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No One Is Coming to Save You: The Brutal Truth About Success | Aaron & Eric Chapman
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Justin Colby
Entrepreneur DNA. You will not want to miss this episode. We got a book alert. New book coming out this upcoming year. I have the author, I have the illustrator. They happen to be brothers. Previous guest Aaron Chapman and his brother Eric Chapman are here. The illustrator is Eric. The author is Aaron. He's been known for over two decades as the real estate investment financial expert and now he is coming out with Redneck Economics.
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Aaron Chapman
Redneck Economics.
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Justin Colby
You got Redneck Economics. So this is going to be a great book coming out when January 13th.
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Aaron Chapman
Is the actual release date. You'll be able to get a Barnes and Noble Amazon or you can go to quitjerkinoff.com preorder it and be able to order directly from me.
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Justin Colby
So and that is not a joke. So we're all clear. That's actually where you can go check it out on all the different whether it's Amazon etc or quitjerking off.com and you can go ahead and order it. Talk to me about the book. Where did it come from? You come from. Everyone knows you. You're a well known entity is a personality in the real estate space in the real estate financial space. The real estate finances space.
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Aaron Chapman
Although investment space.
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Justin Colby
All of that.
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Aaron Chapman
All those things necessarily.
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Justin Colby
Financial book.
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Aaron Chapman
It is. Not everybody's got a financial book. Right. But then there's a lot of self help books. But certain things resonate with certain people.
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Justin Colby
Yeah.
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Aaron Chapman
And I didn't intend to write that to begin with. It really just boiled down to I had written other things for the sake of my kids. I wanted to pass off. We published and they did a little bit of something. You can actually download those ebooks from the website as you're going through it with the code.
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Justin Colby
What website is that again?
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Aaron Chapman
Quitjerking off dot com.
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Justin Colby
Perfect.
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Aaron Chapman
Nailed it. Exactly.
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Justin Colby
I think, I believe that's a real thing.
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Aaron Chapman
Yes, it is. It is a real thing. Do you guys need to freaking quit? Seriously. In all aspects of it. It's not just all with it. It's literal and figurative in many ways. And we do talk about that within the book because ultimately life is a nasty and it just is. And if you're gonna be an entrepreneur and a successful entrepreneur, you can't. The big problem I see with a lot of people look around seeing the people getting done. Like, oh, that guy had an edge or he's lucky or he must something that happens. Like no guys. He just knows how to take the beating. Yeah, they are some tough. Some bitches to get things done. Nothing makes me more frustrated than hearing somebody say it must be nice. Like some bitch. You have no idea what I went through to get there. You have no clue what it is. And when people tell you that, oh, there's a. There's a certain race that has an advantage.
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Justin Colby
Really.
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Aaron Chapman
Do you know some wake up in a hospital bed without a memory and they can't walk. Everything is shattered and have to start over at A. Not just zero. Negative 1.5 million and start over. No. So I can't. Nobody can ever tell me that I deserve something or it must be nice because deserve is also a bullshit word in my opinion. I don't deserve anything. I don't deserve a freaking thing. I had to earn everything. You told me I deserved what I got. You cheapened every single bit of effort I ever put out.
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Justin Colby
You know, so the. The chapters in and of themselves are just great. They're titled Great ass beating 1, ass beating 2, ass beating 3, 4, 5. There's literally 13 ass beatings in this. You can't make it up.
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Aaron Chapman
They all have their own title, but they are an ass subtitle.
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Justin Colby
Right? Suck it up and put a bandage on it was One that just. I drew me to it because again, I've been talking a lot in my own world about things aren't easy, but they're simple. They are actually hard. But there are simple to do. And as easy as you've titled these, that's the reality of life. It is hard to suck it up and put a bandage on and keep moving forward. But that's the answer. It's easy. You have one answer. There's not, it's not a mathematical equation here.
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Aaron Chapman
Yeah. Sometimes you want to lay in bed and lament in your problem, but nothing happens. I can't do that. I don't know what it is I hear about people. It's like I just. They just lock themselves up in the room and they, they. They go into this, this fit of despair. I'm like, I can't do. I gotta move.
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Justin Colby
Yeah.
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Aaron Chapman
I have to be moving around. When I start getting in my head about something, I can't sit still. I have to go do something. So you gotta figure out when you're in that situation and things are going to shit. It's okay. I need to move. I need to be doing something and they need to concentrate on what is that thing. It has to be productive.
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Justin Colby
Yeah.
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Aaron Chapman
And maybe I'm just wired a little bit different. I had to be wired a certain way over time. But you can wire yourself that way. I mean, Joe Dispenza says you can completely rewire your brain.
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Justin Colby
I was just gonna say that you can absolutely. I mean, think about just the military. And we don't have to go into the military, but like, you create people who are like, oh, I'm a night owl and all this other stuff. Well, the military is made up of all different type of people. And some of them were night owls, but they damn sure now go to bed early and wake up early. You rewire it. It's. It's not again hard. Choose your hard. But it is simple, right? So let's talk about this dynamic here. We got brothers, we got the author, we have the illustrator. How did this all come about? Was this like a planned out, hey, bro, let's do this cool thing together, bro.
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Eric Chapman
Or he comes up to me is like, hey man, I'm writing a book. I want you to illustrate it. And I'm thinking to myself, first of all, I'm a fine art painter. You know, oil paintings, nice, whatever stuff. And I know when my brother has an idea, like you've heard, quit jerking off and all this stuff, it's going to be something's Going to be wild about it, and I'm not sure if it's going to jive with me. And I was like, I don't know, man. I don't know. But as I started reading it, I'm like, you know, this might be the way to go. But there were hurdles. I mean, try to imagine, trying to illustrate. First of all, you don't illustrate a book like this to begin with. But second, imagine he says, okay, the chapter is, put your helmet on, take your blue pills. What is it?
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Aaron Chapman
What?
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Eric Chapman
Say it was it. Take your blue pills.
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Aaron Chapman
Put a helmet on. A helmet on. Take your blue pills. Screwing's coming.
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Justin Colby
Take your blue pills and put a helmet on. A screwing is coming.
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Eric Chapman
Yeah, illustrate that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, quit jerking off.
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Aaron Chapman
Illustrate that.
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Justin Colby
By the way, I'm going to that.
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Aaron Chapman
Page 115, because ultimately, what it is, is.
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Justin Colby
I want to see what you illustrated on that.
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Aaron Chapman
Each chapter has its own painting to describe the chapter. So he'd read a chapter and then he'd go all the way back. Like illuminated manuscripts of the 1300s.
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Justin Colby
The illustration for all of you.
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Aaron Chapman
And there are blue pearls there, right there at the very bottom.
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Eric Chapman
Yeah. We decided on an illuminated manuscript. A medieval era, sort of. Because, I mean, these were texts they used for, you know, holy writ and whatnot. I found there was a lot of humorous things in them. I thought, what's. Let's use that. It's kind of like having a silly.
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Aaron Chapman
Go with this and redneck it up.
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Justin Colby
It is beautiful, right? I mean, coming from someone that literally can't draw a stick figure, this is rather than beautiful. Impressive. I mean, just the nuance of, like, you know, I don't know if you guys are gonna be able to see all these. And I would tell you, you'll buy the book. But, like, even right before the scriptures, there's the bomb going off. There's such subtle nuances of all these different things. I think this is brilliant.
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Aaron Chapman
And it's all in the subtlety of what, to me, is what's so unbelievable. When I talk to him, we sit down, talk about some of these paints. We get the originals out. He'll start telling me things he did. I'm like, holy shit. I didn't even see that. Because he would read it and pull out little tiny details and inject that into the image. Yeah. And it's unbelievable. Yeah.
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Eric Chapman
I read it twice, trying to just extract all the imagery I could from it and not even really taking the book in for what it was, just looking at it. From an image standpoint. And there were so many things that's peppered with, you know, it's pretty incredible. And it's kind of a history lesson too, because I have hidden all kinds of artistic things. So if you're an art lover, you might see something. Oh, yeah, that's from the Ghent altar piece. Or, hey, there's some Calvin and Hobbes. Or there's, you know, and then there's personal stuff in there too. Like, the forward has this bookcase. And there's a lot of stuff in that bookcase that mean things to me and mean things to him. Yeah, I. I'm like, hey, dude, I just plotted your life, every place you've ever lived in this bookcase. He had no idea, you know, So I love it.
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Justin Colby
I mean, I just flipped to a random page and I ended up reading this. This is a great. You guys, what this is. Yeah, this is great. So there is an image, and I don't know if you guys can all see it, but there is a bottle of Jim Beam bourbon. There is a razor blade, there's duct tape, a lighter, two Magnum condoms. Magnum, because it's a gold wrapper, obviously, and a manual. And they. Basically, the quote you gave was, we are going to get these loans done with one of these things. You choose which one?
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Aaron Chapman
Pretty much.
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Justin Colby
So, again, I mean, this guy. This is incredible. And. And what I love about it is the story that it tells not just through your own life, but through. Through the art. I mean, it is just phenomenal.
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Aaron Chapman
I think it. Worst case scenario, guys. And I put it all over in the book. Constantly, over and over. If you don't like what you're reading, throw the sun bitch away. The only reason I'd say you keep it, because there's well over a hundred thousand dollars in art there that you get to hold in your hand.
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Justin Colby
Well, no, I. Listen, the more and more I get to know you, they need to read it because literally, the subtitle, Unconventional success taken by. Taken the beaten path.
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Aaron Chapman
Like, and it's a different beating because everybody. Because all my editors, like, wait a minute, that's spelled wrong. It's like, no, it's not.
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Justin Colby
Read the book. It is the right way.
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Aaron Chapman
Because the beaten path is not the path that's building mostly worn. It's the path that throws you the beaten. Every day you got to walk into that beating constantly. Every chapter is designed to give you the tools that you need to be ready to not only just take a beating, but curate the beating you're willing to take. To achieve what you want to achieve. I have taken, I went myself and was able to sit down and write down a bunch of words that I want to achieve, not realizing I did it because I was getting interviewed for a position at a, at a company. They said, tell us about your next five years. Like, shit, I don't know about my next five years. They wanted a five year vision. They sent me the vision of the CEO and it was a lot of bullet points. And I was like, nobody identifies with the bullet points. So I wrote myself a story, literally a letter to myself five years in advance. And I've achieved every damn thing that was on that. Not knowing I could is far beyond my reach at the time. And I've had other people come to me. It's like, how do we, we want to do the same thing? So I took him to my place in Missouri. That was also created with my mind in my pen. That's a whole other crazy story. They came out there, I went hunting. I put them in tree stands. These guys are from New York. They'd never been out in the, out in the woods at all, ever. So we showed up out there, flew into Kansas City, drove out to the place. I put him on tree stands. I'm like, I'm going hunting on the other side of the property. I got eight acres right there. You got to keep your asses in the stands till after dark because if you start moving around, it's going to push the deer out and you're going to piss me off. And so you want to come here. This is how it is. And these guys, I made them dressed in camo and they're kind of freaked out. Put him in the stands. I went and I hunted, came back and they were in my cabin with the light. I'm like, how long you guys been here? About 20 minutes. Like, no wonder some. There was a, a fricking buck that just busted through because you guys were moving. How, how much did you write? Well, nothing. One of the other guys came back late and he had eight pages. So we went over his eight pages. We talked that night, we went to bed. I kicked their ass out of bed at 4:00 in the morning. I put him in the stands that you don't leave here till 8, 10am I'm going back hunting. They all had like five, six, you know, one had eight. That was refined. The other guys had five or six pages, but by the end of three days, they all had eight to 10 pages. You know, that was eight, eight years ago. Every Single one achieved everything they wrote down within that five years.
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Justin Colby
Wow.
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Aaron Chapman
So we're going to help people do the exact same thing with that book on that place.
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Justin Colby
No one gives a damn about you.
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Aaron Chapman
Yes.
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Justin Colby
What's your take on that?
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Aaron Chapman
You got to give a damn about you, because nobody's gonna. Everybody's too busy giving to give a damn about themselves. You're in Miami, bro. No, that is extremely evident. What Miami does is it actually brings it. It brings it to the surface, very, very, very illuminated that nobody give about you. They give a damn about themselves. And when you don't give a damn about you, you're going nowhere. You have to be your biggest fan. You have to love yourself enough to put yourself through the pain, to become what you want to become.
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Justin Colby
You.
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Aaron Chapman
There's no. Some people they talk about. I can't. I remember I had. I had a girlfriend at one point, she was talking about Brad Pitt and Fight Club. She goes, you got to be unbelievably narcissistic to get your body to that level. You got to do that for everything.
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Justin Colby
Yeah.
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Aaron Chapman
You got to love yourself that enough. And then when you think about the Ten Commandments, we go through that in there in the book, and we break down the greatest commandments. Love God and love your neighbor as yourself. But how many people really love themselves? How do you fulfill the greatest commandment that's out there, which is to love God and love your neighbor as yourself? If you don't even love yourself, you got to come to terms with who you are. You can't use your genetics or anything for an excuse. You got to love what you have so damn much that you put everything out of line to become who it is you think you need to become. You have to work towards that every single day. And just because you achieve something doesn't mean it's. It's going to stay there. You get up on top of Everest, you take a shelf, you get your ass down, you go find another peak, because that's. Some bitch will kill you if you stay there.
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Justin Colby
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Aaron Chapman
Yeah.
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Justin Colby
And see how many people are actually there to help you or even listen to you offer advice. Everyone's willing to offer advice. I take that Back, everyone. Oh, here's, here's what you should do. But who's going to really jump in the ring and pick you up when you're down? And it could be financial, it could be physical, it could be mental, it could be a, a relationship gone sour, like. And you will come to find out there's a very small group, if you do it right, that will jump in that ring with you to pick you up.
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Aaron Chapman
But also they can only do so much because if you're going to lay in bed and wallow in your shit, they can't come get you up, they can't clean you up, they can't make you work out. They can't work out for you. There's nothing they can do for you other than offer support. That's just say, hey, we're here for you. Call me, I'll listen. They'll just, they'll. They'll help brace you up, but they can't do your work for you, they can't do your workout for you. They can't eat right for you. They can't do any of that for you. You are truly alone in this world. I don't give a damn how much your mom loves you, how much your dad loves you, how much your wife loves you, how much your kids love you. They can't do for you what you have to do for you.
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Justin Colby
You always have it on your should. Absolutely. But. And they, they can't. And they won't because they have their own mess. They're also knocked down in their own ring. Exactly right. They're like, so you're not perfect. They're not perfect. They don't have enough endurance to get over to your. To your ring.
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Eric Chapman
Yeah. About 14 years ago, my wife passed away and I had a ex girlfriend that reached out to me and she says, right now you're probably just getting bombarded by people reaching out to you. But you know, her dad passed away and she goes, in about a month, there's, it's just going to be. There's going to be nobody.
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Aaron Chapman
It's going to be silence.
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Eric Chapman
And I'll reach out to you then. And I was like, well, that's profound. You know, I was extremely grateful because she got to use something happen in her life and see that and recognize it. So whenever something like that happens to people, I know here for you now, but I make an effort to be here for them then, you know, I.
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Justin Colby
I think that's great wisdom is, is because that's only true when something happens. Everyone rushes, but they're they're there to probably give you a couple pieces of opinion and then they're gone and you're like, I don't need your opinion right now. I just need someone to listen or whatever the case, right?
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Eric Chapman
Especially since their opinions, usually they have no idea. In lots of cases they haven't been through it. And for those that have, I mean they, they know exactly what to do. But still you still have to go through it. I mean, you can't just give it to them.
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Justin Colby
So give everyone kind of the story behind the book, right? Because all these chapters have a meaning. But we can go into the motorcycle accident, we can go into the story behind being a 23 year old dad and trying to figure out your financial world and taking care of kids and everything in between there. Because that is the impetus of this and now for you to be as successful as you are. And if you don't know, go. Follow Aaron on all platforms. He is, we do real estate together. He is incredibly successful in the real estate investing space, specifically with the finances and financing. He is the expert in that arena. But it wasn't just a, you know, you walked into daddy's job, right? I mean, you've been taking.
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Aaron Chapman
I did walk into daddy's job, which was mining in New Mexico. And when they laid me off, I had to find something else, right? And so we already did that episode where we talked about that. And that was one of the greatest times in my life. Because you really get to see who you are when your face is down in the gutter and you're at the lowest point possible. And when you crawl up from that, you look back on that, you see the wisdom in it. You see the gifts from God in you stepping through the hell that is going through the toughest parts of your life. And then you get to A point in 2011, 2012 was when I decided to start writing something for my kids. And I started writing all this out, 380 pages of stuff and went to a publisher and I sent her all this thing and she goes, yeah, nobody gives a shit. Write something people give a shit about. I'm like, well, what is that? So I end up spending two days with her just downloading everything. And then they wrote something for me. I'm like, that's not me, that's not my voice. So I redid it. And then my brother in law gave me a suggestion. We published four of these little books, 30 pages only. I'm like, if you got to write more than 30 pages on a concept, you're just jerking us off with words. It's a waste of time. And so in and out. Those are great, great little books. And they're great concepts. Practical application of gratitude. One on. On being able to write these things down Happen. Another thing on. On. On reliability, you know, so great books, but they think they only sold a few thousand copies. And then I hear Robert Allen at a. At a. At a event. And Robert Allen's usually talking about real estate because he is the og the king dangling of real estate. There is no bigger badass than Robert Allen as far as real estate entrepreneurs are concerned, when you consider where he came from. Plus a multi, multi New York Times bestseller, multiple properties and multiple books and international bestseller back when you couldn't manipulate it. Yeah, it tells you something about what a badass is. And he's talking about how to write a book, not real estate, Mike. He's telling about all the things I did wrong. So I asked him, how do I. Can I bring these back and you help me fix them? Goes, no, you're gonna write a new book. What book am I gonna write? You tell me. Well, I'm not writing another damn book. Right? And so we kind of fought over it. I literally almost told him to piss off. He goes, no, let's sit down. Let's get the outline. He helped me with the outline. Then I just started writing. Yeah, now the outline. I had to come up with the outline. But he just. He gave me the mechanics of it, and then I'd send him a chapter. He goes, perfect, keep going. I'm like, you don't want to change it because. No, you just keep going. That's perfect. And he's like, literally laughing over these zoom calls. He goes, this is amazing. You just keep going, keep going, keep going. Then when it's done, he's like, you need to illustrate this book. I'm like, do you have an illustrator? He goes, no, I don't straight my books. Nothing's ever been illustrated. He goes, but he goes, you just find yourself in ours. Well, I had one, so convinced him to read it. You have what he was able to start to create. Then I need an editor. His wife is a professional editor, so she hooked me up with a few names. I sent them the manuscript with a forward from Robert Allen, which was my entry in. They said, robert Allen doesn't write forwards. Let's read this. They bastardized my work, so I couldn't find an editor. Finally, a friend of mine, Alan Stein Jr. Who was another author, said, talk to this guy. Sent it to that guy, he ended up being the CEO of a publishing company saying, we will publish this, but you need more artwork. We had 13, actually 14 pieces of art in there for the chapter covers, which are unbelievable. But he wanted at least three pieces of art per chapter in it and do the whole cover. My cover, I wanted just be an old leather cover.
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Justin Colby
Yeah.
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Aaron Chapman
He wanted it color with my face. I'm like, I don't want my damn face on the COVID But now you have that piece of art that was created because other people saw something I couldn't see.
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Justin Colby
Yeah.
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Aaron Chapman
Now we have no idea where it's going to go. Right. We're out here shaking our asses like we're late on rant, trying to do something with it. But I pray that anybody who picks it up understands the reason behind it. It wasn't me that said to do was somebody else who said to do it. It wasn't some me that decided to do the illustration. It was somebody else. And somebody else saw the vision of that. And, you know, one of the greatest compliments I ever got was from the person. I never wanted to read the manuscript because of the influence she had. My own mother. She finally read the first bound sets and she came to me and she said, I wished I had this to give you when you turned 8. That was such a profound statement. And then she called me just a few days ago while I was working out. She goes, can I talk to you about your book? I'm like, oh, here it is. She found some things he didn't like. He's found that one thing she's gonna bust my ass for because of the language that's in it, guys. Be forewarned. But she says, you know, I finished your book for the fifth time and I can finally forgive myself for the wrongs I did as a mother. She goes, what was spoken to me through your words have advanced me in a place I could never get. I've been trying for over 50 years. And I went back and she sent me a picture of where she took notes about being able to do that. And it was on the last page of the book. And as I'm reading the stuff she highlighted, I noticed right before the highlighted stuff, it says in the book, if you've made it this far, you're only 20% done. You got four more reads to get it. I don't understand why I wrote that. I don't remember writing that. But I wrote it from my own mother. She was able to. To allow me to feel the gravity of being able to speak to my mom with something that she needed and it didn't come from me. Yeah, there was a. There was something. I give that credit to God that I was able to speak for him to one of his children, that she needed to hear something and be able to move on. At 73 years old, ye the new.
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Justin Colby
I would tell you there there's a lot of self development books, but this is unique, this is special. Not just the name but genuinely how you communicate because you communicate in a way of real life example, not just concept or theory or, you know, metaphor. This is, I literally got served these hardships. This is how I handled them, this is how I overcame them. And it's practical and it's real. And that is, you know, as someone who genuinely reads slash listens to books a lot because I travel a ton, this is the uniqueness of this book. And I would tell anyone out there, make sure you get this when it's time to be able to buy it. Because if you want to be able to move on in life successfully, the practicality that you put into this book is going to be incredibly useful. Whoever reads it.
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Aaron Chapman
And you get to see some really awesome pieces of art's incredible.
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Eric Chapman
Thank you. Thank you. One thing he mentioned to me on this trip and I thought was interesting because you know, we've been going to all these different events. He says, you know, people hear guys up there telling stories that are just massive things they've gone through that are just practically unrelatable experiences that people have had or problems they've had that other people typically don't have he goes, man, sometimes I wonder about, you know, my experiences. I'm like, well, think about it. If you're talking about picking up change in a parking lot so you can buy some gas so you can get to the store to get diapers, that's.
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Aaron Chapman
Something so many people can relate to.
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Eric Chapman
And a lot of those people are solo if they have no hold.
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Justin Colby
Yeah.
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Eric Chapman
And here you are, you're not coming up with some story about something that happened to you that was so grandiose that other people can't comprehend it. You're saying something that everybody has had some knowledge of and they can relate to that and use it and apply it and go down the path that Aaron's outlining here.
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Justin Colby
Have the balls to stay your hand. Talk about this chapter as we wrap up.
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Aaron Chapman
So that accident I talked about, you know, where a 17 year old kid in his dad's truck created the biggest devastation in my life and almost took my life. My attorney told me he went and searched all the stuff that his family had and I was entitled every damn bit of it according to the law. And I put myself in the position of that man. A 17 year old kid driving your truck. You only have so much in your life monetarily. You've been all put together at that point. But now something was done where you literally have everything at risk. Can you imagine what his nights were like? Can you imagine the conversations around the table with their son? Can you imagine what he felt like? He had a baseball, potentially a baseball career ahead of him from what I recall. Who knows if he was able to even practice worth a damn because he knows that he was the cause of his family's losing everything. And I told my attorney to let it go because it was not going to make me whole anyway. I'm looking at my own children and say by the grace of God, will I never have to experience that Right now my youngest is 19 years old and she's about ready to fly the coop and not a single one of situation. I had to deal with that with four children.
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Justin Colby
Oh good.
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Aaron Chapman
But I started to realize the power in being able to understand the, the, the phrase meekness or not the phrase, but the word. Because it says in the scriptures it says blessed are the meek for they shall inherit the earth. When you think meek, what are you thinking?
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Justin Colby
Weak and just like really lowly person.
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Aaron Chapman
Exactly. Very, very poor, humble situation. But it's actually a very powerful person who chooses not to use their power. Who is basically, it's the gardener. It's the warrior in the Garden?
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Eric Chapman
Yeah. It's a man with the sheathed sword.
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Aaron Chapman
Yep. That is a meek man. And it says they'll inherit the earth. Well, if you're talking about a weak person, they're going to hurt. They're not that. You're talking about this weakness thing for something promised in the future. In the future life from God. No, it's here. So when you know a person that has the ability to come around and just start taking heads and he's a powerful son bits, but he chooses not to for the sake of the other person, they that's a person that you want to be around. That's a person that you will trust with everything because you know he's not going to take from you. That meek man is what I, who I had to become to know that I could take everything I was justified to come in anger, silverback on coke after this some bitch. But I had to calm it down and say it's not worth it, that there's more value in life than that kind of stuff. And so you start deciding that and understanding the value of meekness, that it's, it's, it's a very powerful person. I defined that power, the concept of.
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Justin Colby
Not taking action through emotion or at least knee jerk action because obviously you're angry. Your life was almost taken from you. You're, you know, physically less of a man than you were. You could easily have the anger, knee jerk reaction, let me go after what I deserve. And you didn't. And you slowed down, you calmed down and you took some reason within your decisions. And then you look to scripture and basically say, hey, I'm better than that. I don't need to ruin their life. Right. Just because I can.
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Aaron Chapman
You have to find the power within to know that you're still going to be able to make it out of it. Yeah, because I was going to. From a net worth of about $4 million to a negative net worth of 1.5 guys. This was August of 2008. Yeah, August 8th of 2008, I laid on that blacktop and I baked in Arizona. You got to know what that blacktop felt like. I shattered a bunch. About 17 broken bones, collapsed along a memory that lasted three minutes. And I was tore up every time they came in to move me because of how bad my back was from the road rash and the burns. I literally just cringed every time they walk in my room to move me around. So I had to move to all kinds of different treatment. They pulled that sheet to move you and it would crack all those scabs that I adhered to. Those sheet adhered to my body and I have to put up with that pain over and over and over again as I cracked all those scabs. A full body of scabs. So when you consider all those kinds of things, I was justified in anything and everything I was going to do. But it's a powerful, powerful step to know that I don't need to take from that. I'll find it a different way in a way that I will earn, not deserve. Because it's also written in there how many things we deserve. And it's absolutely freaking nothing. You gotta earn it.
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Justin Colby
Ladies and gentlemen, Redneck Economics got it right. Redneckonomics out soon. Depending home when you watch this or it is already out. Go check Amazon right now. It's also on the website QuitJerking Off.com QuitJerkinOff.com Redneckonomics we have the author, we have the illustrator brothers, Eric and Aaron Chapman. I appreciate you being here.
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Aaron Chapman
Thank you.
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Eric Chapman
Thank you.
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Aaron Chapman
Sincerely.
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Justin Colby
That is the brothers. I am Justin Colby. This is the entrepreneur DNA. We'll see you guys on the next episode. Peace.
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Aaron Chapman
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