From Jail to Jesus: Hope, Fire, and Resilience | Travis Hearn | EP 47

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Entrepreneur DNA - "From Jail to Jesus: Hope, Fire, and Resilience | Travis Hearn | EP 47"

Hosted by Justin Colby, Bleav

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Introduction

In Episode 47 of The Entrepreneur DNA, host Justin Colby engages in a profound conversation with Travis Hearn, also known as Pastor Trav. This episode delves deep into Travis's tumultuous journey from a troubled youth to a beacon of hope and resilience, offering invaluable insights for entrepreneurs and individuals seeking personal growth. Travis's story is a testament to the transformative power of faith, perseverance, and the support of a strong community.

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Travis Hearn's Early Life and Conversion to Faith

[02:46] Travis Hearn opens up about his challenging upbringing, marked by a broken family and exposure to substance abuse. Raised in Southern California and later moving to Arizona, his early life was anything but stable. He recounts, "I was the black sheep of church and pastors. I didn't grow up in church. I grew up around church but not really surrendered." His teenage years were tumultuous, leading to substance abuse and a DUI, which became the turning point in his life.

[04:12] Reflecting on his DUI arrest, Travis shares, "I went from jail to Jesus." This pivotal moment marked his conversion and commitment to faith, setting the foundation for his future endeavors. His candid admission reveals the depth of his struggles and the profound change that faith brought into his life.

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Building Impact Church and Counseling Athletes and Entrepreneurs

[06:21] Travis discusses the inception of Impact Church in Scottsdale, Arizona, initially starting as a Bible study group for Arizona Cardinals athletes. Over 23 years, it expanded to serve tens of thousands, including top-tier professional athletes and high-earning entrepreneurs. He emphasizes the crossover between athletic discipline and entrepreneurial resilience, stating, "Life is hard, man. Life is really, really hard."

[07:06] Highlighting the business aspect of church operations, Travis notes, "church is a business." He underscores the importance of financial stewardship and organizational growth, drawing parallels between running a church and managing a business. This perspective is particularly relevant for entrepreneurial listeners, emphasizing the balance between faith-driven missions and practical management.

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The Miracle of Overcoming a Stroke

[10:30] A turning point in Travis's narrative is his miraculous recovery from a severe stroke. On November 14, 2022, shortly after releasing a worship song that soared to number one on the iTunes charts, Travis experienced life-threatening health issues. He recounts the harrowing experience:

[12:25] "The miracle of the story is the miracle is because we, you know, he is the miracle." Despite initial signs of recovery, Travis's condition deteriorated, leading to a brain bleed with devastating effects.

[14:38] His wife, guided by faith, found solace in the Bible, specifically Acts 3:16, which speaks to miraculous healing. This unwavering belief played a crucial role in his recovery. Travis shares, "We went from, you know, we pick up my daughter, my wife and I at school, go to grocery store... and I started dropping grapes. That's weird." This metaphorical description underscores the severity of his stroke.

[15:57] The intervention of a paramedic from his own congregation, who recognized him, was pivotal. Despite medical odds, Travis defied expectations, emphasizing the power of faith and community support.

[17:05] Post-recovery, Travis underwent intensive rehabilitation, blending divine belief with relentless personal effort. "It's a combination of like, I believe divinity, but also like putting the work in." His resilience highlights the interplay between faith and personal responsibility.

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The Book "Fire is for You"

[10:32] Inspired by his experiences, Travis authored "Fire is for You," a book that encapsulates his journey through trials and triumphs. The title itself is a metaphor for the challenges entrepreneurs and individuals face.

[20:47] Travis explains, "We all go through fires in life, man. Sometimes it might be in your business... life is full of fires." He draws from biblical metaphors—storms, valleys, and fire—to illustrate life's hardships and the opportunities they present for growth and refinement.

[25:03] The book aims to provide hope, encapsulated in Travis's belief: "If you don't have hope, man, you don't have anything." He shares real-life stories that are both miraculous and relatable, offering strategies to navigate and overcome personal and professional challenges.

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The Power of Associations and People

[27:43] Transitioning to the importance of community, Travis emphasizes the influence of surrounding oneself with the right people. Referencing Proverbs, he warns against detrimental associations and advocates for building a network that uplifts and inspires.

[29:11] He advises, "People can make you or break you. They can pull you up, they can pull you down." This principle is crucial for entrepreneurs who thrive on collaboration and mentorship. Travis highlights the importance of intentional relationships in achieving sustained success.

[30:23] Travis reinforces the idea that individuals become the average of the people they surround themselves with, urging listeners to cultivate meaningful and supportive connections.

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Conclusion

Travis Hearn's journey from a troubled youth to a respected pastor and counselor is a powerful narrative of hope, resilience, and the transformative power of faith. His experiences, as shared in "Fire is for You," offer profound lessons for entrepreneurs and anyone facing personal challenges. The episode underscores the significance of community, the importance of maintaining hope, and the relentless pursuit of personal and professional growth despite life's inevitable "fires."

Notable Quotes:

• Travis Hearn [04:12]: "I went from jail to Jesus."
• Travis Hearn [31:20]: "If you don't have hope, man, you don't have anything."
• Travis Hearn [29:11]: "People can make you or break you. They can pull you up, they can pull you down."
• Pastor Trav [27:43]: "There will be fire, there will be storm, there will be valleys."

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Travis Hearn’s book, "Fire is for You," is available for pre-sale starting November 17th and will be accessible on major platforms like Amazon and Barnes & Noble from November. Listeners are encouraged to follow Travis on social media to stay updated on his impactful work.

Transcript

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[Travis Hearn]

Don'T have hope, man, you don't have anything. Hope. I need hope. Hope for my marriage. Hope for my child. Hope for this sickness, man. Somebody's diagnosed with cancer. I need, I need hope. Diagnosed with a life threatening. I need hope. My wife, I found out she cheated on me. I need some hope. My husband cheated on. I need hope. My child. What like so the book really is my hope is that it provides hope.

[Pastor Trav]

That's right.

[Travis Hearn]

And it's real life stories that are absolutely insane and hard to believe because they're not normal. I mean they are, they are miraculous.

[Pastor Trav]

What is up my entrepreneur DNA family? I am here with a very, very special guest. His name is Travis Hearn. He goes by Pastor Trav. He runs an organization with tens of thousands of individuals. He is the key consiglier, if you will, to the athletes and the nine figure entrepreneurs, the ten figure entrepreneurs. This man is dynamic at every sense of the word. Pastor Trav, what's up bro?

[Travis Hearn]

Hey, man, that's a great intro. Thank you for, for having me today.

[Pastor Trav]

Well, you're a great human, so let's get into it. Listen, you are the go to guy for a lot of athletes. I mean the names you can drop in the, in the teams that you can drop and what you've been able to accomplish at this phase of your life is incredible. But I know it wasn't always that way. Let's, let's just get everyone to the point of you've been able to build something. You have an organization, Impact Church there in Scottsdale, Arizona. Very familiar Our close friend Cody Sperber goes there. But I want to know about how you've been able to build this entire what I would almost call, like, an empire. Right. You are the go to coach for entrepreneurs, you are the go to coach for athletes. And then you make a massive impact on tens of thousands of individuals as a pastor. But let's start at the beginning. How did it all start for you?

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah, I think it's a great question to start with, because I'm probably the black sheep of church and pastors. I didn't grow up in church. I grew up around church and kind of, like I always say, surrounded but not really surrendered. My life was broken families, broken home. Uh, you know, my mother never had a father. Raised in Southern California, and then, you know, then her mother was raped and murdered when my mom was 13 years old. Then three years later, that. That moved my mother to Arizona to live with her only her grandmother, her only family member. Three years later, she's 16. She has me. So that's the start of me. Like, it's rough before it's rough, right? And so for me, I grew up, like, with drug addicts and alcoholism, and I didn't grow up in church.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah.

[Travis Hearn]

And so the end of my senior year in high school, you know, I. All through high school, partied and drank and smoked and basically tried to smoke whatever you could smoke. I smoke. I smoke a banana pill, I think, one time just to see if something would happen, you know, like, that. That's. That's. That's my history. That's who I am. And I got. I got a dui. I was beyond drunk. Got put in jail. And the same night, I. I say it like this. Like, I went from. I went from jail to Jesus, you know? And so I. To answer the question, I never really thought about pastoring a church. I was an athlete. I played basketball, football, baseball, quarterback, point guard, catcher, like, kind of the leader of all the sports and excelled in sports as a. As a child, you know, And. And, man, I. I just. I needed something, man. I was that guy. Look like you got it together on the outside.

[Pastor Trav]

Sure.

[Travis Hearn]

Like, look at this dude, man. He's, you know, all state this and that and blah, blah, blah. And it was like inside, I'm like, dude, I'm broken.

[Pastor Trav]

Sure.

[Travis Hearn]

And I think the nature of the story, I mean, I end up on the front page, you know, Hearn arrested for dui. Like that. That's who I am. Yeah. And so. So I just found something, man. I felt like I found something. That meant so much to me. For me, it was God. And I just said, man, I want to give this to the world. And so that story, hey, you became a Christian, you're not weren't a Christian, like dui, you know, you got arrested, jailed to Jesus, like, and then everybody would be like, hey, will you come share your story at youth group, at school, churches, at camps, whatever.

[Pastor Trav]

You gave me shivers thinking about how your mom's mom and then your mom having you at 16, you just go, I have a story. It's nothing like, not as dark as that is, frankly.

[Travis Hearn]

Right.

[Pastor Trav]

Everyone has a story.

[Travis Hearn]

Yes.

[Pastor Trav]

But you know, one thing you, you said that actually triggers this next coming question, which is, do you see with all the counseling that you do for the high figure earners in entrepreneurship to the top tier professional sports, whether it's football and baseball and everyone that you counsel, do you see to some extent, some of the highest level performers have some level of a story underneath it?

[Travis Hearn]

No question. I mean, absolutely no question.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah.

[Travis Hearn]

And I think for me, so I started, I started working with pro athletes 23 years ago.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah.

[Travis Hearn]

From the NFL to MLB to NBA, still do. Our church started as a Bible study for the Arizona Cardinals. That was the, the, the beginning. In a house like a few athletes and then eventually open it up to the public. Our Bible study was called Impact Pro Athletes and eventually open it to the world and it's Impact Church. But yeah, I mean, you know, I, I'll say this. 23 years ago, when I started, I, I, I probably like anybody else, I'm star struck.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah.

[Travis Hearn]

Like 23 years ago, I'm walking down the hallway of the Phoenix Suns Arena. You know, we were playing the Lakers and I'm like, dude, that's Kobe, that's Shaq. Like, those are some big names and Shaq's a big dude, you know, and such a good dude. But, and then within, man, maybe the, the way it works in the NBA is we have chapel before every game. So both teams are invited. Yeah. So say sons, Lakers, sons, Golden State, whatever. So the, the teams come together, there's a room. Every team does it, Every league does it. The NFL does it, NBA does it. MLB does it. Which, how about that? That's interesting because we think of NBA and MLB and NFL as like athletes, wnba and they are. That's a business. Oh, it's all, it's a business. Right?

[Pastor Trav]

It's a business.

[Travis Hearn]

And church is a business. No doubt. I mean, there, there's a, there's a stewardship of money and finances and Growth and things that you have to. Employment, you have to pay people and.

[Pastor Trav]

Make money to pay people.

[Cody Sperber]

Of course.

[Pastor Trav]

I mean, you can't have the growth that you guys had without revenue.

[Travis Hearn]

Right?

[Pastor Trav]

I mean, it just doesn't work.

[Travis Hearn]

No doubt, no doubt. And, and being smart about it and being, you know, but, but going back to your question, you know, for me, the starstruck went away in a hurry because one day after chapel, this well known athlete, you know, he stayed around and he was, he started to cry. I mean, bro, we even play basketball in 45 minutes. It's almost game time. And he, you know, big seven footer, he's crying and he's like, bro, I need help. Yeah. And I'm like, what's going on? And he's like, hey, man, man, I. I'm married. I got Achilles. I got another woman pregnant while I was on the road. And like, I'm like, he's like, can you help? And I'm like, he said, he said this. I don't know what to do. And I'm thinking, I know what you shouldn't have done.

[Pastor Trav]

You already did.

[Travis Hearn]

You shouldn't have done her.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah, that's right.

[Travis Hearn]

But, but you know that, that's the thing is like whether it's celebrities, whether it's big earners, whatever, they're people, man. And you cut somebody, they bleed, they hurt. Mistakes, they, they make, we all do. We all make mistakes. And I mean, I think that's where I come from is just like, I'm still making mistakes every single. It had to be you.

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[Travis Hearn]

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[Travis Hearn]

Oh, this is your song. Wish I was singing.

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[Travis Hearn]

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[Travis Hearn]

I feel like I've found some answers in life and so try to give them away. That's right.

[Pastor Trav]

Well, speaking of a game and way, let's. Let's get to what I'm excited about. You have a book coming out, dude.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah.

[Pastor Trav]

This is going to be fire.

[Travis Hearn]

Yes.

[Pastor Trav]

Pun intended. Let's talk about the book.

[Travis Hearn]

Right. Well, the book is titled the Fire is for you. And it and it really comes from I wasn't going to write a book, but I went through hell and back. And so two years ago, November 14th of 2022, this is the crazy, craziest story. I'm in great health. This is two years ago, I had a stroke. I had a brain aneurysm, a brain bleed. And to give you the background, our church had just we started getting into the music space. So impact worship, Impact music and releasing songs. And the first song we ever released to the world, it was called he is the Miracle. That was on Friday, November 11th of 22. It's called he is the Mirror. This is crazy. I mean this is crazy crazy. Next level crazy is we released this song. We've never done it before. First song we wrote, recorded, produced, goes on to all music platforms. Right. So on Sunday to theme with that, I Preached a sermon titled he is the miracle. And I opened my remarks with, hey, I believe God still does modern day miracles. Like, he's still. He's still the God of the Bible. And. And. And on Sunday, our. On Friday, Saturday, Sunday, our song started to chart on the itunes charts. Which. Which is crazy. Like, we. We didn't expect that.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah.

[Travis Hearn]

And we've never done this before. Right. So it charts and it gets into the top 100, and then it gets into the top 75, 50, you know, 10. Dude, it went all the way to number one. So on Sunday, it went all the way to number one. It's awesome. We screenshot it having. I'm gonna win a Grammy or like a. You know. But, like, that was pretty cool, man. Like, first time we ever did something. And then Monday, I needed the very miracle that I just preached about and that we sang about. And so I was. We stopped by the church, man, I don't know if you're ready for this, because this is. This is wild. This story.

[Pastor Trav]

Getting shivers when I tell people there's people that you meet that give you that feeling.

[Travis Hearn]

Right.

[Pastor Trav]

Whether it's you're dating someone or whatever the case. But, like, right now, Pastor Trav, like, I've known him all of 30 minutes. Yeah, bro, he's already given. Like, this is the real dude. If you don't know, get his book when this drops. Because I'm getting shivers already from all this stuff that's going on. Go ahead.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah, this. This is crazy. I take no credit. This is just. This is. Whether you believe in God or don't believe in God, I'm not here to talk about that other than I do, and I believe this was a God thing. So. So we. We go from, you know, we. We pick up my daughter, my wife and I at School at 3. At 3pm from school, we go to the church office. And church. It's a big place. We're in my office, and me and my daughter Jazzy, she's 12 at the time, we're gonna go to the grocery store to Target, actually, and Natalie's gonna stay my wife and do some work. And I had a handful of grapes and. And I started dropping like, a grape every now and then. I'm like, that's weird. I'm dropping grapes. But that morning we did cold plunges and ice up. So I just thought something. Yeah. Residual from that. I'm like, that's weird. And so, dude, we drive. I'm having a stroke. I have no idea. We drive to Target, and I Text my wife when we get there. And I said, hey, I've dropped, like, five grapes. That's weird. She calls me dude in an absolute panic. Travis, please stay in your car. I'm coming to get you. I'm coming to get you. And I'm like, babe, I'm dropping grapes. Like, I'm good. My head didn't hurt. My vision was good. My face wasn't droopy. My speech. And she goes, read back what you sent me. Because I said, I'm dropping grapes. Read. She goes, read back what you sent me. And it was more like, I'm draping grops. But I. I didn't know that. Right? So I'm. I'm re. I'm reading back, and she's like, I'm coming to get you. So she comes and picks me up. She takes me to the house, and she's begging me to call 91 1. And I'm like, babe, like, we're men. Like, I'm not calling 9. Like, I'm not.

[Pastor Trav]

I don't need a doctor.

[Travis Hearn]

Like, I dropped some grapes, man. You know? Yeah. And then I dropped my cell phone a few times, and so she's in a panic. I said, babe, I must sleep for an hour. That's it. And if I still feel weird, maybe I'll go.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah.

[Travis Hearn]

She's like, please don't go to bed. Please, please, please. I laid down, man, for five minutes. And I'm like, no, no, something's not. Something's definitely not right.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah.

[Travis Hearn]

So right at that same time, she came in, and she's like, please. I said, okay, let. Let's. Let's call bro. We call 91 1. I'm not thinking stroke. This isn't in my head at all. Natalie goes around the hallway, and she goes, I think my husband's having a stroke. And then I'm like, yo, what? Like, in my head, I'm like, this woman, she's. She's. She's crazy.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah.

[Travis Hearn]

Like, so the paramedics go, well, if. If you think that, lay him down on his back when I tell you. They arrived at my house in three minutes. They arrived at my house in three.

[Pastor Trav]

Which is great to hear.

[Travis Hearn]

Right? Three minutes.

[Pastor Trav]

That's all.

[Travis Hearn]

Three minutes. Yeah. So I got four paramedics. I'm laying on my back, and I checked out. They do a stroke test. You know, they do every test. They have an actual stroke test. They did a stroke test. I passed. Everything's fine. Natalie's still begging me to go. Now she's begging them Please tell him to go. So I'm laying on my back, and I looked up at one of the firefighters. His name was Ryan. And I go, bro, what do you think I should do? And he goes, pastor, as a member of your congregation, I think you should go, bro. I had no idea who this guy was. I've never seen him in my life. Yeah, he got the call. He didn't know he was coming into his pastor's house.

[Pastor Trav]

Sure.

[Travis Hearn]

He didn't know until he saw me.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah.

[Travis Hearn]

He walked in, saw the beard, and I had a Phoenix Suns hoodie on. And he was like, whoa, that, like, that's my pat. We'd never even met before. And so I'm getting stretcher. I said, okay, let's go. I get stretchered out. I waved to Natalie and Jazzy, and I go, it's okay. I'll be right back. Dad's gonna get, you know, checked out.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah.

[Travis Hearn]

The hospital's four minute drive.

[Pastor Trav]

Okay.

[Travis Hearn]

They do a brain scan, and my brain's bleeding badly. Like, aggressively. Yeah. And. And they call my wife. And then they had to helicopter me to a different. A level one trauma center. Yeah. Because they don't have it that specialize in neurology and. And hemorrhagic strokes. And the thing about mine is, so it would. Your brain can. You know, it could bleed from anywhere. Right. And certain things affect. If it bleeds here, it might affect your speech. If it bleeds here, it might affect your memory or whatever. Mine was in the brainstem, so it affect everything. They said it's the worst. It's the worst stroke you could have. It's the worst imaginable. When I went from. Guys, I'll be okay. I'm going to go get checked to load it onto the ambulance. I don't remember anything.

[Pastor Trav]

Nothing.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah, I don't remember the ambulance ride over, the scan. The hell. I mean, I remember, like, you know.

[Pastor Trav]

Like, that's probably the power of being a dad, though.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah.

[Pastor Trav]

You won't let yourself go until finally you get in the ambulance and you can surrender. Go. And then your body shuts down. I mean, it happens. So, like, my example would be my mom. He literally stayed alive until I could say goodbye.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah. Right, bro.

[Pastor Trav]

But that's the power of what a body can do.

[Travis Hearn]

And. Yeah, man.

[Pastor Trav]

So you probably finally surrendered and then you blacked out or whatever you may have done.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah. Yeah. And. And so I. I lost my speech, I lost my memory, I lost my cognition, I lost my motor skills. I'm hospitalized and laid up in a Hospital bed. And you know, they, they, they, they come the way they do a stroke, the way they manage your progress or not is they, they come in every hour on the hour and they do this series of tests and hey, what's your name? What's your date of birth? What year is it? What day is it? Who's your wife? Who's your kids? It's that over and over. Touch your nose. And I, I mean, I'm like gibberish. Yeah. And I'm, you know, trying to touch my nose and I can't. And. Lift your leg. And I, I can't lift my leg. And, and while I was hospitalized, I don't know, the second day, maybe third day, the, the doctor told my wife, hey, we want to prepare you because the effects of this particular stroke, they're irreversible. So they're telling her this, this is, this is your husband? This is your new husband? Yeah, like he's a vegetable. Right. Interesting. And so my wife is a woman of faith and she, she's not gonna buy that. She, I mean, we love doctors and believe in doctors and science and medicine, but she went straight to the Bible and, and she didn't know what she was looking for, but she needed something to hold on to her. And she went to this verse in the book of Acts, chapter three, 16. And I'm just going to summarize it because I don't actually know it by heart, but it's like by faith. This man whom you see is completely healed in Jesus name. So she just grabbed that. Of course, I mean, like, it's the first thing you see after the doctor says this. Like, that's like, okay, man, I'm holding on to this. And dude, the miracle of the story is the miracle is because we, you know, he is the miracle. What we've been singing about, preaching about teaching, about believing about is that God began to rapidly heal me. Rapidly. So rapid that it went from the effects are irreversible to. I got out on Friday. So I was hospitalized Monday. I got out Friday evening.

[Pastor Trav]

Wow.

[Travis Hearn]

And so, yeah, so, man, I, you know, I then went into rehab. I mean, it's also, it's a combination of like, I believe divinity, but also like putting the work in. So rehab and therapy. I was doing six, six therapy sessions, six days a week. I mean, all day. It was a full time job. Yeah, I'm not, you know, leading my church, preaching at my church. I've got other people coming in and doing it and managing it and holding it down and, and and, man, it. It changed my life. And so I. I wrote a book. There's an entire book about it. The Fire is for you. And I think that's a great title because one of the chapters is called the fire is for you. Right. But if you think about. We all go through fires in life, man. Sometimes it might be in your business. Like, man, it feels like we're putting out fires all the time. Employment issues. Putting out fires all the time. Yeah. You know, all those different fires in life. Your marriage, your girlfriend, your boyfriend, your child. Like, there's just, like, life is full of fires, man. Totally fires. And. And the Bible uses three metaphors for. For trial. Okay. It uses storms. I'm going through a storm, man. Like, life is raining down on me. It uses valleys. That's a famous one. Like Psalm 23.

[Pastor Trav]

Valleys.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah. And we walk through the valley of the shadow of death, right? And that's like the low place. The low places in life. And then the fire, you know, is another metaphor. And the fires are like, man, dude, there's this pressure. I'm gonna get burned up, man. Like, I'm gonna be left in the ashes. And.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah.

[Travis Hearn]

And I think so many times in life we try to curse the fire, right? And. And so the idea is that, like, with God, there are never any wildfires, only controlled fires. And certain scriptures talk about, you know, and there's. I know a lot of your listeners, they might even be in God or church. It doesn't matter, because it still relates. We can still feel. This business has fire, bro. Like, certain. Certain. You know, the Bible talks about how the fire is there to purify you. Right? It's. It's there to refine you.

[Pastor Trav]

Yeah.

[Travis Hearn]

And so the. For you and. And. And trials and. And I'll end this little story with this. This part of the story is when. When it was Wednesday, I was h. Hospitalized. You know, Monday, when it was Wednesday, they're doing that test on me, you know, what's your. You know, what day is it? What's your name? You know, I can't talk.

[Pastor Trav]

Right.

[Travis Hearn]

And then they said, what's your children's names?

[Pastor Trav]

You knew them immediately?

[Travis Hearn]

No, I have three kids. Kylie, Josiah and Jaslyn. After I said 40, and then I knew, bro. Something I knew. It was like. It's like right before blackout drunk. That's what it feel. That's what it felt like. Like you're like, you're about to be blacked out, but you can still.

[Pastor Trav]

I didn't know that feeling.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah, me too.

[Pastor Trav]

I'D be lying.

[Travis Hearn]

Me too. Yeah, me too. I'd be lying as well. And. But it's right. It's like you can kind and like I knew. This isn't good. This isn't good. This isn't good. I looked at my wife after I said 40, I looked at her, she's standing by my hospital bed. And I said, and I was crying and I said, count. I said, count it all joy. Plain as day. Count it all joy. And the doctor goes, what he just say? And Natalie said, he said, count it all joy. Which is a Bible verse from the book of James, chapter one that says count it all joy. When you fall into various trials knowing that your faith and your perseverance, it's tested, but it's making you mature and complete, like the fire is for you. That's incredible, dude. I can't remember what day. I can't remember my own name, my kids names, Natalie's names. I don't know. I don't know anything. But something deep down inside I was able to pull out a part of a scripture in context of what was happening. Counted all Joy. So chapter one's Counted all Joy. That was almost a book title, but end up being the first story.

[Pastor Trav]

It's still been a good book title. But I would tell you this is super relatable, everyone. Like this is a lot of entrepreneurs listening to this, but everything you're talking about is relatable. Whether it's a medical actual situation. But even if you brought it over to business, there's no business in this planet. That is puppy dogs and rainbows and everyone prints money and they shit gold all the time. Doesn't happen. Right, Right.

[Travis Hearn]

Right.

[Pastor Trav]

And so if you're out there listening this or watching this, I want you to be very clear. We're here talking about this man's life's work. But it's relatable to you because of what you're saying. There will be fire, there will be storm, there will be valleys.

[Travis Hearn]

Yes.

[Pastor Trav]

And it is the people that persist through that.

[Travis Hearn]

Yes.

[Pastor Trav]

Just like you did with your medical scenario, that actually come out on top over time.

[Travis Hearn]

Yes.

[Pastor Trav]

Myself, I know our friend Sperber talks about this all the time. The longevity is because we keep going in spite of the failures.

[Travis Hearn]

Yes.

[Pastor Trav]

Same idea.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah.

[Pastor Trav]

Whether it's medical, whether it's a family scenario, whether it's a husband, a wife, whether it's.

[Travis Hearn]

It's.

[Pastor Trav]

There's fire.

[Travis Hearn]

Yes. And. And it's hot.

[Pastor Trav]

And you get to make a choice.

[Travis Hearn]

Yes. Yeah.

[Pastor Trav]

But it is a genuine choice. You get to look in the mirror and say, am I going to fight the fight or do I give up and passively live the rest of my life?

[Travis Hearn]

Right. And it's more and it's worth the fight every time. I'll outlive the fire, outlive the trial, out the problem, outlive the critic, outlive the naysayer. Like I love that. Keep freaking going every time. Yeah.

[Pastor Trav]

And this is, you know, there's so many angles you and I could go in at, right?

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah.

[Pastor Trav]

But I think what is really important for the people to know is the word of what you're able to give to so many people, not just within your church, but think about the impact you're making with all the athletes.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah.

[Pastor Trav]

The high level entrepreneurs that you make such a massive impact on.

[Travis Hearn]

Right.

[Pastor Trav]

I mean, you are a highly sought after individual in a general sense. But one thing I want to get your take on, I'm a firm believer. I just had the blessing to speak at Clever Summit and because of the timing, what I was going to talk about did not have.

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[Travis Hearn]

Next.

[Unknown Speaker D]

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[Travis Hearn]

Yep, that'd be the coffee.

[Unknown Speaker D]

I know. It's just I've had nasal polyps for so long now. I'm on this medicine and my congestion and breathing are much better.

[Unknown Speaker F]

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[Unknown Speaker D]

I'm pretty jazzed about it. Plus, I don't want another surgery and now I might not need one.

[Travis Hearn]

So what can I get you?

[Unknown Speaker D]

Medium coffee, please.

[Unknown Speaker F]

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[Unknown Speaker D]

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[Unknown Speaker F]

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[Pastor Trav]

But what I was going to talk about is the power of people. Talk about the power of people in your life because I firmly believe you will be richer, emotionally, psychologically, financially and go bigger, higher and better if you understand the power of the people that you're surrounded by, who you can network with. Yeah, talk a little bit about.

[Travis Hearn]

Great. Okay, so think about this. The book of Proverbs is 31 chapters, okay? Proverbs is. It's called a wisdom book. One of The Wisdom Books, 31 chapters written by King Solomon. King Solomon is considered the wisest person who's ever lived. Okay? So in Proverbs, it talks about 16 types of friends associations that you should not be around. Now, church people are like, I thought you're supposed to love everybody and be. You are. But, but think about it like this. For, for every one of us, we have two types of friends, two types of business colleagues, two types of business partners or whatever. Associations, okay? One, one type is that they're a cat. There, there's, there's casual friends and there's close friends. There's casual business connections, and there's close ones, right? So the casual ones are a result of circumstance. You're on my football team. You're, you know, you're on my sports team.

[Pastor Trav]

You're in my gym.

[Travis Hearn]

Bros. Gym, bro, you happen to work out at the same gym that I do. So, like, you're a casual friend. Casual friends are a result of circumstance. Okay, okay. And then we all have close friends. And close friends are a result of choice. So Proverbs talks about 16 types of friends to not be close friends with lazy people. That's what it said. I mean, one of the. One of like lazy people, you know.

[Pastor Trav]

Because who gravitates to lazy people? Like, I don't want to labor the point, but, like, you will not see you. And by the way, your pastor is so respectful. Like, no, you won't see me with lazy people. You won't see Sperber with lazy people. Like, yeah, just. We don't. Like, we don't know what to say.

[Travis Hearn]

People getting after it, lighting the world on fire. Like minded. And you want people, if you can, that can pull you up. Not that where you're pulling everybody else up. If you can get a seat at the table. If you can get a seat at the table, whatever table. That. Even, Even if you got to buy the seat at the table for a while, dude, buy it. Get in the room every year. Yeah, every year.

[Pastor Trav]

To be at tables that are way larger than I could ever get. Just shaking hands on your own.

[Travis Hearn]

No doubt. No doubt. And there's value in that. And I think there's so much. You're talking about people, right? And the power of people, man. People. People can make you or break you. They can pull you up, they can pull you down, they can make you better, they can make you worse, they can make you lazy or they can make you work hard. People are contagious. And so. And not only about the people that were around, but. But the person that you are. Like, who are you? Yeah, like you. You become the person that you want to be around. And then the people you want to be around, they want to appear. They want to be around you.

[Pastor Trav]

That's right.

[Travis Hearn]

Exactly.

[Pastor Trav]

Dude. This has been. I mean, just because we have a short amount of time, I want to get to the meat and potatoes.

[Travis Hearn]

Yep.

[Pastor Trav]

This book is going to change hundreds of thousands of people's lives, if not millions. Yeah, let's. The fastest we can describe really the entirety of this book as best you probably can.

[Travis Hearn]

So one thing I've noticed about humanity in life, it doesn't matter if you make a lot, make a little. If you have a business or you don't have a business or you have 50 businesses, whether you're a high school athlete or a pro athlete, whether you're a pro athlete or you're, you know, a Hall of Famer, is that. Is that life is hard? Life is hard, man. Life is really, really.

[Pastor Trav]

And it keeps coming at you.

[Travis Hearn]

Keeps coming. It never stops throwing blows. And I was interviewed by the LA Tribune about the book a few weeks back, and they said, if there's one. One thing you would want people to get out of this book, what would it be? And I said, hope.

[Pastor Trav]

I love that.

[Travis Hearn]

Because if you don't have hope, man. You don't have anything. Hope. I need hope. Hope for my marriage, hope for my child. Hope for this sickness, man. Somebody's diagnosed with cancer. I need, I need hope. Diagnosed with the life threatening. I need hope. My wife, I found out she cheated on me. I need some hope. My husband cheated. I need hope. My child. What? Like, so the, the book really is my. My hope is that it provides hope.

[Pastor Trav]

That's right.

[Travis Hearn]

And it's real life stories that are absolutely insane and hard to believe because they're not normal. I mean, they are. They are mor. Miraculous. So the, the book is really chopped up.

[Pastor Trav]

You're not normal, dude.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah.

[Pastor Trav]

And I say that in the very best way. Think about your childhood. Think about how you're raised. Think about what you've overcome. Think about you are the go to guy for how many athletes. You're the go to guy for tens of thousands of people in the Phoenix area. Like, that's. You're not normal.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Pastor Trav]

To the best of the degree.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah. Right, man. I'm, I'm, I'm privileged. And, and that's right. I'm, I'm, you know, I'm fortunate. I'm blessed. I, I take it serious. I. I try to honor God and honor people as best I can, but, you know, the reality is, is that I'm trying to do my part in a really big world. And hopefully, hopefully this book, the Fire is for you. We're really making an impact on people's lives because that's the whole point.

[Pastor Trav]

And it's going to be everywhere, right? Anywhere that it can, obviously, but everywhere else. Fire is for you. Coming out November.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah. The Pre sale drops November 17th. Let's come. And that's, that's the big date. It'll be on Amazon, Barnes. And it'll be everywhere. It'll be everywhere. You can buy a book. It'll be there.

[Pastor Trav]

I love that.

[Travis Hearn]

Yeah.

[Pastor Trav]

Everyone, this is Travis Hearn, Pastor Trav, and now a good friend of mine. Make sure you follow him, make sure you grab that book and make sure you stay tuned to everything he does on social media because he makes a massive impact. Pun intended.

[Travis Hearn]

Pun intended. That was a good one.

[Pastor Trav]

All right, y'all, that is the end of the entrepreneur DNA. Stay tuned for the next episode. And if you like this just a little bit and you like Travis Hearn, make sure you share it with two people. Peace.

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[Unknown Speaker D]

Hey, it smells so good in here.

[Travis Hearn]

Yep, that'd be the coffee.

[Unknown Speaker D]

I know. It's just I've had nasal polyps for so long now I'm on this medicine and my congestion and breathing are much better.

[Unknown Speaker F]

Dupixent Dupilumab is an add on prescription maintenance treatment for uncontrolled chronic rhinosinusitis with nasal polyps in adults and children 12 years and up. It can help shrink your nasal polyps so you can breathe better with less congestion.

[Unknown Speaker D]

I'm pretty jazzed about it. Plus, I don't want another surgery and now I might not need one.

[Unknown Speaker F]

So what can I get you?

[Unknown Speaker D]

Oh, medium coffee, please.

[Unknown Speaker F]

Severe allergic reactions can occur. Get help right away for face, mouth, tongue or throat swelling, wheezing or trouble breathing. Tell your doctor right away of signs of inflamed blood vessels like rash, chest pain, worsening, shortness of breath, tingling or numbness in limbs. Tell your doctor of new or worsening eye problems like eye pain or vision changes, joint aches and pain, or a parasitic infection or asthma. Don't change or stop steroid asthma or other treatments without talking to your doctor.

[Unknown Speaker D]

Do more with less nasal polyps. Ask your doctor about DUPIXENT.

[Unknown Speaker F]

Learn more at DUPIXENT.com or call 1844 DUPIXENT.

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[Travis Hearn]

No one wants to think about HIV, but there are things that everyone can.

[Cody Sperber]

Do to help prevent it.

[Unknown Speaker D]

Things like prep.

[Travis Hearn]

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[Pastor Trav]

Other healthy sex practices.

[Travis Hearn]

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