A Blue Tsunami Is Forming

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Find Out Podcast

Episode: "A Blue Tsunami Is Forming"

Date: December 4, 2025
Hosts: Luke, Tim, Chris, Zach, Equipment Guy

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Episode Overview

This episode dives deep into the surprising implications of the recent Tennessee 7th congressional district special election, where Democrat Afton Bain dramatically closed a massive Republican gap. The hosts break down what this means for Democrats nationwide, speculate about a possible "Blue Tsunami" in the upcoming midterms, and discuss Trump’s increasingly erratic behavior during his second term. The conversation weaves through electoral strategy, healthcare failure, economic populism, and the right’s messaging and missteps. As always, the tone is irreverent, honest, and bitingly funny.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Tennessee 7th Congressional District Special Election

• Afton Bain’s Strong Showing

  • Democrat Afton Bain lost by eight points in a +22 Trump district—a result far better than expected.
  • Her openly progressive campaign, with endorsements from the Democratic Socialists of America and AOC, outperformed historical Democratic runs in the district.
  • Chris highlights rural voters’ disengagement:

    "Typically what this kind of thing looks like is... you get somebody who can put their name on the ballot, and they do that and they go through the motions... That this ever became a thing... is only because of how effective Afton Bain was in making the case." [01:06]

• Electoral Implications

  • Luke explains the broader impact:

    "If those numbers hold next year in the midterms, this will be a bigger Democratic wave than we saw in 2018." [03:51]

  • The GOP was forced to spend millions to defend a safe seat, stretching their resources thin and possibly prompting more retirements.

2. Republican Weakness and Strategic Toll

• Resource Drain

  • The GOP had to spend disproportionate amounts to defend reliably red seats, while the Democrats spent less.
  • Chris:

    "They spent $5 million to defend it 12 months later in a special election. If they're spending $5 million to DEF seats in Tennessee... this is not sustainable." [06:06]

• Low Turnout & Leaking Support

  • Van Epps (GOP) saw a stunning 92% drop in turnout in Nashville’s Davidson County compared to Trump’s 2024 numbers, indicating waning enthusiasm for Republicans. [14:29]
  • Independents are moving away from Trump in droves, as Zach notes:

    “His numbers of independents are fucking atrocious. Like mid-20s, terrible… now he would get just obliterated.” [15:20]

3. Policy Realities: Healthcare and Economic Headaches

• Healthcare Catastrophe

  • ACA plans in Tennessee saw massive price hikes ($16,000 per person annually), placing healthcare out of reach for rural families.
  • Chris:

    "It's unspeakable. I mean, you just don't get it. You just don't have health insurance, right?" [10:33]

  • Skepticism about insurance and unions is widespread among rural working-class voters, feeding Republican narratives.

• Affordability Crisis & Tariff Nonsense

  • Trump’s supposed plan to replace income tax with massive tariffs is lampooned:

    “Federal income tax is going to be gone. He’s going to pay for it with... tariff income.” [12:42-12:49]

  • The group points out that real solutions to inflation (unlike GOP talking points) are hard and require wage growth, not fantasy policies.

4. Trump’s Erratic Behavior and GOP Chaos

• President’s Meltdowns

  • Trump is described as fluctuating between denial, rage, and disengagement amidst poor polling and media scrutiny, with the hosts painting a picture of a president out of touch and increasingly unmoored.
  • Chris, about Trump's late-night posting:

    "If they posted 150 times on the Internet at one in the morning, I would immediately call a doctor and say that you are not well." [18:32]

• Failed Messaging

  • Trump's contradictory claims on affordability and feeble economic boasts draw ridicule.

5. The Broader Picture: Populist Shift and 2026 Midterm Prospects

• Momentum for Progressivism

  • Hosts agree that the electorate is primed for economic populism: universal healthcare, progressive taxation, and government intervention.
  • Luke:

    “…the path for Democrats to have a tsunami in the midterms next year is economic populism.” [36:14]

• Winning Outside the Cities

  • Special elections like Tennessee's show progressives can make gains everywhere, not just in urban strongholds.
  • Downballot effects—flipping state legislature and local seats—are just as critical as House races.

6. Foreign Policy & Right-Wing Fantasies

• Venezuela War Talk

  • The hosts joke darkly about the administration’s saber-rattling towards Venezuela and the right-wing conspiracy theories tying mineral grabs, immigration scare tactics, and outright racism.
  • Discussion of anti-war sentiment among MAGA voters, and the limitations it might place on Trump’s hawkish tendencies.

• Absurd Conspiracy Theorizing

  • Elon Musk’s viral claim that Obama air-dropped 80,000 Somali immigrants to help Ilhan Omar win in Minnesota becomes a running gag.
    • Luke mocks the scenario:

      “So Barack Obama… decided that there was a district, a congressional district in Minnesota that just… wasn’t blue enough. And his idea was to go to Somalia… and said, all right, guys, we’re going to Minnesota. And they just like all run in, and then…they give them parachutes and just like, shove them out in the middle of the night…” [43:05]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the surprise Tennessee result:
  • “She's even endorsed by the DSA, which is kind of crazy.” – Luke [03:33]
• On GOP resource drain:
  • “They can’t go out and drop five times the normal spend on every seat to defend it next year.” – Chris [06:44]
• On healthcare in rural America:
  • “You think they’ve got $40,000 laying around so they can have a $5,000 deductible plan? It’s so fucked insane.” – Chris [10:46]
• On Trump's social media activity:
  • “If they posted 150 times on the Internet at one in the morning, I would immediately call a doctor…” – Chris [18:32]
• Mocking right-wing conspiracy:
  • “Barack Obama… got a bunch of, what, like, cargo jets and said, all right, guys, we’re going to Minnesota. And they just, like, all run in, and then… they give them, like, parachutes and just, like, shove them out in the middle of the night…” – Luke [43:05]
• On economic populism and Democrats’ message:
  • "This is the way. There's no other way. You have to pivot hard this direction because it's right." – Zach [37:38]
• On American political memory:
  • "Because people do have the memory of a goldfish, we will be able to exploit that at least in the first round… in the next big election." – Chris [28:59]

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Important Timestamps

• 00:33 – Start of Tennessee 7th District special election discussion
• 01:06 – Afton Bain’s campaign and why her showing matters
• 03:51 – Possible size of a coming Democratic wave
• 06:06 – GOP’s unsustainable campaign spending
• 10:33 – ACA cost explosion in Tennessee
• 14:29 – GOP turnout collapse in Davidson County
• 15:20 – Trump’s loss of independents
• 17:00 – Trump’s disengaged schedule, cabinet meeting anecdotes
• 18:32 – Trump’s social media meltdowns
• 24:49 – Discussion of tariffs and pricing illusions
• 36:14 – Shift to economic populism as Democratic strategy
• 43:05 – Satirical breakdown of right-wing conspiracies about Somali immigrants in MN

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Episode Tone & Style

The episode is relentlessly conversational, blending political analysis with biting sarcasm and plenty of expletives. The hosts roast both Republicans and the limitations of current Democratic messaging, but always circle back to the idea of tactical hope—and a specific vision for a more progressive future.

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For Listeners Who Missed It...

This episode is both a breakdown of a surprising, under-the-radar special election and a freewheeling discussion of the current state of US politics. The hosts argue that major shifts are underway—Democrats are gaining ground in improbable places, and the right is flailing. While there’s plenty of gallows humor, the message is clear: we’re living through a potential political realignment.

Transcript

[Tim]

Foreign.

[Luke]

Hey, everybody. Welcome back to the Find out podcast. You just got the five of us today, and we got lots of stuff to talk. I know, I know. The guest.

[Chris]

These guys let down.

[Tim]

Oh, God, a bunch of lame Os.

[Luke]

It's always nice to have someone hold them accountable.

[Chris]

Um, well, white guys, let's talk.

[Luke]

Just. Just spewing. First topic is that by. By now everybody knows that. That the Tennessee seventh race was called for the Republican Afton Bain ended up losing by about eight points, I believe. But that is actually. And I did a video about this yesterday. This is actually good news for Democrats.

Who wants to take it first? Or do you agree with me? Is this good news? Because it feels like good news to be.

[Tim]

No, I mean, it's good news. It's just not great news.

[Zach]

Yeah, that's fair.

[Chris]

I mean, these are. These are the kinds of districts where I've lived my entire life, and so I'm used to this. And typically what this kind of thing looks like is. It's like Joe versus the volcano. Like, you just chuck a body into the lava and that's the, like, that's what happened. Nobody. You forget who even ran. Like, you don't. These are not contested seats in any election ever. When it's a 20 point margin, you just, you. You get somebody who, you know, can put their name on the ballot, and they do that and they go through the motions. They raise $12,000. You know, this cycle, they lose, and everybody says, you know, okay, that's what happens. That this ever became a thing. This wasn't even supposed to be a thing worth discussing. Like, a month ago, we knew, we all knew this was coming, but it was only because of how effective Afton B in talking to what is really almost entirely rural Tennesseans outside of Nashville. It's only because of how effective she was in making the case. And. And that this even was worth talking about, let alone something where it was like, holy, could we actually pull this off? So, you know, I don't think any of the insiders expected her to win, but when you start seeing polling in the single digits, you go like, is this maybe. Is this the. Is this the ceiling? But, you know, we're still living in reality, and there's still a lot of really difficult voters out there who have been lied to chronically for 50 and 60 years. And most of those people are the, you know, the rural voters that they're not listening to our podcast. They're not paying attention, you know, closely to the news. They're living their normal Lives.

[Luke]

And they should be.

[Chris]

Takes time to have.

[Equipment Guy]

We said Afton Bain's name on this podcast before.

[Tim]

Yeah, we talked about it last week.

[Zach]

Okay. All right. Yeah.

[Chris]

But I mean, she, she ran a phenomenal campaign. She's an awesome, awesome candidate. I hope we see more of her.

[Equipment Guy]

Because I, I was gonna say, I don't know that I have ever heard her name before. That's, that's how little I was aware that, that this. I, I knew there was race in what, the seventh District or whatever, but I, I don't think that most of our listeners are probably following this as closely as, as some of the hosts.

I like. I don't know what she ran on. I never saw a commercial.

[Luke]

So she, so she's actually quite progressive, I think, which was a really interesting. She's even endorsed by the dsa, which is the Democratic Socialist association, which is kind of, kind of crazy.

[Chris]

Yeah, AOC endorsed her. And like, she was not running from the left. She wasn't one of those.

[Luke]

And this is, this is a plus 22, meaning Donald Trump won, you know, a year ago with 22 points in that, in that district. Yeah. And the fact that we got it down to eight, eight and a half, which, that means that anything that is in the Republican plus 14 and below, theoretically is a gap. And I think this guy, Matt Whitlock, who was a McConnell guy for a long time and is on Twitter, basically said, like, if those numbers hold next year in the midterms, that this will be a bigger Democratic wave than we saw in 2018, which is when we saw the Democrats come back into power in the House, I think. Did we take their. I can't remember if we took the Senate or not, but we took the House. And this, they're like, already looking at this as being bigger than that. And that was a big night. I think Democrats gained 20, 25 seats. The shit night.

[Tim]

Yeah.

[Luke]

So it matters. And, you know, in the district, there were millions of dollars that were spent. And the Republican. I don't. The Republican House Committee or whatever it is, had to spend millions of dollars for Matt Van Epps.

[Chris]

Right.

[Luke]

And that's another reason why it's a win, is because every time you make Republicans spend money in a district that they should win, it's less money that they can put into those much closer races. And it's also, I think we're going to probably see some more Republican retirements because all of the, if you read the, the D.C. trade press, sadly, like I do, they are basically saying that it was a If it was going to be a single digit loss, right. That, that would be a worst case scenario for the Republicans.

[Chris]

Well that's how this seat got open because it was like, didn't this guy just get elected a year ago? Like, like less than a year. And so he, he, I was like did he get appointed? So I did some research on this yesterday and he just left for a private sector job. He just didn't want to be in the House. So he just fucked off midterm. Like he, he, he won and then like he couldn't even last the two year cycle. And so like yeah, they spent a million dollars to defend this seat last year. They spent $5 million to defend it 12 months later in a special election. If they are spending $5 million to DEF.

Seats in Tennessee. They're, they, they're the people, people who, who have money. They don't actually like just dumping it into a void. The people who are funding these campaigns. This is not sustainable. There are what, how many seats are there in the house? The Republic.

[Luke]

So 235.

[Chris]

Right. But like so 218 Republicans. I was doing the Republican math. 218 Republican seats that are all up for re. They can't go out and drop five times the normal spend on every seat to defend it next year.

[Equipment Guy]

How much did the Democrats go up in spending?

[Chris]

I don't know how much it went up. I mean it surely went up a thousand fold but they still were well overspent. It looks like it was like two and a half, maybe 3 million spent by the left and over 5 million total spent by the right including multiple visits from Donald or multiple appearances, virtual and in person from Trump. Mike Johnson went there. This is like they pulled out every stop to save a 22 point solid red drag. No, no, Trump can't be, I mean Trump, Trump probably was a net drag honestly here. But, but they can't, they can't get Trump to appear multiple times. Can you imagine what that would do to his poor health?

[Zach]

You know, be the end. We should, let's hope for it then.

[Tim]

He should do it.

[Chris]

218 visits.

[Zach]

It's impossible. I mean it's, it's when you couple that with this just nightmare that is like he's just having a nightmare messaging perspective from affordability. When you put those two things together, this Republican party has to be shaking at the potential of how bad this could be. I mean especially when what we saw, what you know, a few weeks ago, really it was just like eye opening how bad this could really be for Them. So I don't know what they're going to do. Like, strategically, it's so difficult with the House because like you have, you know, every single race is up. What are you going to do? You have to pick and choose, you know, and there are, the other element of it is like, I don't think they're going to be very good at fundraising in general. Like they have a bunch of dissatisfied maggots.

[Tim]

What do you mean? The people who don't have the money to put food on the table aren't going to be getting their pocketbooks out to donate to some no name Republican candidate they've never heard of.

[Zach]

They're.

[Chris]

Do you think.

[Tim]

A Democrat hoax, like.

[Luke]

Wait, sorry, say that again, Chris.

[Equipment Guy]

I'm wondering if, if Elon Musk is going to be anywhere near as involved in this election as he was in the last because he, he got his.

[Tim]

He got his, he got to go in and steal all the information and.

[Zach]

He got to, yeah, he's fire the.

[Tim]

Inspectors general and he's, he lost.

[Equipment Guy]

Protect himself from regulations. So he still needs Republicans to stay in the House and Senate.

[Zach]

Yeah, I saw an interview with him like on TikTok the I think today where he was asked, you know, about his involvement in politics and they're like, do you think it was a bad thing? He's like, yes, I think I did. It was like a, and drag on my life and I'm out. That was pretty much his perspective.

[Chris]

I think he just negotiated like a trillion dollar payout right from Tesla. I, I, I'm, I don't have the fine print in front of me. I don't think I, I know I will ever get done that, but I'm.

[Zach]

It'S actually the opposite of what you'd expect. Like, it's actually being like, you need to be way better and if you are, we'll make you a trillionaire. But like he needs to literally 8x what Tesla does now to just see any of that money. Like, well, it's all nonsense just to incentivize him to be better at his job.

[Chris]

That makes sense. Where I'm thinking is like, I wouldn't be surprised if they said like, please don't go back into the political arena.

[Tim]

And stop doing Nazi everything 100.

[Chris]

So I, if he wants that, he's going to be needing to focus really, really hard on his day job like he didn't do for the first half of this year.

[Zach]

Yeah, no, he's, he's focused on Tesla. I mean, but look, even with or without Him, Tesla's. Because they have a thousand competitors, so Elon Musk, you know, they're all doomed. It's great. I mean, we're the slow doom. It's great.

[Chris]

It's. It's. This is just the cost of, of accountability. You know, they. They. They asked for all the power. They took it. And now I was looking at the. The ACA facts for Tennessee. 611,000 Tennesseans are on subsidized ACA plans. 650 or so thousand in the marketplace in Tennessee. 611,000 on. On subsidized plans. Their average increase, average increase is $16,000 per person per year.

[Equipment Guy]

Jesus.

[Chris]

So if you've got a family in Tennessee on an ACA plan, four people. I mean, you're talking $40,000, right? Thousand dollars a year. It's. It's like. It's unspeakable. I mean, you just don't get it.

[Luke]

You just don't have health insurance, right?

[Chris]

You just don't. Yeah, you think that's Linden, Tennessee, with a thousand people in one stoplight? You think they're. They got $40,000 laying around so that they can have a $5,000 deductible plan? It's so fucked insane. And this is, this is the Republican health care plan concepts of the Republican.

[Zach]

Their concept is always like, just. Well, as long as they have catastrophic coverage, it's fine. It's like, yeah, but regular life.

[Tim]

You know, the interesting thing for me, though, is, like, when you go down there, I don't know if any of you have spent, like, real. I guess Zach lives in the South. Like, if you talk to a lot of, like, the construction workers, laborers type shit, they shit on health insurance the same way they shit on. On fucking unions. They've convinced themselves that it's. It's, you know, it's actually a hoax. They're just stealing money from you. You don't need it. Just run out the hospital. When you get hurt, after you get treated, don't give them your id. Like, there's a lot of people who think that way.

[Zach]

It's true. I mean, you know, luckily I'm in a blue city, so I don't get exposed to a lot of that stupidity. But, you know, when you amble out into the outskirts, you're like, oh, they exist. They really exist. It's Trump compounds and a bunch of bullshit. You know, it's crazy, but yeah. I mean, I don't know. At a certain point, this is sort of what I've been saying over and over again. Of like they have to feel the pain. It's just part of the fucking process. And here we are. And unfortunately we're going to have a lot of people that, you know, are probably listeners and people that are on the right side of this whole thing where they're going to get hurt too. And that's the downside of it. But like, we have to learn our lesson here. We can't just like hear a cute little sales pitch from a fucking orange moron and go, sounds great, let's do it. And then, you know, not pay the price for not paying attention to the details, which you spend five minutes, you'd figure out he's a fucking con man.

[Luke]

Well, I think that it's becoming very, very clear that the, the climate for in the midterms next year is not going to be favorable to him whatsoever. And he is doing all kinds of crazy right now because his polling numbers are sitting in the mid-30s, which is the.

[Tim]

He's going to get rid of income tax. Didn't you hear? Oh yeah, federal income tax is going to be gone. He's going to pay for it with.

[Chris]

Tariff income, replace it with tariff income.

[Tim]

Which the most form of taxes, which.

[Luke]

I think I saw something that it was like, in order to cover that, the tariffs would have to be like 8 to 10 times higher than they already are or some sort of.

[Tim]

I've heard enough. Sign it into law. Do it.

[Zach]

I paid a tariff today. I have coming for like I was ordering stuff from my house, coming from Europe and it's like, you need to pay this tariff or your ain't getting delivered. I'm like, oh cool. That's great. I love it.

[Tim]

Cool. Awesome.

[Luke]

You know what though? I actually appreciate them putting the tariff in that way instead of just like working it into the.

[Tim]

If everybody, if Amazon would put tariff charge at the bottom of every fucking order, people would lose their goddamn minds.

[Chris]

Yeah, yeah, they. Well, and they thought about it and then they backed off. I'm like, why'd you back off?

[Tim]

They had it for a little while.

[Chris]

Do the thing.

[Zach]

Well, DHL does it, I'll tell you that.

[Luke]

So go ahead.

[Chris]

So before we get off Tennessee because Yes, Zach, like, I love what you called out that, you know, they, they do have to feel the pain, I think. You know what we hear in our comments and what we hear from people, a lot of the more cynical side is like, yeah, but they're never going to flip their vote. In Davidson county, which is the home home to Nashville, Matt van Epps got 9,000 votes Jesus. Donald Trump got 102,000 votes in Davidson county in 2024, a 92% drop in turnout for Van Epps. And of course, Bain is from Nashville, but it's still like Republican Nashville, still a Republican in Nashville. So a 92% drop in voter turnout. So these people.

I got to pull it up. So Bain got 33,000 so far. They're 95% in. So she got 33,000 compared to Van App's 9,078 to 22 point victory. She shifted the most liberal county in Tennessee another 20 points to the left.

[Luke]

Right.

[Chris]

Because of the suppressed turnout. And that's, that's what I want people to remember is a lot of people are just not going to go vote to support, especially in the midterms, which is, it's a referendum on the party in power always. There are millions of people because turnout was way down in Tennessee. Even though this got a lot of attention, a lot of money, turnout was way down. There are millions of people who are just going to say, you know, I'm not going to vote for the, the liberal leftist woke whatever, but I'm also not going to get off my ass and go and vote to advance this agenda that continually fucks me over.

[Zach]

Yeah. And I mean, like the main, like, I don't even focus on Republicans. I could give a fuck about them. It's the independence that I'm interested in because, like, really, if you look at, like Tim said, like, his numbers are in the mid-30s overall, but his numbers of independents are fucking atrocious. Like mid-20s, terrible. And like when you look at the, the exit, the exit polls for the election, he won Independence or tied in certain places, but it was a close race and now he would get just obliterated. And that's, that's the make or break.

[Luke]

Well, and the final thing on Afton, I think, which is really important is that first of all, one, it just shows how hard it is to win gerrymandered districts. They do this on purpose to make it very difficult that they've actually split Nashville into three different congressional districts so that there is not a Nashville specific one. But the other thing with her is that she had made gains in every single county. So like, even in the Ruby, Ruby, ruby red places, she, she shrunk the margins. And this is important, this is going to be important, the midterms one, because, Rich, you're right that the special elections are funny and like, people just don't understand and they, they don't get as much. But next year or Next year, when all of the lower ballot elections are happening as well, you might. You might not win a congressional district, but you might pick off a state legislator or city council member. Like, these things matter greatly. So it's going to be really interesting. She ran a great campaign. Everybody should be super proud and very, very excited. Seems to say weird to be excited in a loss, but it is true. Like, the likelihood of her winning, that was like, almost. It would be almost impossible. So. But anyways, so, like, Republicans are freaking out today.

Donald Trump is oscillating between, like, saying that the affordability crisis is a Democratic hoax to sleeping in cabinet meetings, waking up and then yelling again and then dozing off again. This is the President of the United States, everybody. The guy who was very, very mad last week when the Times came out with an article that showed that his schedule has gotten shorter. All his stuff is during the day.

[Chris]

His day starts at like 12, 12.

[Luke]

11 or something like that. He wanders down or waddles down.

[Tim]

I could get on that schedule.

[Luke]

I know, right? And he got all mad about it. And then he had a cabinet meeting, what, Monday or Tuesday, and he's like, Marco Rubio's like, spouting off about how.

[Chris]

Great from like, a foot away from him.

[Luke]

That was the best.

[Equipment Guy]

Saying the president to try and wake him up.

[Luke]

Yeah. Really emphasizing the words you needed to.

[Chris]

Say, like gold or dictator. Like, those are. President is not the trigger word for Trump. You need to wake him up with.

[Tim]

Like, you just gotta go, sir, you're. The Epstein list got released. Wide awake.

[Chris]

Eugene Carroll's lawyer is on the phone. Fuck yeah.

[Luke]

Heart attack. But, like, you know that, you know, Trump knows that he is losing when he starts to. To just go crazy and throw things at the wall.

[Chris]

Right.

[Tim]

And like, all of these, like, schizo posting on social media.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Chris]

How many? 50 times. 150 posts. And in 60 minutes, like 1am that's crazy social.

[Luke]

So it's like you're not swaying anybody.

[Zach]

No.

[Tim]

With that.

[Luke]

Right.

[Chris]

I would call a doctor if. If either of my parents ever did that for any reason ever. It could be World War III. And if they posted 150 times on. On the Internet at one in the morning, I would immediately call a doctor and say that you, well, are not well.

[Luke]

It's like that meme, right? Where it's like they have this picture of this old lady in a walker and there's a young person and the old lady's like, saying something. In this case, be Donald Trump being like, the election was rigged and the young person's like, let's get you back to bed, grandpa.

[Tim]

Somebody come get their grandpa. God damn it.

[Chris]

Yeah, I know the, yeah, the affordability thing. I was, I was pulling up the receipts November 29, all caps. You know, everything is all caps. But he, he first, he reduced drug prices by 500, 600, 700%. Somebody tell the president you can't lower something more than 100%. Yeah.

[Luke]

Are the pharmaceutical companies paying us for.

[Zach]

These percentage of being awake clinical trials. It's Great.

[Tim]

Dropped by 80%.

[Chris]

So then he ends it.

[Equipment Guy]

Taiwan all gives you autism, so they should pay you.

[Luke]

Right, right. Still waiting for that lawsuit against the, the administration. Administration for.

[Chris]

Well, they backed off on that one coming. Yeah, somebody, somebody's gonna get sued or paid off eventually, but it'll never settled quietly. But, but like so then, but. Well, so that. Hang on. So then he ends it with, I am the affordability president. All caps. Talk loudly and proudly. President DJT, this is November 29th at 6 6am apparently he's.

And a whole like two days later he's in the cabinet meeting saying that the Democrat, that affordability doesn't mean anything to anyone, that it's like a fake word and that it's a total Democrat hoax.

What are we doing with it?

[Equipment Guy]

This is a man who thinks he invented the word groceries two years ago.

[Chris]

An old fashioned word.

[Zach]

Oh God. Well, I mean, look, if you look back to the beginning of Trump, back all the way back in 2017, he inherited a really good economy from Barack Obama and he just coasted on that shit for years and pretended like he did something. And that whole time then he had the excuse of, well, Covid fucked me in the end and nobody looked at him, you know, sideways from that shit. And then the economy, you know, the world economy fell apart because of COVID and he blamed Biden for it. And now he's inheriting what he was complaining about with Joe Biden and he has that. The truth of the matter is this guy has literally done nothing but damage to the economy, but the economies he's been dealing with have been so strong that it doesn't really matter. And now he's realizing, oh shit, I can't do anything. And now against the word, I can't fix it. The word doesn't mean anything anymore.

[Chris]

The word is attacking me.

[Luke]

Wasn't there an article in the Economist last, like last fall? I think it was before the election. And the Economist is not, not generally favorable to left leaning, no political. And they, they added the COVID was America's economy or America is the envy of the world. And it is because of what Biden and the Democrats in Congress did to get us out of the COVID disaster. And yes, that did spike inflation, but the other option was us falling off a complete cliff.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Luke]

And so, yes. And also our inflation was lower than almost the entire Western world.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Luke]

That were doing similar things. So recovered faster and recovered faster. Right. And like all. It's so funny because in the first term and the second term with Trump, all he had to do was sit on his fucking hands and he would add approval ratings in the 50% ranges above because, like, he would just coast off of Obama or coast off of Biden. And with COVID he had a. Like, I remember when that was all happening at the early, early, early stages, and he wasn't being super crazy. I was like, if he rallies the country around this, we're fucked.

[Zach]

Yep, he'll win.

[Luke]

And instead he went to his worst instincts.

[Chris]

Bleach.

[Luke]

Bleach. And then, like, he got Covid and he almost, like, died.

[Zach]

And then pulls off the mask.

[Luke]

Pulls off the mask. Like, no mask. With all the Secret Service agents in there, in the, in the truck or in the van, like. Yeah. And then lied about it. Right. They lied about how sick he was. And like, he was. There were moments, I think they said to his physician, said to him, and because he would. Didn't want to leave the. The Oval, and they said to him, you have two choices. One, you walk out of here right now, or two, in about four hours, you're going to walk out, or you're going to go out of here on a gurney. Which image do you want? And that's true. That happened. And then he went.

[Tim]

I wish.

[Luke]

And then that's when he lumbered. When he lumbered up, up to Marine One.

[Tim]

And I would like to thank whoever gave him Covid, however that happened.

[Luke]

I mean, they were all giving it to each other. I mean, Herman Cain died because of a Trump rally.

[Zach]

Yes, he did.

[Chris]

Forgot about Herman.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Luke]

Remember that guy? Do you know they kept tweeting from his account also afterwards, and people are like, how is. He's what, he's dead?

[Chris]

Who is probably more coherent after? That's all right.

[Luke]

But anyways, like, what? But what's crazy, right, is there is no. They have no plan. They have nothing to solve this problem because you can't.

[Tim]

There is no solution.

[Zach]

You want deflation. I mean, you need deflation, which means.

[Luke]

You need to, like, you need a recession.

[Zach]

But, like, here's the thing. Even If a Democrat came in, they wouldn't be able to solve it either. There is not an actual solution. The only way you can actually offset this. There's two ways. One is you have an economic disaster and everything deflates and then fine, nobody wants that. Or two, you come up with a set of systems to make wages grow to catch back up to the inflation growth.

[Chris]

That's. We. We don't want prices to just cut in half. Like, there are a lot of bad. Oh, Tim, are you okay?

[Zach]

Tim's knocking.

[Luke]

I am doing a horrible job.

[Zach]

Tim is hammer drunk.

[Tim]

I'm just dropped midday on a Wednesday. No better time for it.

[Equipment Guy]

Just going the champions five o' clock somewhere.

[Luke]

I mean, there's.

[Equipment Guy]

There's a lot of good breweries in Brooklyn. I would be doing the same thing if I were there, right?

[Luke]

Oh, I know. Oh, I know.

[Chris]

Just there.

Was an early bird special.

[Luke]

The. What the hell. No, I had something actually important. There is one thing we could do to lower prices. Get rid of the tariffs.

[Zach]

Yes, that will help a bit.

[Equipment Guy]

That would be an overnight lowering of.

[Luke]

Prices, which is a tax on concern.

[Tim]

That the end game is though. Well, not. It's. It's like the dumbest end game ever. You know, like right before midterms, he just access all the tariffs and all the slack jobs go, oh, the prices are. Prices are better.

[Chris]

That would be a smart political strategy. And I don't think he's going to do that because he's so pissed that the Supreme Court is probably going to overturn about 2/3, 75% like Costco is preemptively. They already preemptively sued the government to recover all of the tariffs they paid. And now there's a couple of other, I think bumblebee tuna of all places. Like, got to get the fucking tuna from somewhere, I guess.

[Luke]

I have seen those prices go up, by the way, which sucks.

[Chris]

Yeah. I mean, are you telling me they don't have albacore tuna in North Dakota? I can't buy American tuna, I'm pretty sure in the Missouri River.

[Zach]

I mean, the thing about all of it is, like, when people say they want prices to go down, what they actually mean is they want prices to go back to the way they were before that huge inflation spike. And that is never going to happen. That's not how it works. Even if they slash tariffs, like, you'll get like a teeny little. Because tariffs are also. It's not like the second you slash them, the whole market reacts and all of a sudden prices drop. It takes time and months and months and they can't time it. And every industry is different. He just fucked the whole thing up. So it's like you can't turn the.

[Tim]

Corporations just might not lower prices.

[Equipment Guy]

Yeah, they know you're going down. That's what happened after the pandemic.

[Luke]

Never go down.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Luke]

Yes.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Luke]

So if, if, if the Supreme Court rules them illegal and overturns them and there's any sort of drop in prices whatsoever, I actually think he's completely screwed because then Democrats will go, look, they forced him to get rid of these, his own. And then there was a 5, 10% decrease.

And he lied to you.

[Tim]

Shit.

[Zach]

Right.

[Luke]

Well, that's what we're here for, guys, I guess.

[Chris]

Well, that's it. Like, we, we need Americans to be smarter. And I know that's a dangerous sentence to utter, but like the correct sentence. We, we have to. Stores, they buy tons of shit way in advance. Like they ordered a ton of shit before the tariffs took place so that they could try to drag this out as long as possible so they wouldn't have to push it on people. The same is going to be true when the opposite happens. They still, like, even if they get the money back, they're not just going to say, okay, well, now it's $50 off of every television or $200 off. It's going to take, you know, months. And we need to. Months, if not years. Just like we saw inflation actually flatlined in about early 2023.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Chris]

But prices had already gone up so much and people were so pissed about it that it was like, well, prices are too high. Even though if you actually look like wage, wage growth was outpacing inflation for the last last year and a half of Biden's term. And, and we just, you know, the left didn't get that through to people because it's like, well, we understand prices are still too high. No, you have to have the complicated argument and you have to ask people to understand it.

[Luke]

That's the problem. It's, that's, that's tough though, right? Because like, if you, even if, let's say you got a 3 to 5% cost of living increase in your job.

[Zach]

Right.

[Luke]

You barely feel that. You don't even really know it's there. But if you go and your eggs are $6 a dozen, right. Compared to $3 a dozen, even though you're ahead of the game. Right. You're like, that's bullshit. And that is a very, very hard thing to get past.

[Zach]

It's, I mean, like, it Just shows Americans inability to understand budgeting their lives. It's the same reason why you look at like Democratic social getting on. Because like, well, it's so expensive. It's like, yeah, but you're paying out of pocket for a ton of that this would cover. And they just can't compute the idea that like taxes are just a part of the bigger picture. Just like the out of pocket costs are part of the bigger picture. They don't give a shit. They just want to see it on the piece of paper go, well, I make more money. It's like, yeah, where is it going? You know, nobody knows how to answer that question.

[Luke]

No, it's tough.

[Zach]

It's frustrating.

[Equipment Guy]

Yeah.

[Tim]

Really frustrating.

[Luke]

Maybe, maybe, maybe we need like, I think like one of our early episodes we talked about there needs to be some sort of financial literacy. Yes. In this country that there's not.

[Chris]

Well, I think because people do have the memory of a goldfish, we will be able to exploit that at least in the first round, in the, in the next big election, you know, either in the midterms and in 2028. But all we have to do is say, do you want us to come in and say that we're going to fix it on day one? Like Donald Trump said, how did that work out? I'm going to fix it on day one. Is that the argument you want America, like, it'll be so easy. I'll end all of the wars and I'll fix inflation on day one. Do you want us to just fucking lie to you? Because look at how well that worked out the last four years, or do you want to slow down and understand that this is a big fucking mess that we're in and it's going to take like a couple of cycles of good leaders to iron this out. Please don't go back to the other side halfway through and, and undercut us again because that's what happened.

[Luke]

So what do you, what do you.

[Equipment Guy]

Guys think the chances are that we start bombing Venezuela?

[Luke]

Pretty high.

[Equipment Guy]

I, I think at this point like.

[Tim]

White House really something's going to give it.

[Zach]

Yeah. They really want to do it. But I think a lot of people are telling like this is dumb as fuck. What are you doing? You know, But I think it's 50. 50.

[Luke]

I don't even get it. I like what, what is the, I.

[Chris]

Mean, well, I get bomb the coin.

[Luke]

Fields or oil doesn't even make sense because like why wouldn't you just do like. Because the cost of a, of the military exercise of Venezuela to Capture the oil in the hundreds of millions, if not billions of dollars. So, like, you're not, you're not actually making the cost cheaper when you control the oil.

[Tim]

I get.

[Luke]

It's a distraction. And like, you know, there's fentanyl there, Tim.

[Tim]

There's just insane amount of fentanyl.

[Zach]

Exactly, man.

[Equipment Guy]

Donald Trump is obsessed with the idea of getting minerals. Remember when he was talking about Greenland?

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Luke]

That was all about minerals.

[Chris]

Yeah.

[Equipment Guy]

And Ukraine. Like the deal that he proposed, that Russia proposed, that he just signed, not literally, but like adopted. It was all a mineral grab. Like, that's why Jared Kushner went to Moscow, so that Jared Kushner can sign another 2 billion dollar deal with a fucking autocrat. And Donald Trump doesn't. I don't think he accepts the fact that he is not going to live forever. And he, I believe, sees these mineral grabs as enriching himself personally. He doesn't give a shit about America. He doesn't give a shit about the American economy. He gives a shit about Trump and, And that's it.

[Luke]

I just don't. I'm gonna say, I'm saying it's less than 50. 50. I just, like, I don't. I actually.

He doesn't care what happens, but, like, I've. We've seen him get close to the edge and then back down.

[Chris]

Right?

[Luke]

Like, I mean, he's done some crazy shit, right. When he, when he droned the, the Iranian General Soleimani, which could have escalated a full war. And actually there's an argument to be made that the Iranians shot down that passenger jet by accident because they were so trigger happy and scared after that. But that's a, that's a hard one.

[Equipment Guy]

Well, they, they did fire missiles at and injured over 100 service members. Donald Trump then made fun of for having headaches.

[Tim]

Right.

[Equipment Guy]

Had traumatic brain injuries because he doesn't give a shit.

[Chris]

It's inconvenient.

[Luke]

I just like. But there is, Yeah, I, There is a fairly strong anti war, like, thread through this MAGA crowd. Right. Like, so it's, it doesn't. I don't. Politically, like, yeah, there's a rally around the flag kind of now. Not quite like it used to be, but like, yeah, that, that's a hard. When you say no new wars and then you do that. I just, I don't, I don't know.

[Zach]

He thinks it fits his narrative strategy. That's, I think, his mistake. And I think he's being convinced that it's not true because a few different things. One is Venezuela fits his immigration narrative, right? Like there's a whole, there's a whole bunch of folks coming from there and they're, you know, poisoning America, whatever. So that's that. He also accused Venezuela of being a big player in the Dominion. Voting machines bullshit where, you know, so that plays into that narrative.

[Luke]

How did that even come up?

[Zach]

But it does and that, that matters. He also tried to regime change Maduro in his first term and failed. So he's trying to make up all these different things, sort of fit where he wants to play. But when you get to the core, it's like, what are you doing here? There's nothing. And if you even take the Dr. Drugs angle, it's like, if you really want to stop drugs, focus on Mexico and focus on China manufacturing fentanyl. I mean, he did try to do that with tariffs to a certain degree, but like, that's just not going to work, you know.

[Luke]

Well, I, I would actually argue, I mean, I think you're right, but I would argue that the best, you know, how you want to stop drugs from coming into the country, get people in the United States to not be doing the drugs right, have treatment facilities and, and therapies and like lower the demand and lower the demand and now you're not going to eliminate it. And like, I'm not talking about like marijuana. Like, I don't like that should be legal legalization. But like fentanyl is a real problem, right? Opioid addiction is a real problem. Like, why are we not. And like if you are a poor, if you are a poor or working class American family, you cannot afford rehab. No, you can't.

[Zach]

Definitely not. I mean, my, this is where I like, I end up being way more Republican than you guys were. Like, I would be completely fine if we made a joint deal with the Mexican government to go. We will help you with our military, just absolutely obliterate cartels. Like, we will go.

[Chris]

I'd be fine with that.

[Zach]

Yeah. I mean, I think that a lot.

[Chris]

Of that's a joint effort, I think is fine.

[Zach]

Like I.

[Chris]

Teamwork makes the dream work, right.

[Zach]

Even if you have, you know, little, little, you know, similar to what they're pretending is happening with Venezuela. You have like little groups of people and you see them out in the field, blow them the up if you can confirm their, their drug dealers. Like, I think we can take a much more aggressive stand tactically on the root cause, which is really Mexico for the most part. But we don't because Trump is underthinking it and Democrats are a little too afraid to pull the trigger on like this and nothing gets done.

[Luke]

But I actually have no, I mean, I mean there could be some of that. I just don't know if the CIA, you know, yeah, they do undercover shit, but I don't if there is, if there was like very clear evidence of a large scale facility or something that was doing that, I don't necessarily have any problem with that. But I guess I'm saying is that we generally just look at half of the picture and not the other half. Right. And, and I actually think there is such a huge, like the amount of people, men in particular, that are have addiction issues, whether it's alcohol, whether it's drugs, whether it's pills, is so vast in this country and we never talk about it. And like that is, that is one of the things. And I really would like to see Democrats talk more about this. Like that, like, especially in rural America would be huge because we, you know, the whole thing in Ohio with the bullshit about the.

The immigrants eating cats and dogs and whatever. But like the true story there is that those businesses want those workers because a lot of the people that are there do have drug addiction problems and those things. And so like we have to solve these things. And like, so it, I actually think it's, I think it's a mix of both. I don't actually have any problem with disrupting drug cartels. Yeah, no, I don't have to do it. I don't know who I am.

[Zach]

But like that's fair.

[Luke]

But, but like I think we have to have a more serious conversation in this country about addiction and how to help people get out of that in a way that wouldn't bankrupt them forever. And I think that leads me to a transition of, you know what I would argue, and I want to hear what you guys think. And I think we saw, weirdly enough, James Carville talk about this, that the path for Democrats to have a tsunami in the midterms next year is economic populism. And what I mean by that, because that can mean a lot of things, is I think the country is ready. Tariffs, more tariffs, more tariffs. I think the country is ready for some version of universal health care discussion. I think that, I think there is a more active role that the government can play in things like, you know, and as that addiction would be part of that problem or that solution. More progressive taxes on wealthy Americans, including on investments, which is a thing that Biden actually talked a fair amount about. And because a lot of people just don't Know that a lot of rich people just make all their money off dividends and they're taxed at a lower rate, which is complete horseshit. And I understand there's an argument that's like, you make it lower so that more people invest and da, da. But like, that's not really true.

[Chris]

That's kind of just another trickle down.

[Luke]

It's just a trickle down. I think people who come up with these solutions, I think is going to be very popular. And actually Afton Bain is a perfect example of that because she ran a very progressive campaign in a deeply, deeply conservative district. It has outperformed literally every Democrat that has ever run there.

[Zach]

Yeah, no, I think you're right. I mean, I disagreed with the majority of these things four years ago, eight years ago. Like, I didn't like Bernie Sanders stuff, all that. I think that the time has come to get over it for a lot of, like, moderate Democrats. Just accept it. This, this is the way. There's no other way. You have to pivot hard this direction because it's right. I mean, look, there's a bunch of evidence that's going to go well, but there's a bunch of evidence going to go poorly. Focus on the evidence that's good and just fucking jam it down their throat like Trump does. I mean, it's not, it's not a hard sell.

[Chris]

The only, the only argument that they have is, well, then all of the successful people will leave. Where are they going to go? Every other country has higher tax rates on the wealthy.

[Luke]

Oh, I know, I know.

[Chris]

Than we do Epstein Island.

[Luke]

Epstein. No. Venezuela.

[Chris]

Venezuela.

[Luke]

That's the plan. That's the plan. Trump is going to bulldoze.

Venezuela in order so the rich people can go there and build their casinos.

[Chris]

Right.

[Zach]

I love.

[Chris]

Perfect. Can we put all of the billionaires in Venezuela and then attack Venice?

[Luke]

This whole notion, this whole thing, because this happened in New York City with the Bamdani stuff. This. Like there was. Yeah. All the, all the millionaires and billionaires, and it's like the average millionaire or billionaire is paying 2. In Dani's plan, it's like $2,000. You're going to, you're going to leave the greatest city in the world over $2,000 when you already have more money than you know what to do with. It's complete bullshit.

[Chris]

Most people wouldn't notice $2,000 missing from their.

[Luke]

They make it in like an hour. It is nothing. In order to, like, either have free bus service for poor New Yorkers or to have. I don't Know what else he's.

[Chris]

I can't remember all the other things.

[Luke]

Childcare, child care. Right. Which is a huge, huge one. But I think, I think America's ready for it. And I think we've just tried the for profit model for so long now and the prices just keep going up. So why the hell are we relying on the insurance industry to provide healthcare when every other country that is similar to us has already figured it out?

[Zach]

Lobbyists.

[Luke]

Right, Right. No, no, no.

[Chris]

I mean, yes, yes, that's pretty straight. Yeah, yeah, no, I was, I was running the numbers on this, I don't know, maybe six, eight months ago. I think the, maybe the most compelling argument for single payer coverage and frankly a lot of the democratic socialist, boogeyman shit that, that we want is. If you just look at Canada, Canada's per capita gdp. Oh yeah, it was because Trump was wanted to make them a state. Do you guys remember that when they were going to be the 51st state?

[Luke]

Oh yeah, whatever happened to that?

[Chris]

Can I, let's bring it back. I want Canada. Let's, let's be honest. The per capita GDP in Canada, if they were the 51st state, it would be, I think the third lowest of every state in the country. Canada does not produce anywhere close to the economic output per person compared to the United States. It's something like, I want to say it's like $40,000 per person compared to like 80,000 here. And, and that's equivalent to about Mississippi. So if the whole country was just a whole bunch of Mississippi's, that's, that's essentially what Canada is doing. And Canada has universal health care. Canada has paid leave for parents. I think they get nine months, I think you get like federally funded nine months of family leave. If you have a new baby, it's not by your employer. You're not bound to the employer. You can do these things that we want with half of the economic output that we create if you just keep the wealth with the people who are creating it, instead of letting shareholders and CEOs and grifters snatch it from between the customer and the worker. That it's, it's an easier argument to reframe than, than we want it to be or than we've tried in the past.

[Luke]

They also have 200 million guns in Canada and nowhere near the mass shootings that we have because they have licensing, registration and training.

[Tim]

Crazy how that works.

[Chris]

They just don't have 300,000 aircraft carriers filled with plutonium tipped nuclear warheads. That's, that's where most of our money goes right now is if he just took our entire military budget and said, what if we just gave people food and health?

[Luke]

Our military budget is $1 trillion per.

[Chris]

Year, by the way. So fucking insane.

[Luke]

It's like, us. It's us at 1 trillion, and then it takes, what, maybe, Chris, you know, the next 10 or 12 of the next seven countries combined to get to.

[Equipment Guy]

Us, including China, Russia, one. Elon Musk, right?

[Tim]

Who, by the way, is currently spreading a fucking. He's spreading the fact that the lie that Obama airdropped 60,000 Somalis in Minnesota to elect Ilhan Omar.

[Luke]

What?

[Zach]

I threw him out of a helicopter, like, go.

[Luke]

Apparently.

[Chris]

Have fun personally. Obama was the pilot.

[Tim]

Million Views says that the far left imported voters to gain power. And it worked because Ilhan Omar wasn't even elected by Americans. She was elected by 80,000 Somalis that Obama dropped in Minnesota.

[Chris]

And they're all just voters. You drop them with a. With a.

[Tim]

Somebody get him out of his.

[Luke]

So let's. Let's. Let's workshop this for a second. So. So Barack Obama, who by all accounts hated the elections and, like, just wanted to run. Like, he's, like, doesn't like the political part of the job. He wanted, you know, decided that there was a district, a congressional district in Minnesota that just. Just wasn't blue enough. And his idea was to go to Somalia.

[Chris]

That's where he was born.

[Luke]

Right, right. His neighboring country, like this countryman. And probably the birth certificates there, right?

[Tim]

And birth certificate must be there.

[Luke]

Got a bunch of, what, like, cargo jets and said, all right, guys, we're going to Minnesota. And they just, like, all run in, and then, like, they give them, like, parachutes and just, like, shove them out in the middle of the night and magically they appear and, what, like, right outside?

[Tim]

I guess so. And then they could just go, like, right to the voting booths. I think. I think there must be, like, one of those shoots, like, a big, big slide that's, like, miles long. You jump out of the plane, through this slide, right into the voting booth. I don't know.

[Chris]

And there's the Dropbox, the mail.

[Tim]

The irony, though, is that nobody's saying, hey, wait a second, Elon, you're an. You're an African immigrant, too. I wonder why.

[Luke]

Hmm.

[Tim]

I wonder what could be the difference.

[Chris]

What is.

[Luke]

I just can't imagine.

[Tim]

Can't imagine what the difference would be.

[Luke]

No. No.

[Tim]

Bastard.

[Luke]

God. Well, guys, you know, I think we're good for today. I think we've. I think we've covered A good ground. Unless. Luke, I'm going to put you on the spot again. Do you ever get fucked?

[Tim]

I mean, Trump can get one. Because that about Ilhan is terrible. I mean where he. He called her and Somali's garbage and said they're. And she's a. And.

[Luke]

Did he call her. He called her a. Yeah.

[Tim]

Yeah.

[Luke]

Well, he also. Did you see Christy Gnomes tweet where she like said it was basically like this racist rant about we don't want these like welfare entitlement. Like queen. What is she. They called it something that was basically. She was just saying I don't want any black or brown people here. Correct. I would. I would say that need.

[Tim]

And they need I remind everyone that Ilhan Omar has not shot a puppy in a gravel pit and bragged about it.

[Luke]

True, true. Yeah.

[Chris]

Ilhan Omar probably represents more people in her district than Kristi Noem was elected by as governor of South Dakota.

[Luke]

Was it South Dakota?

[Chris]

She's from South Dakota. I think her last election she won with like 202,000 votes or something like that.

[Tim]

Every time I hear something like number.

[Chris]

Of Americans who ever voted for her at one.

[Tim]

Every time I hear something like that, my response to anyone asking whether they should run for office just gets even stronger. Yes.

[Chris]

Right.

[Tim]

Because if these people please do. If she can be a governor, you can do whatever in the wide world of sports you want.

[Luke]

Well, today or no. Was it yesterday? Was giving Tuesday. And I actually my donation went to run for something which we talk about a fair amount. We should have. We should have Amanda Litman on at some point. But people should support run for something because they help train candidates and if we're going to have a blue tsunami, we got to have people up and down the ballot. So I. I think that's a great idea. You know what else is a great idea, guys?

[Tim]

Buying merch.

[Luke]

Buying beautiful, beautiful Made in America. Find out merch and actually miss Gifts.

[Chris]

Christmas gifts for all of your MAGA relatives.

[Luke]

I finally did what I said I was going to do. I have this look.

[Chris]

God damn it, Tim.

[Equipment Guy]

He's so good with that microphone.

[Chris]

Chris, can you send.

[Tim]

He's a good. He's a good mic.

[Luke]

Something's wrong. I know this thing that's broken.

[Equipment Guy]

Yeah, that's. It's my fault, guys. I'm the equipment guy. This is my bad.

[Luke]

Today's worst.

[Chris]

No, I'm just hoping that you're. That you're good enough to make up for Tim's deficiencies if you can. Just like there's got to be a really heavy.

[Equipment Guy]

I can't do it.

[Luke]

Hey, everybody. That just doesn't. That doesn't ring right. Like it's just.

[Equipment Guy]

Hey, hi everybody.

[Chris]

Hey.

[Equipment Guy]

Hey.

[Chris]

Is that how you hear.

[Tim]

Damn, am I hot?

[Luke]

That high pitch.

[Equipment Guy]

I. I mean hi everybody. In my ear holes. But I also have hearing loss. I've been around a lot of explosions so you know, don't take it personally.

[Tim]

Well, what I was trying to do and irreversible.

[Luke]

What I was trying to do is show that I have this lovely hoodie on and I also have its companion. Nice shirt on. But I'm gonna knock the micro.

[Chris]

He's doubled up with the two layers of the decal on the front. There's like no air is getting to the Middle East.

[Tim]

I was gonna say. You must be sweating. Like.

[Luke]

Oh yeah, that. That is.

[Equipment Guy]

That is a very thick logo. American made.

[Luke]

Yeah. By.

[Chris]

That's why it's thick.

[Luke]

Union artisans. Right? Union or union whatever. So you should go buy some for your MAGA friends or maybe just your progressive friends.

[Chris]

No, but you buy them for your MAGA family members and then tell them that it's like what like originalist. You know, like because we got the Isaac Newton thing right.

[Equipment Guy]

Like just tell them it's about around find out.

[Luke]

But they're not going to buy it because there's a picture of a scientist on it.

[Chris]

Do they know that that that could.

[Equipment Guy]

Be an old white supremacist. They don't know what Isaac. They don't know looks like.

[Luke]

Yeah, that's a very good.

[Equipment Guy]

Do you think they're going to look at a prism and recognize what what a prism looks like?

[Luke]

Shall we do a social contest where we ask our supporters to buy find out merchandise for their rel. Their MAGA relatives and film the reaction. Would that.

[Equipment Guy]

I think that would be hilarious.

[Tim]

I would like anyone does that, you get a free hoodie on me.

[Luke]

See? Did you guys hear that?

[Chris]

For when they inevitably burn the hoodie that you gave them once they find out. You know what?

[Luke]

I don't actually care what they do with the hoodie after they buy it as long as they buy it. So. But also so you can get those for your loved ones or not loved ones at findout podcast your hated your despised enemies if you want to with them. But also this week until.

Friday at close of business we are. We have our memberships on discount on substack. So they're 20 off right now. So for less than $5 a month you can help support us as we are continuing to build this company producing more shows, which we're getting closer and closer on announcements. I keep saying that probably January, two weeks.

[Zach]

Two.

[Luke]

Okay, two weeks.

[Tim]

Just like Trump.

[Luke]

Two weeks. Two weeks.

[Tim]

Two weeks, Tim.

[Luke]

Two weeks. Everything. Everything's gonna be solved in two weeks. But you can go to substack, and you have to go to the substack post that says, help move them. Help move men to the left. There is a discount code in there. You click on that, you'll get it for 480 instead of $6 a month. So, you know, you save like 12, 14 bucks a year and you help us a lot. So if you could do that, that'd be great. Until then, thank you, everybody. We'll be back with the show on Tuesday. Hopefully not too much crazy shit happens, but if it does, you know, we'll be here to talk about it. All right, we'll talk to you soon.