
Hosted by Kylie Kelly | Business Growth Without Social · EN
Are you frustrated with the endless grind of marketing your online business on social media and seeing minimal results for your efforts? Do you wish you could grow your email list in a way that feels good to you - and actually works - so you can start to make reliable revenue? Imagine having a business that’s not only easy and fun but also aligns with your life, allowing you to be the mother - and woman - you want to be…
Welcome to The Email Growth Show - the podcast for ambitious female business owners who want to build an online business in integrity and alignment with their life - and they want to see results fast.
Long gone are the days of putting a freebie on your website & waiting 5 years to build a large, engaged email list. Who wants to wait that long? Certainly not me - and that’s why we do things differently around here.
Through valuable & honest conversations we dive deep into relationship-based strategies to help you grow your email list WITHOUT relying on social media or paid ads. Get ready to discover alternative options you didn't even know existed, to help you grow your email list and make money in a way that feels aligned with your values and vision.
I’m your host, Kylie Kelly, a visibility and email marketing strategist, who’s passionate about ditching the social media hustle and doing things differently. Why? Because as a solopreneur & mum of two little boys, my time is limited and I need to make sure that I implement strategies that actually move the needle in my business.
In the last 2 years, I’ve grown my own email list from zero to almost 10,000 subscribers through the very same strategies I teach here: summits, bundles, freebie swaps, podcast guesting and so much more! Now, I can send an email and make sales - and that’s what I want for you too. Together, we’ll uncover the secrets to building an email list full of your ideal clients that will drive your growth & success faster than you thought was possible. If you’re a coach, course creator, or online business owner looking to grow your email list & elevate your email marketing, this podcast is for you.
You'll find answers to questions like:
- How can I grow my email list without social media?
- What should I send to my email list every week?
- How do I build trust with my email subscribers?
- How can I monetize my email list effectively?
- How do I write engaging email subject lines that boost open rates?
- How do I find potential partners to collaborate with?
Tune in for actionable email marketing tips and simple strategies to grow your online business without getting frustrated or burnt out. With a mix of solo episodes and guest interviews, you will walk away feeling empowered, inspired and equipped with practical steps to build a thriving email list and make social media optional.
Ready to ditch the overwhelm and start to actually grow that email...

Most business problems aren't actually offer problems.They're traffic problems.In this episode, I'm unpacking why audience growth has become my biggest focus, how growing your email list makes every other part of your business easier, and why getting more of the right people into your world should be your number one priority for the rest of the year.If you've been wondering whether you need a new offer, a better launch, or another strategy... this episode might just change the way you think about growth.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why most businesses have a traffic problem - not an offer problem.The mindset shift that completely changed how I'm approaching business growth.How consistent audience growth makes launching, selling, and collaborations easier.Why diversifying your traffic sources matters more than ever.The simple maths behind adding 50 new subscribers a day—and what that could mean for your business.Why your email list is still the most valuable business asset you can own.Mentioned in this episode:50 A Day – Learn the simple system I'm using to consistently grow my email list by up to 50 new subscribers every day (without relying on going viral).👉 https://kyliekelly.thrivecart.com/50-a-day/Ready to grow your business without social media or burnout?🎉 Join Email Marketing Skool here:https://www.skool.com/email-marketing-skool/aboutp.s - Loving the show? Hit follow or subscribe so you never miss a new episode. And if you want to support the podcast, sharing it with a biz friend is the best way to spread the love!

👉 50 a Day Mini Course: https://kyliekelly.thrivecart.com/50-a-day 👈In this episode, I'm taking you behind the scenes of my brand-new mini course, 50 a Day. While it teaches you how to consistently grow your email list, the real lesson is much bigger than that. If you're ready to stop building your business on rented land and start creating sustainable growth you actually own, this episode is for you.What You'll Learn in This Episode:The difference between borrowed audiences and an audience you actually own.Why consistency compounds - and how adding just a handful of subscribers each day can completely transform your business.The simple framework behind 50 a Day that combines borrowed audience strategies, evergreen visibility, and irresistible lead magnets.Why simple systems always outperform complicated strategies you never stick with.Ready to grow your business without social media or burnout?🎉 Join Email Marketing Skool here:https://www.skool.com/email-marketing-skool/aboutp.s - Loving the show? Hit follow or subscribe so you never miss a new episode. And if you want to support the podcast, sharing it with a biz friend is the best way to spread the love!

Note [added after recording]: Since recording this episode, my Meta Ads account was unexpectedly disabled while under review. The results and numbers shared in this episode were accurate at the time of recording. If anything, the experience reinforced one of the biggest lessons you'll hear in this episode: don't rely on a single traffic source. Diversifying how people discover your business isn't just smart marketing - it's good business.Over the past couple of weeks, I've been running a little experiment that honestly made me question everything - in the best possible way. I launched Meta ads to complete strangers before I'd even finished creating my brand-new digital product. Yep… slightly unhinged, but surprisingly effective.But this episode isn't really about Meta ads.It's about what happened when I put my work in front of people who didn't already know, like and trust me - and why it reminded me that most business owners don't have an offer problem.They have a traffic problem.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why selling to cold traffic triggered a whole new level of imposter syndrome.The surprising numbers from my first Meta ads experiment.Why traffic is often the missing piece behind slow sales.How I'm building a business around systems instead of constant launching.Why diversifying your traffic sources is one of the smartest moves you can make.Mentioned in this episode:50 a Day mini course: https://kyliekelly.thrivecart.com/50-a-day/Ready to grow your business without social media or burnout?🎉 Join Email Marketing Skool here:https://www.skool.com/email-marketing-skool/aboutp.s - Loving the show? Hit follow or subscribe so you never miss a new episode. And if you want to support the podcast, sharing it with a biz friend is the best way to spread the love!

I recently made a business decision that surprised a lot of people… I moved my entire email list from Kit to Flodesk. But this isn't a "Kit vs Flodesk" episode.It's a conversation about something much bigger: how your business evolves, how your priorities shift, and why the tools that got you here aren't always the tools that will get you there.In this episode, I'm sharing why I made the move, what changed in my business, and the questions every business owner should be asking as they grow.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why I moved from Kit to Flodesk after four yearsHow changing business models changes your software decisionsThe hidden cost of complexity in your businessWhy loyalty to tools isn't a strategyThe question every business owner should ask regularly: "Does this still fit?"Mentioned:Check out Kit here: CLICK HERECheck out Flodesk here: CLICK HERE* these are both my affiliate links btw.Ready to grow your business without social media or burnout?🎉 Join Email Marketing Skool here:https://www.skool.com/email-marketing-skool/aboutp.s - Loving the show? Hit follow or subscribe so you never miss a new episode. And if you want to support the podcast, sharing it with a biz friend is the best way to spread the love!

What happens to your sales emails once your launch is over? If the answer is "absolutely nothing"… you're not alone.In this episode, I'm joined by marketing strategist Dama Jue, who shares how she repurposes her best-performing launch emails into an evergreen sequence that keeps making sales months - and sometimes years - later.We also dive into her genius 4x4 Footer strategy, why she refuses to batch her emails, and how simple automations can create more revenue without creating more work.If you're looking for smarter ways to get more from the emails you're already writing, you're going to love this conversation.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why your launch emails shouldn't disappear after cart closeHow to create an evergreen sequence from old sales emailsThe genius behind the 4x4 Footer strategyWhy writing emails live can create stronger connection and conversionsHow conditional content creates a more personalised experienceSimple ways to create more sales from emails you've already writtenGuest Spotlight: Dama JueDama Jue is an email marketing strategist, systems nerd, and creator of Lazy Funnels. She helps digital product creators sell more with simple automations, strategic systems, and low-lift funnels that keep working long after launch day.🎧 Join Dama's email list: https://damajue.com/kylieLinks & Resources:🔗 Opt into Dama's email list here: https://damajue.com/kylie🔗 Four By For Footer Training (affiliate link) 🔗 Free Airtable trainingReady to grow your business without social media or burnout?🎉 Join Email Marketing Skool here:https://www.skool.com/email-marketing-skool/aboutp.s - Loving the show? Hit follow or subscribe so you never miss a new episode. And if you want to support the podcast, sharing it with a biz friend is the best way to spread the love!

A mentor I respect recently said something during a live training that genuinely stopped me in my tracks:"If I was starting from scratch in 2026, I wouldn't even bother building an email list."And honestly? I nearly fell off my chair.In this episode, I'm unpacking why that advice might make perfect sense for some business owners... and be incredibly dangerous for others.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why business advice without context can lead you in the wrong directionThe real role email plays in a modern online businessWhy Skool communities and email lists work better togetherHow AI is changing marketing [and what it can't replace]Ready to grow your business without social media or burnout?🎉 Join Email Marketing Skool here:https://www.skool.com/email-marketing-skool/aboutp.s - Loving the show? Hit follow or subscribe so you never miss a new episode. And if you want to support the podcast, sharing it with a biz friend is the best way to spread the love!

AI can now connect directly to email platforms like Kit and Flodesk.And while everyone seems to be asking whether AI can write their emails, I think they're missing the much bigger opportunity.In this episode, I'm sharing why I believe the future of AI in business isn't content creation - it's interpretation.We're talking about what happens when AI can analyse your data, spot patterns, surface insights in seconds, and help you understand your audience better than ever before.But we're also diving into the trust and consent conversation that comes with these new tools - and why business owners need to think carefully about how they use AI as this technology continues to evolve. Because while AI is changing how we create content, I think the businesses that thrive over the next decade will be the ones that understand their audience best.What You'll Learn in This Episode:What it means for AI tools like Claude to connect directly to your email platformWhy I think most business owners are focusing on the wrong part of the AI conversationHow AI helped me uncover surprising insights from my own email marketingThe shift from information to interpretation - and why it mattersThe trust and consent questions every business owner should be askingWhy relationships, community, and connection are becoming more valuable in an AI-powered worldKey TakeawayThe future doesn't belong to the people creating the most content.It belongs to the people who understand their audience the best.Ready to grow your business without social media or burnout?🎉 Join Email Marketing Skool here:https://www.skool.com/email-marketing-skool/aboutp.s - Loving the show? Hit follow or subscribe so you never miss a new episode. And if you want to support the podcast, sharing it with a biz friend is the best way to spread the love!

✨ Learn more about the Interactive Offer Intensive:https://kyliekelly.com/ai-offer-intensive----------Most lead magnets aren't being consumed - they're being collected.Downloaded. Saved. Added to a folder called "I'll look at this later."And then never opened again.In this episode, I'm sharing why I think we're entering a new era of audience growth - one where information alone is no longer enough.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why traditional lead magnets are becoming harder to stand out withThe shift from information to personalisationHow I turned an old PDF into Subject Line StudioThe difference between passive content and interactive experiencesWhy quizzes, assessments, calculators, planners, and AI-powered tools are gaining tractionHow to create a lead magnet people actually use instead of simply downloadKey TakeawayThe value isn't the PDF.The value is the expertise inside the PDF.The PDF is just the container.✨ Learn more about the Interactive Offer Intensive:https://kyliekelly.com/ai-offer-intensiveReady to grow your business without social media or burnout?🎉 Join Email Marketing Skool here:https://www.skool.com/email-marketing-skool/aboutp.s - Loving the show? Hit follow or subscribe so you never miss a new episode. And if you want to support the podcast, sharing it with a biz friend is the best way to spread the love!

Today I'm joined by launch strategist and copywriter Brenna McGowan to talk about a question that's been floating around the online business world lately:Is launching still working in 2026?Fresh off one of her biggest launches ever, Brenna shares what she's seeing work right now, why cookie-cutter launches are falling flat, and how pre-launch strategy can completely transform your results.If you've ever felt like launching is harder than it used to be, this conversation will give you practical strategies and a whole lot of hope.What You'll Learn in This Episode:Why launching isn't dead - but lazy launching isThe importance of pre-launch content and buyer considerationHow trust impacts conversions in today's marketCreative launch strategies including private podcasts, auctions, affiliates, and ROI calculatorsWhat to do if your last launch didn't go to planHow to use data instead of emotions when evaluating launch resultsGuest Spotlight: Brenna McGowanBrenna McGowan is a launch strategist and copywriter who helps online business owners create intentional pre-launch strategies that build trust, increase conversions, and make launches feel significantly less stressful.🔗 Brenna's Launch Report: https://brennamcgowan.co/launch-report/🔗 Reducing Launch Stress With An Effective Pre-Launch Strategy with Brenna Mcgowan [Ep 156]Ready to grow your business without social media or burnout?🎉 Join Email Marketing Skool here:https://www.skool.com/email-marketing-skool/aboutp.s - Loving the show? Hit follow or subscribe so you never miss a new episode. And if you want to support the podcast, sharing it with a biz friend is the best way to spread the love!

250 episodes. Honestly… that feels a little wild 😭When I recorded episode one, I had no idea this podcast would become such a huge part of my business - or teach me so much about what it actually takes to build something that lasts.In this milestone episode, I’m reflecting on the biggest lessons I’ve learned after 250 episodes, multiple business pivots, burnout seasons, visibility experiments, and building a six-figure business through relationship-led email marketing.This is a more personal episode. Less “how to” and more “here’s what I know to be true now.”If you’re building a business and wondering whether consistency, email, relationships, or playing the long game actually matters… this one’s for you.What You’ll Learn in This Episode:Why consistency is boring… until it becomes your biggest advantageThe biggest lesson I’ve learned about relying on social media for business growthHow relationships have created more opportunities than reach ever hasWhy overworking is not the same as buildingWhat building 250 podcast episodes taught me about trust and visibilityWhy building things you actually own matters more than everReady to grow your business without social media or burnout?🎉 Join Email Marketing Skool here:https://www.skool.com/email-marketing-skool/aboutp.s - Loving the show? Hit follow or subscribe so you never miss a new episode. And if you want to support the podcast, sharing it with a biz friend is the best way to spread the love!