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Gov. J.B. Pritzker On Invoking the 25th Amendment & Trump's Iran TACO Deal
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Foreign. Hey everybody, welcome back to the Find out podcast. We've got a big show for you today. We have one of America's best governors with us. The Governor of Illinois, J.B. pritzker is with us. Governor, how are you today?
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
I'm doing great, Tim. How about you guys?
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Tim (Podcast Host)
We are, we are great. Now that we know that there was no complete wiping a whole group of people off the planet last night. So obviously like we're recording this on Wednesday. So Trump made this quote unquote deal last night and obviously it's the thing that everybody's talking about. We just want to get your initial reactions on what did we actually get? Because it doesn't look like very much to us.
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
It actually doesn't look like a deal. It looks like, you know, the people have talked about the fact that, that gas prices and oil prices should be much higher than they are right now. And one of the reasons is the traders, they call it the taco trade. You know, the Trump always chickens out, right, because they, they know that at some point the direction of the stock market going down, the direction of oil going up, cost of everything going up as a result of Trump's war of choice will ultimately lead him to back out. The problem, of course, is you can't easily back out of a war in the Middle East. Presidents, many presidents for 50 years have known this, but not Donald Trump. He got us into this thing. And you can't just sort of like slowly back out of the saloon and hope that, you know, everything will go back to normal. That's not what's going to happen. So we'll see. I mean, I'm glad that, that oil prices are coming down today and that the stock market is doing better today, but I just don't think that this is going to be as easy as Donald Trump would like it to be.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah, you know, if only there was Governor, if only there was some sort of deal that was in place at one point to keep Iran in check, you know, it would have been all right. But that guy who tore it up is obviously Donald Trump. And now all we have seen is prices go through the roof And I know, Governor, and I'm sure you're seeing this everywhere in Illinois. You know, all this guy has done has, is raise prices on the American public since day one, which he said on day one he would lower costs.
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
Right, exactly. And by the way, whatever you may think about Joe Biden, costs were coming way down under Joe Biden in the last year. But you know, he, he lost the election. Donald Trump said he was going to lower, he was going to eliminate inflation day one. And you've seen exactly the opposite. Everything, tariffs, right. The cost of oil, gas prices, everything, everything has gone up. And you go to the grocery store, beer costs more. You know, tomatoes, lettuce, everything at the grocery store costs more. Donald Trump has done so much damage to this economy. And now oil prices, which, you know, normalized for everybody should be let's say $70, 65, 70 are now at 95 and that's come down from 115 just yesterday. So we'll see what happens. But it's damaging to working families across the United States.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah, and tell us a little bit because I know you've talked a lot about tariffs and how they've affected the people in Illinois. But I would just love to hear from you because obviously, like I think it's something, what, something like seven, Every, every American is owed like seventeen hundred dollars from these tariffs. So tell me what has the effect been on the economy and the people in Illinois with these, these, these tariffs which are essentially just a back at backwards way of taxing people a hundred percent.
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
What you just said is true, that he has raised taxes seventeen hundred dollars per family. I mean he, he owes that back to people. The Supreme Court ruled that the tariffs are unconstitutional. So he's been collecting them for the last year. He needs to send them back to people. He, he not only is refusing to do that, but the Congress also is refute. His Congress is refusing to, to even give the money back to the businesses that are, are claiming damage because of these tariffs. So look, it has affected everybody's lives. These tariffs are, they are taxes. I know that he was claiming, telling people, oh no foreign countries or foreign governments or foreign companies are paying those tariffs. It's a complete lie. And this gets to the bigger issue in my view. You know, Donald Trump, I think half the time he knows he's lying. A quarter of the time, A quarter of the time he's lying and doesn't know it. And I would say the other quarter and maybe, maybe all of it, you know, he's operating with not a Full set of marbles. And so it's very disturbing to me because when you're threatening tariffs, you know, oh, he got mad because Canada didn't like being called the 51st state by him. And so what did he do? He increased tariffs by 50% on them.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Why?
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
To punish them. These are by some of our closest allies. I don't know about you, but every Canadian that I know is a pretty decent person.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Right.
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
I travel to Canada a lot. Like, a lot of Canadians come here. He's basically put a stop to all that, and now our relationship with Canada is terrible. So, I mean, that's just one example of what he's done. Europe, of course, doesn't trust us anymore. We. We could go through all the countries in the world, and the United States has been diminished all across the world, and the people of the United States are diminished as a result of it.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
The one that really got me was Brazil. That was when it just blew it wide open, when he was so mad about Bolsonaro getting, you know, having consequences for his actions that he's just like 50% tax on steak and coffee and everything that we get from Brazil, it had at the time. He's arguing that it was for, you know, our economic benefit and that we were going to bring in so much money. And then that was the first one where it was like, oh, no, it's just political warfare so they can protect his buddies and we're paying for it.
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
And I don't know if you know this, but. But, you know, Illinois people often don't think of Illinois as a farm state, but 75% of the territory of Illinois are farms where the number one producer of soybeans, the number two producer of corn in the United States, he has truly damaged farmers across our state as a result of the trade wars. So soybean farmers who normally ship a lot of their goods to Asia haven't been able to ship any of it because no orders are coming in from Asia. We're in a trade war. I give this as an example because in the face of all that, what did he do? He sent $40 billion to Argentina, right, For their farmers. For their farmers, and reduced the tariffs on their farmers shipping their goods where to Asia, where we should be shipping and selling our goods, our crops. So, I mean, anyway, I. Again, I, as, you know, I. There's something wrong with the man. I, you know, he's a.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
He.
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
He's a businessman who's lost money at every business he's been in, except being president, where he's making money now, right? Yep. So anyway, this is, this is what we're up against for the next three years, unfortunately.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Well, Governor, I want to ask you, because you are, I believe, one of the first people to call on the cabinet to invoke the 25th Amendment last year. And I think we've got a clip of it. We may play over this when we edit. But I assume you still feel the same way that, that they should absolutely do that. Because as you're saying, the, the guy, I mean, we talk. How much do we hear about Joe Biden's mental decline from everybody? And like Trump is not a guy's suggesting a genocide last night.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Oh, he didn't suggest it.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
So he said he was going to do it.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
I, he just said he was going to do it.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
I assume you are still on that they should do that, correct?
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
Oh, my, yes. And I mean, if, if we, listen, let's start with this. I mean, look, I get that people have, have said, well, you know, the people in the cabinet that he appointed, they're not likely to invoke the 25th a.m. maybe. But the American public needs to know this is not normal. I mean, for anybody who isn't paying a lot of attention, they need to understand there's something genuinely wrong with the President of the United States. He's taken us into two wars. We've seen deaths of American military service people and a lot of deaths of civilians in both Venezuela and Iran and elsewhere. And we've seen a whole lot of injuries of Americans. So I, I just, you know, when you think about it, I called for, for his removal under the 25th Amendment back in October. And I think we hadn't gone to war yet in Venezuela, we hadn't gone to war yet in Iran. And this issue of Iran, this is a, you know, one thing in our hemisphere, Venezuela, relatively weak country. I'm not suggesting he should have done it. I, I don't think we should be going and taking out dictators or, you know, leaders that we don't like all over the world. We'd be at war every single day with a new country. But Iran, you know, the reason this hasn't happened before is because it's hyper complex in the Middle East. It's not just, you know, a, a bilateral kind of, you know, relationship or war. It's multilateral. And the Iranians have proven it right. They've brought others into the war and, and of course, Israel. And so all I can say is that we, we have somebody who doesn't fully have, you know, all of his marbles. And, and he has his finger on the button. And right now, put, putting aside the nuclear button, he's got his fingers on the most powerful military in the entire world and he can do whatever he wants. Indeed, he wants to bring the military into our American cities and impact our elections in November. So I'm very, very worried about this guy whose mental health is in real question.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah, so. So there's one question that a lot of people keep asking about is what can Democrats do now? You know, you see a lot of people obviously, like I, I mean, some people are. We're very, very scared yesterday. Right. Like, I mean, there was. The way he, he put that truth social post out was potentially suggesting a nuclear launch when you're talking about wiping a whole group of people. So we saw people like, why aren't the Democrats doing more? Why aren't the Democrats doing more? Which obviously, like, knowing how Congress works, that's a challenging thing. But what should Democrats be doing right now to make sure that we are setting up for the biggest wipeout that anyone's ever seen in November?
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
Well, let's differentiate between elected Democrats in Congress versus just Democrats out there, voters out there who vote for Democrats. So look, there is a real challenge. We Democrats in General lost the 2024 elections. We do not have the House of Representatives. We do not have the Senate, we do not have the presidency, and of course we do not have the Supreme Court. These are all the major branches. These are the three major branches of government. We have nothing. We don't control anything. So there's only one, one estate, so to speak. That's that we can still operate from. And that's the people. And so I know that, you know, people say, well, no Kings protest. You know, nothing's really changed as a result of people showing up. That's not true. When people show up, when they protest, it makes a difference. More people want to show up. In this last no Kings protest was massive. And, and that scares the living daylights out of the Republicans in Congress. And you've already seen a few of them start to back away from the President of the United. Even Marjorie Taylor Greene left the Congress.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Right.
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
I mean, so we, it is having an effect. But yeah, we can't really change things until we take the House of Representatives and maybe the Senate, but at least the House of Representatives, if we can take that, we can, we can frankly stop him in his tracks on most fronts. Now, again, people need to pay attention to the fact that the President still has control of the military. So the thing that we're going to have to do is make sure that we're reacting to what he's doing by calling for, and I'm talking about the general public calling for a withdrawal from Iran. We should not be in this war. Never should have gotten into this war. And again, I'm not. There's nothing good about the Iranian regime. And no, he has not changed the regime, despite the fact that he would like to claim.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
You mean we get this, right? Sorry, I didn't mean to interrupt you, but what you mean because the ayatollah is just the son of the other ayatollah, the same people are. It's a madness and, oh, God, it drives me crazy. I know you're pressed for time. I'd love to go into this, but I have one final question for you, then we'll get you out of here. The biggest issue, I think we all, other than this international disasters that we've had, is affordability. And I know that you have, you have done things in Illinois to address affordability with housing and things like that. Are there, are there lessons from what you have done in Illinois that can be taken to the national level about how we can address the affordability crisis that Donald Trump has made infinitely worse?
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
Yeah, there are a whole lot of things that I think that, that we ought to be doing nationally that, that I did here. Let's start with the number one thing that makes things more affordable, which is raise wages. Like, you know, there's nothing that makes things more affordable like putting more dollars in your pocket. And so here in Illinois anyway, we raised the minimum wage to $15. It's the highest in the Midwest. It's what we should, at a minimum, we should be doing that at the federal level. Our now Democratic nominee for United States Senate, Juliana Stratton, called for a $25 minimum wage nationally. So putting more dollars in people's pockets, by the way, making it easier for people to organize, you know, to create a union so they can collectively bargain for their wages. And because as you're seeing, companies are becoming more powerful and individuals less powerful. And so we ought to just make it possible for everybody to have a union if they want it. Okay, that's number two. But those are about wages. Then there are things like we've been doing here in Illinois, which is eliminating medical debt. So many people, on average, people have about $2,000 in medical debt. A lot of people. A whole lot of people. And we've eliminated that for 500,000 people. In the state of Illinois, we've eliminated their medical debt. Didn't cost much, by the way. For $10 million, we were able to eliminate a billion dollars of debt. Wow. Now, we did that in Cook county and the state of Illinois. $10 million each. So that's $2 billion of medical debt
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E (Podcast Co-host)
we got rid of.
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
We should be doing that nationally. We should be protecting people from these old debts that are, you know, they, you know, got into a car accident, you got sick, not. Not your fault. Things just happened. An accident happened. Something unexpected happened. You shouldn't have to live the rest of your life with, you know, with collectors, call, you know, collection agencies calling your. Your house or. Or your credit rating going down. So that's something we've taken care of in the state of Illinois and we're continuing to do here that we could do nationally. And then junk fees. I mean, we all see it every time. You know, every time you buy a ticket to a game somewhere or you even going to a restaurant or ordering something online, you see these little charges that you never thought existed before, and it's just sucking money out of your wallet. We've got to stop that. And we've got a bill right now before our legislature to do exactly that. So, one last thing. Homeowners insurance and auto insurance here in Illinois. One of the companies here announced they're raising homeowners insurance 27% this year. 27%, right. That's $750 for some, you know, for. For an average family in the. In the state of Illinois, $750. So, I mean, you know, a lot of things we could talk about, but if you can raise wages and get rid of these crazy increases in costs that companies are taking advantage of people around and make life a whole lot better.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah, totally agree. Well, well, Governor, we know that you are a very busy man. We want to thank you for coming on the show and talking, talking to our audience. I know they're going to love hearing about this and really appreciate all the great work that you've done in Illinois and we'll have to have you back when you have a little more time and we can dive into some of these other things. But we really appreciate you taking the time, Governor and everybody go follow the governor on all of his social platforms. We'll put some clips out, too, but we just want to thank the governor. First time. We really appreciate it.
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
Appreciate you, Tim, and you guys. Thank you very much for having me on.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
All right, thank you.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
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Tim (Podcast Host)
All right, we are back, guys. Hugh's great. He is such a good leader.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Thank you a lot. It's crazy talking to a person who's an actual leader and who has been a leader for a while and who knows how to do things.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Isn't it wild?
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
And he has all his marvels.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah, yeah.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
I mean, and you see all the things they're doing in Illinois. And my guess, we didn't ask him because we ran out of time, but my guess is we're going to be seeing a lot more of him on the national stage as the months that we get closer to 2027, which I'm all about. I like him a lot. I like that he doesn't take any shit from anybody. And he, I mean, just the way he talks and just like explains things. I think it's just like those are the types of Democrats we need running at the national level. So I, Yeah, yeah.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
I gotta add, he looks really good. He looks good.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah. No, I can tell.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
He's, he's, he's, he's working on his image. He's work, he's polishing up everything. And he's, he's a sharp dude. I think he's, you know, people write off, I think governors because the last, like many, many, many Democratic candidates for, for president, including actual presidents, they all came through the Senate. But, you know, up until Bill Clinton up, you know, up through Bill Clinton, the best Democratic presidents were all, they all came from governor, you know, governor's mansions. And I think we're going to see a big resurgence there this year, you know, with. Or this cycle, you know, with Gretchen Whitmer, J.B. pritzker, obviously, Gavin Newsom, Andy Bashar. Andy Bashar, Josh Shapiro, almost all of them, basically all of them are, are governors. And that's because governors have executive leadership experience. It's just that basic, like they, they know how to run complex things and they know how to get done.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Exactly.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Rob Sanders.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Senators don't do that. Like People don't appreciate the. The difference.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
What's that look?
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
I said if Rob sand wins in Iowa, he's going to be running.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Oh, you think he's going to go right from being a freshman? I could see him.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
I could see him doing it.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah, maybe. I mean.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
I mean, I was a blue ticket. You run for it.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
I don't know much about Rob Sand. Can you tell us? Oh, he's got cool hair.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
He's got cool hair. I would describe him more as like, he's the definition of a centrist, but in Iowa, that's about as liberal as it gets.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Well, but, you know, like, that's a very red state. So, I mean, you.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
I mean, it's deep red, right?
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Well, he's talking about swing state.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Well, once upon a time.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Was it 12?
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Was it just a wee lad?
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Did we win for Obama by a ton?
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Did we win it in 12?
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E (Podcast Co-host)
I know we won it for Obama twice.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah. And then, then all hell broke loose.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
But, yeah, then Trump, Trump, Trump.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
But again, like, you gotta run candidates. You gotta run the right candidates in the right states, in the right districts. They can't all be the same. It's just not doable.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Like, what do you mean, Tim Zohran Momdani wouldn't win in Iowa?
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Tim (Podcast Host)
You know, I have to say I'm
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E (Podcast Co-host)
not gonna rule anything out on Zoran.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
I have to tell you that I
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
think Zoran himself could do it.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
I agree with you just from, like, what they would do in the. But, like, that guy's killing it as the mayor.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
He is like, he's fucking killing it. Like, I love him so much.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Just doing. He ripped up all those, like, crony deals that Adams made and he went and like, solved the, like, he, like, had like 8,000 potholes filled in the first week and month. But that's the things that, that mayors and governors have to worry about is all of those projects, the things that actually affect people in their backyards or in New York, mostly in your. Your front steps. But, you know, like governors and, and mayors who get done. I think that's the, that's the play. I don't think. I. I don't really know. A mayor to a president, it's a big jump. But a governor, especially a big state, is, you know, in a state that is very. Has a similar, like, I'll say Illinois, for example, has a similar trait that the United States does. There is a. There are deep blue spots and there are ruby, ruby red there. The farm area.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Economically diverse. Yeah.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah. I was going to tell Pritzker that I'm actually from Illinois. I'm from. It was tight in there, but the spot I'm from is ruby red as a motherfucker. And all of those farmers that are from where I around there are getting vigorously.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Oh, I mean, Pritzker talked about the soybeans. We didn't talk about was that when we gave Argentina that $40 billion loan and then we put tariffs in place, then the Chinese just started buying soybeans from Argentina instead of us. Why wouldn't they? Right? I mean, well, they're just going to go where it's the cheapest.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Right. I'm sure Trump wasn't strategic enough to, to plan that, but he would 100% do that and would love to do that because it would be hurting a blue state. That's all. He only sees the color that they are on the election map. He doesn't see the Republicans in blue states or the Democrats and red states, of course. He just decides, oh, that's a bad state. Everyone there is a lost cause.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
It's a, it's a. But like, he won't, he doesn't, he's not going to run, like, can't run again. I don't care what anyone says. So it doesn't matter to him. But letting these, like, these Midwest governors who have large swaths of farm in their states, like, this is going to be a big, like, club that they're going to be able to swing in a, in a general or a primary and then in a general that they, because they know the stuff inside it out. Even Gavin Newsom, I mean, the. California is the biggest farm state in the country. People don't think about that because you think about San Francisco and you think about LA and San Diego, but it's true. All the inner parts of the state and north are all farm areas. So like, it's a, it's, I mean, it's awful for the farmers, but it's a massive gift to Democrats.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
You know, it's funny you just mentioned, like, he can't run again. And as you were saying that, it occurred to me, I haven't heard Trump 2028 in a long. Where'd that go the third term? You know, I remember watching Charlie Kirk at Texas A and M. Frisbee out, Trump 2028. Hats to the, to the screaming crowd. A number of things from that experience have changed. Yeah, not just the hats.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Well, one big thing changed there, but.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Well, yeah, a couple of big thing. Couple, two notable things. But yeah, it's Very much a different world. And what does that say about, what does that say about maga? You know, you go from Elon Musk and Doge and all of the things that were happening like just a year ago, that was only 12 months ago that that happened to, to where we're at now, where it's like he's threatening genocide and the people who were cheering for him a year ago are asking for him to be removed from office. It's a, it's a, it's not a great swing for him.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Let's talk about the people who have said that so far. And I, I was, I, I had a joke. I told you guys before with that. I was going to say to PRITZKER about the 25th Amendment because Alex Jones called for the 25th Amendment. And I was going to make some joke about. That's the first time you guys have agreed on anything. But, like, Marjorie Taylor Greene has turned on him. Tucker Carlson has turned on him. Nick Fuentes, that pure trash has turned on him. Like these people have. Yeah, go ahead, Luke.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Here's my problem with this, because I saw that fucking Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn got on a fucking podcast last week and were just railing about how mad they were with Trump and how they thought everything was. Yeah, all these people do this shit for like a week. And then as soon as they realize that without their Republican audience, they don't have in their hands to clap with, they go right back on it. They're fine, they're fine with him and they go back to just like full throating supporting him. I appreciate that they're saying it, but it's like it's fucking meaningless when in a week you're going to go, all right, well, he didn't, but he didn't nuke him. So I'm, he's my guy again, sorry.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
I have to say, though, I was amazed to hear because this is not something that I would have heard from any Republican voice or a Republican adjacent voice growing up, or really, up until about five years ago, Theo Vaughn said that we were the terrorists. Like, he, he just straight up said, look at what we're doing. Like, they didn't do anything. They attacked nobody. And we went in and just declared war and started bombing everyone saying that we're going after the terrorists. And then he said something like, you know, but what happens when you realize that you're the terrorist and a Republican calling the Republican Party and Republic the Republican military actions anything? Terrorist adjacent is not a thing you would have heard under George W. Bush or Mitt Romney or any of those. Those people.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
No, but the thing.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
The same guy that told Vance, we gotta get. We gotta get those Epstein files out, though, man. People need justice. And then proceeded to sit quietly as they did the exact opposite.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
You know what's. You know what's funny about Theo Vaughn is that everybody thinks he's some kid. He's 46 years old, and it's because he has a stupid ass Mohawk slash bullet thing.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
And I do, too, also. You can't see it.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah, you hide it well.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Like an eighth of an inch tall,
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E (Podcast Co-host)
but it's slightly longer in the back.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
But also Theo Vaughn. Theo Vaughn is famous for being on the Road Rules Real. Real World Rogue Rules Challenge on mtv, which, like, doesn't exist anymore or barely.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
That was like the 90s, right?
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
MTV doesn't even exist.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
No, they went. I think they're closing. And. And. But the thing about Theo. I agree with you, Luke. I mean, I agree with both of you, but, Luke, the. The Theo Vaughn and the. And the Rogan stuff, they say things like the elites and the wealthy and the bl. I'm like, say Trump. Say Trump. Like, you voted for. You endorsed him. You platformed him. Say you fucked up. Like, don't play this game where it's like, oh, well. And they're doing exactly, Luke, for the reason you said, because they're afraid of losing audience. But these guys are the biggest fucking cowards on earth. They're both loaded beyond belief. I mean, Rogan's worth hundreds of millions of dollars. Theo Vaughn's probably worth tens of millions at least. And these guys have these huge captivated audiences, and they can't even fucking admit
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E (Podcast Co-host)
that they were wrong.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
No.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
And the thing is, in 2028, they'll do the same shit again. They'll have Vance on or whoever's fucking running, and they'll give him softball questions and treat him like he's a normal human being. Like he's not some. Like he's not in the pocket of techno fascist pieces of which he definitely is. Which he absolutely is.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
And they'll ask him, what's your favorite beer?
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
What's your.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
You know, what's your thoughts on legalizing weed?
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
Which thought.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
On medical marrow or medical, you know, fucking psychedelics. And then everybody. All the fucking people out there will go, oh, he's a normal guy. No, he's not.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
No, he's. Well, no, no, he can't hang like Trump. Could like Trump. I've. I've actually seen Trump when he's not like when he's not screaming about on, like, on the, on camera, when he's just having conversations with people. He's much more charming and much funnier, like, person to person in the, in that kind of a setting. It's really. It's when he gets up and does his performative, like, fake news and, you know, he starts insulting people. That's when the ugly comes out. But I think, you know, person to person, he has. He has a charisma that, that Vance has never had and will never have. And, yeah, he's not able to.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
We've talked about this before. I said when I saw that Theo Vaughan Donald Trump interview where Donald Trump was actually asking him questions about his drug use. Not in a, like, laughing, joking way, but just pure curiosity in the back of my mind, because I was obviously telling myself what everybody told themselves, which was, comma, was going to win. But I saw that and I went, fuck. Because I'm like, they are making him look like a human being.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
It was like Jimmy Fallon ruffling his hair in 2016 or whatever.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
He handled it.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
I mean, it was the beginning of the end of sanity when you normalize a psychopath.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Right?
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Just like, kind of making them look fun, you know?
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
Yep.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah. And that was what, you know, Trump's talk. Oh, what's was that leg? How was it to get clean? And you're like, I'm like, oh, my God, this is so bad.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Did you guys all see Vance get cucked this last week, though?
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Tim (Podcast Host)
No.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
And he was giving a speech overseas and he said, I'm going to call. I've got a special guest that I'm going to call up. And he calls Trump and it goes straight to voicemail. And then, and then he was completely in the dark on all of the Iran stuff.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Right?
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
So somebody, somebody asked him a question and they were like, well, let's. I'll just see if I've got a text from, like, somebody important about this, because I don't know what you're talking about. And then he, like, pulls up his phone. He's like, oh, I do have a text from this. I can't tell you what it says, though. Like, he was completely in the dark from things that people in the news were asking him about.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
That doesn't surprise me at all. I mean, he doesn't. He's, like, famously isolationist. He doesn't like anything that's happening now. And that's going to be the funniest thing, is, like, he's going to be like, 2028. Like I'm the change candidate or whatever. Like I didn't actually, like all of the things that I was complicit in. Like it's going to be funny.
- [30:29]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Trump fucked him by calling, by labeling him the fraud czar. Because when Democrats kick the shit out of the Republicans in the midterms, Trump's going to claim that it was fucking fraud.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
And Vance is gonna be like, well, but I didn't find any.
- [30:43]
Tim (Podcast Host)
Well, let's talk, let's talk about why we think that there's going to be a massive tsunami in December. December, November. Jesus.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Still be going in December.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Well, there could be some races.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
We drown in these mother.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
So there were, there were a few races last night. We're talking about two in particular. So the first one is, is an easy one to explain, which is the Wisconsin state judge race. It's not, they're not politically affiliated, but there's a liberal and a conservative. The liberal candidate won by 21 points, which puts the liberal majority on the court at five to two, like four years ago.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
At least until 2030.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
At least until 2030. So that means like if there's any shenanigans in 28, there will be a liberal majority to see those cases, which is very, very important. And we. Rich, you were saying before we got on that the two years ago there was another flip for a Democrat and it was 10 points. And we were like, holy shit, that's massive. This was 21.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah, that was the one that Elon Musk dumped.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Fuckload of money.
- [31:45]
Tim (Podcast Host)
Oh, 25 million, 30, 40 million. It was a massive amount of money.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
He got so embarrassed. I mean that was the first sign, that was the first flicker of hope, you know, because it was so early. It was only a couple of months after all of the bullshit started after inauguration. And, and we thought it was going to be close. The polls looked good, but we thought it was going to be close. And then, then, you know, the Canada at the time ended up winning a 10 year term by the way, by 10 points. And now they just didn't even fight this one. You know, nobody was pouring their own fortune into it. They didn't even fight it. They lose by 21 points. And it's the same state, same statewide thing. Like it's all one to one. That's what's happening. And Amanda actually did, Amanda's mild takes, did a really great breakdown of the election. You know, sadly, a bunch of wins and a lot of, a lot of upside got overshadowed by threats of genocide. But she Did a great breakdown on what, on the various elections that took place last night, including the one in Georgia. And she pointed out that like I can't remember off the top of my head, but there were areas in like Green Bay, there were, I think Dane county. They lost their, their last Republican got thrown out.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Oh yeah, I saw some of this
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E (Podcast Co-host)
all the way down ballot all across the state of Wisconsin, which I have to remind everybody, Trump did win after, you know, Wisconsin was a liberal stronghold
- [33:07]
Tim (Podcast Host)
for decades according to the Times and Nate Khan. Let's see the. Chris, Chris Taylor is the name of the woman that won.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Right.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
She swept many reliably working class areas and might even crack the traditionally conservative suburban counties around Milwaukee. That is a siren. I don't know, maybe you just send not a siren, maybe it's just a, you send a Hearst. But like that is a huge problem for them. And there are swingable districts in Wisconsin that if those numbers hold that the, the majority for the Democrats winning is, we're going to be talking about 30, not 10. Another one that we briefly mentioned, the Georgia race, which we did not win but is very exciting as well, is that the Democrat who, who ran lost by just shy of 12%. Now double digits is a lot to lose by. But when you put it into context for what Marjorie Taylor Greene won that in November of 2024. She won that, that district by 31 or 32 points, which is a 19, 19 point swing in a year and a half. They have like, yeah, go ahead, Rich.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Those aren't just Republican voters. Those are the same humans who elected Marjorie Taylor Greene over and over and over. So this is not like, oh, it's a red district, you know, a red swing suburban mom, soccer mom district. This is like these are angry Republicans in the sticks who have been watching Fox news for probably 30 years and now they're, you know, they at least for a while were, were red pilled into oblivion and now a portion of them are coming back and that's all we've ever needed. We've always Talked about how 25 or so percent of Americans are basically a lost cause for the left. We need that like 10%, 15% swing in the middle. Who people who inexplicably voted for Obama and Trump and Biden and Trump. They are real. They just don't talk about it because they don't want to have to defend their choices. That's okay. We just want them back on the left.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Let's put it in perspective here too. So if, let's say in the general in November and 26, that they, that the governor candidate and the Senate candidates for the Republicans only get 12, they only win by 12% in that district. Jon Ossif is going to beat the living shit out of whoever is the nominee. And the Democrats, I think the governorship is up too. They would probably win that, but they definitely would flip some houses too. They need to run their margins up in these rural areas. And if they need it to be 30, 30, 35 points because they lose so badly at Atlanta and some other places like Cobb county and some of these other places, they are in massive trouble. And I would argue that maybe, just maybe suggesting a genocide with nuclear bombs on election day is maybe not a good strategy when you're already in trouble. Because when people see that and then they, you know, maybe there are people who don't necessarily want to vote and they go, oh my God, we got to get this guy out of there. All of a sudden you're juicing turnout for Democrats by accident because he's a,
- [36:22]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
because he's a fucking idiot.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
The thing that is really different about this is like historically when there's, and this was, I think in part Trump's thinking, but when there's a military conflict, Americans get, you know, a little anxious and they want stability. They don't want to disrupt leadership when you're in the middle of something unless it's really, really bad. And so, you know, George W. Bush inexplicably winning in 2004, it was definitely related to that. This has been a go to for Republicans is like, start a problem that is unresolved and then say that you're the only one who can solve it. But I think this one, I mean, obviously this is backfiring on Trump. When you look at the response from the right, like if you just look at the response from the right where Tucker Carlson is telling the military to ignore Trump's commands if they're illegal. And Candace Owens called to invoke the 25th amendment. You've got MAGA like Marjorie Taylor Greene calling to invoke the 25th amendment. When you look at what he has done, it's going to be the opposite. People are going to remember this visceral, emotional reaction that, that they had to seeing the president call for something, you know, just a full on fear. They feel, yes, and they're going to be desperate, desperate, desperate for anyone who can never do that again. Because that yesterday did not feel good. And it wasn't just people who were paying attention. It wasn't Just the people who are completely dialed in. That shit got out several degrees of separation from the, you know, the Beltway insiders, the influencers, the political crowd. And that's the kind of fear that sticks with people when you feel like you have a madman as your. As your leader and they might do something that we've always considered to be completely unthinkable, which is not. Not just the genocide, but, like, there was a overt implication that he was going to use nuclear weapons in order to do it, because that was really the only way that you could do what he said he wanted to do. And, like, that's a betrayal of the entire American identity that most of us have been raised with, whether that identity was, like, rooted in reality or not. Different conversation. Yeah, but that's not. That's not what anybody is out here fighting for. Even. Even. I, I think 75% of the people on the right.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
I would. I would think so, but I. And I think that's a good segue into, you know, Republicans know they're screwed, right? I mean, at this point, unless something massive happens, they're losing the House. That's. That's it.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Oh, yeah. Like 30 to 40 seats.
- [38:56]
Tim (Podcast Host)
Oh. Oh, yeah.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
And.
- [38:57]
Tim (Podcast Host)
And they're running out of time. But so, like, that's going to lead to a lot of, I would say, funny business that they're going to try. The first thing that they've been trying, and I think they're going to fail at, is passing the SAVE Act. I. I cannot see how on earth that they are going to do that without causing more damage. They'd have to nuke the filibuster, which all would open the floodgates. Susan Collins would be gone, I think Dan Sullivan in Alaska, gone. What's his face in Ohio, gone. Like, they would all get killed. So they're not going to go along with that. Obviously, they've talked about putting, you know, ICE at, you know, at voting locations and such. And I, I think that, that that stuff is. I don't know if that's really likely, but the other thing that they're going to start trying to do, and they've already started to do, which I don't think many people have talked about, is they want to go after the Democratic money. And because they know that they are on issues, it's over. Like, the issues are essentially set. Unless somehow, miraculously, all the tariffs go away, the economy starts going back up again, and prices drop by like 50. Like, all of these things.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
I mean, so basically they have to just decide to undo everything they've done so far.
- [40:12]
Tim (Podcast Host)
Right. Which unfortunately, if you undo everything, I doubt you get back because of the damage.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
That's not how capitalism works.
- [40:18]
Tim (Podcast Host)
Exactly. Like, there are. Some people are like, oh, with, with the Strait of Hormuz being open for two weeks. Oil prices are going to come down, by the way.
- [40:25]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Nope, it's closed again.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
What do you mean it's closed again?
- [40:28]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
It's closed again already this morning.
- [40:30]
Tim (Podcast Host)
They've already shut it down because.
- [40:32]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Because Israel is bombing.
- [40:33]
Tim (Podcast Host)
Bombing Lebanon.
- [40:34]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Lebanon and Hezbollah.
- [40:35]
Tim (Podcast Host)
Yep. So this is, this is going great, guys. So anyways, that is going to make it worse because it's going to blow up.
- [40:41]
E (Podcast Co-host)
Literally.
- [40:41]
Tim (Podcast Host)
Well, not literally figuratively blow up in his face, but you know what I mean. And so they are going to try to go after the money, but we want to talk about some of their money issues because if they're going to come after our stuff, then we need to get the message out about what's happening on their side too. So they have been going after ActBlue, which is the donation platform that I think pretty much every Democrat up and down the ballot uses.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
We all get their texts, we all
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Tim (Podcast Host)
get their stuff, their emails, their text. When you donate, it's generally an ActBlue site. They're literally a plaque platform. They're also a nonprofit, so they are not gouging people for money and giving shareholders some sort of big check. The House Oversight Committee has sent them letters and demanding answers for things that are silly and nonsense. And I just want to point out some of the things that are happening at Win Read that they are. You know, it's always projection with the Republicans. Right. So Win Red is almost essentially a copy and paste of ActBlue because Democrats were outraising them online like, like hand over fist. So they decided a few years ago to create this thing called Win Red. But the copy of paste ends where some of the, let's say things that you don't normally pay attention to start to come out as far as like things like fraud and accepting illegal contributions and things like that. So I want to give you some stats here. I have to put my glasses on so, you know it's serious. Win Red has received over seven or roughly seven times more FTC complaints that than ActBlue has despite processing half of the money. And that is so, like, if someone feels like they have been mischarged or whatever, they can file a complaint with the ftc. So Win Red, which is half as big, has almost seven times as many complaints. No.
- [42:33]
E (Podcast Co-host)
No letters, no Complaints that honestly shocks me. Usually, you know, Republican money comes from really clean ethical sources.
- [42:42]
Tim (Podcast Host)
So yeah, they, yeah, let's see. And it has winrat and then Win Red's refund rate. Because this is the other thing. If you feel like you've been mischarged, you could file for your money back. And people make mistakes. Right? Some of it is totally fine. But Winrad's refund rate has consistently been double or triple ActBlue's rate. And again, remember, half the donations. Let's see, in 20 and 22. Hold on, hold on, hold on. You'll love this. In 2020, it was 7.4% for Win Red compared to 2.3 for ActBlue. It was 6.7 versus 2.5. In 22 it was 4.1 versus 2 and 2024. Double or triple every year. Did they call on any investigations of winrad? No, no. And Winred is a for profit, which means that when shareholders are making money, their shareholders are making money. So. And then finally I'm going to do. This is my favorite one. They were making claims that we were, you know, they do this every, every two years. The Democrats are getting all this money from abroad. They're all getting rich from overseas. And, and what generally happens is that those are expats overseas, American citizens donating all or military, military members who are making donations from abroad. You know, and Trump ordered the DOJ to investigate ActBlue for this. But his own committee received 1600 problematic contributions through Win Read that they didn't look into at all.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Of course not.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
The other thing, and here's the final thing, then I'll shut up because I've droned on for a long time.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
This is on topic, so go ahead.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
The other one is, so when you make a donation, there is generally a box that allows you to make it a monthly gift. So. And, and you know, it can be a little hard to pay attention to this, but when you do it through Act Blue, there's a giant button and you have to opt in to monthly. My understanding on Win Red is it's turned on and you have to click it off.
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E (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah, yeah, that's Jesus. And so cnn this. As soon as you said Win Read, I was like, oh, that is. That was an article I read. CNN October 2024 did a huge investigative piece on this. But the, they keyed in on one person and this was an 80 year old former engineer who I believe they said had dementia and started making online. Yeah, dementia robbed him of his reasoning abilities. He started making donations over and over. And they have a whole nice little infographic. So September 2020, he made his first donation through WinRed, a $250 contribution toward Ron Johnson. In one month, he had donated 344 times, giving over $10,000 because of all of these recurring triggers and dementia robbing of his memory. By December 5, he had donated. This is about 50 days later. He had donated over 2,000 times for over $100,000. By March the next year. Yeah, it gets better. By March the next year, he had donated 57 times with one donation as small as 25 cents and several as large as a hundred. By May, 5,700 contributions for a total of over $200,000. And by the in, in one year, and this is October 2023, he had made over total 15,000 donations for over $440,000.
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Governor J.B. Pritzker
What?
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E (Podcast Co-host)
And it was his entire life savings, his entire nest egg, his kids, entire inheritance. His son spent weeks trying to help him get the money back. And as of June 2024, they were able to secure refunds from Winrad for a third of the contributions over the year and a half span, which means he donated about $300,000 that he, as of June 2024 had not gotten back. And they didn't get back. This was an 80 year old. I mean, there was, I'm sure there were ongoing lawsuits for long after this, but this is an 80 year old Republican with dementia and they just liquidated his entire life savings so that they could, you know, do what fucking Republicans.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Well, we get, and we've heard stories about this even since 2016. And look, I was a, I was on the email team for Barack Obama's first presidential campaign. So we dealt with donations like this all the time. And you know, you, you, it's very easy to issue these refunds. It's also really easy to manipulate people, especially, you know, people. If old people, elderly people, people with dementia and that, like, you know, the monthly stuff, a lot of people don't understand. You've heard horror stories of, of elderly Republicans destroying their lives. Or like a wife or a husband finds out that the, that the other, the spouse gave, gave away their life savings or their retirement. You don't hear about that on our side because it doesn't happen. Because if you ask, how hard do
- [47:58]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
you think it would be to get Trump to give his fucking life savings away on, on Win Read?
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Tim (Podcast Host)
You mean if you start, if he started checking his email and doing that.
- [48:05]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Yeah, he's so dementia. I bet he, I bet he'd Give it away.
- [48:09]
Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah. Well, also like the amount of money he is still fundraising and it's like, for what?
- [48:15]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
If you're giving him money, you are so dumb, you could up a one house paper route. What does he need your money for? And the emails, I. I see them now. The emails he sends to get your money. If you click donate off of one of those. Jesus fucking Christ. I mean, it's like, it's like. It's just me, Donald. I'm in the war room. Nobody else is here. I'm hunched over my laptop sending you this email. If you believe that, fuck me, you're an idiot.
- [48:45]
Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's madness and. But that's why it's important to shed a light on this. It's like you're coming after the Democrats who have a non profit setup for this so there's no shareholder involvement, and yet your side has thousands of international donations that are not unaccounted for. You are not refunding people de. People with dementia, hundreds of thousands of dollars which they can afford to refund, by the way. It's just. It's just madness. And I just. It's important to talk about this because they're going to bring it up. And people on our. And Democrats generally, we are always reactive and it's time for us to be proactive and get the information out there and just basically be like, no, there's nothing here. They're doing it because they know they're going to lose at the ballot box. So you hear this story. You heard it here first. Like, don't pay any. Like, don't mind any of it. And if you're in a district where you have a Republican member on oversight, you know, and they start like messing around, you should call them and tell them to knock it off. Anyways, we just lost Rich. I didn't realize he was disappearing.
- [49:49]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
He said he had to go for work.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
Okay, well, I think we've, you know, we've.
- [49:53]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
We've covered it.
- [49:53]
Tim (Podcast Host)
This is a pretty good, Pretty good episode. Luke, tell us what's. Who's. Who's on American Power.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
You mean get angry?
- [50:01]
Tim (Podcast Host)
Get angry. I'll talk about, you know, you are not on that show. Who did you have on?
- [50:05]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
We had, we had Umi verse on. If you've ever seen her videos. She's viral. She swears more than I do. She dropped the C word within like 30 seconds of us starting our recording. It was awesome. I would highly recommend you go listen. Well, if you want to learn what a lunar is Go check it out.
- [50:25]
Tim (Podcast Host)
Yeah, I didn't know what that was. You guys had to tell me. But it is a. I haven't listened. I watched like five minutes of it, but I was with my son.
- [50:32]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Oh, that's not appropriate for young years.
- [50:34]
Tim (Podcast Host)
I gotta. I had it very low and I'm like, I can't. I can't listen. So that is up and available everywhere on the find out media YouTube substack. It's on itunes or Apple podcasts, Spotify, everywhere, everywhere. We also have an episode of American Power, a new episode that dropped. Well today is. We're recording on Wednesday. It dropped today. So when you hear this, tomorrow it'll be available. And the first episode of American Power hit number one on the government chart on Apple. And it also charted on the main chart, which is what happened to Get Angry, which is really exciting. So that show's killing it. You should go check it out. It's with Mr. Global and Chad Scott and Nat Townsend. And then we also have Nola Haynes is not a Spy. I think she has a episode dropping today. If it's pretending, it's Thursday today, I think that's with Congresswoman Underwood, I believe, who we've had on the show. She's wonderful. She's not. She's next week. I can't remember because I don't have any notes in front of me. Because as that person who gave us the one star review after watching 95, we don't come prepared.
- [51:33]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
We don't come prepared and we talk over each other.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
We're never going to. We're never going to let that one go. I am not going to let it go. But. Yeah, but. So we got those three shows. Everyone should go check those out. We also will be buying, building some more merch for those shows soon. But you can get the Find out. I don't have a find out podcast shirt.
- [51:51]
Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Damn. Neither do I.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
You can guide those atfind out podcast.com and don't forget to subscribe to our YouTube channel. It is the easiest way to help us make money without you having to pay. Though we do have paid memberships as well because we get paid on views. So that would be super helpful. And a lot of what we're seeing now is that a lot of the attention around this sort of influencer podcast community is based on YouTube subscriber growth. So if you can go subscribe there and if we start getting mentioned more, more people hear about us, we build a bigger community, we could have a bigger impact. So if you could go subscribe to our Find Out Media podcast which Find Out Media YouTube channel which is where all of our shows are. We would appreciate that. And we already have 71,000 so thank you to the 71,000 people who have done that. But I think, Luke, I think that's it, right? We don't have any answers. You have a get fucked for today. I think we.
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Luke (Podcast Co-host)
Not off the top of my head.
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Tim (Podcast Host)
I mean it's Donald Trump, right? Like yeah. Threatening a nuclear. Yeah. Pretty well genocide. Yeah. I think we'll, we'll leave it at that. So everybody, thank you very much. We will be back on Tuesday. Have a great weekend. Listen or watch those other shows and we'll see you soon. Bye Everybody. Support is available 247 with Verbo Care. We're here day or night ready whenever you need help because a great trip starts with the right support.