The Find Out Podcast — Episode Summary

Podcast: The Find Out Podcast
Episode: ICE Is Out Of Control
Date: January 15, 2026
Hosts: Luke, Tim, Rich

Brief Overview

This episode takes a hard look at the recent actions and culture surrounding ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) under Trump’s second term, especially the killing of Renee Goode by an ICE agent in Minneapolis and the apparent cover-up surrounding the incident. The hosts discuss the broader implications: the Justice Department's behavior, cultural rot in law enforcement, Trump’s foreign adventures, and contemporaneous political crises, all with their characteristic mix of irreverence, outrage, and humor.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The ICE Killing in Minneapolis and Government Cover-up

(00:16 – 10:00)

• Incident Recap:

  • The killing of Renee Goode by an ICE agent in Minneapolis has sparked outrage, especially due to the federal government's apparent unwillingness to cooperate with local investigations ([00:16]).
  • Minnesota’s Attorney General Keith Ellison and Governor Walls (Walz) are seeking investigation, but federal authorities are refusing to comply ([02:32]).
  • The hosts sharply critique this "fascist" attitude and the subsequent lack of transparency.
  • Six federal prosecutors resigned because they were pressured to investigate Goode’s widow, not the agent responsible ([04:17]).

  "When you say Republicans, if you don't want to be called fascist, don't do fascist shit. This seems kind of fascist." – Luke ([00:53])

• Prosecutorial Resignations:

  • Resigning prosecutors were previously investigating a fraud case that included both Somali-Americans and others, but were pushed out for refusing to investigate Goode’s widow without evidence ([04:17], [05:20]).

  "That's how people who were still working under Pam Bondi now said this is the line that was crossed. And there have already been like 100 lines that have been crossed in the past." – Tim ([06:03])

• Rising Law Enforcement Violence:

  • Beyond Goode’s case, new footage shows increasing brutality from ICE agents, with one woman violently removed from her car ([00:41]).
  • Federal presence in Minneapolis is expanding, intensifying fear and frustration ([00:41]).

2. Toxic Law Enforcement Culture

(06:36 – 15:18)

• ICE Agent's Language and Misogyny:

  • After the shooting, the ICE agent was caught on video calling Goode a "fucking bitch" ([07:33], [08:05]), highlighting a culture of contempt and misogyny which the hosts argue is normalized in certain circles.

    "Your first reaction after shooting somebody three times in the face is to call her a fucking bitch. Like, what is, what are we doing?" – Luke ([07:33])

• Online Response and Defenders:

  • The hosts read sickening Facebook comments defending the shooting, including slurs and a warped blame game ([09:43–10:38]).

    "I've been making a list of people that I verified that they're real people and that when I have spare time, I'll be ruining their [lives] for this." – Rich ([09:43])

• Unqualified and Radicalized Agents:

  • ICE is lowering recruitment standards, with leaks even indicating the inclusion of extremists like Proud Boys in their ranks ([15:18–15:59]).

    "List in the leak. He's in that list of leaked ICE agents that just came out. It's like the biggest leak of all time from the DHS." – Rich ([15:27])

3. Surveillance, Safety, and Community Advice

(15:59 – 18:44)

• Immediate Advice:

  • Stay calm in ICE encounters, film everything, do not provoke, and know your rights ([16:45–17:38]).

  • Filming police is legal, and officials may lie about your rights. Mayor Mamdani published a video for New Yorkers detailing these rights ([17:41]).

    "If there was no videotape of this, of the murder...half the country wouldn't believe it because they didn't see it." – Luke ([16:37])

4. Trump’s Escalating Authoritarianism and Foreign Policy Disasters

(18:44 – 29:50)

• Greenland "Plans":

  • Trump is publicly talking about acquiring Greenland for national security and resource reasons, ignoring existing U.S.-Denmark agreements post-WWII that already let the U.S. use Greenland for military purposes ([27:10]).

  • The real drive is seen as resource extraction—$4–5 trillion in minerals—at the potential cost of catastrophic environmental impacts ([28:57]).

    "If Greenland's ice sheet completely melted, it would raise the ocean by 24ft." – Tim ([28:57])

• International Unrest and Alienation of Allies:

  • Trump is actively antagonizing NATO partners, with European leaders issuing rare joint statements urging the U.S. to stop ([18:46]).
  • He’s creating chaos abroad, including bombings in Iran and Venezuela ([19:33]).

• Revival of the Monroe Doctrine and White Nationalist Propaganda:

  • Trump and aides (notably Stephen Miller) are using "Monroe Doctrine" language for hemispheric dominance—a throwback to 19th-century imperial thinking ([20:20–22:07]).
  • The administration uses social media graphics with white nationalist dog whistles ([22:19–23:13]).

5. U.S. Democracy and Voter Suppression Fears, but Ongoing Hope

(23:13 – 26:49)

• Election Integrity:

  • Despite online doomsaying and Trump’s threats (seizing voting machines, etc.), states control elections, and most mechanisms are holding up ([24:06–25:38]).

  • Recent elections continue trending against Republicans, indicating persistent resistance and anger ([26:49]).

    "I don't think there's been an election since November 2024 the Democrats didn't overperform. And it's because people are angry, very, very angry about what's happening." – Luke ([26:49])

• Trump: "Worst President Ever":

  • Consensus among the hosts that Trump is the worst president in U.S. history ([26:49–27:06]).

6. Iranian Protests and Complex Foreign Policy

(30:49 – 34:23)

• Escalating Unrest:

  • The hosts note significant protests in Iran, with crackdowns reportedly resulting in thousands killed ([31:17]).

  • Trump’s response—threatening to bomb Iran while showing inconsistent concern for other crises—shows a lack of coherent foreign policy ([33:37]).

    "It's almost as if there is no coherent foreign policy whatsoever or any policy for anything." – Luke ([33:37])

• Importance of Real Analysis:

  • The hosts plan to bring in future guests to discuss Iran, as U.S. media coverage is lacking ([33:43–34:09]).

7. Irreverent Closer: Corruption and Self-Reflection

(34:23 – end)

• Mayor Eric Adams’ Crypto Scandal:
  • Side story: Adams’ failed meme coin and brash public behavior ([34:27–35:11]).
• Show Updates and Merch:
  • Brief plug for their merchandise (benefiting Feeding America) and teasing upcoming guest Stormy Daniels ([36:04–37:45]).

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "If you don't want to be called fascist, don't do fascist shit. This seems kind of fascist." — Luke ([00:53])
• "Your first reaction after shooting somebody... is to call her a fucking bitch. Like, what are we doing?" — Luke ([07:33])
• "I've been making a list of people that I verified that they're real people and that when I have spare time, I'll be ruining their [lives] for this." — Rich ([09:43])
• "If Greenland's ice sheet completely melted, it would raise the ocean by 24ft." — Tim ([28:57])
• "It's almost as if there is no coherent foreign policy whatsoever." — Luke ([33:37])

Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:16: Opening, ICE killing of Renee Goode overview
• 03:15: Federal non-cooperation and prosecutorial resignations
• 07:33: Agent’s misogynistic language after the shooting (notable quote)
• 09:43: Facebook commenters defending the shooting, toxic online culture
• 15:21: Leaked ICE agents list includes Proud Boys leader
• 16:45: Advice: Record all ICE/police encounters, know your rights
• 18:44: Trump’s Greenland obsession and resource colonialism
• 22:26: White nationalist propaganda from Trump administration
• 24:06: Voter suppression fears, actual election mechanics explained
• 26:49: Democrats overperforming in special elections
• 28:57: Environmental stakes of melting Greenland (notable quote)
• 30:49: Discussion of Iranian protests and regime crackdown
• 34:27: Eric Adams meme coin fail (comic relief)
• 36:04: Charity merch and closing notes

Tone and Language

The conversation blends outrage, biting humor, and frankness. The trio never shies away from saying "fuck" where appropriate; the tone is conversational but sharp, and deeply critical of both individuals and systemic rot. They're unflinching about misogyny, racist dogwhistles, and the open normalization of brutality, but punctuate their anger with dark humor and asides.

For New Listeners

This episode delivers an unvarnished look at the ICE killing, its aftermath, and how it fits into broader patterns of American authoritarianism under Trump’s second term. The hosts’ candor, sharp analysis, and humor make a charged subject accessible, while providing actionable advice and connecting the dots between local incidents and global implications.

Next Episode Teaser:
Stormy Daniels will join as a guest, adding a high-profile perspective to the ongoing discourse.