75.) Nuclear Threats + Family Matters (4/10/26)

Summary

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The Ebro, Laura, Rosenberg Show

Episode 75: Nuclear Threats + Family Matters

Date: April 10, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This episode blends the show's signature mix of cultural commentary and real talk, exploring two key realms: the discomfort surrounding escalating global nuclear tensions—specifically referencing a controversial Trump tweet threatening nuclear action—and the everyday dynamics of family life. With their hallmark humor, candor, and a touch of debate, Ebro, Laura, and Rosenberg dissect everything from political maneuvering and emotional patterns in families, to the nuanced ways partners communicate and the real challenges of parenting.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Nuclear Threats and the Stress of Uncertainty

• Addressing Trump's Controversial 'Nuke' Tweet

  • The hosts discuss their anxiety and stress after former President Trump’s inflammatory tweet about nuclear action against Iran.
  • Laura voices the fear ("I know he's insane, but it's a president." [02:12]), while Rosenberg questions if Trump's behavior is insanity or calculated strategy ("Or is it the art of the deal?" [02:21]).
  • Ebro highlights the financial motivations behind the chaos ("They make boatloads of money... Don Jr. and Eric... have made hundreds of millions of dollars." [02:35]).

• Emotional Toll and Coping Mechanisms

  • The conversation turns to how each host processes political chaos differently.
  • Laura and Ebro want to share and process feelings, while Rosenberg expresses resistance to repeatedly 'spiraling' about issues already deemed outrageous ("I struggle with the redundancy... where it just feels stuck. It makes me feel stuck." [06:46]).
  • Ebro notes that simply mentioning concerns isn't the same as spiraling ("Is bringing it up and being like, oh, man, is that spiraling? I think we're all under control." [06:30]).

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2. Family Dynamics and Communication Habits

• Interpersonal Pet Peeves in Group Chats

  • An extended and humorous debate revolves around Ebro’s frequent use of "yep" in the group chat, which his co-hosts interpret as dismissive.
  • Ebro acknowledges, "When you hit me with the 'yep,' it’s like, fail, I scooped you again." (05:00), while Laura suggests even a simple "I saw this" would improve the tone.

• Patterns, Boundaries, and Emotional Labor

  • Rosenberg admits to tuning out repeated conversations, both at work and at home, as a form of self-protection ("I can't allow you to continue to be on this roller coaster...That's my own energy protector thing." [14:38]).
  • The conversation exposes gender stereotypes around emotional labor, with Ebro pointing out, "Men default: cool, I hear you complaining, let me fix it. And they're like, I don't want you to fix it." [19:22]
  • Laura pushes back against generalizations: "You and Ebro always generalize like, you know, the wives... I'm not." (18:41).

• Household Annoyances

  • The hosts share relatable household gripes, like leaving banana peels or jackets around (12:15–13:33).
  • They highlight how small domestic habits can symbolize deeper communication struggles.

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3. Parenting and the Evolution of Family Life

• Kids' Peculiarities and Shared Joys

  • Laura shares her daughter's fascination with scary stories and Halloween, eliciting playful commentary from the group ("As someone who's obsessed with death, this fall, Kenza Lose is on prowl again...Sharks, Blood, Death." [26:36]).
  • The hosts humorously reflect on Disney Princess movies and their subtle (or not-so-subtle) messaging about femininity and beauty (e.g., the emphasis on Rapunzel’s blonde hair in "Tangled" [28:39]).

• Parenting Milestones

  • Candid discussions about children’s developmental stages—babyhood versus the chaos of raising boys—surface as contributors join the conversation ("Are you addicted to babies?" [34:37]; "With boys, you have to keep your head on a swivel…" [36:05]).
  • Ebro muses about having a second child and the pressure around gender reveals, expressing frustration at societal expectations ("Yo, I had a friend do that with me recently, it's like, you gotta have that son, though." [40:15]).

• The 'Value' of Gender in Parenting

  • The group critiques the obsession (notably among men) with having a boy ("You hear men obsessing over gender— I don't recall women doing the same." [40:08]).
  • Bascom, a contributor, opens up about his disappointment upon learning his fourth child would also be a boy, but acknowledges healthy family is what matters (41:07–41:38).
  • Discussion about problematic social tropes: "I resent all the people who are like, ha, you got a girl. Blah, blah, blah, you're in trouble talk. I resent it, bro." – Rosenberg (41:38).

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4. Forgiveness, Celebrity, and Cancel Culture

• Listener Email: The "Kanye Comeback" Debate
  • Stephanie, a listener, challenges the panel for being too forgiving of Kanye West's past harmful behavior (44:33–45:11).
  • Ebro and Rosenberg defend their positions, distinguishing between public attachment to Kanye as an artist versus other media figures (e.g., Nick Cannon) and differentiating between understanding, forgiveness, and endorsement (46:13–47:22).
  • The panel highlights how different groups are affected by and respond to Kanye’s various offensive statements.

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5. Listener Interactions: Advice & Reflection

• Marriage Advice

  • Marilyn, another listener, asks Rosenberg for tips on managing wedding day nerves. He advises: "Enjoy it. Soak it up. Do whatever makes you feel good... it's the best day of your life." (54:03–54:43)
  • The hosts discuss traditions—like whether to stay together the night before—and stress the day should be personal, not bound by social convention.

• Open Relationships & Relationship Advice

  • A voice note from Jay from Jers provides blunt feedback to a previous listener’s question about swinging and the potential fallout when opening a long-term monogamous relationship (63:58–65:40).
  • Jay warns: “When you're with somebody for as long as you've been, and you've only been with that person ever in life, when you open the door... and invite other people in... that's where you fail.” [63:58]
  • The hosts reflect on common misconceptions about sex, love, and fulfillment, emphasizing that losing perspective on core family values for fleeting pleasure often leads to regret.

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6. Pop Culture and Movie Award Musings

• Oscars and Best Picture Debate
  • The hosts analyze why certain films win (or don’t win) at the Oscars, dissecting the difference between Best Picture and other awards ("Best picture is more album of the year..." [58:02]), and sharing personal favorites and gripes with specific scenes and story choices.
  • Rosenberg: "Sinners is so unique, so layered, purposeful... It's so many things and it's well shot..." [61:10]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Political Stress:

  • "I know he's insane, but it's a president." – Laura [02:12]
  • "Just keep reminding yourself, the point of this whole thing is to keep us all spiraling, not knowing which way is up, not knowing what's real, all while they make boatloads of money." – Rosenberg [02:34]

• On Family Patterns:

  • "When you hit me with the 'yep,' it’s like, fail, I scooped you again." – Ebro [05:00]
  • "I can't allow you to continue to be on this roller coaster... That's my own, like, boundary protection thing." – Rosenberg [14:38]

• On Gender Roles and Relationships:

  • "We tend to go, cool, I hear you complaining, let me fix it. And they're like, I don't want you to fix it." – Ebro [19:22]
  • "No, I'm just saying -- it's happened both ways. That's what I'm trying to say." – Laura [21:13]

• On Parenting:

  • "Daughters seem amazing, and I'm gonna be an old dad, so the more sweet, you know, girls on deck who are thoughtful, want to take care of their daddy when he gets older, the better." – Ebro [36:30]

• On Cancel Culture & Artist Loyalty:

  • "The forgiveness level—the way people are connected to Kanye’s music as one of the greatest artists of all time—is different..." – Ebro [46:46]
  • "I don't think I've forgiven Kanye as much as I've... I was making an excuse for people not really understanding the difference between yes, Kanye said bad things and...genocide." – Rosenberg [46:52–47:22]

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Timestamps – Important Segments

• 01:58 – Initial discussion of Trump’s nuclear tweet and the resulting stress
• 05:00 – "Yep" in the group chat: digital communication pet peeves and misread signals
• 12:15 – Household annoyances: banana peels, jackets, and trash habits
• 26:00 – Laura’s daughter’s fascination with "Sharks, Blood, Death" and family’s Halloween vibes
• 28:39 – Disney movie critique and the nuances of princess representation
• 34:37 – Parenting babies vs. boys: contributors admit the exhausting transition
• 40:08 – The reality of gender obsession in parenting/IVF journeys
• 44:33 – Listener’s challenge: Can we forgive Kanye West?
• 54:03 – Listener advice: wedding anxiety and the value of doing what feels right
• 63:58 – Open relationships and a frank analysis from Jay from Jers

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Takeaways

• The episode is a showcase of the hosts’ willingness to be vulnerable about fears—whether geopolitical or deeply personal—and draws sharp (but loving) attention to the real-life rhythms of family, relationships, and the meaning of community.
• The group’s candor around emotional labor, gender roles, and contemporary parenting is both relatable and insightful, balancing humor, honesty, and empathy.
• Listeners are invited not just to absorb the commentary, but to join the conversation, send questions, and recognize the show's blend of cultural critique and ‘family therapy’ is very much a two-way street.

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Transcript

[Ebro Darden]

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[Laura Rosenberg]

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[Ebro Darden]

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[Laura Rosenberg]

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[Ebro Darden]

It is an honor to share.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, it's our honor.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

It is our larger honor. No, really, stop.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You can really feel the respect in this battle. Pick a meal to pick a side.

[Ebro Darden]

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[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Just don't call it a podcast. The Ebro, Laura Rosenberg show. Those scratches line up intro and you know what I'm saying, does that feel like. Is it John Blaze? The way I brought that in? Not really.

[Ebro Darden]

It's on the line.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Freedom Friday Friday, Freedom fought Friday. Family Friday. All the F's, all the F's, all the Fs.

[Ebro Darden]

We're still alive, which is good.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

There you go. We're still here. Yo. Seriously, when that. When the. When Trump's nuke tweet was out basically decimating the Iranian population earlier this week, it was real stress in this room. You guys are really stressed.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I mean, bro, I know. I know he's insane, but it's a president.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Is he insane?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I mean, to me, he is, but.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Or is it the art of the deal?

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know. I. I feel stress about this whole thing.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Remember, that was. That's the whole point. Just keep reminding yourself. The whole point of this whole thing is.

[Ebro Darden]

Listen.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

He's all spiraling. Not knowing which way is up, not knowing what's real, not knowing what's fake. All while they make boatloads of money. I mean, yo, Eric. Eric. What's the other son's name? Don Jr. And Eric.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

You know how much money they've made, bro? Just them two. No, Laura, you know how much?

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, I don't, but hundreds.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Those two idiots have made hundreds of millions of dollars. Yo, you know how much Jared Cush. How much money? Jared Kushner.

[Ebro Darden]

No, he's made billions.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And remember when Jared Kushner got with Ivanka? His dad was in jail for financial crimes. Trump got his dad out. They've done their whole Israel two step Zionist, two step.

[Ebro Darden]

And made billions with Kushner. With Netanyahu staying in their house. Netanyahu stayed in Kushner's bed. Kushner had to stay on the couch downstairs. Because Netanyahu stayed in his room.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No, when.

[Ebro Darden]

When he came to the US Level of close.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

That's how close Jared Kushner's family is with Netanyahu. When he used to come to the US for whatever, he'd stay with them. They've been rocking this plot for how long, man?

[Ebro Darden]

It's so crazy. It's on. It's. It's truly unbelievable. Yes, it is.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It is. I know you do this thing.

[Ebro Darden]

That is so. Oh, you. You don't let us have our feeling. Yo, yo, It's Family Friday. Two things. One, Ebro does that. It drives me absolutely bonkers.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, I just asked the question. Is it crazy?

[Ebro Darden]

It negates it. It's not intentional. You're not intentionally being a jerk, but you are negating our real feelings on it.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I'm not. No, I'm just asking. Is it crazy?

[Ebro Darden]

But listen, you do other things that are annoying. You don't realize you're negating. And about time we finally let this go. This is big. I unveil this. This is Family Friday. Right? Another thing that Ebro does that he does not realize.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

He.

[Ebro Darden]

Maybe he does. Who knows that he's like. He's like Trump. You never know whether. Does he mean it? The yep in the group chat? Nah, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Why does that send you?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Wait, what am I responding to?

[Ebro Darden]

Everything. If you know something already, you hit it with a yep. And it takes the zing out of whoever was just trying to be like, yo, I.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

What would I do instead?

[Ebro Darden]

I saw.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Even if you said, I feel like it sounds condescending.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes. Even if you said, I saw this, I would prefer you say, I saw this. When you hit me with the yep. It's like, fail, I scooped you again. That's how it reads.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Fail.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I scooped you again.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes. Yeah. Don't let me feel bad. I just want to. Chris, I'm really.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I'm really trying to understand, like. So I say yep in. Like. I'm not saying it like I saw it already.

[Ebro Darden]

No, but you only do it when you've seen it already. Unless. Unless you're. Unless. Unless. Maybe that's how I'm reading it. It reads.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I thought, well, it depends. I might use it multiple way.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm gonna go to a random person. I've never asked about this. Bascom, how do you read the yep in the group chat? Oh, he's never pressed six, but ready.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

The same way you do.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

For some reason, the yep is like, sorry, loser, Already saw it late again. Yeah, Everyone reads it like that.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

All right, my bad. Sorry, guys.

[Ebro Darden]

Wow. Well, thank you for hearing my feelings on this. But the other thing you do is just to, like, when Laura and I in particular, trying to express our stress about Trump, when you're like, we're doing this again. It's like, yeah, we're feeling this like

[Laura Rosenberg]

it's a sitting president. Whether. Whether we know he's a psycho and he. It's a puppet.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, I guess. And by the way.

[Ebro Darden]

But it's our feelings.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No, but by the way, I struggle with this. This is what you guys are articulating, something I have a hard time with.

[Ebro Darden]

Go ahead.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I have a hard time. Once we've all openly discussed something being insane, ridiculous, and, like, something we probably shouldn't allow us to be, like, spiraled about, continuing to spiral about it.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, but are we spiraling? Is. Is bringing it up and being like, oh, man, is that spiraling? I think we're all under control. We're keeping our lives together.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I haven't broke down crying over it, but I am concerned.

[Ebro Darden]

And listen, we do break down crying on this show. Check out this week's Patreon. Yeah, but not about this.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But, yeah, no, I struggle with that in general. I struggle with the redundancy of things like where. Where it just feels stuck. It makes me feel stuck.

[Ebro Darden]

This must come up in your home, too, for sure.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Because, like, where there's things. We're still. We're still talking about this.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, you're a big. We're still talking about this. And how do you do that, Mary? Like, in a. In a. In a relationship like this? Because we wives bring up the same thing. Oh. And over.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And I'll. I'll say. I'll say, look, I don't know what else to say. Sometimes I've done that and it's caused problems. Well, I'll be like, I don't know how to contribute here. I don't really know what else to say. I've said everything I could say. I can't say the same things again, and it's driving me mad.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, you could listen.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

It's.

[Ebro Darden]

It's family Friday, so I'll tell you something from my family experience. Last week, the. The day of the move, which we're now a week and a half or so almost, you know, a week and a half removed from the move.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

I was sitting here on that Monday and. And my wife was texting me just hellfire and brimstone. Why did you work today? Why did we agree? This is. But she was spiraling. She was. Because the movers were in the house. And you guys remember how fast and you know, and I big them up. But shout outs to Oz. They did a great job moving us. And when those guys showed up, they get going. And she started panicking. I'm saying all of this to say in that moment, Ebro, I had a realization.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

I said, when I go home today, she is going to be. In a way, she's just going to be. Her whole life is being uplifted while she's holding her child. And we're moving back to. I need to handle this differently. I need to go against whatever my natural instinct is to want to not have her be upset and just let her be. Let it feel however it's going to feel without doing. At least. I don't know about you, I crack into this man thing of. I need to try to fix it and make this better. There's no making it better. The day of. It might just be annoying for a few hours. And so I didn't. When I got back and she had things to say about it, she was like, oh, this and that. I just went, yeah, man, Totally

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

perfect.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, Per. It was.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's it.

[Ebro Darden]

It was a gem. The whole day was great.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Now, in that scenario, I likely would have done the same thing, right, babe? I know this sucks.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I think you would have been better.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

We knew this was gonna suck and it sucks. Confirmed. Terrible.

[Ebro Darden]

But you're talking about other times.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Like, but that's a real thing. Like, that's actually happening. We're in a real thing. That's terrible, right? Not a speculative thing.

[Ebro Darden]

No moves are always terrible.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Not a speculative thing. That's terrible. Not some like, you know, unconfirmed madness or something we've actually solved. We've. We've literally researched and solved the problem. But we're still talking about the problem as if we didn't solve the problem.

[Ebro Darden]

You're rehashing it.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

We're. We're going through this again. We know the answer, right?

[Ebro Darden]

We did it.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

We did it together. We figured this out.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Did the problem come up again?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, no. We just. Well, sometimes. Sometimes activating on the solution is hard, right?

[Ebro Darden]

So it makes.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Because it might be a new thing. So sometimes inactive. And this is, by the way, myself, everyone else, where you've solved said problem or figured out how to fill, you know, whatever issue, Fix whatever issue. But the actual work and organization it takes to actually commit to that fix might take some time. Reorganizing, schedule, recommitment, making sacrifices, whatever it is. And so sometimes. And I do it, we all do it. You'll go back in and rehash the issue again because you actually don't. Aren't ready for the challenge ahead. And so for me, I. I get frustrated with that where I'm like. And I would do it myself. Like, I would. If there's something I'm working on and I just haven't committed to the solution. And I'll be like, bro, you know, I'll say it to myself. I'll be like, you know the answer. Why are you doing this?

[Ebro Darden]

Do you know how many times. First of all, Natalie's one is she's a big woulda, coulda, shoulda.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I know, I know.

[Ebro Darden]

You know, you've had the conversation. She's a big woulda. If I had just.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

If we.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, like, literally, like, serious topics, like the end of Rocky's life.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

The amount of times we went back through and. Which I'm not down for.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I've done this with Natalie. Me, Natalie and Jasmine.

[Ebro Darden]

Have I done this? Oh, yeah, you had the car. She's a big woulda, coulda, shoulda person. So there's that. But I'll tell this on the flip side of that, yo, in the last year and a half that we were at hot, the amount of times she heard me, like, nah, I'm done. I'm done. My deal's gonna be up. I'm done with these people. Not you people. I'm done with these people. They're not serious. This is dumb. If I leave now, I can do it on my own term. Babe. This only happens one of two ways. It's either I leave or they tell me to leave. What are we. The amount of time that she had to hear that. So we've both been on Opposite sides of it. But for me, it's usually one big issue. I feel like. Respectfully, Laura, with wives, it's like, it can be so many things that we're relitigating over.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And. And by the way, some of those. And by the way, some of those things, like, I'm. I'm not. I. I'm with you. Yeah. Nah, it's crazy. Not. It's nuts. I can't. Yo. I never remember you told me that story. Yeah, for sure. So what are we gonna do?

[Ebro Darden]

Remember you told me that story?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Gets so mad at me because I keep telling him that to pick up. He does this thing where he, like, eats, like, a banana, just leaves a peel on the table. He finishes a drink, just leaves it.

[Ebro Darden]

No.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Opens up a wrapper, leaves it. The trash can is right there.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, boy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's right there. And he says, why do you keep bothering me about this? Because you do not throw it away.

[Ebro Darden]

I won't lie to you. And I have mine. That. I'm sure Natalie said the same thing about the banana peel on the table. Might send me, though, because banana peel is gross. Banana peel is, like, the standard of trash. If you were making a cartoon about, like, the city was a mess, you would literally throw banana peels on the ground. It's garbage.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

In our house, unused or unfinished fruits and foods can. Can sometimes sit. And I understand that that's not a big deal. Like, you didn't eat the whole banana, so you're not gonna throw. You wanna. You're a big saver. So you want to save the rest of the banana.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm talking about.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No, no. If it's. If it's trash and it's done. Yeah, it's been thrown away.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It, like, it makes my eye twitch.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But, like, for me, like, I put. So, like, for me, I put my jacket down. Sometimes, like, on a chair, I'm laying.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm laying jackets down, right?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I'm a big. Like, I walked in, and because we don't allow shoes in the house, you take your shoes off. So I have to put my jacket down. Here, sit down, take my shoes off. And so now the jacket's there, the jacket's there. Hat goes there, and I try to pick it up.

[Ebro Darden]

But sometimes my shoes by the door. You guys have a thing for the shoes by the door?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Not a thing, but there's an area for shoes by the door. But then I also just sometimes put my shoe.

[Ebro Darden]

Shoes away.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But sometimes shoes get socked up, but that's not an issue.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

There's no, like, controversy around shoes.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, we'll beef with each other about the shoes. She'll come to me and be like, can you move your shoes? The next day I'll be like, the shoes?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, we both. We both do the shoes. Depending who did it on a given day.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah. Nah, we're good. Like, you know, but like. Like, to your point, going back to something I do, that's annoying. I. Going back to the Trump thing and the spiraling over what's gonna happen once I picked up on your patterns. I can't do the dance with you. I just can't do it.

[Ebro Darden]

This is the second time in the. He's talked about being a pattern guy. And the pattern guy thing is annoying. If you're the person whose pattern he thinks, either accurately or inaccurately, that he's figured out because now you're waiting on them. You've done the thing once.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I'm not upset about the pattern. I've just picked up on the pattern.

[Ebro Darden]

Right, but now you act accordingly based on the pattern.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Because I have to. Because I can't allow you to continue to be on this roller coaster if it's a roll. Especially if it's a roller coaster ride. Ride.

[Ebro Darden]

Right.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I can't. I gotta get off the ride for my own sanity. My own. It's. That's my own, like, boundary protection thing. That's my own, like, energy. Like, I'm a big energy protector guy. Which goes back to how you guys are always like, why do you let them get away with that? What do you. Because for my own energy insanity, I can't just have people triggering me, yanking me around, having me all doing all. I can't do it.

[Ebro Darden]

And that gets full circle back to why when we're saying the things. He's like, why are you doing this?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Right?

[Ebro Darden]

Because us saying it makes it seem like we're being yanked every which direction. I really might just be saying it because it's.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No, you guys are better with dealing.

[Ebro Darden]

Sending me. It's just like, oh, my God. But I'm not actually being thrown off.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

See, I don't have that. Whatever that is that you have right there. I don't have that level. Those multiple emotives, whatever that is. My range of is that. You know what I mean? Like, I don't have a good range. Like, you know what I mean? It's like I'm chilling or I'm not chilling.

[Ebro Darden]

No, this. This comes from my house of just the constant. You know, it's being the bloody BBC in my house all the time, it's. I'm used to it. You know, that was a big adjustment for Natalie coming to visit with my family, her family, they're literally playing music and no one talks about anything. They're just having fun. And in my family, we don't have fun, we just talk. Now it is commiserate.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

It is constant commiseration complaining.

[Ebro Darden]

Right, Right. And if you're not in the mood to have like a big talk about overarching political issues.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

Or my dad complaining about the celebrity. You know, my dad does these things in his old age that drive me so nuts. He has certain celebrities where he just can't remember their name, but he talks about them all the time. The time.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Like who?

[Ebro Darden]

Chappelle. Oh, the comedian.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Dad, he just calls him the comedian.

[Ebro Darden]

Your friend the comedian.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

That's kind of funny.

[Ebro Darden]

No, dad, it's Dave.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I. I hope it's a comedy skin. He's not.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Cuz it's funny. He does it with your friend, the comedian every time. No. What's his face? The guy that makes funny stuff.

[Ebro Darden]

You know, I swear to God, I don't think he's joking. And I think he does it with Stephen A too. And anyone recent, anyone who's in the last, like, if you were like last five years to his purview, got in too late.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, you know, it's so like, I was just thinking while you were talking about like family and maybe where some of this comes from for me is because my family, when I'm with like my family who raised me family. Not my, you know, me, J.

[Ebro Darden]

Your family of origin.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

My family of origin. There's a lot of complaining man with no solutions. It's a lot of getting together. You know, so and so died, you know, so and so's in the hospital. Oh, so and so's back in jail, you know, I can't believe that he dated this woman and, you know, abused her like that. You know, the cops came last night, you know, and it was just. It's like, bro, nobody's fixing this. Nobody's doing nothing. You guys are just complaining. Ah, get. I'm moving. Get me out. Yo, when I grow up, I'm not doing none of this.

[Ebro Darden]

I get it.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I don't want no parts of none of this. So like, when you sit around, it's just like, oh, I can't believe this happened. It's like, shut the

[Ebro Darden]

right. Can we have a good time?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Can we just have or not even have a good time? Can we talk about solutions? Can we actually make. Can we make sense of it all? Like, at least let's make sense of it all. Not just complain, not just give me some lot. And by the way, that's got me in trouble a lot in life where people will be like, well, can we just talk about the issues? And I'm like, can we talk about solutions?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, especially we get you in trouble and in. In relationships, because. Oh, women don't want solutions.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No, I just want to emote. I just want to feel. And so I had to learn to be like, you know, I'm with you. Yeah, nice word.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Why do you like to generalize so much?

[Ebro Darden]

Me?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, like, women be shopping. Like, well, women solutions. Like what? What the.

[Ebro Darden]

Women be shopping. You know what I mean? No, Laura, that's not even me generalizing.

[Laura Rosenberg]

My God, I just. It annoys me. It really annoys me. Yeah, you and Eber always generalize like, you know, the wives. And I'm just sitting here like, I'm not.

[Ebro Darden]

You're not. But we don't mean you.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I mean, are you not.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, no. And she's kind of.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Ricardo, we need you on the program.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

By the way, everyone else is waiting with certain things. I'm just like, not. I just.

[Ebro Darden]

But you're. But you are also a tomboy. You're a little bit. You know, I'm not saying obviously all women are different, but you would agree. Maybe you would agree. Would you agree that in relationships it is typically said, and in my experience often true, that women want to talk about an issue and they don't want the man to try to problem solve. But men default. Let me, let me, let me generalize the men instead of the women.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

We tend to go, cool, I hear you complaining, let me fix it. And they're like, I don't want you to fix it. I'm not. The reason I brought it up wasn't because I need a man to give me a solution. I just wanted to share the information with you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But that Ricardo does that with me, which comes that he's the opposite. Like, he'll come and wants to talk about something with me and, and, And

[Ebro Darden]

I listen and you don't offer a solution.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I ask him, I was like, so what do you want to do? And then he'll give me a B or C. No, because it's not a gender thing. And then we discuss it.

[Ebro Darden]

But that's good, what you do, what you're doing, though, because men have a tendency to not do what you do and say, what do you want to do? We just jump right into action. And we're like, well, here's what you need to do. And they're like, I don't need you to tell me what to do. So the generalizing you think I'm doing about women is partially true, but I'm also generalizing men. But this is common. I mean, maybe not your relationship and maybe not all relationships, but women be shopping. But yours, and for the most part, mine. But definitely previous ones, too, where I was just big on, like, let me fix, let me fix, let me fix. And it's not always a let me fix kind of situation.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Listen, social roles are social roles for a reason.

[Ebro Darden]

They're not always true, but.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They're not always true.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

They're not always true. And by the way.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And I think they're often more than ever.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. Not as.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But I think men are. But. But that's because men are being encouraged to be more emotionally in touch and to share more. And then you have women complaining about it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Who's complaining about it?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No, some women are complaining about men being too emotional. I don't think.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know. Laura's being very disagreeable today. This.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I just. You guys tend to.

[Ebro Darden]

These women are. These women are just. They just come at you now, like we said.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, no, I think Laura makes a valid point. I don't all the way agree with her or believe her, though.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, believe what part?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I don't believe that Ricardo's the opposite, and you're the other way. I don't believe that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, I'm just saying it's happened both ways. That's what I'm trying to say.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And. But. But that's more human. That's more normal. I'm sure. There's times I've gone to Jazz, and I want to talk something through, and she's like, babe, like, why are we so. I'm sure that happens.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, remember I said that earlier with my thing about hot? I was always rambling about what I was doing. I'd see Natalie like, oh, boy, here he goes again. You know? Like, she knew that there wasn't gonna be a solution we were coming to. I was just gonna keep. Keep talking through it over and over and over again and never landed anywhere until.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Until you got the boot.

[Ebro Darden]

Until I got the boot.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, you made your choice, essentially.

[Ebro Darden]

Kind of made your choice. Well, the final decision was, I'm not going to sign a new deal. And I literally did say out loud to Dip and Natalie, let's just keep making this money till it ends. There's no need for me to walk out right now. The world's crazy. Keep. Keep making money until it ends. Like, it's going to end. But, like, why? Why, why rush it? And then we were already in discussion about this. I didn't know what we were going to do. So I was like, I'm just gonna play it out and see where we land.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah, but I thought that was a good decision.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

What was the other choice?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, no, I think it was. And I think in the end it was. But I still went. I mean, I just.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But, yeah, those are my things. Like, I. Yep.

[Ebro Darden]

Yep. Yo, anyone out there in the chat, do you have yeppers? You have any yeppers in your chat?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah, I don't really think it's because I saw it all the time, so I think sometimes I'm just like, yup, got it. Like, got it. Yep.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's so funny to me.

[Ebro Darden]

Yup is different than. Yep. He'll say. Seen that?

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, the particular yet bothers Rosenberg, though. To me, it doesn't bother me.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, he feels like I'm being dismissive.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I know what you mean, but you

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

know what bothers me?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, boy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Ebro Darden]

Go ahead.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

You don't respond at all to any content.

[Ebro Darden]

I.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

How about that? You don't respond at all to any content. All day of people sharing. People are like, hey, what about this? What about that? Everybody's chiming in. You don't say nothing on the weekend, and then you walk in the next day like, what are we doing, guys? And I'm like, yo, we.

[Ebro Darden]

No, that's not. That's partially true. I don't always respond. Sometimes it's gotten away from it. Where now the thing that you sent. There's been so many other things sent since then that I don't then go, like, reply and respond to it. But I still watch the lion's share of what is sent. But I appreciate. I hear what you're saying, and I will make a better effort.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I don't really care that much.

[Ebro Darden]

But also, the timing of the day will be like. I'm literally just like, my brain can't fit it in.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, I'm there too, and that's why I hit y' all with Yep. Because at least I. At least I acknowledge that it was sent.

[Ebro Darden]

That's true.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Just heart it.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So when I thumbs up something, it's really a. Yep. Just so you know that thumbs up is really a. Yup.

[Ebro Darden]

Thumbs up can feel terrible. Thumbs up can feel worse than y.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

What else?

[Ebro Darden]

But you saying a heart Heart is nice. Heart is nice.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I see a heart thing.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, but you're not gonna heart what we sound like. Trump threatens to kill half the world. Heart that looks nuts.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But see, but that's inappropriate. Yep.

[Ebro Darden]

That is true. You know what?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Maybe he does.

[Ebro Darden]

Maybe now I'll view the yep differently. I always.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I never knew you thought it was dismissive, but you. That never crossed your mind? Never.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I understand how it looks dismissive because everybody else thought it looks dismissive, but I know you, so I just take it like, whatever. That's just E, bro.

[Ebro Darden]

He is dismissive.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I am.

[Ebro Darden]

She's just like. He's dismissing. By the way, we never hit the intro, but this has all been family matter so far, hasn't it? Has it?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

We talked literally all about our families interacting. Someone tried to file a claim on this song, so we can't play the whole thing anymore.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And it wasn't even the people who wrote the song. It's a rando rapper.

[Laura Rosenberg]

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[Ebro Darden]

Yo, I gotta hear the song from the rapper who attempted to say not

[Laura Rosenberg]

me before they flag.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But we have some other family stuff, right? You had some, didn't you? Have Kenza's school pick. That came out good.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm not ready to put that up, though.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Okay. Not ready to put that up.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, no, no, no.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Rosa. Laura, if you missed it, last week, was worried that Ken's school pick was going to be a disaster.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, but it's okay.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And it wasn't.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes, I saw a preview.

[Ebro Darden]

It's really cute.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It was cute.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Oh, that was just a preview.

[Ebro Darden]

That's why. No. Any more death stories?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I mean, you know, it happens. The other day, she was on FaceTime with her cousin who lives in California. So I let them do a little like 15 minute FaceTime. It's cute.

[Ebro Darden]

And you like to listen. You sit there and listen.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

It must be hilarious.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So they were doing a. They were recreating, like a scary movie and she was Putting, like, red lip gloss all over her. I was like, all right. But it was funny, though.

[Ebro Darden]

That's makeup. That's happening to all your interests. It's makeup.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And I was like, okay. She was like, it was. We made a movie. I'm like, okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Every generation. As someone who's obsessed with death, this fall, Kenza Lose is on prowl again. Sharks, Blood Death. Cancer Loves death. Was it Kenza Loves Death?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I don't remember what the movie was. Wait, you sbd. That's a. That's her new series.

[Ebro Darden]

What's sbd?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Shark's Blood Death.

[Ebro Darden]

Sharks Blood Death, too.

[Laura Rosenberg]

When I posted the picture of her, you know, explaining her family crest thing that we did, it was so funny. Everyone's like, oh, how cute. No one died. Oh, how cute.

[Ebro Darden]

Really?

[Laura Rosenberg]

No. Sharks on fire. My mom asked me. She was like, why? I'm like, mom just. I had to explain to her. And she was like, I. I was like, yeah, she likes that.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Wait, so your hasn't picked up on her granddaughter's obsession?

[Ebro Darden]

It's newish.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But you haven't shared, like, hey, mom,

[Ebro Darden]

any visits coming up?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Or.

[Ebro Darden]

They could.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I mean. Yes. Yeah, yeah, next month. And my mom's coming for her 75th, which is pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, we're really happy about that. But she. I told her, but she knows that she's. She's a Halloween baby, and she knows that she's obsessed with Halloween stuff. So my mom's just like, you know, Halloween. I was like, all right.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Did you ask your mom? Did you show any of these signs yourself as a child?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I haven't asked, like, how did you

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

end up so much?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I just.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Other than loving the artsiness of it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes. And I love what it stands for. And I just. People around me were celebrating it, and I thought it was so cool, and I've always been a fan of it.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No, I'm a fan.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. It's dope.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

By the way, Coco the movie. If you've never watched it, haven't seen Coco either. You haven't watched Coco?

[Ebro Darden]

Nope.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'll get you, man. It's one of those.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Speaking of family, we watched. Have you guys seen Tangled on Disney? The Rapunzel?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. Kenza loves that one.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

She loves that one.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So we're watching it, and obviously Jazz and I look at each other where it's like the powers in her long blonde hair, and it's like, everything is about her power being in her long blonde hair. We get to the. We get to the end of the thing. We're like, oh, and. Oh. And then here's the other part. When they cut the powerful long blonde hair, it turns brown.

[Ebro Darden]

No.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And it has no power anymore.

[Ebro Darden]

No. That's a thing.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

That's the. But I mean, obviously you get to the end of the movie and you realize is that she's really the power. And it's in her teardrop and these other things. But the entire, you know, 90% of the movie, it's about her glowing, powerful, super long blonde hair and the powers of her blonde long.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's the whole movie, basically.

[Ebro Darden]

That's crazy. I know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I mean, it's based on Rapunzel, you know.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. Rapunzel was big, long blonde hair, too.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Although, growing up, I don't remember Rapunzel having specific blonde hair.

[Ebro Darden]

Exactly.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's why I was like, I don't remember her being a blonde.

[Ebro Darden]

I do picture Rapunzel blonde, though.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Even though. I don't know.

[Ebro Darden]

I know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Maybe I just didn't pay attention.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I don't know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It is what it is.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But anyway, we're watching it with. With Selassie, and then Jazz and I are looking at each other. Are we. What year is that movie programming here?

[Jay from Jers]

That shouldn't.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Maybe 2010. Damn. Maybe 2010.

[Jay from Jers]

Ish.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

It's a good movie, though. 2010. 2010. It's a good movie, though. But she loves Tiana also, so we're in a good place. Loves Tiana. Tiana. Tiana. I don't even know where she got. Maybe Issa and her watch. Tiana. Because Issa like Tiana. Maybe Selassie picked up on that. I don't know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I think so.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Where that came from.

[Ebro Darden]

Wow.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Princess and the frog.

[Ebro Darden]

That's so crazy. Princess. The frog's a good one, man.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's a real good one.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah, no, it's a goodie. Speaking of Issa and Salassi family matters, we were Eastering it up, you know, Easter egg hunts hanging out. I took some good pics. It was cute. Cute stuff was going on here.

[Ebro Darden]

We'll be the judge.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Color is this?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So Issa had a finger jam courtesy of football. So we had to go by the occupational therapist. Here, start that from the top from me. So this was a shocker.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Look at her little T shirt.

[Ebro Darden]

What color is this? What color is this?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Pink. Pink.

[Ebro Darden]

What color is this? What you say? Teal.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

How do you know Teal? Child. Wow.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yay.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So either your sister finally wanted to go to sleep. Okay. Yeah. With you?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

How's that feel?

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's a really good, proud big sister moment. You know, definitely one for the books.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

She usually doesn't want to go with

[Laura Rosenberg]

me while she's napping or, like, after nap.

[Ebro Darden]

So this is a very special moment. That's the first time.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, notoriously, Esau will be like, give me a hug. And salas like, no. And thinks it's funny. Or when it's napping and laying, you know, doesn't label be like, laying with dad or Mom. Go to the next one. Good job.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's in the bag.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Now you keep it there.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Hold it. This was the religious Easter egg hunt, remember?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right, right, right, right, right, right.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Where the red egg was the blood of Jesus.

[Ebro Darden]

Well.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, gosh.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, it has to be about something, right?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I've never heard this before.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Nobody. I've been to Easter egg hunts, and nobody proclaimed on the microphone, the red egg represents the blood of Jes.

[Ebro Darden]

I just thought it was Cadbury.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

Want to eat some yummy sugar yolk? What are we talking about?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

That was great. Great people out there, though, so shout out to them. But now. Yeah. So it was a good family moment this weekend.

[Ebro Darden]

That was.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

That was a good time.

[Ebro Darden]

I. I really have it. I, like, have barely. Maya sleeping on me is barely a thing so far. Like, she's. She's only now starting to, like. Like, if we're watching something on, like, a Saturday morning, maybe, like, lay on me, you know, like, really stay put and not get up and walk over, you know, she's starting to, like, be able to sit and stay in one place longer. I haven't gotten, like, lots of times where she's, like, falling asleep on me

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

since she was an infant.

[Ebro Darden]

No, not even as an infant. Like, I mean, I don't know. We were big on putting her in the bed, so, like, there wasn't a lot of falling asleep on me because it was, like, nap time down. And then, like, in the middle of the night, if she got woken up. Yeah. In those cases, there'd be a couple of times where I held her till she slept and then just put her right down.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

I had two videos that were just very cute. That's all.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

The.

[Ebro Darden]

The. The first.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

The.

[Ebro Darden]

The one where she's standing up. This was just last night. They're. Oh, they're back to back. All right, go ahead, Beyonce, to come for us. This was bedtime a couple of days

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

ago, and this is music you're playing in the house before bedtime.

[Ebro Darden]

It was playing quietly on my iPhone. It sounds like it's blaring. It's not. It was on her playlist from my

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I Love the Bookshelf.

[Ebro Darden]

But then she started brushing her hair, and I didn't know that that was the thing she had any idea of how to do. It doesn't go great. I wouldn't say it's the most effective.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

That bottle's crazy, yo.

[Ebro Darden]

That happy waddle is nuts. So this is her adjusting to her new room, which, even though we're back in our old apartment, that's smaller. The one thing that's definitively bigger is her room. Yeah, she's in business in this room. No, and don't do that. And then this was just adorable.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Oh, yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I just can't.

[Ebro Darden]

I could watch this video endlessly. She just. Every time she brings her the orange, she brings up the same stupid, hilarious, adorable grin.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Why does it look so delicious when they eat it? Right?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Because it is. It's brand new.

[Ebro Darden]

I know.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Euphoria.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's so good.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, I'm watching Baskin watch the video. He's ready to have number five.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Ask him. You've done this four times already, you know.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Baskin, grab the mic. I got questions for you. Shout out to my niece, mj, right there, looking horrible and amazing. You know what I'm saying? Baskin, are you addicted to babies? Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

No.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No. They are. But I'm just wondering, are you one of those people that you're addicted to the baby part, but once they become the kid? Because I noticed with your sons, like, yeah, you're there for them, but you don't have the same. See that joy on your face? You have. Last time I saw you with your sons, they was on your nerves. You weren't smiling like that. Yeah, it was annoying. See?

[Ebro Darden]

But now.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But when they're babies is the best thing ever.

[Ebro Darden]

Like.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Like, baby, you know, he has this euphoric look, but when I see him and his wife with the boys at, you know, how old's your youngest?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Four.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Four. With four to eight, right?

[Ebro Darden]

Four, six and eight.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Four, six, eight. When I see them with them not smiling, I haven't seen them smiling. Years.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's years.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And we've been at mad family year. It's been years. They're not smiling.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's. It. It just looks so time consuming and.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No, it looks painful.

[Ebro Darden]

It is.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You got to pay attention to all of them. Like, I don't even know how to tell.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, they just. They're. They're boys now. They're not. They're definitively not babies. Even the four year old. Like, four is not a baby.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's cute. Four can still be cute. Significant. I don't have girls.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I'm not.

[Ebro Darden]

So I don't.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But they're significantly different than girls. Like, you have to keep your head on a swivel. They're always physical acting, making noise. It's like. It's really a lot.

[Ebro Darden]

I. I really go back and forth. I really go back and forth on whether I want to have a boy or a girl next. This is, like, a really big boy.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

You got to be ready for action, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

My friend sent me this video, and it was really funny at the time, and I was like, I get it. She was like, this is my daughter at three years old, right? Then it's a video. This is my son at 3 years old. And the son was covered in baby powder and, like, slopping, like, jumping like a maniac. I was like, oh, my God.

[Ebro Darden]

I know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

She's like, yep.

[Ebro Darden]

I just. I really go back and forth. Like, I love Maya so much that, like, why wouldn't you just run it back, right? Like, it's just. Daughters seem amazing, and I'm gonna be an old dad, so the more sweet, you know, girls on deck who are thoughtful, want to take care of their daddy when he gets older, the better. Son could leave me high and dry. I'm gonna be a rapper. I'm moving out to you know who. I gotta chase my dreams like you did. Dad, I'm out.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He's gonna be like, I'm good. You're gonna leave me everything anyway.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah. Yeah, I'll see you later, so. But then at the same time, it's like to. Don't I. I'm sure I want to feel what that feels like, too. The. The raising a son, of course, is different than raising a daughter.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I get it.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Ebro.

[Ebro Darden]

You have any desire to have a son?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah, I'd love to have a son. It would be great. It's, you know, it's not in the cards, guys.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, same with me.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Because, you know, we didn't do the whole, you know, decide which, you know, we went, what, what, what we got. And I. Honestly. One of my biggest fears is health.

[Ebro Darden]

No. So who cares?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah. It's so hard.

[Ebro Darden]

I didn't care at all, so. But now that you literally have a choice where we have a couple of each.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

You know, because. And also. And everyone knows if they've been on an IVF journey, don't know if it's gonna take each time you do it. But we do have a couple of each, so in theory. God Willing one would work. Right. But there's boy and girl. So we could ultimately choose. But, like, every few days, one of us will look at Maya, be like, what are we doing? We just gotta have another one of these. Like this. She is just.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And. But you may not get that.

[Ebro Darden]

You may not get that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Exactly.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

All girls ain't. Laura just finished telling you. Yeah, stop generalizing the girl.

[Ebro Darden]

I know.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Because Salasi ain't like Issa.

[Ebro Darden]

No, they're different. Oh, they.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I mean, different.

[Ebro Darden]

They both seem relatively well.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No, they're both. They're both amazing in their own ways. But Salasi is definitely, like, you know, a little bit more mischievous and willing to, like, test boundaries that Issa wasn't necessarily tested.

[Ebro Darden]

Right.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But that's a show. A different type of intellect also like that some of these things, they're second kids.

[Ebro Darden]

Second and third kids are different.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

It just naturally happens that way.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So, you know, and. But it's all good. I'm. I get. Like I said, I get stuck on this health thing, man, because I know there's families out there dealing with challenges that. It's like, man, like, I don't know where that would send our house.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. Well, you survive. Yeah, everybody does. But I hear you. And, like, I never really understood. Count all the fingers and the toes until that moment. You guys remember the story I told you about when we were in the hospital and they said a new doctor showed up, and she was from pediatrics, and she was like, hey, I'm so and so from Pediatrics. You know, you're down the stretch here where there's just different people showing up, and you're like, hi. She goes, I'm here. Everything's fine. We just have one pediatrician here in case something's going on, like, the baby doesn't cry or something like that. And I was like, baby doesn't cry. It was the first time, like, that crossed my mind as a thought, and then remembering, oh, yeah, the baby's gonna cry. That's how this is gonna happen. We're talking about. I'm. Within an hour, the baby's gonna cry. And then the next hour happened, and it was amazing. And I've told on the air about the beautiful feminine power that I saw come together to continue the world moving. And when that cry hit, whoo, man. It hit so different. And then I'm like, she's. And she was good. She's fine. She's crying. She's all there.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And. Yeah, you like gender. It's crazy to me. That people obsess over gender, babies.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm like, at that point, you just want a healthy child.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah. Well, and mostly you hear men obsessing over gender. I don't know if I recall women obsessing over.

[Ebro Darden]

I know I had a friend do that with me recently. It's like, you gotta have that son, though.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I'm like, dude, do you hear that, Laura?

[Laura Rosenberg]

No. Now that I think about it, no. And all the gender reveals gone wild that I've seen is usually a man upset because he didn't get a boy.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Right. It's not a woman. And that's. I think that's because women know how hard it is to actually get through this process.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, let's ask. Let's ask Bascom. Bascom, you guys had your fourth boy again. How was there any serious level of like, oh, man, we really were hoping this would be a girl. Yes.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So we normally wait till birth to

[Ebro Darden]

find out the sex. This one, I couldn't. I need to know why. Just emotionally, you thought just emotionally. I couldn't go through that roller coaster again because I really wanted a girl. Like, if we're doing this again, I

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

hope to have a girl.

[Ebro Darden]

And I think my wife would have been happy either way, but she knew what I wanted, so I think she also wanted.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So once again, it's the men.

[Ebro Darden]

So. Yeah, but to Ebro's point. Yeah, but you guys.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

What.

[Ebro Darden]

So what happened? You found out the news. You went, oh, man, that's crazy.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And I was like, oh, my God.

[Ebro Darden]

And now you're over it. Yeah, of course.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He has a beautiful baby.

[Ebro Darden]

Find out. Because when you don't find out, you're

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

just hoping for a healthy baby.

[Ebro Darden]

When I did find out, after that, I just. Hopefully it's healthy baby. And now we have four boys. We're a family of four.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah, Correct.

[Ebro Darden]

The basket boys.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah. So I. And I. And I also, I resent all the people who are like, ha, you got a girl. Blah, blah, blah, you're in trouble talk. I resent it, bro. Like, that's really something. Like, in the back of my mind, I'm like, yo, the world is a crazy place where men. It's a curse that you have girls. Like, think about that.

[Ebro Darden]

Because you were a dog with women and now you have a girl.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I've seen it in comments, like, coming at him as if it's a bad.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Like, I'm like, yo, a girl. This is a mate. Yo. Girls are amazing. Like, thoughtful, loving, expressive, communicative. They're. They're. They mature faster like, that's a real thing. Like, they are honestly conceptually picking up on human concepts and things faster. Like, it's boys. When we finally figuring out how to clean your ass and you're, like, 13, it's like. It's crazy. Like, you're literally. You have doo doo stains in your draws. 12. I have nephews. I'm like, yo, bro, you. You don't know how to clean your ass, bro. You're 12. Like, that's bananas.

[Ebro Darden]

This is. This is a Bascom. Please cover your ears because there's a lot of daughter dads in the room besides Bascom. Like, everybody.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

There is a funny thing that kicks in, though, when you do have a girl and you don't have a boy is I will sometimes, like, be around other kids and I'll see other little boys, and I'm like, this kid looks like an idiot compared to girls. The way they move you naturally. Like, you dummy. What are you doing? They're one years old.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm just happy that good men are raising good men.

[Ebro Darden]

You mean good, good men or good girls?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Men are raising good men. I think it's really important. So, Rahsaan, you're raising four wonderful human beings, specifically boys that are going to be.

[Ebro Darden]

And they will be as smart and good as boys are capable of being.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But you also remember Rahsaan before he was raising.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I mean, listen, some of my favorite memories. And he. I don't think he likes when I bring it up, but it's lit. It brings me joy.

[Ebro Darden]

Outside basket.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yes, but those boys will have that same.

[Ebro Darden]

That's the DNA in the convert. He's a convert. He wasn't born into being. This the last one?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, not my last one.

[Ebro Darden]

My third. Oh, he got some.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Some b.

[Ebro Darden]

He got some bas. He's got. Oh, by scumbag.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, he has you to guide him. Okay.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But, yeah, I don't know if it's gonna help. Yeah, I don't know if it's gonna help, because Rah's dad is a great man. And look what Rasan had to go through.

[Ebro Darden]

Everyone's got to go through their own. Their own. Their own journey.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

We got.

[Ebro Darden]

We got to read some emails.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Email time here. Ebro Laura Rosenberg, Shout out to everybody that emails Ebro Laura Rosenberg at Gmail. Voice notes, emails, the whole shebang. What do you got? Laura Styles, you go first.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay. This is from Stephanie. Hi, guys. Long time listener. Followed you guys to YouTube. Just want to say I respectfully disagree with Ebro's viewpoint of the Kanye comeback. Kanye has Been saying and doing all these anti black statements long before the Epstein files and the Gaza genocide. Supporting Kanye in 2026 is no different than supporting Kid Rock or even Nick Fuentes. Right now. This moment is showing how black people are too forgiving of our own, even when that person has made no real effort of showing growth. It honestly makes me sad. If we can cancel Nick Cannon, there's no reason why we can't seem to let go of Kanye. Love the show. Keep doing your thing.

[Ebro Darden]

Two things.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No.

[Ebro Darden]

1 canceled Nick Cannon. And there is a huge difference and discrepancy between Nick Cannon and Kanye.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

In what way?

[Ebro Darden]

Talent and things that were brought to the world. I'm sorry, respect to gigolo, but.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, Nick Cannon's a great host. Wild N Out.

[Laura Rosenberg]

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[Ebro Darden]

and there never will be.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

From the producer, Bohemian Rhapsody. There are many legends, but there is only One Michael. Rated PG 13. In theaters April 24th. Play along, man.

[Ebro Darden]

No, listen, this isn't a drum line. Masked singer.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Masked singer. America's Got Talent.

[Ebro Darden]

No, listen, this isn't a dish.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

What'd you say? Love don't cost a thing.

[Ebro Darden]

This is not a diss to Nick. I could only hope to have the successful broadcasting career that Nick's had. He's amazing in that way. I'm saying, though, in a serious. In a serious way, though the forgiveness level, the way people are connected to Kanye's music as one of the greatest artists of all time is different than a host who we find likable.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, I'd also for care more. I'd also for Stephanie. I don't think I've forgiven Kanye as much as I've.

[Ebro Darden]

Like, how did I have you? I didn't hear that you forgave him at all.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I think she took. What I was saying the other day is like.

[Ebro Darden]

Because you weren't being mean about him.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Because I was just kind of like. I think because I was saying people. I was. I was making an excuse for people not really understanding the difference between yes, Kanye said bad things and done bad things versus a genocide going on or death and murder and mayhem and things going on around the globe.

[Ebro Darden]

You do that. Well, that was excuse making and.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And basically being like, look, for some people, it's hard to discern, like, why do I. Okay, yeah, this guy said bad stuff. But I. I didn't vote for Donald Trump, who's out here creating war, literally creating mass murder and war. You know what I'm saying? So.

[Ebro Darden]

Or some cases, they did vote for

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Donald Trump, and in some cases, they did. Or Kanye west being a Trump supporter, and some people would be out on that. Then there's the part of the, like, you know, people bring up the slavery was a choice thing, and.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And the white lives matter and the

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

white lives matter shirt, outfit and. No. And it was leather, wasn't it? Like leather or something?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't know, bro. Still.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But yeah, all of the nonsense, right. Where it's. People are just. They're not ever going to be okay with it. And I don't. And I don't think they should. So that's what she's responding. I mean, I don't disagree. And you said, yeah, they invited me to the concert. I said, I'm not. I'm. I'm good. I'm not doing it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. I mean, I, you know, listen, I'm around, like, Ricardo's a huge, you know, he's a huge Kanye fan, so it's been a really rough time for him. But with me, if I would have gotten an invite to the Kanye show, I wouldn't not go. But that's just how I feel. I'm still like, I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, how. But how could you. It's hard to imagine being there yet. You know, we were kind of easy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

On Lauren and Erica, and, I mean, Travis, but I have no standards for Travis. Respectfully, he'll.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Or no expectation of his standards.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, perfect. Thank you. Yeah, I have no expectation for his standards. CeeLo, you know, some people get to a point in your career where the opportunity is a bigger deal than the. Than the risk.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

The.

[Ebro Darden]

The risk is worth the reward of getting on stage with Kanye.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And some of them honestly want to give him grace. Look, there are some people who want to forgive people faster than other people. That's the thing.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And then some people who are like, hey, he's not well, and they lean on that, and that's why they can forgive him.

[Ebro Darden]

But it's also hard because you're like. But also do you just not care that much about what he said.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I think that's that too.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

He said like, you know, so many bad things.

[Laura Rosenberg]

There's. There's people who don't care. There's some people who lean more on the anti black stuff. That affects them more. And there are some people who. The anti Semitic stuff hurts them more. And then some. All, all of it, the whole thing, Trump stuff. All of it.

[Ebro Darden]

The, the. The saying horrible things about Jay Z and Beyonce's children.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

There's that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Ebro Darden]

You know, it's a. It's. It went on and on and we're forgetting. I don't even know. I don't even recall if like homophobic stuff was in there too. I feel like it was, but I can't even recall. There was so much.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So much.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, I tried to. Someone in the comments this week though, in. On our Kanye post in their defense of him was like Rosenberg, even when he said going defcon on the Jews, defcon means he was coming from a point of defensiveness. I was like, bro, we are not doing this.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Alright, moving right along. I gotta shout out Marilyn. She had wedding questions.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I know. This is. This is. This was for me.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Oh, okay.

[Ebro Darden]

She said she loves the new format. She used to listen on her way to work and would only catch snippets. Ebro, you always talk about this. But now she enjoys the full show, usually on her way home because she's usually at work by 8am so that's interesting. We never thought about this.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Such a better experience.

[Ebro Darden]

And people lessen on the home commute instead, which is kind of dope.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That happens a lot. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

I thought it was funny when you mentioned people who write in all caps because I happen to be a lowercaser. It's been part of my setting since I was young and I never changed it. FYI, in all caps, if you tap the shift key twice, you activate caps lock.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Doesn't work for me.

[Ebro Darden]

Me neither.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I accidentally did it and I was like, oh, that's how you do it.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But why won't it work on my text?

[Ebro Darden]

Hold on, I'm about to text y'. All. I don't think it works. Shift. Where is shift?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

The arrow up, arrow up.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Hit it twice.

[Ebro Darden]

It won't. It won't hold.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Mine doesn't hold.

[Ebro Darden]

Something changed and that does not hold for me.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So is that a keyboard setting?

[Ebro Darden]

Has to be yours.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Works.

[Ebro Darden]

Yep.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Interesting. Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Anyways, I'm writing to let you know that I'm getting married.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Ah.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm feeling all the Feels, but definitely super anxious. Rosenberg, please share how you got through this day. Were you even able to sleep the night before? Any tips advice for the day of or marriage in general is appreciated. This is my Evite to you guys. And yes, I did spend the money on a physical. Save the date and wedding invite. I will take tickets to see Jay Z or Merch as my wedding gift. Thank you. Hahaha. Let's see. Advice for the nerves I like. You know, listen, it was an interesting experience because I went ahead and got married twice. So the second time around, knowing this is the last time around, and also having very fond memories of my first wedding.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And being like, that day was a dope day. I really enjoyed it. You know, I felt a sense of gratitude that I was like, I don't know, it's like a scarlet letter getting married twice. But I was like, this is so cool. I get to have this day again. And this is the right way. Not only that, but I know that this is the one that's your person. But I get to do the day again because the day is fire. If you love getting to be in a room of lots of people that you love, there are some people for which that's all nerves and oh my God.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So I was just about to jump in and say that. Yeah, like, you know, the only nerves I process right now in the marriage

[Ebro Darden]

journey is seeing people all together in one room that you're like, I don't.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah. Managing to engage with a room full of people and be on for a day is like a nightmare. And I do that for a living. And it's a nightmare when I do it for a living, when I know today is going to be chocked full of like, hey, hey.

[Ebro Darden]

But did you invite the right people to your wedding? Because if you invite the right people to your wedding, you're not feeling that way because you're not seeing people where you're going, I have to do anything. Everyone you see, you just go, I want to hug this person. Oh my God, there's Ebro talking to my mom. I want to take a picture of them together. You know what I'm saying? It's all people you're excited to see.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So maybe that's the nerves because then it's like when you said, did you invite the right people?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Is it inviting your family with your friends?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No, no, no, I don't care that. No, it's just who are the right people? And because there's some people who think they're the right people. And you May not get invited.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That happens too, so.

[Ebro Darden]

So I ended up. She asked for advice. Enjoy it. Soak it up. Do whatever makes you feel good. The night before our wedding, Natalie was going to spend the night with one of her best friends, and she hit me up in the middle of the day and was like, can we spend the night together? And I was like, I hadn't thought about it. And then I was like, yeah, whatever makes you. Whatever's gonna make you feel good. We don't need to have some tradition.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

Rules. So me and Natalie and the dogs all stayed in one room together, and we changed it and did. And then.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Wait, why? So you guys were gonna have some traditional stuff? Like, we don't.

[Ebro Darden]

My first wedding, I didn't stay with my ex wife the night before. I stay with a friend, and she stayed with a friend.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And why do people do that?

[Ebro Darden]

It's just supposed to, like, make it feel, I think, exciting when you see each other. But then again, you do the first look photos, so it's nonsense anyway. Like, you don't see each other for the first time. I remember being like, yo, the first look photo is stupid to me. It. The first look photo should be taken at the ceremony right. When we see each other for the first time. Like, let's. Let's make it real. But that's not what they do. And you got to get the pictures right?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So.

[Ebro Darden]

And I'll let you know right now,

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

them pictures got to be right.

[Ebro Darden]

Jazz ain't met. You're doing first look photos.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

So listen, let me tell you something. I'm not going to be involved in. Yeah. And we'll be get in trouble because I'm going to be like, we're talking about this again.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I'm going to fall into that whole thing. Like, I thought we solved this problem. And then we're still talking about it. And I'll be like, why are we still talking about.

[Ebro Darden]

Right.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Can we. Do we. I thought we had a plan.

[Ebro Darden]

And it's your plan and it's. It's your.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And I love it.

[Ebro Darden]

And I love it.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And I love here to support you.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, wait, you want to change it? What do you want to change it to? We could do that.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Whatever.

[Ebro Darden]

So, yeah. Chill and enjoy it and soak it in. It really is the people I speak to who are. Who love their wedding, it's the best day of their life. Like, it really is that fun.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Marion, her super chat did not get read. She donated $50. No, it was a day after the Oscars. No, on March 16, I sent a gift via Super Chat. No, that's right. And I included a message with the $50. As Rosenberg was acknowledging those that got gifted, he paused as if he. If he were reading a message, then bypassed it. I knew my comment was a long shot, but for him to not acknowledge the gift left a sour taste. It's the principle. The comet quote. I said last year they weren't going to give Best Picture to a movie that held a mirror to America. But when they were nominated for 16 awards, I kind of hoped they proved me right. I'm not gonna add more, except to say that I love you all and I love the show.

[Ebro Darden]

So does she think that I was protecting Hollywood?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

The Jews were on Hollywood.

[Ebro Darden]

Right? And I was so. But also, I'm confused. She's. She is saying that she said Sinners wouldn't win Best Picture because it was

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

a mirror to America.

[Ebro Darden]

Because it was a mirror to America. And she was proven right.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

So, like, I would say yes, except, like, it was kind of the biggest. I feel like Sinners still won the night, didn't it?

[Laura Rosenberg]

They were definitely the favorite.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, no. But, like, even when it ended, I feel like with Michael B. Jordan and Cooler winning, like, I felt like they still won the night.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And also with these awards like Oscars and Grammys, Best Picture, and correct me if I'm wrong here, is that really, really, truly voting on the best overall movie, or is it really. Is it like. Is that why it's called Best Picture? Because, like, and I'm only saying this because of the Grammys. Right? So record of the year is like the full recording of all of the things that made it the recording.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes. Where song is the songwriting is the song writing. But, but, but Best pictures more album of the year.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, that's how I see it, too.

[Ebro Darden]

Which was that beyond.

[Jay from Jers]

Right.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

You see what I'm saying? And that's where I was going. Where album of the year is about the full packaging of the songwriting, the story, the. This, what it meant.

[Ebro Darden]

I spent some time thinking about the Oscars afterwards. The. The one battle after another one. Best Picture over Sinner. Me and Don legreco got into a big fight again. Because he hated one battle after another. He tore it. He could not. Like, I don't even understand what his argument was, frankly. But he did not see any value in it, really. And I thought it was fantastic. But I also haven't seen Sinners again, so. I haven't seen Sinners in so long. There was such a gap between When Sinners came out and the Oscars. Whereas one battle after another. I did Sinners. I ran to the theater. One battle after another. I saw. And HBO went right before it happened.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed one battle.

[Ebro Darden]

So you. When did you see it?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I just saw it, like, after. Like, a week after the Oscars.

[Ebro Darden]

And so what did you. You did enjoy it?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I did enjoy it. I. La resistencia. Like, I liked it. I. But I prefer Sinners. You prefer sinners? Sinners just provoke, like, just set so many emotions and feelings. I wanted to go and research.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Like, it made me want to look into things deeper. Like, in so many ways, the. You know, like the Native American characters, the Chinese in the Delta and this and that. I wanted to just research more about that time. So that's why I enjoyed it.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yes. For me, Sinners was more. It was more.

[Ebro Darden]

There was more.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

It was more.

[Ebro Darden]

A lot of people have a big problem with Teyana Taylor's character in one battle after another.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, that narrative of, like, they think

[Ebro Darden]

she was very thin.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And that there wasn't enough to her. And which. That's the part Don couldn't grasp is he was like. There's no one to root for. Was Don's problem. He was like. It's just varying degrees of ishy people. All of them. You know what I'm saying? Obviously, the.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Obviously DiCaprio's character was.

[Ebro Darden]

But that's what I'm saying.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And what about the daughter? I'm rooting for the daughter.

[Ebro Darden]

The daughter. But I would say DiCaprio, too. He was like a ne' er do well, but he wasn't a bad guy.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Oh. And he was also trying to be on the right side of history and fell in love with something and was a great. Trying to be the best dad he could all the time.

[Ebro Darden]

She had this postpartum and all this stuff happen, and she. And that's what I think it's like.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

I don't think you're supposed to think Teyana Taylor's character was a bad person. I think she had good intentions. She was always a spark plug. And then, like, what. She had a baby and all kinds of other stuff happened, and she kind of lost it.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And she was part of this movement that's required a lot.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. That already, like, could put you on the edge. And then she kind of lost sight of things. And about that. They were both very. They were excellent. I want to see centers again. I can't believe you, but you itched on the car scene. I can't believe you didn't like the car scene.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

It annoyed me. Yeah, but maybe it was.

[Ebro Darden]

But I thought it was badass at the end.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I thought it was cool.

[Ebro Darden]

Wasn't the way it went like so fight. Like just visually it was.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No, it was visually dope. I think I was. And it was supposed to be annoying,

[Ebro Darden]

I think to some random cuz you're like waiting to see what happen.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And I was annoyed by. It worked. I mean they did a good job.

[Ebro Darden]

I want to see. But lady, no, I didn't see your. I did not ignore your message. What?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, and Sinners is so unique on so many levels. I think that's the other part. Like Sinners is so unique, so layered, purposeful. Like it's so many things and it's well shot and it's a. It's a new story. I think that's the other thing that's super powerful about Sinners. Like there's bits and pieces of things that have. Are familiar to you, right? The blues, the delta, black folks in the south, music, vampire, like all of these things. But the way it's all bundled together and put into a story that affects that. That affects the now I think that's the piece that's like.

[Ebro Darden]

And I think that a lot of my negative feeling about it, which I didn't have that much, but my disappointment that I had was focused more around the vampire part because I like have like other vampire movies that I love. So it was a confusing thing for my brain, the first half of the movie that I was so into. And now we're in a vampire movie and maybe I focus too much on sort of judging it as a vampire movie.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. Maybe, you know, saying watch it again. I think you'll feel I'm comparing to

[Ebro Darden]

like From Dust till Dawn and. And Tales from the Crypt and these other movies that have done vampire movies in a way. Now that. That. No, that original Tales from the Crypt.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

That was hard with Jada Pinkett and Billy Zane.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I was too scared. I just remember the intro. I was like, change your channel.

[Ebro Darden]

That's the TV show with the curve keeper. Although he's in the movie too. Anyways, do we have a voice note too? Don't we?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

We do have a voice note. And you can email ebro Laura rosenbergmail.com

[Ebro Darden]

Send some more voice notes. We're not getting enough. They're so easy to do know.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, I think. I think it's because they. They get. We might be mean to them.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, no.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

What about like if they're long or they're mobile.

[Ebro Darden]

You can do a video or a. Or a voice note.

[Laura Rosenberg]

A video would be cool.

[Jay from Jers]

What's up, gang? Jay from Jers. Quick, cuz I know how I feel about the time. This is for the dude who wrote it on Monday's guru, the Swinger guy. I'm sorry to tell you, bro, you're cooked. I don't know if they. They want to tell you this. They want to hurt your feelings anymore, cuz, you know, we know you don't want to get divorced, but here's the thing. When you're with somebody for as long as you've been, and you've only been with that person ever in life, when you open the door, these were the swingers. And invite other people in. You have new experiences. And now she's experienced something she's probably never experienced before. That's where you fail. Okay? Now, it's not your fault y' all didn't know any better. It is what it is. But it's time to accept that. It's probably time for y' all to go y' all separate ways. She's not giving this up for you, okay? Y' all could potentially have been together for all this time. She may. May never have even had a orgasm. We don't know. I know plenty of women in this situation who haven't. And once they find it, they're not giving it back. I'm sorry. Completely different women. Like Sandra D. At the end of Greece. Okay? So instead of just watching it and. Please, Rosenberg. That was a good idea, the whole open relationship thing. If he wasn't some insecure, average dude with average meat. But she might start going on dates with these dudes and finding out that he's not even funny. He's. He's not even like, he's super boring. She might find out more stuff that she doesn't.

[Ebro Darden]

She might.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Now she's got.

[Ebro Darden]

Or the opposite.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

She's got compare and contrast.

[Jay from Jers]

Not gonna work. Just accept it, bro. You go out, you have some different box, maybe you'll find some things out that you didn't know about yourself, you know? But listen, sorry. Sorry for your loss.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Sorry. Well, Jay, I think you kind of confirmed Rosenberg. I think you kind of confirmed Rosenberg's point to a degree, which is the open relationship. He may learn things, she may learn things, and they may realize, hey, we have an amazing family. But you know what? That family's beautiful. This chapter's done. And now we want to go do other things.

[Ebro Darden]

She could also be dead wrong.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And yeah, that could Be the other.

[Ebro Darden]

The discovery could be the opposite. Was like, I went out with them, and, yeah, it was great set. Guys. I got bad news. I got bad news. There are guys who are both, but a lot of times the guys who satisfy them say, I wanted to have dinner with the guy. There's nothing to talk about. All I wanted to do was have sex with him. It's not that deep.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Could happen.

[Ebro Darden]

It could easily go. Her doing this version where, like, the guy came through and broke it off, and then when we sat down, he was the greatest conversationalist I've ever met. Could happen.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

And the woman could also be in a phase where she just wants to get dicked down.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. Because she's never experienced his life before.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

But it won't last. Like, if it does.

[Ebro Darden]

And if it does, this is going to be harsh. And you guys are going to be. Yell at me. If it does last. Where it's like, she just loves this sex so much, and that's it for you and your family. She's a loser. And you're. You're good for moving on.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All right?

[Ebro Darden]

But sorry if that.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

If that.

[Ebro Darden]

If you're an adult. No, they're in their 40s, and you decide at that stage in your life. I'm throwing it all away because sex is.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

It happens all the time.

[Ebro Darden]

People are losers out here. And you throw away a whole family for. For sex. Like, I get yo, bro.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Because their value systems messed up because they never had the experiences. Right? Like, that's it. That's really all that happens, is you think the grass is greener, you have something beautiful. You don't value this thing that you have, so you found something that's amazing. It's filling you up, literally and figuratively.

[Ebro Darden]

Come on, man.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Sorry. I had to. It's filling you up. And you think that that's the home run. And. But it's not really. People do it all the time. So people think getting. Making a billion dollars is the home run. And there's people I know that have gotten there, and they're like, yo, I just. Just want. I honestly, I just want health and a happy family because they got to taste the billion. And they. And they. And they disregarded something that was super simple that they had in front of them. Yeah, it happens all the time.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And I also see a world where they're just not in love anymore. And maybe they can just dedicate themselves to being great parents to their children.

[Ebro Darden]

But is it that? Yeah, maybe it's just interesting because he didn't say that. Right. He didn't seem to think that their love was gone. Just seemed like she had this. People really do confuse being in love and wanting some.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, that too.

[Ebro Darden]

They really. And I guess you're right. You, bro, I'm off. Because like my yo, Ibro and I like to talk about how long. Bro, I've been having sex for 30 some odd years, bro. And when I was a kid, I couldn't believe it was happening and it

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

was the most incredible one. And how long did it take?

[Ebro Darden]

I grew up.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Well, so. And it took me mad long. Right, Because I'm outside, so I'm experimenting and. And it. It took me mad long to just accept the fact that having sex with someone you actually love and care about is way better than randos.

[Ebro Darden]

Way better.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. But this person that we're talking about has never experienced.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

She never had it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Experience. You know what I mean? They don't know what the world one

[Ebro Darden]

day do they have. Did they. Do you remember if they said they had kids?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I don't remember. This was from Monday. Yeah, I don't remember.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I feel like they had. Yeah, I feel like I don't remember

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

what we talked about 30 minutes ago.

[Ebro Darden]

If there were kids though. And one day the story's gonna come out where it's like, what happened to mom and dad? It's like, well, they decided to start swinging. And then some darker complected fellows came in. Yo, neither of y' all look great, by the way. I just want to say neither of you guys are gonna be painted in glory in this story. So Mom.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Nah, he's not bad.

[Ebro Darden]

Nah, he got offended because they were dark.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Oh, right, right.

[Ebro Darden]

So it turned out dad had some. I don't know if dad was right, racist or just sexually insecure about black men. He had some weird Mandingo focus in his brain that like he was poisoned as a youth. And then mom, she was so obsessed with the dills. Oh, she needed more wood for the fire. That's gonna be your family story.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

No one man can satisfy her. She needs more wood for the fire. Yo, family down.

[Ebro Darden]

Grandma.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

That was Grandma, Listen, Grandma's great. Listen. People been out here throwing a choke for a long time. Barty. People, listen. Yo, man, that's a family Friday. Hopefully you enjoyed it. We didn't get to. We got mad emails, but we want more. We want your voice. Voice notes and videos.

[Ebro Darden]

Send them.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes, yes.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Please, please.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Pleasenberg Gmail.com.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

that's right. That's right. You know, I mean, it was a great show, great week. Shout out to everybody that locked in on the super chats and all the things Ebro. Laura Rosenberg will be back Monday, 8am I'm on the road next week, guys, so we're gonna figure it out. I'll be on the virtuals. I gotta be in LA doing some work. And so, yeah, we'll figure it out. Maybe we'll have some special guests. Perhaps some people sit in.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, yeah, let's work in to make it. Make some mix moves on it.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Or maybe it's just Ebron or it's just Laura and Rosenberg.

[Ebro Darden]

No, the. Too many. Too many Ebro man fans are going to be upset about that. And the woman. And the woman fans. What do you mean? No, the Ebro crowd will be.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Put that energy out there. No, somebody going to take this and run it up on the Internet and say Rosenberg's insecure. To just do the show with Rosenberg.

[Ebro Darden]

Breaking news. Rosenberg's insecure. Oh, maybe you should start a podcast about it, Lou.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

What were you saying just now?

[Ebro Darden]

We can get guests.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Yeah, we can get gas.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, okay. I don't know. Not what the Internet said.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Listen, we love y', all, man.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, and I'm on the road end of next week, too. I gotta get out there for. For our WrestleMania.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Is that ending next week?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, bro.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

WrestleMania already?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's going down.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Coachella's next week. WrestleMania's next week.

[Ebro Darden]

It's a situation. Is that something?

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

Just don't call it a podcast.

[Laura Rosenberg]

This is the powerful new single from Daughtry. It's called Antidote.

[Rosenberg (Co-host)]

I couldn't stop the rain when the hurricane was coming Couldn't keep the pace With a runaway train going off the tracks Looking back it's hard to watch the poise and take control when you don't knock the door.