B (3:26)

Guy who accepted $50,000 on a broad.

A (3:29)

I was gonna say, is he gonna.

B (3:30)

Is he.

A (3:30)

Is he paying for his flight with the bag of cash that he's never said where it went?

C (3:33)

We should get him some of that. That Somali fraud money, and then, you.

A (3:36)

Know, boom, like, triple his money in no time. Yeah. So for those who don't know, Trump has. I don't know if I'd say walking it back today, but he is. He has said that he had a very. I don't know. He always describes the phone calls so stupidly, but tremendous, tremendous phone call with Tim Walls or pleasant or, I don't know, beautiful. He said beautiful phone, perfect phone calls.

D (3:59)

Yeah.

A (4:00)

He's also talked to the mayor, Jacob Fry, and his solution to this problem is to send Tom Homan, who runs ice, which is not really a great solution. And I think he also tossed in. He's going there to investigate Lomar because, of course, you got to throw some racism into the pile and not just admit anything, but they're losing that. The public opinion on this is so stark that only the most die hard. Right? I mean, no, I mean, like, I'm happy. Don't get. I'm a little surprised, but I'm happy. But, like, there are groups. I. I mean, there were two gun groups yesterday, the NRA being one of them after being silent for a day, because they are cowards and they don't deserve any credit here. But they did put out a tweet that said that one of the us. One of the US Attorneys had tweeted out something that's like, if you approach a law enforcement officer and you are carrying, there is a high likelihood that they will be justified in shooting you. Which is not true. And they actually came out and said that. And then there was a guy from the Minnesota Gun Owners association or something like that said, I've watched the video and it doesn't look like Alex Preddy did anything wrong. So there are fissures in a. Usual, usually like an ironclad group. I think they know they're in trouble. And the other thing I'll mention, and then we can go into it, is that one of the leading candidates for Minnesota governor today dropped out of the race. And the reason that he gave was that he can no longer support what the US Federal government and national Republicans are doing in, in his state.

D (5:33)

Yeah.

A (5:34)

And I think that is a big deal.

B (5:36)

I mean, I would like to point out that the NRA said that one thing that was good, but they're like far reaching statement on the thing was majorly sucking Ice's dick. I mean they, they did not do any of this where like, okay, he was all right. No, they, they're like, they're, they're broad reaching statement was, yeah, of course they.

A (5:56)

Suck to be clear. But even, even the get that one little thing.

B (6:00)

I'll give them that for them.

A (6:02)

Yeah, Zach, go ahead.

D (6:03)

No, I mean, like, I think this is the reason I was maybe the least alarmist or what about Trump getting elected is because I think that every single person, even the people who voted for Trump, there is a breaking point, like a threshold of their breaking point. And all we're seeing is Trump taking more steps and more people reaching that breaking point. And I think he's starting to realize, oh fuck, there are too many people reaching their breaking point right now because Trump, his main thing is how well am I doing? And at a certain point you can't spin it like when things are like not great, but like, you could probably spin it on Fox News and sound like it's fine. Trump thinks shit is going awesome and all the people who knows a year going, you're doing great, this is awesome. When it's shit like this, Trump reverses course in a millisecond because he's just like, oh shit, they don't like me. And he just, it's too real for him. So I think like I, I saw it's a very good call is what he referred to it as with Tim Walls. So, you know, pretty not surprising. And he said, quote, seem to be on a similar wavelength. I think Trump is coming to the terms of the fact that like this is just a bunch of lunatics that like what he's doing and Everybody who pretty much elected him is going to. Nope, sir.

B (7:06)

Greg Abbott says he needs to get that shit straightened out.

D (7:09)

That's really rough.

B (7:11)

Yeah. If all Hot Wheels is coming out, you're in trouble.

C (7:16)

And that's a, that's a big task for him given all the ice in Texas. You know, he's, that's.

B (7:20)

I know there's a fuckload of it. Ted Cruz evacuated.

D (7:23)

That's true.

A (7:23)

A day he did leave again. He went to Laguna for a fundraiser, I think. And then of course he posts this like, ridiculous photo that's like, here, I'm back. And it's like, you are. He's such a piece of shit.

C (7:33)

But, yeah, I think, you know, this is the closest that those people get to saying I did something wrong or I'm apologizing. People keep thinking that, that them failing will look like them saying we failed. No, them failing is we recognizing that they are failing and we say it and then we don't go, okay, well, now that, now that you recognize that you made some mistakes, now is the time for civility.

A (7:58)

Right.

C (7:58)

We have to stay on offense until, you know, I think that the direction we're going with the government shutdown, not to get into that too quickly, but the, you know, the potential government shutdown, like, yes, unmask, reduce the extra funding. Like there are things that a completely disarmed Democratic minority in Congress can still do, extract some concessions to slow it down. Right. At least, at least do. Just do the right thing. But if you can successfully slow anything down, that works, that helps. If you can, you know, pull things out of the, out of the budget and then get it through so that, you know, things have to materially change, that's even better. But anything to get us through the next 10 months to where we can do like, you know, push hard for impeachments and a full blown defunding and that kind of thing. It's all the right steps, but they need to keep, they need to push hard.

D (8:47)

I have a very hard, like, it's one thing for Trump to go ahead, a very good call with Tim Walls. I think it's a totally other thing to expect him to actually reverse course on a. From a policy perspective because Trump still likes the policy, he still likes ice, he still wants to do all this shit. I have a very hard time believing that unless Democrats actually fudgeing. Hold the line and don't cave, that he'll do anything about this. Like, he'll just be like, well, that was a little too much. And then he'll just keep doing it. Like.

A (9:12)

So there's two. There's two scenarios that I think are unfolding on Capitol Hill. So first off, Chuck Schumer said no Democratic votes for DHS spending bills. Which Department of Homeland Security is where I sit. So John Thune, the Senate Majority leader, kind of has two options here. He can put an omnibus with everything on the. On it in the. On the floor and risk an entire government shutdown, or he can do. Which is what the Democrats, I think, are asking for, is to break them all up into individual pieces and push it that way. So I don't know what Thune's gonna do. You know, I think you're right, Zach. Like, Democrats have to hold the line, but like, this murder, like, it's. The tune changed dramatically from Friday when there were seven Democrats on the House side that voted for this bill, which they should not have done, but they did. And some of them are already recanting because I think it was Tom Susie of New York said he made a mistake in voting for it. So the calculus is quite different here. I think the question is, how can the. Can the Democrats get these bills split up into individual bills and then just shut DHS down, or do we shut the whole government down? Yeah, and I don't know what.

D (10:22)

Thor, I don't need. I mean, whatever the price is, we need to pay it because it's just. We just have to do it. And I think, like, Rich, to your point, like, the number one thing in my head is unmasking them. They will do so much less like this if their face is on camera all the time. Like, I think that is the magic solution to at least cutting down the risk of like, this happening again. If your face is on camera and you're shooting someone in the head repeatedly, you. Then your guy next to you is clapping about it. You don't want yourself. Right. Exactly.

A (10:52)

Yeah. They actually said boohoo after this guy was shot 10 times.

D (10:55)

It's insane.

B (10:56)

Well, and they. They stopped somebody from attempting CPR because they wanted to. They wanted to count bullet holes.

C (11:01)

Good Lord.

B (11:02)

And they.

A (11:03)

They hear. You hear them in one of the calls.

B (11:05)

The who took it off him is 10. 10 yards back.

C (11:09)

It's ridiculous because he didn't communicate. He didn't say, I'm disarming him. Right. You can all watch the video. Like, these are just people who have no idea what they're doing. Best case scenario, they're out to hurt people if at all possible. Worst case scenario. And, I mean, you see him take the Gun out of the guy's, you know, tailbone, area of his pant line, like clearly.

B (11:32)

Six o' clock holster.

C (11:33)

Yeah, right, yeah, six o' clock holster. That's the, that's the, that's the term that you say it. I mean, he's got his forearms on the ground, right. Like he's, he's, he's in fetal position, essentially on his knees and forearms, both hands on the ground. And they disarm him and then they shoot him. I mean, and I, I saw something that somebody said. It's like, just like Call of Duty or something like that. I don't know if that was an AI clip. I, you know, I haven't independently validated that. That is certainly how a lot of those people are behaving, though. Definitely where they just think like they're owning the noobs, you know, and I, I think that's the people who, they attracted to this, to this, you know, private militia.

D (12:12)

Yeah.

C (12:13)

And it didn't have to get this bad, but the fact that, the fact that they were both, you know, both Renee Good and Alex Preddy were unarmed when they were killed. No criminal records. I was talking to my wife about this last night. I said, you know, it's not, it's not right or wrong, but it is true that, that if these were minorities with a, a criminal record, the whole national dialogue would be different. And they would be. And they would. There, there is nothing for Trump and his people to latch onto here. I mean, he's, he's a, he's a trauma nurse in the icu. He's for the va.

B (12:47)

There's a video of him giving a tear filled, tear filled speech for a veteran.

C (12:51)

He takes care of veterans or took care of veterans for a living and was protecting protesters, just standing with protesters. And that was all it took. I mean, there's nothing for them to defend. And so they just, they have nothing. There's no oxygen in the room for them.

A (13:06)

Well, do you watch them, like, twirl and twist and try to justify the fact that they were all super happy when Kyle Rittenhouse showed up in Wisconsin with an AR15 strapped across his chest and he actually killed two people.

D (13:20)

Right.

A (13:20)

They were fine with that.

C (13:22)

They were also unarmed.

A (13:23)

Well, on the 20 were unarmed.

B (13:24)

On the 20th, Kyle Rittenhouse tweeted out a picture of himself with a minigun saying, this is what I'm going to take to Minneapolis. And there were like thousands of Republicans who retweeted that they thought it was hilarious.

D (13:36)

Yep.

A (13:36)

Well, and also, like, they can't seem to. To like, they are. Like, this guy deserved it. But Ashley Babbitt, who was trying to break through glass in the Capitol. Her. She was murdered. Like, it just. They.

C (13:52)

You cried like this for Ashley Babbitt. Right. I'm like, no, no.

A (13:55)

She was breaking the law, committing a ton of crimes. Right.

C (13:59)

And they were, like, three hours deep in committing a ton of crimes, trying.

D (14:01)

To overthrow the government.

B (14:03)

Right.

A (14:03)

Somebody had a noose outside kill Mike Pence. They were yelling, where's Nancy Pelosi? Well, this is the same thing. I'm like, only if you don't know anything about either situation can you make that claim. Therefore, you're operating in bad faith, which is what they're doing.

B (14:17)

Right.

A (14:17)

But I think this time, it's always bad faith.

B (14:20)

But.

A (14:20)

But this time they're stuck because there are, like, the. The Rittenhouse situation is really the one where you look at that, you go, they are actually from a. Why you would approach somebody. The same. Except this guy was concealed carrying, which he had a permit for and was legally allowed to do. He wasn't doing anything wrong. They were like, well, he was an impeding investigation. He was waving traffic through.

B (14:45)

He was helping a woman with a camera. They were helping her up. The last words out of his mouth were, are you okay?

C (14:52)

Yeah.

D (14:52)

I hate that.

C (14:53)

Because he's a nurse.

A (14:54)

Don't forget that. Yeah. Because they are treated to care for people. The same with, like, when this. When he got shot 10 times, there was a pediatrician in a building next door who heard the shots and came out, and ICE would not let them treat him for several minutes. Yeah, like, they were. Oh, we administered aid immediately. No, he didn't.

B (15:12)

No, you didn't.

A (15:13)

We just. We just watched the film. Like, any of those angles, they. They were counting bullet holes.

D (15:18)

Yep.

A (15:19)

They were not trying.

B (15:20)

You can see them flopping his lifeless body around looking for the gun that the other guy had already taken.

A (15:25)

Yeah. They had no idea. And you can see it in. I don't know which one of the clips it is, but you can clearly see the guy pull it out.

D (15:32)

Yeah.

B (15:33)

Like stabilized version of the Pink Coat Ladies footage.

C (15:36)

Yeah, yeah. And cfh, unfiltered. Called out even that. And I'm. I don't have the eye that he does, so it's hard for me. But people who are close to. To guns say that the. The gun accidentally discharged at. By the ICE agent as he was pulling it out, which triggered the. If you've ever held a gun with a sensitive trigger, which I have, they Are they go off if you don't know what you're doing.

D (16:04)

Right.

C (16:05)

And, and that wouldn't surprise me. So, you know, he took it and it did. Look, the bolt action or the, the, what do you call it? Luke, help me out here. The slide slid back and there was a puff as he was pulling it away as somebody was yelling gun. And, or, or you know, he's got a gun or something like that. So like again, best case scenario, if this isn't as some people are saying, like, well, they need better training. Okay, that ship is sailed. They needed better training like two years ago. You know, they panic, they tackle a guy, somebody pulls it out, he accidentally discharges as somebody's yelling gun. And so they all unload on someone who is already submitted. Like even if he's still armed, both.

D (16:50)

Hands on the ground, they're shooting him as he's dead already. There's like the final shots. He's dead.

B (16:56)

Here's the whole, the problem with the whole they need better training argument. They're not bad people because they're untrained. They're bad people because they're bad people.

A (17:06)

Yep.

B (17:06)

Like when you look at the behavior of them when they say things like boo hoo after they just executed someone, or they say after they blast a woman who did nothing, that's not the behavior that's instilled in them by bad training. That's true who they are.

D (17:21)

It's true. Well, it's bad, if anything. It's bad screening and bad requirements.

A (17:26)

They don't even enforce PT requirement. But is it bad or is it deliberate? I don't think they care. I don't know. Stephen Miller doesn't give a shit. Right. Or.

D (17:37)

Doesn'T give a shit.

C (17:38)

I've brought this back up a couple of times because it's constantly relevant, but they are. And who knows? This is probably in the bill that we need to shut down. But they had a hundred million dollar recruiting campaign scheduled. This came out over the holidays and so it didn't get as much press. But Christy knows the DHS has $100 million recruiting campaign where they're using GEO fencing, which is if you're in a physical area, you get an ad on your phone. If you're not in that physical area, you don't get served the ad. They're using GEO fencing to target conservative campuses, to target NASCAR events and to to target gun shows with ICE recruiting ads. So they're using $100 million of our tax dollars to go to places where these people we're talking about consolidate themselves. And they're targeting ads to them to try to get them to go and join ICE so that ICE can get their 10,000 additional agents this year to go out and do more of what these people are doing. If I had to guess three weeks ago, I would have said there is a 0% chance this is not going to happen. If I have to guess now, I think we actually have a coin flip chance at either getting the campaign shut down or they put the campaign out there and people go, I don't want to do that. Yeah, I don't want to be part of that. And, and so, you know, it's on people as well. They have to respond to the job ad. So making sure that nobody forgets that this stuff happens, it will actually pay dividends. It just never had to get to this point in the first place.

A (19:06)

Well, this brings me to another point, which is actually, this is a, is a good segue, which is, you know, there's. We're sort of at the point now in this, in this country where everybody has to speak up. And there's been a lot of pressure this weekend on celebrities and influencers to speak up or go away.

B (19:24)

You know, silence is complicity.

A (19:26)

Right. And we're seeing it. I mean, there was even this woman who I used to think was super liberal, but I guess not. Kristin Chenoweth is a good example. She's a Broadway star. She was in the West Wing for a little bit and she, like, was posting like crazy when Charlie Kirk died. And you know what she fucking wore and you know what she posted this weekend as her post? It was like, what that, like, what does an owl do? Type me thing.

D (19:48)

Sweet.

A (19:49)

That's what she did.

D (19:50)

Relevant.

A (19:50)

After this guy died, after, like, like basically lionizing Charlie Kirk, this woman just went completely silent.

B (19:57)

And I think Kevin Hart's posting pictures of himself with his car.

A (20:00)

Yeah, it's just like, I think, look, if no one's willing to take a stand on this, you should stop following them. Yeah, just stop following them. Like, we have to start operating with our, with our pocketbooks. And even though, you know, following someone doesn't cost money, it does cost them money when they don't have as many followers. And I think it's time for people to stand up or, or you get nothing.

D (20:22)

Yeah, no, I'm with you. I mean, like, look, it's. It's sort of like, I mean, even being Jewish, it feels weird to say this, but it's similar to when, you know, the Nazism was rising up and the average German was like, it'll be fine.

C (20:34)

I don't know.

D (20:35)

I'm not so worried about it. That didn't turn out awesome. And not to say that this will turn out in the. At the same level of catastrophe, but I think there is a chance that this could get substantially worse if people are just like, well, you know, I didn't see it happen. It's fine. It's just in Minneapolis, like, all right, yeah, but give it a second. You know, it's. It's not going to take long for it to spread, like, because the more permission you give ICE to let this happen with no actual ramifications, the more likely it's just going to keep getting worse and worse and worse because they know that they can press further.

C (21:06)

You know, in the. In the spirit of giving a shout out, I pulled up a couple of quick lists of people who are not in the political pieces of. Who are not a list. Celebrities and. And athletes who have spoken out specifically regarding Alex Preddy. Billy Eilish, of course. Pedro Pascal, of course. I mean, I love that dude. Olivia Wild, Natalie Portman, Ariana Grande, Mark Ruffalo, of course. Wanda Sykes. Best person ever.

B (21:31)

Pat Noal.

C (21:33)

Pat. The list is probably shorter of. Of the good people, especially in Hollywood. But really, in, In. In. In sports is where you don't see it when it matters most because they're just. There's half of the. Half of the fans, you know, But Tyrese Halberton from the Indiana Pacers posted on X that Alex Preddy was murdered. That's it. Brianna Stewart from New York Liberty. Steve Kerr, of course. Golden State warriors coach routinely speaks out against the NBA Players Association. Broke the ice. That wasn't intentional.

A (22:08)

I don't like that one. I don't like that one.

D (22:10)

You're right about the sport. Like, sports is such a. That. That's really.

A (22:14)

Yeah.

B (22:14)

They did a moment of silence.

A (22:15)

They did, yeah. Adrian. What the hell is his name? I can't even. Yeah, he. He posted about standing up to fascism, so you gotta give him credit, too. But reporters, usually sports reporters, definitely.

C (22:27)

Vikings, Twins, other teams. Yeah. I mean, lots and lots and lots. You don't get an easier opportunity to do something, to say the right thing. This is like after 9, 11, you know. You know. Yeah. This is sad. Let's not have more of this. Like, just so. Yes. To be posting the owl videos. Like, those were cute for, like, I don't know, a minute. The Barack Obama one was funny. The Brooklyn one right after shout out.

B (22:52)

Real, real quick. A shout Out Lisandra Vasquez's video where she was Erica Kirk, and they got the Charlie Kirk music in the background. She's counting money and she goes, that's really good.

D (23:04)

She's on her game.

B (23:05)

Yeah.

C (23:08)

We should have left more time for the owl, apparently, but. No.

A (23:12)

But it's true. It's. It's time for people to stand up.

C (23:15)

Yeah.

B (23:15)

You can't stand. If you stand for nothing, you'll fall for anything.

D (23:18)

Right?

A (23:18)

Yep.

D (23:19)

I don't know. It's just like, it's so hard to get people to stand up when it, like, they just don't see the correlative between their life and what's going on. Like, it's like people. I think most people who aren't standing up look at it go, yeah, it's wrong, but what the. Do I care? And it's like, how. You know, I don't know how to get it through to people like that where it's like, yeah, but the precedent getting set is extremely dangerous, and it's awful. Like, for some reason, it just doesn't land for some people, even if they agree. Like, that's the scary part is there are people out there who, like, agree this is wrong, but they just. They don't give enough of a. And they just walk away. That's like the worst group of people. Like, we really need them to be like, hey, maybe say something.

B (23:52)

As opposed to being, like, the enemy of empathy. Right.

D (23:57)

And I got a lot.

C (23:58)

I. I think that's the cornerstone of white privilege. Right. It's like, the more power groups that you're in, which is all. All of us, except for Luke being married, because that is also a power group. But straight, white, married Christians and gun owners, you know, they. They're. Those are the people who are like, I don't really like to talk about politics. Yeah, because you don't have to talk about politics right now.

B (24:21)

The thing is.

C (24:21)

Thing is on cruise control and just.

B (24:23)

They're so stupid that they don't even realize that this thing is a precedent that affects them.

C (24:28)

Yeah.

D (24:28)

Yeah.

B (24:28)

Like, I know so many dumb fucks who carry a gun everywhere they go. I've seen assholes at the fucking subway getting a footlong with an AR15 scrap strapped across your back. And if the precedent is that a cop can fucking blast you 10 times because he sees a gun on you, y. You're. They don't get that.

C (24:49)

The. The thing that we were chatting with some friends over the, like, opposite case scenario, that would just be, like, beyond mind blowing. But imagine If. Imagine if, you know, in like 2012, Barack Obama had said, we're going to go door to door and just make sure that nobody has illegal guns in their house. Oh, my God. And we have a federal police force that is going to go door to door. We're just going to knock on your door. We're going to use all of your data, your Social Security data, your transaction data, your credit data, your tax data. We're going to use every single piece of data that we have. We're also going to work with every big tech company available. We're going to pull all this data together. We're going to just make sure, now that we know everything about everything, that the guns you have in your home are completely legal and safely secured so that we can protect your Second Amendment rights. He could have done that using the precedent that Donald Trump is setting right now. And so if we don't stop that. And they're like, yeah, but it'll never be you, Cox. You know, I'm like, you've never paid attention to history, right? Because we're always the ones who win in the end, right? It's always the good people have eventually won every big conflict in this country. They just live in this fantasy land where they're immune to the consequences of their own actions.

A (26:03)

And I, I think that the. The troubling thing is that there is a not insignificant number of people in this country who are totally fine with other people's rights being taken away from them.

D (26:14)

Yes.

A (26:14)

Again, this. The people who say, like, I, I don't like politics. That's just code for, I voted for that guy.

D (26:21)

Right.

A (26:22)

I mean, it's just at this point, I. It happened to me, like, I posted something on LinkedIn, which, you know, say what you want about LinkedIn, but I said something political and somebody was like, this isn't the place for it. I'm like, bullshit. It's not like, what are you talking about? It's not like business and politics are intertwined, bro. Like, there is no politics without business and vice versa. Like, I'm sorry that I have invaded your safe space where you want to talk about B2B bullshit all day long. But, like, this is real life. Guys, like, people are getting killed, people are being arrested with no due process. Like, that seems like a big deal that we should probably be talking about everywhere. It's a good point.

D (27:02)

And, like, it's honestly, you want to know who you're doing business with, you know, if you're going to. If you want to, you know, connect on LinkedIn. I want to know who the fuck I'm like, It's also part of like business culture. If you get a bunch of fucking assholes are going to come in and be like, I think it's great that ICE is just murdering and murdering. I am pretty sure your business isn't going to do great because the majority of people feel like I don't.

B (27:19)

You guys see, did you see the fucking furniture store that got whacked because the wife of the owner, I think she's also an owner, said something along the lines of we should just exterminate these liberals.

A (27:30)

Jesus.

B (27:31)

And I think it was Nathan June who did it for first. He made a video where he tracked him down and the husband had to come out and make an apology.

D (27:37)

Good.

B (27:38)

Because they were just. Everybody was on them.

A (27:41)

It does it being pro Trump. Unless you're a billionaire in a, or a, or a high millionaire like small business owner isn't it doesn't pay.

D (27:50)

No.

A (27:51)

What do you do? Good.

B (27:52)

Look, people don't respect it.

A (27:53)

Look, sorry miss, Miss Furniture lady, but like liberals buy furniture too.

D (27:59)

Like probably more furniture than welcome to a lot of the time too.

A (28:05)

But yeah, that's just like.

C (28:08)

Yeah, it's, it's just Republicans always have that like 40 piece sectional that's covered in dog stains and there's nothing else on the walls. It's just like white American flag. White walls, a blue line.

D (28:21)

Poorly hung American.

A (28:23)

Yeah, the blue line.

B (28:24)

Always, always the blue line flag.

C (28:25)

The thin blue line flag with like a Harley imposed over it. You know, under the, or you know, over the sectional. That's just. And then a 900 inch TV over the fireplace.

B (28:35)

But it's important to remember that that 900 inch TV came from Walmart and it was the cheapest one they make.

A (28:41)

From China. From China.

B (28:42)

From China.

A (28:43)

100%.

C (28:44)

You got it from Rent a Center.

A (28:45)

Okay, so that's a thing. It used to be a thing. It was like, yeah, buy this piece of furniture and pay $5 a month for like all of eternity and your children, your children will have to take it over when you die. The couch will be long gone.

D (29:01)

60 grand total.

A (29:03)

Don't, don't use those things.

C (29:04)

Our two Republican listeners are looking in their living room going, you guys are dicks.

B (29:08)

You guys.

C (29:10)

I like my TV. It used to work great.

A (29:12)

This one's only 800 inches. Well, let's talk about solutions. So we talked a little bit about the shutdown. Schumer has said no. No funding or no no votes for funding until there was a Real investigation. I think no more masked agents. There might have been one or two other things. I assume we are all in favor of Dems holding the line and shutting this shit down. Fuck yeah.

B (29:36)

As long as they're not going to fucking back out like they did last time.

A (29:39)

Well, that's the problem.

B (29:40)

I swear to Christ, if they start this shit again and they fucking quit out.

D (29:44)

I know.

B (29:45)

I.

D (29:47)

It's insane.

B (29:48)

I'll make a video calling him Cuck Schumer. I swear to Christ.

C (29:52)

Let's make a video calling him Tim. You accidentally said shut Down Schumer. And I'm like, that's actually not the worst slogan. We should start calling him Shut Down Schumer and just give him that badge to own.

A (30:02)

You're welcome.

C (30:03)

And then he has to choose. Mr.

A (30:04)

Minority Leader.

C (30:05)

Exactly. Shut down Schumer.

A (30:07)

We're doing your marketing for you. It's all done. Shut down.

C (30:10)

Yeah.

B (30:10)

Right.

C (30:10)

My work here is done.

D (30:11)

I did a threads post where I just had three things. I'd be happy if they did it. One was no masks. I think that's the most important thing. Two is no more warrantless entry to homes or vehicles.

C (30:21)

Jesus Christ.

D (30:22)

And three is no absolute immunity for ICE agents. That's like. That would. If that was all we got.

C (30:28)

I'd be completely. To be very clear, they don't have absolute immunity, but what do they call it? Privilege, or there's a name for it?

B (30:33)

Well, they claim they have absolute.

D (30:36)

I want legislation that states they don't.

A (30:39)

Is it qualified immunity?

C (30:41)

Qualified immunity, I think is the name.

D (30:42)

Whatever the it is, I want all that out that. Because that will completely change their behavior.

C (30:47)

Did you guys see J.D. vance's clips that were stitched?

B (30:50)

I didn't say he had absolute immunity. Then it comes back and he's like.

C (30:53)

I didn't say you talked about absolute immunity. It wasn't even two weeks. It was like 12 days.

B (30:57)

I think these people act like cameras don't exist.

D (30:59)

I know.

A (31:00)

Yeah. But they can say it because their supporters will just believe them or just not care. Yeah.

D (31:04)

They don't give a shit.

A (31:05)

So they just keep saying, like, the most important thing in that world is strength and not admitting any fault, which I would argue is maybe one of the worst traits that anybody could have, is to never admit fault. Imagine your whole go through your whole life never admitting a mistake. Like, how. How. How many. First of all, how many friends are you gonna have around you?

C (31:22)

Yeah.

B (31:22)

Like, none.

D (31:23)

It's just all, like, Trump. I'm never wrong. That's the whole thing.

A (31:26)

Oh, that's kind of good. That was kind of close.

C (31:29)

You see what you've been never wrong, always right.

A (31:33)

Oh, you got a little. That. Yeah, you're getting the size right.

D (31:38)

At the end where he sucks in a bunch of weird air. You're like, why are you doing this?

A (31:42)

Well, did you guys see that? This was like a thing the day before. Like, how messed up his hand was in Davos.

D (31:48)

Holy.

B (31:49)

He's a. He's a switch hitter for shaking hands now, right?

A (31:51)

That's why. Because it was his lefty, right? Yeah, like, well, though, I think they were like, oh, he hit his hand on a table. I'm like, do you know. Do you know how hard you'd have to hit your hand on a table to do what that did? I mean, I guess if you're ingesting 600 Tylenol. 600 Tylenol a day, that. I mean, whatever he takes.

D (32:07)

You know what I want? I want him to be on a bunch of long flights because this dude is going to get a blood clot because he's got chronic venous insufficiency.

C (32:14)

That's a long right, Zach, Don't.

D (32:17)

Maybe is. But just go on a bunch of, like, you know, trips to Asia. It'll be great. It's not going to be risky at all. Like, I don't know, he should be dead by now.

C (32:27)

Maybe when Air Force One had that electrical problem that was actually just Donald Trump's circuits that were going, going like.

A (32:34)

Gotta go lower, guys. Gotta go lower. The compression socks aren't working.

D (32:37)

He's gotta. He's gotta be like.

B (32:38)

He just needs like a whole compression suit.

D (32:40)

Yeah, exactly.

A (32:41)

Well, that's the thing. You see the cankles? He's got like. Howard, like, he must have a straight jacket.

D (32:46)

Oh, dude, he's got such bad swelling.

A (32:48)

His ankles are like twice the size.

B (32:49)

They used to be.

D (32:50)

That's horrible. I mean, that's like literally the biggest risk for a blood clot ever. I'm sure he's on crazy amounts of blood thinners, which is also awful for you. Like, I don't know. Every time I get into this, I just then think, well, fuck JD Vance to be president.

A (33:02)

I know.

D (33:02)

I don't think that's.

A (33:03)

But I don't.

D (33:04)

I don't think so.

C (33:06)

I think he would just. He would go hard pivot, like low key. Unlock big tech intrusion into everything. Yeah, Peter Thiel, he's just the shit, right? He's just a billionaire, you know, tool. He's not like a lot of the. I Think a lot of the, the worst intrusions into our personal lives with, with ICE and everything would, would scale back, but the tripling down with Palantir and stuff like that would dramatically.

A (33:32)

I want to talk about that for a second because this weekend Tick Tock had a bit of a problem and that when they shifted over to United States control, at least in the United States, the app is still broken today, three days later. I've had videos that have like likes on it and zero views. But like mostly no one's getting anything. So I thought allowing big tech to do whatever they want meant we were going to get this, these, you know, maybe in Donald Trump's words, like beautiful data centers, beautiful migrations of technology. But like these guys can't even move a platform without it shoving. And now they're going to be able to like with, if we allow them, they're going to be basically like every camera in our how homes and every Alexa is going to be listening.

D (34:12)

Oh yeah, like they kind of already are, I think, but they would just be less weird. They'd be like, we're just doing it. Like it or not, you know, this is what we're gonna do now.

B (34:20)

Tell you what though, I have been exceedingly disappointed by some individuals on the left's reaction to this Tick Tock thing.

D (34:26)

Like who?

B (34:27)

Because the sheer amount of misinformation that I've seen spread by people who have no concept of how the Internet works or how apps and servers works made me want to hit my head on a fucking wall.

D (34:37)

Yeah, it's complex and people act like, well, just press the switch over button and it'll be fine.

B (34:41)

Like, yeah, no, they're telling you we have data servers with no power. That means that the app is going to be fucked for a while.

C (34:50)

Right by.

B (34:51)

And they just, they're like, well, it's clear, they're reformulating the algorithm. They're banning all of the left wing creators. They're demonetizing all of them. And it's like, how about we wait 48 hours to when the app all the way comes back online and then you make your claims, you check to.

C (35:06)

Make sure it was plugged in.

A (35:07)

Yeah. Jesus Christ, turn it on and turn it off.

B (35:10)

Turn it back on to be the smart ones.

D (35:12)

Come on.

A (35:12)

I mean, I think that the only problem with that. I understand, you're right. The only problem is they're seeing Instagram be fine, Facebook being fine, all these other people, right?

C (35:21)

But like, yeah, nobody else migrated.

A (35:24)

Right? But if you look at right wing.

C (35:26)

Creators.

A (35:28)

Right, but if you look at right wing creators are having the same problem.

B (35:30)

Yeah, political creators. You can't even watch a video of a golden retriever that was posted today and you're gonna tell me that, oh, it must be, you know, they're cracking down. Come on, you have a little bit of common sense.

C (35:42)

How many owl videos I missed? I missed so many owl videos yesterday.

B (35:46)

Exactly. You probably didn't even see Christian Chenoweths.

A (35:50)

I.

C (35:50)

Unfortunately, there are a lot of reasons I didn't see Kristen.

D (35:54)

And I want to be clear.

A (35:55)

I don't follow her. It just magically appeared on my shirt. I think people are shooting.

B (35:59)

I don't so much better timed if you didn't say the part about you didn't even see it, Rich. That if you went.

A (36:04)

Who.

B (36:04)

That'd been hilarious.

D (36:05)

Oh, there we go.

C (36:06)

I thought of it earlier. I was like, if I can read this and like, Christian Chenoweth. Who?

D (36:09)

Who?

C (36:09)

It's my impression of a Broadway fan.

A (36:11)

Yeah. Well, guys, I guess we're gonna do a shutdown then. It looks like.

D (36:15)

Good.

A (36:15)

I'm excited.

B (36:16)

As long as they stand up.

D (36:19)

Holy. If my. My question is not anything other than if they don't stick to it, what the are we going to do to the people that it up this time? Because last time we had, you know what, like six people on our shit list. What do you do now?

A (36:31)

Because it is.

D (36:31)

Back then it was like, all right, it was a little more nebulous. I mean, it was healthcare, but it was a little less specific. This is pretty specific, what we want.

C (36:37)

Yeah, it's real straightforward.

D (36:38)

If there's a couple people that break just like last time, what the fuck should happen to them? That's what I want to. Not, like, do we. You mean like, like, should we try that break? Right? Do we primary them? Do, like, what the fuck do you do?

C (36:48)

I mean, how many worded letters?

D (36:50)

Right? Like, there's got to be more of those.

C (36:52)

Gets it done every time.

A (36:53)

I mean, I'm not opposed to a primary for anybody who breaks.

D (36:57)

Yeah, yeah.

A (36:57)

I. I mean, again, we have to see what the situation is, right? There's like unprecedented news every single day. So, like, I reserve the right to go back on that, but sure. But for the most part, no, fuck them. Like, if you're. If you. If you can't stand tall and say, I don't want federal agents murdering American citizens in the streets while they're wearing masks, you shouldn't be a United States senator.

D (37:20)

Yes.

A (37:20)

Yeah, that's it.

B (37:22)

I'm willing to.

A (37:22)

I'm willing to go out on a.

B (37:23)

Limb and take that hot take with you, Tim.

A (37:25)

Okay. All right.

D (37:26)

You got.

A (37:26)

Yeah, I got you on that. You got to think about, you got to think about that one for a really long time.

C (37:31)

You two and Thomas Jefferson. You know, it's weird, you know, the, the, the thing that's like a little insider baseball, I guess. But I had scripted a video about how we were not going to forget about Liam Ramos, and I, you know, shoot this video and I post the video and I'm like, okay. I felt like I said what needed to be said. I, I think people are going to hear this, they're going to feel it. It's like kind of what I'm looking for with everything. Thirty seconds later, you know, the, the Alex Pretty comes out. I saw that and I was like.

B (38:05)

There'S no way Rich knew.

D (38:06)

Yeah, no, there.

C (38:07)

Yeah. And. And the fact that now, like, it's like, oh, yeah, what was his name? Liam Ramos, the five year old who was abducted by ICE like six days.

A (38:16)

Ago or whatever at school.

C (38:18)

That's, you know. Right. Well, in his driveway after they got home from school.

A (38:22)

Right.

B (38:22)

Yeah.

C (38:22)

His pregnant mom screaming through the window before their teenage son comes home. That was, that was traumatic. And for the family, for the country. And then we just go right into this and it's. And then you're, you're relying on these algorithms, you're relying on these feeds so that we can control the narrative. Because we are, and I don't mean we, but the people on the left are controlling the narrative right now. Trump is doing things, but the narrative and the, in the polls and the public policy polls and everything are, that are reacting to what Trump is doing. They're 1,000% on our side. And so, you know, that's, that's a really important piece of it, but it is just like, I don't know, quick reflection on how absolutely overwhelming it is to be traumatized this frequently. Yeah. Where you can't even feel something before something else happens. Right, Exactly.

A (39:15)

Well, that's by design. I mean, they didn't design to kill the Zone, but the flood, the Zone mentality that they have talked about is exactly that. I mean, you're right. Like that kid, 5 years old in the blue jacket, we all saw the photos. Like that was just last week. The spider of last week. And, and the, in the administration lied about that too.

D (39:35)

Right.

A (39:36)

Oh, we saved him because he was abandoned by his father. Oh, really? In the driveway.

C (39:42)

You can't be abandoned in your own yard property. There's Adult in the house. Right.

A (39:48)

But I do think like, there is. While you're right, I do think like, they are, they are having one bad news cycle after the other because they are doing bad shit that we all said we would do. And this is fascist shit.

D (40:04)

Yes.

A (40:04)

That they're doing. Like, this is no longer a, you know, a theoretical. We are living in it. They are doing it. They are, are, are impeding investigations. And they still are not we. I talked to Keith Ellison last week. The Attorney General for Minnesota is like, has Department of DHS or the Trump administration contacted you? Or the Hennepin County District Attorney's office?

D (40:28)

No, no, it's the federal government investigating the federal government. It's like if you committed a murder, you're like, I'll investigate, don't worry about it.

A (40:35)

Like, no, it's like OJ Finding the real killer.

D (40:38)

Right. It's insane. I. That's the kind of where, like, I don't know how any sane Republican could look at that and go, I'm still with it. Like, that's right. At this point, you're no longer sane. Like, you lose the sane label.

A (40:49)

I heard Rick Wilson, who I am not a fan of, who was on with somebody last week and they asked him about that. And for those who don't know, he's a well known Republican strategist, has been a Republican strategist for a long time and then he went and founded the Lincoln Project. Someone asked him why is no one standing up? And his, his honest to God answer, which I actually believe is they are all of the members of Congress and, and senators and governors on the Republican side. If they are to buck Trump, they're worried about being killed.

D (41:17)

Jesus.

A (41:18)

That's their worry. Or, or threats of violence or, you know, like, you know, we heard from Stormy Daniels last week. Like, her mailbox got blown up, someone shot her horse with a rubber bullet.

D (41:28)

Right.

A (41:28)

Like, and then you imagine them going, if a Republican turns, turns on them, like, their, their vitriol is going to be even worse. So like, does he mean like the.

D (41:38)

Trump administration would kill him or.

A (41:39)

No, no, no, no. Sorry, maggot. The fans. The fans.

B (41:42)

That's the problem when you lie down with dogs.

A (41:44)

Dogs.

B (41:44)

You wake up with fleas.

C (41:45)

Yeah.

B (41:46)

And you lie down with a big orange dog.

A (41:50)

Yeah.

B (41:51)

And you've been laying down with him as he's done terrible, terrible things. And his buddies and his fans have done terrible things.

D (41:57)

Yeah.

B (41:58)

And now you, now you're expecting like some sympathy for that off. Because you're worried. Eat a Bag of dicks.

A (42:04)

Oh, I don't know. To be clear, I do not, like, I do not give them any pass on this. No, like if you are an elected official, it is your responsibility to stand up when you see things are wrong and they don't do it. Susan Collins is one of the worst offenders of this, right? Like this so called moderate in Maine. What the has she said about this? Oh, deeply concerned.

B (42:24)

You know, you're giving me pts.

A (42:26)

Mouth of marbles and red. Because she, she doesn't actually disagree with any of this stuff. She just has a, has played this game. And that is exactly why ICE went to Maine, right? Like my home state. We haven't even talked about this because frankly, like there's been so much other shit. But they said there are a roughly 1500, I think, undocumented immigrants in Maine and they, they were like looking to capture like a hundred of them. And when they captured a hundred of them, six of them had criminal records, 94 of them did not. So what the fuck are they doing except going there to try to help Susan Collins beef up her case to win another term, right? And like, I mean it's just, it's just awful. And I'm from Maine and it's like illegal immigrants in Maine. Like, what the fuck? Like, yes, there are some, no, there's not a problem. Like this is. If you had, if you were really worried about it, you go to Texas or Florida, right?

D (43:20)

It's just, I mean it's, you can tell like this is going to be like Dobbs on steroids for Republicans in the midterms. And I think that's why you're seeing Trump sort of back off to a certain degree as well, because it's like they're going to lose all their power. Because I think what's happening right now with Mag is just getting too real for them. Like they were really into this like sort of meme presidency that they had for a super long time and all of a sudden it's like, oh, this isn't funny anymore. And like even us are starting to see it's not funny anymore. It's like, yeah, it hasn't been funny this whole time. And now, I mean you're finding out and it's just, I, I think. Hey, throwing that in there.

B (43:55)

Good one there.

D (43:56)

Yeah.

A (43:56)

Are you suggesting that they around?

D (43:58)

I am and I'm suggesting that they're very much finding out.

A (44:01)

We're all finding out, unfortunately.

C (44:03)

I mean, I, yeah, I remember like, I don't know, a year ago, ish. Trump was talking about how he was going to do all of these things only to blue states.

D (44:12)

Right.

C (44:13)

You know, and only to. It's like, they really believed that the war that Trump is waging on justice and on the economy and, I mean, on everything is something that can be separated politically. And that's like, we could have all explained this to them, you know, 30 years ago, that that's not how the economy works. It's not how justice works. But they were convinced that they could stay insulated from it as long as they voted for the right person or they, like, posted the right thing on X or whatever. Sorry, Twitter. It's not the case. And. And now it's colliding, and they're going, oh, I see myself in these consequences.

A (44:53)

Oh, really?

B (44:53)

Whoopsie.

C (44:54)

Well, I mean, I think that was happening.

A (44:56)

I think the gun owner thing is a real problem for them.

C (44:59)

Yeah.

D (44:59)

Oh, huge.

A (45:00)

Because it. I can't even believe. Like, as someone who worked at every town for gun safety, I'm, like, mild. Mildly.

C (45:07)

Luke.

A (45:08)

I'm not saying fully mildly. Applauded them for the NRA for actually, like, saying, no. You can walk up to a law enforcement officer while you were carrying and not be, like, justifiably murdered right over unless you pull the gun. That's different.

D (45:20)

It's different.

A (45:21)

But, you know, I think. I think. And I think some of them are really. I mean, if you want to follow my Facebook page, you get some real entertainment. But, like, there. You know, I posted a few videos about, like, how are you okay with Kyle Rittenhouse and you're not with Alex Predding? Like, just explain it to me. Impossible. They can't even. There's not even a thing they can make up. I have to think it will make some of them. Not the majority, but some of them pause and go, hey, are we.

B (45:52)

Are we the bad guys?

A (45:53)

Are we the bad guys? Yes. Yes. Yes.

B (45:57)

Yes, you are.

D (45:58)

No, I mean, that's kind of what I was hoping would happen with the. With the economy. I was really hoping that would be the case and not this. Because this is like. Yeah, I mean, I guess the economy is human lives at stake, but not this violently, you know?

A (46:08)

Yeah. It's not as direct. It's. No, not.

D (46:10)

That's more over time. But, like, I think. I mean, you're gonna get both, to be honest. You know, everybody's gonna get in some way, shape, or form, whether or not it's you because you have direct. That's true. Hey, I borrowed it, all right? I didn't ste. But It's. It's for the whole. Find out.

A (46:25)

Luke, were you the first person ever to say get?

B (46:27)

I don't know, but I had the pride of somebody Of a black woman making a video not too long ago where she said, there's this white boy on here that says get. And she tagged me. I was like, that is the greatest, like, honor I've ever had. She's like, you curse so well.

A (46:42)

Like, oh, there you go. You do. You do curse well.

D (46:45)

You do, you do.

B (46:46)

It's good seasoning words.

D (46:47)

That's true. She's very well weaponized. I like it.

A (46:50)

Yeah.

B (46:51)

I use it for good.

D (46:53)

You do, you do.

A (46:54)

Luke, I'm gonna put you on the spot.

C (46:56)

Okay.

A (46:57)

And I think it's obvious. Do you have a good.

D (46:59)

Oh, my God.

B (47:02)

Pretty easy.

A (47:03)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Someday I will actually tell you that you. We're going to ask you this every week so you can prepare.

B (47:09)

It would be nice as we become.

A (47:11)

A big boy podcast, but we're clearly not.

B (47:13)

That's something we're gonna do.

A (47:15)

Pick up a big boy podcast. Yeah.

D (47:17)

I want to stay young.

A (47:19)

Well, everybody's got to grow up, Zach.

C (47:21)

That's true.

A (47:22)

We are. We do have lots of big plans coming up, which we can't talk about right now, and we can't. We were talking about one earlier today that is making me a little nervous because he's about to work. But it'd be really awesome if we. If we pull it off. So I'm not going to say it yet. This is. This is what we call a tease.

D (47:37)

O.

A (47:39)

There are big plans coming in February, my friends. So many things. But you know what you could do in the. In the interim?

D (47:48)

It's pretty good.

A (47:49)

You like that?

D (47:50)

Pretty good.

A (47:51)

You could pick up a find out podcast shirt to show your support.

D (47:57)

I gotta start wearing these to the. I never.

A (47:58)

Yeah, man.

D (47:59)

I wear them in my house all the time, and then I come to record and I'm not never wearing them.

A (48:03)

Only one wearing them today. Rich, you're usually pretty good.

D (48:07)

That's true, Zach.

A (48:08)

Luke, you wear them sometimes.

B (48:09)

Yeah, I got different stuff on today.

C (48:11)

Me Find out. Boxers right above the fly. It just says find out.

B (48:20)

I think we need to make that happen. I'd like to.

A (48:22)

Out of those. I think you. I. I think somebody might. Somebody might have created a fake find out site and sold you on that one. But it's not the worst.

D (48:32)

It's really.

A (48:33)

I've heard.

B (48:33)

I've heard way worse ideas.

A (48:36)

Well, I hate to break it to you guys, but we don't have boxers or briefs or any. Any undergarments.

B (48:41)

Real quick. Real quick. Boxers or briefs?

D (48:45)

Boxer briefs.

B (48:48)

Okay. I'm glad we can all be united.

A (48:50)

Yeah, yeah. Nothing like Borat wore, like his suit.

B (48:55)

Like the.

A (48:57)

I don't want to say the name of it.

C (48:58)

Like a unitard with a butt flap or something.

A (49:02)

I mean, it wasn't even. It was straight bikini in the back. It's one of the most horrifying. Yeah, yeah. It's one of the most horrifying things I've ever seen in my entire life. We don't have any of those either. I guess we could get a black one though, right?

B (49:14)

Like we get some assless chaps or yellow.

A (49:16)

His is yellow, so that fits our brand. But we actually do want you to buy some stuff that I think you'd like to wear, like this T shirt. We have mugs, stickers. Mugs.

D (49:30)

Hoodies.

A (49:31)

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B (49:35)

If you buy get for charity merch, you feed 100 people any piece of it.

D (49:40)

Love that.

A (49:41)

That's right. And you know where you can get that? Get this stuff, guys. In the findout podcast.com store@findoutpodcast.com youm've said.

C (49:50)

It wrong so many times. I don't even know if you said it right this time. I don't know what any of our web are.

A (49:56)

That was right. Find out podcast.com. yeah, the other way that you could support us right now, actually, there's two ways I'm gonna. I'm give you a freebie one and then a paid one. The freebie one is to go follow us on YouTube.

D (50:07)

Yeah.

A (50:08)

Because YouTube is probably the most important channel for. For our growth and getting out in front of new people. So if that's just at findout Podcast and then if you want to become a member, you can go to find out podcast.substack.com Nailed it. Boom. Slowed it. I slowed it down.

D (50:26)

I rush when I rush.

C (50:27)

I it all up.

A (50:28)

I It all. Yeah. I'm in my head, I'm like, is this right? Well, it's like last week I told everybody I'm terrible at introducing people and I introduced someone in our room by the wrong name that I've known for a long time. So I. The pressure with. The pressure's on. I screw up. But you can go to find out podcast.substack.com and get a six dollar membership, and that would help us a lot too. So with that, guys, I think we're going to End it. I don't know if we have a guest on Thursday yet. I think we got to work on that. Do we have a guest?

C (50:55)

I don't know.

A (50:55)

Maybe we talked about it.

B (50:57)

Maybe.

A (50:57)

Maybe. Also, don't forget we have our live show every Wednesday night. So when you listen to this, it'll be tomorrow night at 8:45, which. YouTube's probably the best, but you can get it on YouTube and Facebook. least we have to upgrade our account so we can actually connect more accounts, which I have not done that yet, but this is when I talk about.

D (51:17)

Us being a big boy.

A (51:18)

Podcast, we're not there yet, but you can support the lives are a little more casual. Bring a little drink. You know, you can just stream us on your TV and just watch us probably make fun of each other the entire time or listen to a guest before we have to cut them off and send them on their way, which I have done before, too.

B (51:37)

Oh, I don't know who you'd be talking about.

A (51:38)

We're not. We're not. We're not talking about anyone with stamps. He's not. They're not listening at the end. You just fucked up. I'm so dead. I'm so dead. Anyways, guys, thank you very much. I know it has been a very difficult week or, well, year in this country. We're so glad you're with us. We aren't going anywhere. In fact, more and more stuff's coming, so stay tuned. We'll be back on Thursday. Until then, have a great day.