah, I don't know if she'll get it.

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She's not.

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Listen, listen.

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There's some times I'm shocked.

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No, no.

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She is a. Salasi's different. We'll be watching a regular Me Issa jazz show. Salasio be like, Peppa Pig. Peppa Pig. Paw Patrol Pa. And I'll be like, we're not doing your show right now. We doing our show. She'll go, okay. She's too, by the way.

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No, she's unusual.

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And then she'll sit and actually, something will happen and she'll go, oh, no, Daddy, what happened? What happened?

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Now, she is an unusually smart child. But you said. I don't know if she's gonna get it. Meaning, like, she might look at you and be like, joe Jackson really was wild. No, this is too much. Why she treating. Why is she treating him, Michael, different than the rest of them?

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No, but the music will come on and she'll start going.

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She'll have the. You'll get the.

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You've seen the shoulder shimmy. You've seen it.

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Well, I mean, mine is a big shoulder shimmy.

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You got shoulder shimmy.

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Oh, my. She is. Always was Kenzie.

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The shoulder shimmy.

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Big butt. Big butt drop. Should every. She's doing all of it.

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Dropping it.

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No, she's dropping. No.

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Megan, Thee stallion knees.

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No, she's dropping it. It's. She. She loves to shake that thing.

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How does Natalie pops when she drops it?

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Right?

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Natalie gets hyped. Why do my. Why are moms like that?

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No, they.

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Why are moms excited when they see their toddler drop it like it's hot? Why is that? Joy.

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You don't think about it like that. It's just cute to see joy.

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But then they turn five and like, with Issa, one time we was at the playground, some music came on, and I had to be like, yo, Issa, come in. We don't do that outside.

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Oh, my God.

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We don't drop it like it's hot.

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We're not just out here tooting our ass out at the playground because you and your mom at the crib think this is cute.

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Well, it is funny because I don't know what they're doing. It's. I guess they only have a limited. There's a limited amount of moves they could do.

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Yeah.

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So one of them is just dropped to the grass. That's what they got.

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I get it. I get it.

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How that ends up back in the club later is the confusion.

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Right. But the level of excitement because they can shoulder shimmy and they do other moves that are equally as. But when they drop it low, moms go woo. Every time.

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Now, yesterday, my. And we have a big family sort of focused episode in a very emo way today of today's Patreon episode. But last night, I was FaceTiming with my mom. My thing that I will do sometimes is if I'm getting ready with the baby at night, I'll set the phone up. My mom will literally babysit her on FaceTime while I go, like, wash the bottle.

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Shout to technology.

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No, it's crazy. And I'll set it on a little thing next to the thing, and my mom will start singing songs, and the baby will lock in with her.

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What's Mindy out here singing these days? Big.

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She's doing big remixes of Wheels on the Bus.

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Okay.

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You know,

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she have, like, a slow version of, like, twinkle, Twinkle. I got an Ill slow jam Twinkle, Twinkle.

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No, she doesn't. She doesn't do Twinkle, Twinkle.

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No. Little. No, we just will. Hey, what about her ABC game? Does she has variations? We're all.

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We're doing lots of ABC now in general.

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Yeah.

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But really, she's been focusing on wheels on the bus because it's been hitting. It's been hitting.

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Hey, yo, Mindy, step your game up. We need. You know what I'm saying?

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I love the abc, especially anime.

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I mean, we're not. And we're not close yet to her. We're not close yet or doesn't feel close yet to Maya participating. All we have is that she gets happy now when we do it. When we start the A B, she starts to look up like, oh, she'll catch it. I know this. I know this joint, cutie.

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Ms. Rachel. Tighten her up, though.

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Well, listen, the other. She's really on this right now.

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You know, more Ms. Rachel.

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I don't know if she knows exactly

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what it means, but she gets the results she wants from.

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She gets. Listen, she always wants more.

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So there you go.

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The American way. This is the American way.

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What's the Super Chat talking about, Rosenberg?

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Let's see. You know, you can jump in our, you know, super chat however you feel like.

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Make sure you hit the like button and, you know, share with your friends and subscribe. Yo, King Lou, how's our subscriber pacing going?

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We still on pace?

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On pace.

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Moving okay.

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Pace.

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Hit 65.

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We're at 65. So you guys still think we'll be at 100,000 subscribers by the end of June? What was it, July 1st? What did you got? July 1st? That's King Lou's prediction.

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May, June. So two and a half months. This. That'll take some growth.

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I don't know. That's what y' all said.

[C]

We got it. We got it. We're gonna have to hit, you know, have a couple things go down right now. Super Chat, very slow, but shout out to Tatum Miller, who just gave us money and threw up a little emoji that says she's number one fan.

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Thanks, Tatum Miller.

[C]

So we appreciate you guys.

[B]

Thanks, Taylor Miller. I gotta apologize today. I got a big apology. Laura, can I do my apology in the rundown?

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You can.

[B]

All right.

[A]

You can.

[B]

I got a big apology today. I felt bad yesterday. Do.

[C]

Do you have. Yeah. Do you have any apology music? You work on that. You know, a proper break.

[B]

I'd like to formally.

[C]

No, no, doesn't hit right. Doesn't hit quite right.

[B]

No, I Was thinking I should apologize.

[C]

No, no.

[B]

Yeah, but let me turn it into a movie.

[C]

Ebro up. No, no, no. We need, like, that soft piano. You know?

[B]

I don't have it.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Yo, find me some soft piano over there. Let me get something now. I wanna. It's actually a serious apology. I feel like if we threw music under it.

[C]

Why don't you just do it now?

[B]

Well, because I'm doing in the rundown when the story drops, you know?

[C]

Oh. Because it is. It is a Jason.

[B]

It's related to a story. And I. And I really felt bad yesterday, today because I didn't realize I wasn't in tune with what was really going on in the situation. And then when I saw it really unraveling yesterday, I was like, I don't want to be a part. This is not.

[C]

Well, yeah, a couple of things happened, though. You didn't plan on being a part.

[B]

No, but I still am. And I don't want to. Like, I need to put it out there. And, like, you know, I feel like I need to apologize. It wasn't my intention. Listen, just because something wasn't your intention.

[C]

Totally.

[B]

And it goes back. You should still apologize.

[C]

Remember, that's one of the things we try to explain to the whites sometimes who are like, ah, I didn't. But I. But I didn't mean to do anything. And it's like. But you hurt people's feelings. Just say sorry.

[B]

Yeah. You know, and you learn from it.

[C]

That's it.

[B]

That's it. That's all you could do. You know what I mean? You ready for the rundown, Lord Styles?

[A]

I am.

[B]

Let's get into it.

[A]

Let's go.

[B]

Ah, yes. Laura got the rundown.

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Turn that up. Screens on glow when she pulled up.

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Headlines heavy, but we still caught up. Light still flashing. We don't. Oh, wait, I screwed up. We'll get back to the rundown. Sponsor time.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Oh, Lord, do you have Smooth as

[C]

can be old Ebro. Darn.

[B]

Sorry I forgot about it.

[C]

You could have just waited till after.

[B]

Yo, Mother's Day's happening. I know you got plans.

[A]

Do I have plans? I am ready. I don't know about y', all, so you guys gotta get it together. I already got my Mother's Day gift.

[C]

Go ahead, talk to us. Go ahead.

[A]

You know, we got those cozy earth pajamas, bruh. You guys, we told you about the sheets. Pajamas, next level.

[C]

Well, yeah, the sheets have been a game changer in the Rosenberg household.

[B]

But the. The bamboo pajamas.

[C]

But this bamboo pajama set is different.

[B]

Lightweight, cozy, effortless, soft. It's. It's amazing. And it's perfect for Mother's Day.

[A]

Say it again. It's so soft.

[B]

No, the softness is crazy. And look, you know, shout out to the moms out there. You guys make our lives so much better. You make everything feel cozy and you make everything feel like home. And the least we could do this Mother's Day is get with a company like Cozy Earth, Beautiful. And reciprocate that coziness, that comfort.

[C]

But to the dads out there, Laura, for the people copying, or the sons or the daughters, the people who are getting this present for mom from Cozy Earth. Here's the beauty, the risk free purchase, the 100 Night Sleep trial. Try them out. If you don't love them, return them. Hassle free. Now you're going to love them. You're not going to return them.

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Trust me, you're not going to want to get rid of them.

[C]

But you have a 10 year warranty.

[B]

That's. Wow. Say that again. That's why Cozy Earth. You guys are doing it, man.

[C]

No 10 year warranty. And these PJs are pretty viral right now. They did sell out during the holidays, but they're back right now exclusively for Mother's Day.

[A]

Don't sleep. Buy them now. Guys, I'm telling you, they're going to sell out and then you're going to be. Mother's Day is going to hit. You be like, what am I going to get my mom? We told you now.

[B]

The ill combo. Because I got my pajamas at home. The ill combo, the bamboo sheets and the bamboo pajamas.

[C]

You've gone too far.

[B]

Different type.

[C]

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Hey. Hey,

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guys. As you guys all saw yesterday, the wireless festival has been canceled.

[B]

Full cancellation.

[A]

Full cancellation. The organization announced it on Instagram following the news that Kanye west has been banned from entering the uk.

[B]

Well, yeah, I guess it's tough to have a show.

[A]

I mean.

[C]

Well, they didn't have to cancel, though.

[B]

Well, it was the big headliner. The people bought tickets for that guy. He's not gonna be there. They got. I mean, look, could they.

[C]

Yeah, you're right. They sold.

[B]

Could they give people their tickets back and maybe re. Put the concert up, hopefully with another,

[C]

or announce a new person and say, you can keep it if you want, or you can.

[B]

I guess that could happen, but I think the. The appropriate thing to do would be to say, hey, we're canceling this. Here go your money back.

[A]

So the prime minister made a statement on social media, basically said Kanye west should have never been invited to headline wireless, and that the government will not stop in our fight to confront and defeat the poison of anti Semitism, we will always take action necessary to protect the public and uphold our values. Now, Kanye west has offered to meet with UK Jewish leaders.

[C]

Okay.

[A]

So I. You know, let's see if that happens. But as of right now, the festival has been canceled.

[B]

And, you know, it's not also being talked about. I saw the wireless organizer founder guy's statement.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

In the story I read yesterday on the show, farther down it, Kanye even had a quote where he was like, look, I still have a lot of work to do with response to the blowback from wireless, and I don't know if that's getting coverage at all.

[C]

He said that?

[B]

He said that? Yeah, it's on the sheet. It's on our prep sheet. And I. I don't know if media outlets are covering that, where he's acknowledging, like, hey, you know, like, in many ways, I understand. I.

[C]

You know, he offers to meet with UK Jewish leaders, and he released a statement. He's saying he wants to meet with members of the Jewish community. Wow. I mean, listen, for Kanye, we have a low bar. We have a low bar for him, like, not screaming about this and making it worse, but saying, yeah, well, ish happens. I got. I guess I got more work to do. That is a really positive development.

[B]

Well, and all the people out there that two days ago was like, I guess you can't get canceled,

[C]

right?

[B]

I guess you can get canceled.

[C]

Yeah. It depends.

[A]

It just depends on the situation. And for people who are like, this is insane. Insane. Unheard of. No, no, no. Artists get banned from countries. It happens.

[B]

It happens.

[A]

Tyler, the creator in Australia. And there's been others.

[B]

Well, no. And there's people who can't travel to the United States.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Ask Jamaican artists. It's mad Jamaican artists and even artists in the UK that can't travel here.

[A]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[C]

Now. Now there is. People forget. This Kanye story has been so long and winding at this point. You know, the beginning was all really anti black. It really wasn't anti Semitic. That came way later, like, several years later. That's like the Drink champs interview. We're talking about pandemic times, the Wyoming US Discussing it and not wanting to go to Wyoming and stuff like that. That was really Confederate flag slavery was a choice, you know, just general.

[A]

The white lives matter.

[C]

And then later after that, white lives matter.

[B]

Candace Owens.

[C]

That was really.

[B]

He.

[C]

He stayed on it, really just being anti black for a good four or five years, and then decided to go DEFCON five on the Jews.

[B]

I thought it was three.

[C]

You know, it's hard with DEFCONs.

[B]

I don't think DEFCONs go to five. You sure? I think three. That was the big thing.

[C]

The big one.

[B]

Three was the one.

[C]

All right, so he went DEFCON three on the Jews.

[B]

If there's a five now, I'm not privy.

[C]

You don't know what that is? I don't. Guess what. I don't even know what three is. The lower one.

[B]

Say what?

[C]

The biggest are the lower.

[B]

The biggest are the low. Oh, so he won. Is who. So three. He only went three.

[C]

Oh, why did all the Jews get upset then? He was only going DEFCON 3. So. So that was, you know. And. And go. He went so far with it. You know, the. The. And I saw someone posted some stuff he said in the last, like, year. The. Like, I'm not drunk. I mean, this. I'm never apologizing. Like, he went as far as one could go and took away as many of the ways to get out of it as you possibly could. Like. No, I mean this. I'm okay. I'm of sound mind. I know what I'm saying. So. Yeah. It's not surprising that not everybody's ready.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

To do this now. I still find it funny style.

[B]

That was a wild statement. Quote it's not surprising that everyone's not ready to do this. What do you mean? Of course every. No one will. There will never be a time when everyone's ready. No, it will never. If there will Kanye fans, Kanye himself. There will never be a time when everybody's all good. There are people who will never forgive him. Just like anything else. There are. Think of any insult to any group of any time, of any place. There will never be a time where everybody's all good.

[C]

Yeah, it's back to sort of a totally different circumstance, but it's sort of like now talking about Michael Jackson with people. People have different. Some people, like, I'm good. I stopped. Some people, I don't believe it. Some people, I know it, but I kind of. Everyone has a different thing. When there are people who are either accused of. Or in Kanye's case, we are absolutely sure of they have done things that are really bad.

[A]

Yeah.

[B]

Well. And even in the Michael Jackson case, I know we're going to talk about the movie. Bro was hanging out with children. Yeah.

[C]

For some people, that would be enough.

[B]

That's it. Why are you doing that?

[C]

But at the time, that wasn't enough for people.

[B]

There were some. That's why he was on the COVID of magazines. That's why people were like, yo, this is craziness.

[C]

No, but just at the beginning, when he was just befriending children, were people already out?

[B]

I don't know if it was Webster.

[C]

When he brought Webster out, I don't

[B]

know, because we didn't have social media. But it was enough for it to become a new story. It was crazy enough for people to be like, yo, what is happening here?

[A]

Like, children sleeping over at Neverland Ranch was wild.

[C]

Well, yeah. I mean, listen, I know people who had sleepovers of Michael Jackson had a great time.

[B]

It's just wild. Doesn't make it not wild. And there are definitely adults who are going to be. Never forgive that. And never get that image out of their mind.

[C]

Yeah. No.

[B]

And look. But see, now, Mike. And I think in some ways, like Kanye, too, there's errors. Like, there was a time. That's why people call it old. Yay.

[C]

Yeah. Do you remember? The time is the question.

[B]

But nonetheless, there'll never be. There'll never be a time in the future where everybody's all.

[C]

And just for the record, the best place to be on Kanye is. This is hard for some people I see in comments to be offended. You could be equally offended by him being anti black and anti Semitic. You don't have to just pick one. He did such a good job saying hateful and hurtful things about everybody. You can pick your choice now.

[A]

Both. All right, so yesterday as the news came out that Offset was shot, remember, we were trying to figure out what was a rumor, what was real. So we didn't have real information to give you. So as of now, we have more accurate information. Now, Lil TJ allegedly started a fight that led to Offset getting shot. This is according to TMZ police reports. They are saying that cops claim that around 7:22 on Monday, Lil TJ directed members of his party to start another group of. To start with another group of males, which was Offset at the Hard Rock Hotel Casino in Florida. Now, during the altercation, reports are saying that One of Little TJ's associates pulled the gun and fired, injuring Offset. Now the. The cops are reviewing docs that are saying the security footage of Little TJ hopping out of his vehicle, pointing out Offset and leading his group over to Offset. All of that is on tape and where the fight broke out. So you could see everything on surveillance. All the video is out. They also claim that Little TJ filmed the incident on his phone. That probably deserves a button.

[C]

Congratulations. Oh, well, that means yourself.

[A]

Now, little T.J. was booked. He went to Broward County Jail on misdemeanor disorderly conduct and he was released on Tuesday when he came out. There's a video and we'll show it to you, where he's calling Offset a rat. Watch this.

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Fight at the casino.

[C]

Does Offset owe you money?

[B]

I don't do no damn fighting. Did you shoot Offset? Did I shoot Offset?

[C]

It's crazy.

[B]

They're saying you were disorderly outside the casinos. There's a fight near the valet. He would never play with me like that. He owe you money act. Offset, that shot me. La la la. Did he put his hands on you? I don't know how many times. Touch me? No, it happened last. A mess. That's pretty much that's it. Where he calls him a rat. I don't know if Offset. Well, I. Listen, I. I don't know all of the details, but he was arrested for disorderly conduct. That doesn't sound like you were arrested because of an attempted murder charge or being accused of shooting. So to say Offsets a rat. Like who? Wouldn't your arrest have been something else?

[C]

Yeah. As we've covered, though, people are very loose with the word R. Yeah.

[A]

Did you see the photos of yesterday of Offset?

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Offset? Yeah.

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Smoking a cigarette in a wheelchair.

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Yeah.

[B]

I want to apologize To Offset, though. Because when we were talking yesterday about this story and you asked me if he owed me money, I didn't know there was going to be this day long pile on. Like, I don't know. And didn't realize that all people were going to start claiming the Offset owes them money. Me and Offset made a goofy bet at the super bowl, and it only

[C]

came up because the story was about gambling. And when we started talking about debts and gambling, I remembered because I tweeted

[B]

about it at the time.

[C]

It was silly, and it was silly. I remember that you had a bet with him. I didn't know that it was gonna go that way.

[B]

Right. And then. And then when I heard this story yesterday, it didn't seem that egregious. And now when I'm hearing the details, and the details started coming out yesterday, I didn't realize Lil TJ and Offset really had a problem. I thought this was just cats. They got into it with some other cat. I didn't know what was going on. So I want to apologize to Offset because that's my guy.

[C]

Did you reach out to him?

[B]

Yeah, I reached out to him yesterday and we was laughing, laughing in the. In the text, but I still felt terrible seeing my name.

[C]

Ebro says offset owes him $5,000.

[B]

Like, bruh, you know? So look, that's my bad because we get up here, we get chatty, we goofing around, cracking jokes, and you.

[C]

But you also did the joke very dry, which you do sometimes.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

You didn't, like, smile during it. You were like. Yeah, but you were like. You didn't think that that was gonna become the narrative.

[B]

Yeah, but people are gonna chop it, and that's what happened, and that's why I'm apologizing.

[C]

So there's also. We appreciate the apology, but congratulations. People are gonna chop it.

[B]

But. Yeah, no, but they're gonna. They're gonna. And. And look, that's a gift and a curse on this show right now. Right? Because we kind of got motion and people are gonna chop things on this show and take it, run it up and get the algorithm popping and click bait it. But that's what, you know, that's the Internet thing and we're in it.

[A]

Yeah. All right. In other news.

[B]

So sorry, my brother. You know, I love you, man. Offset's my guy.

[C]

He's a great guy.

[A]

And we're hope he's recovering and we'll be just fine.

[C]

Absolutely. Shouts to Offset, man.

[A]

So the Michael Jackson movie that's been trending all over because it's coming. So I don't know if you guys knew this, but the Michael Jackson estate reportedly paid out millions to cut any mention of child molestation accusations from the end of the movie. From the end of the movie, according to Variety. Because. So because they paid millions, they now own stake in the film. It's between 10 and 15 million. That's what they're reporting.

[B]

So they paid money so that they own enough of the film so they get to make the creative calls on what's in the film and not in the film.

[A]

Yes, because they're saying that the movie originally was supposed to explore the impact of the child molestation accusations that it had on Michael's life, but now there's not even a mention of the accusations.

[C]

Wow. So they were going to include at least the beginning of. In the 90s when it started.

[A]

Remember the impact of the accusations on Michael.

[C]

Right. On his life.

[A]

Right.

[B]

On him himself as.

[C]

Right. So not saying whether or not they're true.

[B]

Right. But just how. How it was, how it affected him. So we were gonna see the actor, Jafar.

[C]

Yeah. Talk about, you know, act out what

[B]

his uncle felt, which I never anticipated getting any of that in this film. I don't know about. I thought this is. I. I went with the family to see the Broadway play. They took me on my. I think that was my birthday. They took me on my birthday one year.

[A]

So there's no mention in the Broadway play?

[B]

No, no, no, not at all. I thought this was basically going to give us the movie version of the Broadway play in some regard.

[C]

But yeah, I made the same assumption just because they're the families behind it, but that doesn't surprise me. Did you watch the Paris Jackson clip that I sent?

[A]

We have it.

[C]

You want to. Do you see this? You watch it?

[B]

No, I saw you guys send. I did not watch it.

[C]

It's just interesting. This is Michael's daughter, Paris Jackson.

[A]

The big reason why I haven't said anything up until this point is because I know a lot of you guys are gonna be happy with it. Like a big section, the film panders to a very specific section of my dad's fan that still lives in the fantasy. And they're gonna be happy with it. The thing about these biopics is there is Hollywood. So this is. This is. It's. It's fantasy land. It's not real, but it's sold to you as real. And a lot of sugar coated, like the narrative is being controlled and there's a lot of inactive accuracy and there's A lot of just full blown lies. And at the end of the day, like, that doesn't really fly with me. I don't really like dishonesty. I spoke up, I wasn't heard. I off. That's it. Y' all are gonna like the movie, so just go watch it. Go enjoy it, do whatever. Leave me out of it. Something that, like, quite a lot of people are saying is like, she hates her dad. She resents him. She wants nothing to do with him. Because I'm not like, calling the shots on set. Being a big shot producer of a movie that's filled with just inaccuracies. That's not my truth. That's not where I'm coming from. I just prefer honesty over, like, sales and monetary gain. Like, that's it. And I kind of just don't want anything to do with that. So I'm going to off again and I'm going to keep minding my own business. I suggest you do the same. Interesting.

[C]

So it's. You don't know what she's referring to about the inaccuracies? I know all about Michael's relationship with his family as a kid.

[B]

I know this, and I say this respectfully. I still don't know how she looks like.

[C]

Looks like that.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Why? Can you save this for after we analyze the conversation?

[B]

But every time I see her, I'm like, take a, I'm a mixed kid. I know what Mike looked like before the surgery.

[C]

They're probably not blood related. What do you mean?

[B]

No, I understand, but I, I, I'm still stuck on that.

[C]

That's all.

[A]

Why?

[B]

No, no, no.

[C]

You know what you're doing? This is the equivalent. You get frustrated. We go, you can't believe what Trump did. And you're like, why are we doing this? You're doing this.

[B]

Yeah. With that. With that.

[C]

But she's his kid, right?

[B]

She is his kid.

[C]

She's his kid. There's no.

[B]

He loved her, so. And we wouldn't. And Paris, I also want to say this respectfully. If you don't want to be a part of it, why did you just insert yourself into it?

[C]

Well, I mean, because I'm sure the noise getting super loud and it's your dad and, you know, she sounds like she tried to get involved in it and they didn't want her or they

[A]

didn't like her point of view.

[C]

They didn't like her point of view.

[B]

Well, that's what she said. She said, I made an attempt.

[C]

They said, f, off.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And now we don't Know what that means? We don't know if that's related to. She sees her dad in a very honest way and sees like tons of flaws or the family. She thinks the family sugar coating his family life growing up.

[A]

We don't know.

[C]

There's so many things it could be.

[B]

Well, I'll tell you this. In the play which I'm, you know, my expectations are based on the Broadway play, it felt like they covered Joe Jackson pretty clearly. The abuse, the, you know, I won't give too much away, but just what Joe Jackson did to Mike and how it.

[C]

I mean it's not.

[B]

It's not crazy like we've heard, but it definitely gives you. Joe Jackson abuses kid.

[C]

It's implied more than it's shown though.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

It's Broadway because it's Broadway. So I wonder if in this movie

[B]

though you at least see the other thing that I thought was Mike's obsession with pleasing white America and that leading to some of the like what I took away from the Broadway play was that obsession and trying to get accepted into white America in the mainstream and be the biggest star ever played into some of his decisions with plastic surgery and things like that. That was my interpretation. Broadway play. I don't know if that's in the film.

[A]

We'll see. But listen, I'm looking forward to it. I can't wait to watch.

[B]

We're. Listen, as Paris said, we're all going.

[C]

Someone in the chat says in cap so you know they're serious.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

And to her there's a big majority of his life that did not involve her that she has no idea about and probably why no one wants to hear her. Lol. We know more about them than she does. Lol. Bro. I know. She just looks like a white lady. She has. She has grandpa. It's her family.

[B]

She knows Janet.

[C]

There's no other family. That's the only family that she really has. So I think she might know more than you. I know. We think we know it all and we don't know dad left her stuff. We don't know anything.

[A]

We know nothing what she's referring to.

[B]

And not only that, but the mic we know was the entertainment. Mike. We know guys. We did. There wasn't even social media in the 70s. Definitely. Like what are we talking about? We knew what they gave us in the press.

[A]

That's it.

[C]

We knew less then her brother's Blanket. My guy. My brother's name is Blanket. How down are you with Michael? Well, my brother's blanket.

[B]

Didn't he change his name, his porn name was Blanket. But it's real.

[C]

No, it's Prince quote, Blanket.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Yo, bask him. Did you put in the Jafar on Fallon? Do you guys want to see that little clip?

[A]

Yes.

[C]

Jafar Jackson on Fallon. I just think it's interesting to see what his vibe.

[B]

This is Michael Jackson in the thriller video in 1983. This is Jafar as Michael. And this was. You filmed this in the same location where Michael did the Thriller video? The same exact location for two nights,

[C]

all through the night. And we actually had a full moon

[B]

on one of those nights, which was crazy. That's the kind of Michael Jackson magic. You had a full moon?

[C]

We had a full moon and it was. It was cold. I know he. He shot during the summer, but just being at that location, seeing the zombies around me. Yeah, was.

[B]

I was like, I mean, that's one

[C]

of my favorite videos other than Smooth Criminal. But that to be in the locate the real location was incredible. It really was.

[B]

See, now that young man looks like a young man that was born to a white mom and a black dad

[C]

and a Jackson and a Jackson. No, he really. He looks like 80s Mike.

[A]

He looks.

[C]

When Mike started the transformation, that's the

[B]

look Mike was going for the doctor,

[C]

but then he went too far. That was. He had that for a minute and then he was like, nah, I need more.

[B]

Well, the other thing, like, he was like, it was even a full moon. And it's like, yeah. Cause you could see when there's going to be a full moon on the calendar. Like, who you think he playing with?

[A]

New year, new me.

[C]

Cute.

[A]

But how about New year, new money?

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Let's get them over with.

[B]

I'm too old for this now. I'm too old for the shenanigans to act like y' all didn't know. No, I think in the original video, they, like, made it look because he turns into a werewolf. So it's a full moon.

[C]

Do they show the full moon?

[B]

I think they show the full moon. I don't. And I don't know if that was a real full moon or a fake full moon, but in Jafar's real full moon, but Jafar. And that's that Michael Jackson magic. Because you didn't know that there was.

[C]

Why are you doing this?

[B]

Sorry, man.

[C]

Have it. Can we just enjoy?

[B]

No, when I was 12 out of 4, I would have fell for it. You know, I'm saying I'm sorry and have it. And. And look, I'm going to take my kid and we're going to enjoy the Michael Jackson movie.

[A]

Movie.

[C]

Yeah. Man. I wonder if Jafar is a good actor, too.

[B]

No, look, the trailers look dope.

[C]

Trailers.

[B]

And Jafar's really talented.

[C]

That's what it seems like. Yeah.

[A]

Yo, and Colman Domingo looks so good as Joe.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, he's. If Coleman Domingo playing Scary Dad. He's got that smash. He has a serious tone.

[B]

So are you guys trying to go opening weekend?

[A]

I'm going to go whenever. Whenever I get the tickets.

[C]

Yeah. I mean, it will be fun, though, because the first couple of weekends, you know, it's going to be when that. When you first start hearing the bass line kick in and people start singing along and which baseline I was actually thinking. I know this will probably bother you in this case, though, based on the trailers I've seen, I'm thinking Thriller because they're gonna go Thriller heavy in the song.

[A]

They are.

[C]

Don't. Don't hit the button. Well, then, you bet. Well, you know what? Hit that button before you go, because that's gonna be the big build. The trailers all have Thriller playing. They have Beat it playing.

[B]

Well, that's also what makes me think

[C]

Ebro hates do.

[B]

I was just telling somebody the other day, those three records on. On Thriller, man, when you get. The Girl is Mine,

[C]

yo, you tell. Yo, hold on, hold on.

[B]

I did not tell people. McCartney.

[C]

You bitched up when you met Paul McCartney.

[B]

I was like, Sir Paul McCartney. Nice to meet you. You know, I've been mean to tell you, out of all the music you've ever made in your life.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Congrats on the Beatles. No, listen, first Off. Congrats on the Beatles.

[A]

That was cool.

[B]

And Wings, Abby Rose White album, cool. Sergeant Pepper, cool, cool. I know at the time it was clunky, but became cool. But that Michael Jackson collab.

[C]

Oh, you liked it? Thank you.

[B]

No, it was do though.

[C]

Oh, I skipping every do you mean girl is mine. What about hey, hey, hey.

[B]

You didn't like that? That wasn't as bad. That wasn't as bad.

[C]

I swear, Michael, she's mine.

[B]

No, she's mine.

[C]

She's mine.

[B]

You know, by the way, she's mine. By the way, mine, mine.

[C]

You know, in reality too, if Michael had hit Paul McCartney with that, you know, she's mine, Paul would be like, all right.

[B]

Well, no, you know what? They were really.

[C]

Have you seen me out here?

[B]

I'll tell you what they was really talking about in that song. Public Beatles publishing. He was like, no, it's mine, Michael. Mike was like, no, it's mine, it's really mine.

[C]

And then in the end he was like, it's yours.

[B]

It's really his. Yours. How did you do that?

[C]

Nah, Paul was hurt by that. Yeah, because Paul was.

[B]

I don't believe. And Mike was like, mine, mine. Oh, she's mine. Publishing's my.

[C]

Paul was like, I don't believe it. No, he was really hurt by that. They had been friends for a long time and he was the one who had the biggest bid in. And then Michael showed up. And by the way, I hurt my finger. This is not a homage to Michael Jackson late in his career.

[B]

I saw this yesterday. Can you get a new, like, what's going on with that band?

[C]

Am I gonna go shopping for new band aids? Are you just gonna take what's sitting?

[B]

Well, no. Yesterday was another beat up bandaid.

[C]

It was a Mickey beat up band Aid.

[B]

Right.

[C]

But you know what?

[A]

I was like a sprinkles.

[B]

What happened to it? But why does it look chewed on?

[C]

It's just that after a day, these band aids kind of. I've been wearing this since last night.

[B]

Got it.

[C]

I stuck my hand in the cosmetic bag. It's not because the fingers. My finger's so dirty that the strings come off.

[B]

It's dirty.

[A]

It looks crazy.

[C]

Anyone have any more band aids? I could use a fresh one. A freshie.

[B]

Yo, we need a first aid kit at the new. Yeah, we do have. Somebody's gonna get hurt in here.

[C]

One day I stuck my finger in my cosmetic bag. Look at for something. And I just went straight across the razor.

[B]

Cosmetic bag. Give me, give me that. Isolate that clip. And he Changed his voice for it, too. He's like, I stuck my finger in my cosmetic.

[C]

Did I do that?

[B]

Yes.

[C]

I don't believe you.

[B]

Mine. Mine.

[C]

And I ran right across the razor, bro. It was. It was the big split. It was. I was like slice and dice and one of those things when you're running the water on it and the water's just blood.

[B]

It was.

[A]

That sucks.

[C]

Anyways, opening weekend. Yeah. Would be fun to see the whole. The whole singing like that.

[B]

Dressing up.

[C]

I might wear vintage.

[A]

See, he was like, wait, we definitely wore. Well, not matching. We wore our vintage Janet shirts when we went to go see Janet.

[B]

See, I don't. You was about to look at me like I was saying something crazy.

[C]

And I do have. I have a recent. I have a good Thriller original shirt from that era. Bootleg Nasty bootleg Firework last week.

[B]

And then I have my break out my supreme hoodie. That's about all I got. Michael Jack at the house.

[C]

What? Michael Cream. Oh, yeah, I got that. I got that too.

[A]

I have that one too.

[B]

Yeah. You guys want to go twinsies?

[C]

You know, do you hate. Do you hate the song? I know you're gonna say yes, but do you hate Bad, the song, as much as you hate?

[B]

So I don't hate Beat It. Like, if it comes on, it's novelty. It's not something I'm going to listen to. I don't. Is there anyone in the chat that, like, you're listening to Thriller. Beat it comes on and you're like, yeah, this is my jam.

[C]

That's an interesting question, because I bet there could be.

[B]

I want to. I want to meet you. Bad is similar. Bad is worse than Beat it to me.

[C]

So Bad is a worse song than Beat It.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

However, it doesn't hit to me when it creeps in the.

[B]

Doom, doom, doom. It.

[C]

It fits a little bit. Like, I don't.

[B]

Well, no, you like the bass line more than you like a guitar riff.

[C]

I guess that's probably.

[B]

You'll take a. A bass line more than the Eddie Van Halen.

[C]

I believe my biggest issue with Bad is that the first words are, your butt is mine.

[B]

And Prince was supposed to sing it.

[C]

Prince was supposed to say that?

[B]

Yeah. Prince was supposed to sing it? Yeah.

[C]

I don't understand. What does that mean? It was originally Prince's song

[B]

supposed to be a collab, remember? And then Prince tried to run him over with the motorcycle. Yo, if they had Quincy Jones.

[C]

If that had actually happened, that Prince

[B]

tried to run him over with the motorcycle. No, the.

[C]

The song do you think.

[B]

Do you believe. Remember that interview with Quincy Jones that I love so much that I. That I. I believe is complete accuracy and fact that you guys don't. You're like, he's just a crazy old man.

[A]

No, I never thought he was a crazy old man. I'm like, he don't give a damn anymore. He's telling.

[B]

No. His family came out, was like, he's old.

[A]

His truth, his true.

[C]

Do you think his truth is not the truth.

[A]

You know why he likes it? Because that's what that's gonna be.

[C]

I know it's all a setup for himself.

[A]

Yes.

[C]

It is all just.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

So when I tell stories, it'll be.

[B]

Well, no, but there's. But there's a possibility that. Did Quincy see Purple Rain one too many times? And he thinks that the scene where Prince tries to run over Morris Day was really Prince running over Mike.

[C]

See?

[B]

And he's confused. Or did Prince really try to run over Mike and then put it in Purple Rain?

[C]

It's all. It's all on the table. It's all on the table. I think. I think some of the things Quincy said was true, and I think some. He just went a little too far.

[B]

I want to go back through that interview because there's some gold.

[C]

No, we should. Should we do a special Patreon episode

[B]

where we go back through the.

[C]

Just watch the whole thing together. We pause it, we talk about. That's a Patreon.

[A]

That's a good one.

[C]

That's a good Patreon.

[A]

Yeah, that's a good.

[B]

Yo, bring that up for next week. Subscribe to the Patreon.

[C]

Yeah, we're gonna go through it because we got to sit and enjoy. Enjoy. You think the Jay Z with Frasier was good?

[B]

Wait till you see Quincy just going off now. Now, Laura Styles, are you done with the rundown?

[A]

I am. That was the rundown.

[B]

Thank you very much. Hell of a rundown. You know, we like an outro for the intro or intro for the outro. Thank you, Laura. Oh, one more shout out to the cozy earth. Are these stripes on this rugby shirt distracting in the studio? Is it feeling loud?

[C]

No, not from where I am.

[B]

Oh, it's popping in the chat. The, the. The classic polo, rugby. Popping in the chat. They call you Tyler the creator, but.

[C]

Yeah, Tyler the creator. Yeah, he's been into that. That look. Plus you got like that little hat on your big ass dome. You know what I mean?

[B]

Oh, now I don't like it as much.

[C]

Why? You thought. You thought that was like A complete original. No one else had done this.

[B]

No. I've been wearing rugby shirts for the longest.

[C]

Yeah, you do. They come and go.

[B]

And had small hats on my big head.

[C]

Yeah, that hat's hanging on for dear life to that head. No, this is your look more than Tyler's. But it's giving Tyler.

[B]

But Tyler stole it now because he's the modern day.

[C]

Well, he's.

[B]

He's. And he's tired.

[C]

He's out here.

[B]

You think Tyler's more popular than me is what you're saying? No.

[C]

Duro says Beat it is amazing. Juden Foster says Beat it is fire. PBNYC says bad is Beat it part two. I do. I see what you're saying, for sure. And Reggie Marshall says, beat it is my jam. I'll say this. When I was four years old. Five. Four years old.

[B]

Are y' all trolling us saying Beat it is my jam?

[C]

My mom gave me that Beat it watch. Oh, man. I pushed the button.

[B]

Do do do do do do.

[A]

That's fire.

[C]

It broke so fast.

[A]

It did.

[C]

The whole band just fell off. And I was heartbroken. I think she got me a new one. But I was. We lived through a great time, man. I was exactly the right. This sounds nuts. I was exactly the right age for Michael.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

I was four years old. A four year old little white boy.

[B]

Hey, can you sit? I need my DMX AO in the. In for life.

[C]

That's fair.

[B]

Ladies and gentlemen, hit the super chat. We appreciate all the people locking in. Yo, they told me yesterday. And by they, I mean Lou and them and Rahsaan and Griff told us, like, we have808,000 people coming through the show every day. Yeah, that's fire, bro.

[A]

That's amazing.

[C]

Yeah, My parents are now watching most days.

[B]

Yo, Mindy, Mike, what's happening?

[C]

They're like, they had told. My mom was like, we've been watching the show. Any feedback? My dad gives me, like political feedback.

[B]

What do you say?

[C]

And just like, he'll comment sort of as in real time. He said something to us yesterday about when we were talking about Iran and gas prices and he was like, gas prices? This is more. This is, you know, this is modern day Hitler stuff.

[B]

You know, my dad, mj, you're right, but we were trying to make it.

[C]

No, he understands.

[B]

He's just digestible and real for, you know, regular everyday.

[C]

My dad also complained that Laura's mic was too low.

[A]

Is it really?

[C]

And my mom did too.

[A]

Oh, no.

[C]

I said, we have her up above us. We tr. We're trying.

[A]

We get, like, mixed because people tell me that it's great. And then some people, I don't know, I guess it depends when you're watching.

[B]

I can't Trust Mindy and MJ's technology over there, can we?

[C]

Well, I think you just can't trust their ears. There's, you know, 78.

[B]

I said I wasn't gonna go.

[A]

Don't go there.

[B]

You said I wasn't gonna say. I went out to technology. I was gonna blame you for not getting them. No, they're watching technology.

[C]

They're on their tv.

[B]

Did you get them a new speaker?

[C]

A speaker? No.

[B]

You got some sort of speaker to go with their television. You got them a right surround system. You got them like, you know, a sound bar under their television.

[C]

They at one point had a sound bar, but I think they're just watching off the tv.

[B]

Listen, Rosa, you need to go over there and upgrade them. Get them together. Take a trip down there to Maryland. Invest in there.

[A]

That's a nice gift.

[B]

Yeah, There you go. Look at him. Look at him. Look at. He doesn't want to do nothing.

[C]

My mom. No, my mom doesn't want anything. It'll. It's just like. She's like, ah, more stuff. We don't need it. Like, it won't. It won't. And then are they gonna use it? Are they gonna, like, really use the sound bar properly? I mean, maybe.

[B]

Hang on one second. Yo, y' all ask for microphones over there, which means when you start mumbling off the air, it's on the air.

[C]

YouTube is messing up. What do you mean when YouTube's messing up? It started a glitch. Error messages are coming across on the. Oh, no, not for me.

[B]

Yeah, maybe it's just y' all system.

[C]

Oh, no, hold on.

[B]

Oh, it's everybody. YouTube's down. Numbers went crazy. We talked about Michael Jackson. I apologize to offset. Things went left. Oh, well, we're live. Listen. Hopefully people get us, but we'll continue to do the show.

[C]

We do have super chat in here, though.

[B]

Can we get to. Speaking of MJ and politics, throw up the 10 point plan, courtesy of the Iranian government. This was the proposed plan going over to Trump. Trump has now that's Tehran's statement on the left, official statement from Iran that Trump put up. And then you see highlighted there where he talks about a 10 point plan. On the right side is the 10 point plan. Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again permanent into the war, not just a ceasefire, into Israeli strikes in Lebanon, which we talked about. Lebanon, Southern Lebanon, and the millions of people who are displaced because Iran is trying to expand its borders.

[C]

All right.

[B]

Lifting U.S. sanctions on Iran into all regional fighting against Iranian allies. Well, Iran would reopen the Strait of Hormuz. Iran would impose a two million dollar fee per ship. Iran would split these fees with Oman. Iran would establish rules for the safe passage through Hormuz. Iran would use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations. That last one says to me that they were also going to sue for reparations and war crimes in an international court.

[C]

And they're saying, effective anyway. Just let us use the.

[B]

Well, they're not even saying let us. They're saying, this is what we're going to do with the money.

[C]

Well, this is.

[B]

They're not asking for permission in that. They're just saying, here's the deal.

[C]

Right? This is our deal.

[B]

Because based on the way this plays out, has been playing out. Doesn't seem like they're asking for permission. Right, Laura?

[A]

So now Trump is like, where. He's okay with this? He's ready to negotiate.

[C]

Negotiate.

[B]

Well, that's the. I think that's where the negotiation starts. Where. If that's what the deal actually ends up being. I don't. We don't know yet. But the next two weeks of this alleged ceasefire, which I'll repeat again, as of this morning, there were still bombs being dropped.

[C]

There were questions.

[B]

Lebanon, the ceasing hasn't stopped.

[C]

Yeah, let's. You know, the ceasing hasn't started.

[B]

The ceasing. There you go. The one piece of all of this that is most bewildering to me is them being like, yo, we gonna charge y' all a toll now at the straight or move.

[A]

Right. A little two mil.

[B]

So basically, we got into a situation of war and created a financial situation where there was none in the beginning. That is the. Congratulations. You played yourself.

[A]

And now we're gonna pay.

[C]

So let me hear the issues we're gonna have with this deal. 1. Yeah, they're gonna say, guarantee Iran won't be attacked again. No problem. They'll say yes. Two, permanent end to the war. Not just a ceasefire, obviously.

[A]

Okay.

[C]

Built in already an issue at three end Israeli strikes in Lebanon.

[A]

I don't believe that.

[C]

Is Daddy bb Is Daddy Bibi saying okay to that? Because I don't know if he is. And if he doesn't, is Trump gonna be?

[B]

Well, and Israel has already said that they're not gonna stop even if. Even if the US Works a Deal with Iran, I believe in lieu. Check, check on this. As of yesterday, Israel has said that they're not stopping.

[C]

So that could create a problem either with the deal or with the United States and Israel. Now, if Trump was smart and, you know, reading the tea leaves, I would say I would push back against Israel and try to make this deal with Iran. Because if you care at all about midterm elections, popularity, the Israel thing ain't going well at all. This association isn't winning. I know the AIPAC part and the money part and all that stuff is important.

[B]

No, no, no. But you know how many Democrats are claiming they're out on AIPAC now?

[C]

Cory Booker.

[B]

Yeah.

[C]

Cory Booker last week was saying Bibi Netanyahu is a war criminal and should be arrested. You know what it takes for Cory Booker.

[B]

Cory Booker's not more Jewish than Rosenberg.

[C]

Yeah. Cory Booker's wearing a yarmulke when he said it.

[A]

Wait, he actually said it? Because I've only seen clips of him kind of soft sh. No, no, no.

[B]

What? He didn't say. He didn't say that. That it was a genocide in Gaza. He didn't say that.

[C]

No.

[B]

But he did say Bibi Netanyahu's a

[C]

war evil, war criminal. And all the bad that he fully. So something has shifted. That's going to be interesting to watch where the Democrats, even the mainstream ones now are full on. We do not support what's happening.

[B]

Tucker Carlson's network put out a documentary I saw about how Bibi Netanyahu has been funding Hamas.

[C]

It's still interesting to me that he cares so much.

[A]

I just. I was going to say that the interesting part about all of this is how this is the one thing that's uniting the Magus and the Democrats.

[C]

Well, it's. And again, that's where I think gets very complicated because for good people, they're uniting over Israel, doing terrible things.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

However, every time, how triggered I am when I hear what Tucker Carlson's doing, of course, that's the uniting of just Jew hatred. And it's like, this is the perfect place. I couldn't believe my man from the Young Turks sat down with Tucker Carlson. I could not believe that.

[B]

Who's that?

[C]

What's my man's name from the Young Turks, the main guy who's like, the Young Turks are a hugely popular, probably the most popular liberal kind of outlet on the Internet for the last 20 years. And their main dude, whose name I'm forgetting, he goes on Piers Morgan a lot, too.

[B]

And he fights with Dark Haired dude, right?

[C]

Yeah, exactly.

[B]

Sink.

[C]

He goes on and fights with right wingers all the time and he's super anti Israel and all these things. I saw he did an interview with Tucker Carlson and I was just like.

[B]

And you don't believe there's a path forward, some of these people who have been anti Israel to realize that whatever the anti Semitism that they've delved in was their own ignorance. And really it was tied to their dislike of Israel.

[C]

Not with Tucker Carlson. Because Tucker Carlson is not just. We're not going to act like Tucker Carlson's only thing is anti Semitism. That's just the thing that triggers me. He's been wrong on absolutely everything. Always. The only thing he's ever been right on is. And isn't it odd that these terrible people. And I'm not mincing words, terrible people. Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Nick Fuentes. Isn't it odd? Nick Fuentes, Alex Jones.

[A]

Oh, my God.

[C]

These are bonafide horrible human beings. And yet now they're all lined up on we hate Israel and we hate Trump. None of these people have changed

[A]

what

[C]

happened at Sandy Hook. These are people who have hated every group ever open white supremacy, supremacist, Ebro. And now you're going to stand next to them because they're anti Israel.

[B]

They're grifters, though. And they're also controlled opposition. I've been telling you guys this for weeks.

[A]

You're right. But the root of it is white supremacy.

[C]

It's still all there. I can't believe how people are ignoring it.

[B]

Yes.

[C]

And that's the part that scares me is I'm like, damn that.

[B]

The reason I keep bringing up the controlled opposition part is because it's the, it's, it's the handlebars of the nation is the best way I could describe it, where there's this constant faction of individuals that are like, twisting and turning the narrative constantly in a particular direction for whatever the financial gain is or whatever the infrastructure is trying to do to keep us as citizens on some sort of path. Right on towards a destination for these individuals to make a lot of money. It all for me goes back to the money and controlling the purse strings of the White House and the federal government. Right. Because if you're looking at what's happening right now, how much money is going out the back door of the White House? Our tax dollars.

[C]

A ton.

[B]

Right. And so I believe that all of these individuals you just named.

[C]

Yeah.

[B]

Benefited from that. Joe Rogan, all of them. Stephen A. Smith, all of them, I believe they all benefited from, in some way shape or form that money going out the back door. And so I always think the game is, is people are trying to get control of the White House and make sure that they got a play to put in the people that they want to put in so that they can go up there and get bags and get contracts and be privy to deals. And be privy to what?

[C]

I guess I just don't understand what, what, what does that have to do with the Alex Joneses of the world?

[B]

Because, because it's all about money.

[C]

But, but he being. How does being.

[B]

Because they're over Trump now that now the move is to be over Trump, we're over Israel and now we're on to the next grift.

[A]

I mean, people, right?

[B]

And so now I can turn. I can get people talking and pivot. Now people have short term memory. I can pivot to the next grift and we can get paid.

[A]

Cause people like Nick Fuentes are like, they're just not radical enough.

[C]

You know what I mean about maga?

[B]

Yes, yes.

[C]

Yeah.

[A]

It's like, and, but people, they wanted,

[C]

they wanted these immigrants. They want. They are disappointed. They stopped. They left Minnesota.

[A]

Yes, yes, yes. They want more aggression, they want more violence. They're like, this is nothing.

[C]

Someone posted a picture of Kanye and Nick Fuentes together within a year. And Kanye was wearing the swastika ice. And he's like, I'm with my white supremacist brother, Nick Fuentes. And I was like, wow, that was very recent, bro. Maya was alive for that. Like, that was very recent. So I just, I can't believe people keep. Like, Tucker Carlson is potentially very dangerous for this country. So to see progressives go and sit and have normal chats with him because they agree on Israel being doing terrible things to the world right now. What are you doing, bro? Like, why do you have to make friends?

[B]

Because we gotta have conversations, Rosenberg. We gotta be able to have conversations. Wow.

[C]

You think Netanyahu is awful also and terrible for the world, the safety of Palestinians, Jews and everyone. I think the same thing.

[B]

Cool.

[C]

Do we agree about anything else? No. So what is there to talk about?

[B]

But we got to come to terms. We got to talk with people on the other side of the aisle, Rosenberg.

[C]

I know.

[B]

We got to live together. These are our neighbors.

[C]

I know. That's why it's too bad we never had any of the right wingers on our show. We could have learned so much.

[B]

All that money going out the back door of the White House. We could have got paid. Look at you. Look at us having morals now. We're just on YouTube. Look at us.

[C]

Just on YouTube.

[B]

Just on YouTube, man. Academics was out here pushing the maga movement. Yo, Charlemagne was like pro democrat talking guy while also hanging out with the Trumps on the show. He had them all up there.

[C]

Yo, put me next to Ben Shapiro and we'll do a little thing together and give you performance.

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Let's get this algo hustle going.

[C]

Yeah, man, because it's serious.

[B]

But it's with the button, bro.

[A]

I mean, guys, remember, according to everyone else, we're getting bags of cash from the Democrats.

[C]

Oh, from the Democrats.

[A]

The giant bags of cash.

[C]

Thank you for that, by the way. Who was it? Was it Cory Booker?

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It was the Democrats and Kendrick Lamar.

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Yeah, they're like paid. You guys are paid. I was like, what?

[B]

But remember, every accusation is a confession. Every accusation is a confession. Facts. You guys want to get to the gurus?

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Let's go.

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Pow.

[C]

Hey, yo. It's time for the gurus.

[B]

Rosenberg.

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Laura, you know you are a beautiful queen. Ebro, don't ever play yourself.

[B]

You're not a guru.

[A]

Ah, the original gurusmail.com. the original gurus. Gmail.com send us your emails. Where the gurus unite.

[B]

Sidebar. Lou just text and said people want MJ on the show. And I'm assuming you mean Jafar the actor.

[C]

No, he mean my dad.

[B]

Okay. I was about to say guess who's not coming up here. Anybody from that family.

[C]

You don't think so?

[B]

Bro, if they wouldn't let the movie cover the impacts of how.

[C]

They're not doing a random podcast.

[B]

They're not just doing a podcast with three outspoken individuals who get ourselves constantly in trouble with artists.

[C]

My dad, I could get though. I get him. We can maybe from Patreon.

[A]

That mj. Yes. Okay. Okay.

[B]

Bring his mustache up here. Let's get.

[C]

No, I think we can get him on. You think I get him to figure out the Riverside? Yeah, I think you figure it out. Let's see. Oh,

[B]

it's taking longer than Rosenberg.

[A]

Who's writing to us. Who needs us?

[C]

Alright. Yeah, I know it's confused by that email. Sorry, apologies. The. The original gurusmail.com. the original gurusmail.Com your destination for clarity to Ebro Laura Rosenberg show. My name is Lucas and I'm a young Asian guy living in Arkansas. I'm reaching out because I have leave a political. Sorry, I have a political dilemma. I'd love to get your perspective on okay. Even though Arkansas is one of the reddest states in the country, I stand with the Democrats and I try to err on the right side of history. The challenge is that living in such a deeply red area, I sometimes encounter people with views I wholeheartedly disagree with. For the sake of keeping the peace, I often pretend to be indifferent toward politics, even though, as a very concerned citizen, I make sure to stay informed. In your experience, how do you handle being in situations where people are being very vocal about one side of the fence when you're firmly on the other? Do you respectfully offer your viewpoint and try to engage in a smart discussion, or is it better to just play dumb to avoid the conflict altogether? I've been a huge fan of the show since 2015. I never missed the interviews, and I love the energy you guys are bringing right now. Please keep doing what you're doing. I'd love to hear your thoughts on this.

[B]

I do the same thing, sir.

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You what?

[B]

I do the same thing.

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But do you ever hear. I was gonna ask you that, though. I was gonna say maybe we don't fully relate to him in that we are in rooms with people who have those views, but I'm never in rooms where people are espousing those views.

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Same.

[B]

Oh, yeah. I've never. I've never heard espousement where it forces me to engage, but I have heard little comments where I'm like. I've definitely been like, yo, I'm not talking to you about that.

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In your head, you're saying, no, no,

[B]

I say it out loud. I bet we're not having this conversation. Why? Why are we not having this combo? Because we see it different. It's nothing to talk about, so.

[C]

But there are other times. I'm guessing you don't say anything.

[B]

Then there's times. Well, no, I'm trying to think, is there times? Because I just might make a smart alec comment. But I've never heard espouse where people

[C]

are like, so from a power. But from a power dynamic standpoint, he's in a much different situation.

[A]

Right.

[C]

He's the Asian guy in Arkansas where he likes living, and he's generally happy with his life and they're espousing it out loud.

[A]

That has to be hard.

[C]

I don't know.

[A]

Numbered.

[C]

Yeah. I don't know if you find a nice way, if it's the right subject, to be like, oh, did you ever think about it? X, Y, and Z? I don't know. I mean, you could do that, but I guess.

[B]

Look, when he says they're espousing. Is it in your private space? Are you just driving by places where people are standing on the corner screaming?

[A]

It's probably that. It's Arkansas, so.

[B]

Well, but no, but, like, if I'm in a room like this, yeah. And people are having a convo about something political, and I vehemently disagree with it. I'm saying something. But if I'm just, like, walking through the mall and I hear some randos saying some nonsense, right. I'm not stopping to debate. Like, I think about people in the

[C]

circle he's in at the time.

[A]

I think about him stepping out to a party, and everyone is, you know, a Trump supporter going to a restaurant.

[C]

You know, the music's whack at that

[A]

party, and I'm leaving certain friend groups, you know.

[C]

Yeah, the music's whack. If you're at a restaurant, the food ain't good, man.

[B]

Listen. You see what's happening in hip hop, bro?

[C]

It's forgiato blow.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? But not even that. There's mad rappers that have, you know, been cool with Maga Waka Flocka. Ain't he out here going ham on it?

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Sexy Red.

[C]

I love Waka Flocka.

[B]

Sexy Red, I think, is just getting.

[C]

Yeah, Sexy Red kind of came back away from. From it. She. I mean, you know, I don't believe

[B]

as far as Waka Flock is, like, speaking engagement.

[C]

No, no, he's still. He's going to Washington.

[A]

Yeah.

[C]

Yo, you know how nuts that is, how desperate they are to have people on their side that the Republicans are like, we have Walka Flocka Flame. That is so insane.

[B]

Oh, they got Nikki. No, Nikki's got Fire, man. Anyways, that discoga, yo, if you're at a Nikki Waka Flock, a Little Wayne, same management team.

[C]

By the way, should we be looking at Walker's mom? What's going on?

[B]

Who else is. Who else got Fire Flame? That's Maga. Couple of Nick Cannon cuts. Gigolo throwing gigolo in there, man.

[C]

A lot of heat rock. Anyway, so it just depends on what you're comfortable with, you know? I mean, you don't want to. If you like living there and this is where you're at and it's. You don't want to, like, jeopardize the whole thing. But if you like someone and you're comfortable with them, maybe you could engage in a conversation.

[B]

Well, and also, too, there is the world, like, in the back of my mind sometimes, like, you hear people saying stuff like, on the Internet or whatever. What's the point of engaging with them? Like what is real? Like when we're talking about arguing with people who were dumb enough to vote for Donald Trump and believe it was a good idea.

[C]

Right?

[B]

Think about this. Why are we talking to them? You thought this was a good idea. You really like everything that's going on right now.

[C]

I know in some ways it's even harder than talking to people who you're more likely to run into who know he's a disaster. But we're like just selfish. They were like, ah, but you know, tax breaks and you're like, wow, you're a bad guy. But I at least get what you're doing to talk to someone who's like, I mean America's gonna be great again that you're like, we don't have anything

[B]

to you believe or like they're religiously tied to Donald Trump. Like you took that serious. Like you're your faith and the people you gather with said that this guy was the guy Christ.

[C]

Like he means he's a Christ liked individual. Is that what you think?

[B]

This is what you saw? You saw in this individual deliverance.

[A]

So maybe maybe find, try to find groups where more like minded people.

[B]

Sorry, Laura. Sorry. Because I wanted those banjos. I wish I had those banjos. Right When I said Deliverance it was like, oh, wrong. It was the other Deliverance.

[C]

Right, Those banjos. I, I always had dueling banjos in my. I always kept those on.

[B]

Sorry back.

[A]

No. Anyway, I would say maybe look for some like minded people. Maybe see if there's like a little small group of Democrats, you know that are in your city and group that you can connect with. But other than that, I'm with you. I said take it case by case. Some people are not worth even wasting your energy. That's just they're brainwashed and that's what they want. And if you see an open door for somebody to have maybe a decent discussion, then you could do that. But just don't trust it.

[B]

You Asian in Arkansas too? They could be setting your ass up.

[A]

Why don't be careful, man.

[C]

Why don't you just join the local chapter of Progressive Asians in Arkansas. I don't understand or move.

[B]

I want you to write us back and let us know why you're tethered to Arkansas.

[A]

Well, maybe he was born in bre there and that's how he knows I born.

[B]

I was born and raised somewhere too. I moved so.

[A]

Well, good luck.

[B]

People move all the time.

[C]

People move every day.

[A]

So see the gurus.

[B]

Damn it.

[C]

Maybe it was a big Razorbacks fan,

[B]

so he moved to Arkansas.

[C]

Love Nolan Richardson. Love Bill Clinton. You know, Clinton got.

[B]

That is crazy when you think about Clinton and Hillary from Arkansas, right?

[C]

Well, Clinton from Arkansas, Hillary's from New York.

[B]

No, New York, ladies and gentlemen, that's another program. Shout out to Cozy Earth one more time. Going there right now. Get them PJs for Mama's Day.

[A]

That's right. Use the code ELR.

[B]

You know what I'm saying? Do that. I mean Patreon. Coming up in 45 minutes, a new Patreon drops. Right? We drop it at 10:00am, 9, 30, 15 minutes.

[C]

Special. A special one.

[B]

Today, things get even.

[A]

Emo.

[C]

Very emo.

[B]

But we'll be back manana with more good times, more updates on the goings ons in the world. And we truly, truly appreciate all of y' all spending your mornings with us right here at elr, the Ebro Laura Rosenberg Show. See ya. Just don't call it a podcast.

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This is the powerful new single from Daughtry. It's called Antidote.

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