95.) Trump's Ballroom, KKK In America, + Death of Ted Turner (5/7/26)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Ebro, Laura & Rosenberg Show

Episode 95: Trump’s Ballroom, KKK In America, + Death of Ted Turner
Date: May 7, 2026
Hosts: Ebro Darden, Laura Stylez, Peter Rosenberg

Episode Overview

This episode delves deep into the intersecting worlds of American politics, race relations, and pop culture. The hosts offer their signature unfiltered takes on current events—ranging from the controversy surrounding Trump’s White House ballroom project and surveillance, the resurgence and roots of white supremacy in America, lawsuits against civil rights groups, generational gaps in social consciousness, and the passing of media tycoon Ted Turner. The show’s candid, often humorous banter brings levity to even the heaviest topics.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s White House Ballroom

Timestamps: [02:28] – [12:28]

• Ballroom Funding and Construction
  • Trump’s push for the White House ballroom has become a symbol of his presidency’s self-serving projects.
  • The Republican party attempted to add $1 billion to a security bill to fund the ballroom ([02:28]).
  • Rosenberg: “Our President will not stop talking about his ballroom.” ([02:57])
  • Hosts discuss the aesthetics: “It is an encapsulation of Trump’s America. We have a crappy low end real estate guy as our president... now, when you see the overhead shot of the White House, it’s... a garbage heap next to it.” ([03:35])
• Speculation on Hidden Agendas
  • Bascom suggests the ballroom could hide an underground bunker or major surveillance systems: “It’s a cover for them to create some sort of underground bunker...with all of our personal data in a bunker at the White House.” ([03:21], [10:47])
  • Ebro, sarcastically: “Sounds like paradise.” ([03:34])
• Motivations and Timelines
  • The hosts debate Trump’s intention—does he expect to still be in office to use the ballroom, or is it purely about legacy and self-promotion?
  • “Remember, he wants his name on things... He wants his name on that airport, your passport...” ([11:08])
  • Discussion on government contracts: “Whoever’s building it, it’s their only thing they’re doing.” ([07:01])
• Symbolism and National Image
  • Rosenberg compares the half-finished construction to stalled developments run by corrupt real estate moguls, calling it "what we deserve" or “what happens when you don’t vote.” ([05:28], [09:02])

2. White Supremacy, The KKK, and the Southern Poverty Law Center

Timestamps: [24:53] – [37:15]

• KKK’s Enduring Legacy
  • Bascom recounts the historical reach of the KKK: “There were 4 million paying KKK members in the 1920s and 30s. And that’s just not in the South.” ([27:29])
  • Ebro: “Those 4 million people had children...They and their ilk are actively working in society right now.” ([28:00])
• Current Investigations and Backlash
  • The White House is investigating the Southern Poverty Law Center, which the hosts note for its legacy of exposing KKK members ([27:17]).
  • Rosenberg highlights how this, coupled with recent legal moves, signals an escalating attack on civil rights institutions.
• Generational Gaps in Social Understanding
  • Laura notes contemporary youth know little about the KKK, linking this to book bans and gaps in education ([31:59]).
  • She recalls trying to explain historical violence and terror: “The KKK did that on the regular... they’re looking at me like, what are you saying?” ([32:39])
  • Bascom: “There’s teachers out there doing it...but it’s not mandated by the government. So they’re fighting against the system.” ([33:51])
• Voting Rights and Race
  • Vital stat: “A Democrat has not gotten the majority white vote since Lyndon Johnson, who did the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act.” ([36:28])
  • On voting rights: “The only reason we need any of this [legislation] is because white people needed to be told in writing not to be awful.” ([34:47])
  • Rosenberg: “The gap between Bush and Obama isn’t as big as the gap separating Trump from anyone else...that lack of politeness includes overt white supremacy, racism, nastiness, violence.” ([23:25])

3. Trump’s Behavior on the International Stage

Timestamps: [15:19] – [22:45]

• The King of England’s Visit
  • Story of Trump cutting in front of the Queen and the King during a formal handshake event: “Trump, like a three-year-old who doesn’t understand what’s happening and just wants to always be the center of attention... steps in front of them and shakes the hand of his own cabinet.” ([17:00–17:32])
  • Rosenberg: “He is a four-year-old. He goes, ‘No, it’s me first, then the King and Queen.’” ([18:13])
• Diplomatic Contrasts
  • Comparison to other presidents. Bush is called “coherent and smart, like a gentleman” compared to Trump, despite his previous reputation ([21:13]).
  • “Bush sounds like a genius compared to Trump. A diplomat for all time compared to Trump.” ([21:48])

4. Pop Culture and Audience Reactions

Timestamps: [44:08] – [51:13]

• A$AP Rocky & Rihanna Post-Met Gala

  • The hosts analyze viral videos of the couple appearing “annoyed.”
  • Consensus: “They’re a normal couple...That could have easily been a thing where they were both annoyed with something else together.” ([44:39], [45:46])
  • Commentary on how public scrutiny distorts ordinary human moments for celebrities.

• Internet Slang & Algorithm Hustling

  • The team discusses new viral terms like “mogging” (to outshine someone for status or image online), “aura farming,” and “clip farming.” ([52:23]–[54:41])
  • Rosenberg: “My dad loves that term, by the way. He thinks algorithm hustling is a brilliant term.” ([50:53])

5. Surveillance, Social Media, and Privacy

Timestamps: [54:58] – [57:05]

• Instagram DM Encryption
  • Ebro reacts to news of Instagram no longer guaranteeing end-to-end encryption.
  • Bascom: “There’s no way that a normal human being believed that they logged into a location...and you don’t think they could access it if they want to?” ([55:28])
• Concerns Over Data Use
  • The hosts highlight suspicion that these changes aid government surveillance, targeting anti-Trump activists and journalists ([56:22]).
  • “If you posted, liked, whatever, they know it already. It’s done.” ([56:43])

6. The Death of Ted Turner

Timestamps: [57:31] – [62:16]

• Legacy
  • Turner remembered as founder of CNN, TBS, and a “media maverick.”
  • Rosenberg: “He completely changed, for better or for worse, what the news cycle looks like and how we consume news media.” ([58:18])
  • Bascom: “I just. Only thing I remember about Ted Turner was him being controversial.” Discusses his outspoken, sometimes polarizing positions, and humanitarian work ([58:32]).
  • Turner’s views on everything from Israel/Palestine, US policy, to climate change and family planning are discussed ([59:10]–[61:47]).
• Shift in Media Landscape
  • Reflection on how CNN and the Turner empire have changed, and speculation on the future of media ownership ([62:16]).

7. Corporate Power and Government Collusion

Timestamps: [63:17] – [65:37]

• Roundup/Glyphosate Lawsuits
  • Clip features protestors decrying the Trump administration’s defense of Monsanto/Bayer, seeking immunity for the cancer-linked weedkiller Roundup ([63:43]).
  • “If you care about your health, any administration that isn’t aligning with working-class people will always likely align with corporations and their profits.” ([65:03])

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Trump’s Political Style:
  “There’s no one, there’s not an addict alive on Trump’s level of needing to be validated...I want my picture in your passport.” – Rosenberg ([13:11])

• On America’s Image:
  “It is an encapsulation of Trump’s America. We have a crappy low end real estate guy as our president.” – Rosenberg ([03:35])

• On Racial History:
  “There are white people whose whole existence is to make sure black and brown people do not have any equity on this planet. The obsession is psychotic.” – Bascom ([30:46])

• On Systemic Racism:
  “The only reason we need any of this sh*t is because white people needed to be told in writing not to be awful.” – Clip played by Bascom ([34:47])

• On Generational Disconnect:
  “These kids are not being taught or their parents don’t care. But mostly in school, they do not know the severity of the KKK.” – Ebro ([32:39])

• On Corporate Influence:
  “Any administration or politician you vote for that is not aligned with checks and balances and...not for working class people, [will] always likely align with corporations and their profits.” – Bascom ([65:03])

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Additional Highlights

• Pop culture sidebars provide contrast and comic relief—breaking down viral moments, sharing candid relationship advice, and riffing on internet trends and new slang.
• Reflection on the civil rights movement and its unfinished business—how progress can be reversed and how legal protections are still necessary.
• Sharing of personal experiences—including family history, cultural background, and emotional reactions—connects national issues to everyday life.
• Current events in Israel/Palestine are woven in, drawing parallels between American and global struggles for equity and peace.

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Conclusion

This episode is a quintessential blend of sharp cultural critique, political analysis, and relatable humor. The hosts confront the very real threats to American democracy and social justice—tying headlines to personal and historical throughlines—while keeping things grounded and human. For anyone looking to catch up on the biggest political, cultural, and societal debates of the week, this fast-paced, honest discussion provides everything: facts, opinion, context, and a lot to think about—peppered with the panel’s trademark irreverence.

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Transcript

[Bascom]

Just don't call it a. Okay. Thursday. Thursday. Yo. Yesterday on the show where there was things we just didn't get to a lot.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Bascom]

I mean, interestingly enough, the Obama stuff yesterday started moving. I saw it yesterday when we came into work that Obama had sat down and had a conversation. I didn't realize it was with Stephen Colbert, though.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, me neither.

[Bascom]

I thought it was like with some magazine. I didn't know we would have, like, Obama talking to Stephen Colbert. It's a pretty big get. Yeah, I think I also.

[Rosenberg]

Good for Stephen, man. Good for Steven. Make it good for him.

[Bascom]

He's gonna be all right out here without. Without cbs. Did. Speaking of Stephen, did Stephen Colbert. Did you see the David Letterman talking about and calling CBS execs out?

[Rosenberg]

I did, I did. I saw the headline about. I didn't see that. Is there a video of that too?

[Bascom]

No, I don't think David Letterman had video. He was just saying it's all bullish. And they didn't get rid of Stephen Colbert because of money. You know, it had everything to do with that Skydance deal.

[Ebro]

Right, right, right.

[Bascom]

You know, things we already knew. And it's similarly in the Obama Sit down with Stephen Colbert. I don't know if you guys saw where he talked about Netanyahu trying to drag Obama in. In Obama's administration into war with Iran, and he didn't take the bait. And you know, we kept hearing that about the whole Iran conflict recently, which is basically Netanyahu and the government of Israel dragging us into it. And he's been trying to do it since, like, what is it? Like the 2000s. And presidents have been like, nah, that's not smart.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, nobody's doing. We don't want to. We don't want to destabilize the. The Gulf. Thanks.

[Bascom]

Right. But when it comes to doing things

[Rosenberg]

that are not smart, we got the guy.

[Bascom]

We got our guy.

[Rosenberg]

Now we'll do whatever. This week was a crazy. It's become where if you're a Trump supporter, it has to be so hard. Like, unless you're an overt white supremacist. Like overt. Emphasis on overt. Who can point to people and go, well, look at all the great white supremacy work we're doing. Look at the immigration, the border. Look at how we're stripping back all the DEI stuff. Look at all. Unless you point to that. What could you be pointing to as a success?

[Bascom]

Can't be the gas prices.

[Rosenberg]

Can't be anything economy wise. We're in a really bad way economically. Guys. Did you see the pictures this week? Cause, oh, another thing we didn't get to yesterday was the Republicans trying to get the security bill done that. That will include the billion dollars to finish the ballroom.

[Bascom]

Yeah. Cause you know, 1 billion of our dollars.

[Ebro]

Lor stav taxpayer dollars.

[Rosenberg]

Cause you know, even though we're in the middle of a war that's destabilizing the global economy.

[Ebro]

That's right.

[Rosenberg]

Our President will not stop talking about his ballroom.

[Ebro]

Well, yeah, I mean, listen, there was danger at the White House correspondents Dinner.

[Rosenberg]

So more reason gotta have the ballroom

[Ebro]

to build the ballroom.

[Rosenberg]

And you know, the people building it are just happen to be people who can build like underground bunkers with the most incredible protection if you were needed to be inside below ground at this ballroom.

[Bascom]

And also to create more surveillance systems on American public and our put all of our health data and all of our personal data in a place in a bunker at the White House.

[Rosenberg]

Is that what they're.

[Bascom]

That's what people speculate.

[Rosenberg]

So.

[Ebro]

Sounds like paradise.

[Rosenberg]

So. And have you seen the pictures of like what DC looks like, what the White House looks like right now? It's so perfect. We don't. Honestly. It's an art piece, guys. I swear to you, if you're some dope abstract artist, it is an encapsulation of Trump's America. We have a crappy low end real estate guy as our president. And is it surprising that now when you see the overhead shot of the White House, it's the White House and then just this garbage heap next to it, like it.

[Bascom]

Wait, so they haven't removed the debris?

[Rosenberg]

No, it's just, it's half a construction. It's just you. Yo, you haven't seen the overhead.

[Bascom]

Can you see, can you see the.

[Rosenberg]

Can you find the.

[Bascom]

I remember seeing them.

[Rosenberg]

It was on the front page of the Post and the Times, like yesterday, the day before.

[Bascom]

I remember them seeing them tear down like whatever that wing is. I don't know.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, yeah, the East Wing.

[Bascom]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

And not the West Wing that you can't touch the West Wing. It was the.

[Bascom]

What's in the West Wing's the TV where they did the TV show.

[Rosenberg]

But it's true. That's where everything is. The East Wing was traditionally the First Lady's wing.

[Ebro]

Right? That's where the Rose garden.

[Bascom]

She ain't there anyway, so we te

[Rosenberg]

like tear it down. I don't even care. I am America's first lady.

[Bascom]

You think of America?

[Rosenberg]

You think me go America?

[Bascom]

Yeah, I didn't, I didn't real I thought it was like, you know, they tarped it off or something. I. I didn't know they just left it as a scra.

[Rosenberg]

I hope you can find it. It's so nasty. It is, Laura. You'll see what I mean.

[Bascom]

Rahaan Lu will find it. You don't gotta find it. Louis, get it over.

[Rosenberg]

I think Rahsaan found. Literally looks like, like some artistic photographer would have this as like a. Look at this. Look at what? America is now a half broken down nasty. The filth is right there on Pennsylvania Avenue.

[Bascom]

Amazing.

[Rosenberg]

This is what we are.

[Bascom]

Well, no, it's what we deserve. You get what you vote for. You know what I mean?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Or what you don't vote for, or

[Bascom]

what you don't vote for. For those who not voting. So you found it, Rasan.

[Rosenberg]

That. That is it. But it's not what I was talking about.

[Bascom]

That's not the overhead, but that's the construction.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Louie, find us the overhead if you can.

[Bascom]

And so are they working on it or not working on it or started working on it and waiting for more funding on it? What is it?

[Rosenberg]

Well, I think they started working on it, remember, and Trump was getting money from other people for IT donors, these big companies who supported him. And then they ran out. So they said, time for us to go to the old taxpayer. We can't pay for this. You know, I'm not paying for my own ballroom. I don't pay for anything. I'm Donald Trump. I keep my money for me and my family.

[Bascom]

Well, not only that, but the White House is owned by us, the taxpayer, anyway, like, we were always paying for it.

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Bascom]

There was no world where he was paying for it himself.

[Rosenberg]

No. So I got. He got started with other people's money. Now he wants taxpayer money and as a result, it's just sitting there half built. So the funniest part to me is, let me ask you a question, guys. What could Trump's plan be for this glorious ballroom? Knowing how long a construction, a billion dollar construction, it's practically like making a stadium. We are a year and three months already into his presidency. What's the fastest timeline that something of that level could get done? Because keep in mind, like, you know, this isn't like Ebro trying to pull together his upstate spot. This is. It'll be. Whoever's building it, it's their only thing they're doing.

[Bascom]

And by the way, that's still 24 to 36 months.

[Rosenberg]

That's what, that's what I'm saying.

[Bascom]

But you this could be more.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, I'm saying the opposite.

[Bascom]

It could be faster.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, because like for example, you're trying. You're using people who have other jobs. You're not the only job. They're doing well now. They got things to do.

[Bascom]

No, no, no, I. The team that's working on my crib is working on my crib.

[Rosenberg]

That's their full time job.

[Ebro]

That's the project.

[Bascom]

Well, they're contractors. I'm working with a company and this job.

[Rosenberg]

So imagine that contracting company just goes. Everyone we have is on this because we're getting paid. With respect to the beautiful place. You're big. A billion.

[Ebro]

Right, right, right.

[Bascom]

Yeah. It'll move much. It should. But also, but also not so much because you know, with my experience now with building something.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. You know what it is?

[Bascom]

The, the. The structure in the outside is very. Can happen fast. Right. It's the actual. The inside of things.

[Rosenberg]

Of a big ass. Gigantic.

[Bascom]

A long time. There you go. There's the overhead.

[Ebro]

Wow. Okay.

[Rosenberg]

But like it's. That's still not the picture I was talking about. But, but we're getting closer.

[Ebro]

But it looks amazing.

[Rosenberg]

Like the angle they showed yesterday in the paper is. It looks like actual, like from the. It's awful looking. You cannot believe.

[Bascom]

That wasn't good. That was.

[Rosenberg]

No, that's not good either. You're right. That shows that it's not good.

[Bascom]

But it looks like a construction site. Construction sites aren't that appealing.

[Rosenberg]

No.

[Bascom]

When you're. But I'll tell you what's really not appealing. One where you drive by it and nothing's happening for a long period of time. There's one of those over in Jersey there's this big real estate dude. I don't know if you guys follow. Follow any of that stuff out there watching, but if you're in like Edgewater and over and this big real estate guy's name is Davies.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Bascom]

Davies just got. Remember the whole. Melendez, the senator in, in Jersey that went to jail.

[Ebro]

Yes, yes.

[Bascom]

The Homeland. So Davies, this big real estate dude was the guy giving the gold bars to Melendez on the bribery scheme. He's the real estate dude.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Bascom]

I'm driving down River Road the other day because I was in the area, there's this whole building. I was like, yo, the last time I was over here, this building was looked just like this. And I don't come over here enough for this building to look the same.

[Ebro]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bascom]

So I googled and it's a Davies building. That is just a Davies is in jail. So maybe that's why. It's not. It's so they. They basically built like 12 stories of a building and didn't do anything else.

[Rosenberg]

And they stop.

[Ebro]

It's just going to stay like.

[Bascom]

Then on top of that there's a lawsuit because they built the building too high and it's. It's messing up the views. But of something. And went over some limit of the city allowed. But the city allowed it because Davies was bribing. I think the mayor.

[Ebro]

Yo, bro.

[Bascom]

And got the approval is over in Edgewater. Some craziness. But anyway it's like that Rosenberg. But where you basically have someone start something and then stop.

[Rosenberg]

And now just sitting there because they

[Bascom]

didn't have all their financing together. They didn't have all. They didn't follow proper protocols. They didn't. You know what I mean?

[Ebro]

Or.

[Bascom]

And. And some criminal was involved always.

[Rosenberg]

But. But, but what the point I was trying to make was if it's going to take. Let's say it happens pretty fast. Let's say he gets it done in a year from now, which would be very fast, I would think.

[Bascom]

It ain't getting done in a year and it's not.

[Rosenberg]

So let's call it a year and a half.

[Bascom]

It's not getting done in a year and a half either.

[Rosenberg]

So he. So he plans to continue to be president.

[Bascom]

No, he.

[Rosenberg]

Why. Why is you having the ball?

[Bascom]

Just like Iran. He doesn't have a plan. The only.

[Rosenberg]

But he assumes he'll still be around. Why are you building his concepts of a plan? That's right. So why the plan? The concept of the plan has to be one way or another. I'll still be in the White House in four years.

[Ebro]

I mean he's talking about it.

[Rosenberg]

Guys keeps bringing it up.

[Bascom]

It's a cover for them to create some sort of underground bunker. So there's like AI under there. There's all this other stuff under there so that they can create like a surveillance thing at the White House for whatever purposes they're going to use it for. And the reason this is moving forward

[Rosenberg]

is not because president by then though.

[Bascom]

But it ain't about him. It's about his name being on the thing. Remember, he wants his name on things.

[Rosenberg]

But he's also working on an airport.

[Bascom]

Yeah. He wants his name on that. Did you know that we may. If you renew your passport.

[Ebro]

Oh, God. Yeah, I saw this.

[Bascom]

Your passport. If you have to renew your passport while Donald Trump's president. I don't know if this is real or not go. Lou, can you look?

[Rosenberg]

You might have his name on your passport.

[Bascom]

Your passport may have a picture of Donald Trump in it. The. It's going to have the picture if you renew before he's done. I think it's for this year. For this year. Oh, for this year. They're putting under the guys of the 250th anniversary.

[Ebro]

Oh, God. Yes, yes, yes.

[Bascom]

So forever and ever, this country. When you look back at 250 years and we won't be here for 300, I don't know if I'll be here for 270. Will I be here for 275?

[Rosenberg]

Maybe? I think so.

[Bascom]

25 years. I might make it. I'm 70 something.

[Rosenberg]

I think you got a shot.

[Bascom]

I won't be sitting here with y'.

[Rosenberg]

All.

[Bascom]

That'd be crazy if I was.

[Rosenberg]

Well, unless we go on that. That run.

[Bascom]

If we go on a crazy run where I'm sitting here at 70 something years old and y' all still give a damn, and I'm still ranked number nine.

[Rosenberg]

We better not. We better not still be nine.

[Bascom]

But not that. Yo, we gotta deal with this. We have to. This is our legacy as voters and as adults. That, and I want you guys to sit on that for a while. Our legacy is this. Donald Trump. 10 years.

[Ebro]

I wonder. I wonder. Let's say someone else wins, right? Do you think they'll go back and reverse all this? You think it'll be like Sean Kennedy center?

[Bascom]

Oh, yeah, 1,000.

[Rosenberg]

They'll. They'll work hard. Yeah, a lot.

[Bascom]

It may start at the midterms, guys. The amount of work that I follow, some people who are like, that's their whole social media existence is keeping track of all of the, like, craziness.

[Rosenberg]

The bullish.

[Bascom]

Well, yeah, the bullish. But I guess in a legal framework of, like, what's supposed to be happening versus what is happening and what, you know, like. So there are people who are actively trying to track this and document this that may start at these midterms.

[Rosenberg]

Can you imagine the level when you talk about the ultimate dream guest? And I am a couple of weeks away from the first episode of Validate Me. Shout out to my guy Omar. We're gonna get the studio done hopefully this week. Trump is the ultimate. There's no one, there's not an addict alive on Trump's level of needing to be validated, cuz the whole world sees it. You're like, I need an airport name for me. I want my picture and your passport.

[Bascom]

I need an award.

[Rosenberg]

I need an Award.

[Bascom]

I need the Nobel Peace prompt.

[Ebro]

I don't care if I don't deserve it.

[Bascom]

No, no, no.

[Rosenberg]

Give me the Nobel priest. Just give it to me even if I didn't win it. Please give it to me. FIFA made up and we're gonna get to World Cup. I know a little bit. One of the reasons I think the World cup is already being laughed at is because FIFA decided to do all these clownish things like honor Trump with a made up award. Yeah, but he's doing it in front of like, I get it. You know, I sometimes get upset and I show my insecurity by saying, like, why aren't I recognized for blank? And obviously I'm not the only one. A lot of people do that in the world we live in today. Trump does it in this way that you're like, can't you in the moment feel you're begging for people? And you know they don't mean it because you're powerful and you're demanding it from them.

[Bascom]

But this is indicative of people who never had those issues remedied. They never dealt with it. Right. So it's like a petulant child who never had their behavior corrected. Right. And now is 80 years old and never.

[Rosenberg]

And never got the validation from his father that he wanted so badly.

[Bascom]

Right. But, but even for the many people who didn't get validated by the parents that they have, right? And whatever they needed and what their needs, their emotional needs weren't met by parents. This is very everybody, very common. At some point in your life, you need to address that, right. And understand yourself and be able to rectify whatever that behavior is. That's what mature people are trying to

[Rosenberg]

do some degree, at least something to where, like, you're a man aware of.

[Bascom]

How about, let's just be aware of

[Rosenberg]

it so the whole. So the whole world's not laughing at all of your problems all the time.

[Bascom]

Yo, do you guys realize the whole

[Rosenberg]

world's laughing all the time?

[Ebro]

Yes. We are the joke guys.

[Bascom]

Last week, the king of England.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, I saw.

[Bascom]

Came to the United States. Did you know this?

[Ebro]

I saw. Yeah.

[Bascom]

To stand before Congress to remind us that we're not supposed to have kings. That happened.

[Rosenberg]

Well, what do you mean? That was why. That was why he was invited.

[Bascom]

That was his speech. Now, I don't know why he was invited. His speech was about checks and balances.

[Rosenberg]

I did not know that's what the speech was about.

[Bascom]

His speech was about the role of America. And, like, the whole, like, reason you exist is to be this new place that didn't have what we had in England.

[Ebro]

Chill, fam. I'm the only king over here, just

[Rosenberg]

so y' all know. Wait, that so? That's funny. I didn't know that part. The only thing that I saw about the King's visit was that Trump cut

[Bascom]

the Queen off from shaking hands.

[Rosenberg]

From shaking hands with people.

[Bascom]

Yeah, I saw it.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, Laura, hold on. Everybody dial in for a second, please. If you find the video, no pressure,

[Bascom]

find a piece of the speech too.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, God. Laura, I just want to describe it for you. They're standing on the, on the lawn. Okay, Trump, Charles and Camilla, right? She's the Queen now. They're all standing there. Trump's cabinet lines up all this coterie of ne' er do wells and losers. Respectfully, they're all standing there. Your Rubio's, your Hegsets. They're all there. They're obviously there to greet and get a handshake from the King and Queen.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Trump is there with them. They're in a line to get the handshakes. As the King and Queen start doing the handshakes. Trump, like a three year old who doesn't understand what's happening and just wants to always be the attention.

[Bascom]

Dementia, sir, this is, this is.

[Rosenberg]

He's. That's giving him too much credit. It's not even dementia. It's.

[Bascom]

He's.

[Rosenberg]

He's actively. A three year old, I believe, steps in front of them and shakes the hand of his own cabinet that he sees every day.

[Ebro]

No.

[Bascom]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

As God is my witness, Laura. He went down the line like, oh, Pete Hegseth, good to see you.

[Bascom]

Good to see you, Laura. When we find the video. No, no, no, Laura. When we find the video. He beelines in front of the Queen.

[Rosenberg]

No, he cuts the Queen off. He's like, excuse me. And if you look, Charles kind of like, like, he's like, I don't know what to do.

[Bascom]

Like, of course he doesn't know what to do.

[Rosenberg]

I've never seen this before.

[Bascom]

Right. Because he knows he's a more. Everybody knows he's idiot. But that's why I say, you think I'm giving him too much credit, that saying? It's dementia.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, because dementia would mean, like, it's happening because he's now not capable. I think that's who he is.

[Ebro]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

I think he is a four year old. He goes, no, they're not here. I shake their hand. It's me first, then the King and Queen. Not. Maybe you're the guest. Not do it Every other.

[Bascom]

So you don't think his brain is malfunctioning enough to where he's like, I'm not even supposed to be shaped. I should just wait. These are my guys. Like, I don't need to shake.

[Ebro]

No, his ego isn't in the forefront, I think.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I see what you're saying. It's. It's, it's.

[Bascom]

It's happening because he was walking already with them. You know what I mean? He was kind of escorting them down the line. The video I saw then at a certain point was like, no, I must go shake hand. And like, you know what I'm saying? Where his brain, like, malfunctioned.

[Rosenberg]

I hear what you're saying.

[Bascom]

He didn't know where he was or something. He was like, I got to go.

[Rosenberg]

Sh. That's so. By the way, you're not way off like that could definitely see what I'm saying.

[Bascom]

Cuz he was already standing there. They're going down the line, Laura. And then all of a sudden, boom. He beines. And like, I must shake hand.

[Rosenberg]

I. I think so. I. It could be yours. I'm going with. He's just like, no, I've had enough. Like, the same way. Salasi. If you are at the park and Selassie's hanging out with a couple little

[Bascom]

kids, don't put Selassie and Trump in the same.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Bascom]

Game park.

[Rosenberg]

No, they're not there. He's not there. Selassie's there with two other kids.

[Bascom]

No, I can't even put her in there. It can't happen.

[Rosenberg]

Three random three year olds are all hanging out and you're saying, no, let the other two. They need to go. You just went, they need to go. And they go, okay, okay. And then they start. And a few seconds in, they're like, ah, ah, ah. And they have to go again because they're a baby.

[Bascom]

Let's see it.

[Ebro]

All right.

[Rosenberg]

All right. Oh, that's nice. There's Camilla.

[Bascom]

See? He's already there. And then boom.

[Ebro]

They're like, yes, sir, we know you already.

[Bascom]

They stop. Camila was like.

[Rosenberg]

Cuz now they're like, well, because this is obviously a tradition they've done in many.

[Bascom]

Wait, no, he didn't even let them shake the hand. He's like, all right, we've done enough.

[Ebro]

Oh, my gosh. Yeah. This is so embarrassing.

[Rosenberg]

And listen, I'm no royal, you know, admirer, but I know that, like, they're there as your guests, and they do everywhere the royals go, I'm sure they're used To a certain level of, well, this is how things are and you just don't even know. Like you don't, bro, if you did an apples to apples comp of all of these sort of international moments and you put Obama, frankly, anyone. Let's not even. Obama's too good an example. Any president, put him next to little George Bush. It's ridiculous. Yo, I heard a George Bush interview the other day with his daughter, cuz NBC is doing their 250th, so what's her name? Jenna. Bush is interviewing all the living presidents, I think, besides Trump. And she interviewed her dad and she's like asking him about democracy. Yo, guys, I'm not kidding. You cannot hear George Bush talk in this era anymore. Your brain from 25 years ago can't compute what you're hearing.

[Bascom]

You can't reconcile the fact that this actually, he sounds coherent and smart, like

[Rosenberg]

a gentleman who understands what the democracy is like. And don't get me wrong, that doesn't change the fact that he said things back in the day that you're like, yo, my man, you sound nuts. That's not a word. But compared to Trump, who sounds uneducated, who just doesn't sound like he's. And by the way, Trump was educated. He went to Columbia, wherever he went, cuz he's, you know, bought his way into school. But Bush sounds like a genius compared to Trump. A genius, a diplomat for all time compared to Trump.

[Bascom]

I think the comprehension level and the respect level of the office, I think is also what you're picking up on. Like you're picking up on the fact that this guy, and we lived it, was framed as a bumbling idiot and was in many ways. Now fast forward. When you're comparing it against a literal. Not. It's not even a narrative. It's a literal bumbling buffoon who's dis. Even disrespectful of the position. Doesn't even, doesn't care at all. Matter of fact, people who voted for him love how disrespectful he is. Like, you can't, your brain can't reconcile it.

[Rosenberg]

I know we're asking a lot today and I'm sorry to be annoying, Bascom, but if you see Louis, if you do see it, that clip of Laura Bush and George, it's worth watching because you're gonna sit there in your brains. Like he does a thing about Michelle Obama too. About their. They do a thing about him and the. Obama's friendship.

[Ebro]

Yeah, their friendship. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Which also just sons Trump again. It's just like you don't understand how this whole thing's supposed to work.

[Bascom]

But remember, that's why people like him, remember he was supposed to drain the swamp, supposed to be the anti government. Like we can't forget those pieces. People who voted for him wanted him because he wasn't.

[Rosenberg]

They're all the group. Why are all these elites friends? We're against them.

[Bascom]

Or why if you guys are. If you guys disagree on policy and dislike each other, or. Excuse me, you disagree on policy, you're supposed to dislike each other. And why are you guys being cordial?

[Rosenberg]

So how do you guys like Laura? You know how like the Shawnee cultures of the world.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And I don't mean that disrespectfully at all. I love Shawnee to death. But they think they're all the same, right? To some, yes.

[Ebro]

We'll say that the group that feels that both sides are the same, I don't vote.

[Rosenberg]

Cuz they're all the same. And the only difference with Bush or Obama was that they're more polite. Right. I feel like there's some truth to that in that. Yeah. What separates Bush and Obama is not nearly as big a gap as what separates Trump and the rest. But to me, what's in that gap? That lack of politeness includes overt white supremacy, racism, nastiness, violence. To me, like that is a gigantic difference.

[Ebro]

I mean, we see that guys, but there are some people who are very much married to that concept of everyone's the same, everything's Babylon. Like, even though they pay taxes and participate in the system, they don't care. And sometimes it's an ego thing. I've been saying this for so long, I can't. I'm not gonna be the one that's. That changed my mind. There's a lot of that. There's a lot. Bunch of Trump supporters that are so. You know what I mean, they were. They went so hard for Trump that they see everything like, yeah, it's not that bad. I mean, I feel like he's doing this for a reason. What's the reason? I don't know, but it's gonna come out. It's that whole mindset.

[Bascom]

Well, and I think for some people, they can't rationalize. Like, you brought up overt white supremacy and all that stuff. If, if your voting base and the constituency you represent is based in racism and you know it, that's what got you this position. And you're okay with that. How can we sit down and even have a convo?

[Rosenberg]

Right.

[Bascom]

So there. I think that messes with people's brain. But like, let's take Mom Donnie. There are people whose disdain for Mom Donnie is very, very high in the job that he's in. The job is to manage the city for everyone who lives here, whether they liked him or not.

[Ebro]

That's right.

[Bascom]

What we see in Trump is somebody who's managing the country only for people that supported him, not for everyone. So when I, when you talk about two wings of the same bird, the bird is the United States of America. Let's for. I think that's what they mean when they say that. And so their expectation is the essence of the United States of America should have more differentiation. It shouldn't be two wings of the same bird. That's not my expectation. I have zero expectation that America, the country we live in, the place I was born, will ever prioritize the needs of just black people. It's not even in the fabric. It wasn't in the founding principles. Why would I ever expect that this nation or anybody who's in charge of running it is going to be able to prioritize the needs of people who look like me or my family members?

[Rosenberg]

But that's why you choose to support people who aren't overtly working against your needs. Because, you know, realistically, it's. No, it's never going to be to prioritize. Prioritize the people that were forced to come here to do labor to build the country. But there is a difference between even a Bush. Other Republicans I didn't mess with. I didn't like that they didn't prioritize the economic and social policy that I felt could uplift the people in America who needed upliftment. I felt that their policies uplifted and helped people who already are uplifted and don't need help. However, I didn't think that everything they did was to step on those people intentionally and push them further the other direction.

[Bascom]

No, people. I don't even think enough time is being spent on this lawsuit that is against the, the, Was it the Southern. What is it the Criminal Law Center?

[Ebro]

Southern Poverty Law.

[Bascom]

Southern Poverty Law.

[Rosenberg]

Poverty Law Center.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Bascom]

I don't think people are really processing. They are under investigation for basically investigating the KKK hiding in America.

[Ebro]

Yes, yes.

[Bascom]

The White House is actively investigating the organization who made it their business to out KKK members. And let me remind y', all, we talk about this in the Patreon with Rosenberg's dad. If you haven't got it, we've made it Put it out. Yesterday, there were 4 million paying KKK members in the 1920s and 30s. Yes, 4 million. And that's just not in the South. That is all over the United States of America. Those 4 million people had children.

[Ebro]

Yes, with the same ideology.

[Bascom]

Those 4 million people, by the way, those children and their. And their ilk are actively working in society right now.

[Ebro]

I don't know. We had a guest a long time ago, but I remember there was this map of where you can. I'm sure it exists online where you can find, like the KKK headquarters all over the country. That still exists, I believe so. I have to look into it. But I remember. I remember looking into it. I want to say, like six years ago on the show, on our show. I remember being in the studio being like, let me see. I think I was with Shawnee. I'm like, look at this. In the state of New York. Look, there's one up there. There's one here.

[Rosenberg]

But that's the ill part in the Patreon this week that my dad tells the story about my grandfather seeing the KKK in Pennsylvania. Yeah, I was. Yeah, there's. I, I was even taken aback by our conversation that what you and my dad were talking about. Ebro. I. I didn't know those things. That was Bascom. This is the video I was telling you guys about real quick of Laura Bush and George Bush. So just put this through the lens of how you think when Trump speaks versus if you're our age, what you remember thinking George Bush was when he was president.

[Ebro]

Jenna Bush.

[Rosenberg]

This is him with Jenna Bush son.

[Ebro]

Jenna Bush.

[Bascom]

Him and his.

[Rosenberg]

Little antsy, as I'm sure you know. And I was sitting next to Michelle. That's what happened. That's who I sit next to at funerals. And I was kind of teasing her and stuff. And I slipped her an Altoid, not as a joke, but I thought she might want one. And I got in the car afterwards and you said, you're trending. I didn't know what trending meant. And it turns out the country is starved to see a white center right Republican and African American center left Democrat having fun and being able to converse not as political figures, but as citizens. And I intend to continue to try to do that. That's just a small piece of it. But if there's a humanity to it that, like, again, I was so out on George Bush, can't even tell you how out I was. But compared to what we're seeing now, like, just the basic humanity doesn't exist.

[Bascom]

But this goes on what we were talking about the other day when I said a lot of people didn't think the boogeyman was real. Right. I've said that for a long time because I would have these arguments with people when we talk about the rights of black people or a world in America where one day they start hanging black people again or it just becomes open season on black people. Like it was at a time in the twenties in this country and before and really on up into the 60s. The boogeyman in the United States of America and the world is real.

[Ebro]

Yes.

[Bascom]

There are white people whose whole existence is to make sure that black and brown people do not have any equity on this planet.

[Rosenberg]

Yep.

[Bascom]

And the obsession is psychotic. It's bananas to me. But it is a control mechanism and a thing that is built in for centuries. And so it is active in this country and it has been since before Hitler was in power in Germany.

[Rosenberg]

No, no, it's, it is the true sickness of our.

[Bascom]

And, and, and until we're able to deal with it, take accountability, do the work that, you know, any. We would expect any traumatized human being to do to reconcile behavior, to appease. Not appease, but atone. And, and, and really come to terms with the damage they've done to a relationship, to a people, to a person. Until that works done, we're going to continue to have his problem. Yeah, there's. There's no way around it. And by the way, same thing in Israel. Same thing with, with what's happened in Israel and, and, and the damage that's been done to Generations, Generations of people don't even know that. All they know is trauma, fight, blood, war, kill. But I will say all they know.

[Ebro]

You know how I, I keep bringing up guys that like, you know, because I work with the youth and how like, they really do not understand, know the kkk. Right. But it all ties back because there's. Okay, so I don't know if you guys have seen online, but one, one thing that was trending was like a, a student in like a school, I want to say, in Philly, who basically was exposing his peers because they didn't know how to read. He had a basic, like, message on a flashcard and they couldn't read the word silhouette or exquisite, I think. And it was a big thing. They were like, oh my God, these kids can't read. But it goes back to the book banning. It goes back to these kids are not being taught or their, their parents don't care. But mostly in school.

[Bascom]

Yeah.

[Ebro]

They do not know the severity of the KKK watching the Testaments. Right. Spin off a Handmaid's tale. We're talking about, hey, these women were getting their cut. Their. Their tongues cut off for disobeying. The KKK did that on the regular. They cut men's genitals when they hanging them and stuff things in their mouth. The most horrific things that you can think of. And they're. They're looking at me like, what are you saying?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I guess this is real.

[Ebro]

I'm like, yes. This is the history that they don't want you to know.

[Rosenberg]

I guess you're right. Because like, we were. We are sort of a. Yeah, it's a real generation of yesterday. We were close enough to it to like, hear stories and, and, and, and learn about it.

[Bascom]

But it was also made a priority.

[Ebro]

But okay.

[Rosenberg]

By some people. Yeah.

[Bascom]

So also depending on the school, you went to your parents.

[Ebro]

So me, I grew up in a household where my family was. Was just came to this country, had b. Didn't know how to speak the language. So I learned history in school, but because my best friend's mother was a black woman who's like, you should know about this. And that's what made me open my eyes. Like, oh, my God. I didn't learn about this in school. I have to read about other things. And then I was seeking that knowledge because it wasn't taught. But I had people who cared about teaching you. We don't really have that anymore.

[Bascom]

And it's. I mean, that's really scary. I don't want to. There's teachers out there doing it. Yes, there are, but it's not. It's not, man. It's not mandated by the government.

[Rosenberg]

So they fighting against the system to try to do it.

[Ebro]

And go to Florida where the books are literally been taken out of the libraries and classrooms.

[Bascom]

Go to clip. Let's see here. Go to clip. Where's my guy? 13 for me. Since we were talking about rights and learning and history coming off voting rights.

[Rosenberg]

I am so tired of cosplaying the apocalypse.

[Bascom]

The only reason why we needed the goddamn Voting Rights act in the first place is because of white men. I don't care that you don't f. Ing see the value in it. Neither did your great grandfather. And that's the f. Cking reason we have got passed in the f ing 60s.

[Rosenberg]

I am tired of it.

[Bascom]

I'm tired of pretending that the motherf ckers responsible for us needing it aren't alive.

[Rosenberg]

They're alive.

[Bascom]

And you Call them grandma. So no white boy. I don't care what the f you think about the goddamn Voting Rights Act. I don't care. I don't care what any white person thinks about it at f all. Because the only reason we need any of this sh t is because white people needed to be told in writing not to be awful. That's why you guys don't like that part. But that's what laws are. They're telling you not to be a piece of sh. It's very weird that we have so many laws surrounding race because white men won't be better. They won't be better. They won't do better. It doesn't matter what year it is. In the year of our Lord 2026, we are still discussing the merits of black people voting because you are not different than your ancestors.

[Rosenberg]

You have a type that you like on the Internet. He's literally. Even his voice quality.

[Bascom]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

It sounds the same as your wife.

[Bascom]

I think he made Romania. Pearl Mania is my guy. I love Pearl Mania.

[Rosenberg]

That's not. Who is that?

[Bascom]

That's not. I don't even know. I never seen that guy before in my life.

[Rosenberg]

Bro, didn't his voice even sound, like, turned up?

[Bascom]

He got turned up.

[Rosenberg]

But he's right.

[Bascom]

But that's how I feel inside. But. But, you know, interestingly enough, there's people who don't know what the Voting Rights act is or why it even existed in the first place. And which you. Which would then prompt a guy like that to unravel where it's like, don't y' all realize that these laws was so that people wouldn't be mean to other people? Like, and you could have literally why

[Rosenberg]

they exist, and you could have proper representation of people and not gerrymander. So black people would never have any representation.

[Ebro]

That's it.

[Bascom]

A Democrat has not gotten the majority white vote since Lyndon Johnson, who did

[Rosenberg]

the Civil Rights act and Voting Rights

[Bascom]

and Voting Rights Act. All of that stuff. All that stuff.

[Rosenberg]

That was it. That was. That was it. White people, basically. Not a lot. I mean, not. Not all. Sorry. Most white people. And say, you know what? We're gonna go Republican. That's it.

[Bascom]

So. But that stat tells you what our country's about. Democrats have not gotten majority of the white vote since 1960. What is that, eight?

[Rosenberg]

68.

[Bascom]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

No, 64 would have been the last election.

[Bascom]

64. Okay. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Because. And then voting rights was 65.

[Bascom]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

And then he's out in 68.

[Bascom]

So that was 68. Yeah. So since then, so when you're talking about race dynamics in America, I want you to sit with that. I think that's one of the more telling stats.

[Rosenberg]

And just. Just to be clear, if the election was decided, if every election since then had been decided by all black people or all Jews, we would have all of these things going the right direction every single time. But the non Jewish, white vote every single time errs on the side of what will be more likely to uphold these racist ideas.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

And go and work against it. So it's troubling. That's why when people hit you, that's why when these ignoramuses who got into politics two years ago because they're algorithm hustling, tell you. Did you know that the slave party of slavery used to be the Democrats? They're not factoring that the whole thing switched.

[Ebro]

No, no, no. They conveniently leave that out.

[Bascom]

Well, parties change all the time. Look, we're on the precipice of maybe the Democratic Party change. And I saw an article the other day where Bernie Sanders got like, 39 Democrats in the. In the Senate to vote against funding more arms to Israel. Yep. And a year ago, that was like, six. He was only able to get. And Chuck Schumer, who's supposed to be the majority leader of the Democrats in the Senate, was only able to get, like, six people to align with him.

[Rosenberg]

It is. I mentioned this also on the Patreon with my dad when we went to that Palestinian restaurant in Harlem this week and saw the crowd. And, yo, I know Netanyahu really wanted to kill people, and he's been successful in that. But if any of the thing that he was talking about was, like, people having any love or respect for Israel, could you have failed more?

[Bascom]

Congratulations.

[Rosenberg]

Democrats are running away from aipac. We thought that was impossible. Impossible.

[Bascom]

And by the way, it's only been 24 months.

[Rosenberg]

It hasn't been that long. And it has. You have whatever you thought was gonna work for you when October, after October 7th, when you said, we can take advantage of this and we can do this, guess what? It has worked the exact opposite for you.

[Ebro]

Yeah. I've never seen so many people care about who's aligned with aipac. Like, I see in the past couple,

[Rosenberg]

dude, they hadn't even heard of a pac.

[Bascom]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

People didn't even know what the word AIPAC or Zionist meant. And at first, I remember saying this on the show. At first, there was definitely a period where I thought Zionist was just being thrown around as an excuse to say Jew or some sort of way to hate Jewish people. And I think in some ways it was.

[Bascom]

I think there's people in there like

[Rosenberg]

that and there are people like that still. But because smart people exist as time has gone on. No, it's not that. People have done the work and understood that. That word doesn't mean that. That word means. No, you believe basically Israel or nothing. You guys have all the rights and they don't have any rights. You know what I'm saying? So it has. They have lost the public battle. Not just in the U.S. across Europe, across every. I mean.

[Bascom]

Well, they never had it. They never had it in the Middle East. Like, that's part of the problem. And I don't think they ever had it in. Across. Across Eastern. Eastern Europe and Asia either. I think it was really a Europe, America thing.

[Rosenberg]

But those are big ones to have.

[Bascom]

No, no, those are the ones.

[Rosenberg]

If you have. If you have Western Europe in America, you're basically good. And they are. They lost Western Europe. We've seen that. And now they're losing America. They've lost. They're losing American Jews in like, like,

[Bascom]

it's rad brought that up where the polls are showing, where it's like, you know, young American Jewish people are out.

[Rosenberg]

No, they're out. They're like, oh, yeah, I have fond thoughts of. I used to have fond thoughts of Israel, obviously. I don't want anything bad to happen there. I hope they can figure it out, but I'm not going. And I can't support this. And I want distance from it. And if they don't change it and it doesn't and there's not a complete overhauling of the whole thing, it will not be a part of my life in any way.

[Bascom]

Well, and both your dad and both your dad and Hasan Piker said the same thing about the more religious Orthodox Jews that are there in Israel now, really taking over the government and kind of the. The tone of society, which. It used to be more of a secular Jewish population in Israel and now it's becoming more of a religious. Well, just like extremist population.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, just like we've seen the extremists build in America and gain more in. In Israel, I think multiply that by a lot because of October 7th.

[Bascom]

Right.

[Rosenberg]

You know, it was. It's that in that way, Netanyahu was successful. If you view that if that success, if that success was trying to get people to be more right wing. Because I do firmly believe in my heart that if the people in peril on October 7 had been orthodox settlers. They would not have been slaughtered. I do believe that. I do believe that. Because they would have been protected. They would.

[Bascom]

The IDF would have been there.

[Rosenberg]

The protection of them would be because

[Bascom]

they were like, you know, peace loving.

[Rosenberg]

No, these were real. This isn't like a little thing to throw in those people at Nova Festival. We're talking about really peace loving people who legitimately were reaching, some of them reaching across the border to want to have relationships with Palestinian people in Gaza. Like that was. This isn't like a made up thing. They really were peaceniks.

[Bascom]

They were like building. Same way Itzhak Rabin and Yasha Arafat were trying to build. Build a bridge. These people were the same thing.

[Rosenberg]

And it's just.

[Bascom]

It just so happens.

[Rosenberg]

They just happen to be the.

[Bascom]

Just so happens that what's his name? It's Mar Ben Gvir has been present at both of the opportunities to build bridges and decimated them. The bridge that just so.

[Rosenberg]

The same guy who had his birthday celebration the other day had a noose on the kid.

[Ebro]

Oh, I saw that. I saw that.

[Bascom]

That was the guy that used to run around with the hubcap, assassinated Itzhak Rabin, who was trying to build a bridge and find a peace deal with Yasser Arafat between Palestinians.

[Rosenberg]

I need you to work on this. Just like Holly Berry, Itzhak has a yud in front of his name. It's Yitzhak.

[Bascom]

Yitzhak.

[Rosenberg]

You don't know the yud.

[Bascom]

I do know the yud, but I didn't. I didn't know it had a yud.

[Rosenberg]

The yud. It's like a little. It's a little apostrophe letter.

[Bascom]

You know what I'm saying? Get my yud on the.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, listen, by the way, this isn't gonna work because I've been telling this man her name is Halle, for that's Holly Bear. That's Holla Bear over there, man.

[Bascom]

Let's get to the rundown.

[Ebro]

Okay, now we didn't get to this yesterday, but why are people are making this into such a big deal? You guys saw the video of asap. Rocky and Rihanna, quote unquote, arguing after the Met gala.

[Rosenberg]

Look at this. Or dreary. All right, I'm watching.

[Ebro]

Is she annoying?

[Rosenberg]

She looks annoyed. Where are they? A car?

[Ebro]

Yeah, and they're sprinters.

[Bascom]

Sprinter with the lights on.

[Rosenberg]

Rocky looks mildly. I'm watching. I'm waiting for the fireworks. They're not happy, are they?

[Ebro]

Are they monkey?

[Rosenberg]

Monkey. Looks like. Shut your dumb ass up, loser. Wait, what freaking weirdos you're watching, too. Why are you filming this? Why is this a new Rocky and. Oh, are they arguing? I mean, let's keep filming. Let's keep filming these people having a private moment through their. How are they seeing through the TV over here, please,

[Bascom]

before it's. After going back into the hotel.

[Ebro]

Oh, yes, yes. I guess it was after Baby was like, look, they're starting to fall apart.

[Rosenberg]

That was.

[Ebro]

They're a normal couple. You know how many times we've done this?

[Rosenberg]

Like, I wasn't even bad, right?

[Bascom]

Yo, Rah, I got another video. You might want to throw this one up.

[Ebro]

Okay. Okay. More action.

[Bascom]

This is since. Since this got started moving yesterday. I forgot to send this over for this morning's program. I just sent it in the group chat.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Bascom]

There is a video where Rocky is, you know, talking to some person, a woman, while Rihanna's being interviewed, I think.

[Rosenberg]

Okay.

[Bascom]

And people are saying this was the. This is the moment.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, boy.

[Bascom]

Where Rihanna.

[Rosenberg]

For the record, that video we just watched, based on their facial expressions, that could have easily been a thing. Where they were both annoyed with something else together.

[Ebro]

Yes, for sure.

[Rosenberg]

Like, did you see. Blah, blah, blah. So you have to have a smile. Yo, man, validate me. Coming soon. This is why we all. We all live our life looking at other people and think they all look happy on Instagram.

[Bascom]

They were miserable in all the life.

[Rosenberg]

That's regular life.

[Ebro]

And I can't wait for them to be miserable, too, because.

[Rosenberg]

Right, but, like, y' all don't have moments when you're miserable with your part. You.

[Bascom]

But by the way, that wasn't even miserable.

[Rosenberg]

That wasn't even miserable.

[Bascom]

That could have been, like, so. Oh, so. Oh, so you think it was a good idea to put your daughter's hair like that last night? You thought that was a good idea?

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. Yeah, I did think it was a good idea.

[Bascom]

Well, I don't like when you do that.

[Rosenberg]

Well, guess what? You should do the hair then.

[Bascom]

Well, I didn't have time. I was putting on this outfit.

[Rosenberg]

Well, yeah, guess what? I was put on an outfit, too, and I managed to get it done.

[Bascom]

Well, no, but my outfit took hundreds

[Rosenberg]

of people to put on. Yeah, well, guess what? I managed to get it done. So how about next time you pull it together and handle it yourself?

[Bascom]

Who are you, Rocky or Re.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know, but either way. Either way, it's nothing.

[Bascom]

That.

[Rosenberg]

That is nut, bro. If that. First of all, I just want to say if that's the worst you ever get in a relationship, your relationship Your relationship is because there are times when the person you love more than anything in the world, your. Their eyes saying to you, I can't stand your ass right now. That's life. This is. Are y'. All. Do I live with each other?

[Bascom]

But there is something that we do have to like in the celeb culture and the whole kind of like, you know, I mean, this has always been tabloid culture, like, forever for sure. Where famous people are having real human moments. The regular. The rest of us are like, wow, they're being human. You know what I'm saying? It's like a weird thing that we all do where we think because you have money or because you have status and notoriety, you're not supposed to be going through the same things we are. And I think people kind of. They enjoy it because it makes their world the same thing with reality shows.

[Ebro]

All right, so we have the video.

[Bascom]

Let's see, let's see, let's see. So she's standing. Hey, how you doing tonight? Good.

[Rosenberg]

He's talking.

[Ebro]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

How are you?

[Bascom]

He's some blessings. You know, the backstage live. You know what I mean? What do you think about that Was good tonight. You had a good time tonight. Look, I just got here, man. I'm just happy to see everybody.

[Rosenberg]

She's not in a great mood.

[Bascom]

I caught you at as fast as. So look at.

[Rosenberg]

My God. See you again.

[Bascom]

Big love.

[Rosenberg]

Look.

[Bascom]

That's how you do it, huh? That's how I go, man.

[Rosenberg]

No, she's not in a great mood. You have no idea. She's not even paying attention to what's happening with him.

[Bascom]

But that's what the Internet. I'm just telling you what the Internet's saying. That's the moment he was talking to some. Because they want to make it about another woman.

[Ebro]

They do.

[Bascom]

They want to make it about another woman. For sure.

[Rosenberg]

That. Well, but that goes beyond what you were saying, though, about, like, it's relatable and people. That's just like, nasty.

[Bascom]

Well, no, because people in their relationships. You don't know that. Women always will from not all women, but many women make it about another woman when it may not be about another woman.

[Rosenberg]

True.

[Bascom]

And many men make it about another man when it may not be about another man.

[Rosenberg]

Ryan Reynolds here from IT Mobile. I don't know if you knew this, but anyone can get the same Premium Wireless for $15 a month plan that I've been enjoying. It's not just for celebrities. So do like I did and have one of your assistant's assistants switch you to Mint Mobile today. I'm told it's super easy to [e-mail]

[Ebro]

Switch upfront payment of $45 for 3 month plan equivalent to $15 per month. Required intro rate, first 3 months only, then full price plan options available, taxes and fees, extra fee, full [e-mail] that's just.

[Bascom]

I'm just saying this is a thing we see, we've all seen.

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

I have a friend in my life the other day. He was like, if this sums up men when you get to a certain age. He was like, oh, my wife went away for her birthday because she went to like the Amalfi coast with her girlfriends. I was like, oh, damn. You know, with her girlfriends. He was like, yeah, like four of them. I was like, bro, you know what happens on those trips. He was like, good, bro. God bless. I hope she did. I hope she had a good trip. Bro. I'm old. Have fun on your birthday trip. Like people are just so messy. Like, she, yeah, she looked cranky.

[Ebro]

She. Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Yo, bro, I just. I this.

[Bascom]

Well, especially when he was like, camera in her face, he's like, did you have a good time tonight? She was like, did you.

[Rosenberg]

Does she look like she had a great time? She doesn't look like she's having a great time.

[Ebro]

And I'm looking at you like, stop, leave me alone. And you're still here. You keep going.

[Rosenberg]

And these people like, because, because you could tell, like respectfully, whoever that was, like, somehow at these huge events, it's not just like Vogue in the New Yorker that gets in. There's a random person they see all the time.

[Bascom]

No, no, no. Now. And now it' just influencers.

[Ebro]

Yeah, yeah.

[Bascom]

Influencers are everywhere, bro. Cameras out, cameras out non stop. That's what they're paid to do. They're paid to get there and get

[Rosenberg]

the content creators, baby.

[Bascom]

Content creators and get it out and keep the algorithm pumping. That's that algo hustle, baby. Everybody's in on it.

[Rosenberg]

My dad loves that term, by the way. He thinks it's brilliant. He thinks algorithm hustling is a brilliant term.

[Bascom]

Thanks, mj.

[Rosenberg]

And I think that is a full. That is a. That is only hours, right? I don't.

[Bascom]

Anywhere.

[Rosenberg]

I don't think, I think that is if that becomes a thing. Algorithm hustling is a Here.

[Ebro]

No, I've already seen it moving around.

[Rosenberg]

Have you?

[Ebro]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Algorithm hustling is created here.

[Bascom]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Now, now, now.

[Bascom]

Got one. Hassan said, that's why I'm nine on the list, baby.

[Ebro]

What did Hasan say.

[Rosenberg]

No, he. He used another term. That's a common phrase for the same thing. Okay. Because obviously algorithm hustling.

[Bascom]

Yeah. But I forget what it would be like.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, oh. People say aura farming.

[Bascom]

Aura farming.

[Rosenberg]

That's a big one.

[Ebro]

It's annoying.

[Rosenberg]

They love aura farm farming.

[Bascom]

Clip farming. But clip farming is the actual act of the cutting. Act of cutting the clip and using it to. But that, I guess, in some sense is an algo hustle.

[Rosenberg]

Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure.

[Bascom]

It's not an aura farm. Let's be clear, Right?

[Rosenberg]

It's not. It's not quite or it's not mogging.

[Bascom]

No, no, no, no. Wait. What?

[Rosenberg]

It's not mogging.

[Ebro]

What's mocking?

[Rosenberg]

Yes.

[Ebro]

I don't know that one. Do you know that one, Louie?

[Rosenberg]

Today on this. On this.

[Ebro]

Louie doesn't know.

[Rosenberg]

Does it know this Thursday, May 7th, Bascom, you don't know? No, honestly. But no, no. I'm just saying on this day because it'll be reversed on another day. Okay. I am the least washed and I'm.

[Bascom]

Air horn.

[Rosenberg]

I. I had heard the phrase. I had heard the word shout out to everyone in the chat who's laughing at us, but I had heard the term mogul at some point from my nephew or niece or something. And now on Evolve, we have some young faction. They're called the MOG Squad.

[Bascom]

The MOG Squad.

[Rosenberg]

So I had to literally, on commentary, we were taping, be like, so what is mogging? And mogging is a thing that. I don't want to get this wrong. It's so embarrassing.

[Ebro]

Come on. If you get it wrong, they're going to cook you.

[Bascom]

Chat.

[Ebro]

Cook him.

[Rosenberg]

I'm generally right. It's when you take a picture of yourself near someone in a way to make them look bad. So. Meaning I'm standing over here looking schlubby today. Ebro has a look where he's all jacked up. He comes and stands, like, right in front of me or next to me, and it's like, ah, damn, he's Moggin Rosenberg to make me look weak. Look it up, Louie. But I think I'm all. I think that's. I'm pretty sure that's.

[Bascom]

Is it unbeknownst to you too? Like, you're just chilling on the wall and somebody comes and takes a photo and catches you in the back.

[Rosenberg]

I believe it's unbeknownst.

[Bascom]

Yeah.

[Rosenberg]

Yes, unbeknownst. Moggin. I believe that it was. Am I wrong? Turn Louis Mic on. If that's possible. We don't even know if it works.

[Bascom]

Okay. According to Urban Dictionary.

[Rosenberg]

Okay, okay. Very important.

[Bascom]

Lying down on a bench when doing

[Rosenberg]

so might be considered disrespectful or contemptuous.

[Bascom]

You didn't read this ahead of time. I could tell. No, you just.

[Rosenberg]

What's the first definition? What's the first. What does it say?

[Bascom]

That's the first.

[Rosenberg]

Say it again. Lying down on a bench when doing so.

[Bascom]

So might be considered.

[Rosenberg]

This is.

[Bascom]

This is your mic. I'm never turning your mic on again.

[Rosenberg]

First of all, the mic doesn't work.

[Bascom]

I don't know why it sounds like this is.

[Rosenberg]

You sure it's not like the next one next to him or something?

[Bascom]

Talk loop.

[Rosenberg]

Check, check, check.

[Ebro]

No, no,

[Bascom]

they told me guess, too. So that's what.

[Rosenberg]

So anyways. But that's. That's. That's mogging. Not to be confused with mogging.

[Bascom]

And that's an M O G. It's an M O. G. Or is it an MHG emoji?

[Ebro]

That's funny.

[Rosenberg]

Okay. The first thing that came up, by the way. By the way, first thing, I typed it in. AI overview.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

Mogging is Internet slang for dominating, outclassing, or appearing superior to someone else, particularly in terms of physical attractiveness, height, muscle, or style.

[Bascom]

You did it right. You did it right. Damn right.

[Ebro]

All right, all right.

[Bascom]

The Least Washed award goes to Rosenberg for the day.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, mogging, baby. You kids are.

[Bascom]

You might hold it for the week. Nah, but I was number nine on the complex list. Yeah, so, I mean, you kind of took it back for the day, though, because I had no idea.

[Rosenberg]

What? Mom, these words are so insane.

[Bascom]

I had no idea.

[Ebro]

All right, all right. So this was interesting. I saw Joy Ann Reid post this. Now look at this. IG is doing something really interesting. They're supposed to end their end to end encryption of dms.

[Bascom]

Okay, well, tell me what. So I hear these words often. I don't know what they really mean.

[Ebro]

Apparently, you know, people thought that when you're DMing somebody, it's like super private. No one has access to this info. It's encrypted. So it's only between you and the person you send it. I never believed it.

[Bascom]

Wait, time out. But people didn't think meta had access to that.

[Rosenberg]

Well, they did.

[Ebro]

No, that's because according to.

[Bascom]

No. No way that y' all believe that. There's no way that a normal human being believed that they logged into a location that they don't logged in.

[Ebro]

Ye. They mogged in. So stupid.

[Bascom]

And they sent a message to someone in that same thing that they don't own. And you thought it was just between you and that person and you don't think that they could access it if they want to.

[Rosenberg]

Of course. But they called it encrypted.

[Bascom]

It was. They were lying to.

[Rosenberg]

So now. But so then why is it even news then?

[Bascom]

Why is it news? Because now they've basically stopped lying to you about it.

[Rosenberg]

Right. We're just gonna be open about it when it comes up. Just know like once we. But that's the piece because now we're going to start using it for things.

[Ebro]

And look, this is just what people on the Internet are saying, right? I'm just telling you, these are comments that I read. But people think that they're trying to build an anti Trump like database. They're like, okay, this is going to help them. You know how they're building their little database of journalists, people who are anti ice, by the way. They're going to put them in that. Let me move all of these people in that department.

[Bascom]

It's already done.

[Ebro]

It's happening.

[Bascom]

No, no, no, it's done. It's done. If you liked something, they know it. If you commented on something, they know it. F the DMS and the WhatsApps and all of this encrypted stuff. Like if you posted, liked, whatever, they know it already. It's done. It's done. So, and remember the Pfizer courts were

[Rosenberg]

renewed within the past couple weeks. The FISA courts, what now? Like the Pfizer, of course. You know how they go to the FISA courts to get like a warrant from somebody, you know, in private and things like I can't listen to Louie because I'm too annoyed to see him talking into a microphone.

[Ebro]

That doesn't work.

[Bascom]

I know it works for on air it sounds like he's like over there.

[Rosenberg]

So that what it sounds like it's

[Bascom]

giving over there somewhere value.

[Rosenberg]

I was just reminding Laura that when we got off the air yesterday.

[Ebro]

Yes.

[Rosenberg]

We saw the news also that Ted Turner died.

[Bascom]

Yeah. He was a founder of CNN and TBS and a bunch of stuff.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, well every, I mean when it comes to tv, bro. Because it's, it's that whole Turner family, Turner Classics, CNN's the biggest one. But TBS. Yeah. He brought, you know, you know, so for sports he was huge. For wrestling he was gigantic. They, they, he eventually bought WCW and did all that stuff. But like Ted Turner is like, he was kind of the. I hate to say that he's like the American Rupert Murdoch to some extent. Not as big as Rupert Murdoch. Not as powerful in terms of news, but big. I mean, CNN. CNN, hello. Yeah, it's the first 24 hour cable news network. I mean, he completely changed, for better or for worse, what the news cycle looks like and how we consume news media.

[Ebro]

Correct. Wow. 87 years old. Wow.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah. The media maverick and philanthropist who founded cnn. This is according to cnn. Yeah. That's young Ted Turner.

[Ebro]

Yeah. Cool pig.

[Bascom]

I just. Only thing I remember about Ted Turner was him being controversial.

[Rosenberg]

Well, over what?

[Bascom]

Just him just being outspoken. Controversial. I know. I don't remember what it was. Yeah, but it was something. It was some business stuff, billionaire stuff. I know he had a thing with Jesse Jackson at one point.

[Rosenberg]

Things with lots of people, for sure.

[Bascom]

Yeah. But I, I just remember him because of, I don't know, his money and like there with the cigar and that

[Rosenberg]

kind of controversial comments. I'm looking on Wikipedia.

[Bascom]

Let's go.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Bascom]

Controversial.

[Rosenberg]

Turner once called observers of Ash Wednesday Jesus freaks.

[Bascom]

Okay, that's controversial, though.

[Rosenberg]

He apologized and dubbed opponents of abortion bozos.

[Bascom]

So far, Ebro's like, no, no, I just said controversial. I don't, I don't remember being controversial.

[Rosenberg]

I mean, that to you, everything he's saying is you're kind of like, it's controversial.

[Bascom]

Same reason I get in trouble.

[Rosenberg]

I feel you, Ted. In 1999, Turner made a joke about Polish mind detectors when asked about Pope John Paul ii. After a harsh response from the Polish deputy foreign minister, Turner apologized. In 2002, Turner accused Israel of terror.

[Bascom]

This guy was early.

[Rosenberg]

The Palestinians are fighting with human suicide bombers. That's all they have. The Israelis, they've got one of the most powerful military machines in the world. The Palestinians have nothing. So who are the terrorists? I would make a case that both sides are involved in terrorism.

[Bascom]

There you go.

[Rosenberg]

I don't know this Ted Turner guy sounds somewhat reasonable.

[Ebro]

When was this? When he say this?

[Bascom]

2002.

[Rosenberg]

He apologized for that. And the remarks in 2011 about the 911 hijackers. But what was the line about that? But defended himself. Look, I'm a very good thinker, but sometimes I grab the wrong word. I mean, I don't type my speeches and sit up there and read them off a teleprompter. I wing it. Also in 2008, Turner asserted on Charlie Rose that if steps are not taken to address global warning, most people would die and the rest of us would be cannibals. Turner also said in the interview that he advocated Americans having no more than two children. Yo,

[Bascom]

come on down.

[Rosenberg]

And join the show. My guy come back.

[Bascom]

He was trying man.

[Rosenberg]

In 2010 he stated that China's one child policy should be implemented.

[Ebro]

That's a little rough but personal life.

[Rosenberg]

Married and divorced three times. Jane Shirley Smith for 23 years. Jane Fonda that was the big one for 10 years now. Not shocking that he married Jane Fonda who you know the people who hated anti Vietnam. People hated her and called her Hanoi Jane because she was super anti war. So that makes a little bit more Sense. He has five children. In a television interview with Piers Morgan in 2012 he said he had four girlfriends which he acknowledged was complicated but nonetheless easier than being married. Yo, my man. I'll tell you one thing that seems clear. This is another example of someone who seemed like he lived a very full life. 87 years.

[Bascom]

Well yeah, he lived a full life. I know. I knew he was seen as controversial. I definitely agree with some of his takes. Unfortunately.

[Rosenberg]

Owner Hawks former owner Braves Thrashers WCW started Ted's Montana Grill tnt, tbs, CNN Cartoon Network found co founder of the nuclear threat Initiative.

[Bascom]

But it seems like as he's leaving us we didn't get any ground Ted.

[Rosenberg]

No and not only that his company that he intended to be this yeah fair. More fair even thing to look at is losing its whole thing. Whole thing as we speak they CNN ain't seeing CNN anymore. So it's. It's interesting. It's gonna be interesting to see what happens in that landscape. You know I know what's his face. Oh George Soros, his son and the Soros company they've now bought some into radio like their part in an odyssey and things like that and it's gonna be interesting to see whether they step up and get more stuff done for Lemon Media.

[Bascom]

Well some of these. But remember these approvals have to be put through for by whom.

[Ebro]

Good luck.

[Bascom]

Good old reliable the MAGA White House. Yeah you know I mean the box but by the way there. There are things up there. Are you going with the rundown?

[Ebro]

Yes, yes, yes I was gon.

[Bascom]

Thank you for the rundown. Go to, go to clip six there. Rah. The MAGA movement and the Maha movement people are. They're losing it.

[Ebro]

You cannot tell Americans to eat real food while protecting the cancer causing chemicals sprayed on it. You're not loud enough right now. Inside that building Monsanto bear will be arguing for the right to poison us and not be held accountable.

[Rosenberg]

A crowd of hundreds from across the political spectrum gathered to raise their voice in 2016. Argued that it should be off the hook from Lawsuits about their weed killer

[Bascom]

called Roundup, which is now known to cause cancer.

[Ebro]

And right now, the US Supreme Court is considering a decision that could strip away one of our most basic rights, the right to be warned and the right to seek justice when we are harmed. They want to give us cancer and get away with it. We are here to make sure that does not happen, and we are not going to leave here quietly.

[Rosenberg]

President Trump's administration is backing Bayer in the case and is advocating to protect the sale of glyphosate, a known carcinogen found in Roundup. Even voters who had supported him in

[Bascom]

the past said the ref, I wouldn't

[Ebro]

be here right now if President Trump didn't sign the executive order to give glyphosate a national defense priority.

[Bascom]

They say Israel spray glyphosate on go.

[Rosenberg]

This is not making America healthy again.

[Bascom]

Permanently hurt generations.

[Ebro]

I am here to fight against the poison being put in our foods. I am fighting for my future kids that they don't have to go onto Google to find a farm that doesn't spray their crops and that they can find good vegetables that they can trust in the grocery store that won't cost a fortune.

[Rosenberg]

Man. RFK is.

[Ebro]

Yeah, I. I want to slap all these people.

[Rosenberg]

That was.

[Bascom]

Wait, you guys thought. You guys thought RFK was.

[Rosenberg]

Was.

[Ebro]

That's why you thought that's your answer? You think this administration was going to give you clean food, healthy food you can't have.

[Bascom]

For anybody paying attention out there, any. Any administration or politician you vote for that is not aligned with checks and balances. And. And even more specifically, not for working class people. Against. Corporations will always likely align with corporations and their profits. Oftentimes those profits. Right. Harm large populations of people because they want to cut corners and make things cheaper to make more of a profit.

[Ebro]

That's what it is at the end of the day.

[Bascom]

Right?

[Ebro]

So they care about.

[Bascom]

That's what this is all about, gang. You guys want to get the gurus on the wrap?

[Rosenberg]

I don't know if we have. Don't have time for the gurus.

[Bascom]

We could do a quick one. Come on, baby.

[Rosenberg]

All right, all right, fine. A lot going on. Rosenberg.

[Bascom]

Listen, you got a billboard in Times Square. Are you out here?

[Rosenberg]

No, it's the end of it. I had a week.

[Bascom]

I'm still number nine.

[Ebro]

All right, all right, all right. The Original [e-mail]. the original gurus. Gmail.com.

[Rosenberg]

you're Roger Maris, bro. I think Maris. Nine, right. Damn, Lou, you're not even sure he's supposed to be a Yankee guy.

[Ebro]

Who's out there? Who's, who needs us? Who's writing to us?

[Rosenberg]

The original gurus. Gmail.com. the original gurus. Gmail.Com. your destination, for clarity. Oh, this one goes to Peter. Laura, just want to say, been a loyal friend of the show for a decade. Okay, we love you. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Okay, now in November, where does this from? Oh, no, this one's old. The guy retracted it. But I'll read it to you anyway.

[Ebro]

Okay.

[Rosenberg]

He said, my wife's sister passed away at 39. An amazing woman on the right side of history. My wife inherited two of her pets, a 21 year old cat who was sweet as all hell. But inevitably we had to put her down because of health reasons, which was done in home for comfort to her. The second is a beautifully highly needy, cavalier cocker spaniel. The problem is, while we love and have cats because cats are amazing. Laura. Lol. We never wanted to have a dog. Not to disparage dogs because I love dogs and pretty much all animals, but I know both Laura and Pete are more recently have lost canine companions. So I was just wondering if either of you would want to adopt mine or my wife's dog. Also Ebro, if you want to, you sure as shit can too. But also if you have any good ideas for rehoming, that would be helpful because this dog ain't going to no shady shelter. We care for this dog immensely. Love you guys and hope you keep doing what you do. Also, just want to let you know, I don't listen live, not a slate, because I get to work at 8, so I'm already busy. But I listen to the first part of the previous day in the morning on my way to work and the second part in the afternoon on my way home.

[Ebro]

Nice.

[Rosenberg]

Okay, so we appreciate that information. That sounds like a complicated situation because you love the dog and you want to do right by the dog and it's your sister's dog, your wife's sister's

[Bascom]

dog,

[Rosenberg]

but you don't like that. But the dog and the cats isn't a great thing.

[Ebro]

I mean, listen, I think, I think their heart is in the right place. At least you know, they, they're not gonna just let the dog go to go to a shady shelter. So maybe make an Instagram post or like put it on Facebook and you know, tell people how you feel. Love this dog. Amazing, you know, amazing pup. But you might, you might have to

[Rosenberg]

do this hand to hand though. Like if you want to really, obviously, here's what you can't do. Here's what I'm telling him as the partner that he can't do. You cannot allow for there to be a situation where afterwards your wife is going, oh, my God, do you think the dog's okay?

[Ebro]

Right. Make sure that wherever you send that pup, you're going to be like, that's a good home.

[Rosenberg]

And you can check in and you feel good about it. Because as much as there may be complications about having the dog with the animals you have in your house, that's not nearly as complicated as a world in which your wife questions if she did right by her sister who is no longer here.

[Ebro]

Don't want that.

[Rosenberg]

You know what I'm saying? You can't be like. So just depending on who's more aggressive in this, whether it's you who wants to move on with, you know, move the dog or just be mindful.

[Ebro]

That's it.

[Rosenberg]

Super mindful.

[Ebro]

Yeah. But just explore your inner circle first. And like, that way you can find somebody that you at least trust or have some faith in.

[Rosenberg]

And maybe in the meantime, while you're figuring, figuring it out, you're really the dog. The dog and the cats will find a way to coexist and you'll go, you know what? This is kind of working out. It's actually fun.

[Bascom]

Or some people just leave the gate open.

[Ebro]

Yeah, we're not gonna do that.

[Rosenberg]

You're going with the Shawnee solution.

[Ebro]

We're not gonna do that. All right.

[Rosenberg]

The shiny solution is not an option here.

[Ebro]

No open doors.

[Rosenberg]

What happened to Butch? What happened to Sparky, Cagney and Lacy? Know what were the two names?

[Bascom]

I forgot.

[Ebro]

Forgot.

[Bascom]

I forgot.

[Rosenberg]

There was no. There was the two. Damn, we're getting old.

[Bascom]

Starsky and Hutch. No, it was like that. It was like that.

[Rosenberg]

Damn. You're in the chat. You remember. I know Butch. I know Butch for sure.

[Ebro]

Right, right, right.

[Rosenberg]

It was definitely a Butch. Bonnie, Clyde. Bonnie and Clyde.

[Bascom]

That's what it was. Bonnie and Clyde, yo.

[Rosenberg]

That's what it was. B. Ron Basine Ron.

[Ebro]

Love you guys.

[Bascom]

Yo, the ELR show bask tomorrow morning at 8:00'. Clock. If you missed the patreon with Rosenberg's dad, it's available now. Go ahead, subscribe.

[Rosenberg]

And, and we. And, and we didn't even preview properly tonight's verses that you're off to.

[Bascom]

I was just going to say off to LA to handle the verses. It will be Rick Ross, Vers, French Montana, which should be fun. And plus they got a lot of collabs together. So it be a good night.

[Rosenberg]

So. So it's a French Montana Rick Ross concert, basically. The other. I just want to say what's the over under for number of people on stage?

[Bascom]

Oh God, I'm going 75.

[Rosenberg]

Yeah, I like.

[Bascom]

I like 75.

[Rosenberg]

I like 75. And I'm going just under Ross.

[Bascom]

By the way, salute to French and Ross both respectively and separately for the music that they've been putting out recently too.

[Rosenberg]

Good tunes? Nah. Friendship. Friendship. Max me impressed me.

[Bascom]

You know, this is why I'm ranked number nine on Complex because we cover hip hop. Hey yo, check that MJ combo. Check versus tonight, 9:30 Eastern, 6:30 Pacific,

[Rosenberg]

and right when it's done, you could listen to shade 45 and check out real late with Peter Roseberg because I

[Bascom]

do hip hop still. That's gonna get you back on the list.

[Rosenberg]

Back on the list, baby. Next year.

[Bascom]

Just don't call it a podcast.