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John Curry
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Justin Colby
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John Curry
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Justin Colby
Try it for free@wix.com Harmony what is up? The entrepreneur DNA. This is going to be an incredible, incredible episode. I have a guest who not only built a business to exit in his twenties, he now is a real estate mogul and has a lot of different opinions and insight on how you can build a business to sell and how real estate is the best asset there is in the world. John Curry is here. What's up dude?
John Curry
Glad to be here, Justin.
Justin Colby
So we started off by saying you were able to build and sell a business in your 20s. By the way, if you guys don't know what kind of feat that is, that's really an impressive feat. We all want to grow and scale businesses. This guy's already done it in his 20s and now we're here. So talk to us about your first business venture. Cell phone repair. These little things guys, these guys that break and chip and shut down all the time. You were able to create a franchise model and.
John Curry
Yeah.
Justin Colby
How many locations did you have?
John Curry
We had 160.
Justin Colby
160 locations fixing phones, 38 states.
John Curry
Yeah. Started as a cell phone repair and then it turned into like a big accessory business.
Justin Colby
No kidding.
John Curry
So we basically were designing, manufacturing our own accessory lines of products. Then we did repair. It was, it was, it was a ride, man. 20, 22 to 28. I was in that business. It was quick.
Justin Colby
So you, now you're 22 years old, how do you even get into that? You're just like, I'm a hustler. I mean you go figure out a way to make some money. Is that kind of the, the impetus of the whole thing or what?
John Curry
Yeah, I mean I was, I was working at an ATT retailer, actually AT&T corporate. Guy walks in, he's like, you know, go. He says, I need to pay my bill. He walked into the back of the store, I said, oh yeah, it's back there. And he's. And so he pays his bill, he walks to the front and I said, hey, what's that? What's. What kind of phone is that? He goes, oh this? I bought it Here. I said, we had a crazy colors on it. This case had a bunch of crazy colors on it. I said, where do you get that? He goes, you know what? I'm selling them. I sell them at the flea market. So we exchanged phone numbers. Yeah, I called him when I got out and I realized this guy was like, kind of working on the back of his truck. And, man, we became partners. I didn't have any money at the time. I got a $2,500 cash advance in my Visa card.
Justin Colby
Oh, there it is.
John Curry
And we opened up a kiosk at a mall, and we were basically. A kiosk business.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And then two days, five, six, seven long days. I mean, no sleep. Sleeping on the couch, hotel rooms, you know, sleeping in my car. And then I. I was, I was buying a house and I called a friend of mine and I said, hey, can you help me move in? He's like, sure. So he's moving stuff. He's like, how'd you buy this house? I'm like, oh, I'm doing this business. And he goes, I heard you were doing that business. How's it going? I was like, it's going real well. He goes, can I get involved? I sold him a location in Clearwater, Florida.
Justin Colby
Okay.
John Curry
And from there it was like, Clearwater, Tampa.
Justin Colby
Him or you?
John Curry
It was him.
Justin Colby
I just kept buying.
John Curry
Well, basically, what happened, I said, look, man, it's 95% for you and 5% for me here. And at that point, a bunch of my friends got involved, started scaling the business. Before I knew it, you know, tractor trailers are backing up to a warehouse. I'm, I'm. I have my own brand of accessory products. You know, we've got 4,000 items. We've got, you know, wireless dimensions stamped on everything. And, you know, I'm up till 3 o' clock in the morning talking to people in China, and, and I was saying to myself, am I, am I, Are we fixing phones? Are we selling accessories? Are we retailer? Are we a wholesaler? Are we a franchise? And what happened was we were all of that. So there was like five revenue streams in one business. And that's how I learned how to scale a company.
Justin Colby
So. And guys, first of all, I want you guys to understand we have a friendship and we're a part of Mastermind. We're big in real estate together. But this is something I've never known about John Kerr. This is incredible, dude. So your like your story of long nights sleeping on couches, all in just hustling. This is kind of what I would think is almost. I don't want to say it's the American dream, but anyone who's ever created anything, that's the story. Like anyone listening to this thinking they want to go create something special, you don't go to special without that. I mean, would you, would you say, like, if someone wants to understand how to go build a business, that is the most important part of that?
John Curry
Yeah, absolutely. I mean, the inner drive, the hustle, the want, you know what I mean? It's, it's like playing a game. It's like being in sports, you know what I mean? You got to want to win, you know, and for me at that point, I mean, I had, you know, I had nothing to lose because I was young, right?
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
But I also, you know, just gave up a pretty good job in, in corporate, you know, AT&T corporate. I could have moved up the chains, you know, and, and, and I said, you know, there, it's, it's, it's fight or flight, right?
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And so at that point, I looked at my credit card statement and I'm like, the interest is accruing, you know, and so it was like, let's do it. We gotta just do it. And so I realized I couldn't do it all by myself. So really what I started doing is investing in people.
Justin Colby
Sure.
John Curry
So the biggest thing I learned early on was to invest in people and, and to just rinse and repeat and do things over and over again the
Justin Colby
same way you took a pretty big risk. You went out and got. Was it a credit card or a Bank loan for 25?
John Curry
It was a credit card. It was just, it was basically, I had a, I had a credit card with a $25 limit.
Justin Colby
Is there anything you've never invest like there's nothing you've not invested in. And I'm not saying you. But as an entrepreneur, there's no world that you make any difference in your business without investing into it first.
John Curry
Correct.
Justin Colby
Now you invested in people, but initially you had to invest in the actual business, dollars and cents into the business to get it started.
John Curry
Correct.
Justin Colby
Most people have the hardest time with that one factor. Okay, how do I, how do I get started? Right. So now you're, you're, you're going through a different season of your life. You're in your late 40s. Go talk to the person like, how do you get started? How do you become John Curry that me and I'm sitting across from now that has a lot of success that we're going to talk about. But you started with a $2,500 credit card to go. Say it, risk it all charges to the game. Let's go. How does someone take this episode and have enough fortitude to get going on what they want to go do?
John Curry
You know, I think what happens with a lot of the people that I talk with, they think that they need a lot of money to get started. And so what I tell people is it's not. It's. There is the money factor, sure. But it's really the execution. A lot of people fail in the execution part, the money. I have a, I've had several companies that are self funded, Right. So you start with 2500, you got 5, you got 10, you got 20,000, 2 million bucks. I mean, if you start parlaying your efforts, that money is just going to come. I, as a matter of fact, I've had, you know, dozen companies.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And I have never bought a business over $25,000 of my money.
Justin Colby
So no one needs a lot of money.
John Curry
No.
Justin Colby
They need execution.
John Curry
Yes.
Justin Colby
I find this to be one of the more truer statements in life. People want something they're not willing to go do to get it. I'll use a simpler version. People want a six pack, but they are not going to eat healthy.
John Curry
Right.
Justin Colby
It just doesn't exist. All right? So you can't go, want a business, want more financial freedom, want to make a whole lot more money, but not go execute on how to actually go do that. Okay. You don't need a lot of money. I'm literally doing a training and you and I are in real estate on how you can have 100% financing for all your fix and flips forever and never need a dollar of your own. However, people don't understand that and they think, I don't know how to get started in fix and flipping. You just don't know what I know or what John knows. Right. I mean, you know this to be true.
John Curry
Yeah.
Justin Colby
But it's the execution, so what happens? And you, I'm sure you see this to be true is people get caught up in the fear of actually failing, so they don't go execute. And it was never about the money to begin with. It was like, oh no, if I go try this and I fail. Now the ridicule of all that bullshit, right? The family, the friends, you know, everyone's going to make fun of me.
John Curry
What's the fear? Right? I mean, it's always the fear, right? So you have to, you have to want it. You have to go all in and just Failure is no option.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And you know, what I like to do is I put the pressure on myself to perform and get it off the ground, and then it's the people that come with you along the way and the. And that you get the buy in from them. Then all of a sudden, then you start to scale. But, you know, I'll tell you right now, if you're waiting for money to
Justin Colby
be successful, you're gonna be waiting a long time.
John Curry
You wait a long time, you don't need it.
Justin Colby
I have a buddy here. This podcast studio is a actual embodiment of everything you just said. The guy who started this studio that we're recording in was that person. Wow. He didn't want to wait. He was making a lot of money and knew he had more of a desire to go execute on something else besides loans. He was in real estate. And you. You guys can talk offline, but like, that. The truer statement has never been said about what, like, if you're waiting for money to go doing what you're doing, you're going to wait, and then you're not going to be fulfilled. 28 years old, you exit this company.
John Curry
Right?
Justin Colby
What was that like?
John Curry
It was wild, man. I mean, I. I left my attorney's office.
Justin Colby
Rich.
John Curry
Yeah, I was that at the time I got in. I don't know what. I was driving some fly car at the time. And this is. This is what, really?
Justin Colby
And you exited in 2023 or you
John Curry
started in 2020 or, I'm sorry, 2003.
Justin Colby
You exited then or you started then?
John Curry
I exited.
Justin Colby
Okay.
John Curry
Yeah, it was. It was like 90, 98 to 2003. So I get in my car and I'm like, wow, I got all this money. I got all this time. And so, you know, Monday comes around or whatever it was. The following week comes around. I think we closed on a Friday. And I'm like, hey, you want to go play golf today or today? You know, we want to go on the boat. And it was like, oh, we're. We're working, we're busy. We're. You know, we can't. Like, all right, well, like, we just kind of plan a vacation. All right, when do you want to do it? And everybody was busy. Everybody was like, had their own life. And I'm sitting here and I'm like, well, I want to go do some fun stuff.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
It was interesting when I sat down with the guy who bought my business, who was very, very well known in Fort Lauderdale, by the way.
Justin Colby
Okay. He.
John Curry
He buys companies and scales Them and he said to me, I'm gonna give you this pen. It was a Mount Blanc pen. And he says, before you sign this paperwork, I just want you to know if you can afford to do it every single day, it's no longer going to be fun. Had no idea what that meant.
Justin Colby
You're like, sure buddy, give me my money.
John Curry
Yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay pal. You know Brooks, I'm like robo signing. Yeah, I got like, you know, carpal tunnel over here. I'm going to think. And then I don't know when it was. It was, you know, a couple years later and I said to myself, I knew exactly what that meant. The fun is when you make things happen. The fun is when you have to, you know, you know, kind of make, make a deal here to go do this or do that. And he was basically saying like, if you can go on your boat every single day, it's no longer fun to go on your boat. That's right. So I learned a lot about that. I stayed with the company for. They had me on a one year contract. I stayed there for like less than 30 days. They, they paid me my balance and I went out and you know, basically said, what am I going to do?
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And I went, I went in the real estate business and opened a brokerage company and didn't, didn't have a real estate license, didn't broker's license, didn't have a sales associate license, nothing. And I had been kind of flipping stuff and my, was making some good money on the side and they said let's turn this into a full time thing. So I just dove in and started buying real estate.
Justin Colby
In your 28, I think you. Yeah, 20 years old, already buying real estate. Just flip. Flipping or buying it and holding it?
John Curry
I was doing a variety of both.
Justin Colby
Sure.
John Curry
Yeah. I was doing like half and half. You know, I started getting commercial was like my big thing I really was, was like, you know, buying land and doing some commercial buildings and deals like that. And, and it was, it was, it was a crazy ride. I mean I felt a lot.
Justin Colby
And, and during that interim, the, the funniest thing that you bring up before we move on too far, when some, that the rich guy who bought your business and tells you like when you can do it every day, it's no longer fun.
John Curry
Right.
Justin Colby
It's the same like I'm from San Francisco. You know how many times I've walked across the Golden Gate Bridge?
John Curry
Too many times to remember. 0oh0.
Justin Colby
You know why?
John Curry
Why?
Justin Colby
Because I can do it any Day I want.
John Curry
Ah, there it was. Always available.
Justin Colby
It's always available.
John Curry
And it's like, how are you going to the beach?
Justin Colby
Zero. Like I've literally lived here since 2021 and I've been to the beach two times, maybe three.
John Curry
Gotcha. In Miami Beach.
Justin Colby
Yeah. And it is because you can do it all the time, so you don't find the fun in it anymore. Right, Right. And this is to me, I believe this is where people like, I just heard a mutual friend of ours said something that I just didn't agree with fundamentally. And he said, I have a challenge celebrating my wins.
John Curry
Wow.
Justin Colby
I make a hundred grand. I'm like, all right, whatever. I make 200 grand, whatever. And the reason why I don't fundamentally agree with it is how can you not celebrate a win like that? Fighting as hard as we fight as entrepreneurs. And the only thing I can put points to that answer is perspective is everything becomes so much nicer, better, bigger wins. When you know the other side of that win, when you know the dark side, when you know the beatings you take. Sure. Then you will celebrate the living daylights out of a hundred thousand dollar win. And it becomes perspective is. If you don't put yourself in a seat of perspective, it is very hard to enjoy much.
John Curry
It is.
Justin Colby
Because it becomes like, this is, this is what we do every day. This is what happens. Who cares? This is same thing with the bridge, same thing with the boat.
John Curry
Yeah.
Justin Colby
When it's all day, every day and this is what you do, then you don't have any perspective. Take all that away and you're living under a bridge with no house and no car and all of a sudden you have a boat to go on. That boat is a really lot of fun. Yeah, right, Exactly. And so it's always about perspective. And I think a lot of people in their life have to find perspective of where they're actually at. The other thing, I think some of us, like you and me, we're built to drive. And if you're not driving to build something, you don't have the, the energy. Because again, we sit in a place of like, okay, we make money, it's what we do. And. Right. And so I'd encourage most people listening to this is like, if you're at a place where you're probably pretty comfortable, it just goes back to comfortable. It doesn't matter how much money you're making, move, go do something to push yourself. Because otherwise you are being essentially kind of just you know, mediocre, stagnant. You're just existing.
John Curry
Yeah. I, I, right now I can kind of relate to the, the story you said, like, you know, you make 100 grand, you know, whatever, the money's great, don't get me wrong. And, you know, we need it to exist. What I've been doing now is in my mindset, I shifted and said, why do I want to make big wins? I want to make big wins because I want legacy. I want to help other people. You know, there's some charitable things that I'm doing right now. And so for me, it's like I'm not winning for myself. I'm winning for the other organizations I'm involved with and I'm winning for the people that are on my team.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
Yeah. So that's, you know, it's like you go from, you're doing it for you.
Justin Colby
I want to go get rich.
John Curry
Yeah. So it's like it was kind of like any, when you start you're an entrepreneur, it's kind of like you're playing golf. Right. There's nobody on your team, you're, you're playing golf, you're by yourself. It's your score.
Justin Colby
Right.
John Curry
And then you start scaling your business and you become a football team. Right. And then you start getting to the point where you like, you buy the football team.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
Right. So that's the evolution of being involved in business. And so, you know, there are people that are out there just like, you know, I want to make money, want to make money, want to make money, want to buy this, want to do that. But it's really about the things that you and I do.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
Which is teaching other people how to be the best version of themselves.
Justin Colby
Making impact on others will put perspective on a lot. Exactly. Right. And I think you're definitely at that place and we're going to get here. And I want to also now get back to now you jumped into real estate, but now we're getting too close to like the end. I want to get back to you're 28, you jump into real estate, you start looking at commercial, you start fixing, flipping, you start buying rentals. What was that journey like now? I mean, listen, fast forward. Brokerage, a lot of investments. Like you have a property management company. We're going to be talking about, like now you're way down this path, but at 28, what was that like getting started in a brand new industry? No experience, no knowledge, no real like education behind it. Just pure grit and like, let's go.
John Curry
Yeah. This is where I, I had the God complex. Right. This was like, been there. I'm God. I know what's going on. I can do anything. I can make money doing anything. And you know what happened?
Justin Colby
God slapped your hand? Oh, yeah.
John Curry
Face, hand, back, butt.
Justin Colby
God got.
John Curry
Dude punched me in the throat, everything.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
You know, so. Yeah, so there was a. There was a. There was a moment of humbleness that was. That went for, you know, several years.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And it was. It was. It was. It was a beating.
Justin Colby
There is no one in this podcast I've ever had on that has had any level of great success without a very similar story. It's just, you know, there's no one out there that just goes and doesn't get, you know, not punished by. I mean, just like you, you encounter challenges because you've never been there before.
John Curry
Right.
Justin Colby
It's inevitable. Right. And so, just like me, I have a very similar story. I made it all about me. Look at me. I'm gonna go build this amazing thing. I'll have 100 million in assets, and da, da, da, da. And God just looked at me. He was like, baller, it's not about you. Not about you for a second, slap my hand. And so how did you. You go into the real estate game? I'm sure you did pretty well until maybe you got a little egregious. I tell. Tell us a story of, like, what actually happened when you get into the real estate game. Then what happens?
John Curry
Well, when it was. So when you get in the real estate game, you know, I call it the big boy game, Right. You, you know, you've got properties, you got, you know, your. Your levers on some deals. You got this going on. You, you know, a tenant moves out, then another tenant moves out, and then you realize that, you know, you can't get the same amount of rent that you were getting before. So now you're 20% less. So, you know, my burn rate was. Was heavy.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And all of a sudden, I had to make a decision. I'm like, what do I keep? What do I get? What do I get rid of?
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And it was like, you know what? Here you go. Everything goes for sale.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And I kept some of the properties, got rid of some of the properties. But, you know, realistically, you know, I wasn't in the control that I thought I was because the. The market was more in control than me. And so the second Williams didn't know. I didn't know.
Justin Colby
And that's the challenge, right? You know this, and you. You mentor and help other people. And now your life is really Meant to help other people. People get into the game of anything. Not just real estate, just business. And they don't have anyone guiding them. Right. Like, I get paid. I coach people to do this. I get paid for my scars more than I get paid for the X's and O's. The X's and O's, what everyone wants to say, this is how you get rich. Here's the X's and O's. Here's the game plan. I get paid because I've been through it. I know exactly the pothole to not step in and where it's going to be and why it's going to be there. Don't go do that. Do this instead. Right, right. That's why I get paid to coach. I would say you're now at a point where you had to go through it so you can lean into, whether it be your charities or your churches or your community or your brokerage or all the people that you have in your world.
John Curry
Your.
Justin Colby
You had to go be the tip of the spear to go eat that shit sandwich, which. I know that taste. You need to be able to go do that so you then can go back to them to say, hey, follow me. Because I am the one that can actually avoid the missteps that happen to me.
John Curry
Correct. Yeah. Well, you know, it was humbling. And then it was like, you know, I. I was talking to my wife and she's like, what are you talking about? Like, it's just a mindset. Like, go out there and do it again.
Justin Colby
Yep.
John Curry
So I did it again. Did it again. You know, I'm probably on my fourth life right now.
Justin Colby
Sure.
John Curry
But, you know, really, it's. It's really about making sure that you, you know, pick the right people along the way. You take care of those people.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And, you know, you have to have a sustainable business that, you know, people. People either want the product or the service that you're selling. You know, I think the biggest thing for me is I tried to create new markets. Right. Disruptor markets and, you know, things that had never been done before. And those are great, those are swinging for the fences. But I. But I did notice that most of the time when I was doing something that was kind of mainstream and did a little bit better than somebody else.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
That's when the wins really started to happen.
Justin Colby
So take something that people know how to do, but then make it your own. Do it better. Have your spin on it.
John Curry
Yeah.
Justin Colby
And that's where you're going to get your lift.
John Curry
You know, you don't need to. I mean, it's, it's. I mean, my. I would say if there's one thing in life that I've always wanted that I don't have is inventing something. Right. So you could spend a lot of time trying to invent something new.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
But you and I both know it's not about the product.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
It's about the execution.
Justin Colby
That's right.
John Curry
Right. And it's about making things happen. So, you know, you know, you don't need to wait for the purple unicorn to come.
Justin Colby
You. Yeah.
John Curry
You know, just get involved in something that you like that you're doing, do it better, do. Work harder, work faster, work smarter, and then that's going to happen no matter what you do.
Justin Colby
Yeah. And so now you're in a space of. You're still in real estate in a big way. You pivoted maybe from. And, And I'm correct me, where maybe I'm misaligned, but you pivoted from more of a transactional buying rentals fix and flipping into building out a brokerage, getting a lot more. What's the word?
John Curry
Passive or no, but,
Justin Colby
you know, blank on the word. Like you, you. The business model.
John Curry
I don't. I literally can't think the business model of selling real estate versus buying and buying real estate.
Justin Colby
Traditional is the word I was thinking. Okay, so you get into more of a traditional style of real estate. You get into a brokerage license listings, buying, selling, but also still keeping the fix and flipping.
John Curry
Right.
Justin Colby
Did that help you navigate kind of the storm that you went through to kind of normalize the storm, get back on even, you know, solid ground and then to grow the way you've grown. Yeah.
John Curry
See, what happens is, for me is, as an entrepreneur is when you wake up in the morning, sometimes you don't necessarily have a playbook.
Justin Colby
Right.
John Curry
Because you're the one that's. That's making the plays.
Justin Colby
Right.
John Curry
So what I've noticed is when I have a steady business that is, you know, real estate brokerage, for example, and then I'm out doing fix and flips and I'm buying deals and doing land deals and stuff, that steady business that I have is keeping me grounded. It's keeping me organized. I'm able to use those resources that I have Right. On the home front to go out and do this other stuff and then come back home and then go to other stuff and then come back home. And so what I've noticed with people is, is that when they, they either sell their company or they you know, say, oh, I want to work by myself, or I don't really want to, you know, do this again. I think, you know, there's, there's all different kind of personalities, but for me, I love the steady, the office, open people, they're doing transactions. That business actually brings me more deals on my other side. So it's kind of a feeder for that.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And so that's worked for me is having those people with me along the way to help me successful because I know I can't do it alone.
Justin Colby
There's. That's right.
John Curry
I'm not a solo guy.
Justin Colby
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so building a business, creating a brokerage allows you to have an opportunity to have a lot of people around you that can be better than, you know, more than you. And you're able to go run in the seat that you sit in. What do you think is your perfect seat? As John Curry?
John Curry
I'm definitely a creator for sure.
Justin Colby
Okay.
John Curry
You know, I, I love starting stuff. I hate finishing it. I love coming back in the middle and then, you know, fixing it. So we have a joke in the office. It's like, you know, John, don't you have a trip you're going to take sometime soon? You know, I mean, it's like I got things rolling and then I kind of, I muddy the waters a little bit. So then I leave, I come back and then they fix it and I come back. And so I think, you know, for me it's, it's the creativity side is what I love. And then I love to see the success. And so I'm definitely not a CEO.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
I definitely need an implementer, an integrator.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
But that's, that's how probably you and I are both built the same.
Justin Colby
Of course, I'm exactly the same.
John Curry
But, you know, I just really like to see, I like to put people in the right places, I guess would be my big thing. So, you know, we're, we're, we're scaling and building a property management business right now. We've had for several years and we've realized that we were like, wow, this, this business is, it's a great business, but we need to, we need, we need to fix it a little bit.
Justin Colby
Okay.
John Curry
And so, you know, a couple years ago, we, we transitioned and made it, made it better and.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
Rebranded and fixed it.
Justin Colby
And so this goes to your theme of like, take a business that's already around, take a traditional type of business, fix it, make it better, make it yours, get some nuance to it. That can say this is the John Curry style of property management. So. Yeah. So what, what does that look like for this property management group?
John Curry
You know, basically the business is called One Call. Right. And. And so we've realized that a lot of people just don't love the. To. To own a house because of the maintenance.
Justin Colby
Sure.
John Curry
So they like to own. They don't like the maintenance. So traditionally, over the past decade, we have, you know, people have hired us to property to manage their. Their investment properties. They're duplex, their quadplex, their commercial building, collect the rent, kick the people out when they don't pay, do all the stuff that owners don't want to do. Right. And I said, we said to ourselves, well, every day people are calling us, I need a drywall guy, I need a painter, I need a plumber. So what we did was we took our. Our business model that was dealing with people who have investment properties, and we said, we can manage your own personal property, your own commercial. Your. Your commercial building that you. That you work in every single day. So we do facilities maintenance. So it's. It's like you're making one phone call to us.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
We'll deploy anybody you need. We'll keep all of your records. We know when you bought your refrigerator, when your hot water heater was purchased, when the warranty expires, all the information in the database, and you get a monthly statement. Every month or at the end of the year, you just print out something to give to your tax accountant. And basically you love your house again, because all the things you don't like about your house, we handle it with one phone call.
Justin Colby
Are you talking about a person's personal house? Yeah, their personal house.
John Curry
Yeah. So we've got a lot of clients that have, like, bigger homes. You know, they've got multiple systems.
Justin Colby
Well, I mean, I think when people think property management, they think rentals.
John Curry
Yeah.
Justin Colby
And that's not alone is the nuance that I think you're talking about. Like, you're changing the game to say, like, I'm. I'm a client for sure. Right. I hate my appliances. I hate my gardening. I hate my. I literally have seven people that I gotta go call.
John Curry
Right.
Justin Colby
I had a closet break on me the other day. I gotta go call a contractor because I'm not a handyman. I can't figure out how to. I'm like, oh, my God. Yeah. So we're there. We would be able to call this company, and it's called. What's the name of One Call? One Call.
John Curry
Yeah.
Justin Colby
And I can call and say, hey, my closet is broken.
John Curry
Right.
Justin Colby
Can someone come fix it? Yeah. And you are the one call I make and the rest handled.
John Curry
Yeah. You pay an annual fee.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
To, like, be a part of this concierge service. And then we're very. We're very transparent in our pricing, and we're very transparent and. And all the things that we do, like, you know, exactly who's going to show up and when they're going to show up.
Justin Colby
We actually will take care of the contractor. So a washer machine breaks, I call you, you go find the right appliance guy. Fridge breaks, same thing. Pool, same thing. You're calling to find. You're finding the people, you're pricing it out, you're figuring out what it's going to look like. And then what? You just call me back and say, you know, to fix that, it's going to be 40 bucks or whatever?
John Curry
Yeah. So our model is basically, we're going to do it quicker and cheaper and more efficiently. And, you know, the only time that ever is going to be different is. Is, you know, you. You find the guy on the side of the street that's going to, you know, go do it on the side that's not licensed or insured or anything like that. You know, maybe, you know, you can find those type of people. But all these people are vendors that we use all the time. We've got a relationship with. We work well with them. And so that business model is expanding across the United States. We're actually taking that just like we did with what I did with some of my other companies.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And realizing that that market is something that everybody needs all over. Right. We don't. We don't just do it in Florida.
Justin Colby
I mean, even if you just went and talked to every single listener of the entrepreneur DNA, all we want is someone to fix our problem. Like, I don't want to deal with the closet in my own. Like, I have zero desire or time or bandwidth.
John Curry
Oh, you're pretty good with a drill, though, aren't you? Hell, no. Okay.
Justin Colby
My running joke is I can't put in a light bulb. I'm like, honey, we got to call the contractor. I can't even. Right. Yeah. But the marketplace has got to be huge for this. I mean, you're the total addressable market, Tam. For what people don't know. It's like every man. Like, there are some men that pride themselves. I got it. But nowadays, I feel like there's less men that are like the. I'll go Fix.
John Curry
Yeah, that, that, that's, that's, that's gone away. Right. That's not, that's not the, that's not the, the cool thing to do on the weekends anymore, you know, because what happens right now is there's general contractor.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
And then there's all the stuff that, you know, the general contractor wants to come out and do a remodel and wants to charge you a couple hundred grand.
Justin Colby
Right.
John Curry
You know, the handyman is kind of going away a little bit. It's hard to find that person. Or if you find the person, they don't show up on time, they smell like smoke. They don't, you know, they don't have any insurance, you know, whatever. So we're filling the gap in between.
Justin Colby
Right.
John Curry
I don't need a general contractor to fix my closet. You know, I, I, I definitely don't need the handyman.
Justin Colby
Right.
John Curry
I just, I need, I need somebody who knows how to get in and out of this situation. Not going to get overcharged. I'm not going to wait a week. And that's where one call comes into play.
Justin Colby
What. So when you start this business, this is totally you and me, by the way. Like, good idea. Let's go execute on that. How big is it going to be? When's it start? When like, are you, you're up and running or do you have one location now or.
John Curry
Yeah, we, we have, we have one location right now.
Justin Colby
Okay.
John Curry
We've absolutely perfected it.
Justin Colby
And it's in, where? Somewhere in Florida.
John Curry
Brevard County. Florida.
Justin Colby
Okay.
John Curry
Yeah.
Justin Colby
And then what's the next steps for this company?
John Curry
We are going to be working on different locations in central Florida.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
But there's a business opportunity available for any, anybody in the US that would like to be a, a part of this business model.
Justin Colby
So essentially like a handyman person could, could own a franchise to some extent they could. Is that what you're saying?
John Curry
Yeah. And, and you know, there's, there's certain things that are involved in property management, like certain states need, you need real estate license and things of that nature. But, you know, we've, we've got a, we've got a model, a package that just says, look, you want to get into business, this is what it is. We'll help you scale it, and then in a couple years you'll have, you know.
Justin Colby
So what do you. Now, now I'm just curious. So you take on the liability of the licensing and all that kind of stuff in these states for insurance.
John Curry
Right.
Justin Colby
They get to be a franchisee I'm using the word franchise. I don't know if you're going to franchise or are you going to franchise?
John Curry
It's a business opportunity in the beginning. Then once we, once we start to go to other states, then we're going to franchise.
Justin Colby
Yeah, absolutely. So you take on liability, they get to hang their hat on it to some extent. There'll be a one call brand. Hey, I own one call. Memphis, Tennessee. I know, making it up. And they call into one call and you guys route the phone to John, who actually owns the franchise or whatever it may be, and he comes in, fixes.
John Curry
We take all the pain points out of, out of running a business. The day to day stuff. Right. So we're a 24 hour business. Right. So 2 o' clock in the morning, your main water line breaks.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
We answer the phone, we deploy somebody. So it just depends on the scalability of what that licensee would like.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
So we'll offer anything from answering Your phone calls 24 hours a day to only answering them at night. Interesting. But this is a wild business. It's really cool because it's a residual business.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
Where you get reoccurring revenue. And so the traditional real estate model like you and I know is, you know, one and done or fix and flip and, and, and get the cash. But it's, it's, it's like a, it's kind of like an annuity. Right. So you're building a business that's got residual income, annual subscriptions, monthly payments, things of that nature. And what happens, it's like anything else. Once you get used to a concierge type service.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
Clients don't want to get rid of it. No. Like they don't want to all of a sudden start tackling it on their own. You know, and for the, for the little bit amount of money that it is, is we, we have it scaled based on the size of your property. It's, it's going to be one of those things where once you start and you, and you hire us, well, it's the same thing.
Justin Colby
Like I do not mow my own lawns. Right. I do not do my pool cleaning. Like, if you were to tell me I have now go start doing those type of things, I would be very frustrated. Right. Like, that would suck. You were like, you literally have an audience listening to this right now that is probably like, how do you hurry up and get into my neck of the woods? Because I need this. I mean, I'm one of your clients, like right now. Like, yes, I Have these people. But when you own a 3,000 square foot home or 3,000, like goes wrong all the time.
John Curry
All the time.
Justin Colby
And people don't like, by the way. And you're a realtor and an investor in this real estate mogul. Like I actually don't agree with. Most people should own a home. What's your point of view? Like, I'm vehemently actually in disagreement with it.
John Curry
You feel that some people cost. You feel that some people should not own a home.
Justin Colby
Should not. Like 80% of society.
John Curry
I can, I just made up 80 on my ass.
Justin Colby
But there's a reason why it's that high.
John Curry
I can definitely live in a house like mine cheaper if I rented it.
Justin Colby
Thank you. Thank you very much for saying that.
John Curry
Well, the truth.
Justin Colby
But it's the truth and people are stuck. And you're a realtor. That's why I asked you, you know,
John Curry
like your business, am I going to get exposed now?
Justin Colby
Like, I just go. But people can't afford homes.
John Curry
They can't.
Justin Colby
Like, I'm not even talking about interest rate. Go back to 4% interest rate. They shouldn't buy the home, John, because the roof is going to go. You know how much it just cost me to replace my roof? 40 grand. Ridiculous.
John Curry
Not that you paid more than you should have. That's what it costs.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
Yeah.
Justin Colby
And Johnny, I make 120 grand a year. Where are they going to, how are they going to deal with that?
John Curry
The average person is, you know, one repair away from destruction of their financial status. $10,000 air conditioner. Guess what? You think people plan for it? What's interesting about this is all the properties I own, I don't look at what the mortgage is, the tax and the insurance. I actually escrow extra money.
Justin Colby
Right.
John Curry
For the fact that I know that this building is going to need to be repainted every eight years.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
The air conditioner is going to last 12. The roof is going to last 20. And so I. Here's the problem. If the house costs you five grand a month.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
It costs you 6700.
Justin Colby
Hmm.
John Curry
If you're not putting 6700 aside.
Justin Colby
Facts.
John Curry
What's. When you need the roof for 40 grand?
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
If you do the 6700, you'll have the 40 grand.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
Or 80% of it.
Justin Colby
Enough where you can finance the rest or.
John Curry
Right.
Justin Colby
You have it. This is how people mismanage their money. And now we're going on.
John Curry
Yeah, we talk about that.
Justin Colby
But the reality is like, I love real estate. I will forever be in so will you. I just think people need to understand this type of stuff. Like you're going to be so affordable. Like everyone should be joining one call because you need to be able to maintain your home so that in hopes you actually don't ever have to deal with a call like, your AC just went out and I got to go buy it. But you can fix your AC every single year. And most people don't even realize they're supposed to. Right. They're supposed to go get it checked. Almost like an oil change.
John Curry
Why didn't tell you? Our service includes an annual AC check and all your filters.
Justin Colby
You know how many people don't know that? They don't even know.
John Curry
They don't know. Like, so we come in once a year and we, we check your, your system for the, you know, the, the pressures and all of the, the things that they need to look for, you know, make sure there's no leaks and, and all that. And we include the filters.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
I mean, you know how much money you save by just replacing your filter and cleaning your drain line, you know, every. Every couple months.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
Mean, so a lot of this stuff is preventative. And people who buy homes, they do not. They never got a book that said these are the things they need to do.
Justin Colby
That's right.
John Curry
You go from an apartment, all of a sudden you live the American dream. You own this house and guess what? You got handcuffs on because you don't know what to do.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
You can't move on your own. That's why you need somebody to help you. Yeah. And so where some people have consultant in their business, when you buy a home or a commercial building or something, we're basically that person for you. And we've, and we vetted, we vetted. We know what all the prices are. We, we know, you know, what. What should be repaired or what shouldn't be repaired or how things should be repaired. So we're excited, you know, to, to, to give people the opportunity to love their home again.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
But you're right. There are a, There is a variety. There, There's a, A mass amount of people. I should say that you probably should never buy a home.
Justin Colby
Home. Yeah. And if they do, they need to call. One call.
John Curry
There you go.
Justin Colby
That's right. So when. When are. So couple things. Contractors could reach out to you sooner than later to, to talk about what it would look like.
John Curry
Yeah. They. Well, contractors to be. Either be in our vendor list.
Justin Colby
Right.
John Curry
Or they could, you know, want to scale their business.
Justin Colby
Yeah. So where should they be reaching out to.
John Curry
They should be reaching out to.
Justin Colby
One call mgmt.com One call mgmt.com what is your socials for everyone to go
John Curry
John Curry, Instagram, Facebook, Tick tock, spell Curry. J O H N C U R R I.
Justin Colby
That's why I want to.
John Curry
It's Alan.
Justin Colby
It is. It is not Steph Curry.
John Curry
No.
Justin Colby
C U R R I Instagram, Tick tock, all the socials, everything, LinkedIn, everything. And then what would be like some parting words for, for you to talk to the audience of entrepreneurship, whether it be a newer entrepreneur, someone who's going through it right now and in the mud. Whether it be someone who's looking to scale and grow because these are the things you've gone through. What pieces of advice would you give to end the episode?
John Curry
If you're looking at buying an existing business, starting a business, you know, I think that you have to go to an outsider that is not connected with that business, do a survey and have the general public help you with a perspective on what you're about to do. You know, you don't need the buy in from everybody. But my problem is it was early in business is I had started in creating some business models that I thought were really, you know, tangible and they weren't. You know, the other thing I'll tell you is, is that there is a major problem that everybody knows in the service industry. I have bought and sold a few companies that were in the service, real estate, service industry, you know, electrical companies, window and door companies. Things where AI is not going to take.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
Away from those. Those are the businesses that you need to be looking at. Yeah. I think even though they sometimes are a little harder to run.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
Those are the ones that are going to withstand the test of time.
Justin Colby
Yeah. Because like you said in these home, like I need electrical, I need a roof. I. Yeah. And there's no AI coming.
John Curry
There's not, not for that stuff. And, and the, and the big thing is is that don't focus on the money side of it. You know, do exactly what, what you think you want to get involved in and what you love.
Justin Colby
Yeah.
John Curry
Because it's the, it's the age old saying, if you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life. I'm actually still looking for a job. I've never found one because I've never.
Justin Colby
There you go. That's right. Ladies and gentlemen, that is John Curry. I am Justin Colby. This has been the entrepreneur DNA. I appreciate your time here, brother.
John Curry
You got it, my man.
Justin Colby
If this was helpful or you think a couple people need to know. John Curry, make sure you share it with your friends. We'll see you on the next episode. Peace.
John Curry
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Guest: John Curri
Host: Justin Colby
Date: February 19, 2026
This episode of The Entrepreneur DNA dives deep into John Curri’s journey from launching a mall kiosk with $2,500 to building a 160-location franchise and later pivoting into real estate and service businesses. John reveals the true challenges of scaling, why inner drive beats initial capital, the humbling lessons of losing control, and his current mission to modernize home maintenance through his “One Call” property management business. Throughout, Justin and John keep it candid and personal, sharing practical takeaways for anyone wishing to break through entrepreneurial fear, scale quickly, or redefine what “winning” means.
Final Thought (John Curri, 40:52):
"If you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life. I'm actually still looking for a job. I've never found one because I've never..."
This episode is essential for any entrepreneur wrestling with fear, the myth of “needing money,” the true price of success, or looking for timeless business models in the age of AI.