84.) Chi Osse Arrest + FBI Investigations & Drunken Claims (4/23/26)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show

Episode 84: “Chi Osse Arrest + FBI Investigations & Drunken Claims”
Date: April 23, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg

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Episode Overview

This episode delivers the show's classic blend of cultural commentary, music discussions, political analysis, and community-focused debate. The hosts jump between pop-culture highlights (the Michael Jackson biopic, WrestleMania appearances), major political and legal headlines (the FBI, DOJ, Southern Poverty Law Center investigations), pressing community concerns (the arrest of Councilman Chi Osse and the deed theft crisis in Brooklyn), and the state of American politics and progressive media. The conversation is quick, opinionated, and steeped in both frustration and humor.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Pop Culture & Event Chat

• Michael Jackson Biopic and Tickets Frenzy ([03:12])
  • The team discusses challenges securing tickets for the new “Michael” movie, sharing stories of red carpet sightings (Nia Long, Wale, Chance the Rapper).
  • Quote (Ebro, 03:08):
    "I saw Nia Long, red carpet kind of stuff. Obviously she's in Michael. ...Wale—he went all the way. Gloves, socks, high water. Pants. He went ham on it."
• WrestleMania and Rapper Involvement ([04:19])
  • Shout-outs to Wale, Westside Gunn, Lil Yachty, and streamer IShowSpeed for their wrestling involvement.
  • IShowSpeed’s athleticism impresses, with a thread on how streamers now rival traditional entertainment productions.
  • Quote (Laura, 05:24):
    "Yachty got tossed around... took a headfirst thrown into the barricade."

2. The State of Streaming and New Media Personalities

• Discussion of how modern streamers (IShowSpeed, Kai Cenat, KSI, Logan Paul) have taken over cultural influence from older networks, and how their authenticity appeals to massive, young audiences.
• Debate whether figures like Hasan Piker are evolving into progressive civic influencers equal to Joe Rogan on the right ([35:19]).
  • Quote (Ebro, 35:19):
    "They're trying to say Hasan Piker is like the Joe Rogan of the left. That's... he is very left. He's not where everybody on the left is."

3. Political Satire: Trump’s America as “Unbelievable Script”

([14:06])

• Laura delivers a biting, satirical breakdown of the Trump-era cast of political characters: Trump, Fox News personalities, Elon Musk, and others, lampooning their rise to power and influence.
  • Quote (Laura, 14:06):
    "We've got an old pedophile reality TV show host... becomes President of the United States. ...A raging alcoholic Nazi from Faux News is Secretary of War. ...Elon Musk—a billionaire kinda like a drug addict... helps get the fraud elected."

4. DOJ & FBI: Southern Poverty Law Center Investigation

([20:45], [21:03])

• Breakdown of the federal investigation into the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) for allegedly funding informants within hate groups.
• Ebro points out the chilling similarity to Project 2025’s efforts to delegitimize anti-hate institutions.
  • Quote (Ebro, 21:03):
    "They're going to say no, you have been funding these groups and this stuff doesn't exist."
• The hosts critically examine the logic and political motivations behind such investigations.
  • Notable moment (Laura, 21:24):
    "They're claiming the Southern Poverty Law Center is behind the racist groups because they were paying informants—so therefore you’re funding it?"

5. FBI Director Kash Patel’s Drunken Claims and Outlandish Press Conference

([27:55])

• The crew reviews Patel’s combative denial of allegations regarding drunkenness and absenteeism, lampooning his repetitive, number-heavy rhetoric.
  • Quote (Kash Patel, 28:14):
    "I can say unequivocally that I never listen to the fake news mafia... What that means is this FBI, with this Department of Justice, has dropped the murder rate 20 points... seized enough fentanyl off the streets to kill 178 million Americans..."
  • Laura (re: the speech, 29:49):
    "Yo, you loser. First of all, why is your tie so big? ...He’s just making up numbers."
  • The hosts mock his talking points and criticize the media and political climate that enables such grandstanding.
  • Rosenberg adds, referencing FBI misuse:
    "He was sending FBI detail to his girlfriend's shows." ([30:21])

6. Redistricting in Virginia and John Fetterman Critique

([23:24])

• Laura explains the recent pro-Democrat redistricting win in Virginia, and the criticism from Senator John Fetterman, now viewed by the hosts as a "clown" and out of touch.
  • Quote (Ebro, 24:29):
    "This is why I get frustrated, because you got punched in the mouth, John Fetterman. The Democrats got punched in the mouth..."
• The hosts compare current and previous redistricting efforts and discuss long-term impacts.

7. The Crisis of Political Messaging and the Search for a Progressive “Rogan”

([35:19]–[42:45])

• Deep dive into why progressive media struggles to unite a broad electorate.
  • Ebro:
    "As a Democrat, you all know the Internet wants you to be socialist, leftist, progressive. ...What does the electorate want? ...That's where the Democrats are in trouble."
• Discussion of the pitfalls in seeking figureheads on the left, referencing personalities like Hasan Piker and Joe Rogan.
• Laura’s critique of Democrats’ tendency to chase perfection in their candidates.
  • Quote (Laura, 42:26):
    "If we really want someone to win a presidential election, it's probably not gonna be because the Rogan on the left likes that person. ...We may need idiots to win this election, guys."

8. Brooklyn’s Deed Theft & the Arrest of Councilman Chi Osse

([45:09]–[54:33])

• The show highlights Brooklyn Councilman Chi Osse’s arrest while defending Carmela Charrington, a Black homeowner fighting the deed theft of her multi-generational family brownstone.
  • Rosenberg:
    "She was fighting to not let these criminals, these thieves steal her home. And now she—because this is what the whole thing is—she’s now the one in trouble." ([46:29])
• They explain the mechanics of deed theft, its disproportionate impact on Black and Latino elders, and institutional failures that allow it.
  • Laura:
    "They're stealing millions. They're stealing your wealth. Right? Wealth. They're stealing wealth." ([52:38])
• Discussion broadens to the silence of politicians and city officials on the matter, and the risk of racial scapegoating as the crisis grows.
  • Ebro urges action:
    "Somebody say something. Don’t let this spiral out of hand where now it’s like Hasidic Jewish people are taking Black people’s homes in Brooklyn." ([51:51])

9. Advice Segment: The Gurus

([55:00]–[63:57])

• Listener writes in about the tension between pursuing a music career and honoring his wife’s wishes to avoid traveling for paid gigs.
• The hosts unpack whether the wife’s concerns are about trust, security, or other relationship dynamics, and urge clear communication and self-reflection.
  • Laura:
    "If y’all don’t [have kids] and she’s just, like, uncomfortable with you traveling...that’s a problem. And you definitely need to address that." ([63:43])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Laura’s Satirical Trump Script
  "If you tried to write this script and then pitch it, a studio would be like, that's really outlandish. I don't think anyone would go for that..." ([14:06])
• Laura, on Hasan Piker’s critique
  "People are mad at him because he lives in a $2.8 million house...You want him to live in a crappy house because you made a lot of money and you’re for the poor?” ([36:26])
• Ebro, on progressive organizing
  "You all are looking for somebody perfect...Well, you're looking for a perfect candidate, a perfect human being..." ([42:27])
• Rosenberg, on Brooklyn deed theft
  "She’s the only politician I’ve seen actively trying to help. ...Please send me stuff because I haven’t seen anyone else speak up.” ([50:46])
• Laura, on intergenerational homeownership
  "If you were lucky enough that your family had that, that is probably the financial crown jewel of your entire family." ([52:24])

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Important Timestamps

• 00:00–04:12: Ticket struggles for “Michael” biopic, Wale’s red carpet moment
• 04:19–06:07: Rapper/streamer wrestling crossovers, IShowSpeed’s stunts
• 14:06–16:19: Satirical “pitch” for Trump’s America, media absurdity
• 19:15–22:30: DOJ and FBI investigation into SPLC, Project 2025 warning
• 27:55–31:09: FBI Director Kash Patel’s press conference and hosts’ takedown
• 23:24–25:26: Virginia redistricting, criticism of John Fetterman
• 35:19–42:45: The left's “Joe Rogan” problem, Hasan Piker and the future of progressive media
• 45:09–54:33: Chi Osse’s arrest, Brooklyn deed theft outrage
• 55:00–63:57: The Gurus advice segment—marriage vs. dreams

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Tone & Language

The episode is fast-paced, irreverent, and candid. The hosts riff on both the seriousness of current events (legal, political, and social injustice) and the lighter moments of pop culture. They include sharp humor, explicit frustration, and empathetic concern for marginalized communities, always attributed to the speaker. Exchanges are energized and quick, keeping the conversation lively and pointed.

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Bottom Line Takeaways

• Systemic problems (from the DOJ targeting anti-hate groups to community wealth extraction in Brooklyn) are worsening, and public officials (and much of Gen Z) aren’t fully aware of or fighting back against these threats.
• Culture wars over “authenticity” (in streaming, music, or politics) mirror serious institutional gaps in American democracy and local governance.
• The show urges civic engagement, media skepticism, and a passionate defense of community—while keeping things bold, funny, and real.

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For Reference

• Redistricting maps discussed: Key states impacted (VA, TX, CA, OH, etc.)
• Chi Osse & Carmela Charrington case: Call for public support via GoFundMe
• FBI Press Conference: Patel’s defensive statements, denied intoxication allegations
• Hasan Piker and Internet Influence: No clear progressive alternative to mainstream right-wing figures

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Connect & Engage:

• X: @theelrshow
• TikTok: @ebrolaurarosenberg

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End of Summary

Transcript

[Ebro Darden]

Just don't call it a podcast. The Ebro Laura Rosenberg Show.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Did you like my rearranging of the. Of the buttons at the top?

[Ebro Darden]

Let me validate you. You did a great job.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Thank you. I thought it helped. It was hard to figure out how to do it, but we got it.

[Ebro Darden]

I still haven't figured out how to move them.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, it's hard as hell. I don't even know if I can explain to you how to do it again after doing it.

[Ebro Darden]

Wow.

[Laura Rosenberg]

We got it. We have a little order there. Yeah, there we go.

[Ebro Darden]

And color coded greens and blues. Ladies and gentlemen, it's Thursday and it's time to get to the weekend. Well, we got the Friday show tomorrow, which is family matters, and we encourage all of you to send videos. We got a couple of videos. I heard that one of my guys who I used to smoke weed in the station van with when I was on the come up and. Well, I wasn't really on the come up at that time. I already had a night show, but mid-90s. Taught him how to roll blunts. Heard he sent in a video.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Really?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, I'm excited to see this.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, no, it'll be good. And are you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Are you. Sorry to cut you off, but I want to ask, did you get your plans to see Michael this weekend?

[Ebro Darden]

I didn't.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Laura failed.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I'm a punt to the following weekend.

[Rosenberg]

Same. I have. I have my big prom drive this weekend, so I'm very.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, you're out. Okay. Yeah, I haven't.

[Ebro Darden]

And I just. I just screwed up with travel.

[Laura Rosenberg]

See how crazy these tickets are? I wonder how crazy it is.

[Ebro Darden]

I couldn't find any in the areas I normally go. Really?

[Rosenberg]

I need to get some. Oh, by the way, psa, public school teachers, or if you work with the youth, if you need prom dresses, please DM me and I'll give you my foundation email. I'll hook you up. Because I had a couple listeners that are teachers. Hit me up like, hey, can you hook me up? I'm like, absolutely. We have beautiful gowns, part of the Envision Foundation. So shoot me a dm.

[Ebro Darden]

Envision Fest coming back this year.

[Rosenberg]

It is. We're working on it. We're working very hard on it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So all the stuff you've been doing, though, is the continuation of the Envision Foundation.

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You're doing it all. Not with the assured knowledge that you're bringing back to festival.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But you're doing all the other stuff, which is the most important stuff.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, yes, yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And then the Hope is so the beauty of that is as long as you continue to do all the Envision foundation stuff you do, even if you didn't pull off the festival this year, you can always bring it back when it makes sense.

[Rosenberg]

I can, but it's like a thing that our community looks forward to. So you feel the pressure.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So what to do. You could always. By the way, you could always change the date if you need to. Yeah. You usually go, what, August?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, but because of the place that we are. That we've been at, because they give us the best price. Guys getting a space in New York City to throw in a. It is so expensive.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Sure. You beyond.

[Rosenberg]

So that's why we're kind of like. We're grateful that they're housing us for our two days. But it. It's expensive.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo.

[Rosenberg]

It's unlimited.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yo, Michael's out today.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, Tonight, Thursday night, mid Late show.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, yo, it's crazy. They keep making things earlier.

[Ebro Darden]

Wait, it's not just late shows. You could do, like, matinees today.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, like, can we go after this?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, you could. Well, if you weren't traveling, you could.

[Ebro Darden]

I got to catch a flight.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm seeing right now that at Lincoln center at Lincoln Square. Whatever it's called, the Theater at Lincoln center. They have a 105 today with.

[Ebro Darden]

With seats.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. Not great seats.

[Ebro Darden]

Not great seats. With seats. Yeah. Wow.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You could see it today. Although I want to try to go Saturday night

[Rosenberg]

by the early.

[Ebro Darden]

I want to see.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Let's see. Let's. Let's see. 745, Saturday night.

[Ebro Darden]

No way.

[Rosenberg]

Cooked.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Let's see.

[Ebro Darden]

They got anything, Michael?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Not bad. They're there, but they're bad.

[Ebro Darden]

That's no seats, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You can't. You can't take third row.

[Ebro Darden]

Third row in the front, looking up. No, I'm not doing it.

[Rosenberg]

Looking up his nostrils, though.

[Ebro Darden]

Not doing it.

[Rosenberg]

It sucks. Your neck's gonna hurt. We're old.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and also, too. I. You know, I saw. Who did I see? I saw so many people. I saw Nia Long red carpet kind of stuff. Because obviously she's in. Michael. They just had the premiere this week. Wale.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Did you see Wale dressed up?

[Ebro Darden]

That was dope. I saw Chance, the rappers, you know, he was there. These guys are, you know, real. Real big Michael fans. You know what I'm saying? They grew up on this.

[Rosenberg]

So dope.

[Ebro Darden]

And I love to see when artists get to fan out for something.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And they're really, you know, while they went all the way. Gloves, socks, high water. Pants.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He did a nice job.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, Luke, can you find that photo? We should have shot our guy Wale. He went ham on it. He went far.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It looked really good. It was fun to see Wale be so fun.

[Rosenberg]

Right?

[Laura Rosenberg]

He leaned in.

[Ebro Darden]

He's in a great space right now.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, he is. He seems very happy and he leaned in. He's not in on wrestling though. No Mania this year for Wale. I missed him.

[Ebro Darden]

Wale Mania.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No Wale Mania and no wrestlemania.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, there's been a fallout. Right. Westside Gun Wale a lot.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's unrelated those.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I was just going to say these rappers that used to kind of be around WrestleMania gun has his own

[Laura Rosenberg]

thing that he's spoken about some with WWE Wale. I don't know exactly what the deal is, but Wale just. I know he wasn't around and I know Wale Mania did not happen.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I thought I heard that it was just such a heavy lift and underappreciated, you know what I mean? It was just kind of like I'm doing this, it was a lot and I'm bringing people out and wrestlers are excited, fans are excited and I can't get embraced by the.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's how the mothership. That's how I think he. He felt about it. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

The.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I will say this though, shots to little Yachty who did his thing. Great to see Yachty. Yachty got physically involved, by the way.

[Rosenberg]

Really?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yachty got tossed around. Yachty got thrown. Yachty took a head first. Thrown into the barricade.

[Ebro Darden]

Whoa, that's big. That's big.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Flipped over.

[Ebro Darden]

Not. I mean. And Yachty shout to you. That's big. Not as big as I show. Speed off the top, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That splash, that kid, I only saw him for one second.

[Ebro Darden]

And by the way, I just want to point out we're talking about WrestleMania again.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But speed is impressive, man. Yeah, that kid physically is a freak.

[Ebro Darden]

He trains, man. He trains.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But it's natural too.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it is. But I think he used to run track or something. Like he had some sort of athletic.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Background and then became a streamer. But he's been streaming since he was young. Young like 12, I think.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But yeah, since young. Young. But like his how literally fast he is and his ability to jump and I'll be very brief, I promise. The way that they brought him into the storyline with Logan Paul and Austin Theory was so funny because they made him. They put him with the heels, Logan and Austin Theory the bad guys. But he was like, he didn't mean to End up with them. So it was so on brand for him. So he's like reluctantly now tagging with the bad guys but he's like no, I don't, I don't want to be here. I don't how do. And they're like lifting his arm up and now he's with. Then in the end he accidentally cost the bad guys the match. And then when the match was over, Logan Paul beat his ass. Yeah and so now they'll have their some sort of. Because they've been making money, you know. What was the other one's name?

[Ebro Darden]

Kaiser.

[Rosenberg]

Not.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, not Kaisenat. What was the other one who boxed Logan? I show speed. Who was the other? Boxing streamer.

[Rosenberg]

Boxing streamer.

[Ebro Darden]

Who's down with Logan?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Paul too. He has anyways whose name I'm blanking on. But yeah, these guys have all been making money together for a long time.

[Ebro Darden]

Well if you listen to this week's Patreon we spend time talking about streamers and production and like you know how you know there's these major, major productions that put a lot of effort into it and then there's these streamers who are just in their bedroom who are making more money than the major productions.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's, it's, it's crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

But I think that speaks to people wanting to have you know, feel like something's really authentic and unpackaged and isn't

[Laura Rosenberg]

it funny now that these guys that we're talking about are practically the legends of it. Yeah, they're like the now old timey have been doing this for a while at 20.

[Ebro Darden]

How old's I show speak? 26.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, no, no, he's a kid.

[Rosenberg]

He's still very, very young.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He's still very young. I think he might be 20.

[Ebro Darden]

Paul brothers are in their 30s there.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I think Logan's around 30.

[Ebro Darden]

30 Kaiser knots. What? 24. He doesn't even stream anymore. He said I'm making clothes now. And he's doing his whole journey to make clothes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I need, I need to get this guy's friggin I Show speed is 21.

[Ebro Darden]

21.

[Laura Rosenberg]

21 is crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo. His Africa run the other other month was well that's what, that's what loved it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's what turned me on. Isow Speed, he's going to the Caribbean next.

[Ebro Darden]

Doing the Caribbean next.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He's going to the Caribbean next. I, I had never really bringing black

[Ebro Darden]

people together, building bridges.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I never understood the speed thing. And then I started seeing the Africa highlights and like getting like what his kind of like Cause you know, he always had that look on his stream of like surprise, confusion and surprise. I'm like, what is it with this kid?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I tell you what though, with I show Speed, like you brought up his athleticism. The, his athletic abilities and talents and doing stunts and things is far beyond just sitting around just talking about stuff to talk about. What do you mean? Well, like it's real.

[Laura Rosenberg]

KSI was the other guy.

[Ebro Darden]

KSI? Yeah, shout out to KSI. He was with. I learned about him with Kai and actual Speed. They've been running together well.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And Logan Paul and KSI own prime together.

[Ebro Darden]

Got it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Which has made them like hundreds of millions of dollars.

[Ebro Darden]

Stupid money. But I show Speed is talented. Like he has God given physical talents. Physical talents that make some of the things that he's doing when he pops up in these countries and he's, you know, racing someone, learning to do a new thing. What you know, he learns actual stuff. Stuff. Yeah, and it's almost like a stuntman. Did you ever see, he's like, you know, what was the guy? Super Dave.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Super yo, you know how old you are?

[Rosenberg]

So old.

[Ebro Darden]

Y' all remember Super Dave?

[Laura Rosenberg]

You know, you know who Super Dave was, right?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

On Curb youb Enthusiasm. No, Funkhouser.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Super Dave is Funk, who passed away a couple years ago. But that was Super Dave, which is crazy. But do you ever see when Speed took the spear from Bron Breakker in the rumble two years ago?

[Ebro Darden]

No.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Your man is very brave, bro. He took a spear from a pro wrestler in a way that. It's one of those moves that.

[Ebro Darden]

But how did we get back to wrestling? Speed, you can't help yourself.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It was a big week. I was on the red carpet at the hall of Fame. By the way, we never talked about this all week. You guys know I interviewed Dennis Rodman on the hall of Fame red carpet.

[Ebro Darden]

Why didn't you send him video? Why don't you send in a photo? Louie, you didn't see that I did that. Why? Interesting. In video, you look at me or Louie, you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Cuz it should go to Louie at that point if he saw that I did it.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, not taking accountability. Like he doesn't have enough study. Doing reports. He's posting every day. He's making sure there's edits.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He should be like, bask him. Yo, Rosenberg talked to Dennis Rodman. We should throw this in the show.

[Ebro Darden]

I mean, I like what you're saying, but why didn't Griff do it?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I should have done it, you know, I should have told Everybody.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, now you keep it for Griff. You didn't want Griff to get the blame. I see you. I'm watching you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You.

[Ebro Darden]

You sent a picture of Triple X and, and some blonde lady with a. With a belt we never seen before.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Wait, Triple H?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, my God.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That was Ria Ripley.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I saw Ria. I know Ria now, right? And I know Lemon Pepper Steppers.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Trick Williams.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, yeah, I know to him.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But anyways, I saw Dennis Rodman on the red carpet, cuz he was going into the WWE hall of Fame. And I interviewed him quickly. There's a lot going on there. And also not a lot. Also not going hot.

[Ebro Darden]

Take.

[Rosenberg]

Wait, so tell me a little bit about.

[Ebro Darden]

That's it. That's the whole story.

[Rosenberg]

That's it.

[Ebro Darden]

He looks like Dennis Rodman guy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, but it's more than looks like Dennis Rodman. I mean, talking to him, there's just. It just feels like. It's just. Yeah, it just feels like, you know,

[Ebro Darden]

say, like, I don't know, what are we doing here?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't know.

[Rosenberg]

I can't stand whenever it does that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I know, I know.

[Rosenberg]

I want to hear from you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Thank you. I'm just saying. I'm just saying in talking to him up close and personal, I was just like, wow, what's going on? I can't really follow what you're saying, sir. Like, I'm trying to interview.

[Ebro Darden]

Have you seen him do an interview? Well, you may not have seen him do an interview.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No. Well, the last dance was like the last thing I really saw with him. And he was pretty. But maybe he's a guy who gets nervous on camera, live. I don't. I don't know. But he was. Louie, you saw any of his speech? His induction speech? Now he's an interesting cat, Dennis. And he looks very interesting in person too, also. I'm gonna hit you with another one. This is Ebro. Get ready. I'm gonna jump all the way off the ledge. Dennis Rodman. He's tall, bro. What?

[Ebro Darden]

What? No, stop.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Nice. Tall bro. Nah, Dennis Robin's tall, bro. I stood right next to him. He's. That's a big guy.

[Ebro Darden]

Hilarious.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He's a big. He's a big gentleman, that Dennis Robin.

[Ebro Darden]

I never even thought.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Have you met him before?

[Ebro Darden]

Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Did you get. Did you get it? You didn't have enough time to get any energy?

[Ebro Darden]

I wasn't trying.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You didn't try to see what he's going on? He lived a life though, that Dennis Robin.

[Ebro Darden]

No, Dennis Rodman lived a life and

[Laura Rosenberg]

he went to Korea.

[Ebro Darden]

No, he did a lot. He did a lot. People forget that Kim Jong Un.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He went to North Korea as a guest of Kim Jong Un.

[Rosenberg]

Crazy.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Now he went to North Korea, guys. He did it while no one else would or could. He just went and hung out with Kim Jong Un. He left the bullets.

[Ebro Darden]

Didn't Trump did a thing? No. Didn't they go to, like, the. The border and, like, see each other? Yeah, people forget that happened.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They shook hands, right?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, he went. Trump went to North Korea, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, they spent.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, Trump has done so much. That's the other part. As much as he's a terrible president, when. This is one.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You got a clip. You want to see?

[Ebro Darden]

There was this one thing I put aside. I don't know if it's in here, about. Oh, clip nine. Watch this.

[Laura Rosenberg]

More craziness from Donald Trump, you said.

[Ebro Darden]

No, no, no. This is just. I just want you guys to watch, okay?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Like, if you tried to write this script and then pitch it, a studio would be like, that's really outlandish. I don't think anyone would go for that. But here's what the pitch would be. Okay, you ready? We've got an old pedophile reality TV show host who was big into real estate and got all his money from his daddy, but ripped off all his contractors and was sued constantly because he never paid anybody. Guess what? He becomes the President of the United States. Okay, I'll keep going. We've got a raging alcoholic who is a Nazi, who is dying for a religious war, who happened to be a Faux News host, and he is the Secretary of Defense, but we're going to change it to Secretary of War.

[Ebro Darden]

What do you think?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Here's a kicker. We have this character, right? We're calling him Elon Musk, who is like this billionaire, but he's kind of like a drug addict. He helps get the reality TV show host, con man, fraud, pedophile, elected by. With satellites that are floating around in space, and he helps get him elected. And he's also really close with another character named Vladimir Putin, who is the president of Russia. And so all this is going on, and then we have, you know, like, almost half.

[Rosenberg]

Ish.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Part of the country loves this idea, right? And so it goes on, and America just becomes a shitole country and everything is destroyed. And there's other characters, of course, too. But what do you think so far? Why is he looking both directions like that, never at the camera? It really freaked me out that.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I think that was him selling it to the boardroom.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, he's talking to the boardroom. Got it, got it, got it. By the way, and that wasn't even a good pitch of the story. It could be. Do that so much better.

[Ebro Darden]

You think you could do it better?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I think the Trump story is way crazier than that. I mean, I know that's making it more sensational by you just call Trump pedophile and hegseth Nazi. Both are aggressive descriptions of things that are alleged. But the overall story of Trump. Did you ever see the movie in the end?

[Ebro Darden]

Which movie?

[Laura Rosenberg]

The Trump movie.

[Rosenberg]

I didn't.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's there for you. I mean, the movie's great. And you go, oh my God. It kept going from here. Because the movie. What was the movie called again? Yeah, the Trump movie from like two years ago with our guy from succession who plays Roy Cohn.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You watch it and you go, this guy ends up becoming president. It's just insane when, when you see how it started for Trump.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

With the real estate. Because in the movie, you know, they have him in court fighting the racism charges from the cause.

[Ebro Darden]

He wouldn't rent to black people.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Because he wouldn't rent to black people. They have all of that stuff in there very early. They have his desperation to please his parents and his dad, you know, and his parents coming to the opening of Trump Tower and his dad sort of still being like, like, like no matter what Trump did, his dad, who by all accounts sounds like a terrible guy.

[Ebro Darden]

You mean the KKK member allegedly.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. Or no, he was a KKK member

[Ebro Darden]

or a financier or something.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. Went to him, whatever, bad guy. And obviously was terrible to Trump as a kid who was always just trying to please his dad as much as he could. But no matter what Trump did, his dad just thought he was like a low class fake version of him. Cuz Fred Trump, you know, was a pretty big deal in real estate and thought of himself as the important one and his son is like the cheap huckster that he. That he basically was. Anyways, it's a crazy. It is an insane story. And this guy's president.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't even know what hag says story is prior to the Fox News. I don't know how he got to the. Oh, it's military. I know. He was Marines, I believe. I don't know how Hegseth got to Fox News Fox News weekend host. But if he hadn't been a weekend host on Fox News, Trump wouldn't have ever known who he was.

[Ebro Darden]

He's not on his radar.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, that's literally just because that's what Trump does on the weekend, is he never stops watching tv.

[Ebro Darden]

He was National Guard. National Guard. Wait, so he was never in actual. In the Marines. Army. Navy.

[Rosenberg]

Really?

[Ebro Darden]

Marines, Army, National Guardsman.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I didn't know a National Guardsman.

[Rosenberg]

Okay, okay.

[Ebro Darden]

To the head of the department or the.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Don't you think we should, by the way, shouldn't we have been a little bit more immediately aware that we were going to war when they changed the name of it to the department?

[Ebro Darden]

No, people were. That was a.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That was a thing.

[Ebro Darden]

That was a thing.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I just remember being, like, offended by it, but I don't remember being like, oh, I guess we're going to war.

[Ebro Darden]

That was a thing on. On the Internet, which, I mean, it's just people pontificating.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

Until it becomes real with all of this stuff, it's just people yapping like us, until it becomes a thing. How often have we yapped about something? Constantly. And it became a thing.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's part of what makes it so hard to keep track of what's going on, because all we can do is yap about it because there's so much

[Rosenberg]

stuff all the time and there's always a new headline.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right? So.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, like this one. You have the CNN clip we put in just a little bit ago. We supposed to run this yesterday. The Department of Justice has levied a investigation. You have it.

[Rosenberg]

So I've never seen a case quite like this here. The Southern Poverty Law center, which is a nonprofit civil rights group, was indicted on federal fraud charges. The Justice Department is alleging that this group gave money to enforce informants who then infiltrated groups affiliated with the KKK or the Nazis, for example. Now, the Southern Poverty Law center said it did have an informant program for a time, and they used it to monitor threats and often share what they learned with law enforcement. But the crux of the federal case argues that they were fundraising off of a promise to dismantle hate groups, and then they would turn around and give money to those same groups. And they're arguing that was part of this alleged fraud. But in a statement, the Southern Poverty Law center defends its work, saying taking on violent hate and extremist groups is among the most dangerous work there is. And we believe it is also among the most important work we do. To be clear, this program saved lives. During a press conference Tuesday, the acting attorney general, Todd Blanche, who is joined by FBI Director Kash Patel, he said that this investigation into the Southern Poverty Law center will be ongoing, by the way.

[Ebro Darden]

This was, this is all Project 2025 stuff. So you know where this goes, the setup for this. So they're going to say the Southern Poverty Law center, which started in 1971, which sole purpose was to figure out how to dismantle white supremacist groups in the United States.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

They're going to say, no, you have been funding these groups and this stuff doesn't exist.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Ebro Darden]

And so you are propping this stuff up, funding it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They're claiming that the Southern Poverty Law center is behind.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

The racist groups because they were paying informants. So therefore you're funding it.

[Ebro Darden]

And the Southern Poverty Law center is basically saying, no, that's how you do the informant thing. Like, that's how you. That's literally how you get information.

[Rosenberg]

And they shared it with the police, by the way.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, because then at a certain point, the Southern Poverty Law Center's got to turn the Department of Justice and go, doesn't the FBI do that? Doesn't the CIA do that?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, they're going to come for everyone. Acl, ACLU is going to be next. Watch.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and so remember, remember when this most recent administration started for Trump, didn't they just get rid of all of the investigation and the, and the discrimination of. Yeah, like, that's not it. Like, who do you talk to at the federal government if you're dealing with discrimination? That's gone. Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Because if you care about that, that's like, that's dei. That's part of their DEI breakdown. Because they call everything dei.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

So they're gonna say the white supremacist groups don't exist. It's made up by the Southern Poverty Law Center. You don't have a. An investigative arm to investigate anything and hold this stuff accountable. And then what? Just how. What happens now

[Rosenberg]

you also be surprised, guys, like, how little, like Gen Z knows about the kkk. How dark. You know, like how dark it really is. They just kind of feel like, yeah, it's like a hate group from the South. Right. Like you ever read and going to detail the whole teaching that they did,

[Ebro Darden]

but that's why they don't teach it.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Can you get the cat at that same press conference? Can you get me. I forgot to send it. I apologize. Cash Patel going at the reporter. I need that. Rosenberg's got it. Have you seen this? You gotta see this. I need you to examine what this person says. I don't know if anybody has taken the time to go through what he alleges. He has accomplished with the FBI. I'm sure someone has. But I need you, Rosenberg and Laura. Have you seen it?

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, Laura, I need you to break this. I need. I need you guys paying attention. We'll come back to that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

While we're looking for that or getting that, we didn't talk much about the redistricting win in Virginia.

[Ebro Darden]

That was gonna be the silver lining of all of this chaos.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay. Is that, that's.

[Ebro Darden]

That was where I was gonna go next after the Cash Patel, but we don't have the Cash Patel, so let's do it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So. Yeah, so. So they did this redistricting in Virginia, which apparently is going to work out favorably for the good guys, Democrats and four seats, and that'll be a four seat gain in theory in Virginia. Now, I saw that former Democrat, current lunatic who probably is unfit to be serving still John Fetterman.

[Rosenberg]

Oh God, what a clown.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Was unhappy with this, saying that this is like not good for anyone in the long run. Which on paper, I read it and I immediately go, well, you've lost your mind and you're always wrong on everything.

[Ebro Darden]

But.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But then I thought, well, is he saying that this will just go the other way and Republicans will be able to knife.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, so Republicans already did it, but

[Laura Rosenberg]

they already been doing it. Right.

[Ebro Darden]

This is a response.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Take your time.

[Ebro Darden]

This is why I get frustrated, because you got punched in the mouth, John Fetterman. The Democrats got punched in the mouth. You helped them get punched in the mouth.

[Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Ebro Darden]

Right. Because you're a senator and you have been doing nothing. No, actually voting against and voting against and not even wearing your hoodie anymore. You don't even be wearing your hoodie.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Like, he doesn't.

[Ebro Darden]

I see him in suits now, so I can't really. I've seen him in suits a couple of times.

[Rosenberg]

Nasty suits.

[Ebro Darden]

Remember the whole reason people went for him was because it was like, oh, he's wearing hoodies and you know, he doesn't care. He's just gonna go up there and wear hoodies.

[Rosenberg]

Not a politician, a human being.

[Ebro Darden]

He's a regular human being. Now. Look at him.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Another. Another weirdo, non Jewish Zionist lunatic.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, really? He's on that too?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Wait, you didn't know that? No, that was the beginning of his turn.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I miss all. I didn't see.

[Laura Rosenberg]

How did you miss. What's Yo Ebro Zalgo. Who's running that? I got to talk to Ibro's. Yeah, he was, He's. He's hardcore pro Israel on everything. And Jewish. No, another one. I know his name's Federman. It sounds like he could be Jewish, but he's like, six, eight also, so it's complicated to figure him out. I don't.

[Ebro Darden]

But at any rate. At any rate, this is a response, what with California voting for redistricting and Virginia voting for redistricting. Who else? There was, I think one or two

[Laura Rosenberg]

more

[Ebro Darden]

that were doing. But at any rate, this is a response to Texas.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right. So this is a bad.

[Ebro Darden]

And by the way, Texas didn't do it with a vote.

[Rosenberg]

No, they just did it.

[Ebro Darden]

They just did it. They didn't even allow the population of the state to vote. So, John Fetterman, who are we worried about in the long run? Like, what are we even talking about? The long. We don't even have a long run. What long run?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Where's the run? Long.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All right, so the redistricting so far looks like this. Texas would be plus five for Republicans, California plus five for Democrats. Utah, plus one for Democrats. Missouri plus one for Republicans. It's even so far to you and me.

[Rosenberg]

Mm.

[Laura Rosenberg]

North Carolina, plus one Republican. Ohio plus one Democrat, plus two Republicans. Virginia plus four Democrats. So it sounds like a slight gain for Democrats in all of this so far.

[Rosenberg]

Right now.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So far.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll see.

[Ebro Darden]

Do you have the cash Patel, sir? Not yet.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's all. It's all just.

[Rosenberg]

Is this where he's, like, suing the Atlantic or. Who's he suing?

[Ebro Darden]

He's suing the Atlantic Cash Patel, the director of the FBI, for these allegations of his drinking.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I just got an email back. Remember the other day I told you guys that when I was at WrestleMania, I saw Maria, who works for WWE, who was like, where are you guys? I miss you so much. And I was like, maria, we're still on every day. And she was like, what? See, she wrote me. I wrote her, and I said, were you able to listen yet? Great seeing you. And she wrote back, yes, thank you so much, in all caps. And I see you have grif. Now you need Shawnee and cast one.

[Ebro Darden]

No mention of Louis and Rahsaan. Terrible. Come on, Maria.

[Rosenberg]

Maria.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They weren't as out front.

[Ebro Darden]

Nameless. No, I know. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. And now Laura and Rosenberg, I present.

[Rosenberg]

I can't.

[Ebro Darden]

The director of the FBI.

[Rosenberg]

I do want to give you an opportunity to respond directly to the allegations in the Atlantic article that your unexplained absences created a national security risk. And beyond that, can you say definitively that you have not been intoxicated or absent during your tenure as FBI director.

[FBI Director Kash Patel]

I can say unequivocally that I never listen to the fake news mafia. And as when they get louder, it just means I'm doing my job. This FBI director has been on the job twice as many days as every director before me. What that means is I've taken half as many days off as those before me. What that means is I've taken a third less vacation than those before me. What that means is that this FBI, with this Department of Justice has dropped the murder rate 20 points. What that means is this FBI, with this Department of Justice, has captured eight of the top 10 most wanted fugitives in the world, twice as many as the Biden administration did in its entire four years. What that means is this FBI has seized enough fentanyl off the streets to kill 178 million Americans, a 31% increase. What that means is this FBI and this DOJ has arrested 43% more spies in 14 months in the entirety of the Biden administration. What that means is this FBI has seen a reduction in opioid overdose deaths up to 20% alone. What that means is that we have found 6,300 child victims. 6,300 families have their kids. That is a 22% increase from the Biden administration. I'm on the job. I'm the first one in. I'm the last one out. I'm like an everyday American who loves his country, loves the sport of hockey, and champions my friends when they raise a gold medal and invite me in to celebrate. I've never been intoxicated on the job. And that is why we filed a $250 million defamation lawsuit. And any one of you that wants to participate, bring it on. I'll see you in court, bro.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I. Yo, you loser. First of all, why is your tie so big? Do you see the width of that tie, Brawley? Yo, what that means is we got to start doing that more.

[Ebro Darden]

What that means is.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, we got to do what that means is. And what that means is because he's just making up numbers. He said it.

[Ebro Darden]

He said they enough fentanyl off the street that would have killed 178 million Americans. So we have a population of 340 million people.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I know we have a fentanyl problem in this country.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes, but half the population was going to die from fentanyl.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's really a big epidemic. I knew it was an epidemic, but

[Rosenberg]

my Lord, bro, this bozo was sending, like, FBI detail to his girlfriend's. Like his girlfriend is like a up and coming country singer. He sends FBI agents with her to her.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. But what that means is, is that she's safe when she goes to shows. And what that means is that they're safe when they watch hockey together. Because he loves hockey.

[Ebro Darden]

And you know what that means is? What? Hockey's great when it's on tv.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. What that means is, is that he was only drunk when we saw him pounding beers with the US Hockey team. And what that means is he was only gone for a few days when he went across the world to celebrate Team USA playing hockey.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and what that means is, is you're really triggered by this allegation that you have unexplained absences.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. And what that means is, when you protest that much is that they're usually on to something.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Wow. And what that means is.

[Ebro Darden]

I know you guys would enjoy that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, that was crazy. He just started going off.

[Ebro Darden]

And that's the same process. That's the same press conference where they were talking about the Southern property lawsuit. Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Wow.

[Rosenberg]

How many times have you seen a clip of Congress grilling him, asking him to basic things about budget? And he's like, I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet. I don't know. I don't have an answer. And they're like, these are basic things,

[Ebro Darden]

Rosenberg, before I'm gonna come back to you, so I need you. Whatever you were just feeling right there, hold on to it. Laura, you got the rundown. What are you cooking up today? What are you working on?

[Rosenberg]

I was just looking at a little bit of drama. You know, Kylie Jenner's, like, housekeeper is coming for her.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

And religion is part of that allegation.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Huh.

[Rosenberg]

So I'll tell you what happened with

[Ebro Darden]

that, is that now, well, after, I wanna do that, after, I wanna know where you're at with your belief in the positive possibilities of the United States of America.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I'm sorry, you wanna know where I'm standing right now in terms of this whole thing works out?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That the plane lands.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And that we survive as a country.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I am worried at this moment. I've been a little worried about. I think midterms will go well.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Laura Rosenberg]

What I worry about with that is that will motivate the Republicans further to do whatever stuff they need to do. A, to permanently damage the country, and B, to prepare to steal the general. The presidential election two years after that. Okay, then what I'm worried about and what that means is I'm also worried about all these conversations they keep having about Kamala and who's going to be the Democrat. That worries me. I don't feel like we're close to having anyone yet, and we're two years

[Ebro Darden]

in and it shouldn't be Kamala.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, sorry.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Everybody thought it was going to be Gavin, but he's not.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And by the way, hit me with that, because I thought, congratulations, you played. I loved how he started, like, he was being aggressive and on the offense and what happened?

[Ebro Darden]

Why did he fall apart?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I just don't feel like he stands for anything at this point. Like, I don't know what the thing is he stands for. He just seems like a polished up politician at this point.

[Rosenberg]

People were turned off at. I believe he was on somebody's podcast. I don't remember, but they were turned off that he basically was making jokes about the LGBTQ community, as in regards to the pronouns. Like, he would just be like, yeah, you know, like, I was still trying to get used to it. I still don't understand it. But the way he was, like, saying it was people took it as he was mocking it a little bit.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Got it.

[Rosenberg]

So people are not happy about that. And the whole trans people in sports, they weren't happy about his answers.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, that. He's not like, yes, yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And then also Israel. And I believe that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, you had that bad day on Rachel and Van's podcast when he kept saying, that's interesting. What about aipac? And he's like, that's interesting. I never really thought about it like that. That's interesting. He got, like, crushed for that. It does seem like he's coming further away. Like we talked about the other day, he seems to be distancing himself from Israel and aipac, but originally that's not where he stood. Now we'll see where he lands when we get closer to the election. But in general, you add it all up, it just doesn't sound like it's galvanizing everybody.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and as a Democrat, As a Democrat, y' all know the Internet. The Internet wants you to be socialist, leftist, progressive.

[Laura Rosenberg]

At least the Internet does.

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

What does the electorate want?

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know. I'm not a pollster. I don't know. And I think that's where the Democrats are in trouble.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Figuring splitting the difference or figuring out the Internet.

[Ebro Darden]

We don't. Once again, we don't know who's real, who's fake, who's fooling. That's the type of shit I Hate.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes. That is the type of shit that I hate. Yeah. Because they're. And for example, they're trying to say that, like, Hasan Piker is like the Joe Rogan of the left. And that's where all the left is, bro. That's. He is very left. He is not where everybody on the left is.

[Rosenberg]

You know, I've been asking a couple of friends of mine that are creators that are in politics.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

I was like, so what do you think? They're like, oh, Hassan Piker.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay, what's the problem?

[Rosenberg]

So everything that I've heard so far is his anti black comments.

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, I heard about that.

[Rosenberg]

Well, it's like he has no regard for the black community that he. I guess at some point in his dreams, like, I don't care what black people care about. Or I don't, you know, I'm. I'm not quoting him, by the way. I'm just saying.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, no, I know, I know.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. So they, they have a big problem. They say he's rich, that the white liberals are pushing him and that he. But because the white liberals are pushing them, they are okay with him ignoring the needs of the black community and that he has had anti black statements.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I know very little. I'm trying to learn about Hasan Piker.

[Rosenberg]

Me too.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I know very little. I think he is someone who. His stuff is not super race based. It is super, like policy against the rich for the poor based. Although then people are mad at him because he lives in a $2.8 million house, which, like, that's the one piece I would say, yo, this man has made a ton of money streaming. He's been streaming his for 10 years. Whatever. He's made a ton of money. He lives in a nice house. I don't. People want you to live in a crappy house, I guess, because you made a lot of money and you're for the poor.

[Ebro Darden]

So they like. I guess what's in my brain is he is just like Joe Rogan. He's a talker, he's a podcaster, he's a streamer. He has no. Like, when people are like, they don't like that. He's, you know, what did you. The verbiage you use. They don't like that he has disregard for the black community. Is that what you said? And their needs.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

He can't meet the black community's needs.

[Rosenberg]

But I think it was a streamer. Yeah. Because he's been dismissive.

[Ebro Darden]

And by the way, I think that's a valid critique. He's not running for office.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, and also the thing. Sorry, go ahead.

[Rosenberg]

But I think that the guys that I was talking to, they feel that he's setting himself up to do for run.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, guess what? I don't think he's going to win if he does. But.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And, and also, just like, Joe Rogan

[Ebro Darden]

ain't winning if he does.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But also, I think. I don't know what if Joe Rogan will win. Yes, Joe Rogan reached a lot of people, but he wouldn't win. But.

[Ebro Darden]

But Kanye west reached a lot of people.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah, he did.

[Ebro Darden]

When it comes time.

[Laura Rosenberg]

How do you do, though? Kanye did pretty good in the election.

[Ebro Darden]

No, he didn't.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, real quick, though. There was a thought, and I understood this thought of who's going to be the Joe Rogan on the left? And now I'm like, do we need a Joe Rogan on the left? Is that what is needed to really help things?

[Ebro Darden]

I don't know. It's so weird, man.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's so weird.

[Ebro Darden]

It's so weird. And the reason I use the word weird is because it's like, can we talk about what the work is that needs to be done? Can that happen?

[Laura Rosenberg]

And for the record, because just like

[Ebro Darden]

the other day when I was annoyed by, like, yeah, you know, I like a politician that looks like I want to have a beer with him and a burger and.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But that.

[Ebro Darden]

We're talking about Hasan Piker. Like, correct.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But no, no, but your whole thing about the I want to have a beer thing, that was the same feeling I had yesterday when you were like, everyone internationally loves Mom Donnie. It's the same thing. They mostly love him because he's a guy they think seems cool.

[Ebro Darden]

But that's why I was saying it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, got it. I didn't take it as you putting it in the same.

[Ebro Darden]

No, I'm putting it in, like, yeah,

[Laura Rosenberg]

everyone thinks they're so cool.

[Ebro Darden]

Great. It's great. But there is the part where Mom Donnie's transparent about work. And even when we showed the clip the other day, he's like, look, I'm not talking about president. I'm talking about potholes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Two separate things. I really like Mom Donnie. I'm a Mom Donnie guy. And also a lot of people just like. Because he seems cool. Yes, both can be true.

[Ebro Darden]

And also, I thought that was your point on saying, yes, he's great. That's because when you get both, where it's like, oh, this person is only talking about policy. Every time I see them, they are focused on their message, their policy, and what they're trying to get done for the job. They have the noise around them. Is all this other. He's cool, he's good looking. I like his beard.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's why he. That's why he crushed Scott Stringer. Wasn't Stringer the one we liked or was it Lander? Which one we like more? Stringer.

[Ebro Darden]

We both. I think we both were like, they're

[Laura Rosenberg]

both could be good at the job, I think. I think Stringer. We thought we really liked his policy, but he didn't have any of the charm to go with it.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So he didn't have a chance.

[Rosenberg]

Awesome social media team.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Well, but.

[Ebro Darden]

But also, like, that's why people, I think, to some regard, loved Obama. He checked the cool boxes. But when you sat down and talked to him, he knew how to talk and be about policy, the message and staying on it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And I will say that whole talking thing is really important. The reason Mom Donnie, the reason I was bummed out yesterday when I was reminded that mom Donnie can't run for president is because he can talk, bro. He went on Adam Friedland's podcast and did an hour. He goes on this one and does an hour. There's a real thought from a lot of people, you can agree or disagree, that Kamala did not go on Rogan because they didn't. Her team didn't feel comfortable. Comfortable with her freewheeling for two hours. Not in her bag. To just be like, now Trump does it. Doesn't know anything about policy, but he's a master rambler. He will ramble you to death on a million things. He will filibuster you for an hour.

[Ebro Darden]

And Kamala may laugh at some things and act too chummy. Chummy. And now it's like, you're cool with Joe. You're up there laughing and giggling. But, you know, her laugh was a problem. Hillary not laughing enough. Too serious. We don't like her. She seems like a bitch. Right, Kamala, why you laughing and being nice to everybody, man? Yeah, what's your problem, man?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Why you here? To have a good time, man. But I don't know. I don't. I don't need a Joe Rogan on the left. Frankly, this isn't gonna be appealing. And I'll probably just get roasted, as always. If we really want to find someone to win a presidential election, it's probably not gonna be because the Rogan on the left likes that person. It's probably gonna be because Rogan himself likes that person. And I know no one wants to hear that cuz that does Rogan. I am not a Rogan guy. Never have been, never will be. He's not a strict right winger. That's not what he is. You're miss watching what he does if you think he's a strict right winger. He's an idiot on certain things. And he's progressive on certain things. I think the Democrats need to find a candidate like Bernie who was getting people like that. I hate to say this. We may need idiots to win this election, guys. If only the smart people like the candidate. We're not winning.

[Ebro Darden]

Well. And that's why I said Democrats are gonna keep having this problem because you guys are looking for somebody perfect.

[Rosenberg]

Yes. Yes. Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Who's it gonna be?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, you're looking for a perfect candidate, a perfect human being.

[Laura Rosenberg]

We had one and it led to then afterwards, the worst thing possible. We had him for eight years, but he was black.

[Ebro Darden]

And are you really perfect in America if you're black?

[Laura Rosenberg]

The answer is yes. And that drove people crazy. The answer is yes.

[Ebro Darden]

Run down time.

[Rosenberg]

So I saw that Kylie Jenner is being taken to court by a former housekeeper who was subjected to severe harassment while working in her home. Angelica Hernandez Vasquez filed the lawsuit and she just details all this hostile work environment. She experienced discrimination, retaliation based on race. I. I think they made fun of her for being Catholic. You know, she felt like she was targeted, mocked. So yeah, she's coming for Kylie Jenner.

[Laura Rosenberg]

She said she was targeted and mocked.

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

For being Catholic by Kylie.

[Rosenberg]

So that's what I hear that what it sounds like for the details that I read was that the rest of the staff and I think, well, Kylie

[Laura Rosenberg]

is the one that Kylie didn't protect her from.

[Ebro Darden]

She went to her work environment type thing, blah, blah, blah.

[Rosenberg]

So they'll come for Kylie because of that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

This could be so many.

[Ebro Darden]

Kylie didn't actually do anything to the person.

[Rosenberg]

I. From what I read, I haven't read anything.

[Ebro Darden]

Also, KYLIE'S how old?

[Laura Rosenberg]

27, 28.

[Ebro Darden]

So, you know, she that young still?

[Laura Rosenberg]

She's not 30. She's not 30.

[Ebro Darden]

Mom of two, right?

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

Mom of two. Multimillionaire.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I think she's still with Timothy Shalomanan.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Are they still the other.

[Ebro Darden]

But I got news for you. Paying attention to these workplace things, man. Like when you hire people in your home, you gotta pay attention to details that you know. It's your home, it's their workplace.

[Rosenberg]

Right, right, right, right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Kylie is 28. Yeah. She also think about how nonsense this could be. Could be in theory though. But To Ebro's point, if you don't do the diligence. Because what if the rest of the staff just didn't like her? Could be she's annoying. And everyone was like, we don't like her. And over time, it was like, ugh, and started making fun of her. Then she felt ostracized, and then it's like, you know what? I'm suing. Or she goes to Kylie, and Kylie's like, you know what? You're a headache. I'm gonna let you go. And no one else seems to like you. We're gonna move on. She's like, that's discrimination. I'm Catholic. Which sounds like a reach.

[Rosenberg]

Wait. Or the staff could have treated her like garbage. Or they could have said to Kylie, and Kylie was like, I don't know. I've been with them forever.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Or that, too. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

So it could be so many different scenarios, but we'll see. This is going to lead into something more, guys, because Chi Ose was arrested.

[Ebro Darden]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

We have a video.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Okay,

[Ebro Darden]

Well, now this is getting to the point. And I felt this way for several. The NYPD works.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Tish runs the show, Right? Jessica Tish.

[Ebro Darden]

And Jessica Tish runs the show. Someone needs to articulate how police can violently remove people.

[Laura Rosenberg]

People from home.

[Rosenberg]

So Chi has been organizing in his community because a woman by the name of Carmela Charrington, a black woman, is in Rikers right now for a very complicated case of deed theft. She was protecting her father's brownstone where, like, they've lived for generations. And she's in Rikers.

[Ebro Darden]

She's in Rikers, bro.

[Rosenberg]

She has been raising money to get her a lawyer to get her out. Never has never been in trouble in her life. And she's in Rikers right now because.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Because they were trying to steal her father's brownstone.

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And she was fighting to not let these criminals. These thieves steal her home.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And now she. Because this is what the whole thing is.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

She's now the one in trouble.

[Rosenberg]

She was arrested. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

And it's more to it. But where do you have the puppet show?

[Rosenberg]

Oh, yes.

[Ebro Darden]

I sent this because the deed theft thing is complicated.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Nah, it's complicated.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Where it's like if you have a lien on your home for, like, unpaid electrical, something somebody could file to take your home or something.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. They take advantage of older folks because sometimes they. They forget about certain little paperwork that was supposed to be updated. So watch this.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Did you know that thieves are stealing people's entire homes? From them without ever stepping inside. No break in, no warning, Just paperwork. It's called defense. And in Brooklyn, it's been quietly stripping families of their homes and generational wealth. There's a criminal syndicate operating in black and brown neighborhoods in New York City to steal homes and displace families. And it's being facilitated by the police, courts, and politicians. They do it through mortgage fraud, tax lien, sales, coercive family transfers, and weaponizing guardianships to name a few. Sometimes they force deeds of elderly black homeowners who have already paid off their homes. Then they use the courts and the police to start the eviction process. They're evicting people from their homes they've lived in for decades, even though they've already paid them off. Yep. And victims have almost zero recourse as the police refuse to take reports or intervene when these crimes are occurring. In fact, they're routinely weaponized by property developers and deep thieves to carry out the operations. Often victims have to represent themselves since they can't find or afford representation because these cases drag out for years with the thieves looking to bankrupt them. Complaints about deed theft to the New

[Ebro Darden]

York attorney general's office have more than

[Laura Rosenberg]

tripled over the last few years. Last week, a judge had Carmela Charrington unjustly sent to Rikers island in the middle of court while she was trying to fight for her right to keep her bed Stuy home from being stolen from her family. Family without her consent. We need community awareness, support, and resources to protect these families being terrorized and stop deep.

[Ebro Darden]

So what's crazy?

[Laura Rosenberg]

I love that.

[Ebro Darden]

No, but what's crazy to me is what my brain just can't.

[Laura Rosenberg]

All of it. But yes.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes. Is police are coming to enforce something for someone who likely has forged paperwork.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's the part.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

But in reverse. Won't enforce on behalf of the homeowners who live in the community that are paying taxes that go to pay the salary for the police.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. And the main target is elderly black folks and Latinos. You take advantage that they're old and they sometimes, you know, can't answer certain things, are not going to pay attention and. Or language barriers.

[Ebro Darden]

And. And by the way, I. We've been talking about this for several months, since before we left Hot 97 we've been talking about.

[Rosenberg]

But now it's worse.

[Ebro Darden]

No one has ever come and explained on behalf of those who are claiming this process is legal. If you've noticed that. Have you heard from anyone that's like, no, that's not what's happening. These people owe taxes. These people didn't do X, These people don't have Y. And that's why their property had a lien on it and they didn't pay a thing or.

[Laura Rosenberg]

We haven't heard that. Right?

[Ebro Darden]

I haven't heard that at all. Has anyone else? No, and I put that to the audience too, because normally you would have heard someone from the city or Con Ed or, I don't know, Department of Taxation, whatever saying that. No, what's actually happening is these families didn't pay xyz, thus their deed went into whatever. And there was a thing on that you're able to do blah, blah, blah, if you fill out the form and you could take someone's home, which is crazy.

[Rosenberg]

It's crazy. She also is the only politician that I have seen actively trying to help. He's the only one I have. I, at least I just haven't. Please send me, send me stuff because I haven't seen anyone else speak up about it. So that's one thing I need to ask the mayor. What's up with this?

[Ebro Darden]

Yeah, no, absolutely. If we get time with mom, Donnie, we are absolutely asking him like, what's the plan here? What do you know about this? What are we not understanding about this? What do people need to know? Because the word is, is that black people and Latinos are getting. And by the way, it's getting out of hand because they're blame. They're also blaming obviously Jewish realtors and saying it's. It's likening to what's happening in the West Bank. It's going to that level.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I believe it in, in this woman's particular case and I could be wrong, but I remember, I think I saw people talking about that the judge kind of let this happen was like a female, like a Hasidic judge really. So they were just kind of like, pay attention to it all.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That doesn't sound great, but that's what I mean.

[Ebro Darden]

Somebody say something.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Don't let this spiral out of hand where now it's like Hasidic Jewish people are taking black people's homes in Brooklyn. Not what you want?

[Laura Rosenberg]

No.

[Rosenberg]

And by the way, that was only in this case. I don't know about the other cases.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, but that is. But that theme, I've heard of that it's like particularly Jews or religious Jews doing this kind of. Bro, I never heard about any of this until, I don't know last. No, we first brought it up a couple years ago.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But now.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But now it's picking up steam.

[Rosenberg]

I feel like they're like, oh, we can get away with this. Let's go. And they're taking as many as they can.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And do you know that if you were like a family from Brooklyn that has a brownstone, that if you were lucky enough that your family had that, that is probably the financial crown jewel of your entire family?

[Rosenberg]

Exactly.

[Ebro Darden]

No.

[Laura Rosenberg]

They're stealing wealth. No, no. Millions. They're stealing your wealth. Right? Wealth. They're stealing wealth.

[Ebro Darden]

Wealth.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Cause you owned it outright.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, and that's some of the scenarios where they're like, it's paid off.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right. My family did the right thing. And now we have this.

[Rosenberg]

Has been living here for generations upon generations upon generations.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And think about how horrifying. It's literally like a horror movie.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Like, you could. Who's my man? Who made get out?

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, Jordan. Pete.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's like, Jordan Peele movie. You're calling the police and you're going, someone's here to steal my home. And then the police show up and go, that's not your home. That's their home. You have to go, that's a horror movie. That's a horror movie. I'd freak out.

[Ebro Darden]

No, it's bugged. And I. And I still, while we're sitting here talking about. Can't believe that. Like I'm saying. I'll say it again. I can't believe there's not a politician or someone saying something to explain to regular folks what the laws are, what they're not, and how are the police weaponized in this scenario.

[Rosenberg]

Do you want to read a statement from Chiosi? I can't. You know, I'm blind.

[Ebro Darden]

Let's see.

[Rosenberg]

You can summarize it.

[Ebro Darden]

Councilman Chiosay was arrested while defending his constituent Carmela Charrington from eviction. After six decades in her home, Crazy black displacement is happening right now in Bed Stuy. And Carmela is one of the many black owners battling deed theft in Brooklyn. For months, our office has pushed for an eviction moratorium. For homeowners facing deed theft, this. These protections are the bare minimum, and families cannot wait any longer. Not another black homeowner should have their home stolen. Until deed theft ends, we will fight every single day. The council member is currently being held to 79th Precinct. We will keep the community updated as situation develops. In the meantime, please donate to Carmela's GoFundMe to support her legal fight. Can you send me the link to Carmela's GoFundMe so we could donate? Here you Go, Laura. Let's get to the gurus. Hey, yo.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's time for the gurus.

[Ebro Darden]

Rosenberg.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Laura, you know you are a beautiful queen. Ebro, don't ever play yourself.

[Ebro Darden]

You're not a guru.

[Rosenberg]

All right, breathe in, breathe out, guys.

[Ebro Darden]

Zen, Zen, Zen, zen, zen, Zen.

[Rosenberg]

The original gurus. Gmail.com. people ask, discuss. Where do I write to the gurus? Well, you email us the original gurus. Gmail.com. where the gurus unite to fight for what's right.

[Ebro Darden]

The original gurus. Gmail.com. sometimes I give out. Ebro Laura Rosenberg.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The original gurus. Gmail dot com.

[Ebro Darden]

So you're saying the email is not Ebro Laura rosenberg. Gmail.com for the guru.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No, it's the original gurus.

[Ebro Darden]

It's the original gurus. Gmail dot com.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Get it right.

[Rosenberg]

All right. Burn the stage, Ebro, and let's go, Rosemer. Who's out there? Who needs us?

[Laura Rosenberg]

By the way? I just. Just remember this now. And you know I have no self control. Maya has now added, for some reason since while I was gone last weekend, she just added the word O to her vocabulary. Oh, oh, oh, oh. I'm like, what do you. What.

[Ebro Darden]

Why do that in the house a lot?

[Rosenberg]

You probably.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I guess we do say someone says it.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, so what they'll. What she'll start doing is trying things that she hears other people doing and see what the effect. Like, what is what happens when I do.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh.

[Ebro Darden]

Cause you do do that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I do.

[Ebro Darden]

You do what you just did.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's real.

[Ebro Darden]

You do that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I don't even know that I do that. I believe you.

[Ebro Darden]

No, but pay attention.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I will. And she also has this. She also has a little carrot. Like a. It's like a little toy carrot that comes apart into pieces. You seen these?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Oh, my God. This carrot.

[Rosenberg]

That's right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

She loves this carrot. And when Natalie was in Mexico City with you, do you remember she bought the little bunny? Yeah, she busted out the bunny. So it's a little battery bunny that's like.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, it's a little cheapy wind up bunny.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And when Maya saw it, she was like, crazy.

[Ebro Darden]

What is this? Mind blown.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And she's trying to give it the carrot. Oh, it's too good.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, so the other day, I got one for you. We drink these smoothies.

[Laura Rosenberg]

At the end of the day, we need a name for the smoothies. We all know the smoothies.

[Ebro Darden]

The pineapple mint smoothie.

[Laura Rosenberg]

There you go.

[Ebro Darden]

This is a new smoothie.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The famous. The famous smoothies.

[Ebro Darden]

Not the morning smoothie.

[Laura Rosenberg]

A different this is the nighttime smoothie, bedtime smoothie.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Ebro Darden]

Fresh mint and pineapple blended together and we all drink it together.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

Selassie loves it. All of a sudden, last night we're drinking it, I hand her her cup and she goes. She smells it and she goes, P you what? So someone has been saying pu and I think it's in relationship to her diaper.

[Laura Rosenberg]

We've been so we say pee to Maya's diaper. Always.

[Ebro Darden]

Right?

[Laura Rosenberg]

That was like a silly thing.

[Ebro Darden]

So Selassie tried it in relation to something that she likes.

[Rosenberg]

Pee you.

[Ebro Darden]

It didn't stink. You love that. But she but my point is she's hearing it. She's hearing it. She tried it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It didn't work.

[Ebro Darden]

She wandered off after she said it. She didn't know what was supposed to happen after that.

[Laura Rosenberg]

P you and I'm out. TheOriginalGurusmail.com hello, I'm reaching out because I could use some honest guidance. I'm married and recently celebrated our seven year anniversary. While I value my relationship, I have to admit that I'm not fully happy right now. Music is a serious passion and career path for me, not just a hobby, and I've been trying to grow and become active in the scene. The challenge is that my wife doesn't fully support or understand the vision I have for my future. I've had to turn down multiple paid travel opportunities in different states because she isn't comfortable with me going alone and can't take time off work to come with me. I worry that by continuing to pass on these opportunities, they'll eventually stop coming altogether. Right now I also limit all my music related work to before 5pm when she finishes work, and it's starting to feel like I'm holding myself back. I've tried communicating how important this is to me, but it seems like she still views it as more of a hobby than a real career. On top of that, I have a criminal record and receive SSI due to bipolar disorder and ptsd, which makes my situation more complicated financially. I'm not yet in a position where I can easily make independent moves, especially since I've had to turn down income opportunities that could help me grow. I feel stuck between respecting my marriage and pursuing the opportunities that could change my life. I don't want resentment to build, but I also don't want to look back with regret for not chasing what I believe in. I'd appreciate any advice on how to navigate the situation, how to communicate more effectively, set boundaries, or find a path that Allows both my relationship and career. Career to grow. Thank you for taking the time to read this.

[Ebro Darden]

I got a question.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Serious is cancer. Who would let the average dancer.

[Ebro Darden]

If you love music, and this is for everybody here sitting at this table. And if you love what you do, not even music, you love what you do, and you need to have it, does it matter if you're being paid or being. Or getting popping doing the thing? And I ask you that you specifically as a validate me host for your podcast, because this sounds like. If you like. My first thing was to say, bro, if you love music, just make music and figure it out. Like, just keep making it and have fun. And if you love it, you love it.

[Rosenberg]

Did you see it? He have a day job?

[Laura Rosenberg]

He didn't say if he has a day job, but it seems to see. He seems to see this as having financial opportunity for him that could improve his life. No, I'm no expert. I'm not a psychiatrist or psychologist or a social worker. I'm just someone who has my own issues. I don't feel, though, that it's the same thing. Like, I don't think you're just seeking validation. If you want to take your career more seriously than a hobby, I think that could be a passion and a dream that you really want to fulfill. I just hated the part of she didn't want him to travel because she's not comfortable with him traveling without her.

[Rosenberg]

What's up with that? Why?

[Laura Rosenberg]

That was the part that made me like, are you leaving something out?

[Rosenberg]

Exactly. That's what I want. Yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Comfortable. What do you mean, comfortable? Like, she thinks something's gonna happen to you.

[Laura Rosenberg]

That's what it sounded like.

[Ebro Darden]

Or you think that she thinks you're gonna get into something you ain't supposed to be into.

[Rosenberg]

Has it happened in the past?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Because if so, you left that part out. If literally nothing has happened. And she's just like, I don't like the idea of you traveling on your own because she's insecure. That's a problem.

[Rosenberg]

Correct.

[Laura Rosenberg]

If you've done other things before that have created insecurity that may require more balance. So these situ. We have kind of need more information.

[Ebro Darden]

But also, I still go back to the fact that bro says music, he needs music in his life, and he's a creator, but a bird in the hands worth more than two in the bush. If you're not employed and you're telling your lady you can go make some money doing this thing, and she's not allowing you to go make money doing A thing that also fulfills you and makes you happy, that's a problem. Okay, but if you're making money and she's saying, bro, you're risking the money

[Laura Rosenberg]

you have for sure for a dream.

[Ebro Darden]

For a dream. And we have a family and a household to manage, and you should be adult enough to say, all right, yo, word. That makes sense. I'm going to fulfill myself with this love and this passion for music. Right? Because if the love and the passion is to be famous and to be popping, is that really just about the music?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Right? We don't know. But that's why there's a lot of ifs and spliffs here.

[Ebro Darden]

And that's why I think you need to exact. You need to look yourself in the mirror and examine and get some examining going on for yourself about what? Like, what's really important here.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But we have to take it at face value. At face value. Based on what he said, it feels like you need to really have a sit down with your partner about how much this means to you and what you. You want your life to be. Because I don't believe in anyone giving up their dreams. I mean, he didn't tell me if they have kids. He didn't say they had kids.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, we definitely need more information.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But if you don't have kids and y' all are just in a relationship, you should be able to pursue your dream still. You shouldn't be giving up because she's uncomfortable.

[Ebro Darden]

Definitely. If there's no kids, you should 1,000% be like, yo, check this out.

[Laura Rosenberg]

I want to pursue what I want to pursue. And by the way, you're getting. You're getting offers because of your music. That's. That is. By the way, that's already.

[Ebro Darden]

Yes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Uncommon. Most people grinding in music don't have any money coming in.

[Ebro Darden]

That's right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

It's money going out.

[Rosenberg]

What if he's like, yeah, I got a $200 gig that I could score?

[Ebro Darden]

Well, I mean, listen. $200. Don't be like that, Laura.

[Rosenberg]

Paid trips.

[Laura Rosenberg]

He said paid trips.

[Ebro Darden]

Don't be like that, Laura. You just scoffed at somebody making $200. That's what Rich people talk.

[Rosenberg]

If you have a job with benefits and a salary that's securing your family, you're gonna give that up for a $200 rando gig?

[Laura Rosenberg]

They're letting you open sobs for two hundo. It's not enough.

[Ebro Darden]

Well, they've been together so seven years and they don't have kids. Based on what we read.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Based on what we read, the Kids

[Ebro Darden]

part is big for me.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yeah. Because if you got kids and there's stuff to do, and then I tend towards trusting the wife more about what needs to be done.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or planning a family, too.

[Laura Rosenberg]

But if y' all don't. And she's just, like, uncomfortable with you traveling because she's kind of like. I mean, honestly, the truth is there are situations in which the person's kind of popping. That's why the partner's insecure. They don't want you on that stage because they know how they fell for you.

[Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Ebro Darden]

Right.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And they don't want other people. And that's a problem.

[Ebro Darden]

That's. And you definitely need to address that.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So we need more information, but I hope that we're giving you some stuff here that could be useful.

[Rosenberg]

Right, right, right. And at the end, I think you do need a heart to heart with your partner and get to the root of all this.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Get Heart to Heart by Kenny Loggins. No, just kidding. Don't get our thing taken.

[Rosenberg]

Send us an update. So say the gurus.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You know what I'm talking about.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, tomorrow's Family Friday spot. Friday. And we'll be here with. I have a Issa video.

[Rosenberg]

Nice.

[Ebro Darden]

What else we got tomorrow?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Wait, hold on. Also.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, we got videos from Fox. We got emails. Don't forget voice notes.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Don't forget. Also tonight, if you happen to be out and about 10pm Eastern real late, is back on shade 45.

[Ebro Darden]

Shade 40. Do you need a subscription?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro Darden]

Damn it.

[Laura Rosenberg]

So you're out, but a lot of people are in, have it in their car. Yeah, I. I love shade 45. I listen quite a bit tonight. 10 o', clock, stove. God cooks. The God. Mc Rakim's gonna call in. Who knows if anyone else shows up. But it's my.

[Ebro Darden]

But you never know.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You never know. But I'll tell you what. I'm back on music. I'm gonna have some. Some. I'm. I'm paying attention again. I took my break. My hiatus is over. I'm back.

[Ebro Darden]

I'm sending you some stuff. I've been paying attention.

[Laura Rosenberg]

You can you send me some stuff?

[Ebro Darden]

I've been going. You. You got that new casual album we talked about.

[Laura Rosenberg]

The casual album.

[Ebro Darden]

Oh, listen, that new casual album.

[Laura Rosenberg]

And by the way, you can send me dirty stuff now. Hey, yo. Whoa. Hey, yo. I don't need cleans anymore. You can let it all go.

[Ebro Darden]

Yo, when's that merch announcement?

[Laura Rosenberg]

Next week.

[Ebro Darden]

Next week.

[Rosenberg]

Next week.

[Ebro Darden]

New merch next week?

[FBI Director Kash Patel]

Week.

[Laura Rosenberg]

No. Well, yeah, yeah.

[Ebro Darden]

Don't spoil it. See, we. That's why we don't tell you stuff.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, my God.

[Laura Rosenberg]

Merch update. Merch update. Next week.

[Ebro Darden]

Just don't call in a podcast.