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Email, in my humble opinion, is still the greatest marketing channel of all time. It's the only way you can truly own your audience today. But when it comes to building those emails, well, if you've ever tried building an email in an enterprise marketing automation platform, you know just how painful that can be. I won't name names, but templates get too rigid. Editing code can break things and the whole process just takes forever when it shouldn't. That's why we love knack here at exit 5. Knack is a no code email platform that makes it easy to create on brand high performance, forming emails without the bottlenecks. If you're frustrated by clunky email builders, you need nac. If you're tired of hoping the email you sent looks good across all devices, just test it in NAC first. And if you're a big team that's making it hard to collaborate and get approvals on your email, you definitely need nac. The best part, everything takes a fraction of the time. You can see Knack in action@knack.com exit5. That's knock.com exit5. Or just let them know you heard about Knack from exit5.
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That's us. All right. Hey, I'm recording something different. It's Dave, by the way. I'm out for a hike today. It's 94 degrees in Vermont. I'm just doing a little, a little hike. And it's oftentimes where I do my best thinking because I'm not thinking about anything. And I just was thinking about kind of what, what's going on in marketing and AI and everything. And I started to just try to like, drill down to what is it about the job of marketing that I actually like, you know, like what draws me to it. And this is the simplest, like, story and analogy that I have. It's like, it doesn't matter if it's like, you know, we're kind of working B2B or software or whatever industry you're in, right? But it's like the challenge of like, hey, the local school is having a, is having an event and the event is on, you know, Tuesday, July 12th. And it's your job to like, come.
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Up with a name for the event.
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Come up for a reason that you're doing the event, come up with all the promotion for it, the flyers, the logo, and then that feeling of like, on the day of the event, you're a little bit nervous, but then there's buzz and everybody shows up and they have an amazing time. It's. It's that feeling. And even dating back to like, I don't know, think about being a kid or in high school and college, you're trying get people together. You're like, oh, so and so's having a party. Okay, I got this person, this person's gonna come and this person's gonna come and then everybody shows up. And that's the fun of it. So that's what, that's what drew me. That's what drew me to like, that's what I realized. That's what I like about this job. And I hope that because of what's possible with like AI tools, not that I think it's going to replace everybody's job, but I'm more bullish on the fact that it makes each person in marketing more of like a full stack marketer with the ability to use more tools without needing to know how truly design or develop. And I know there's going to be designers and developers who are going to be able to do it better maybe right now, but I think there's like, there's just a whole layer of efficiency and stuff that I can do as a marketer on my own that I don't need a huge team for. So that's the role of marketing. That's what's fun. Not the internal meetings and the arguments about attribution and the credit and the how do we measure this or that. It's just like the, hey, we want to have, we want to have a party. We want to have this event to, you know, we don't have to. A fundraiser for the, for the town. And we do it and your work got a bunch of people there and they had an amazing time and it was successful for the town. That's how I think about it. So anyway, that's my quick little antidote for my hike today. If you're listening to this, I just want to say hi. If you're listening to this Exit 5 podcast, find me on LinkedIn. Dave Gearhart. Send me a message or connect with me there or just send us a note hixitfive.com and be like, yeah, I heard your little mini episode in the woods. And that is also why love marketing. See you.
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Podcast Summary: The Exit Five CMO Podcast – "Why I Love Marketing (Quick Voice Note From Dave)"
Episode Information
Timestamp: [01:06]
Dave Gerhardt begins the episode with a personal anecdote, setting the scene by describing a hike he took in Vermont. He emphasizes how nature and moments of solitude often spark his best thinking, allowing him to disconnect from daily distractions and focus on deeper reflections about his passion for marketing.
Notable Quote:
"I'm just doing a little hike. It's oftentimes where I do my best thinking because I'm not thinking about anything." — Dave Gerhardt [01:30]
Timestamp: [01:45]
Dave delves into what draws him to the marketing profession by comparing it to organizing and hosting an event. He illustrates the multifaceted responsibilities involved, such as naming the event, crafting its purpose, designing promotional materials, and ensuring its success. This analogy highlights the creative and strategic aspects of marketing that Dave finds fulfilling.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
"It's like the challenge of, hey, the local school is having an event... it's your job to come up with a name, come up with a reason, the promotion for it, the flyers, the logo... and then that feeling of, on the day of the event, you're a little bit nervous, but then there's buzz and everybody shows up." — Dave Gerhardt [02:00]
Timestamp: [03:00]
Transitioning from his event analogy, Dave explores the intersection of marketing and artificial intelligence. He expresses optimism about AI tools enhancing the capabilities of marketers, enabling them to become "full-stack marketers." AI, in Dave's view, democratizes sophisticated marketing tasks, allowing individuals to execute complex strategies without needing extensive design or development teams.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
"I'm more bullish on the fact that it makes each person in marketing more of a full-stack marketer with the ability to use more tools without needing to know how to truly design or develop." — Dave Gerhardt [03:45]
Timestamp: [04:30]
Dave emphasizes the human-centric nature of marketing, contrasting it with the often data-heavy and metric-driven internal discussions that can sometimes overshadow the core mission. He underscores the importance of creating meaningful connections and successful events over getting bogged down by debates over attribution and measurement.
Key Points:
Notable Quote:
"It's just like, we want to have a party... and your work got a bunch of people there and they had an amazing time and it was successful for the town. That's how I think about it." — Dave Gerhardt [04:15]
Timestamp: [05:00]
Wrapping up his reflections, Dave invites listeners to connect with him on LinkedIn or through Exit Five’s community. He reiterates his passion for marketing and the rewarding aspects it brings, driven by the ability to create impactful events and foster genuine connections.
Notable Quote:
"That is also why I love marketing." — Dave Gerhardt [04:55]
In this concise yet insightful episode, Dave Gerhardt encapsulates his passion for marketing by highlighting its creative challenges, the empowering role of AI, and the fundamental joy of connecting people. His event planning analogy serves as a relatable metaphor for the multifaceted nature of marketing, while his optimism about AI underscores the evolving landscape of the field. For marketers seeking inspiration and a reaffirmation of the human elements in their work, this episode offers valuable perspectives.
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