Ben Ennis and Brent Gunning wrap up Thursday by discussing the Toronto Maple Leafs with historian Damien Cox. They cover the team's recent performance, leadership issues, Auston Matthews' injury response, and the need for tougher players. Damien shares thoughts on rebuilding without a full overhaul and the challenges ahead. Afterward, former Blue Jay Michael Saunders (24:33) joins to share memories of playing in Canada, his take on the Blue Jays and Mariners rivalry, and thoughts on baseball's growing popularity in Canada, along with the emotional toll of losing in the World Series. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the hosts and guests and do not necessarily reflect the position of Rogers Sports & Media or any affiliate.