Ebro Darden (1:47)

Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I have some new interesting 50 Cent, a new story and that I'm excited about. We gotta get into Ms. Cardi B. She's killing it on tour, but she did a couple things that made me smile. I just like to celebrate.

Laura (2:01)

We didn't get to her bringing out Meek Mills.

Ebro Darden (2:03)

We didn't. Yes. And I'm just so proud of her every time I see a video.

Rosenberg (2:06)

Have you just made a decision in your brain or is it completely coincidental that you now always call her Ms. Cardi B?

Ebro Darden (2:11)

You know what it is? It's a thing that is my friend group. One of my homegirls used to say it so we would make fun of her, and now it's stuck.

Rosenberg (2:18)

So she said it and you were like, why are you calling her Ms. Cardi B? And now you and have me going, why do you call her Ms. Cardi B?

Ebro Darden (2:23)

Now you're gonna be Ms. Cardi Cardi B.

Rosenberg (2:25)

It's. It's. It's like she's like someone's grandma. I know, I know. Hey, Ms. Cardi.

Ebro Darden (2:30)

Not Mrs. Miss.

Rosenberg (2:31)

Ms. Cardi B. Ms. Cardi B.

Laura (2:33)

Hey, Ms. Cardi B. Heyth Ms. Cardi.

Rosenberg (2:36)

Or sometimes you say Ms. To like little babies too.

Ebro Darden (2:39)

Oh, yeah, People do that. Yes.

Rosenberg (2:41)

Hi, Ms. Maya. You know, it's like a cutesy way to refer to a child at Kenzo

Ebro Darden (2:46)

School to go, Hi, Ms. Kenza.

Rosenberg (2:47)

Yeah. So she's Ms. Cardi B.

Laura (2:49)

Now, do you guys. In my house, all of the kids and I was raised this way, but Issa and Selassie call adults that are not like aunt or grandma by Ms. Ms. Or mister.

Rosenberg (3:04)

That is definitely not. Wasn't my. That's. That's very. I believe that's very black. And just calling people loose by their first names is very white.

Ebro Darden (3:13)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (3:14)

No, don't miss somebody.

Ebro Darden (3:15)

No, I haven't done the misting. But I. I am very big on Kenza using saying excuse me and like, certain. Thank you. Because she. She's like, right now she's interrupting. So I'm like. And I always tell her, I can't hear you. How do you ask, Excuse me, Mom. You know what I mean?

Rosenberg (3:29)

So she doesn't just.

Ebro Darden (3:30)

Yes.

Laura (3:31)

Barge in. That's good.

Ebro Darden (3:32)

Yeah, we're working on that.

Laura (3:34)

But yeah, that. That's a thing. Obviously, the pleases and thank yous are a thing for Selassie, but for sure, putting whatever that respect word is in front of the. The thing.

Rosenberg (3:46)

I wonder why that's a thing. Because, like, yeah, it was never a thing in my house. I called my parents friends by their first name. And I don't think that there was any negative.

Laura (3:57)

You know, I think for me, it was just, you know, I was like, I said on the Patreon this week, I was raised by people who were from the 20s and 30s.

Rosenberg (4:08)

Yeah.

Laura (4:08)

You know what I mean? So, like black people at a certain time, like, you're a kid, who are you talking to?

Ebro Darden (4:16)

Right, right, right.

Laura (4:17)

Well, if you're talking like we're just

Rosenberg (4:21)

equals, but I also wonder if that gets deeper into some real cultural and societal.

Laura (4:25)

Yeah, it does. And.

Rosenberg (4:26)

And you know, to make it in the world, you got to know that you have to approach people in a certain way. Or whereas growing up white, you don't have that built in of you need to do that. Yeah, right. You're more comfortable. It's like, well, I can call adults. My parents friends are Ken and Leslie. So we call them Ken and leslie, right?

Ebro Darden (4:44)

Yeah.

Laura (4:45)

Mr. Ken.

Rosenberg (4:47)

Never called him mister. He's my brother's godfather. I never called him Mr. Ken.

Ebro Darden (4:50)

Growing up in Spanish, we did it. Now that I'm thinking about it, I'm like, yeah, everyone was donya, mari, or senor.

Rosenberg (4:56)

Really?

Ebro Darden (4:56)

Yes. Yes. That's how we refer to other adults.

Rosenberg (4:59)

I mean, like, I don't think there's one. Right.

Laura (5:01)

It's just a hierarchy thing. But it probably. I don't know culturally why, but I know, you know, and in, you know, black communities, it's just like, you're not just walking. You're not who. What?

Rosenberg (5:13)

But I look at the exact opposite. It's like, but these are your friends. Like, why you gotta call them?

Laura (5:18)

Well, they may not be friends. They. You know what I mean? They might just be a neighbor.

Rosenberg (5:21)

Well, so that. Wouldn't that almost be a different.

Laura (5:23)

Oh, you know what I'm saying? Because it's also too. It's like, it's not your friends. It's your parents friends.

Ebro Darden (5:29)

Right.

Laura (5:29)

Not your friends.

Ebro Darden (5:30)

Right, right.

Laura (5:31)

That's the problem.

Rosenberg (5:32)

But that's not a problem.

Laura (5:33)

Well, no, it is.

Rosenberg (5:34)

But why?

Laura (5:35)

Because they're not your friends.

Rosenberg (5:36)

But what do you mean? They're more than friends. They're like people who watch me from a child who cared for me.

Laura (5:41)

Right. So then they're like family. But why you would give your mom and dad some sort of mom and dad. Mommy and daddy is some form of respect title. You wouldn't call. You wouldn't be like, hey, yo, Mindy, listen.

Rosenberg (5:55)

We're really arguing for the sake of just like.

Laura (5:58)

Yeah, I'm just. I'm really trying to figure it out. I don't know the answer as to why.

Rosenberg (6:01)

I think that, you know, for me, the relationship that I have with my parents, friends, and the casual nature of it, I thought was super beneficial to the way that I'm able to kind of be a conversationalist. From being very young, everyone was treated very much like, you're at the table, you talk to everyone you're there. Not like. But I didn't even call my uncle Uncle Sam to his face. I would more likely call him Sam.

Ebro Darden (6:24)

Okay?

Rosenberg (6:25)

And I call. Now, as I got older, I started to call him uncle as a term of endearment. Got it. But as a kid, I didn't. But my niece and nephew all called my parents Aunt Mindy and Uncle Mike. Always.

Laura (6:35)

It was just literally, like, person to person. I definitely am not. The kids are to be seen and not heard. Like, I was raised in that. I was Raised where if adults were sitting around having a convo, kids, angels jumping and talking.

Rosenberg (6:47)

Right.

Laura (6:48)

That. What. Right. I allowed Issa to participate in convo so that she could have, like, what you're talking about, the ability to converse with adults. Like, I think that's important. But also, there was times where I had to be like, all right, chill. You know, I mean, it begin. It gets. Start getting like, you're trying to take over the convo now. Now, go sit down. You've said enough.

Rosenberg (7:10)

And I see. I. Well, I've seen. Even when Issa's on our show, I can see when Ebro feels that Issa's getting long winded. It's like watching me during a break, he's like, all right, wrap it up. Get to the punchline. Let's get out.

Laura (7:20)

Well, she is long winded, and so are you. Wrap it up.

Rosenberg (7:24)

And both are relevant, but I see that's a.

Laura (7:27)

Being concise, is it? But that's. That has nothing to do with her as a child. Being concise with your thoughts is. Is more of a headline for me in life. Because people. People love to hear themselves talk, and they do ramble.

Rosenberg (7:42)

Yeah. I actually think. Well, first of all, two things. One, I think you're right. Two, I think you also do it. Three, I know I do it, and I wish I did it better, because the people who I enjoy talking, I enjoy listening to talk the most. I'm gonna make an effort right now are the people I can tell are deliberate and thoughtful with each word. You ever hear when Costas would call the Keisha?

Laura (8:05)

Oh, man, he's the best. Bob Costas. No.

Rosenberg (8:08)

No wasted words. No ums, no extra. He talks a little bit slower, and he thinks about each word, and you just are like, I heard everything that guy just said. That's right.

Ebro Darden (8:22)

So I received and understood.

Rosenberg (8:24)

Right. And I want to work on that, because I do. I think I have a tendency where some of my stories don't hit as well simply because I'm using flaws.

Laura (8:32)

So, like, even me, the thing I focus on is the tangents. Right. Because when you're talking, when you start, when something will pique your interest while you're talking, and then you want to explain that tangent throws the whole thing off, throws you, takes you down a path. Then you got to regroup.

Ebro Darden (8:48)

Yeah.

Laura (8:49)

You gotta come back. You lost people now, and now you lost people. Yeah, that's the piece I. But to your point about Bob Costas, there's other great talkers, too, who just know how to tell a great story, and it's concise and clear, and it captivates you and I. But I also think some of this is also working in radio for 30 years, where most of the talking I do is for work.

Rosenberg (9:10)

Right.

Laura (9:10)

I don't talk really outside of work.

Rosenberg (9:13)

But you've also mentioned that you are also an interrupter because you're impatient when people talk as well.

Laura (9:19)

Yes.

Rosenberg (9:20)

So both can be true. You are right. At least in terms of me. But you're also impatient when people talk. Yes, all that. So when your daughter talks and you're like, all right, I let you participate.

Laura (9:31)

No, no, no. Calm down about this. No, it's not even that. I'll say, issa, what's this movie about? She'll give you the full movie. So it starts like this. Here's the beginning. And then she's gonna walk into this door, and. And I'm like, no, I just need the synopsis. So some of that is just. She's 11, so I love that she has so much vocabulary to give. I'm just watching to see if she could really bundle up the.

Rosenberg (9:52)

I enjoy hearing Issa talk and be long winded a little kid, because sometimes when I don't talk to her enough and I just see photos, or you mention her, and this is something you do that always drives me nuts. You make everyone so old so fast. I personally get upset and sad that she's so old, and then I see her and she talks, and I'm like, oh, you're still a little kid.

Ebro Darden (10:13)

You're 11.

Rosenberg (10:13)

Because from a distance between Ebro's stories and a photo where she's wearing a whole football uniform, I'm like, this girl's in college.

Laura (10:21)

She looks like a kid.

Rosenberg (10:22)

And then when she starts talking, I'm like, oh, there's Issa.

Ebro Darden (10:25)

Yeah.

Laura (10:25)

I mean, she's still 11. She's still 11.

Rosenberg (10:28)

But the way you talk about people, listeners, you know, in two weeks, he's gonna start talking about Selassie, like, she's preparing for the boards. And you're like, she's.

Laura (10:37)

Well, no, she is preparing for what? Whatever you just said.

Rosenberg (10:40)

What'd you say? The boards? I don't know. Of some sort.

Laura (10:44)

Well, whatever it is, she's prepared. Everybody's ready. Workout videos, all of it.

Rosenberg (10:49)

Holding herself up, man. I'm. I'm always judging now, Maya. Based on what, Celeste?

Ebro Darden (10:54)

Why?

Rosenberg (10:55)

Because I. Because my. Is because you depress it.

Laura (10:57)

No, you need to judge Maya based on the environment that she's in.

Ebro Darden (11:00)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rosenberg (11:01)

You mean living with idiots? She's going to be an idiot.

Laura (11:03)

What are you talking about?

Rosenberg (11:04)

I'm just kidding. We said the environment.

Laura (11:05)

So she's. She's going to be. She's going to be musically divers, she's going to love music. She be a great talker. Great talk. She's going to love pets, you know what I'm saying? These are things. Issa's afraid of pigeons.

Ebro Darden (11:18)

She is?

Rosenberg (11:18)

Why? Who's afraid of pigeons?

Laura (11:20)

Her mom, probably. I don't know. No, her mom for sure. I'm annoyed by it. I'm annoyed. How do you grow up in a city, in a place where there's pigeons and you're afraid? I don't understand. Like, I'll be like, yo, you're afraid of like. What are we talking about? Just, I got bothers.

Rosenberg (11:36)

You've explained to her the pigeons will not bother you.

Ebro Darden (11:39)

They're more scared of you A thousand times.

Rosenberg (11:41)

They don't. They're not. I've never seen a pigeon time, bro.

Ebro Darden (11:45)

I've never seen a pigeon get like that with Ricardo, cuz he's arachnophobic with little spiders. I was like, ricardo, you're bigger than the spider.

Rosenberg (11:52)

He's like, no, but spiders are scared.

Ebro Darden (11:55)

I'm like, here, look. And I smash it and stare at him.

Rosenberg (11:58)

No, you're crazy.

Ebro Darden (11:59)

It's gone.

Rosenberg (11:59)

I'm shocked to hear that from you. That scares me.

Laura (12:01)

I don't.

Ebro Darden (12:02)

I don't care.

Rosenberg (12:03)

Spiders don't scare you.

Ebro Darden (12:04)

I just listen. It depends if they're big enough where if I crush it, juices are going to ooze out and it's going to be like a murder scene. Then.

Laura (12:11)

Yes.

Rosenberg (12:12)

It's early though.

Ebro Darden (12:13)

I don't want to do it scare you. I mean, they're gross, the big ass water.

Rosenberg (12:17)

But I'll kill one scare you, though.

Ebro Darden (12:19)

It's me against them. I'll win.

Rosenberg (12:20)

I know, I know.

Ebro Darden (12:22)

Listen, when you walk in, you don't

Rosenberg (12:24)

scream, you don't go, oh my God,

Ebro Darden (12:26)

yes, I'll get grossed out. But if it's me, me against him, I'm winning. No, now, when I was a kid, I told you I used to pick up water bugs and throw them at kids who used to be mean to me.

Rosenberg (12:35)

See, now.

Laura (12:36)

Now you get to it.

Rosenberg (12:36)

See? No, but now we're getting into the crazy. It's more than. She's not scared. She wants. She likes them.

Ebro Darden (12:42)

They were mean to me.

Rosenberg (12:43)

Now I thought about you both. Now, Ebro, you're gonna go crazy, bro.

Ebro Darden (12:48)

Oh my God.

Rosenberg (12:48)

Have you seen on Hulu, I think it came up after Paradise, I believe on Hulu. I don't want to get it wrong. The bees, doc.

Ebro Darden (13:02)

No.

Rosenberg (13:03)

Nah, bro.

Ebro Darden (13:04)

Killer bees.

Rosenberg (13:05)

Not about killer.

Laura (13:08)

Now you wonder why Ken is all about death. And she's like, I don't know why my kid is all about death. Whack. Spider blood.

Rosenberg (13:14)

Throw the killer bees.

Laura (13:15)

Throw the cockroach.

Ebro Darden (13:16)

I'm not doing it in front of her.

Laura (13:18)

No, but it's in. It's in there. And you. And you don't realize how much you're doing in front of you.

Rosenberg (13:22)

And now. About now, Ebro. What? I said a bees, doc. She went killer bees. What's your instinct?

Laura (13:27)

A beehive and how bees work together and like, you know, your first.

Ebro Darden (13:31)

That was like, a pleasant documentary.

Rosenberg (13:32)

Well, not only that, but it's beyond that. They are how. They are literally the cornerstone of the entire planet. No. Ebro.

Laura (13:40)

No. You didn't know.

Rosenberg (13:40)

They followed these bees. Wait for this for three years. It's the first time ever they've done this.

Laura (13:46)

I'm watching this.

Rosenberg (13:47)

No, the zoom level. No. They know which bees they are. This here's this bee. Yo. Do you know that bees are entirely covered in fur? I did not realize this. All the way their eyes, everything is covered in fur.

Ebro Darden (14:04)

I just know they were furry from I've seen, you know, close ups, but.

Rosenberg (14:08)

Yeah.

Laura (14:09)

So you never seen the shirt I wear that Tyler makes for his golf wing, which. The one that says Save the bees on the back?

Rosenberg (14:17)

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Laura (14:18)

That's why. That's that whole thing. I like. I. It was, you know, I wasn't, like, always into this, but about 10 years ago, when people started talking about bees dying and the environment changing and climate change, there was a big convo, like, yo, bees are dying. We're in trouble. If the bees die, everyone dies. We're done.

Rosenberg (14:36)

One out of every three bites of food that you have, the food has been pollinated by bees.

Laura (14:43)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (14:44)

So a third of everything you eat is required. Bees are required for it. And I just watched, like, the first 20 minutes, and I was amazed to see how complicated yo. They show the. The bees turning into creatures from larva.

Laura (15:00)

Whatever.

Rosenberg (15:01)

No, it's. Check it out.

Ebro Darden (15:03)

I mean, even when you think about it, right. When you have allergies, they. They recommend that you get local honey to help you. That is a game changer.

Laura (15:11)

So my mom. My mom, in the 70s, because I have bad hay fever, was giving me bee pollen. Local bee pollen.

Ebro Darden (15:18)

Yes.

Laura (15:18)

That's basically every morning would give me a spoonful and bee pot. It Tastes like a. It's like a chewy, chalky substance, the actual pollen. And you. And you could buy it and wherever they sell, or you could buy local honey. But you basically are. What's the word I'm looking for? Not indoctrinate, but you're trying to. You're giving. You're inoculating your safe, you're inoculating yourself with whatever it is you're allergic to. So you build up for the season. It's not permanent before that season, but you have to start in like February. And that way by the time the pollen and all the flowers open right now, you've kind of inoculate, got your system built up and it works pretty good. Like, I. I've done it since I was a kid. I haven't done it a long time.

Ebro Darden (15:58)

It helps a lot.

Rosenberg (15:59)

It will. It makes a difference.

Laura (16:00)

It definitely makes it.

Ebro Darden (16:01)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (16:01)

But they're just an amazing, amazing species.

Laura (16:04)

I also, I love this for you, man. This is, this is the type of. This is good stuff to learn about your environment. Finally.

Rosenberg (16:10)

Finally. I. I've put you on to other docs before about environmental things. I enjoy things. I was big on Planet Earth.

Laura (16:18)

She was late.

Rosenberg (16:18)

You're not a David Attenborough, Big Stan, big Attenborough guy. But I was going to say, I finished.

Laura (16:24)

Thought she was just out here watching people dialogue and, and you know what I mean. In movies about emotions. I didn't know you.

Rosenberg (16:30)

I like those, too. I did Finish Paradise Season 2. It was a lot of fun. Paradise is a lot of fun.

Laura (16:36)

Was it better than season one? Different.

Rosenberg (16:39)

No, no, no. I'll just say this, but it was still good. I like the show. It's good. I'm gonna watch it again. Sterling K. Brown does a lot of lifting in that show.

Ebro Darden (16:49)

He does.

Rosenberg (16:50)

You take Sterling K. Brown out of that show. There are moments where I go, what am I watching? Cheesy, over the top, ridiculous. You watch for him, you're waiting for him to be superhero. Like.

Ebro Darden (17:02)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rosenberg (17:02)

Like. And there's still another thing for him post paradise that's going to be better than Paradise. That's like his, you know, solidify.

Laura (17:10)

This was his first big thing after this is Us, right?

Rosenberg (17:13)

Correct. So this is Us was his breakout.

Ebro Darden (17:15)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (17:15)

And he did that probably in his. I guess he started that probably around 40. And now he's 50, just turned 50. And this is his next big thing after that, where I'm sure he got the biggest bagaroo for.

Ebro Darden (17:24)

He looks amazing. He's 50.

Rosenberg (17:26)

He's 50.

Laura (17:27)

He looks great.

Rosenberg (17:28)

And then there'll be the next. Yeah, but there'll be another one.

Laura (17:31)

But he.

Rosenberg (17:32)

He does a lot of lifting in the show.

Laura (17:33)

I'm like, I. I hate that I'm at this place with TV shows where I can sniff out and I'm sure everybody does this, where you're like, oh, this is the. Like, stretch me out one more episode. Episode. I don't hate it. I hate. I can't. I'm angry. I'm like, so you just.

Rosenberg (17:48)

Game of Thrones was the worst at that. You'd be like, all right, we're getting nothing tonight. They're just punching. They're. They're. Skip. Y' all are going to run out of episodes, which they did, and you're wasting an episode tonight.

Laura (17:57)

Now, in the rewatch of Game of Thrones, which Jazz and I did during the pandemic much. Have you ever. You've rewatched?

Rosenberg (18:03)

I rewatched. I rewatched leading into the final season.

Ebro Darden (18:06)

Oh, I haven't rewatched the only rewatch I did because Ricardo never saw Boardwalk, so I did Boardwalk Empire with him.

Rosenberg (18:11)

Has he watched Game of Thrones?

Ebro Darden (18:13)

Yeah, he was in. He was in.

Laura (18:14)

No. The rewatch of Game of Thrones is much better than the initial for me.

Rosenberg (18:19)

I loved it. I loved the rewatch.

Laura (18:20)

That's why Rewatch was rocking.

Rosenberg (18:22)

That's why I didn't even hate the final season. Whenever I hated it, I was like, nah, I'm fine with it. Because I loved the setup to. When you watch it in order and you get there, your memory stronger and you realize they got to get through this season. And I understand it's not ideal, but.

Laura (18:36)

But they didn't fumble.

Rosenberg (18:37)

I don't think it's considered one of the biggest.

Laura (18:39)

No, considered a huge fumble.

Rosenberg (18:40)

Yeah. And I. And then everyone was really mad that. That. What's her face. That, you know, blondie that Khaleesi had, like, the heel turn for Khaleesi. Oh, people hate the heel turn for Khaleesi. I think it's interesting. Yeah.

Laura (18:57)

I mean, she was damaged goods. I mean, she went through a lot. That lady.

Rosenberg (19:00)

She went through a lot.

Laura (19:01)

You know. So what is.

Rosenberg (19:01)

She's a mother of dragons to you and me.

Laura (19:03)

Talk about it.

Rosenberg (19:04)

When are we getting the third season of.

Laura (19:07)

I haven't. Yo. This new season of.

Rosenberg (19:09)

It's like, ish.

Laura (19:10)

Third season of House of Dragons. All right. I'm in the House of Dragons, whatever this HBO thing that's going on right now. I tried to watch. I couldn't get into it.

Rosenberg (19:17)

I only did. I only gave it one.

Laura (19:19)

What's it called?

Rosenberg (19:21)

I forget. I'm going back. What is it? Night of the Seven Kingdoms.

Laura (19:25)

Did you like ask him? It was amazing.

Rosenberg (19:26)

Amazing?

Laura (19:27)

Yeah. I thought it was really good.

Rosenberg (19:29)

Funny.

Laura (19:29)

He went from amazing to I thought it was really good. This is why we're starting. It was a game of Thrones, like, you gotta listen. Not a lot of killing. Carefully. The setup, the story, the. The comedy. I thought it was good.

Rosenberg (19:41)

I want to go. I want to go back to it. I heard it was supposed to be great. Also last watch.

Laura (19:45)

And I'm going to compare your notes versus what? Because Rahsaan can't be trusted.

Rosenberg (19:50)

Last night, out of the blue. I haven't watched it yet. I had no idea it was coming. Hulu dropped a new Handmaid's Tale.

Ebro Darden (20:00)

What?

Rosenberg (20:01)

Yeah, a new.

Laura (20:02)

A new show that's a spin off.

Rosenberg (20:04)

A spin off of Handmaid's Tale.

Laura (20:06)

Let me ask you. Have you haven't watched it?

Rosenberg (20:07)

Do you want.

Ebro Darden (20:09)

Depends.

Rosenberg (20:10)

I'm here for. I'm gonna watch.

Ebro Darden (20:11)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (20:12)

Like do I need it? My life, you're saying?

Laura (20:13)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (20:14)

I don't know where it's going. I. It looks like.

Laura (20:16)

Could it go. Cuz I never finished handmade.

Rosenberg (20:18)

It looks like it's the daughter.

Ebro Darden (20:20)

I was gonna say it's homegirl in it.

Rosenberg (20:22)

Who's homegirl?

Ebro Darden (20:22)

Mean girl.

Rosenberg (20:23)

Elizabeth Moss.

Ebro Darden (20:24)

Yes.

Rosenberg (20:25)

This is why we. She's a Scientologist.

Ebro Darden (20:27)

Yes. Which makes it crazy. Yeah.

Rosenberg (20:29)

Elizabeth Moss is a Scientology.

Ebro Darden (20:30)

Yeah.

Laura (20:30)

What makes you sure?

Ebro Darden (20:31)

I think. Let me see me Google it.

Laura (20:32)

Oh, God.

Ebro Darden (20:35)

What's her name? Elizabeth.

Laura (20:36)

But why would it matter if she's Scientology?

Rosenberg (20:37)

Because that means she's in a cult and that the show's about a cult. That's what that. I'm interpreting what Laura would be saying.

Laura (20:45)

All right, well, she. I know that, that.

Ebro Darden (20:47)

Ah, yes, I'm right. Elizabeth Moss is a practicing member of the Church of Scientology and has been raised with the faith.

Laura (20:53)

Oh, she's been raised in it.

Ebro Darden (20:54)

Yep.

Rosenberg (20:56)

But that doesn't mean you're. But you're being very judgmental. You don't know exactly what that means.

Ebro Darden (20:59)

You know what it is? Is because I grew up around the Church of Scientology, I saw what it did to people. One of my friends in high school, valedictorian, the star of the play, one year in 11th grade was like, hey, I'm selling all my clothes. We're having a huge garage sale. Sold all their furniture and just. We're dedicating our lives to the church. And I was like, what church? Scientology. Fast forward. I run into her because I grew up in LA and there was a lot of Church of Scientology establishments everywhere. I ran into her and I'm like, so what is your life? What are you doing? She's like, we clean the signs. That's all she does.

Laura (21:37)

So. Look, I stopped judging religions a long time ago, but I just want to say I. You know, I'm not here to judge why people do and follow the things they follow if it brings them fulfillment. Okay. What I am here to do is if you're. If your religion is not bombing and killing people, I'm fine with you.

Rosenberg (21:56)

Which is a good point, because it's. Because Scientology, as far as we know, it may be the only one that I can't say I know for a fact they've killed people. Like, they're out here bombing people now.

Laura (22:06)

There is some scandals.

Rosenberg (22:07)

Like, they have scandals, but not like Christianity, Judaism and Islam, Catholicism. The big dogs are out here killing.

Laura (22:13)

I mean, but you feel what I'm saying?

Rosenberg (22:15)

In the name of the religion.

Ebro Darden (22:16)

There's definitely scandals. Like.

Laura (22:17)

No, no, no, listen. Somebody who's. What's the Elrond. Whoever they're wrote the book. It's all weird. But so is the gold plates that the Mormons found by a tree in upstate New York with John Smith or whatever his name was. You don't know the whole story. The whole Mormon religion was like, yeah, not cool, Moses, but I found some gold plates by a tree, upstate New York. And now we're. We're on something like that.

Ebro Darden (22:40)

Okay, but.

Laura (22:41)

But once again, that's their thing, and it keeps them on a path of, you know, whatever. They're not dropping bombs. They're not decimating southern Lebanon in the name of a faith.

Ebro Darden (22:53)

True.

Laura (22:54)

Or tie. Or trying to tie some, like, government to a religion to justify expanding their borders and land and stealing land from people.

Rosenberg (23:03)

So Ebro's point. It is interesting because Scientology definitely has its weirdness. But when you take a step and think about how weird our accepted religions are.

Laura (23:15)

Well, weird is a good word. I would say savage. I would say corrupt. I would say all those things.

Rosenberg (23:21)

Yeah. A blind eye to a lot of it because they're the accepted norm religion.

Ebro Darden (23:25)

Oh, yes, yes, you're right.

Rosenberg (23:27)

The big three out here wild, yo.

Laura (23:28)

There's a. There is a religion, a sect of Christianity right now spending billions to try to bring back the rapture. And no. And everybody just like, oh, but Scientology, because they get sold all their furniture to clean signs. Weird.

Ebro Darden (23:46)

No, but there's. There's more.

Laura (23:48)

I know. And it's definitely like, I hear the Scientology scandals.

Rosenberg (23:51)

Crazy. Elizabeth Moss is a dedicated second generation Scientologist, as you said. Rarely discusses it in public, but has defended her faith, describing it as open and welcoming rather than cagey or secretive. But she is very open about being a Scientologist. In 2017, she defended her faith on Instagram, responding to a fan by stating that religious freedom, tolerance and understanding and truth are important to her and that the church is misunderstood. She also said in a 2022 interview with the New Yorker that Scientology is a place that is very open to, like, welcoming in somebody who wants to learn more about it. So that is interesting. I did not realize that they do recruit heavy, but like, Elizabeth Moss lives on the Upper west side.

Laura (24:31)

Are they going door to do.

Ebro Darden (24:33)

Yes, basically.

Laura (24:34)

Big door to door.

Ebro Darden (24:34)

Yes. They try to like, lure you in. Yes. They try to lure you in to sell you a book and they.

Laura (24:39)

Well, no, when you walk by, there's definitely the person outside. But I've never had it. Back in the day when I had a front door, because I don't have a front door. I haven't had a front door in 20 something years. Back in the day when I had a front door, it was Jehovah's Witnesses and Mormons at my.

Ebro Darden (24:53)

Right, right, right, right.

Laura (24:54)

I've never had a Scientologist knock on the door.

Rosenberg (24:57)

It's a missionary. It's a missionary religion.

Ebro Darden (24:59)

It was. It was a lot of that.

Rosenberg (25:00)

But I don't. But here's the thing. Here's the funny thing. So we are apt to laugh at the missionary religions that are out there to get other people. Meanwhile, my religion, we don't do that because we're so big on. We're the chosen. That's turned out great.

Ebro Darden (25:12)

Right, right, right.

Rosenberg (25:13)

That's really. That literally, that language is part of why everything has gone wrong for us since the beginning of time. And meanwhile, we're full of it. Because you can convert.

Laura (25:24)

Anybody can convert to,

Rosenberg (25:27)

as we've seen. So it's like the missionary part. Yeah, like, oh, missionary religion. You go out, you need people to join. But we accept people joining. And why do we think we're better than anyone else?

Ebro Darden (25:37)

I was having this conversation with a friend of mine who is just like, very ignorant to Islam. Right. So we were discussing certain things, like. Yeah, but, you know, I think women are so oppressed, like, why they have to hide their faces and this and that. I was like, well, not everybody has to do that. You should look into it. And then she said some ignorant, negative things. I was like, honey, I was like, when you think of children being abused, what religion is the one that comes to mind? Yours. You're a Catholic, right? And she was like, I didn't think about it like that. I'm like, well, thank you.

Laura (26:10)

A lot of people just need to spend time looking at them.

Rosenberg (26:12)

And would you want people to completely, like, describe Catholicism as being about abusive children?

Ebro Darden (26:19)

Right, right, right.

Rosenberg (26:20)

That's the thing. We are all just so unbelievably judgmental about each other's religion. It's so crazy.

Laura (26:26)

Crazy. Well, no, and. But really, truthfully, we're not judgmental enough about ourselves. Yeah, well, like, we don't look in the mirror enough. We just don't. On. Think of every level. Every level. And most of the answer is, is because people know that they're full of. Oh, excuse my language stuff. They're full of crap.

Ebro Darden (26:44)

Anyway, I'm in. What's the name of it? It's the name of the show I'm in.

Rosenberg (26:47)

It's. But it's about what's your face, Mother. What's the lady's name?

Ebro Darden (26:51)

Which one?

Rosenberg (26:52)

You know, the lady who teaches all the girls.

Ebro Darden (26:55)

Aunt Lydia.

Rosenberg (26:55)

Aunt Lydia.

Laura (26:56)

Ooh.

Ebro Darden (26:57)

Ooh, I love to hate her. Yes.

Rosenberg (27:00)

Handmaid's Tale sequel is coming to tv. Here's what you need to know from the New York Times. The Testaments focuses on a younger generation coming of age inside Gilead, the religious regime first imagined in the 1985 dystopian thriller. I didn't know it's from 1985 that they wrote that. Wow. It's. It's all really started to make more sense. So. Yeah, it's. It's the next generation. It sounds like.

Laura (27:27)

Wow.

Ebro Darden (27:27)

Okay.

Rosenberg (27:28)

The TV version, Testaments was developed by.

Laura (27:30)

All right, cool. All right, check it out on Hulu. I've been patient enough these first 26 minutes of the program. Laura, you ready for the rundown?

Ebro Darden (27:37)

Yes. Let's go.

Laura (27:38)

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Rosenberg (28:01)

My gummies are here, by the way. I pop them right before the show.

Ebro Darden (28:04)

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Laura (28:23)

No, no, no. It's essential. But here's the key, guys. You have to lock in.

Ebro Darden (28:28)

Yeah.

Laura (28:29)

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Rosenberg (28:29)

Yeah.

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Rosenberg (28:44)

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Laura (28:55)

Rosenberg, have you seen a difference?

Rosenberg (28:57)

Yeah, I mean, this isn't my first journey with probiotics, but absolutely it makes a difference. The sort of consistency you start to develop.

Laura (29:04)

That's right.

Rosenberg (29:04)

You know, if you're someone who's kind of uneven, it'll just give you a little bit of rhythm.

Laura (29:08)

Yeah, you need that rhythm.

Rosenberg (29:09)

You need that rhythm.

Laura (29:10)

So. Because if you watch this program at 9:05 every day, where do I go?

Rosenberg (29:17)

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Laura (29:18)

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Rosenberg (29:21)

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Laura (29:26)

There it is. Now let's get to the rundown. Bow. Bobby's on glow when she pull up headlines heavy, but we still caught up. Still flashing.

Rosenberg (29:37)

We don't slow up now.

Ebro Darden (29:38)

We didn't get to this yesterday, but I just want to celebrate. Cardi B. Here is a video of our sold out show in Philly. And she brings out Meek Mill.

Laura (30:26)

Like a last minute thing. Just found whatever version they had, man. WI fi was bad in there. Couldn't download it.

Ebro Darden (30:38)

It's like walking behind her.

Rosenberg (30:44)

It's insane. It is. Cardi's ass is like as if Dolly Parton career we spent. But she walked right topless. It's just out. Like her ass is just out.

Laura (30:58)

No, it's not ass covered. It's highlighted though. She got some framing. It's got a frame on it.

Rosenberg (31:03)

I mean, it's out. I see her entire ass.

Laura (31:05)

No, but she had leggings on.

Rosenberg (31:07)

Those were leggings.

Ebro Darden (31:08)

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Laura (31:09)

Those are colored leggings.

Ebro Darden (31:10)

Yeah, she had tights on.

Rosenberg (31:11)

Sorry.

Laura (31:12)

I think it was light though. And it had. It looked like an ass out chat because it had the thing around it. I don't think that was a bare ass.

Rosenberg (31:18)

If one day one of your kids said, this is of outfit I'm gonna wear outside. I mean, let me see.

Laura (31:23)

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe. Maybe it. Is it a bare ass?

Rosenberg (31:26)

I think it's.

Ebro Darden (31:27)

Usually they wear tights, but.

Rosenberg (31:29)

But she has different. She has different looks throughout the whole show.

Laura (31:32)

Yeah, it was leggings.

Rosenberg (31:34)

I'm. And I'm not even saying a bad way. I'm just saying it's in an insane way. It's just. It's.

Laura (31:38)

How old's my child when this happened?

Rosenberg (31:40)

Huh?

Laura (31:40)

How old? You said when my child says they want to wear this outfit, 20. 20. Do I. Am I paying rent? Are they still living with me?

Rosenberg (31:47)

Is there any world in which you go, yay?

Laura (31:50)

There's no world where I go, yay. But I'm like, yo, if that's what

Rosenberg (31:52)

you're doing, that's what you're doing. That's what you do. I was watching. We watched some old Carti videos this week because Natalie loves Carti. As you know. It's. It's so funny seeing old carti versus new cardi. Like, I almost forgot, old carti 2017. The bodak yellow Cardi. Yo. Teeth hadn't been fixed yet. Boobs and not. She's not the same person. It's crazy.

Laura (32:17)

Well, and also, she before kids. She's got three. What? Three kids?

Rosenberg (32:21)

Yeah, yeah. And you know, she of course had that four. Excuse me, she had the fourth.

Ebro Darden (32:25)

Yeah, yeah, that's four.

Rosenberg (32:28)

The most recent one, the non offset one is, you know, it's crazy that she has. I wonder how the dealing with Stefan Diggs thing goes.

Ebro Darden (32:37)

And the baby with Stefan Diggs.

Rosenberg (32:39)

There you go. I was like, where's random?

Ebro Darden (32:41)

I know she's probably like, I'm gonna take care of my baby, but he

Rosenberg (32:45)

has so many like. And also, like, what kind of. Who knows? I don't know.

Ebro Darden (32:49)

She's just probably gonna be the main one. You know what I mean? It's like, you see your baby wing when you can.

Rosenberg (32:53)

Stefan's got, you know, he popped off last year, bro.

Ebro Darden (32:56)

How many kids?

Rosenberg (32:57)

I think 4 and 4 and like a year.

Laura (32:59)

And the real question here, and this is for everybody who's like, yeah, but you know, your kids. I don't understand how you see all of these kids. You don't on A consistent basis.

Ebro Darden (33:12)

No, you don't.

Rosenberg (33:13)

You mean if you're someone who has four kids with four in different places. It's insane. It's. There's.

Laura (33:18)

I mean, look, there's a world where for a long period of time, they could be. I can take them. And by long, I mean like a week. Because then what's the support system now? Like, is it my mom, you know, my aunts and whatever. Nannies on this end?

Ebro Darden (33:32)

Right.

Laura (33:32)

Like, how do you. It's a lot to schedule.

Ebro Darden (33:35)

Yeah.

Laura (33:35)

And I'm only saying this for anybody out there that thinks you want to have a bunch of kids with different people. It's tough to find a schedule with one mom in the same house. Astrasan, bruh. But if you got multiple kids at different locations.

Ebro Darden (33:50)

Yeah, that's different.

Laura (33:51)

Or across the country.

Rosenberg (33:53)

Yo, I had a day yesterday where I just had a lot of things to do. So I ran home after here. Cause we do stuff after the show every day. We have things to do. And I was like, I'm only gonna get her at bedtime. So I ran home just to catch like 10 minutes with her before I hit the nanny. Was like, can you keep her up for Just till I get home? Just So I get 10 minutes with her during the day. So the only time I see her is not good night. I don't understand how you can just get comfortable with. And yes, I'm passing judgment. How do you just get comfortable being like, imma see you when I see you. It's so crazy when they're little and it goes so fast.

Laura (34:31)

I. I have no idea what are you doing?

Ebro Darden (34:33)

Right, right. Okay. In other news, 50 Cent docu series is coming to Hulu.

Rosenberg (34:38)

Okay, tell me about this docu series.

Ebro Darden (34:39)

So it's a three part docu series. It's gonna take. It's gonna basically trace his evolution from a young Curtis to present day.

Laura (34:46)

So he's doing a documentary on himself pretty much as.

Rosenberg (34:49)

Produced by him.

Ebro Darden (34:50)

Yes. G Unit Films.

Laura (34:53)

So this isn't the one that T.I. said he was making.

Ebro Darden (34:55)

No, it's not.

Laura (34:56)

And this isn't the one that he said he was making about T. I know.

Ebro Darden (34:59)

This is about himself. So that's coming.

Laura (35:02)

So is he trying to mom spaghetti this situation?

Rosenberg (35:04)

Funny you say that, because I was gonna say, you know what he should do? He should do an Eminem one has there. They did that. Stan's doc. I'm surprised 50 didn't try to produce like a documentary of Eminem's life though, because Eminem's actual Life. Not the one that he said on record and not the 1 in 8 mile, which is a great Disney version of it, would be very interesting.

Laura (35:23)

Why do you say 8 miles Disney?

Rosenberg (35:24)

I mean, I love. Listen, I love 8 mile. It grew on me as the years go on. It's one of those movies that when it's on tv, you're like, I. Let's just wait and see the next battle. You know what I mean? It's a great movie.

Ebro Darden (35:33)

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Rosenberg (35:34)

Even though the Brittany Murphy thing makes me really sad, it makes it hard to watch the movie for me now, but, you know, it's just the movie is lined up to make it a superhero movie. So it moves very quickly. I don't think the cheddarbob situation is.

Laura (35:49)

Was that you don't think somebody Cheddar Bob themselves.

Rosenberg (35:51)

I don't know if someone Cheddar Bob themselves. So it just seems like an opportunity, though, for 50, I could see because they've seemed to have always been really good.

Ebro Darden (35:58)

Always. I mean, he. Remember when his daughter got married, he was at the wedding.

Rosenberg (36:03)

Yeah. He was like, the only.

Ebro Darden (36:04)

Yes.

Rosenberg (36:04)

I think Dre might have been there too.

Ebro Darden (36:06)

Not many people, but he was at that wedding. He was like, oh, my God, I'm old.

Rosenberg (36:09)

I can't talk about Eminem now without thinking about how the Griselda guys call him Marshall.

Laura (36:15)

Marshall with their accent, right?

Rosenberg (36:17)

Yo, when we sign with Marshall, it's Marshall Marshall. That Buffalo accent is different.

Ebro Darden (36:24)

Also, Colin Kaepernick is publishing a memoir. It's called Perilous Fight. It's offering a deeper look into the journey behind the headlines. Now, this is releasing September 15th, but you could pre order it now.

Rosenberg (36:38)

You can order up for Kindle, you can order the audiobook, and you can order the hardcover from whatever your thing is. But it's in the. It's in his profile on. On X, where I saw the link. Super psyched for this.

Laura (36:51)

I'm looking for a tweet that he put up yesterday. Was it yesterday?

Rosenberg (36:56)

Which one? The one about the book.

Laura (36:58)

The one about the book, yeah. Because I feel like, you know,

Rosenberg (37:02)

I

Laura (37:03)

feel like it's important context because he talks about, you know, other people have been able to tell my story. Now it's my turn. You know what I mean? Like, it's very much like. And I can't find the tweet. Sorry.

Rosenberg (37:15)

Are we gonna get him on the program? Is the question.

Laura (37:18)

Is he gonna. Well, you think he will do interviews?

Rosenberg (37:20)

I think we gonna do this one. I really do. I firmly believe that. Yeah.

Laura (37:25)

You firmly believe it.

Rosenberg (37:26)

I really think he'd say yes. I think he would. I think he'd be trusting. And you got to promote a book like, that's, that's the thing about having a book like.

Laura (37:33)

Well, that's why.

Rosenberg (37:34)

Very hard to not go outside.

Laura (37:35)

Is he doing interviews? Because he's never really done a lot of interviews.

Ebro Darden (37:38)

I think that's the whole reason and excitement for this book, because he hasn't.

Rosenberg (37:42)

But I think, I think you're still going to choose. This is a good time. We should just reach out. But it's. It's a good time to pick and choose the ones that. The places that make sense. I would love to have a public conversation with him. Obviously, we all see him in private life, but it'll be great to have like a talk.

Laura (37:58)

He said, quote, what would you sacrifice for what you believe in? I gave up everything and I do it again. The Perilous Fight is the full story. The becoming the movement and what's still left to fight for. The world has been telling my story for 10 years. It's my turn. Perilous fight September 15, 2026. Order now. Link in caps bio.

Rosenberg (38:23)

All right, I'm gonna send you something, Bascom. Now. Listen, I'm very excited to. To hear what he has to say in this book. There are. Just listen. Sacrifice. There are different versions of sacrifice. His level of commitment, that level of sacrifice, it's kind of unimaginable to the average person, you know, and the one thing I've always been curious about was does he feel that it's been worth it? You know, like, do you feel that? Obviously, like, to me, he is a modern day American hero. Like, there aren't heroes. You don't meet heroes that often. He's a real life hero. But was it worth it on a personal level to sacrifice what he sacrificed? He worked so hard to get there, made it to a Super Bowl. I know they would not let this man play football again.

Laura (39:17)

Well, and I think people forget that the Niners were super supportive of him kneeling.

Rosenberg (39:22)

Yes.

Laura (39:23)

Like, that's kind of always left out of the narrative. Right. Like, it wasn't as if the team he was on was angry with him. No. For kneeling.

Rosenberg (39:32)

No. But he was coming to an end of the road.

Laura (39:34)

The contract was coming to an end. And that was what it was. But they weren't. It wasn't like he was off the Niners because he was kneeling.

Ebro Darden (39:42)

People forget that all the time. They also forget that he consulted with a veteran on what was the most proper Way to protest. Remember that?

Rosenberg (39:50)

The kneel. One of the craziest things. And again, this goes right back to Ebro. What are we doing? Why are we discussing this? We know what it's about, and we do. Racists don't want people standing up for black people in America. But the kneel was done so respectfully. Like, if he just went and sat on the bench with a towel on

Laura (40:10)

his head, which has happened, which we've

Rosenberg (40:12)

seen people do for different reasons, sometimes just pouting because they're in a bad mood.

Ebro Darden (40:15)

Right.

Laura (40:15)

Or just not participating at all.

Rosenberg (40:17)

Yeah. That to me is like, you know, I'm not saying you don't have the right to do it, but it's disrespectful. It's like, no, I don't even give a damn. To go kneel is so clearly to recognize the anthem is happening.

Laura (40:29)

That's right.

Rosenberg (40:30)

This moment is occurring.

Laura (40:31)

I'm present.

Rosenberg (40:32)

I'm present, but I'm not happy with how the country. The country isn't living up to the piece of paper. And I'm going to kneel and be at half mass, sort of until things get right.

Laura (40:43)

Tim Tebow knelt during the anthem.

Rosenberg (40:46)

Was it during the anthem that he knelt?

Laura (40:47)

Yeah, I thought it was first. It was so he could pray.

Rosenberg (40:51)

He was praying during the anthem? Is that what it was? I forgot. Yeah, you're right. You're right. Here. This is a nice picture. At Selassie's birthday, I said, Natalie was like, should we get a picture with Colin and the baby? And I was like, he's definitely not gonna care. Sure. And I just was like.

Laura (41:10)

I Literally the words I said.

Rosenberg (41:12)

I was like, maya, this is an American hero. And I just handed her off. And he is. He's a real. No matter how often I see him, I. I always am struck by, wow, a hero among us. You gave up everything, bro.

Laura (41:23)

Yeah. Take a stand. That's what it's all about. And. And, you know, I. I still firmly believe the Afro to sent them crackers. Oh, bad play.

Ebro Darden (41:32)

Absolutely.

Laura (41:32)

The Afro sends crackers into a bad space, bro. I don't know what it is the symbol of power, the way the hair stands up by itself.

Rosenberg (41:44)

You're not break. You're br. Breaking the rules. We said the whites, if you want to participate in society, cut that. Cut it, straighten it. Use whatever painful measures you have to. To have hair that fits in. So when you just have a big fro, it's like, oh, he wants to. You want to show us something?

Laura (42:02)

Huh?

Ebro Darden (42:03)

Showing off. That's Right.

Rosenberg (42:04)

Cracker.

Laura (42:06)

God. Hate that.

Rosenberg (42:07)

But I swear to God, it sends people the natural hair.

Laura (42:12)

Gosh.

Rosenberg (42:12)

What is it, bro? Woman with natural hair. Hate it. Man with natural. They get mad at all.

Ebro Darden (42:17)

Yeah. It's just deep rooted racism.

Rosenberg (42:19)

Racist. Like if you're.

Laura (42:20)

But think about. I'm stuck on it. Because when you stop and you're like, yo, the Afro, really, it's more than I think of black. The fist. Like, the fist is like, all right. The fro, though, I don't know what it is.

Ebro Darden (42:37)

It's like, how dare you be proud.

Rosenberg (42:39)

No, how dare you not confront.

Ebro Darden (42:41)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (42:41)

To what we're saying is the standard we set. The standard of beauty. It's blonde, it's straight. It's not that it sends. It's if you're. It's a great little racist. Tell you know what I'm saying, Like, why does that bother you? I will say this, though. I did think about this and it

Laura (42:58)

was on the sideline and I remember, yo. And by the way, there was mad black athletes in. In throughout the 70s. They wore their fro like. Remember those old films where they would see like the black and they take their helmet off and the fro would be like.

Rosenberg (43:11)

Yeah, but I mean, they weren't.

Laura (43:13)

They weren't kneeling.

Rosenberg (43:14)

They weren't kneeling. They weren't saying.

Laura (43:15)

They weren't. They weren't saying anything.

Rosenberg (43:17)

They weren't saying, I don't like that government officials kill black people with no consequences.

Laura (43:23)

That's right.

Rosenberg (43:23)

And Colin had the audacity, the unmitigated goal. I will say this, though. I wonder after seeing him last time, between how tall he is.

Ebro Darden (43:32)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (43:33)

And how much he looks like Colin Kaepernick. I do ever wonder, is he like this fro, though, is. He's so committed to it now. You see him.

Laura (43:41)

I'm sure he still rocks. Braids sometimes.

Rosenberg (43:43)

Yeah. He has put him down sometimes.

Ebro Darden (43:45)

Right.

Rosenberg (43:45)

Because just from a recognized. I'm talking about from a recognition standpoint.

Ebro Darden (43:47)

Oh, if he wants to lay low.

Rosenberg (43:48)

If he wants to lay low.

Ebro Darden (43:49)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (43:50)

You. If you were to see that man from 100 yards away and you were cracking jokes that I met for looks who think he is Colin Kaepernick. That is Colin.

Laura (43:58)

And as much as I talk to him, I've never asked him either questions. And I've never, like, dude, like, I did ask him once. I feel like I did ask him, like, do people just want to debate you about.

Ebro Darden (44:10)

Right.

Laura (44:10)

Your decision? Like, does that ever happen? I feel like. I feel like he was like, you

Rosenberg (44:13)

remember the Story with me. You remember the story when I went out with him years ago?

Ebro Darden (44:16)

No.

Rosenberg (44:16)

Great. This is crazy. My ex wife and I went on a double date with Vanessa and Colin to go see a movie. I don't remember what we saw in Manhattan. And we, it was, it was prime time. Prime time. Everything going on 16, 17, whatever. And we were sitting in the seats and during the trailers, some kid, like a young teenager came up and held up his phone and played the national anthem.

Laura (44:50)

Wow.

Rosenberg (44:51)

I don't even remember standing next to Kyle.

Laura (44:52)

What?

Rosenberg (44:53)

Yep.

Ebro Darden (44:57)

I don't even. This is the first time you tell this story.

Rosenberg (44:59)

And we just sat. Yeah. Colin, he was just like. We were all just like.

Laura (45:02)

All right, bro.

Rosenberg (45:03)

I don't know why you're doing this, loser, but yeah, crazy. So your point? I think, yes. People do things like that.

Ebro Darden (45:11)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (45:11)

Congratulations.

Ebro Darden (45:13)

And I know he's going to talk about Eric Reed also, because I feel like people forget that Eric Reed held

Laura (45:17)

him down right next to him.

Ebro Darden (45:18)

Right next to him. He took a lot of heat also. He had to go through a lot.

Laura (45:22)

Eric ended up getting another gig and playing again for a couple of years, didn't he? A couple of seasons.

Rosenberg (45:27)

Yeah. Yeah, he did. He did. I'm very curious to hear about which players he kept relationships with. You know, who he felt like really held it down for him. Who he didn't. I know Rodgers. Say what you want about Aaron Rodgers. He was always very outspoken. Another northern California guy, always very outspoken in showing love for Colin.

Laura (45:43)

But it was weird how it was also thinking back too, man. You had the President of the United States telling owners of football teams to fire a guy if they.

Rosenberg (45:52)

And they called him son. Son of a. Yeah. Called them sons of or something.

Laura (45:57)

Which now we've seen the president tweet that he wants to decimate whole civilization.

Rosenberg (46:02)

So an said, effing bastards.

Laura (46:04)

Effing bastards.

Rosenberg (46:05)

He's ratcheted things up a notch.

Laura (46:06)

You know what I mean? But you done with the rundown?

Ebro Darden (46:09)

I am. Yes. Yes, that was the rundown.

Laura (46:14)

Hey. Oh,

Rosenberg (46:21)

You have any apologies today?

Laura (46:22)

No, no apologies today. As far as apologies go on the program, who you think's got the most?

Rosenberg (46:28)

You know, I'm, you know, I'm apology king.

Laura (46:30)

I got a few, though.

Rosenberg (46:31)

You have a. I got a couple.

Laura (46:33)

Right.

Rosenberg (46:34)

Yeah, but I, I, I put my.

Ebro Darden (46:35)

Peter. Peter.

Rosenberg (46:36)

I put my foot in my mouth more, so.

Laura (46:38)

Well, you do more talking.

Rosenberg (46:40)

That's not true.

Laura (46:41)

You put up more shots.

Rosenberg (46:43)

I don't think I do. It just means I say dumber things.

Laura (46:46)

Nah, you put up more shots in terms of what?

Rosenberg (46:47)

Giving. Take. Like, take.

Laura (46:49)

Yeah, you're putting up shots all the time. You're feeling. You're just. You're putting it up, you know? I mean, give me the ball. I'll shoot it.

Rosenberg (46:54)

Give me the ball. I used to. I used to shoot. I used to say way more that could get me into. Yeah, my apologies are down. The last few years. No, yeah, I'm pretty. I'm mad to apologize for Robin Thicke. When I talk crazy about Paula Pat. Apologize to public, to Chuck. Dude, apologize to Nicki Minaj. Just sat there and got just. I mean, yeah, Ebro had me out there looking like Mike Tyson standing next to Robin Givens on.

Laura (47:21)

That was original Algo Hustle time. You know what I'm saying? That Algo Hustle was crazy.

Rosenberg (47:25)

Crazy.

Ebro Darden (47:25)

I only had one, and I apologized privately.

Laura (47:29)

Who was yours?

Ebro Darden (47:30)

Wale.

Laura (47:31)

Did you do the Wale?

Ebro Darden (47:32)

I just reported on something that he wasn't ready to talk about.

Rosenberg (47:35)

Oh, man.

Laura (47:35)

And it wasn't public info.

Ebro Darden (47:37)

I mean, yes, it was public info. And I told him it was public info. I was like, dude, I'm sorry. I didn't think it was gonna, you know, because of the circumstances. I understood. And I hate Joe. I was like, yo, let me get his number. I felt so bad. And I sent him a text, and he was really nice. He's like, I appreciate you reaching out. He was nice.

Rosenberg (47:54)

Yeah.

Laura (47:54)

Yeah.

Ebro Darden (47:54)

I was like, I just.

Rosenberg (47:55)

I didn't remember that Laura apology.

Laura (47:57)

You don't.

Rosenberg (47:57)

You don't remember those moments. Yeah, you don't get those every day. But no, the Nicki Minaj one. I not only apologized, I sat there. In retrospect, I was Mike Tyson. She was Robin Givens. Remember the interview? Robin Givens, like, it's hell. He's a monster. Every day is worse than the day before. And Mike's just sitting there like, that was me in the Nicki interview. I was like, she's like, you're talentless. You're a loser. You're a racist. I was like, you're right.

Ebro Darden (48:25)

Yeah.

Laura (48:26)

Did she say racist?

Rosenberg (48:29)

She implied that it was racial and gender based. And I was like, mm, yes,

Ebro Darden (48:37)

I'm sorry.

Rosenberg (48:38)

Well, and by the way, I could get into a conversation where all of those things are factors because we live in America and I am a white man. So anything that I say those things, I could have an intellectual discussion about how those things are inherently baked in. But this was more just, you know, she was just getting it off her chest.

Laura (48:55)

Yeah, why not?

Rosenberg (48:56)

Hey, hey, you know what?

Laura (48:57)

Listen, white guy, sit there and take it. You'll be all right. That's right.

Rosenberg (48:59)

Guess what?

Laura (49:00)

Historic history says you'll be okay. And by the way, since then, things have been okay.

Rosenberg (49:04)

No things.

Laura (49:05)

I didn't stop any bags.

Rosenberg (49:07)

No. No. In fact, I was hotter than ever. If I have any. If I have any regrets, I stuck around too long. I was on fire for the next three years.

Laura (49:13)

Yeah, you could have bounced.

Rosenberg (49:15)

Could have bounced, right.

Laura (49:16)

But here you are, sticking around, waiting for them to let you go at the Hot 9.

Rosenberg (49:22)

It all worked out. It all worked out.

Laura (49:23)

Yo, we got to get to the gurus. I'm. Are we aware that this ceasefire thing is not a ceasefire?

Rosenberg (49:31)

It's like every other cease fire these days.

Laura (49:33)

Yo, yo. Yesterday, Israel dropped 100 bombs in 10 minutes on Beirut.

Rosenberg (49:42)

Well, the ceasefires with Iran.

Laura (49:45)

Well, and that's what they said. They said this has nothing to do with Iran.

Rosenberg (49:48)

Yeah. And we didn't agree to the cease fire.

Laura (49:50)

So the machine has ratcheted up on people. Now that this Iran thing is, wherever it is, covering the disaster. That's Lebanon, which is basically. They're trying to repeat Gaza all over again.

Rosenberg (50:02)

Yeah, that's the plan.

Laura (50:03)

They've killed. I believe the number is 80 something kids. Israel has wounded like 300 kids in Lebanon. In Lebanon. Southern Lebanon. They killed. Oh, here we go.

Ebro Darden (50:19)

There's Bernie.

Laura (50:20)

This is Bernie. But this was more about the total number of deaths. This was a few days ago. Israel now occupies 14% of Lebanon.

Rosenberg (50:33)

Yeah, it's just.

Laura (50:35)

It's crazy that people think this is just going to stand like that. A country just shows up bombs and no one's going to do anything. I mean, like this, this is.

Ebro Darden (50:45)

People watched Palestine just get decimated. So they're looking at this the same, like, oh, look, they're just doing it.

Laura (50:55)

What do you got there, Lou? And then Iran is considering firing back at Israel because they keep dropping bombs. All right, so Iran's basically like, oh, yeah, the ceasefires between us and the US assets in the Middle east, not with Israel. So let's get it cracking.

Rosenberg (51:10)

Why, why, why does Iran. This is a very basic question, but why does Iran want to attack Israel? Because they're attacking Lebanon, I think because

Laura (51:22)

they see Israel as a threat the same way Israel sees Iran as a threat.

Rosenberg (51:27)

Yeah. I mean, it doesn't.

Laura (51:29)

And so. And then also, I mean, I'm sure there's both sides, I'm sure, make their case for, like, what's right in the eyes of, you know, human natural law or Whatever religion. Right. Where Iran's basically like, you guys just can't keep attacking people like that's not a thing. Nor can you just keep thinking that because you're cool with the US that you get to treat everybody in the religion like you're where you're doormat.

Rosenberg (51:58)

And you mean like things like creating a law where you're allowed to give the death penalty to Palestinians but not to Israelis who commit the exact same crime.

Laura (52:07)

Right.

Rosenberg (52:07)

And then, and then to celebrate that law, you wear a golden noose on your lapel as if it's like a party.

Ebro Darden (52:18)

Yeah.

Laura (52:20)

So, yeah, I, I don't see over the next year, 5 and 10, if Israel doesn't chill or somebody doesn't put a leash on them where this is

Rosenberg (52:28)

good guys, me, I, I, and I just do not understand. And this is the part that will frustrate me to no end. I do not know how you could be a person who cares about your family in Israel, let's say, and think that this is good for their well being. I just, I can't understand it. How do you think this is gonna work out long term?

Ebro Darden (52:48)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (52:49)

How is this sustainable? They're gonna keep going and going. What happens if Trump one day, cuz he is erratic, goes, I'm done, we're good, we're done with Israel. We haven't seen Trump do that. Is Trump a loyal friend?

Laura (53:03)

No.

Rosenberg (53:04)

Is there a world in which Trump would turn on Netanyahu and start calling him a dog and saying, I'm done with him?

Laura (53:09)

The amount of money and Kushner being the handler prevents a little bit of what you're talking about.

Rosenberg (53:16)

You're probably right, but you don't know. And if that were to happen and is Israel were to be out there on its own without the United States constant backing, how is its long term survival? What are they gonna do? Start nuking everyone? And that's what Israel wants to be. Do you know, like how hurtful, like, it's just the idea that this is done in the name of Jews is like, it's just so hurtful and wrong. Like we've been, it's like they're terrorists who've taken over our.

Laura (53:42)

But it's what your dad had to deal with. Your dad is already dealt. I mean, he dealt with it, I think, before you. But I think there's a number of people who had, you know, been taught that this was a place, a safe place for Jews and etc. Etc. And they're just kind of like, I don't want this place, whatever this place, I mean, obviously my mom was that a long time ago, but I mean more recently now. Whereas, like this place doesn't represent what you said it was going to represent. It doesn't represent who I want to be associated with. It doesn't represent Jude. Like there's people who are just like, this is not fundamentally, this is just not what Judaism is.

Rosenberg (54:20)

No. Like you could say a lot of things about, about Jewish people, like arbiters of war, like agents of death who want to like, this just doesn't go with what our story is at all. This is crazy. And now we're all going to be facing and imagine what's going to happen in the U.S. if God forbid, this leads to terrorism on U.S. soil because of the things that Israel's doing.

Laura (54:45)

Well, but that's possible and that's why everybody's very, very afraid. And but once again, you'd have to, if that took place, would any of us be surprised? No, we'd be sad, we'd be angry, we'd all the things. Right. But there is a real possibility that individuals want that to happen. So that we pivot and attack.

Rosenberg (55:05)

Yes.

Laura (55:06)

And that in a terrorist attack on US soil causes citizens of the United States to go, well, now we're in it full, full boots on the ground, all the things, dump all the money in that we got.

Rosenberg (55:19)

Because that's how it works every time. Every time. 9, 11, October 7th, whatever the moment.

Laura (55:25)

And there's a piece of me that it may not work that way this time. What do you mean it may not work that way this time? The, the way people are like, very, very much like, yo, we have no business over there. Get out. The public wouldn't support, public would still

Rosenberg (55:42)

be like, it depends what, God forbid. We're talking about a horrible thing here.

Laura (55:46)

That's right.

Rosenberg (55:47)

It depends on what this terrible event were to be.

Laura (55:51)

Yo, the amount of people I see that are like, yo, I love the fact that Iran knows this is Donald Trump and Netanyahu and not the rest of us.

Rosenberg (56:00)

It seems like the rest of the

Laura (56:01)

world sees like, and people are like, this ain't what we want. This ain't what we voted for. And that even ties back to what we was talking about the other day. The amount of people, the Tucker Cross Carlson's and the people we don't trust or like being like, yo, no, absolutely not. No way. Not us. Don't want it. Not right. And publicly speaking out about it.

Rosenberg (56:23)

Yeah. Much more than in the past.

Laura (56:24)

Yes.

Rosenberg (56:25)

Because post 9, 11, the approval for everything was like, I think in the 90s, nobody care. No. It was a very small group of people who were fighting against violence to respond to 9, 11. Whereas now you're right. Many people are opposed to this. Yeah. So, you know, but listen, you got the extreme right in. In that just controls everything. Same thing in Israel right now.

Laura (56:49)

For now are still. Now we're going to get through this summer. We're going to get to November. The midterms are in effect. Do not fall for the banana in the tailpipe. They're going to start the machine up to where they're going to try to make the mom donnies and the AOCs and all of the, you know, there's going to be this fight between progressives and, you know, liberals and moderates and all the things. Stay focused.

Rosenberg (57:12)

Stay focused, people.

Laura (57:14)

Stay focused. Let's get to the gurus. Hey, yo.

Rosenberg (57:18)

It's time for the gurus. Rosenberg. Laura, you know, you are beautiful queen.

Laura (57:24)

Ebro.

Rosenberg (57:25)

Don't ever play yourself. You're not a guru.

Laura (57:27)

Nope. But I am. But I am, though.

Ebro Darden (57:31)

All right, original gurus. Gmail.com theoriginalgurusmail.com your destination for clarity, for the gurus unite. Ebro, burn the sage. Rosenberg. Who's out there? Who needs. Why are you rolling your eyes?

Rosenberg (57:50)

All right, I'm just checking the time on the clock because this is going to be quick.

Ebro Darden (57:53)

Okay.

Laura (57:54)

Needs to be break up with him.

Rosenberg (57:56)

The original gurus. Gmail.com. the original gurus. Gmail.Com.

Laura (58:01)

all right.

Rosenberg (58:01)

Warning to everyone who says I get loud sometimes. It may happen. Oh, I may be triggered.

Laura (58:09)

All right, let's hear it.

Rosenberg (58:10)

No, just because this is crazy time.

Ebro Darden (58:11)

Okay.

Rosenberg (58:12)

It's a follow up.

Laura (58:13)

Okay.

Rosenberg (58:14)

A couple of days ago, a follow up.

Laura (58:16)

Let's hear it.

Rosenberg (58:17)

I listened from the woman who didn't know how to. Who didn't know how to say to her man that she wants it more.

Ebro Darden (58:23)

Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.

Rosenberg (58:25)

Because it was two to three times a week and she wanted four to five times a week. Remember that, Ebro? Yep. I listened to your advice yesterday and I wanted to give you some more information. Ebro. You know, I was talking about smack em yakum.

Laura (58:40)

Okay. Laying them down. Smack em yakum.

Rosenberg (58:42)

We both initiate, and we both initiate grown people time.

Laura (58:45)

Okay.

Rosenberg (58:46)

Okay. No, I don't have worms. Never have, never will.

Laura (58:50)

I mean, have you been inspected?

Rosenberg (58:51)

We don't know parentheses. Laura. I didn't get the joke, but okay, lady, I didn't get it either, but people thought it was Fun. For those saying that he's tired of me. I don't know, maybe shared the chat or something. For those saying that he's tired of me. No, he's not. Trust me. The two to three times a week. This is the part that sent me. We both reach peak performance three to four times during each and every session. So being boring is not an issue. I think that going through the change that older women go through. My sex drive has just been turned up a little bit more and was looking for an easy way to bring it up. Lady, I'm going to be less nice than I was yesterday.

Laura (59:34)

Why are you mad at her?

Rosenberg (59:35)

Because. No, she's not being negative.

Laura (59:38)

She's lying.

Rosenberg (59:39)

Yes. And you're out. Let's Ebro. I'm gonna take you to face value.

Ebro Darden (59:44)

Yeah.

Rosenberg (59:45)

You are telling us that you have sex with your husband two to three times a week. And in that time, not only you who congratulations. There are women who can do this. It's not common. You are able to get it three to four times during one session. God bless you. Many women fighting their whole life to get one. You're getting three to four every time you have sex. God bless you.

Laura (60:06)

So your anger is tied to her greed.

Rosenberg (60:10)

You're also telling us your partner, the man is going three to four times in each session. There are adult film actors who need a bevy of smoothies and pills and coke and whatever to try to make it happen with strangers. With 26 year old prime of their life strangers. They're like, I can't keep going. Your man after 10 years. And in each session. Ebro three or four times. And I am taking this at face value and believing you and you're saying that's not enough.

Ebro Darden (60:48)

Girl, girl. You get a toy. Get a toy, get a toy, get a toy.

Rosenberg (60:53)

Leave this man alone. He's a hall of famer. He's a superhero. And you're like, I don't know how to bring it up. You shouldn't. Don't bring it up.

Laura (61:01)

I'm be honest.

Rosenberg (61:02)

You stop playing along.

Laura (61:03)

I stopped because I feel like she just wanted to brag about her sex life.

Rosenberg (61:07)

Right. And, and, and, and trigger you. Yeah.

Laura (61:10)

So she nailed it. She. Because. Because the response was the kicker. When she responded to brag about like how they're getting it two and four times every session. And all of this you just wanted to brag about your sex life. Yeah. Or you're completely lying. Like it's a complete fabrication.

Rosenberg (61:27)

Or it's like a little of both. Like you Know you want to have it even more. And now you're turning up the. I'm going to tell you right now, lady, I do not believe for one second that the man you are with comes to completion three to four times during every time you have said, I don't believe it. In fact, and if you believe it, he may be lying to you. Like, damn, Babe did it again.

Ebro Darden (61:52)

Whoo.

Rosenberg (61:53)

Man, this is unravel. Let's keep on going.

Laura (61:55)

So you're encouraging her to collect the remnants, send in samples so that we know that it was. I'm just kidding.

Rosenberg (62:02)

Why did he say that?

Ebro Darden (62:03)

Oh, God.

Rosenberg (62:04)

What's wrong with.

Laura (62:05)

How would you prove it otherwise?

Rosenberg (62:06)

You know you couldn't. It crossed my mind, what you're saying,

Laura (62:08)

but no, because he could lie straight up.

Rosenberg (62:10)

That's what I'm saying.

Laura (62:10)

Especially if she's not. Where'd you put that?

Rosenberg (62:12)

Yeah, because if he's just like, yeah, baby did it again. Woo. Keep on going. Three to four times.

Ebro Darden (62:19)

Yeah, that's it. Wrap it up. Get a toy. So say the guru.

Rosenberg (62:22)

Thank you. Hit the outro. What are you saying? And now the chat's mad at you too. No one believes you need more people. Three to four. So you're telling me you're getting off four, two, three times a week? Okay, 12 times a week ain't enough for you with your man?

Laura (62:34)

Yo, me, yo, my lady and I. Me and Jazz. Just the other night.

Rosenberg (62:39)

Where's this story going? Hold up, bro. Will you make us nervous?

Laura (62:42)

The other night, about to get it popping. Passed out, though. Nothing ever happened. Yeah, happens all the time.

Rosenberg (62:48)

Yeah, good idea, though.

Laura (62:50)

I almost overslept from that. Yes.

Rosenberg (62:56)

Wow.

Laura (62:58)

Just a thought of getting involved. Well, I woke up late, missed my alarm, was rushing in.

Rosenberg (63:03)

Also, do y' all have hobbies or a job? What? How do you find time in the. I need more. 20 times a week. Oh, man. God bless you, lady. God bless you.

Ebro Darden (63:13)

All right, guys.

Laura (63:14)

By the way, and that's a true story. Listen, that story, I slept through the alarm and Woke up at 7 and was like, yo, I, I. Yeah.

Rosenberg (63:21)

You were like, babe, last night was so crazy. I. I overslept. She's like, we didn't do anything.

Laura (63:24)

I was like, well, I thought about it.

Rosenberg (63:29)

This show's for adults, people.

Ebro Darden (63:31)

Oh, God. Hit the, like button. Subscribe, man. Hype us up.

Laura (63:35)

All the good things Friday. Tomorrow, man. Can't wait.

Rosenberg (63:38)

See, y'. All.

Laura (63:47)

Just don't call it a podcast.

Ebro Darden (63:57)

This is the powerful new single from Daughtry. It's called Antidote.

Laura (64:01)

I couldn't stop the rain when the hurricane was coming Couldn't keep the pace with a runaway train going off the track.

Rosenberg (64:15)

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