Welcome back to The FAIK Files!

In this week's special interview episode:

We sit down with Jason Thatcher, a Deepfake Red Teaming expert from Breacher.ai.
We discuss why static deepfakes (like voicemail) are currently outperforming live video attacks.
The emerging threat of "Agentic AI" and how it changes the landscape for 2026.
Why teaching people to "spot the glitch" creates a false sense of security.

Want to leave us a voicemail? Here's the magic link to do just that: ⁠⁠⁠https://sayhi.chat/FAIK⁠⁠⁠

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*** NOTES AND REFERENCES ***

Guest: Jason Thatcher:

Jason is a leader in Deepfake Red Teaming, testing people, processes, and technology against AI threats.
Check out Breacher.ai: https://breacher.ai/

Key Topics & References:

Agentic AI: The shift from human-in-the-loop attacks to fully automated, multi-stage orchestration of phishing and voice attacks.
The $25 Million Deepfake Scam: We discussed the referenced January 2024 case where a finance worker in Hong Kong was tricked by a deepfaked CFO video conference.
Red Teaming Ethics: How to simulate attacks without creating "leakable disinformation" or jeopardizing employee jobs.
Defense Strategy: Moving away from visual detection (shadows/glitches) toward context awareness, out-of-band verification, and slowing down.

*** THE BOILERPLATE ***

About The FAIK Files:

The FAIK Files is an offshoot project from Perry Carpenter's most recent book, FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes, Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions.

Get the Book: ⁠FAIK: A Practical Guide to Living in a World of Deepfakes, Disinformation, and AI-Generated Deceptions⁠ (Amazon Associates link)
Check out the website for more info: ⁠https://thisbookisfaik.com⁠

Check out Perry & Mason's other show, the Digital Folklore Podcast:

Want to connect with us? Here's how:

Connect with Perry:

Perry on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/perrycarpenter⁠
Perry on X: ⁠https://x.com/perrycarpenter⁠
Perry on BlueSky: ⁠https://bsky.app/profile/perrycarpenter.bsky.social⁠

Connect with Mason:

Mason on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/mason-amadeus-a853a7242/⁠
Mason on BlueSky: ⁠https://bsky.app/profile/wickedinterest.ing

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Attack Your Company with Deepfakes (feat. Jason Thatcher of Breacher.ai)