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Laura Rosenberg
Just don't call it a podcast. Yo, we're live. Drop the beat. He pro Lord Rosenberg. Okay, all right. Okay is exactly right. We got things to get to today. Well, first things first. Rosenberg and I will debating just before we came live on the, on the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show. Please subscribe, please share, please comment, please engage in some sort of way. We'd love to know you, we'd love to hear from you. That when we launched our Patreon yesterday, I went into full meltdown. I don't want to hear from Rosenberg right now. And you can go to our Patreon Ebro Laura Rosenberg or the ELR show. You can search it both ways. It's 9.99. Or you could, you know, buy up the whole year. You know what I'm saying? Keep this thing alive. Laura, do you think I went to full meltdown?
Laura Styles
Not full, because I've seen worse.
Ebro Darden
I, I didn't argue full. Yeah, Laura, I didn't say full. I said he melted down.
Laura Styles
You definitely stepped on it.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, you do. Like, relatively quickly. You ended up in a, Let me say this, you were legitimately, at least moderately unhinged.
Laura Rosenberg
It happens.
Ebro Darden
Like unglue just a bit. I wouldn't say full. No, full meltdown. That's different. That's different.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, I think, I think, I don't know. Rosenberg, I spoke to you again yesterday. Afterwards, I, I, I get triggered by, well, this trip. What triggered me was Rasan, our cameraman, sending Rosenberg a text, trying to explain to Rosenberg how to conduct, basically offering up a clip during the show. Like, like he needed to give Rosenberg direction, which then sent me into a tailspin of like, yo, do people understand how the Hot 97 Ebro in the morning thing actually functioned? Or do they think we just showed up every day and, like, were like some rando talents who just happen to have a microphone, right?
Ebro Darden
And if it wasn't for the great management who coached us up, we wouldn't have been able to do it. Like, do they understand that we were winning and doing great for years? And the people running around who would be leading us did not even know what was happening. It was just a completely self contained operation.
Laura Rosenberg
Well and, and I didn't know. Like I, I think I'm at a stage in my, in my life where I'm looking around and I'm like do people know how I got here? Do people know what I actually do? I don't think so. Do people know the actual work that I'm able to accomplish things I've done on behalf of major corporations on a day to day basis. The teams I met, they know nothing. They just think I get in front of a microphone like but by the way it's not their fault because a lot of people just get in front of a microphone and just go and don't have any behind the scenes planning, programming, organization or managerial skills.
Laura Styles
My favorite thing that I read the other day was like them trying to make fun of you. Like look at you at your little Apple music little show. Haha. Don't you, don't you know that we all know that the real money goes to the executives?
Ebro Darden
You.
Laura Rosenberg
I was like oh I, I, I'm one of those too.
Ebro Darden
But that did you know what that's, that's worthy of the congratulations you played yourself.
Laura Rosenberg
It's like. But I, but you know what? People don't know and so, and I don't talk about it. So I guess hit me with the button because if I'm frustrated maybe I should do more. Pat myself on the back and doing interviews and running around and talking about all the things I'm involved in.
Laura Styles
People.
Laura Rosenberg
But I never wanted to be that person.
Laura Styles
Call you a program director and that hasn't happened in how many years?
Laura Rosenberg
Whoa. 10?
Laura Styles
More than 10, I think.
Ebro Darden
No, just.
Laura Rosenberg
Yeah. I haven't even been, I haven't even the last. Some people ask me about Summer Jam still. I haven't been involved in Summer Jam since the Pandemic. The last one. Pandemic maybe.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Laura Rosenberg
Probably right after.
Ebro Darden
I even have moments at my other show. God bless. God bless my other show. Don Hana Rosenberg Having a great time over there at ESPN New York. And this happened was when it was the K show too. I love my co hosts and I love everyone's ideas but sometimes I will throw out an idea and I see people like. And I want to like smash the table and be like guys, I've been coming up with ideas that win in New York City in the morning since 2007. Why don't you just believe me? I love you guys. I love you guys. But I turned the winning on quite a bit when I got here. And it wasn't just cause I'm like great on the air. I know I have learned through the years at hot ways to trigger things and get things off. Trust me, I'm not just throwing things at the wall willing. But we live in an era Ebro, where like, I don't want to say specifically, but there's someone in my orbit where I do things who is so bad and on air so bad. And I talk about it with someone else, I work with them.
Laura Rosenberg
When you say bad for the people watching and listening right now, what do you mean? Do you mean, do you mean not entertaining? Do you mean unprofessional? Do you mean. What do you mean? Because there's a lot of ways to be bad at doing this because there are some people who are. Mike comes on entertaining, captivating. Maybe they don't speak well and you might say they're a bad speaker. However, very entertaining. Right.
Ebro Darden
So. Yeah, yeah, for sure. So. So what I'm referring to is it's not that they're stupid or don't have any, you know, anything interesting to say there, There could be some interesting things to say in there, but the packaging of it is done so badly and no one. And this is very common, I found. I don't know how you guys feel in my, in my time in entertainment, rarely do people coach anymore at all.
Laura Styles
No, that doesn't happen.
Ebro Darden
They just let the person go. And I'm like, you really want this to be representing the product? Like this is because this is representing other people who are professional and did put in the work and when you don't and. And now we live in an era where if someone has, you know, some followers, someone see someone cares about what.
Laura Rosenberg
They want to see goes viral, just.
Ebro Darden
Give them, throw them on and they forget that being a broadcaster is not the same as content creation.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
Like there actually is something here that's professional.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, and then being able to do both, right. Create content, make people laugh, also take serious angles and have serious insights on things, have music skills. Right. Able to play music, present music, pick hits. Right. Like all of these things are different talents. Some people have all of them. Some people have some of them. But I think, yeah, we're living at a time where the audience doesn't know the difference and. And won't really know the difference until they start to like compare and contrast.
Ebro Darden
Right.
Laura Rosenberg
And so that's what my unraveling as they have framed it was about, was this kind of world that we're in where it's like, yo, so y' all think because I'm not doing the morning show anymore at that radio station at somehow everything that I did there, which you may not know about, or everything that I was doing on a day to day basis to keep that thing focused and targeted is just left there and it can't be duplicated again.
Ebro Darden
Well, but this is why one of my frustrations with the last many years there said I to be at a place that's rudderless is really challenging. Speaking of which, I'm glad you said that station. I don't want to send you E. Around the bend, but I'd also be remiss to not. I'm sorry, I have to do what's right for the world and say what needs to be said.
Laura Styles
Okay.
Ebro Darden
Yo, they. They played the clip of Ebro. I'm being. Our faults are telling us that they played the clip of Ebro talking to Rocky on Hot and wouldn't reference Ebro in the club.
Laura Rosenberg
Y' all trolling me. Y' all trolling.
Ebro Darden
That's.
Laura Rosenberg
And by the way, I'm not saying the audience is trolling. I'm saying Mero and Cass, Mia Bell.
Ebro Darden
Maybe they got an instruction.
Laura Rosenberg
Cass and Juanito, y' all trolling.
Laura Styles
Maybe they got an instruction.
Laura Rosenberg
Yeah, no, they did get an instruction. And the people who gave him that instruction, y' all trying to get. Y' all trying to. Y' all trying to get me active out here. Y' all trying to activate. Why? Why? Why? But, but you know what? Once again, this is bad management because the audience knows. So you look stupid.
Ebro Darden
The audience knows. And if you want the show to be successful, you want them to gain as many people as they can. If they show love to us, it will endear them to people in the morning show audience that's already there. Because I don't know if you know this, we had a really big audience that we cultivated over the last 18 and a half years. So, like, you can't pay for that sort of camaraderie with audience.
Laura Rosenberg
But you can do not only that, but. But also just camaraderie between shows. Like, we're not competing. This is not a. This shouldn't be a competition to them. Right? Like, people could go, listen to Mero and that squad. People could bounce over here and listen to this. People can listen to this later. Listen to that live. People have options. And you know what? We live in a world where human beings exercise them and that's what they love. Many people love about the time and place we're in, in the media landscape is they have plenty of options to choose from. They don't have to stick to one place. They don't have to feel trapped to one audience or one, you know, content distributor. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah, y' all trying to troll me with that. I'm not falling for that.
Ebro Darden
No, don't. Don't take the. Don't take the banana in the tailpipe. You don't. You don't need that. And.
Laura Rosenberg
And it's probably. Honestly, I bet you it was. And this is my bet. My bet is there was no instruction to do that. They just played it safe out of fear.
Laura Styles
Sure.
Laura Rosenberg
They played it safe out of fear, not knowing what to do, because they're all green. Many of them are green. And many of the people in that room or all the people in that room aren't in a position to make an executive decision.
Ebro Darden
Right. No, that's. That's. Oh, no. How could they be? And by the way, shout out to Kaz, who got this amazing opportunity from this area. Always been a supporter of ours. Wonderful guy, loves Hot 97, respects the brand, and yet got this opportunity. You're not showing up there and then being like, let me just take a risk for no reason, because it's an unnecessary risk.
Laura Rosenberg
Well. And it's way too soon.
Ebro Darden
So, you know, listen, that. Who are they to take advice from us? We're like, nah, trust us. You're fine. Take as many risks you want. What could happen? Shoot some shots.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, but I do appreciate the promo. Y' all not gonna get me out of pocket today. I'm just not in the mood for that. I do appreciate the promo. And. And my Apple music show is live every day. All you do is hit the Apple music app and you can hit radio. And I'm there live every day. Three o'. Clock. It's all music. It's like, you know, damn near 95 music I'm playing. Yesterday I started the show, it was cold outside, so I started with reggae classics. Oh. Vinnie McLean. You know what I'm saying?
Ebro Darden
I don't know about. You don't know about Betty McLean, my guy.
Laura Rosenberg
Some under me slang tang. Yeah.
Ebro Darden
I mean, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Laura Rosenberg
You know what I'm saying? Some Barrington Levy. It was vibes, man. And then I jump on Tick Tock. Yo, and. And yo, man, somebody got to be paying these people to work as hard as they do to hate on me, man.
Ebro Darden
On. On Tick Tock. What was on TikTok?
Laura Rosenberg
Yeah. Just the. The comments live. And I play records on Tick Tock because you can't do it on ig. So I'll start on ig like, yo, you know, I'm about to go live on the air. You know, everybody tune in. Then I'll jump over to Tick Tock and go for, like, 30 minutes live, blending some records, picking some songs, having fun, whatever. And then. But there's people who literally every day spend 30 minutes or however long I'm on live, just trolling.
Laura Styles
It's so funny. And what kind of. I just think, what kind of a loser are you to be like, okay, 30 minutes of my time right now.
Allie Jackson
To be a hater?
Laura Rosenberg
That's why I said it. Got to be paid. You have to be paid actors.
Ebro Darden
I mean, listen, it's in the comments.
Laura Styles
You're giving them a lot, a lot of credit.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, no, no, no. And I'm into it. Because you're working hard. This is, like, real work. Because they just keep posting, and I'm not responding. So you just keep posting.
Laura Styles
Keep posting, and we'll take the engagement.
Laura Rosenberg
Now we got the ELR Army. The ELR army jumps in there. The EL army jumps in and starts mixing it up and promoting this show. It's pretty good.
Ebro Darden
Oh, I love that. I love that. That works for us. I just pulled up my TikTok live. I'm gonna see if I just sit here and do absolutely nothing. I never go on live just to see if hateful people just show up, just to be like, ao fu.
Laura Rosenberg
Let me see. I'm gonna turn on my TikTok live right now too.
Ebro Darden
Is there a way we could collab? How does this work? Two boomers. Two boomers. Invite another host. Hold on. Invite another host and go live together. Hold up.
Laura Rosenberg
Yeah, no, you absolutely could do that.
Ebro Darden
I'mma see. I'm. I'm going invite you. Hold on.
Laura Rosenberg
All right.
Laura Styles
The search for hate.
Ebro Darden
Because they're there, Laura, trust me. The other day, I posted something about football. I posted about. It says, you're not on live, so I guess you have to go.
Laura Rosenberg
I just jumped in. I just jumped in.
Ebro Darden
Let's see.
Laura Rosenberg
Invite. Invite. I'mma invite you.
Ebro Darden
No, no, no. Hold on. I'm already there. I'm already. Oh, you already invited me. Okay, here we go.
Laura Rosenberg
See? Boom.
Ebro Darden
Look at us now.
Laura Rosenberg
Turn your volume down. Don't be a weirdo.
Ebro Darden
I did. I did. My volume is down.
Laura Rosenberg
All right, we are live on TikTok right now. Make sure you subscribe. Ebro, Laura Rosenberg.
Ebro Darden
Yep. So, guys, I posted the other day on. On Twitter, something about the Bills game.
Laura Rosenberg
The.
Ebro Darden
The catch, no catch thing. I believe it was that, right?
Laura Rosenberg
And that was your. Your video that you posted.
Ebro Darden
Maybe it was the video. I posted a few things about football. I know it was related to football.
Laura Rosenberg
Got it. Got it.
Ebro Darden
And someone jumped on and started talking ish about my daughter on a football post.
Laura Styles
What?
Ebro Darden
Yo, what's. What's up with your daughter's eyes? It looks like she's got fetal alcohol syndrome.
Laura Rosenberg
Whoa, Whoa. What? What?
Ebro Darden
Literally as nasty as humanly possible. And by the way, I looked and I. And I commented back, and then saw it was not a bot. Like, this was a real. It was a former listener. He knew things about me. He was like, yeah, you know, snowflakes like you who take paternity leave. I was like, oh, you actually look.
Laura Rosenberg
You're a fan.
Ebro Darden
No, you're like a fan.
Laura Styles
And screenshot it and put his profile up. Post it.
Laura Rosenberg
Put it on your story. Here we go.
Laura Styles
People are. You know, because they hide. They write all these disgusting things. Like, you got to be a loser, a complete loser to write negative things about children.
Ebro Darden
Imagine her. Like, I always think about that. Your friends and family, if they knew that you respond to radio host and you talk about their newborn children and insult them, you would be proud to be that person. That's who you want to be in your life, bro.
Laura Styles
Screenshot his profile. Make it live.
Laura Rosenberg
We are. There are degenerates out here.
Ebro Darden
The lawyer's ready.
Laura Styles
He's coming from my knees.
Ebro Darden
Tia Styles is ready to spice this thing up.
Laura Rosenberg
There's a lot of degenerates out here, and one of them is the President of the United States. I don't know if you guys saw this guy rambling at the World Economic Forum.
Ebro Darden
Well, I. I thought about this last night. I said. I said, if Ebro. I said, if Trump in. In Switzerland didn't make it to Ebro's weird algorithm, I'm gonna be unhinged.
Laura Rosenberg
Trump in Switzerland was. Wow. They were just letting him freestyle. And why was he standing at the podium and the other guy was sitting behind him on the seat? Like, did he not want to sit down with the guy? What. What was the setup here?
Ebro Darden
Are you talking about?
Laura Rosenberg
He just walked out and rambled like. I don't understand, bro.
Ebro Darden
The. The speech was insane. And this was a really interesting one because so many other people were there. Like, not all these world leaders were there, but then even, you know, Gavin Newsom was there. Al Gore was there.
Laura Rosenberg
Yes.
Ebro Darden
All these. All these Democrats Are there too listening and grilling this dude as he makes. Yo, Ebro. He referred to Greenland blatantly as Iceland multiple times.
Laura Rosenberg
Was it blatant or. He just doesn't know the difference.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, sorry, sorry. I guess you're right. Was it blatant or he does.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, you remember that's Darth dementia right there. So we don't know what's going on upstairs.
Ebro Darden
I thought about. I don't want to get our things. Like, I don't want to get us to taken down. So I won't. We won't be able to play it. I guess it'll be good for Patreon next week, but it'll be old by then. Yo, Kimmel, bro. Last night when I. Before I went to bed, I opened YouTube for a second and the Kimmel got recommended to me. He. It just. It had just went up. Yo, yo, Ebro, respectfully, you think that you go hard.
Laura Rosenberg
Kimmel goes hard, bro.
Ebro Darden
On the size of the platform that everything about his wife, about him in bed, about. Yo, did you hear the line that Trump said they love being in. In Greenland before they were calling me daddy someone.
Laura Rosenberg
Oh, yeah, they called it. No, he was talking about Europe.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, he said, they called me. They were calling me daddy. Kim was like, no, no, you can't hear. They were calling you fatty. Yo. He lit one zing after another on like. And then they break down his. They call it present dementia and they just show him flubby. Yo, Kimmel doesn't care. He wants more smoke. He's ready for it.
Laura Rosenberg
Yo, I'm shouting out to people who the. My. One of my favorite things on Social too, and with the haters is a, they don't know what's going on. So they don't know all the different endeavors we have going on. B, someone goes, this is where you ended up. I've been sitting in this seat at this. At this point for years. They're saying, this is where I ended up. But I think they mean Tik Tok Live. I think that's what they mean.
Ebro Darden
Oh, here we go. I got Rosenberg Sucks Diddy. I got. Okay, I got Carton owns you.
Laura Rosenberg
Okay, okay, then we have user 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 2136. Who says one minute in and I'm already hearing about Trump. Oh, my God, give it a rest. You're not. You don't. You don't even have a name.
Ebro Darden
You're not a real person.
Laura Rosenberg
You don't even have a picture.
Laura Styles
Yeah, I mean, it's A good time. All right, end it because, you know, I think it's official. I think either was it today or yesterday when TikTok is now officially owned by Oracle.
Laura Rosenberg
Yeah. The Ellison family has now taken over your TikTok. So if you're still on TikTok, you must know that Zionist Trump enthusiast right wing psychopaths now control all the algorithm, your data and everything on TikTok.
Ebro Darden
Perfect.
Laura Styles
It's going to change.
Ebro Darden
It always does, bro.
Laura Rosenberg
And let's never forget all of this. China is getting our data. You know, this is a national security risk, tick tock, blah, blah, blah. Was just so your data and your behavior on TikTok could get moved into an American corporation that also owns Paramount, right, that also owns a lot of the federal infrastructure for data management, so that they could bundle all this behavior together and study the population or monitor the population, either or, and wouldn't have to go through China. Meanwhile, simultaneously, all of this data, all of this usage, all of your behavior is sold to the highest bidder, AKA advertiser, around the world anyway. So they have access to the data anyway. They just wanted to take TikTok and give it to an American corporation, one of Trump's buddies. That's really what this is about.
Laura Styles
Let's be specific. Trump's buddy and donor.
Laura Rosenberg
Absolutely.
Ebro Darden
So also let's not leave out the fact that, you know, Trump saw the stock market, it seems plunge and itched up on the tough talk and very clearly stated in that speech yesterday, we will not show force in Greenland. We will not. And there's a reason he worded it because at first he almost fumbled his way through it and then was like, we won't. It was like someone told him, you have to make it official that the United States is not going to do something that stupid so the market can rebound.
Laura Rosenberg
You think it was market related?
Ebro Darden
I'm not smart enough to know these things. That is what Al Gore said and that is what other people were saying with algorithm.
Laura Rosenberg
I mean listen, he invented the Internet, so I'll go with facts.
Ebro Darden
He that that is the belief people have because like it didn't come from any other sort of, you know, world view or understanding, but that because it hit the market so badly, they were like, oh, you gotta back off and say this isn't happening.
Laura Rosenberg
But now you know, but well, and also the fact that, you know, yesterday we reported here, Canada, Europe, the European Union are all basically like, yeah, no, we need to get our military together and get our independence together separate from the United States. We need to have our own relationships around the world. Yeah. Psychos can't be trusted. Exactly. Hit the button.
Laura Styles
To no surprise.
Ebro Darden
It's. It's a disaster.
Laura Rosenberg
Congratulations.
Ebro Darden
You played your son well.
Laura Rosenberg
And also, destabilizing NATO, just so we're clear, is what Vladimir Putin wants. Of course that's helping Russia.
Ebro Darden
Yo, do you know that Denmark lost, Had you already heard this line, that Denmark lost more people than anyone per capita after 911 in stepping in to defend the United States and never heard that fight. Fight for NATO.
Laura Rosenberg
Yeah.
Ebro Darden
That's one of the reasons they take this all, the whole Greenland thing so personally is like they literally were like, we gave lives recently, like in 20, in 2001, we volunteered. Like, those are our people. We want to fight next to you. And. But, you know, Trump is itched up. And now when they asked him about the deal in place and are we.
Laura Rosenberg
Going to own green up here?
Ebro Darden
You probably can, but he's like, he's like, we have a great deal in place.
Laura Rosenberg
Sounds like he's got something else going on. And while he does have other things going on.
Ebro Darden
That's not what I'm trying to say. But when he was asked about it, you know, so does the deal in place include the United States having control of Greenland? He's like, it's a very long term deal. It's a long deal. It's a great deal. Like, it didn't happen. You said you did. What's the line again? Ebro. Trump always chickens out. It's Taka again. You said you were going to do it. You said, you said we were going to have Greenland. You already backed out.
Laura Rosenberg
Taco.
Ebro Darden
Taco.
Laura Rosenberg
Taco.
Ebro Darden
Oh, out. Oh, Taco. Trump always chickens out.
Laura Rosenberg
Chickens out. Taco. Well, speaking of maga and things falling apart, do you have the divorce? This is kind of a long clip, so kickback. I want to give props to the creator who put it together, but I don't have it.
Ebro Darden
Is it a good clip?
Laura Rosenberg
Is it worth the clip?
Ebro Darden
Because, you know, you guys.
Laura Rosenberg
Did you guys watch it? Did you guys watch it? Resolutions got you down.
Ebro Darden
Scoop it or swirl it.
Laura Rosenberg
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Ebro Darden
Treat without the cheese.
Laura Rosenberg
Start the Ninja Creamy diet today.
Laura Styles
I don't know which one.
Laura Rosenberg
I sent it to you guys last night. It's about divorce.
Laura Styles
Okay.
Laura Rosenberg
About Divorce relative to white folks in America and MAGA right now. Okay, that's what I'm interested of. Kind of like the family in the United States. Okay, run the clip.
Laura Styles
All right.
Guest Speaker (Commentator on Divorce and MAGA)
Racist.
Laura Styles
Thousands of women just in Minnesota saying the same thing.
Ebro Darden
I am prepping for a divorce 24 hours later.
Laura Styles
Since I made that video talking about all of the divorces happening in Minnesota, I recognize that it's not just Minnesota. It is nationwide.
Guest Speaker (Commentator on Divorce and MAGA)
Let's talk about the spiritual bill payment that has finally come due. For generations, the white American household has presented itself as immune to dysfunction, which is a false standard that the racists weaponized against the true family architects, which are the copper colored indigenous Americans who have had to live for generations with wars on their households. For instance, this country manufactured welfare acceptance and the removal of the head of household in order to receive government assistance when white families didn't have to adhere to the same rules. So when racists make jokes like, good.
Ebro Darden
Thing my daughter doesn't want a black man so she doesn't have to be.
Guest Speaker (Commentator on Divorce and MAGA)
A single mom, you're making fun of the fact that you racist fools built an entire identity identity on the myth of the black American dysfunctional family. Well, the chickens have come home to roost and the white family is toast. The chaos in Minnesota is the key to the unraveling. All around you. White women are looking at their husbands, their partners, the supposed protectors, and they're saying, hello, are you seeing this? Are you gonna do anything? And the response from the white man is a deafening, cowardly plea to stop watching social media or worse, silence. They are too scared to actually get upset about it. They are refusing to protect their women and children because at their core they're terrified. They are paralyzed by the very monster they helped create. This whole thing is karmic retribution. So what will you do, white men, now that the cat is out of the bag and you're all just a bunch of kittens and your ex wives see it? They are sick of the beta half men wannabes who cosplay toughness online but crumble when real danger appears at their doorstep. Currently, 42% of women are divorcing MAGA men, which I find to be very revolutionary and brave and I 100% support these women. High numbers of divorce is the realization that the men in their lives are not only inferior, but are a liability.
Laura Rosenberg
Wow, 42% was the number that jumped out to me. I don't know how that data has been collected, but I'm sure these women are speaking, speaking up and speaking out. In this time. And I thought that was just an interesting thing. Obviously there's a historical significance which is a one conversation, but the, but the current state of affairs. I wanted people in the chat because we've had people write in. Didn't we have a guru the other day from someone who was talking about her husband? Or was it her friends?
Laura Styles
Her friends. It was her friends.
Laura Rosenberg
Her friends. Oh, no. Someone. Someone left a comment on a post about her husband running out of the room every time we came on. Because he's.
Ebro Darden
Oh, no. Me talking about Israel.
Laura Rosenberg
You talking about Israel? That's right.
Ebro Darden
It made him run out of the room.
Laura Styles
Run out of the room. This just makes me think about the post that I've seen. Now, I haven't read Project 2025. I'm not going to sit and tell you I read the entire thing. Right. But there's the big push going on to make it harder to divorce.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Laura Styles
They really don't want women to be able to make that choice.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, you know, up until the 1980s in the United States, it was hard for women to get a divorce. You know why? Because they couldn't get a goddamn bank account.
Laura Styles
Yep.
Laura Rosenberg
They couldn't rent places on their own or buy.
Laura Styles
Buy a home.
Laura Rosenberg
Buy like. And this is not all over the United States, but in many states.
Laura Styles
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Laura Rosenberg
So it just recently, in the last, you know, 40 years, 45 years, became easy for women to choose whether or not they want to be with someone. Now, you guys think this is forcing or easy to leave? Is it? You guys think this MAGA divorce thing is real?
Ebro Darden
I don't.
Laura Styles
It could be.
Ebro Darden
I don't know if. I don't know. I don't know about those numbers. But you. I would certainly believe it. You know what I mean? Because I do generally feel, if you look at it, men are generally respectfully worse than women from a, From a moral, ethical standpoint. If we look, if we break it down, men are often at the, at the core of the bad decisions that happen in a family. So is it possible that there are a lot of women who have gone along for a while and quietly been like, well, that's just my husband, and are now looking up and going, all right, this is out of control. Yeah, 42% feels like a high number, but I don't know where my man got that from. Again, back to our constant conversation about where we get news from. But it's an interesting thought. And, and I. It wouldn't shock me to see that those numbers are going up.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, can you email us Ebro Laura Rosenberg at Gmail or the original gurus at Gmail.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, whatever.
Laura Rosenberg
Might be a cap catalyst. Love that for some emails where people are actually dealing with this because we know it exists. We know it exists in people's families where they're just like, I am not rocking with my family right now because they are way off the. The rails, you know, praying to the orange God. And then you have just women who have kind of, you know, looked past their behav. Their husband's behavior as that's just what men do. And that's just what men are like and starting to realize, like, nah, this ain't good with me to live this life and I don't want to lay next to this person and I don't want my children to think this behavior is okay either.
Ebro Darden
Now, I do think there's also something to be said. Natalie and I talk about this a lot and I. This could be a controversial topic that in America, a lot of times women, whether they want to or not, not always. I'm not remotely saying always, but very often women can end up being shape shifting somewhat to what their husbands are like. Like, Natalie was saying this in a problematic way. She was honestly about herself. She was. I look at my history and see how I've been affected by the partners I've been with. I mean, and by the way, if you're looking for the proof in the pudding, just look for the times when you see her Instagram stories go complete liberal, screaming at the world like, you know, she has been.
Laura Rosenberg
She was never like that before. She was what she was what you say.
Ebro Darden
I'd say the belief system was. That was in there. But would she be publicly, you know, would it be something that really affects her?
Laura Rosenberg
Well, I know for one thing, she wasn't going to be at multiple WWE events a year.
Ebro Darden
Okay, well, but she did like wwe. That is.
Laura Rosenberg
Yeah, but she wasn't gonna be at the event.
Ebro Darden
No, no. She had grown. She had grown out of it and I brought her back, is what you're saying. So it is interesting though, because she was saying that sort of with a level of remorse, like, it's kind of messed up. She was like, in America, it seems like a lot of us women end up sort of taking on the personality of the men that we're with a lot. It happens a lot. And if. If you believe that that is even the possibility of being a thing, it probably also happens a lot in these MAGA households.
Laura Styles
No, absolutely. I was talking to one of my girlfriends and she says she has a group of friends that happen to be, like, from her man side. Right. All of them are conservative because they're me. Their men are conservative. Not. Not. Not just conservative. They're maga. Because their men are maga. And when she asks, like, do you honestly believe in all this? And they're just kind of like, they rather. Some of them rather not have their own views.
Laura Rosenberg
Rather get along, man.
Laura Styles
They just go along to get along the house. So they're just gonna go along with it, which is.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, hit them all with the button.
Laura Styles
It's sad.
Laura Rosenberg
You're playing yourself.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Laura Rosenberg
One day you play yourself, you're gonna be looking at yourself in the mirror and you wasted your life being somebody that you weren't. True. And not being true to yourself.
Laura Styles
And the way these cycles are moving, they want. They want one vote per household. Have you heard that one?
Laura Rosenberg
I've heard that.
Ebro Darden
I wonder why the.
Laura Styles
That should be voting.
Ebro Darden
Wonder why they feel that way. Speaking.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, this is also why this. The. The people of this ilk never wanted women to vote. In general.
Guest Speaker (Commentator on Divorce and MAGA)
Of course.
Ebro Darden
Yeah. Because it could go this way. Literally, it could go left. Although I will say, guys, I find in general, this is going to be also slightly controversial. I don't know if you guys had this experience sometimes. Like, another thing me and my wife were talking about. You ever find, like, I'll find women in my life who, like, you meet their man and you just, like, oh, man, you just ended up with a guy. It's just. Just a guy.
Laura Rosenberg
Oh, he's just. Yeah, he's just. He's just a. He's a. He's just a. He's a skin and bones.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Laura Rosenberg
Like, obviously, there's no personality at all.
Ebro Darden
I was talking to my own.
Laura Rosenberg
He's got a skin suit on. He's just standing there sucking in oxygen.
Ebro Darden
And. And the women. And the women. And the women are, like, lively and have personality and lots of things. Thoughts, and they still look good and they're doing their thing and, like, their husband. Just like, women are out here just settling is what I'm saying. Women are out here.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, no, some of that also. No, no. But some of that also is that particular person you're describing. That woman and that man, they work together because she is so dominant. Right. If. If that man also had his own. That woman may not be able to. That woman needs to be the center of attention. She needs to be the star. The spotlight is on her. She needs to drive the idea. She needs to, you know.
Guest Speaker (Commentator on Divorce and MAGA)
Well, I'M not.
Laura Styles
I'm not saying that you're wrong, Ebro, because that's also a certain character.
Allie Jackson
Yeah.
Laura Styles
But I also agree with Rosenberg. There's. Yo. I know a lot of women who are just like. Who are executives, and they're like, yo, I just want a decent human being who has a job and is respectful.
Laura Rosenberg
Oh, for sure. But is that settling?
Ebro Darden
It's just a low bar for men because they don't have many options. That's how I see it.
Laura Rosenberg
Okay.
Ebro Darden
We just want someone who's not going to be mean or abusive or dangerous.
Laura Rosenberg
Listen, man, you got. Listen, you gotta. You gotta buy what's on the shelf. You gotta buy what's on the shelf. You got. Yeah, you walk into the store, you look around, you need to go home with something, and you know, you get the best that you could get.
Ebro Darden
Oh, and there is one other piece to remember about that. I think this is important. Men who are more exciting and more charming and more likely got more options. That comes with risk.
Laura Rosenberg
That.
Ebro Darden
That purchase comes with risk. Now, did they. Are they divorced? If so, win. Because maybe they've already. Maybe they already learned and you're getting them. Maybe you're getting the refurb. It's the rare situation where the refurb is better sometimes than out of the package. You might want the refurb.
Laura Rosenberg
That's right.
Ebro Darden
But to Ebro's point, sometimes. Sometimes it's a refurb. And they didn't actually do the repair. They just. They just rubbed a little dirt on it, put it back in the package, ran it back out.
Laura Styles
Anyway, really quickly. I just want to give a birthday shout out to some of our Fox in the chat. Erica B6471 and Queen Medina. Happy birthday, guys.
Laura Rosenberg
Happy birthday to the Fox. Now, merch manager, Laura Stack.
Laura Styles
Yes, sir.
Laura Rosenberg
Day is Thursday.
Ebro Darden
Yes, sir.
Laura Rosenberg
Are we landing the shipment of the merch today?
Laura Styles
So remember, shipping is tomorrow. So I'm going. Actually, I remember, Aaron.
Laura Rosenberg
Thursday.
Laura Styles
I. I'm going to the headquarters today to just, you know, make sure that things are moving smoothly. But no shipping is Friday.
Laura Rosenberg
And then it'll take another week for people to get their T shirts about.
Laura Styles
You know, depending on where they live, some people might get it sooner than others just because. Depending on where they live. But yeah, and I'm excited for everybody to get their stuff.
Laura Rosenberg
When do we unveil new merch for people who miss this one?
Laura Styles
It's up to. Yeah, this one is done. You're not going to get another one of. Of this one. That's it limited A dish and all of them. The next one is also going to be limited. I know.
Ebro Darden
We're doing another limited one next.
Laura Styles
Yes. So if you miss it, you miss it.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, we also. Listen, let's just be honest. We don't know how much money people have. You know, we're already asking for 9.99 on Patreon. You know, I mean, then we're gonna sell you a T shirt. Like, at a certain point, we gotta pace this so that people can, you know, I mean, get. Get a little money to support the program. We can't just be running through people's pockets. Right. Well, and on top of that, we got to manage our budgets as well, which means we can't just buy a bunch of blank T shirts and have them sitting somewhere. And we don't even own a goddamn warehouse. And they're just sitting in a box in Laura's man's closet with his sneakers. And we're waiting, like, figure out the next time people want T shirts.
Ebro Darden
And while we're at it, while we're mentioning this, I do want to give another shout out to Chase, who came up with our initial design, our initial logo.
Laura Rosenberg
He made the.
Ebro Darden
Like. Chase didn't know. Chase helps me out with a lot of stuff. He didn't know anything. I hit him up on a Friday, like, hey, we're not at Hot 97. Can you throw some ish together real quick? And he basically gave us what has been our initial aesthetic, and we just want to shout him out for being. Showing love. He's a good man.
Laura Rosenberg
Now, before we move further into the program, we got to get to the rundown. It's time for Laura Styles.
Laura Styles
Let's go.
Laura Rosenberg
And the rundown.
Ebro Darden
Oh, man. And. And Griff sent me the. The one with the new. With the beat on it, and I don't have it in here yet.
Laura Styles
Come on, bro.
Ebro Darden
Laura got the run down. Turn that up. Screens on Glow when she pulled up.
Laura Rosenberg
Headlines heavy, but we still cut.
Ebro Darden
Can I ask you a question, though, real quick, Laura, before you start throwing down?
Laura Styles
What?
Ebro Darden
And can I ask maybe a poll In. In the. In the. In the room.
Laura Styles
Do we.
Ebro Darden
Do we like this intro? Is it too radio? Like, are we still trying to do radio too much with this intro? What's our honest feeling?
Laura Styles
All right, I like it, but I would love a poll. Let's do it.
Ebro Darden
Eo, where are you at with it?
Laura Styles
He's going to set it up. I like it.
Laura Rosenberg
I don't know. I like it. But I could also go the other way. And I also think asking the audience what you just asked them, I don't even know if they're. Maybe they're savvy enough to know the difference. Oh, I just.
Ebro Darden
How dare you, sir? How you.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, no, in. In the context of like, do they. It's just. Do you like it or not? You know what I'm saying? Like, is it good or not in their minds? Not like, I don't know if they.
Ebro Darden
But like, it could be as simple. Once we get our. We. We. Once we got our initial voice work back, once we produce with some of just the basic drops we have, it could just be like it's the rundown all over styles and we hit a.
Laura Rosenberg
Baby, but you can't talk. They don't know what voice work is either. Do they know what voice work is? Is that a known thing? I'm seriously asking. I'm not trying to be condescending. I don't know what people know. I don't know what people care about. I really don't.
Ebro Darden
Once we have the things that just go, it's Laura Styles with the rundown. It could just be that and a beat. It doesn't have to be the rap song is what I'm saying.
Laura Styles
Right, right, right, right, right.
Ebro Darden
Anyway, sorry, Laura, what do you have?
Laura Styles
Let's focus. Okay? We're gonna go through some light stuff first before we get into the juicy. The Vince Staples show has been canceled, guys.
Laura Rosenberg
Oh, man.
Ebro Darden
Damn.
Laura Styles
After two seasons, it premiered in 2024. Second season drop November 2025. I did say, I did read that the. The viewership wasn't as great. Listen, I gotta be honest.
Laura Rosenberg
Down a little bit. I.
Laura Styles
Sometimes I would go in, I. I could never really stick with it, guys.
Laura Rosenberg
Season two was a little bit more obscure than season one, which was already obscure, which was already obscure. But I like season two. Artistic for myself. I liked it, I enjoyed it, I didn't finish it.
Ebro Darden
I mean, I'm being honest. So, like, that's probably telling. I think it's really good. I think he is amazing. I think Vince is gonna have a great run in entertainment and in all the things that he does. And it's a bummer that this happened. I can't say I'm shocked because Ebro mentioned it was irreverent. It was weird, you know, Atlanta esque in that way, but didn't keep the full storyline necessarily, which is, you know, when you try something avant garde like that, you were taking a risk. But I just want to shout him out because getting to that point where he got two seasons of a Netflix show is such an incredible accomplishment.
Laura Styles
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Ebro Darden
Guys, I've been. I've been working on something that I may have news on soonish for you that is not near at that step. Yo, when I tell you, creating. I'm not talking about. Respectfully, I'm not talking about pitching a documentary, creating a dramatic television show and not a scripted show and getting it to air is an unbelievable haul. So the fact that they came up with that show and made it all the way there and did two seasons is an incredible accomplishment. He should be super proud of.
Laura Styles
I mean, I want to see more of him.
Ebro Darden
You're going. We're definitely going to see more events. There's no way not to.
Laura Styles
Did you guys catch the. The interview with him in Zway? Oh, one of my favorites.
Laura Rosenberg
The whole thing, I love. It was like. It was like. It happened on the Ebro Laura Rosenberg show. I posted the whole thing. I gave context. It was. It was amazing.
Ebro Darden
Yeah. I watched. I watched a good chunk of it. It was hilarious.
Laura Rosenberg
Serious.
Ebro Darden
Yeah.
Laura Styles
All right, so.
Ebro Darden
And.
Laura Rosenberg
And it should be noted that the type of hilarity that happened in that interview and the. The types of jokes that Vince made. Right. You know, I don't always land for the mainstream. And. And the thing about Vince show on Netflix, had they really honed in on the target? Remember, is Adult Swim still around? I think it's still around in Cartoon Network.
Ebro Darden
Like, Rick and Morty's still ringing off.
Laura Rosenberg
Yeah, Rick and Morty. That's right. It is that. I know they don't air stuff like that. They're animated. They're more that. But, like, remember Loiter Squad? Tyler's Loiter Squad, which was just him and his boys doing slapsticky. Like, that's all. It's alternative comedic humor. And then when you're black doing alternative comedic humor, it's even more niche. Right.
Ebro Darden
Because I was gonna say that, yes.
Laura Rosenberg
There's not like a lot of. A lot of black comedians that are doing that. They're not your mainstream comedians. And I. It might. This might be a business opportunity for me. I just. It just clicked in my head. They need a space. There needs to be a space where people who get different types of humor who are not white can gather and do their humor.
Ebro Darden
It's a. It's a really good point. And I know there are spaces like that in. In la. Like, I know there are places for.
Laura Rosenberg
I know there's clubs, but I like, like video.
Ebro Darden
Yeah. To people to consume it.
Laura Rosenberg
Skits stand up like a real place.
Ebro Darden
Because you're right, Ebro, the level of like, niche nerd humor, you're now going double niche when it's black, right?
Laura Rosenberg
So, like, for instance, what black comedian would have got away with how many seasons of Curb youb Enthusiasm?
Laura Styles
Oh, God, how many seasons?
Ebro Darden
Well, curve. I don't know if I, I, I don't know if I like the comp. Just because I don't know how many people are getting away with doing that much period of anything. You know what I'm saying?
Laura Rosenberg
Right. Larry David's Special. But I'm just saying that type.
Ebro Darden
But I was going to go, I was going to go another place. There's a, there's that dude who, who now has the chair. What's the show called? The Chair Factory or whatever that show's called that's popping off right now on Netflix. And I'm forgetting homeboy's name. And you see the look Laura's giving me because she'll have no idea who he is. And it is big among white people and, and like in an altar. Very weird alt comedy crowd.
Laura Styles
It's called the Chair. I'm gonna look it up.
Laura Rosenberg
The Chair Factory.
Ebro Darden
Is it the Chair Factory? But Laura, it's, it's, it's a very weird form of humor. And it's either gonna be for you or not. You know what I mean?
Laura Styles
Okay. Okay. All right. All right. Next is the forbidden clip. No, I'm just kidding. I know. We played a clip of ASAP Rocky and April's interview.
Ebro Darden
It was just ASAP Rocky on Apple music. Okay.
Laura Styles
Just ASAP Rocky.
Ebro Darden
Sorry. Tim Robinson is the, is the, is the comedian and writer I'm talking about. Look him up, guys. But yes, would be hard to pull that off at this point and pull multiple seasons as a black talent. I think it'd be really tough.
Laura Styles
Okay, so Ebro and ASAP Rocky sat down for an interview. Right now it's available on Apple Music. But check this out. He is opening up about Drake.
ASAP Rocky
I think hip hop tactics and beefs is like wwf. It's like wrestling all the way.
Ebro Darden
Right?
ASAP Rocky
But this thing between us, it's not real smoke, but I just don't with him. You know what I mean? We was once friends. I feel like it's over females. I feel like he wasn't happy and he expressed that. And I think at some certain point when everybody getting older and it's just like you supposed to be moving on for you to still be picking at a female and all that, that's soft to me, you know what I'm saying? And I didn't put out an album. I ain't put out music for me to really say something back, you know, And I finally did say something back to a few people, you know, not just. It ain't just about one person. I'm talking to whoever. Whoever feel like I'm talking to them, you know, And I do think that Petty and we all. It's like I said, it's enough money, it's enough women, it's enough fame spotlights to go around, you know, I mean, we're not really tripping off nothing. But is it real smoke? It could never be. They not. That ain't smoke.
Laura Rosenberg
I feel it's pretty direct. And he says he feels like it was over females. And it definitely. It's weird, man. Drake fans, y'. All. Weird, man. It's real weird, man.
Ebro Darden
Why weird? I mean. Yes, but keep going.
Laura Rosenberg
Well, because I saw people saying, like, oh, Rocky's just talking about Drake to sell his album. And I was like, well, wasn't Drake talk about. And his wife. Like, didn't that happen? We didn't see that happen.
Ebro Darden
It. No, no, it 100% happened. These people are weird, bro. The line's funny. On Patreon. On Patreon. We. Oh, and I. And I do. I was told there was an issue we had with Patreon, so.
Laura Rosenberg
Oh, man. Hit the button.
Ebro Darden
No, it's.
Laura Styles
It.
Laura Rosenberg
There's either ready or we wasn't ready.
Ebro Darden
Well, since you played yourself. Because we ran it through YouTube. Even the fact we played a lot of music on it, and even though it was unlisted on YouTube, YouTube still came for the video. So now we have to re upload it. Not on YouTube. So just hang tight for one second. It'll. It'll go up in a minute.
Laura Rosenberg
It's not what people paying for this. This is some real.
Ebro Darden
No, this is. Honestly, I can't tell you the truth. It literally happened to me last night. I did a live on my. I did a live on my wrestling Patreon. Thought I could just watch a random episode of AEW Live while I was doing it. It knocked it off. I was like, oh, YouTube still YouTubing. I thought we were a private YouTube.
Laura Rosenberg
Is YouTube even more focused now?
Ebro Darden
So we're gonna get it up. It'll still be up on Patreon shortly. It just won't be as a YouTube video. But okay. When we played the Rocky clip yesterday, because we played some music and had some fun, it was interesting to Hear him say the line repeatedly in that record. I stole your. Because it's, like, hilarious. Because, like. And respectfully, Rihanna, she's your. You know what I'm saying?
Laura Rosenberg
Well, we don't even know if that's the one he's talking about. Because he said we don't know. Right.
Laura Styles
He did say girls.
Laura Rosenberg
He said females, plural. You didn't say stole your female. And to that. And to that matter, what you guys said on Patreon yesterday with regard to Rihanna never visibly being that into Drake in the first place. Was it ever. Even his.
Laura Styles
Yeah.
Laura Rosenberg
Quote unquote, Was it all just a work for us? Speaking of work, work, work. Was it just a work.
Ebro Darden
Wow. I see what you sell music. Was it a work?
Laura Rosenberg
Work? You don't ask me half. What.
Laura Styles
Oh, God. Oh, God. All right, so there's that. But let's get into the lowdown because you guys are gonna.
Laura Rosenberg
Oh, the mess.
Laura Styles
You guys are gonna like this one. Rosenberg, let's go low.
Ebro Darden
Laura, I'm just. I'm told that also the Oscar nominations just dropped.
Laura Styles
Okay, well, we'll deal with that in a minute. Right now.
Laura Rosenberg
Wallow in the mire.
Laura Styles
Yes. Because y' all gonna love, love this one.
Laura Rosenberg
All right, let's get into it, then. It better be good. Yo, where's Hot Rod Rick's intro for the Lowdown? Rosenberg, you slipping over there.
Ebro Darden
Oh, yeah. Do we agree we wanted to use the hot rod?
Laura Rosenberg
Give him a run. I didn't hear Laura's confirmation. It's just me, the devil. Satan, shut up for a second. It sounds terrible.
Laura Styles
Yeah, if you got it, roll, roll it.
Ebro Darden
I don't. Okay, it's time for the low down, guys.
Laura Styles
As the ice storm threatens the power grid in Texas.
Laura Rosenberg
Okay?
Laura Styles
Senator Ted Cruz was caught on a plane headed to California.
Laura Rosenberg
Laura, this ain't the lowdown. Like, this ain't even that.
Ebro Darden
I'm hitting Laura with the button. Laura's getting the button.
Laura Rosenberg
This ain't scummy. He is scummy. But this ain't like some real. Again, Ratchet. This ain't like. I thought you was taking us to some ratchetry. You know what I'm saying? I thought.
Laura Styles
I think this is Ratchet. He's Ratchet for leaving his people when they're about to get hit with the biggest ice storm.
Laura Rosenberg
I thought y'. All. I thought you was about to leak some sex tapes or something. That's what I expected. Not Ted Cruz.
Ebro Darden
Yo, guys, guys, come on, man. Lord, I tried to hit you. You don't want to listen to Me in the Rundown. Nominated for an Oscar. Tiana Taylor for best supporting actress.
Laura Rosenberg
Oscar nominated.
Ebro Darden
Yo, how about that?
Laura Styles
Oh, my gosh.
Ebro Darden
Yo. That is amazing.
Laura Styles
What an amazing year for Tiana. I'm so happy for her, man.
Ebro Darden
That is amazing.
Laura Rosenberg
We just took the, the largest dump on your whole lowdown and then Rosenberg just snatched it back.
Laura Styles
Oh, I don't mind. We're celebrating Tiana.
Ebro Darden
I don't care.
Laura Rosenberg
Centers Best picture.
Laura Styles
Fine with that.
Laura Rosenberg
Center's best picture. Center's best original score. Good, good, good, good, good. Let's go, Coogler.
Laura Styles
All right, we'll talk about the, the whole thing.
Ebro Darden
Can I just hit this real quick? Sorry. Best picture, Begonia. F1. See, this is what I was talking about the other day. Remember what I said the other day about how they're too loose in these Oscars?
Laura Rosenberg
Is F1 really good. Best picture.
Ebro Darden
It's best, it's best picture vibes.
Laura Rosenberg
I don't.
Ebro Darden
It feels like a big ass budget, fun movie. Best picture feels nuts to me. But begonia, F1. Frankenstein, Hamnet, Marty Supreme. One battle after another. The Secret agent. Sentimental value.
Laura Rosenberg
I don't know what that is.
Ebro Darden
Sinners and train dreams.
Laura Rosenberg
I don't know train dreams either.
Ebro Darden
I, I happen to know train dreams because my, my old neighbor was a producer of that film. But I, I, It's a, it's like a, it's a movie about trains and Native Americans. It looks, it looks very Best picturey.
Laura Rosenberg
Slow. El Roy Lindo. Best supporting Actor. Shout out to the OG Tell Roy.
Ebro Darden
Lindo who else was in best Actor. Ebro, are you just naming black people? That is, you see them?
Laura Rosenberg
No, I was just seeing Griff send us notes on it.
Ebro Darden
Griff?
Laura Styles
Who else?
Ebro Darden
Who else is in best. Who else is in best actor? I'll just be curious if the Rock got it because I just watched.
Laura Styles
I think he said not named yet.
Ebro Darden
Not named yet. But Ebro just said no.
Laura Styles
All right, guys, Sorry.
Laura Rosenberg
No, that, that. Wait, let's see. Oscar's best actor contenders. Okay, but that's not nominators. Those are contenders. People are, people are expecting Timothy Shalam, Leonardo DiCaprio, Michael B. Jordan.
Ebro Darden
Well, that I'd be curious to see if the Michael B. Jordan thing, because that was such a big conversation about him being snubbed at the Golden Globes.
Laura Rosenberg
Got it.
Laura Styles
Oh, Coogler got the best director.
Laura Rosenberg
Coogler, Best director. Yo, fam. Are we really processing how big this center thing is for Coogler and just black film? Are we really understanding the significance here of him owning the ip, like, all of that talk that is like, remember all that talk about the way this sinners thing happened For Coogler, it was very like. It does. It just doesn't happen for directors.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, no, it was. It was A, it doesn't happen for.
Laura Rosenberg
Directors full stop often. And B, it doesn't happen for black directors, like, ever.
Ebro Darden
Right now. Coogler's the man, bro. I mean, listen, I can't say I'm shocked by this. The path he's been on has been pretty crazy.
Laura Rosenberg
It adds up. It adds up. But still, when you see it. Best actress, Jesse Buckley. Hamnet. Rose Byrne. Let's see. I don't know. Renee. Whoever that is. Kate Hudson. Emma Stone.
Ebro Darden
Emma Stone was awesome.
Laura Rosenberg
Wait, you saw Begonia?
Ebro Darden
Yeah, I told you already. I told you all about it. That you would love it. Man, you know how frustrating it is to tell someone about a movie?
Laura Rosenberg
So much space in my brain.
Ebro Darden
Then why tell you? You're not gonna remember it again. You're not gonna even care. It.
Laura Rosenberg
It's about my white people stuff. Hard drive is full. Often I have to remove stuff.
Ebro Darden
It's Begonia is about the two crazy people who decide that this CEO is actually an alien and they kidnap her.
Laura Rosenberg
Oh, yes. Yeah, yeah.
Laura Styles
Okay, great.
Ebro Darden
Can't wait to come next time.
Laura Rosenberg
It's a comedy, though.
Ebro Darden
No, I wouldn't say it's a comedy. Maybe. Maybe a very dark comedy.
Laura Rosenberg
Got it.
Ebro Darden
All right, you ready?
Laura Rosenberg
For the house? For you. Well, that was a failed lowdown. And you're amazing.
Ebro Darden
You mean that was your rundown. Ebro. Running. Running down the stolen rundown was mage.
Laura Rosenberg
You guys ready for the original? The low down. You squashed the whole lowdown.
Ebro Darden
No, you squashed Row down.
Laura Styles
You.
Laura Rosenberg
I said it wasn't a low down story.
Laura Styles
Then we got stormed with the. With the Oscar stuff.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, the storm.
Laura Rosenberg
Speaking of storm, Ted Cruz is on his way out of the storm.
Ebro Darden
Yo.
Laura Rosenberg
What a loser, by the way, again.
Laura Styles
Yes, that's what I'm saying. That's why I think he should be dragged to hell.
Ebro Darden
Yo.
Laura Styles
He's such a loser. But you know what? So are the people that vote for him. So are the people who vote for him. So crazy.
Ebro Darden
I just. I just can't believe that's actually real. I, like. I can't. Like. You really thought that was a good idea? I just can't believe that. I mean, I do, but. Good Lord. All right.
Laura Rosenberg
Ethan Hawk. Shalam DiCaprio. Michael B. Jordan Wagner Mora. Best Actor.
Ebro Darden
There you go.
Laura Styles
There you go.
Ebro Darden
Come on. But I I still feel Michael B. Jordan is more deserving of best actor than Sinners is deserving of best Picture. My hobby.
Laura Rosenberg
Fair enough. I mean, you could go with that.
Ebro Darden
I like Sinners, but I loved Michael B. Jordan. Like, he legitimately plays two different twins as different people. Like, to me, that was amazing. I. I thought the center was. I thought Sinners was really cool. I didn't think it was amazing, but I thought Michael B. Jordan was amazing.
Laura Rosenberg
Yeah, the amazing part for me with Sinners was how much the business part. Culture. Well, no, the black culture and the.
Ebro Darden
And.
Laura Rosenberg
And the stuff and the context. Right. Like the thing. Just the Asian family down in Mississippi and the blues and the, and the. And the tying of Irish. Irish culture and. And blues together, which is the formations of what we know now to be country music, which was, you know, Irish clog dancing and tap music, like all of the cultural intersections.
Ebro Darden
Well, that was. That was.
Laura Styles
I love that part of it.
Ebro Darden
That was what we talked about at the time. That sort of.
Laura Rosenberg
I ended up being my mouth, by the way. I cursed a lot.
Ebro Darden
You. That. That was what sort of disappointed me with the film is the first 45 minutes. The setup. I was so into the setup of, like, the. The background. I was learning so much. So, like, the cultural part I really loved. And then, yeah, when we got to the vampire part, I was like, as an Ebro, did say this probably before I even saw it, which may have affected me. I was just like, I don't know that I needed the vampire movie here. I felt like I was just going to go into this sort of interesting cultural blast.
Laura Rosenberg
But they're blood suckers. They're vampires.
Ebro Darden
And then the killing scene at the end, I was just like, what are we. What is going on? We just had a bloodbath for no reason.
Laura Rosenberg
That was for a reason. Kill them Races.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, I know, I know, but it's.
Laura Rosenberg
Just, you know, blow their. Blow there. Take them. Blow them to oblivion. But anyway, see, bro, Laura Rosenberg show. We got to get to the original gurus. Ladies and gentlemen, we take your emails at the original.
Allie Jackson
Okay.
Laura Rosenberg
Or, excuse me, the original gurus. Gmail.com. rosenberg, pay attention. Get the elements together for the guru. Let's get to it.
Laura Styles
Breathe in, breathe out. The original gurus. The original gurus. Gmail.com theoriginalgurus gmail.com that's where you email us, Rosenberg. Who's out there? Who needs us?
Ebro Darden
So many are in need, Laura, and they send us their emails at the original gurus. Gmail.com. and also, I Should remind everyone it's a great day to send your voice notes and emails to us for Freedom Friday as well, of course, as that is coming up tomorrow. Ebro Laura rosenbergmail.com hello Friday Freedom Friday. Freedom. That's right. Hello, Ebro Laura Rosenberg. The OG Gurus I'm in a relationship with a woman who has two daughters, ages 10 and 12. We've been together for about a year. I'm not their father, but I am a father myself, and I know how much a man's presence can shape a child, for better or for worse. My question is simple but heavy. How do I show up as a steady, positive male figure in their lives without overstepping or forcing a role? That isn't mine. That isn't mine. I want to model respect, consistency and healthy love, especially at an age where they're forming ideas about men and relationships. I don't want to be distant and don't want to pretend I'm dad. I want to move with care, intention, and humility. What should someone in my position get right and what mistakes should I avoid if my goal is to protect the kids, support their mother, and still honor my role as a father to my own children? Relationship talk A Jays PS Please bring back the Blood in the Water design. It would look dope as a crew neck. It is a crew. Friend of the show.
Laura Rosenberg
Crew neck. Sweatshirt, sweater.
Ebro Darden
Oh, sweatshirt. Sorry. Got it. Friend of the show, Andrew.
Laura Rosenberg
Blood in the Water I think will come back. It just probably won't come back with the same color scheme or same color tee or same logos. It'll have some. Here we are. It's Blood in the water. Exactly. Because blood is in the water.
Laura Styles
Some people wanted Sangre nilawa.
Laura Rosenberg
They want the Spanish version. We're gonna do that for Latin Heritage Month.
Ebro Darden
I, I, I feel like, I feel like. While I 100% appreciate the sentiment of this message, to me it sounds like from how you care and how you understand the situation, you don't need to overthink this.
Laura Rosenberg
That's exactly what I was gonna say. You're overthinking it, bro. Just keep loving people.
Ebro Darden
You sound like a good guy. Don't. Don't disrespect the dad. You know, be supportive, especially depending on, like, one thing. I note that I love about my friends who are in stepdad situations, assuming the relationship between the mother of the child and the father is at least, you know, I'm not even talking about if it's something that's psycho bad. And he didn't mention that. So I'm going to assume that's not the case, but assuming it's somewhere between, eh, not great and pretty good, continue to play a role where you're. You always help make things smoother, not the opposite. You know what I mean? You're not fueling into them having any issues into anything around that could be. Be a positive force in all of it. People getting along, the kids being in a good spot and just be there as their friend. At this age, they're 10 and 12. They're not 2 and 4.
Laura Styles
Right.
Ebro Darden
So they already are forming their ideas of what things are. You will model just by being you.
Laura Rosenberg
And being a dude.
Laura Styles
And if there's certain things that, that that is special or that the biological father cares about, always make sure you honor that too. You know what I mean? Certain things that are. Like when you're like, I don't know if I should be doing this, whether it's, I'm just making this up, a first basketball game or whatever. Special moments like that. Talk to your partner and say, hey, I know they have a thing with basketball. They never been to a basketball game. Should I, should I be the first one to take them to a basketball game? Maybe you should check with dad, because that could be dad's special moment. But I just think he should keep that in, keep consideration.
Ebro Darden
Great call.
Laura Rosenberg
Did he say that he had a good relationship with this, these kids dad?
Ebro Darden
No, didn't. Didn't mention it at all.
Laura Rosenberg
Didn't mention it. Well, I should we assume that he does.
Ebro Darden
I think we should assume there's no major thing one way or the other or he would have included it.
Laura Rosenberg
Because if there isn't no thing major one way or the other, then you should try to, to Laura's point, understand the things that are important to that dad in this transition and moving forward so that you could try to help reinforce those things with the kids.
Laura Styles
Right, right, right, right.
Laura Rosenberg
Especially if the mom is aligned on those things as well.
Laura Styles
Yeah, you sound like a great guy. Yeah, you sound like a great guy with a good heart. Just don't overthink it. So say the gurus, man.
Laura Rosenberg
Ebro, Laura Rosenberg show. We'll be back tomorrow, 8 o'. Clock. Yo, I think we'll have an interview tomorrow.
Ebro Darden
We do. Do we do With Yaya.
Laura Rosenberg
Yaya Abdul Mateen ii. That's right.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, look him up. Really, really impressive dude.
Laura Rosenberg
No, no. Great conversation. New Disney plus show Wonder Man. If you're in the Marvel Cinematic Universe or you're in the Marvel Comic universe, whatever it's Called you know, about Wonder man. So they're bringing that to the forefront and we'll talk to him about it as well as other things. Does the Patreon fix? Hit yourself with a button to our page to Rosenberg.
Ebro Darden
Patreon is live, uploaded and published. We are good to go is fully there. It includes Ebro melting down the great breakdown of the Rocky album. We.
Laura Rosenberg
We J. Cole.
Ebro Darden
A big J. Cole talk. A big Jay Z talk.
Laura Rosenberg
Big Jay Z talk.
Ebro Darden
So lots of music and a bit of a meltdown. It's. You're going to enjoy it. And honestly, for big shout out to everyone who signed up the first day to signing up today.
Laura Styles
I know. Thank you, man.
Ebro Darden
It's crazy. Seeing the support is really motivating.
Laura Rosenberg
Oh, yeah, that's right. I had to address Fat Joe on his Patreon, too.
Laura Styles
Oh, boy.
Ebro Darden
All right, so we talked to Fat Joe, too.
Laura Styles
And I just want to remind you guys, we are on Apple podcast, too. So if you want audio, you can go there, subscribe, and give us five stars.
Ebro Darden
Yeah, and by the way, Ebro just trolled Joe. I just want to be clear, Ebro just saying I addressed Fat Joe made it sound like something happened. That did not. He literally addressed the video.
Laura Rosenberg
I did. I did.
Ebro Darden
We just talked about.
Laura Rosenberg
Listen, wait, yo, you want me to. You want me to get people to subscribe or not? Like, what do you. Pick your side.
Ebro Darden
Just get melting down.
Laura Rosenberg
Pick your side, bro. Pick a side.
Ebro Darden
See you tomorrow, guys.
Laura Rosenberg
Just don't call it a podcast.
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