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ICE Murder in Minneapolis
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We rushed our episode out in light of the horrific murder of a woman in Minneapolis. California Congressman and candidate for governor Eric Swalwell joins us to talk about Minneapolis, Venezuela and what he would do as the next governor of the Golden State.
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Hey, everybody, welcome back to the Find out podcast. We have a special guest today that we were going to talk about a lot of different things, but we've got a breaking news situation where it appears, appears that an ICE agent has shot and killed a woman in an. In a car in Minneapolis, which it also looks like she was trying to get away. So this is quite an explosive situation. But we're, we're very, very fortunate to have Congressman Eric Swalwell with us today. So, Congressman, thank you for, for joining us.
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Thanks.
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And obviously, we were talking, going to talk about a lot of other things, and this has just happened in the last two hours, so we're, we're pivoting a little bit. So, Congressman, tell us what you have, what you've seen so far about what's going on on the ground.
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Yeah, it's horrific to watch. I mean, ICE is absolutely out of control. But this is what they want, right? They go into communities, they're bragging that they've sent 2,000 agents to Minneapolis. The goal is to draw the foul, is to put themselves in a position like this where people, you know, righteously are asking, like, what the are you doing in our communities? And then they use, you know, that resentment and that resistance is justification for what they just did. Look, I, I'm the son of a police officer. I'm a brother, right? Two police officers. I'm a former prosecutor, and I have always had the backs of law enforcement. But what that officer did there was murder. You know that. There was no de. Escalation. There was no effort to, you know, use any other level of force. It does not appear in any angle that I've seen, you know, that his life was in danger. This wasn't somebody who was. You're pinned against a wall and they're driving at you, you know, 20 miles an hour, and you can't go anywhere. He clearly got out of the way. He. He walked away. He was on his own two feet. And look, there has to be consequences now. And so, yes, as the mayor says, and we all have his back, get the fuck out of Minneapolis. Get the fuck out of California. We don't want you anywhere if you're not going after violent criminals and you're going to do stuff like this. But two, they have to be prosecuted. Local officials have to use their law enforcement abilities. And I've been saying this to attorneys general all over the state, go on offense, prosecute these masked unidentified bandits when they commit kidnapping, false imprisonment, assault, and now murder. And I also believe that we have to strip them of their immunity. They can't participate in these civil actions and enjoy law enforcement. Like immunity. Law enforcement has immunity. They're not doing law enforcement. They're participating in civil actions and now have taken the life of an innocent woman.
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Well, I want to point out to folks that maybe don't know, but the Trump administration had just announced, I think, the other day that they were sending 2,000 ICE agents into Minneapolis because of this, you know, this bullshit fake outrage that they've had around this fraud issue around daycare centers, which they have, we have known about since 2019. And the Biden administration had started the investigations into, and they made up this claim. And, you know, I'm curious to get your take, but, like, to me, it seems like because they want to denigrate Somali Americans and they want to, they want to lift up the outrage of the MAGA base because his, his poll numbers are plummeting through the floor. And then to send these, these mask agents. To be clear, there's all these photos of this guy who did this, but he's masked because they allow them to do that. Now, should we allow law enforcement to be masked in our cities?
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No. And by the way, Donald Trump looking for fraud is like O.J. simpson, Simpson looking for the real killer, right? Give me a break.
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I mean, come on.
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No, I have killed, said that when we are in the majority. I have talked to enough of my colleagues. The masks are coming off and the IDs are coming out. And we have that ability when we're in the majority because we have the power of the purse. And there's no Democrat I know who is going to fund ICE in a way where they're not accountable. And by the way, they're terrorizing women right now. You know, our moms, wives, daughters, they could be pulled off the street by anyone in a mask without knowing who the hell they are. That's the environment that ICE has created right now. And again, because I come from a law enforcement background, I know no other police agency, the FBI, the dea, local SWAT teams go roaming around in our communities unless it's the most extreme environment where their own safety and like the COVID of darkness is required in a masked way. They're the only agency that does this. And I also believe when you take the mask off, there's going to be fewer ICE agents who are willing to go out in the community and do this. I think they have this invincibility complex right now because they think they're invisible.
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There's no question. Have they Even been able to identify this guy because he was masked or are they not. Is he unidentified?
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I think I actually saw him drive off. And when you're watching the video, I think he gets in a car.
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Oh, really?
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Really off where? In most investigations, you know, you would.
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Stay at the scene right there.
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Right.
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There's a, there's a protocol. But that's why, you know, the, if this was in Minneapolis, you know, that's why the Hennepin County District Attorney's office, you know, should quickly assert jurisdiction and seek to interview, you know, the officer. Because that's a crime scene. 100%, that's a crime scene.
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Right.
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I mean, even from what I saw in the video, it looks like he's already pointing his gun before while the woman is backing up, not while she's coming at him. So I mean, this is, I mean that is, as you said, it's murder. This is, it's clear as day. Obviously it's a defensive position backing up. There's no reason to point your gun at somebody who's just blocking traffic.
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That's exactly right. And I don't think we have any evidence that she brandished any sort of weapon at him either. Right. She's in her vehicle. And as I said, I will defend an officer if he's pinned against the wall and a car's coming at him or. And I've seen cases where an officer is in a car and a car is racing at that officer and the officer will shoot through their own window. That is justified. This when you just scoot out of the way and you're on your own two feet, not justified.
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Well, I think, and that's the point I want to really hammer home to people. And that's why I'm so glad we have you today because you have this experience. But, but the use of lethal force has to be like clear and present danger. Correct. And what I'm seeing from that video, which you kind of see where he is, all he did was step out of the way and heard and you can even see the wheels on the look like a front wheel drive SUV or are turned all the way around to be getting out of the way. Like there's not a lot of ambiguity in this, in this video. And of course MAGA is all saying he did it to spare his life. But if you look at the footage, I don't know how any rational human being can look at that and say that that was a justifiable act by that ICE officer.
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No, zero, as you said, the wheels are also Turned. And you can. And you can tell if the wheels are turned and he's looking at the driver, he can also see the hands turning the wheels away from him. And so anyone with half a brain can, you know, deduce that she's trying to turn away from where you are, not to drive right at where you are. It's unfortunate. I don't know who this woman is. I've seen reports that she is a US Citizen. Doesn't matter if she's a right undocumented individual or US Citizen. You don't die that way in such an unjustified way. But this is what they want. They want to go into our communities, surge these officers, and then hope that people resist. And then it gives them the justification and their own minds that they're looking for to commit violence.
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Yeah, I mean, they're playing with fire with this, though. I mean, this, to me, feels like this the spark point for something like what happened with George Floyd. I mean, this happened very close to where George Floyd was murdered to begin with. But like I said this from the beginning. Once this kind of thing starts happening, that's when you're going to see massive resistance from everybody in this country because, you know, a lot of people are blissfully just kind of going through their lives and just seeing news headlines here and there. But things like this are the thing that can spark an entire shift. So we need to use this momentum to really put the pressure on it.
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What I have also said as it relates to ICE agents and governors and attorneys general, you have so many emergency powers and law enforcement powers. These guys only understand one language. Either they're on offense or you're on offense. And if they're on offense, that means the most vulnerable people in our community are on defense. Something else that I would do, I call it reveal to Wheel. If you have ICE agents who are wearing masks and unidentified and you're a governor, take away their damn driver's license. Don't allow them to drive in your state. You know, make that a revocable offense. Again, they will get the message, I promise you, if you put them on their heels rather than them putting the most vulnerable in our community on theirs.
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So that's something I actually didn't know that. Just as it'd be clear like. So Governor Walls, who just yesterday announced that he was not seeking reelection, partially because MAGA has been throwing horrible, like, threats of violence against his two kids and him and obviously screaming the R word at the mansion, which just shows the level of maturity that we're dealing with a lot of these people, but a lot of these people are ICE agents too. So, so, so Tim Walls could, if he wanted to take their driver's licenses away. So they could not even. Okay, okay, well that's, you have a.
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Lot of states rights and authorities that affect their mobility and, and, and I think you can do all of that. And again, just go on offense.
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Yeah.
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Don't let them drive the narrative.
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Well, what did you think about and I think you said a little bit about this, but I want to be clear. So when Mayor Jacob Fry is his name, when he was at an initial press conference today, he literally said the words. He said I have a message to ice, get the fuck out of Minneapolis now. You have, you have been an advocate for this type of, of you know, being on offense before. Do you think that this maybe is a turning point? Because like when I looked at that I was like absolutely, yes. More of this because I think people have worried that some Democrats, present company excluded have been too me mouthed about this. But to me this is the moment and it seems like the mayor has stepped up and is taking at least initially the right approach.
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Absolutely. You know, I just talked to the, the new mayor of Miami last week, Elaine Higgins. Yep. And part of her campaign was to protect the most vulnerable in her community who are under attack. And then many of these people are not people who can vote for her. Right. I mean but she knows that they are friends and neighbors of the community. And so I think this has to be a clarion call for mayors and governors across the country that you have to protect the people you represent. And so that clear throated message from Mayor Fry, I hope it's echoed across the country.
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Yeah. So what, you know, people are obviously going to be looking to Democrats in Congress and obviously you are in the minority in both the House and the Senate. But is there and you, you laid out a very clear plan for when, not if, but when Democrats take. And you had. There's a famous clip of you. You know, I can't remember who you were interview you were talking to in a committee hearing, but basically like we are going to be in control next year. So be very careful about what you say to us now. And so we know that there's a very aggressive and robust plan post election. Is there anything that Democrats in Congress could do right now to rein in this current clearly lawless administration?
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Well, the margins are so thin right now. It's 218 Republicans to 213 Democrats. And by the way, there are A few Republicans, Thomas Massie, like individuals who don't like the lawless nature of this administration. So it's really just a matter of finding two other Republicans to work with, you know, to affect change. So I, I wouldn't write the other side completely off. I'd write most of them off. But you just need a handful. You know, this is the thinnest majority ever. And Mike Johnson doesn't have a shit together and he doesn't have aligned. And so, you know, where we can get wins, you know, for the most vulnerable. We should be seeking to do that. And one that I think you can do immediately is on the immunity issue. Look, immunity is there for many good reasons for law enforcement. When they're doing law enforcement functions, these guys are not doing law enforcement functions. They are taking civil actions, but they have this, as I said, this cloak of immunity that makes them act as if they are invincible. And if you strip that away again, I don't think that guy shoots into that car. If he doesn't have that immunity, I don't think he strips. Shoots into that car.
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Yeah, well, I think one of the disturbing things that I saw that there were at least they were stills of him sort of, you know, he's still got his mask up and he's kind of just standing there and it's like, you know, maybe he's in shock or something, but like, you know, then he gets in a car and drives away. Like, it's just. This is just. Is so madness to me. But as, as a, like you said as a former prosecutor, what, what are some things that people should know about their interactions? So if they become face to face with an ICE agent, is it the same thing as being face to face with a police officer? Or are there different things? Is, are they allowed to just basically walk away or what. What's. What recommendations you have of somebody if they come in face to face. The mask with a, with an ICE agent?
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Yeah. Well, first I will say, like, listen to the, you know, the legal experts in this field. I miss my days as a prosecutor. But I will say that, you know, these ICE agents are theoretically supposed to be taking the most dangerous individuals out of our community. And ideally, they would have local law enforcement partners. But local law enforcement, for what I'm hearing across California, they don't want anything to do with these guys because these guys give local law enforcement a bad rap. And, and let me just tell you again, I say that as a family member of cops. Cops in California are worried that the public may not be able to distinguish the difference between an ICE agent who's trying to be a local cop and a local cop who is a local cop, and that these ICE guys are bringing violence on local cops. That you. You may really be pissed off and want to take your anger out against an ICE agent. Not. Right. I don't condone that. But that you may be, you know, you may catch astray, so to speak, as a local cop, just because you're a cop and they think you're an ICE agent. So there's all sorts of other issues going on here that, you know, these ICE agents are affecting and people they're putting at risk. But I would. I would just say it's important, you know, to, you know, talk to local experts, know your rights. You know, obviously you. You cannot just unjustifiably shoot individuals who are moving away from your direction. That's not allowed.
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It's ridiculous. And I think she was one. I forget the exact term. I think it's a constitutional observer or something. Somebody who's essentially there to make sure that if ICE is there, it's their job to sort of.
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You are allowed to record with your phone. Yeah. You are allowed to be in public spaces with ice. You obviously cannot, like, interfere if they are making arrest. You can't come between them and the person they're arresting, but you can record it. You can be present, you can be a witness. You can hold them, you know, to account. There's a. A lot that you can do. And they want to do this in darkness. Right. That's their goal, is to have no accountability. And frankly, what I. If. What I would do if I was, you know, a mayor of these cities is I would, you know, publicize, you know, if you have a public camera system, hell, I would live broadcast the city's public camera system where ICE is, so that there's maximum accountability and maximum eyes on these guys. I don't trust them one bit. We were promised they're going to go after the most dangerous people in the community, and they're doing the exact opposite. They just killed an innocent woman today in Minneapolis.
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It's ridiculous.
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Yeah, it's just. It's. It's an awful situation, and I think it just points to this administration's lawlessness in general. Which leads me to the. The other thing which was going to lead. Lead this conversation, but was this, you know, this. This action in. I got kidnapping, a capture of Nicolas Maduro, the president of Venezuela, you know, and now is sitting in a. In an. In a. And in New York City, where I am. New York City prison. And actually in Brooklyn, where I am. What if you, I know that the administration was supposed to provide a briefing to all members of Congress. What, what have they told you about this? And if they told you any semblance of a plan, no, that's happened. Right?
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We've not heard a plan. And by the way, Donald Trump couldn't run a casino. Now he wants to run a country in South America.
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Right.
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No one believes he's doing a good job of running the country. He's supposed to govern in North America. So again, we, we shouldn't even give him the benefit of the doubt that he can do this. But if you step back and this is what I was, you know, saying earlier with ice, they're doing the exact opposite of what they said. This is a complete betrayal because Donald Trump promised that he would end all wars and now he has start. He's done the, he didn't, he didn't break that promise. He's doing the opposite of that promise. Strikes in Iran, Nigeria, Syria, Venezuela. He said he was going to bring costs down on day one. No one, you know, no one would say he's the first person in the world to break a campaign promise, but he's doing the opposite. The stupid tariff tax that he's put in place has jacked up the costs of everyone. He's over 350 since making that promise. And then he said he'd release the Epstein files. Again, no one would say he's the first person in the world to break a campaign promise. He's done the opposite. He's buried the Epstein files. He's way past the deadline of when they were supposed to be turned over. So he has, you know, really been the first politician that I can remember who campaigned on one thing, not only didn't do it is doing the opposite. That's the big betrayal of Donald Trump.
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Yeah, he pretty much believes that whatever he does, it's fine. Go all the way back to I could shoot somebody on Fifth Avenue, it's totally fine. He just, you know, it doesn't really matter to him whatsoever what the promise was. He's just going to execute it. I mean, the thing that I find the most interesting on a national security level is he pretty much railed against anything the Bush administration did because they were very neo con forward type thinkers. And then he's literally just stealing their playbook and doing the exact same thing.
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I was thinking about that today and I realized it's not, it's not as it's not that. So when Trump said Bush he's not going to have an endless war and that Bush never should have gone to Iraq.
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Right.
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It's now clear to me that what he was really saying was that Bush should have occupied Iraq and colonized it as America.
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Yes.
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So his problem with Bush is not that he went into Iraq, it's that he didn't, you know, colonize the place and make Iraqis Americans and make their natural resources ours. That's what this is really all.
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Yeah, that's the piece I'm interested in. Because to me, I mean, obviously Trump is saying the quiet part out loud with the oil element of this whole thing. It's very resource heavy thing. But then there's also the rare earth mineral element of this whole thing. I mean, I think that Trump is just looking at it through that lens alone. I don't think he cares about any other factor at this point. Do you, do you think that like he's truly motivated at this point simply by just, hey, I'm just going to steal your resources. That's the end of the story. Good luck. Or do you think there's a deeper layer to it than that?
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No, I mean, and, and so it's not about the drugs obviously right now.
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Clearly not.
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There's no fentanyl coming to America from Venezuela. Any cocaine going out of Venezuela is going to Europe. It's not coming to America. It's not about democracy for the Venezuelan people. He has kept in Maduro's number two. So let's just accept the argument that Maduro is a bad guy. I sure believe he is. Yeah, but if you think he's a bad guy, you can't keep his hand chosen person to run the country. The reason he's keeping that person and pushing aside the pro democracy preferred candidate that most Westerners would like to see run the country is because he doesn't think he can do a drug deal with her. He wants to do the drug deal with the person who's afraid they're going to be the next Maduro and just give us all of the resources. But again, if I step back and tell you what I'm hearing from Californians, going to war with Venezuela or militarize, using the military to go after Greenland ranks around 200th on the priorities. Californians, they would say fuck Venezuela. What about Vallejo? What about Ventura? What about the costs in those communities? That's not landing anywhere near the top.
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Yeah. And I'm no economist, but I don't think wars make things cheaper. At home either. And it actually hurts. He broke the record for most countries bombed in a single year by a United States president with eight. Nice. So. And we're, it's just, it's crazy. And then also there are reports out this morning that I read that the, the interim president of, of Venezuela is looking to purge anybody who might have worked with the US Military to allow for the capture of Maduro. So that doesn't sound like somebody playing. I mean, maybe it's a game that has to be played internally, but, like, it doesn't sound like she's particularly interested in this, like, ransom list, which they've basically have said, well, we're not going to run the country anymore. We're just going to give a list of demands and if we they don't do it, we're going to bomb them. Which I think was actually what Trump said.
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It sounds like they don't have their shit together. Is what you're saying.
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Shocking, right?
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Yeah.
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But also, if you're to your point of this is only going to cost us money, not save us money. It's not like we invade Greenland tomorrow and then when your landlord says the rent's due, you can say, hey, put it on Greenland's. Go to the grocery store. You could say, hey, Greenland's got this. Again, no one is convinced that the promises he made are being fulfilled by doing shit like this.
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No, definitely not. And I mean, I think that the only little silver lining in this stuff, I mean, I'm curious if you feel the same way, is that this won't work, like, long term for in terms of the midterms and any sort of election, this is doing damage to the Trump administration, even though they're asserting their power in a way that we all don't like. I kind of look at this stuff and go, well, at least in the end, people are going to look at this in, you know, 10 months and go, no, I'm not interested in that whatsoever.
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And that's why he's sitting at 36%. And if you really zoom out, you can say that Trump in his first year has declared war against every country. Because if he didn't attack you militarily, he attacked you economically with the tariff tax.
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Yes. There's no question.
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He actually. Well, I think it was Caroline Levitt who I think said that military options in Greenland are not. I mean, she put it at the last. But she did say we're not put it taking it off the table.
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Right.
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Which as I can't even believe I'm saying these words, but is attacking a NATO ally, we would be attacking our own alliance.
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Right. I mean, that's, I think that's probably really the goal. Right. Is for China, Russia and the United States. And Trump's worldview should just carve up the rest of the world and everyone else's client state to one of those three. I think that's the Trump world.
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Yeah, I think you're right about that. And I think that's maybe where you were saying like, that he sort of does overlap with Bush and like, maybe Bush wasn't going down that road necessarily. But I think that doctrine sort of overlaps to a certain degree with the, you know, early 2000s neocon approach to things.
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I actually will say for in Bush's defense with Iraq, I do believe that, like the goal was democracy in Iraq. I don't think it was our job to do. He was wrong to go in there. There were certainly oil interests that, you know, were extracted, but they did seek to have democratic elections in Iraq. It's been a disaster, which has proven why we shouldn't do it. But Donald Trump has not shown any interest in whether Venezuela is a democracy or a dictatorship. It's all about Donald.
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Yeah, yeah, as always.
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And speaking of that, because I want to, I want to pivot to your campaign. So you've announced, you announced recently that you're running for, you're running for governor of California. That election is in November. So if, if you are to win, you will be the governor of California while Donald Trump is in the last two years of his administration. I'm not going to even pretend about any of this third term bullshit. What will you do as governor to protect the residents of California against this lawless administration?
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I see it as the next governor of California has two jobs. First, to keep the worst president ever out of our homes, streets and lives. My four year old comes down, I've.
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Got a four year old as well. I know what you're going through.
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And the second job is to bring a new, affordable California. And I see that in affordable housing. I see it in small business growth in a state that has the highest unemployment and the lowest rate of new small businesses and to modernize, you know, the services the state delivers. I want us to be a place where, when we say it's the fourth largest economy in the world, that it's not just a stat, that it means something, and then that you feel like you're a shareholder in that and that every person in the state, not just the tycoons, not just you know, the CEOs, but everyone in the state has skin in the game. And so that's my goal as governor, is to economically grow the state, modernize the services, max out democracy. But on the first part that I said I'm the only candidate in the field who's in the arena right now. And I don't have to put an exclamation point on what I will do to be a fighter and protector on behalf of the most vulnerable. I was an impeachment manager against Donald Trump. I am a former prosecutor. I helped lead the Russia investigation. I've got the only surviving lawsuit against this guy for what he did on January 6th. So I know how to take this guy on. I think I'm just wired that way. And I see him as a corrupt actor and I'm not going to let him go through me to hurt the most vulnerable in California. And so that's the goal for the first two years. But to be optimistic enough to see beyond him and understand that there's so much more to California than just being, you know, attacked by this guy.
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Yeah. And on affordability, because that's a, that's a, that's the biggest topic and I think that's probably going to be that in saving our democracy in November. The biggest issues, but a little bit more specifically because my, my in laws actually live in Orange county and they have lived there for their entire lives. They bought a house in the 70s, my father in law was a fire fireman and my mother in law was a stay at home mom. If they were in California today, they would not be able to buy a home, at least not in Orange County. So what are some of the tangible things you think can do to help make a difference to lower those costs so that families like, like my wife's family will be able to experience the same American dream that her family did?
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Yeah, I'm going to declare an emergency on day one all across the state. The governor has done that right now in Altadena and in the Palisades. And we say that on the one year marker of that horrible fire that we're still rebuilding out of. But I'm going to do that in every county, all 58 counties in the state. And I'm going to tell every agency in the county, you have 90 days to approve or deny every outstanding application. So I'm going to give them a deadline because I believe that a goal without a deadline is a dream. So I'm going to bring a deadline to these agencies and we're going to surge workforce, affordable housing housing. Because right now, to your point and your family in California, the average age for a first time home buyer is 40 years old. And I want us to be a state where you can take your first job, have your first kid and buy your first home in the same decade. And that has to be the California promise. That's the new California promise that I'm going to make also for people like your in laws and your family members. Many Californians work jobs where they don't have pensions or investment retirement accounts. And it's also costing the state a fortune in how we take care of our seniors. For health care and long term care, what I want to do is have a California prosperity plan where small businesses will have their contributions to their employees matched by the state for the middle income earners. And my hope is that we can give every senior 1500 to $2000 more a month to take care of those long term health care costs and have less, have less of that coming from the state. So our plan is from housing to small businesses and then modernization and on modernization, I want to virtualize as many services as possible. Believe it or not, in a great state like California, you know where the tech economy has defined us, there's no front door app that you can use as a Californian to get your driver's license, fill out your small business permit, file your taxes. And I want us to be a state where it's not just, you know, tech CEOs do really well, but that tech has to benefit all of us economically, but also just personally in the way that we interact with the state. And then on maxing out democracy, I really believe that if you can make it safe and secure, we have to vote by phone. I have seen this in West Virginia, I've seen it in Salt Lake City. If you have blockchain is the way that you secure it. If you have an auditable paper trail where you can look at if there's any issues, we can dramatically increase the number of people who participate in our democracy again. We do our taxes, our health care, our banking, everything is on our phone through a biometric. We have to vote that way if we can make it safe and secure. So I want to be a governor that really challenges us to be a modern state that leads the way. That's very cool.
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B
And I was, I was chief digital officer for the state of New York. When I got there, I couldn't believe there was none of this as well. This isn't, this is a problem across the country and I'm glad that you're interested in tackling it. I got one question that I'm going to follow up with, then we'll let you go. So earlier you said that if you were the governor of Minnesota, you would take driver's licenses away from ice. Are you pledging if this is still an issue next year, will you take driver's license away from ICE in California?
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A
Yes. I should be on notice that we're going to prosecute you if you break the law. Your masks are not going to be welcome in our state and your officers will not be able to drive in our state if they conduct masked unidentified operations.
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B
Great. And then finally, how can people support you if they are interested in helping your campaign?
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A
Yeah. @ Eric Swalwell, 1L in the middle on all social channels and that's also the website. But join the team and share your ideas. And the question I have and if you want to DM us, what can I do that will bring less stress in your life? And less stress in my life would be if my 8 year old, 7 year old, 4 year old would stop fighting. But what can I do as a governor to bring less stress in your life? That's the question I've been asking at our town halls. I have a town hall this Friday at Santa Monica High School if anyone wants to join. We have one the following Friday in San Diego. So we're trying to be the most accessible campaign and we're getting 700 to 800 people at every town hall. And I like being like in the round in what I call like an ask me anything environment. And that's the best way I can listen, learn, and then ultimately.
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B
Act. That's great. Well, I know our, our audience will take you up on that order on that offer. So hopefully your team is ready for an influx of DMs. But Congressman, thank you very much. I know this has been a crazy day. We really appreciate you taking the time and we're going to have to have you back on soon, but thank you very.
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A
Much. All right, Zach. Thanks.
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B
Tim. All right, we'll.
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C
Talk. Thank you so.
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B
Much.