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Ed Milet
This is the ED Milet SHOW welcome back to the show everybody. Today's going to be really interesting. So we're going to talk about brain health and, but we're going to talk about it with somebody who I think is, he's the cutting edge guy on the planet right now. I love his work. I love the way he communicates. I love really brilliant people who can also articulate their thoughts like, like a world class speaker. And that's a very rare combination when, especially when it comes to neuroscientists. It's just usually not that they have both skills and this man does. And so, I don't know, 400, almost 500 million views on his stuff. 5 million plus people following him on all the platforms. But he is a cutting edge researcher and, and transfer of information that changes your life as it comes to brain health. We're going to talk Alzheimer's particularly today as well. You're going to want a great run and learn a ton today with Dr. Robert Love. Dr. Love, welcome to the show, brother Ed.
Dr. Robert Love
Thank you so much. Thank you for that kind introduction. I, I really appreciate it. I just, I want to say I'm really grateful and humbled that I get to do work that I love, that, that helps people. I mean, thank you God that I, I love what I do and that I'm able to help people and it's really rewarding and it's, it's fun. I get to talk to people like you and share cutting edge information that helps people. So I'm just, I feel really blessed.
Ed Milet
So do I. Likewise. I'm blessed that you're here today. There's so many things we're gonna go like little things and then big things. But I just want to start with some stuff that, that you could unpack in our minds. This is a broad question. I usually don't start broad, but I want to with you. What's the biggest like misconception about brain health that most of us have right now? Either something we've been told we should take or something we think or something brain health, it's just like complete BS and is wrong.
Dr. Robert Love
Absolutely. Let me get, let me give you two and then forgive me. Sometimes I get excited and so my, if my microphone pops those listening, please forgive me. So two, two big things. Number one is that we heard in, we heard this in high school, you can't grow new brain cells as an adult. That is not true. Research from Dr. Elizabeth Gould at Princeton University. She's published papers in the top journals in science and in nature showing that adult mammals can grow new brain cells in the hippocampus, the memory center of our brains, into adulthood, even late into adulthood. Every mammal except bats. Why bats can't do this, I don't know. But humans, we can definitely grow new brain cells. And there's a. There's a great book by Brandt Courtright called the neurogenesis Lifestyle, where he talks about behaviors and foods and supplements we can take to grow new brain cells. That's the neurogenesis, the process of growing new brain cells, the birth of new brain cells, new neural connections. So, number one, you can grow new brain cells. So if you damage. You know, we. We heard, you know, if you drink alcohol, that kills your brain cells, they'll never come back. Well, those. Those exact ones won't come back, but you can grow new ones. Okay, Number two is that there's nothing to do about Alzheimer's disease. My grandfather had Alzheimer's when I was in first grade. So I was 6, 7. And my dad said, you know, it's all genetic. There's nothing we can do. And people are still saying that, and that's just not true. That's not factually true. I've had videos of mine taken down on social media where I'm making claims saying, look, Alzheimer's can be prevented and it can be reversed. And here's the science behind it. And people say, my doctor says there's nothing you can do for Alzheimer's, or my doctor says brain supplements don't work. Well, here's the truth of the matter, and I heard this from a doctor recently in a medical presentation. Current medical practices today are 20 years behind the current science, whether it's pediatrics, gerontology. If you go in to see a medical doctor and they are saying, this is the standard practice of medicine, they are 20 years behind the current research.
Ed Milet
Well, that would make sense because they probably went to Medical School 25 years ago. Right. And so they've been in practice longer than the new information was probably available to them. And they're not staying up to date and reading. But I want to. I want to go right into something with you because it just surprised me, you know, preventing it or, you know, maybe even some plaque removal. You recommend. Roar. Lion's mane. Like lion's mane comes up a lot with you. Right.
Dr. Robert Love
The reason I like lion's mane in particular is because it does so many wonderful things. Things. This is like, this is the Swiss army knife of supplements for your brain and your overall body health. So, number one, lion's mane improves Memory, that's just a blessing in and of itself. That's terrific. Lion's mane helps grow new brain cells and it does this by increasing growth factors in the brain, specifically brain derived neurotrophic factor bdnf. That's a growth factor that facilitates the growth of new brain cells and new neural connections. By the way, Ed, you're going to like this. Exercise also increases bdnf. This is why exercise helps us grow a bigger brain. Research by Dr. Kirk Erickson and colleagues from the University of Pittsburgh. They did a study where older adults exercise during the week or they had them do stretching for 30 minutes and those and ever after six months, they did brain scans. Those who did exercise grew a bigger brain, specifically the hippocampus, the memory center of the brain. So exercise actually grows a bigger brain. Lion's mane can help grow a bigger brain through that same mechanism. By increasing growth factors in the brain, lion's mane helps slow down aging by lowering inflammation. Inflammation is one of the primary risk factors of aging and one of the primary risk factors of Alzheimer's disease as well as many other chronic diseases. Lion's mane is good for your gut bacteria. Lion's mane is good for immune system. It reduces stress and anxiety and double blind CEPA controlled studies. And my favorite benefit of lion's mane, it improves sleep. It helps people fall asleep faster, stay asleep longer, and fall back to sleep. I can. I got converted to lion's mane from Dave Asprey and I, I was having trouble sleeping at the time. I noticed first of all I'd have vivid dreams, which is really cool. It increases REM sleep, so you have more vivid dreams when you take it. And then number two is I'm able to fall back to sleep. So oftentimes when I'd wake up, I'd in the middle of the night, see, it's still dark. It's still dark. And then I'm like, oh no, what time is it? Oh no, I'm never gonna get back to sleep and my tomorrow is gonna be shot. And I got a meeting tomorrow and I'm talking to, I'm on the Ed Milet podcast. I need my sleep tonight, right? I'm all stressed. But with lion's mane, I was like, oh, it's still dark. Okay, just roll over, go back to sleep. So my stress when I'd wake up in the middle of the night was much lower. So it helps people fall back to sleep. So the reason I like lion's mane, number one, it's very, very safe and has so many different health benefits. Whether you just want to optimize your brain, reduce your stress, reduce your anxiety. I mean, I like to take this when I go out at night instead of alcohol. I don't drink alcohol anymore. When I take this with little L tyrosine, I'm in a great mood, I'm energetic, I'm positive, I'm happy, I'm not stressed, and I'm enjoyable to be around.
Ed Milet
Let me ask you about this though. Like you said, that was your favorite thing, but like the thing that surprised me that in reading, by the way, maybe I misunderstood you, but I believe you stipulated that it can remove amyloid plaque also, or at least reduce it.
Dr. Robert Love
No, not specifically lion's mane curcumin.
Ed Milet
Okay.
Dr. Robert Love
Curcumin does that. Aniracetam can do that. Lion's mane, it may do that by reducing inflammation. And so that would be true for everything that reduces most things that would reduce inflammation. I don't think there's been research on specifically lion's mane reducing amyloid plaque.
Ed Milet
So the combination of. And by the way, whether it does or doesn't, I wouldn't know. But you're. You recommend a lot like nmn. You, you. Yeah, which every longevity expert that's been on my show does as well. So these are all things in sort of the cocktail of brain health one way or the other, is what you're saying.
Dr. Robert Love
Well, NMN's great for anti aging as. As you know, NMN also increases energy nad, which is used to both repair DNA. NMN works on multiple different pathways to help slow down aging. And in that way, it also improves mitochondrial health. And that's really good for the brain.
Ed Milet
Let's talk about what's bad for a few minutes. Then we're going to meet in the middle of Alzheimer's. Let's talk about what's bad. And one of the things that, you know, I have, I have some cardiovascular disease. There's been dementia in my family also. And so one of the things that my doctors are obsessed with is any inflammation in my body. I've sort of begun to just accept over doing the show long enough as a layman that inflammation means the presence of disease or bad inflammation. Bad lack of inflammation. Good. And so I want you to tie together the inflammation concept with also just like sugar, because I actually watched a video yesterday from a guy I actually like. I'm not gonna say who. A guy I like. And actually I think it's probably a distant social media friend who's like on a sugar diet. Now, like, it's literally a sugar diet. And I don't have any opinions about that because I'm not a nutritionist, I'm not a doctor, I'm not a health expert, but I want to ask you about inflammation and then sugar and let you just kind of run with those two things.
Dr. Robert Love
Absolutely. So you are absolutely correct, essentially, and this is oversimplified. High inflammation, bad. High inflammation is a risk factor for almost every different chronic disease. Alzheimer's, most forms of dementia, heart disease, many forms of cancer, diabetes. High inflammation is a major risk factor for that. And things that increase our inflammation are many things that we're doing in our modern lifestyle, our sedentary lifestyle, and kind of our high stress, poor quality food, toxic lifestyle. So things that increase inflammation are. I'll get into it. More sugar, bad fats, stress, stress increases inflammation, poor quality sleep, sedentary lifestyle, these things increase inflammation. So you can see some. The average American who eats fast food, who watches mainstream media, I don't know why you do that. They're not even close to being factual. It's hilarious. At this point, you know that the New York Times will contradict itself in the same newspaper. So people who want, people watch the news who are, who think people who are different from them are scary, right? Who have high stress and you have poor quality sleep, they're probably drinking, they might be smoking. Tons of inflammation, tons of chronic disease. I think Robert Kennedy's shared 80% of our healthcare budget spent on chronic disease when his uncle was present. When JFK was present, it was zero percent. So that's where we are today. Sugar in particular increases inflammation in a couple of ways. Number one, when we drink a soda, for example, a soda is a ton of sugar and no fiber. So when we drink that, that spikes our insulin, that spikes our blood. Clues. And those, those glucose and insulin spikes can create inflammation in and of themselves. And then number two is that when you do this, this can increase the risk of type 2 diabetes. So these, these, these insulin glucose spikes, you know, a bunch of sugar, no fiber. But by that, it's really unnatural. It's really unnatural to have a ton of sugar without fiber. Because sugar in nature comes from fruit.
Ed Milet
Good point. Fruit, okay.
Dr. Robert Love
Fruit has fiber.
Ed Milet
Yeah.
Dr. Robert Love
Our body knows what to do with fruit. It has no idea what to do with soda. And it freaks out because high sugar is actually quite dangerous. And so the body says, oh my gosh, high sugar, we gotta drive this sugar down. And the body gets upset. And so when you do this chronically, this increases the Risk of diabetes. And diabetes also increases inflammation. So it increases inflammation short term. And then if you're drinking a diet soda every day, that's becomes chronic. And then if you get what's called insulin resistance, which is beginning of type 2 diabetes or type 2 diabetes, that increases inflammation. So you got both of those things increasing inflammation as well. And if you're drinking soda, you're probably watching the news, you're probably not exercising, you're probably stressed. It's, it's probably compounding these multiple factors.
Ed Milet
I'm going to ask you something about sugar in a second. But like I just did a podcast on right before you got here. I'm like, not everybody that you disagrees with you is like a horrible human being. And why are you letting these people just work you up into a stupor? And now we're finding out through you. Go ahead, keep getting worked out and stressed up about all this stuff so that you can get dementia or Alzheimer's someday. Like, go ahead, keep doing it. If you think it's not doing damage to you, it is.
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So.
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Ed Milet
But I want to ask you one thing about sugar because I've never asked any guest on the show about this and I'm like, why have I not asked this? I think I'm not taking sugar in when there's like no carb associated to the coke I'm drinking so or or the soda I'm drinking. So if I drink a zero soda with artificial Sweetener in it, or I put an artificial sweetener in my coffee in the morning. Are the same mechanisms of action happening in my body when I'm having a substitute to sugar? Am I. I'm like, is that a get out of jail free card or is it not?
Dr. Robert Love
That's a great question. It depends on who you ask. I'm going to give you my perspective on this. I just interviewed Dr. Stephen Gundry two days ago, and we asked him about.
Ed Milet
He was just on. Yeah, he was just on.
Dr. Robert Love
Yeah. New book. New book is great. He said, we don't have sugar receptors in the tongue. We don't have sugar receptors in the gut. What we have is sweet receptors. And so when the tongue tastes sweet, our body says, oh, goody, we got sugar coming in. Let's increase the. The insulin to increase sugar uptake. And then so imagine if you drink a diet soda with nothing else so sweet. Sweet receptors say, increase insulin, your body increases insulin, but no calories come in. Well, now your body is confused, and now your cells are really hungry because the insulin told your cells to take in glucose, take in sugar, and there was no sugar coming. So now your cells are upset. And so I've read research to show that if you give someone a diet soda and then you don't give them food, and then you want then the next meal, they actually overcompensate. They overeat more than someone who had just had, like, a regular soda an hour before and then eating food because their cells are extra hungry in that way. Another challenge, we want to differentiate between artificial sweeteners, chemical artificial sweeteners, and natural sweeteners. So the natural sweeteners I'll share are stevia, monk, fruit, sugar, allulose. Allulose is my favorite. These have a different reaction in the body than the chemical sweeteners. The aspartame, the sucralose, the acesulfame C, acesulfame K, however that's pronounced like these things are derived in a lab. And not only do they have the sweet receptor like the other ones do, but there's evidence to show that they can impair our gut bacteria. And there's so much research, and Dr. Gundry's really gone deep on this, so much research to show that what he calls our gut buddies, you know, the billions of. Of microorganisms living in our gut are actually steering the ship in a lot of ways. They determine we crave what we're hungry for. They help make neurotransmitters which affect our brain chemistry. And so if you hurt your good gut bacteria with diet soda, that's going to have all kinds of implications that, you know, we could draw this on a whiteboard and we could say, okay, if you hurt your gut bacteria, well, you're hurting your brain. If you hurt your gut bacteria, you're actually increasing your stress levels, you're increasing your cortisol. If you're doing that, you're actually impairing your sleep. And so now we've affected three major systems just from drinking a diet soda. Now, is it going to kill your sleep for the rest of your life? Probably not. But if you drink a diet soda a day and you think it's okay, if you're constantly messing with your gut bacteria, that could be constantly impairing these major systems. I mean, imagine what happens if you screw with someone's sleep. That affects everything.
Ed Milet
Yeah.
Dr. Robert Love
And so if you screw with your gut bacteria, that could have a major impact on so many different systems, including the brain, including digestion, including your hunger, and including your sleep. That's such a big deal.
Ed Milet
Yeah. I gotta tell you, because I've been doing this so long, the show, and because I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on the podcast at all, but because I've had everyone on from every side of the field, it feels like right now, like if I were to distill down what is like not the hot thing, but like the thing that the brilliant people like you are focusing in on more and more is gut health and sleep. Almost these two things. I mean, there's a million other things that have their time and their window, but maybe they've been exhausted to some extent for the time, but seems like all the really bright people right now are like fascinated with sleep. The quality of it, the depth of it, the stages of different sleep, the brainwave states, and gut health's connection to every single damn thing in your body, particularly your brain. Am I kind of right about that?
Dr. Robert Love
You are absolutely right. And there's just more and more data showing how important both of these things are. If I may give just a big hunk of data here on artificial sweeteners, I've gotten into some do it social media battles with, with people say, look, they gave diet soda to people in a laboratory double blind sleep controlled trial. And look after like, you know, 30 minutes, their insulin didn't go up. Therefore, diet soda doesn't increase the risk of diabetes. Okay. That's a small trial in a study, short over 30 minutes, it does not increase insulin. Fine. I'll give you that. There's a great longitudinal study out of France of 100,000 people, huge study, nine year study. This a giant study. And they looked at people who consumed foods and sodas with artificial sweeteners and those without. And they found that over the course of nine years, out of 100,000 people, those who consumed artificial sweeteners had a 69 increased risk of developing type 2 diabetes during this nine year period. 69 increased risk, that's massive. And so that's real world.
Ed Milet
And so we don't know why though. You're not sure why.
Dr. Robert Love
I say, look, it could be, it could be a number of different things. But we, but we know that the association is there and so that's a really big deal. And then My dear friend, Dr. Heather Sanderson, New York Times bestselling author, she wrote the book Reversing Alzheimer's. She reversed Alzheimer's in her medical clinic without any prescription drugs. She's, she's amazing just with lifestyle and by the way, you can reverse Alzheimer's disease with lifestyle. She's proven it. She shared that, look, if diet soda is so good for you, show me the healthy people drinking it. Like just this is totally fine for you. Show me the really healthy, fit people who are right, who are at the top of their game drinking diet soda.
Ed Milet
Right? Does it dehydrate you also? Does it dehydrate you?
Dr. Robert Love
Caffeine can dehydrate you.
Ed Milet
This is what I want to ask you about. It's kind of where I was like, I'm kind of like poking my way into the, the portal. I want to go into. In a minute, you guys. We're going to talk about the prevention, but believe it or not, we're talking about the reversal of Alzheimer's according to Dr. Love. So we're going to talk about that a minute. So stick in there. But I want to ask you about caffeine because I was thinking all the stuff that I pour my substitutes into kind of have one connection. They bring me caffeine also. So like my coffee brings me caffeine. Diet sodas do, energy drinks do. My pre workout that I take before I work out is loaded with caffeine as well. I started to read your work and I'm like, ah, crap, I don't know. So I might be in a little trouble here. So let's talk about caffeine because if there's one thing I think my audience probably does and I can't generalize 5 or 8 million people, most of them work out and so, and most of them are busy and on the go. And I think caffeine's a part of their life. I think a caffeine is a pretty big part from the minute they wake up for their cup of coffee till at least late in the afternoon for many. So let's hear about caffeine.
Dr. Robert Love
I think caffeine's great. Humans love caffeine, animals love caffeine. Dr. Andrew Huberman and neurosciences from Stanford, great podcast on caffeine. Isn't he great? He shared that bees, bees will go to flowers with caffeine. This is the liking of caffeine is so deep in our biology, it's shared with bees. And so human beings love caffeine. Number one drug on planet Earth, I think number two is alcohol, number three is nicotine, and the number four is cannabis or marijuana. So human beings love their dopamine, right? Cigarettes and coffee. So caffeine, the research shows it was really interesting. They did some research in mice and they found that they gave. Had mice with Alzheimer's, they gave some of them caffeine, and then some of them not caffeine. They found those given caffeine had less amyloid plaque in the brain. So caffeine actually may help reduce the accumulation of amyloid plaque in the brain. And there's tons of studies to show that up to four cups a day, kind of maximum four cups a day of coffee can be good for you. Dr. Stephen Gundry, I just asked him about this. He said really, it's about the polyphenols in the coffee which are really good for your gut bacteria. So think just like blueberries are really good for your gut bacteria because of the dark color. Same thing. Coffee Matcha, another great thing, really good for your gut bacteria. By the way, matcha, 10 times the antioxidants of green tea. And so. So coffee, really good for your gut bacteria. And the caffeine shows to be increased focused memory and att increase energy, you know, pre workout and. And then it can help reduce the accumulation of amyloid plaque. And it's also shown to help reduce a stroke. My theory is, I haven't seen this exactly spelled out in the literature, but I think this is what is happening. So caffeine's a vasodilator. So if this is your blood vessel, let's say this is your blood vessel, we drink caffeine, it constricts, it goes like this. So, so your blood vessels are tighter and so your blood pressure goes up a little bit, but then when the caffeine goes away, they relax and so it kind of exercises your blood vessel. Right. I think that's a good thing. I think that's why it's so good for your heart, is because it kind of exercises your blood vessels. Now there is a problem with too much caffeine. Over 400 milligrams, your average cup of coffee, really simple, has about 100 milligrams. Average cup of coffee, about 100 milligrams of coffee. Caffeine, excuse me, over 400 milligrams a day can be problematic for some people, especially if taken in the afternoon. It can impair sleep. You know, caffeine's got a half life. I don't know what it is. Half life means how long it takes your body to kind of clear out half of it. So if you're. You have a bunch of caffeine in your body when you go to bed, that can disrupt the architecture of sleep, also can increase anxiety. And you've certainly seen people who are a little bit stressed and they drink a bunch of coffee, then they're really stressed. Yeah, too much coffee can create kind of digestive issues for some people. So I do well on about one giant cup of bulletproof coffee a day. I like to add MCT oil to my coffee, a little bit of stevia and monk fruit sugar. I'll add. Sometimes I add collagen peptides if I'm not fasting or, or some protein and, and I'm off to the races. And also it'd be like a pint or like a really a big coffee. I do. If I try to do two of those, I find my stomach gets upset. So that's, that's for me. But I mean, coffee generally speaking is great. Make sure it's organic coffee. Conventional coffee in the United States is the second most pesticided crop the United States, after cotton. And so it's a food, it's a food product. And so we don't want to, first of all, we don't want to give company's money who are poisoning us with pesticides in our food. So I don't recommend buying conventional coffee. And number two, you don't want to put those things in your body. So you want to buy organic coffee, ideally arabica, and then light roast coffee. I don't know if you know this, Ed. Light roast coffee has the most caffeine per cup and it's also got the most antioxidants. So dark roast coffee. I like the flavor of dark roast coffee. It's dark and rich and nice and can have some chocolatey nuttiness. The light roast coffee is a little bit more acidic tasting. You can get like some hints, hints of citrus in there. It's got more caffeine and more antioxidants.
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Dr. Robert Love
I'll start with the few things people can do in their 20s. Why it's important. Then I'll get into the kind of, the longer term research on people in our 30s and 40s, why this really matters. So I've heard this from a number of different people who follow my channel. They have memory loss and they're in college. And this is bad news. So two things, two major risk factors for student. Well, three. One is lack of sleep. Lack of sleep is a bad idea. Drinking alcohol, binge drinking. If you black out, if you black out multiple times a year, that increases the risk of Alzheimer's disease. I wish I knew that. I drank way too much in college, really dangerously. So I had Two friends die from accidents from alcohol when I was in school. And, and still we didn't. We still didn't think was that dangerous, right? Oh, that just happened to them. Yeah, whatever. Alcohol consumption, really dangerous. And so please moderate your drinking or don't drink in college. Probably a really smart idea. And then, so, so your sleep quality, alcohol consumption, then mold. A lot of students are moving into dorms that are moldy, and then they have memory loss, and the mold is hurting their brain. That's definitely a major risk factor. And for those who play sports, concussion. Concussion is a risk factor for dementia later in life. And so if you do get a concussion, make sure you follow a protocol to help your brain regenerate after a concussion. That includes proper sleep, healthy diet, like healthy fatty fish, make sure your brain gets plenty omega 3 fatty acids, and then certain supplements that can help regrow new brain cells. We talked about lion's mane curcumin, fish oil, these sorts of things be really helpful for the brain as it recovers from a traumatic brain injury. Now in our 30s. Here's the research, Ed. So there's a great study called the Framingham Study out of Framingham, Massachusetts. It's a longitudinal study, and they follow these people literally for generations. Now what they're finding is that Alzheimer's disease starts 30 years before symptoms occur.
Ed Milet
Okay, wow.
Dr. Robert Love
Alzheimer's disease starts 30 years before we see symptoms in the form of. We'd already talked about this inflammation. So your inflammation levels at age 40 predict your risk of Alzheimer's disease at age 70.
Ed Milet
Wow. Okay.
Dr. Robert Love
So it's a really good idea to do what we can starting today to start reducing inflammation. That is the major risk factor that carries on over, over, over decades. And then, of course, habits, lifestyle habits, drinking alcohol, smoking cigarettes. These, of course, are very bad for the brain. Sedentary lifestyle, stress, low education is another one that might change as we have access to education in podcasts like this compared to traditional education. But that certainly is a risk factor as well. So starting as early as you can is a really good idea. The current data on this is that in the United States, as of today, 50% of people aged 80 and above have some form of dementia. 50% of those age 85 have Alzheimer's disease. So for those listening, if you want to reach the age of 85 and not have Alzheimer's disease, you got a coin flip chance right now. So I recommend doing everything you can to improve your odds. Start reducing your inflammation now. Start improving your sleep, exercise your brain, learn things, and. And live Live a life that you love, that you're passionate about, not in front of the tv. That makes you afraid of, of people who have different opinions than yourself.
Ed Milet
The reason that this matters, everybody, is, you know, you've all listened to the show long enough. You know, if you stick around another 10 years, you'll probably add another 20 to your life. And so because of all the things that are happening now with, you know, the way genes can be altered in their expression and the. All the different things we can do medically in the world now, stem cells, all these other things that are here and are coming, you probably will live into your 80s, 90s, or past 100 years old. Do you want to do that with a brain that's not functioning? So your body is still willing, but your mind isn't. And if we Trail by 30 years, none of you are too young to be thinking about these things. He's giving you some of the keys. If you're saying, well, reduce inflammation. How we've talked about some of those supplements you could take, some things that would contribute to you being inflamed in your body. And so this really matters. Now, here's some good news. Potentially, you believe that you actually are starting to see the signs of not only the halting of the progression of Alzheimer's, but potentially the reversal in your work. And so, again, guys, I'm not there. He's there. He's actually going to show us something we can put on the YouTube to show you actually proof of this. So I'll have you talk through what you're showing us and what you've seen. But this is really promising as well. If it's been done once, it can be replicated, potentially. So tell us what's going on there.
Dr. Robert Love
Absolutely. So I have a medical clinic in Boynton Beach, Florida. The chief medical officer and my Partner, this is Dr. Josh Hellman, a medical doctor from Harvard. He and I created the Truth About Alzheimer's program together. He is a specialist in reversing Alzheimer's disease and preventing Alzheimer's disease. And we are participating in an FDA clinical trial of a drug that is FDA approved for compassionate use for the treatment of Alzheimer's disease and other forms of dementia. Now, this is not available. This is not totally approved by the fda. So not everyone has access to it. In fact, very few medical practices have access to it. Now, I need to pardon the big disclaimer. Just want to make sure no one gets in trouble for this. So, first of all, I'm not a medical doctor. Not giving you Medical advice. Check the medical doctor before doing anything that affects your health. Number two, this drug is not fully approved by the fda. Number three, I'm not making any claims as far as the efficacy of the drug, and I'm not making any claims that it will work as well for this patient as for you. This patient did very, very well. Results may vary. Do your own research. Okay, so hopefully those are all the legal disclaimers I could possibly give about this clip. And this is a clip of. Of Susie Goldstein. And Susie Goldstein came in and she could. She. First time she came in, she forgot her paperwork to sign. And I don't know if she brought her check with her to pay for the treatment. The second treatment, she was organized enough to bring in her paperwork. And then at the end of this, you'll see her treatment. At the end of six months, she's just. She's just a totally different person.
Ed Milet
Will they be able to hear it on the audio do lover, Just see it on the YouTube? Will they be able to hear some of this?
Dr. Robert Love
Yeah, it's, It's. It's auditory. We interview her. We talked right in this.
Ed Milet
What we'll do right now is we're going to throw to that right now. Oh, have you been doing with this so far?
E
I. I've been okay. I do feel a little bit more organized and my. I have more ability. Ability to do the things that I. I want to do.
Dr. Robert Love
Please say your name and how old you are.
E
Susan Goldstein. 75.
Dr. Robert Love
What have you noticed over the last six months?
E
It's been great. It's. It's been great. There's definitely been a. An incline. And. And I feel great afterwards like I do now. Better in conversation because I used to lose track of thought. Remember that? In telling story. And I, I don't seem to do that anymore. I might lose a word here and there, but I don't. I come back to the story.
Dr. Robert Love
Working with Susie, like, God bless her, it's so wonderful. Oh, I didn't even mention this. She. She had surgery. She had major surgery. And month five, she had neck and spinal surgery. She was under anesthesia for three or five hours, which usually is a killer to memory. And she was able to bounce back after that. And so this is tremendous evidence that she was diagnosed with Alzheimer's when she came into our clinic. So the symptoms can certainly be reversed. And her breasts on, not only stopped, but she got much better. And so we're seeing that in our patients. Most of our patients show improvement after just one treatment. And the worst We've seen is, is a slight improvement and then kind of a leveling off. So we've. This treatment prevents decline. It certainly prevents the decline. Which is, which is really, which is really wonderful.
Ed Milet
Incredible. Is there something in your routine that you do that we should be doing that we haven't talked about yet?
Dr. Robert Love
I prioritize my sleep.
Ed Milet
What's that mean? You mean you have to get a certain amount, like eight hours. You're, you're trying to get into your alpha brainwave state. Like what's that mean?
Dr. Robert Love
I give myself nine hours in bed minimum. And so I give myself a chance to do that. I, I've, I recently went to, I did the function health blood analysis.
Ed Milet
Yep.
Dr. Robert Love
And I went to a longevity doctor and I said hey, looking at this, what should I do? And then they talked to me for a while and they said hey, you're, you're sleeping at 1am I said yeah, I like to work late. They said, well listen, if you go to bed at 11, your panel will actually improve your, your testosterone will go up, your energy will go up. And so I shifted my bedtime from a left from 1am to 11am this past year. That was a big improvement. I recently got an air filter. Depending on where you live, our air is kind of, it can be really toxic, especially if you're in the city. And so having a high quality air filter is really important. So prioritizing my sleep is the number one thing that I do. And then I notice if something upsets my. So I track my sleep with an aura ring. If something upsets my sleep, I take note of that. So I eat really early. I try to finish eating by 5 or 6pm, go to bed at 11pm, sleep as long as my body needs and then I intermittent fast until 11:12pm.
Ed Milet
This is something by the way that we just really have in common. I just want to say that people always ask me like Ed, what are you doing? You have access to all these people all the time. It's the number one thing I've worked on in the last year is my sleep. It's actually, I would consider it almost life changing. And I'm talking about every detail from the temperature in the room. I had to figure out what that needed to be for me. Sleep positions. I have a pad that I put under my, the pillow that you know, helps generate some stuff in my brain to get me into this state. I with my hydration when I stop eating. When I get up, I wear the aura ring as well. I check my hrv. I Mean like I'm doing the whole shebang. And I actually feel in this part of my life, I can't say with my heart or my back, the other things that many of you know that I'm working on, those things aren't so hot yet. But in terms of energy and when I wake up, like waking up like when I was 20 with energy, that's how I feel again. I used to wake up tired. I don't wake up tired anymore. I don't even wake up achy or sore anymore. Here's a really weird thing I'm doing. You may think this is bizarre. I take a shower every night before bed now. There's something about. For me with being completely clean and like just freshly showered. For me, my body just gets into this, this more relaxed state. It's just something for me. I just, I'll be shower every day, even sometimes two or three times a day. But I, I noticed these rare times where I just worked out, you know, before bed or whatever, which is not great. And I took a shower. I'm like, gosh, I feel great when I sleep like this, like perfectly lotions, you know, I mean like I'm just. And it's like I just want everybody to know it's that it's been a life changing thing for me. I didn't mean to interrupt you about your sleep.
Dr. Robert Love
No, no, that's really. Have you tried sauna before bed?
Ed Milet
I do, yep. I have sauna before bed too. I think for me it's just strange and I don't want to put any misinformation because I'm probably wrong. I think my body wants to get a little bit warm before it goes to sleep ironically and then be in a cold environment while I'm sleeping. That's just me. I also do the, do the blue light blocking lenses for a couple hours before everyone in my house thinks I'm a weirdo for wearing these glasses around the house. I'm fighting for every millimeter I can get and the depth of my sleep. I actually really believe in my case and in many of your cases as well as you think you're sleeping, there's another level to it. Just like your fitness. And I'm just convinced.
Dr. Robert Love
Absolutely. And you know Brian Johnson, who's.
Ed Milet
Yep, I know Brian.
Dr. Robert Love
He's put out some really great, really great content. Really, really trying to help people. He's working 12 hours a day.
Ed Milet
Yeah.
Dr. Robert Love
Trying, trying to do stuff. He said sleep is his number one thing. So with, with temperature. That's really interesting. Ed because our body temperature decreases. It drops when we sleep. And that's important for deep sleep. And so one of the reasons it's thought that sauna improves sleep quality is that it heats up our core temperature and then our body's fighting to bring down our core temperature. Right.
Ed Milet
Maybe that's why the warm shower works before me. Because it's an ironic thing you're saying, and we're just speculating here, but when my body is warmer, when it goes to bed and the room is cooler and probably is helping me cool down, and that's getting me into a deeper level of sleep as well. Those two factors, a little bit warm before I go to sleep and the room really cold, frankly, in my case has just helped me sleep deeper. And that's many other things. No blue light, you know, before, and no digestion during that time because I've stopped eating earlier. And by the way, like, as a guy in his 50s, I do most of my hydration way before I go to sleep at night because I don't want to get up five times at night either. So anyway, all of that people ask me all the time about owning a business. What are some of the critical things people. People matter. Things don't. And I got to be honest with you, every team that wins has great players right now. You may have just realized your business needs to hire someone like yesterday. How can you find an amazing candidate really fast? Easy. You just need Indeed. When it comes to hiring, Indeed is all you need. Stop struggling to get your job posts seen on other job sites. Indeed Sponsored Jobs posts help you stand out and hire fast. With sponsored Jobs, your post jumps to the top of the page for relevant candidates so you reach people that you want to reach faster. You only pay for results, so there's no need to wait any longer. Speed up your hiring right now with Indeed. And listeners of this Show Get a $75 sponsored job credit to get your jobs more visibility@indeed.com mylet just go to indeed.com mylet right now and support our show by saying you heard about Indeed on this podcast. Indeed.com/mylet terms and conditions apply. Hiring Indeed is all you need. Here's the thing you college guys aren't going to like and most of my buddies are. You talking about college and all the drinking you did. You say, look, alcohol is not so good for you, but you like, really go to beer. Like, I'm afraid to even put this out on the Internet that if you're going to say what I think because of all the Dudes I golf with. But, like, talk about beer and why it might not be so good for your brain.
Dr. Robert Love
Hard liquor is probably the worst for your body and brain because it really is really horrible on your gut bacteria.
Ed Milet
Except for bourbon and whiskey, right? No. Okay. Crap.
Dr. Robert Love
I wish. I wish there were exceptions.
Ed Milet
Okay?
Dr. Robert Love
Beer is really bad for a couple of reasons. Number one, beer's got gluten in it. A lot of beer has gluten in it. Gluten's inflammatory again. Inflammation increases the risk of many different chronic diseases, accelerates aging. Number two, beer increases something called uric acid, and uric acid promotes belly fats. We've all heard the expression beer belly. That's actually true. So when you drink beer increases uric acid, which promotes the storage of belly fat, which is fat around your. Your belly and as well as your organs. It's actually the dangerous fat. So the fat on your. On your butt is actually not a problem. The fat around your. Your. Your. Your stomach and the fat around your organs is actually the really dangerous fat. So it promotes that. That. That bad fat storage. So those are two reasons why beer is a problem. And. And Ed, I wanted to say one of the reasons I drank a lot in college, number one, I thought it was cool and maybe it was amongst that group, my group of peers who are, you know, knuckleheads. Number two, was that I was so not socially awkward, but I was socially incompetent. And I thought drinking alcohol would make me more socially accepted. And number three, I thought girls would like me. I found out when I went abroad, I studied abroad in Florence, Italy, and I. I drank less there and actually started smoking more cannabis. I found that when I came back to school, I actually was much more. Much more effective at charming the ladies when I drank a lot less. And so for. For the men out there who drink alcohol and drink a lot, thinking you're gonna end up with a girl if that's what you're trying to do, I don't recommend doing that. I recommend drinking less and being more interesting, being more charming and being more present. Because when we drink too much, it. First of all, it puts us at risk because I've gotten hurt drinking too much. I've fallen down, almost got hit by cars. Goodness gracious. It's a dangerous thing to do. Number two, you're a fraction of yourself. You're a ton of. Your brain is turned off when we're drunk. And people will probably like you much better if you're a nicer version of yourself. If you're More present and your brain isn't turned off from all the alcohol you've consumed.
Ed Milet
It's great advice. What about nootropics? Speaking of that, love nootropics.
Dr. Robert Love
So one of my favorites is aniracetam, spelled A N I R a C E T a M. I recently published a journal article in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease about aniracetam. And I make the claim that aniracetam likely prevents the accumulation of amyloid plaque in the brain. It likely does this through a couple of different mechanisms.
Ed Milet
Can you tell us what it's called again, one more time?
Dr. Robert Love
A N I R a C E T A M. I actually just took some today. And then I learned about this from Dave Asprey. Again. Thank you, Dave. He talked about in his book Headstrong. So aniracetam increases acetylcholine activity. Acetylcholine is one of the major neurotransmitters involved in memory. Anirasium also reduces stress and anxiety. And I've had this happen to me. It also increases the likelihood of chills down the spine when listening to music you really like. Really? So I took it once and I felt really good. And I looked this up and then other people reporting this on message boards as well, I thought, oh, wow, this is a thing. And so. So my paper is in the Journal of Alzheimer's Disease. If you look up my name and aniracetam, it'll come up. You don't need to read the paper. But the long and short of it is aniracetam improved memory in people with Alzheimer's disease in a double blind placebo controlled trial in Italy. And aniracetam is associated with all kinds of different positive benefits. It's very safe. It's neuroprotective. Aniracetam helps recovery from traumatic brain injury and recovery from stroke. They'll give mice concussions and then they'll give them aniracetam or not. And then we'll see if they remembered the water maze, for example. Those given aniracetam remember the water maze better. So it can help brain recover after stroke, traumatic brain injury, and. And it's neuroprotective as well. Improves memory. It is hard to find. Here's why you don't know about it. It's not FDA approved. Oh, so disclaimer. It's not FDA approved. Consult your doctor. It is a pharmaceutical drug. It's available in the United States. It's legal to buy, it's legal to sell. It's legal to Possess, you can't make any claims about it. So if someone sells aniracetam, they can't say improves memory, even though it does, because it's not FDA approved. Now you could say that about a supplement because supplements aren't regulated by the fda, but pharmaceuticals are. And so this is a pharmaceutical, so it's a prescription drug. In other countries, if you go to Europe, you can get it as a prescription. In the US you don't need a prescription, but just no one's selling it, can talk about its benefits.
Ed Milet
Let me ask you the last question. I'm thinking about like training things, anything else? I want to get better in my body. I train it like my. If I want my biceps to be healthier and better, I train it. If I want my cardio function to be better, I gotta to push my heart when I'm doing cardio. So your brain, like what about training it? In other words, what things physically is it. I mean, you always hear people say, do crossword puzzles, Is it reading more books, Is it challenging yourself to debate? Is it, is it writing, like, what physical things can we do, if any, that challenge our brain, push our brain? Or does that not make any impact at all?
Dr. Robert Love
It absolutely makes an impact. It goes to learning. So neurogenesis, which we talked about, the growth of new brain cells, is kind of a combination of things. One, it's growth factors which you get from exercise or lion's mane. Number two is healthy fats, which you can get from fish oil or eating healthy fatty fish. And number three is learning. You gotta have, you gotta have something to, to grow, right? So a way you can learn is travel, right? Seeing new things, learning new things, experiencing new experiences. These are great ways to grow your brain. Reading is good for two different reasons. Number one, you often learn something. And number two, if you read a novel, a really good novel, especially, you know, Stephen King is a great visual writer, you actually fall into the book. Book. So you're actually dreaming the book, right? You forget that you're reading and you're just. Your brain is coming up with these images. That's a wonderful exercise for your brain, is to read a novel and just fall into it and just be in a fantasy world that you created with your own mind. And you forget that you're reading pages on a. Reading words on a page. And so, so that's really good. And then reading, reading for information is also very good. But the important thing is you want to stay physically active and be learning with our hands. You want to be using your. So I'm right handed. So you want to use your non dominant hand. This is my left hand. So. So do things that are physically challenging for you. Learn new things. Maybe if you cook or garden. Learn, learn to do something with your hands. Use your, use your off. Tan. Offhand. Oh, sports. So the research on longevity shows that those who play tennis live, I think it's seven or nine years longer than those who are sedentary, whereas those who jog only live like two or three years longer. And tennis is way more fun. It's a couple reasons why tennis, hand, eye coordination. Right. So that's really big. So do things with your hands and eyes. Really, really important for your brain. And then number two is tennis is social. So we're having fun. We have that human connection and you're outside having fun. So all these benefits of tennis increase longevity. So it's, it's, it's learning things and ideas, having novel experiences, doing things you like. Ideally, hopefully you're not learning about calculus. If you don't like calculus, don't do that. I'm still mad they taught me calculus in high school. I could learn something useful. I mean, only, only engineers and mathematicians need calculus. I think Warren Buffett says I didn't need anything past geometry, and he says he knows plenty of math. So learn things that you're interested in and then do some physical learning as well, whether it's a sport, whether it's. I mean, music is great because you're learning physical and auditory, right?
Ed Milet
Yep.
Dr. Robert Love
So this, that's a great, great connection. But the important thing is to keep your brain active doing things that you really enjoy. I mean, each of us has, each of us to put here on this planet to experience life as, as yourself, as, as Ed Milet, as, as Robert Love, as, as, as John Smith. And so please enjoy your life experience life. Doing that will expose you to new experiences that will help help grow new brands.
Ed Milet
What's the offhand thing? What's up with that? Why offhand?
Dr. Robert Love
Just think about how much more training your dominant hand has.
Ed Milet
Okay. Yeah.
Dr. Robert Love
So much more training. So the, the neural pathways.
Ed Milet
Okay.
Dr. Robert Love
Are so much stronger with your dominant hand. So when you use this, this, this is challenge, you have to think about it. So just. Do you cook?
Ed Milet
I do. Yep.
Dr. Robert Love
Okay, so think about beating eggs. So, so I'm pretty good with my right hand. My left hand, much harder. I have to think about it.
Ed Milet
Yeah.
Dr. Robert Love
And so it involves much more thought and presence. And it's a different experience to use my left hand in a mixing bowl. Just A really simple procedure. So just try using your left hand. You just. It requires a lot more thought than using your dominant hand when you're doing.
Ed Milet
Your visualizations in your goal setting. I actually teach people to do it when they're brushing their teeth with their offhand. And so that's just right. I just wanted to correlate the two with you. Can I tell you something, Dr. Love? This is exactly how a podcast is supposed to go. I just want you to know this was a great podcast. Let me tell you why. There was not a wasted minute. We got three hours of content in here in about 55 minutes today. And it's because you get it. You know how to answer questions. You have the answers, you answer them. It's what I said in the very beginning. IQ off the charts, Brilliant man. But he can articulate like this. And if every podcast was like this, I would be very, very grateful. And that should. That just speaks to you. I just want to acknowledge you. This is. This is as good as it gets on a topic. We just go right through it. Everything was actionable, everything was tangible. Everything was valuable. And so I want to acknowledge you. I want them to be able to find you because you did such a great job. Where do we want to send them to find you?
Dr. Robert Love
If you want some free downloads and you want to learn, if you want some great lines, man, you go to robertlove.net so my name.net. there's a bunch of free courses that I offer, and then you can learn about some of the supplements I offer. And then if you want to find me on social media, just I'm Robert WB Love on Tick Tock, Instagram, Facebook, but if you just search Robert Love on any of the channels, you'll probably. You'll probably find me.
Ed Milet
This was great. This was great. And so I'm incredibly grateful for the time today, brother. Yeah, I want to have you back on.
Dr. Robert Love
Thank you. I. I'd love to be back on.
Ed Milet
So thank you so much, everybody. This was a tremendous podcast. I hope you're sharing it with everybody that you know. If you're on our email list, just go to edmylet.com, put your email in there, you'll get the podcast earlier. And everybody else, God bless you. You max out. This is the Ed Milan show.
Title: Shocking Brain Health Myths DEBUNKED by Dr. Robert Love
Podcast: THE ED MYLETT SHOW
Host: Ed Mylett
Guest: Dr. Robert Love
Release Date: July 29, 2025
In this enlightening episode of The Ed Mylett Show, host Ed Mylett welcomes Dr. Robert Love, a renowned neuroscientist and cutting-edge researcher in brain health. Together, they delve deep into common misconceptions surrounding brain health, the science of neurogenesis, and groundbreaking approaches to preventing and potentially reversing Alzheimer's disease. The conversation is rich with actionable insights, supported by scientific research, making it invaluable for anyone interested in optimizing their brain health.
Timestamp: [03:54]
Dr. Love opens the discussion by challenging the long-standing belief that adults cannot grow new brain cells. He references Dr. Elizabeth Gould's research from Princeton University, which conclusively demonstrates that neurogenesis occurs in the hippocampus well into adulthood. This revelation overturns decades-old teachings and opens doors to new therapeutic strategies.
"The myth that we can't grow new brain cells as adults is absolutely false. Research shows that we can continue neurogenesis well into our later years."
— Dr. Robert Love [03:54]
Timestamp: [05:51]
Addressing a deeply personal subject, Dr. Love shares insights into Alzheimer's disease, emphasizing that contrary to popular belief, it's not an inevitable genetic destiny. He highlights advancements that suggest Alzheimer's can be both prevented and reversed through lifestyle changes and novel treatments.
"Alzheimer's can be prevented and even reversed with the right science-backed approaches, contrary to what the standard medical community might tell you."
— Dr. Robert Love [05:51]
Timestamp: [06:12]
Dr. Love extols the virtues of lion's mane mushroom, describing it as the "Swiss army knife of supplements" due to its myriad benefits. From enhancing memory and promoting the growth of new brain cells to reducing inflammation and improving sleep quality, lion's mane stands out as a pivotal component in brain health regimens.
"Lion's mane does so many wonderful things; it's like the Swiss army knife of supplements for your brain and overall health."
— Dr. Robert Love [06:12]
Timestamp: [10:28]
The conversation shifts to inflammation, with Dr. Love elucidating its role as a primary risk factor for numerous chronic diseases, including Alzheimer's, heart disease, cancer, and diabetes. He underscores how modern lifestyles — characterized by poor diet, stress, and sedentary habits — exacerbate inflammatory processes.
"High inflammation is a risk factor for almost every chronic disease, including Alzheimer's, heart disease, and type 2 diabetes."
— Dr. Robert Love [10:28]
Timestamp: [16:56]
Dr. Love explains the detrimental effects of both sugar and artificial sweeteners on the body. He highlights how artificial sweeteners can disrupt insulin signaling, leading to increased hunger and higher risks of type 2 diabetes, thereby fostering an inflammatory state detrimental to brain health.
"Artificial sweeteners can confuse your body's insulin response, leading to increased hunger and higher risk of type 2 diabetes."
— Dr. Robert Love [16:56]
Timestamp: [23:24]
Delving into the role of caffeine, Dr. Love outlines its benefits, such as enhancing focus and potentially reducing amyloid plaque accumulation—a hallmark of Alzheimer's disease. However, he cautions against excessive consumption, which can impair sleep and increase anxiety.
"Up to four cups a day can be beneficial, but over 400 milligrams may impair sleep and increase anxiety."
— Dr. Robert Love [23:24]
Timestamp: [33:05]
Emphasizing the importance of early intervention, Dr. Love discusses strategies to reduce inflammation from as early as the 20s. He advocates for quality sleep, moderated alcohol consumption, avoidance of mold exposure, and protective measures against concussions to mitigate long-term risks of Alzheimer's.
"Start reducing your inflammation now; it's a major risk factor that affects you for decades."
— Dr. Robert Love [33:05]
Timestamp: [35:40]
Sharing promising developments from his clinic, Dr. Love talks about a program he co-developed with Dr. Josh Hellman aimed at reversing Alzheimer's symptoms. While the treatment is still in the clinical trial phase and not fully FDA approved, early results show significant cognitive improvements in patients.
"We've seen patients not only halt the progression but also experience improvements in cognitive functions after treatment."
— Dr. Robert Love [35:40]
Timestamp: [49:59]
Concluding the discussion, Dr. Love provides actionable advice on stimulating brain health. He emphasizes the importance of continuous learning, physical activity, using both dominant and non-dominant hands to build neural pathways, and engaging in social and enjoyable activities like sports to promote longevity and cognitive resilience.
"Stay active and keep learning with things you enjoy; it's essential for neurogenesis."
— Dr. Robert Love [49:59]
This episode serves as a comprehensive guide to understanding and optimizing brain health. By debunking myths, highlighting the significance of lifestyle choices, and introducing innovative treatments for Alzheimer's, Dr. Robert Love provides listeners with the knowledge and tools necessary to take proactive steps toward cognitive longevity. Ed Mylett's engaging hosting ensures that complex scientific concepts are accessible and actionable, making this episode a valuable resource for anyone keen on enhancing their brain health.
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Note: Always consult with a healthcare professional before starting any new supplement or treatment regimen.