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Mindset Matters - Episode #208 - From Self-Improvement to Self-Mastery: The Next Level of Personal Growth
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Foreign. Welcome to this episode of the Everyday Millionaire mindset matters podcast, where I'm joined by my wife, Olympic mental performance coach Stephanie Hanlon. Francie. In these episodes, Stephanie and I have a conversation about the different aspects of what we refer to as mindset matters because we believe that for those who are awake, we are living in and through the most impactful time in history. Your view of the world is the filter for how you will experience the evolution and changing dynamics of it. Our intention is to provide you with ideas, nutritious food for thought, and some tools that you can use to help you in being your greatest self and living your best life. Listen in, Enjoy. Self improvement, personal development, self discovery. So many terms, and we stepped over one big one for a while, and that is self mastery. You know, on our journey of developing mind shui and mindset matters and what we call the mind shui way, I started to realize that the body of work called personal development or self improvement is really important work. That's why we're on the journey. But I've been considering what we teach and coach is not really either self development or personal development. It's certainly not self discovery because most of the clients we work with are well on their way. So in our own journey. And I started thinking about it a lot more and the term that describes what we do, and I realized the term was self mastery, and that's what resonated with me. But I've never really considered it or given it a distinction. Like, what is the difference between self mastery and personal development? That is the topic of the show today. I even made some notes. Welcome to mindset Matters. Stephanie.
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Hi, hon.
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Now, I know that was long in, but I wanted to give people a hook right away to let them know what we're going to talk about. I'm told that's what we need to do. Get to the point. Talk about what we're going to talk about. Okay, well, let's do it instead of.
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Rambling around like we do.
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Instead of rambling around like we do. We can save that for later. So the personal development, you know, we've used it frequently. I think there's another one that I may not have mentioned. No, I did. Which is self discovery. And self discovery, for me was more appropriate to the work we've done and certainly the work we've studied over the years because we had a different way of doing it, and we're going to break that down. And I did make notes, by the way. So before we get started, anything that.
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You want to Say no, I love it that we're creating a distinction because there was also one word that we used back in 2020 when we first started Mindset Matters was self uncovery. So don't forget that one.
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That was a good one too. Yeah, yeah. So I think, you know, at a high level, you know, we can look at it in terms of self mastery would mean that you've. In our kind of world, it means that you're done that kind of self discovery journey. You've done personal development work over the years. You know, self help or self improvement was probably where you started. Where many go, life's not working for me, I got to figure shit out. But then you start to realize that there's deeper and deeper levels. And that's just where we've come to this many years later. And that's also as we're rolling out our mind Shui Beta program. When we look at some of the clients that are registering to join us for the pilot, I'm excited, but. But they're all pretty accomplished and in their own journeys of development, if you will, personal development.
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I think with some of them, they've been on a journey for a long time and they're on the journey of self mastery. And I think about the difference between self discovery, self improvement, self uncovery, and into the journey of self mastery. And what, you know, the other thing we used to joke about back in the day is that where people can stop sometimes is in shelf help. Sure, right. Just going to the bookstore and just standing in the spiritual growth or personal discovery kind of aisles and standing there going, oh my gosh, there's so much here and where do I start? And oh my gosh, this is crazy. And it's what a waste of time or whatever. But when it comes to personal mastery or self mastery, I think about as almost like a really soft and quiet place to restart.
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Well, and let's talk about that. I think that's the key, right? Is that it is a journey and it's a never ending journey. Because self mastery, as you go through the phases of life, as you kind of transition from one phase of life to another, maybe relationships, friendships, all of these things that start to happen, the awareness that we gain as we get older, all that is about mastery at certain levels. So I did make some notes and one of them, there's a. There's two or three points that I kind of got to, which is personal development is about doing the doingness and self mastery is about being. You know, you and I talk often about who are you being in the context of what you're doing? Personal development is about building you up, inspiring, aspiring self mastery clears what's in the way of you moving forward. And I think that what I really get to is that growth begins when the doingness evolves into being, when improvement becomes the alignment. And that's where the flow gets created within the mind world. And self mastery is where, as we talk about, clarity becomes velocity and success actually feels like peace.
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Oh, I love that. Where success feels like peace. Yeah. So you think about the journey of self mastery or personal mastery. You know, after you do your undergrad, for example, you. You can choose to do your master's degree, and you become specificity, become something or do something that takes you to the next level. And then, of course, you circle back around and go, you know, we're not human doings, we're human beings. And when we have the opportunity to understand that, we can discover who we're being and we can do, you know, our own personal mastery program is that getting to know yourself and how you're showing up in the world and who you get to be and how people are perceiving you is all within your control. And that's what I love about the term mastery, is that it's about taking full 100% responsibility for who we're being.
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100%. You know, there's so many directions we could go with this conversation, because I love this conversation. And you know, when you think about self mastery, it is always about that incremental improvement. I mean, how many times over the years have we asked somebody, are you aware of what you're thinking about? What do you mean?
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Yeah. Who's the thinker of the thoughts?
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Who's the thinker of the thoughts? You have some awareness of your thinking? Well, no, I think I know, but do you ever think about what you're thinking about? No.
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That would take some personal awareness, wouldn't it?
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What's your point? Right. So anyways, and then are you aware of who you're being, how you're showing up, what are your blind spots? We go on this journey and massively, mastery is always about. I don't even like to use the term anymore because it gets so overused. But being the best version of yourself. But mastery isn't even about being the best version of yourself because you realize that you never are. There's always a place to be a better version of you. And when you have the right context, the right kind of thought processes around it, it's just these subtle Improvements, it is mastery. You're not doing it. So when you think about personal development, it kind of adds to yourself. Like you're growing thought process and things, you know, how you think. But mastery is really about revealing yourself and getting to your truest self. I think there's some version of that.
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Yeah. And then the willingness to be vulnerable, right. And to be exposed, like to be a master. You think about whether it's a feng shui master or a bai chi master, or you put the term master on something, it means that you've done enough work to collapse your ego or to really bust down to the root of who you truly are, where you no longer have to prove yourself. Right. And I think when I think about mastery, I think about what it takes to put your ego aside and, and just be in the. In the truth of curiosity and the vulnerability of, of being in your own power. And that's what I love about the term mastery, is that it removes a lot of the layers of the doingness of that. I need to be more, to get more. I have to, I have to work harder. I have to, right? Instead of just going, whoa, wait, whoa. What if I'm just enough?
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I think, you know, there's. But that's probably the right question, what if I'm enough? But here's the thing, that I'm going to unpack that one layer deeper. I think that mastery personal development is about how you occur and what you're doing. It is about getting things done. It's about, it's about. It's more external in terms of who you are externally, how you show up, what you do, how you appear, how you talk to people. And that's all good. But I think there's a part of mastery where it's not about out there. I know for me a lot of what I do right now, as much as I want the program to hit and beta and pilot, share and purpose and all of those kinds of things is really important. But the mastery part of it is about me. It's about how am I challenging myself, how am I growing? It really is an inside job. It just is an inside job. I mean, I'm making a lot of changes that you may notice maybe, and I think you do. You're pretty aware of me and you're pretty dialed in that way. But it's a lot of just internal shifts. And to me, that's mastery. And when you have those internal shifts, you occur differently. So in the world of mastery, for example, it, you know, I'll. I'll kind of lay it out, but you know, with my notes. But there's, there's just a part of mastery where because of how you're evolving yourself, you show up differently and it impacts your out, your outside world. So your inner is what we've said this many times, who you're being. Your life is a reflection of who you're being, but it's an inside job. And the more that you can clear the internal clutter, which is what we talk about, create that flow, create that energy, your external world starts to change because you're making different decisions, you're communicating differently. Am I on the right track?
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Yeah, yeah, for sure. And I think what comes up for me is the flow. Like when I think about when my life is flowing and my acronym for flow was Freedom, Love, ownership and wonder. Right? Freedom, love, ownership and wonder. And I think about flow and that's what I think about mastery. And when I'm not in flow and things are sticky and they've been sticky for me for the last, I don't know, I want to say a couple months where I don't know if there's just changes in how I'm showing up or you know, I'm really letting certain things go and, and you know, bumping into, I don't know if it's karma or things, decisions that I made for whatever reason, but it's stickier than it normally has. And when I'm really leading, leaning into, you know, the term mastery, to me it's a much more quiet place than development. Like I think about long term athlete development, for example. It's a long term process from A to B, C to Zed, you know. But when I think of mastery, I think about what's important now, like where am I at and how am I processing and, and the, and the shit that's coming at me, how am I processing and am I emotional? Like you've been really helpful the last little while helping me with my emotional resilience because there's things that have come at me that I just haven't been. I don't know if not I'm not taking responsibility for or I just haven't been prepared for. And I think being able to rely on you and your ability to master your emotions has helped me stay grounded in the things that come up for me. So I think we can actually share or borrow the confidence and the mastery of the people that we have around us. And I think. You know, I was looking at something this morning as I was scrolling my recipes and it says, you know, when you're. One of the. One of the things said, if you're not feeling a hundred percent confident in what you're doing, find somebody who is and just bring that person into your. It doesn't have to be a thousand people. It can just be one person.
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I share that quote all the time. Confidence is rarely owned. It's most often borrowed. And it's perfectly okay to borrow confidence. It's a smart thing to do.
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Very smart.
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Okay, so let's go down the list. A couple of lists. I made a list between. I wanted to kind of shine a light on personal development and self mastery. And so that we can kind of dial this in. And then if you're listening and as you're listening to this, you can see maybe where you are on your journey. Neither are wrong. None of it's wrong. As a matter of fact, it's just a case of when we started talking about mindshare and clearing the clutter, it was like, oh, what is this body of work, really? There's so many awesome bodies of work out there, and we've done many, and we certainly work on a lot of different things. But when we hit on mine shui and clearing the clutter of your mind and getting energy and flow, it really was like, well, how do we define that? You know, how do we put that in a niche that people can relate to? And that's where self mastery showed up for me. So in the dimension of. Or in personal development, if you think about personal development, the primary or we'll start at the top of this list. Your dimension is core, or your core focus in this case is improving skills, habits, and performance. Self mastery is transforming consciousness, beliefs, and identity. Ooh.
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Okay, so what you're saying is that on your list, you're comparing personal development to self mastery. So personal development is more external is what I'm hearing, but self mastery is more internal.
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Yes.
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So repeat those three things again. Just. Just stay there for a sec on number one.
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So if in this column, we've got dimension, and so I said this. In this dimension, we talk about core focus as one of the things around personal development. Okay. What the core focus is is improving skills, habits, and performance. And then self mastery is about transforming consciousness, beliefs, and identity.
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Right.
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Wow.
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Okay. So there's a transcendence between development and mastery, which I think, you know, maybe we've been hanging out in the personal development space longer than we needed to be hanging out there when we've really been transcending into the personal mastery Space, which is much more internal and more conscious of space.
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It's more internal and. Yeah, it is. It's. It's why we, I think, have gravitated to, you know, the journey of self mastery is just part of it. And, you know, really. And there's just different things that talk, you know, or get us to self mastery. So I want to make something clear. I'm not making anything wrong here. I'm just drawing a, like a distinction. And this is as much for myself or, and. Or for staff, Stephanie, and for our clients and for those listening. Is it or where are you out of the journey you're on? I think that's how I'm looking at it. So in the dimension of personal development, you look at primary question, how can I become better at what I do? And self mastery, which is. This is a term you and I use constantly, which is, who am I being in what I'm doing?
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Right, right, right. So I can do better. It's like with the real estate investment network, right? It was. People are always going, tell me how, tell me how. Give me the tools, give me the tactics. And we're like, actually, there's a point where the tactics aren't going to work if you're not being true to yourself and living true to your values. Right. And it was a real battle for the longest time.
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It still is. You know, the hows are where people get stuck. Just tell me how, tell me how, tell me how. And it doesn't matter. Like, we can tell you how, but you got to become the person you need to become to actually execute on the house. So goal orientation, you know, dimension in personal development, you got growth through external achievement and measurable progress. And in self mastery, it's alignment through internal awareness, integrity, and intentional action.
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Wow. So, you know, I'm going through that right now because it's an Olympic year. So we have many athletes that are just checking the boxes. They just want to win this event and this challenger and this senior B in this Grand Prix. And then there's the athletes that are like, yeah, you know what? I just want to be better than I was yesterday. I just want to really connect to myself and to my partner and to the audience and make a difference and be purposeful. So there's very. There's two very driving, two different driving factors right now going into the Olympic Games, and it's absolutely fascinating.
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So what do you think in that case? What do you think they. You know, you've been around hundreds of athletes, you've done this many Times. Where do you guide them?
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Oh, I meet them where they're at 100%.
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I know, but. No, but where. You just talked about, like, how some athletes show up versus somebody else. You gave a couple of different examples. Some athletes do this and some athletes do that.
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And I'm saying I think it depends on their own personal journey. Like, some have been through some massive adversity and have just said, you know what? It's not about the sport anymore. It's not about ice dance or skating or winning. It's about who I get to become. And until some athletes have been through, whether it's the dark night of the soul or some adversity, and some of them are just playing, they just want to have fun and win and all that. And it's a very different conversation. I don't think one is right and one is wrong. But I do notice the ones that have really had to look at themselves and then use ice dance as a vehicle to get what they want in life and to make a difference and have purpose versus the other ones that are just seeing it as, oh, this is fun, and I'm going to win medals and I'm going to go to the Olympics and I'm going to be a tourist in Italy in February. And it's very different and it's not right or wrong. And how I deal with that is where they're at. And I can support an athlete absolutely. To be a tourist at the Olympic Games, especially if they're at the beginning of their journey and it's just their first quad. It's just the. They're dipping their toe in and they're getting to know themselves and they're going to get hit hard when they go to their first Games, because the illusion that the. The Olympic Games is and then the reality are two different things. And then I've got clients that are on their third and fourth and some of them on their fifth Games, if you can believe it, that they now know the truth of who they're being, there's not being defined by a medal or by being a champion or whatever. It's about who they got to become because of this journey.
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And they've also come to realize that it is an inside job as much as all the technical stuff. Yes, but that comes from the inside out. That's so funny, isn't it?
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Isn't it?
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Okay, so if your dementia is driver like you want to get shit done kind of things you have. Personal development is about motivation and aspiration, seeking improvement. Whereas in the world of self mastery, awareness and discipline. Cultivating command over your thoughts, emotions and behaviors. I mean, how many times do we talk about that? I mean, how many times have we talked about discipline versus habits and systems and all the things that we talk about? But ultimately you have to first have the awareness around just discipline. Yeah.
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And you know what's so funny about that is that when you have discipline, things get easier. It just, it removes a lot of the mind clutter and the mind fuck around. Oh, my God, what am I going to do? What am I going to wear? What am I like, I think about at night when I take the glasses down and I, you know, clean up the kitchen a little bit and then I put some stuff out in the morning and I know I've got my water there and my. My little workout gear and all that kind of stuff is that it doesn't. I don't have to think when I get up in the morning. Like there's a pre. It's like doing the meal prep on like today's Sunday. It's a Thanksgiving Sunday, but I'm also doing meal prep for the week. But doing that means things are going to get easier. So the discipline to do that, even though it's complicated and I got shit going on and dogs and we want to prepare the podcast and all this stuff and I got to pack a suitcase and all that, it's easier in the long run to be disciplined in this moment.
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Okay, I concur. I want to keep going. I got a couple of three more scope. So, you know, bigger, better, all the things scope, you know, if that's where you're thinking from. In the world of personal development, it's broad and horizontal. Adds knowledge, habits or tools. And in self mastery, it's deep and vertical. Refines the self that applies those tools. And so this is where it all. On the self mastery side of things. It always comes back to that.
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Interesting. You know, when we talk about life isn't linear. You know, think of in personal development, you think about A plus B equals C. There's a linear ality, if that's a word. But in mastery, it's circular. You go back, you check in, bring forward, let go, bring forward what works, let go what didn't work. So it's more circular. And to me, that's where mastery lives.
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Relationship with ego. Good one.
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Good one. Okay.
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Personal development world, often ego reinforcing. Be more, have more, do more. You know, that whole thing get more yet more and a strong need to be right. Yeah. Self mastery is ego Transcending and we're seeing clearly. And we act from our essence, not Persona. We don't. In self mastery, the ego doesn't feel the need to be right. And if it does, is doing it for a reason, saying, no, you're not safe or no, this business deal will blow up. Okay, but the self mastery world is, I don't need to be right. Carney's this and political that and Russia's there and Palestine's there. Like, okay, that's interesting. Don't need to be right.
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Right. But you get to be curious and I think that's what's interesting about the difference between self mastery and develop personal development when you talk to ego is that there's a know thyself. There's this Socrates thing about know thyself and, and if, if there's a moment of pause and you know, you could react and you can have a fired up, you know, reaction to politics or fired up reaction to what's going on in the world and you have that charge in your body and you know that there's. That could lead to dis. Ease or you take a pause, you take a beat and you go, huh, let me rethink that through a different lens. And do I really have to react to that? And to me that is not control, but it's like a relationship with ego, ego management and having the ability to again, not be a right fighter and be. And, and my question always today, even in a couple of meetings with clients today, it was like the question was, what if I'm wrong and am I okay if I'm wrong?
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Personal development when it comes to outcome is enhanced competence and confidence, getting better competence and confidence in self mask it's inner clarity, coherence and freedom. In other words, it's command of self. Right.
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I was wondering when we get to freedom, freedom.
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So I want to go back a little bit to know thyself. You know, there's a part of know thyself too that in the personal development space, you kind of cross that line where you go, I don't even know what you mean. What do you mean, know thyself? This is who I am. Like there is that. There is that time in many people's lives where they. No, what do you. What are you talking about? Know thyself? This is just who I am. Like there's that part. Whereas self mastery, I think in that context, when you think about self mastery, know thyself is what you, you do know yourself, but you also are looking at where are your Blind spots. Where are the things that are getting in your way of creating that external vision that you want for your life? You look at your external life and you go, if I'm not happy here or if this isn't what I want, or if I want to grow or if I want more, what do I have to. Where I got to look inside? I got to go internally.
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Who do I have to become?
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Who do I have to become? That's the question.
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That's the hardest part, I think, recently. And you've been really great with me and very patient, because I know I'm in a. I'm in a growth mode right now, and I'm resisting it a little bit. But I also know that there's some releasing and some letting go of certain things, like letting go of our apartment in Emmons and letting go of certain people that have been in our life for a long time. Letting go of ideas, letting go of judgments or thought processes that, you know, I've been attached to or I've had in my identity. And I find that what you've been really great at lately is helping me work through the attachment. And I don't know if that really matches with this last one here, but there's an attachment piece that we have to be willing to look at and loosen when it comes to know thyself. It's like, okay, well, that's who I was, or that's what I believed up until, like, five minutes ago. And now I have more information. Now I have more data, and is it okay for me to change my mind and, you know, and. And to. To show up differently and still be loved and still be accepted? Because I do feel like as I let go of some of these things, and I'm sure people are experiencing this too, right now as we go through the 2025s into the next iteration of what's happening is that there's some things I believe I have to shed, and I want to be an example for doing that with grace.
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Yeah. Yeah. Because it's a necessary part of our evolution. From my perspective. Yes. It's so funny is that I don't have a lot of attachments to external stuff, as you know. And I mean, I like it, it's great to have it, but if I don't have it, I don't care. Or if it goes away, I don't care. And as an example of that is a friend of mine is a car. Not got collectors cars. Likes everything polished and shiny, and he comes over to look and he Sees my truck and one of the staff that was staying with us, you know, hit something and put a dent in the truck a little bit. And I mean it's. No, it's. Well, I'll tell you, I got a quote on it. It's like $5,000 worth of damage, which I guess isn't. Well, you can tell it's not serious. But we digress. My point of it is, is that he's going, you got to get this fixed. I go, no, I don't really care. Don't really care. If it's convenient, I'll do it. But I don't really care. You know, I'm not attached. I don't care. I just don't care.
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Well, not that you don't care, it's just that it's not higher on your priorities that you can't care about things that, that aren't going to make a difference in your life. And I love that about it.
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It doesn't make a difference. My point is it's detachment. That's my point. Okay. In the dimension of what we'll call going and looking through the mind shui lens is what I came to was that personal development is developing external success skills. All very important. And that can be very foundational for some people. It's like could be public speaking, it could be how to network, it could be business related. And how do you show up at a meeting? There's that external success, those skills that you need to develop, you follow? I think it's really important. And so in the space of personal development, that one landed really well within my definition from a mind shui point of view, but from self mastery, it is about clearing the internal clutter to identify purpose and that our actions align with that purpose. That to me is more the mind shui way.
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Yeah, it's true. It's like action, decide, action, result. And then. And look at the clutter and look at the distractions and look at the things we put in our way. The procrastination to not get our results right. I think to me that's where the mind ship, my shui way is so powerful is that do we have the courage to actually have the clarity that we can have the velocity of the life that we want or are we just doing motion versus action? Right? So I think about that and I go, wow, I'm so grateful for the fact that I've been able to clear some of the clutter over the years. You know, nobody thought I was ever going to be an Olympic coach. And Nobody ever thought you were going to be a multi business owner. And nobody thought I was going to be an NHL coach because that's not how it started out. And then I remember somebody saying to me a while ago, it's like, how did you do any of that stuff? You were just little so and so from the north side of Edmonton. And it's like, well, you know, I had a, I had a. I kind of had a goal. I wanted to be good at something. I wanted to be the best in the world at something. And that's what mastery kind of means to me.
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I know. And I was just going to comment on something though. I was just actually going to say before you said that we historically, I mean, we've set goals in our life and we've had some fun with that. And I always remember a couple of times where we set goals and forget about them and a year later we're going, holy shit, we nailed all those. But we've always been pretty good. At least some vision that we can talk about. So although it doesn't have necessarily a specific goal, which I'm not saying is right, maybe that's why, maybe we short changed ourselves, I don't know. But we've always had, I think we got a pretty great life. And it came from vision, you know, when we started. When I think about the podcast and how it started and how it's grown and evolved and developed and out of that came mine. Shui Wei. But my goal was to, you know, really shifted. What about three or four years ago? Four years ago. So let's spend some time on the podcast. Like, let's really kind of unpack that. And of course now millions of downloads later and amazing guests on the everyday Millionaire podcast. Like, I mean, the quality of guests just gets freaking crazy. I'm almost like, I'm not usually too intimidated, but I've had some guests where I'm going, okay, I got to be smart.
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Good thing you are anyway.
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That is so it's more about that. I think that's the mastery part of it now is in those realizations. You know, we are very quick to say, we're not saying we're doing it right and everybody's wrong at all. We're just saying that's how we do it. And we're always on the journey of self discovery and, and self mastery. And we're excited about our pilot data pilot.
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I know. And it's coming up and we've got weddings coming up, we've got, I've got events coming up. Yeah, there's all this really fun stuff coming up.
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Toronto trip going on.
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B
Toronto, gotta expand. I mean, I think about at our, you know, at this stage of our journey, what I'm really grateful for is that we're both still willing to stretch and move and grow into it. I mean, there was a time in the last little while where I just wanted to just throw my hands up and give up. But you know what, I just gave myself pause and, and, and was patient and compassionate with myself and you know, put myself around people who weren't judging and, and then I got my strength back. And now as we move forward and we support our friends and their journeys, we've got birth, we've got, sadly, some, you know, people that are ill in our life. We've got people that are growing. We've got weddings coming up. We've got things that are really important to us and other people. And I'm just grateful that we're able to be present to those things and not step over. I mean, I've been talking to some people recently that are really numb and that is scary to me for sure. That's really scary.
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A
Lots of going, lots of that going on in the world. Okay, we'll call that a wrap. The Mind Shui Way. Personal development. Self mastery. Self discovery. Self improvement.
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B
Self uncovery. The common thing in there is self. And what I love about this conversation is that it's not selfish, it's self full. It's understanding that we have to matter enough to care so that we can take care of the other people in our life and live our purpose.
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A
Beautiful. And on that now for wrapping up Mindset matters. Thanks for listening. Thanks Stephanie.
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B
Awesome pun. That was fun.
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A
Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for listening. If you found value in the podcast, please take the time to rate and review and share with others. Share with your friends as it is my goal to always improve and to provide the highest value for you, the listener. If you have any comments, suggestions or questions you'd like answered, please email me at CEO@raincanada.com. that's CEO@r e I n canada.com. i look forward to hearing from you. And until next time, Patrick.
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B
Oh.