Trump Is Having A Jimmy Carter Level Presidency

Summary

The Find Out Podcast

Episode Title: Trump Is Having A Jimmy Carter Level Presidency
Date: April 21, 2026
Hosts: Tim, Zach, Rich, Lucas (Lucas absent for part of episode)
Main Theme:
An unfiltered, witty look at the latest news around Trump’s second-term struggles—especially the Iran crisis, mounting economic woes, comparisons to the Carter era, wild administration antics, and some irreverent political gossip. The crew critiques MAGA world while poking fun (and sometimes despair) at America’s political chaos.

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Episode Overview

This week, the Find Out crew dives into Trump’s handling of the Iran hostage crisis and gas price surge, drawing direct (and often hilarious) comparisons to Jimmy Carter’s beleaguered presidency. The discussion unpacks Trump’s negotiation style, his administration’s chaotic messaging on Iran, fallout among allies, and the “signal vs. noise” around MAGA politics today. The hosts also touch on the right’s troubles with inflation, the effectiveness of economic sanctions, and some viral “only-in-Trump’s-America” moments—plus a couple of side rants about political opportunism and social media drama.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s “Carter Level” Meltdown Over Iran

Timestamps: 01:50–06:42, 09:05–11:13, 15:46–19:44

• Crisis Parallels:

  • Trump’s Iran debacle—missing airmen, sky-high gas prices, and the threat of a hostage situation—mirrors the 1979 Carter presidency’s infamous failures.
  • “He is literally having a Carter presidency. That’s crazy.” — Zach (06:06)
  • Trump is reportedly obsessed with the Carter analogy: “The hostage crisis is what doomed the Jimmy Carter presidency… You knew about that? Somebody told you.” — Lucas (05:41-05:46); “Wow, look at that history lesson.” — Zach (05:48)
  • Carter’s self-sacrifice vs. Trump’s self-interest: Carter sold his peanut farm, Trump (jokingly) offers bombs and rage tweets (06:21).

• Negotiation Style:

  • Trump’s “cry wolf” warnings and bombastic threats are losing credibility: “...when you cry wolf a million times over… people become numb.” — Lucas (03:38)
  • Hosts ridicule the supposed deal: “He keeps framing it like… ‘We’re doing what Obama and no other president could have done.’ Like, we’re eventually going to get to this place that nobody thought we could get.” — Tim (11:13)
  • Reports of Trump nearly being excluded from war meetings due to instability: “They’ve kicked him out of some meetings about Iran because he’s so unstable and crazy.” — Rich (02:32).

• Optics and Reality:

  • Social media threats as policy: “He’s just too old for this… He’s like, this is hard, I want to golf.” — Lucas (10:13-10:16)
  • Iran’s trolling and AI-generated content is outdoing Trump’s old-school Twitter game: “They’re beating Trump at his own game. This troll… they’re trolling the fuck out of him.” — Zach (07:45)
  • The real challenge is not military, but economic—especially with gas prices stalled and no easy fix, “It’s going to take a very long time—well past November, which is what he’s really worried about.” — Tim (08:55)

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2. Administration Incompetence, Gas Prices, and False Promises

Timestamps: 08:17–14:44, 16:25–17:49, 26:11–29:27

• Gas Prices & Oil Crunch:

  • Treasury signals high gas prices through 2027, Trump claims immediate relief: “Nope, nope, they’re going to drop immediately.” — Rich imitating Trump (08:17)
  • The reality: Disabled oil tankers, logistical backups, and months to restore the oil flow (08:31-08:59).

• Iran Negotiation “Deal”:

  • Trump would offer $20B to Iran for their uranium—a deal more generous than Obama’s (11:51–12:22):
    “Remember how all Republicans lost their minds when Barack Obama released $1.7 billion… you’re giving them $20 billion?” — Tim (12:05)
  • Hypocrisy in GOP messaging: “They just control the optics… now it’s like $20 billion, no big deal.” — Zach (12:39)

• Tariffs and Economic Fallout:

  • Trump admin begins refunding $166B in tariff revenues, but only to businesses (not consumers): “$166 billion is going back to balance sheets, not to the customers who covered the balance.” — Lucas (27:11)
  • Tariffs billed as a populist win, end up a boondoggle for big companies: “Small business stimulus!” — Lucas (27:59)
  • Costco’s hot dogs as the inflation barometer: “As long as I’m here, there’ll be a dollar fifty. Like that’s…” — Rich (28:11)

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3. Veepstakes, GOP Infighting, and Political Fallout

Timestamps: 17:49–19:59

• J.D. Vance as the Flailing VP:
  • “Everything he touches falls apart… What did you do besides kill the Pope and not get an Iran deal?” — Rich (18:14)
  • Vance as a calculated opportunist: “I wouldn’t underestimate Vance. Vance has an ability to weasel out of shit…” — Zach (18:52)
  • Doubts about a VP’s future run: “No VP in history has ever successfully run as the change candidate after their ticket…” — Lucas (19:44)

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4. Cash Patel, Defamation Theater, and “Deep State” Paranoia

Timestamps: 20:55–26:06

• Cash Patel’s $250M Lawsuit Against The Atlantic:

  • Patel, the scandal-prone FBI Director, sues for alleged defamation about his drunken antics:
    “Would awfully read. So apologies for that, but everybody should go read it because it basically talks about him… being a complete alcoholic…” — Tim (21:07)
  • “Quarter billion dollars… for you to defame me for something that… We have video of him chugging beers in the men’s locker room.” — Tim (21:38–21:43)
  • Lawsuit as media intimidation—not likely to win: “It’s intimidation. It’s intimidation tactic. Never works.” — Tim (23:29–23:33)

• “Deep State” & Federal Agency Drama:

  • The myth that all federal workers are lefties: “There are conservatives that work in the federal government… I looked up and they had Fox News on…” — Rich (25:33)
  • Civil servants will leak on officials they despise: “If you do something that the federal employees do not like, they will leak the… out of it.” — Tim (24:57)

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5. RFK Jr., Health Policy, and Bananas Presidential Appointments

Timestamps: 32:28–43:32

• RFK Jr. at HHS:

  • Becerra’s accomplishments vs. RFK Jr.’s destructive budget: “He was handed a balanced budget for HHS and somehow, I think, within like six months, turned it into a $50 million deficit…” — Lucas (32:28)
  • Deep skepticism of RFK’s qualifications: “Turns out that hiring a narcissistic, former heroin addict, habitual liar, habitual womanizer with a law degree and no health experience… was maybe not the right choice…” — Tim (33:57)
  • AI-generated and real RFK Jr. outbursts: “I saw this AI video of RFK Jr… He said, ‘I’m going to wage a war on fat children…’ No, it’s fat gay kids.” — Zach / Rich (34:22–34:28)
  • Worm-eaten brain story: “He claimed… he couldn’t pay alimony because he had such cognitive decline from the worm eating his brain. And then 15 years later… ‘I could be president.’” — Tim (35:16)

• Devastating Cuts to Public Health:

  • “25% budget cut for HHS… includes a 40% decrease in National Institute of Health funding and a 25% cut of the HHS workforce…” — Lucas (39:33–39:45)
  • Government funds most medical innovation, not pharma companies: “It’s tremendously bankrolled by the US Government, and now it’s like, well, good luck improving…” — Zach (40:50)

• Kennedy Legacy Shaming:

  • “JFK was great. RFK was great. You suck.” — Rich (41:44)
  • “He got zero people in his family to support him. So that’s gotta tell you something.” — Zach (42:50)
  • Classic quote cited: “I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy.” — Rich/Tim (43:11)

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6. Political Horse Race—California Gubernatorial Polls

Timestamps: 30:32–32:28, 44:05–45:17

• Becerra Surge:
  • “Right after he came on the Find Out podcast on Thursday… he goes from like 4 or 5% to 15%.” — Tim (31:01)
• Progressive Consolidation:
  • Betty Yee drops out, increasing pressure for others to exit and avoid split votes: “There’s going to be massive pressure on those guys to drop out because we can’t have seven candidates.” — Rich (44:43)
  • Aim is to avoid a Republican-only general election, echoing Democratic consolidation behind Biden in 2020 (45:17).

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7. Bonus: Social Media, Merch, and Inside Jokes

Timestamps: 47:30–54:30

• The hosts riff about YouTube subscriber plaques, proper pronunciation of “ibogaine,” and the perils of user names being auto-engraved.
• A new “Find Out” social app is coming: “An algorithm-free, billionaire-free social platform…” — Tim (51:35)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “When you cry wolf a million times over… people become numb to—when there is an actual wolf, the whole thing loses its punch. It’s a terrible negotiation strategy.” — Lucas (03:38)
• “He did write the book, you know… He did not write the book.” — Lucas & Zach mock Trump’s ‘Art of the Deal’ (04:12–04:18)
• On AI trolling: “They’re killing it… This troll, he’s like a troll, you know, they’re trolling the fuck out of him… it’s great.” — Zach (07:45)
• On J.D. Vance: “Everything he touches falls apart… what did you do besides kill the Pope and not get an Iran deal?” — Rich (18:03–18:14)
• “Turns out that hiring a narcissistic, former heroin addict, habitual liar, habitual womanizer with a law degree and no health experience… was maybe not the right choice to be in charge…” — Tim (33:57)
• Classic callback: “I served with Jack Kennedy… Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy.” — Rich (43:11)

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Episode Flow & Tone

• Candid, irreverent, and often laugh-out-loud funny—the hosts balance sharp political analysis with wild asides and honest frustration.
• Language is direct and conversational, full of in-jokes and pop culture references (e.g., Taco Tuesday, Costco hot dogs, “roadkill genitalia,” the “deep state”).
• The group maintains an anti-MAGA but anti-echo-chamber vibe. They are harshly critical of Trump and his circle, but not afraid to poke fun at “their own side” when warranted.

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Important Segments & Timestamps

• 01:50: Main Trump/Carter comparison and Iran crisis intro
• 05:41–06:21: Trump’s political panic over being “the next Carter”
• 09:05 – 11:13: Oil, gas prices, and global fallout
• 12:05: Trump’s “deal” with Iran and GOP hypocrisy
• 15:46–19:44: Iran deadline, gas, and the veepstakes mess
• 20:55–26:06: Cash Patel’s drunken lawsuit and “deep state” conspiracies
• 32:28: RFK Jr.’s HHS disaster, viral AI moments, and Kennedy family shade
• 44:05–45:17: Democratic consolidation in California races
• 51:07–54:00: Listener inside joke: “fire ants in the comments” and closing banter

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How To Use This Summary

• Want to sound up-to-date on post-2024 Trump politics? Use this as a cheat sheet—it captures the absurdity, critical details, and the podcast’s signature shade.
• If you missed viral moments (Iran TikToks, RFK memes), notable policy contradictions, or inside-left/Biden-world gossip—this recap has your back.
• For the extra laughs: Don’t skip the banter about social media misinformation, personalized YouTube plaques, and wild political side quests.

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“Fire ants in the comments!” — If you made it this far, you’re a true Find Out fan.

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[Podcast Host Zach]

Foreign.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Hey everybody, welcome back to the Find out podcast. You've got Tim, Zach and Rich today. Lucas off today. So we have so many things to talk about.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Actually 5 minutes ago we were like, wait, what are we talking about?

[Podcast Host Tim]

But there's actually a lot of stuff.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Always never not.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I know.

[Podcast Host Rich]

It's like the one thing that Trump does provide is plenty of things to talk about. It's like the only, only net benefit, which isn't really a benefit.

[Podcast Host Tim]

But anyways, so we are recording on Monday.

[Podcast Host Rich]

So obviously you're listening to this on Tuesday, which is Iran ceasefire day.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Yeah, Tuesday. It's another Tuesday.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Why is he doing this?

[Podcast Host Tim]

So, so I know he's. Why would he purposely.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Did nobody be like Mr. President, that

[Podcast Host Tim]

is Tuesday and there's this thing called Taco Tuesday. You know what?

[Podcast Host Zach]

They're too afraid to tell him. I guarantee it.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I guarantee corre.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Well, did you hear there was reports that they've kicked him out of some

[Podcast Host Rich]

meetings about Iran because He's so unstable and crazy. They're like, you have to go. Just go.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

How do they do that?

[Podcast Host Zach]

What's the process of like, Mr. President, you're not allowed in.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Do you think it was like, oh, we have some Diet Cokes over there. Do you want to go get them? They're down at the end of the hall. You just got to go get it.

[Podcast Host Zach]

A big man next to.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

When you need to do that. You have to play to their ego. We don't want to waste your time with trivial bullshit when it really matters. That's when we're going to call you in.

[Podcast Host Zach]

That's.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

And, well, and Mr. That's when we need your guidance.

[Podcast Host Rich]

This is a logistics meeting. He'd be like, oh, it.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I'm out. Yeah, I'm out.

[Podcast Host Rich]

In. There will be no pictures on the screen. They will all be words. He's like, I'm done.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Right.

[Podcast Host Tim]

So.

[Podcast Host Rich]

So I was just reading POLITICO's midday newsletter and to, you know, Trump had some real, like, Shakespearean language when he was referring to tomorrow, which he says,

[Podcast Host Tim]

if there's no deadline, if the deadline passes, then there will be quote, unquote,

[Podcast Host Rich]

then lots of bombs start going off.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yes.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Yep.

[Podcast Host Rich]

So eloquent.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Very good.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Why do you think that? That's like. I mean, he's. He already played the I'm going to commit genocide card, and he didn't commit genocide, which is right. It's like, I don't. I don't want him to go through with his threats, but when you cry wolf, like, a million times over, and then there's never a wolf, people become numb to, obviously, when there is an actual wolf, and then the whole. The whole thing loses its punch. It's a terrible negotiation strategy.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Wait, are you.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Are you suggesting that Donald Trump is not a good negotiator?

[Podcast Host Zach]

He's terrible at it.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I mean, he did. He did write the book, you know, but I just feel like he never.

[Podcast Host Zach]

He did not write the book.

[Podcast Host Tim]

For those listening, Rich had some air

[Podcast Host Rich]

quotes up about writing the book because we all did it. Who The. By the way, the ghostwriter hates his guts, too.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Of course.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Hates him.

[Podcast Host Rich]

I just wrote this. He didn't do anything.

[Podcast Host Zach]

No. Crazy. I saw a Fox News, like a TikTok thing of somebody looking at a Fox News thing, and the guy's like, I just talked to President Trump for 20 minutes. He said, if he doesn't get the deal done, I'm just going to blow the whole country up.

[Podcast Host Tim]

That today.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I don't know if it was today. I think it was today or yesterday. Just going to blow the whole country. Look at like a guy who's literally in charge of nuclear weapons. Said, I'm just going to blow the whole country up.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Well, great.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Who are the random people talking to Trump about?

[Podcast Host Zach]

Like some Fox reporter, of course, gets 20 minutes with Trump on the phone.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I know.

[Podcast Host Zach]

God.

[Podcast Host Rich]

It wasn't like Tiger with another DUI calling the president from the road like, POTUS screwed.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Got a problem.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

There was, there was an article the other day, I think it was in the Wall Street Journal about that exact thing. Apparently, like when the jets were shot down. Trump very much does not want to be in Iran right now. Like, he is so terrified of the political consequences that are real and happening. Apparently when those jets got shot down, he went on like a two hour tirade and just like berated everybody. And he said that it was that the hostage crisis is what doomed the Jimmy Carter presidency. I was like, you knew about that?

[Podcast Host Zach]

Somebody told you.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I'm so proud.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Wow, look at that history lesson.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I know, I know. Somebody gave him a index card and it's like, Jimmy Carter lost hostages. Right. Like, it's actually real.

[Podcast Host Zach]

He's right. What a rarity.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Wow. And along with, ironically, inflation and economic struggle. Starting to see.

[Podcast Host Zach]

He's literally Carter presidency. That's crazy.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Oh, that's a big.

[Podcast Host Zach]

That's a good video.

[Podcast Host Rich]

I would argue right there, that is a rich.

[Podcast Host Tim]

But it's also worse because Jimmy Carter

[Podcast Host Rich]

didn't do the inflation.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

No, like, that wasn't.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Like he didn't.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

He sold his peanut farm to get rid of like, so that there wouldn't be a conflict of interest. Like, it's kind of like that's. And that's the video right there. The two most opposite people who could have ever lived suffered the same fate because the economy comes for everybody.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Rich magic.

[Podcast Host Rich]

You're gonna get like 5 million on that thing.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

That's gonna kill it.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Oh, the maggots are gonna lose their minds. Yeah, I'm the first one.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

It was a video. You said it was my video.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I want 5% of this. All right, I gotta do a little bit of.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I'll tag you as a contributor and then people will be like, why'd you tag that fucking Republican?

[Podcast Host Tim]

Also, have you.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I'm so sorry.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Also, have you seen the, the AI

[Podcast Host Rich]

videos that Iran keeps releasing?

[Podcast Host Tim]

Mocking him.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Like, they do a good job.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I mean, like, they are really prompting the out of those videos. They're killing it.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Also, one of them was from the Iranian embassy in Indonesia.

[Podcast Host Rich]

I'm like, what is the. Like, what's the approval process for that? Do you, like, call Tehran and be like that? You're like the, you know, no, nothing to do with this. Like, guys, we have an idea. Here's a file. You could use it.

[Podcast Host Zach]

It's great.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I'm pretty sure that their formal approval process for social media posts is probably not functioning right now in Tehran. I think it's more like guerrilla social media warfare, which is the worst kind of warfare to try to fight, honestly, for a big. For a big.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Where the kind of beating Trump is. They're beating Trump at his own game. This troll, he's like a troll, you know, they're trolling the fuck out of him. You know, it's great.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I mean, they're usually the ones like,

[Podcast Host Rich]

back in the day talking about wiping America off the map. And he like, like playbook. And everybody went, yeah, but you're not, you're not a dictator. Like, like, this doesn't work at a democracy. Like, it does there. But then the other part that's really funny is that. So Scott Besant, the Treasury Secretary, was like, well, you know, gas prices are probably going to stay high into 2027. And Trump goes, nope, nope, they're going to drop immediately.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

They're.

[Podcast Host Tim]

And like, we've heard from Mr.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Global, who hosts American Power on the Findout Media network and is like, go check, check it out for sure. And he's like, at least a year, if not two, because of the backup that has happened here.

[Podcast Host Tim]

And it's really interesting to hear him.

[Podcast Host Rich]

You should go listen to the podcast. But, you know, he's basically like, the first thing they all have to do is go get refueled because they've been sitting in the straight of Hermuz for

[Podcast Host Tim]

over a month now and they have no gas.

[Podcast Host Rich]

And do you know how long it takes to fill a tanker like that with just gas to move the boat?

[Podcast Host Tim]

24 to 36 hours. There are a thousand of them in

[Podcast Host Rich]

the straight right now.

[Podcast Host Tim]

So, like, they're not going to just arrive on our shores and we're going

[Podcast Host Rich]

to be flush with oil again.

[Podcast Host Tim]

It is going to take a very long time.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Well past November, which is what he's really worried about.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah, that's his big problem. It's great. I love it.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I found the article is. It's just. It's just great. I want everyone to hear a little bit of it. So it seemed like Donald Trump's appetite for risk had run out and his fears were ramping up. It was Good Friday Afternoon in a nearly empty West Wing. Soon after the President learned an American jet had been shot down with two airmen missing. He screamed at AIDS for hours. The Europeans aren't helping, he said repeatedly. Gas prices are $4.09. Images of the 1970 Iranian hostage crisis, one of the biggest failures ever, had been looming large in his mind. People who have spoken to him said. And he demanded that an invasion to go get them, or not, I mean, tactical invasion, to go get them immediately. Anyway, he, like, it was a whole, that was his whole Easter weekend and then that culminated with his Open the straight, you crazy bastards or you'll be living in hell and the threat of genocide. So like, when you, when you look at the timeline, he had a mental breakdown. Like he crashed out and he just turned it immediately into social media threats of, of genocide and potentially really bad war.

[Podcast Host Zach]

So it's nuts.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

As real as it is, he's just

[Podcast Host Zach]

too old for this. Like, that's just a huge chunk of this.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

He's like, this is hard. I want to golf.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I know, right? If you ever watch his, his press car, like when they go into the Oval Office, like, did you see the one he did with Joe Rogan behind him when he started Ibogaine. Like he's falling asleep as he's trying to pronounce this. I, I began, I began. Am I saying it right? Like, I'm just like, this dude is just like. So he's already horrible reasoning on top of being a sundowning 79 year old man. It's painful to watch.

[Podcast Host Tim]

He has to sit down. Like, the reason that they do that, right, is because he can't stand, can't stand for very long because he's got those swollen cankles. God knows what that is. I mean, I guess they've explained a

[Podcast Host Rich]

little bit of it, but like we still see the. On his hands and whatever.

[Podcast Host Tim]

He is an old ass man. He's also very dumb. Like, he's a marketer, right? He's a brilliant, very smart marketer. Like him or hate him, he is a, like he elected twice. So like, you have to give it, but like, he is a dumb person. It's like, why do you think no US president has done this in 47 years? Like, it's not hard.

[Podcast Host Zach]

That's the funny thing is they keep framing it like the Trump administration keeps framing it is like, well, we're doing what Obama and no other president could have done. Like, we're eventually going to get to this place that nobody thought we could get. It's like what place are you talking about?

[Podcast Host Tim]

Obama did get it.

[Narrator/Commercial Voice]

Like, he did.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Exactly. That's what I'm saying. It's like, what do you think didn't happen in the original Iran deal that should have? And what are. What is even close to being on the horizon of reality that you're about to achieve? Like, it makes no sense.

[Podcast Host Tim]

And also the deal that they've talked about, because they've obviously floated some of

[Podcast Host Rich]

this probably to see if people got pissed off or not.

[Podcast Host Tim]

One of the reports is that in order for Iran to handle over their Uranium. Uranium. Uranium.

[Podcast Host Rich]

The enriched uranium. Yeah.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Trump is willing to give them $20 billion. Remember how all Republicans lost their minds when. When Barack Obama released $1.7 billion worth of their funds?

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Tim]

What? And also my understanding, and I could be wrong, some of that money is actually money that the families of the Beirut bombing in 1970, 1983, are supposed to get from Iran because they obviously

[Podcast Host Rich]

funded the people who bombed in Beirut.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Tim]

And Trump's talking about giving it back to them.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Great.

[Podcast Host Tim]

As part of the 20.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

So why not?

[Podcast Host Tim]

Why? Why is less than 10% of what he's talking about? They were like, Obama's just like, given these terrorists money. I'm like, you're giving them $20 billion?

[Podcast Host Zach]

Like, what? Because, like, they just control the optics. I remember when that happened, they were like, well, they hand over 400 million in cash. It's like, like, yeah, okay, it's part of the deal. And now it's like 20 billion. 20 billion, no big deal.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

It was frozen money from the exact.

[Podcast Host Tim]

It was their money.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

You didn't like how they got it. But, like, dude, he's, he's, he's on true social, like, crashing out right now, consecutively. He posted.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I gotta look at this.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

He posted four hours ago, screaming about the Iran can never have a nuclear weapon. Then 41 minutes ago, screaming about how his deal is going to be far better than the JCPOA. Obama's nuclear deal. 41 minutes ago. 36 minutes ago. Another page long screen.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Oh, my God. I'm looking at it now. It's nuts.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

The Democrats are doing everything they can despite World War I, World War II, the Korean War, the Vietnam War. He's like, rattling off how long they all took. And the war in Iraq, what?

[Podcast Host Zach]

Five minutes ago. By winning the war by a lot. Yeah.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

And then. And then again, five minutes ago, I'm winning the war by a lot. Things are going very well. Each one of these are like a page long.

[Podcast Host Zach]

They're so long. I'm Just trying to find like any little moments in there that are crazy. I mean this whole thing is crazy.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Failing New York Times. The war.

[Podcast Host Zach]

It's. I'm winning a war by a war. Yeah, he just up the first.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Is it the war in his mind?

[Podcast Host Rich]

Is that what he's.

[Podcast Host Tim]

He's not winning that. He's not winning that.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

He's, he's, he's fighting himself and both sides are losing, but they have no anti missile or anti. The blockade. There's a deal. They're losing 500 million a day. Like, like the anti American fake news is rooting for Iran to win. He's like that was three minutes ago or whatever. Like he's just gonna keep going. This is.

[Podcast Host Tim]

They, they have no anti aircraft yet.

[Podcast Host Rich]

They shut down a bunch of F14s or F15s.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

The jets that made him lose his in the other.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I mean thank God we got those guys back. But it's just so crazy. It's like I haven't heard a single piece of a deal floated that is better than the JP CoA or however you say.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

No, they gave up 98 of their uranium.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Right.

[Podcast Host Zach]

It's, it's ridiculous. It was like.

[Podcast Host Tim]

And the only uranium.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

They were tons too. Yeah, right. It was super low grade shitty uranium that you couldn't do anything with. Yeah. Unfucking real.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Right.

[Podcast Host Rich]

It was just for like, like a fission plant.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Right. Energy power.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah, yeah.

[Podcast Host Tim]

So like.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Yeah, it needs to be way more pure to use in a bomb and you have to have enough of it and missiles to carry it. None of which. They had any of those things in during Obama's.

[Podcast Host Tim]

No, because we've also. We also before that. Do you remember how apparently they never

[Podcast Host Rich]

confirmed this, but the US government actually

[Podcast Host Tim]

was able to hack into one of

[Podcast Host Rich]

the, one of the nuclear facilities.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Oh right.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Actually spun it.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

So they made it over. Right?

[Podcast Host Tim]

Or overheat.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Like we've been like this. They've never done anything. It's like. Because you don't know like there has been all this covert for years. Also when they talk about like oh, some backpackers got, got detained like on the border of Iran. I'm like, they weren't backpackers, guys. Come on, think a little.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Backpacks. But they were backpackers.

[Podcast Host Tim]

It's like, oh my God, come on. So, so do we. So tomorrow's or today, if you're listening.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Yeah, Tuesday.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Is there a deal or no deal?

[Podcast Host Zach]

No. What deal? There's just no way.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Yes, 100%. But not in a deal the way we think of it.

[Podcast Host Rich]

So what do you mean by that?

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I just very much do not think that fighting is going to continue. I think Trump desperately, I, I'm not sure it can't promise anything, but I, I think he desperately, desperately wants to pivot back to talking about no taxes on tips and like.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Oh, for sure.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Yeah, that worked out really well last week.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Illegal aliens. He, I don't think wants to keep this going. And I mean I expected him to react to the jets with like crazy attacks and, and instead he reacted the jets by freaking out that it was going to hurt him politically, which is kind of how he's always respond. Like he doesn't care about. Yeah, he doesn't care about the military.

[Podcast Host Rich]

I care about those guys.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

He kind of mocks them and, and makes fun of him whenever, whenever he gets a chance and he uses them very recklessly. But no, I don't, I don't think he wants to keep fighting in Iran. I think he want, he, he desperately wants to say, I won the war, we got a better deal, off with the details and, and call it a win.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I think you're right, but I don't

[Podcast Host Rich]

know if Iran will let him do that.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I think they have Exactly.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Well, right. You actually. Yes. I mean like you, you've got it on both sides, but Iran has him

[Podcast Host Rich]

right where they want him, which is

[Podcast Host Tim]

bogged down and like the gas prices are through the roof all because of

[Podcast Host Rich]

Donald Trump, to be clear. Yeah, that is the reason.

[Podcast Host Tim]

This war is the reason. And they don't care if their citizens died. They murdered their citizens all the time. So as long as their leadership is safe and the guard is safe, they

[Podcast Host Rich]

don't give a shit.

[Podcast Host Tim]

So they're like, oh, we could really

[Podcast Host Rich]

these guys over by like not agreeing to a deal.

[Podcast Host Tim]

What I think is gonna, I think

[Podcast Host Rich]

we're gonna get another taco. I think we're getting another two weeks.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Yeah, we need two more weeks. It's almost there.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Make a J.D. vance go back and forth like a billion times to Pakistan.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

It's like he's got to be so jet lagged. He's just like, every time he turns on the headlines, it's like, oh, J.D. vance failed at something and then he gets on an airplane. Everything he lands and he fails again.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Everything he touches falls apart. I don't ever want to, I don't ever want to be in a room with him because I feel like if

[Podcast Host Rich]

I'm in a room with him, I'm

[Podcast Host Tim]

going to die the next day. Like Pope Francis, literally.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Rich]

No, everything he touches falls Apart, that's going to be wonderful when he runs for president. They are just going to shred him. So, like, what did you do besides

[Podcast Host Tim]

kill the Pope and not get an

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Iran deal and just fail at everything and then get trampled because everyone knew he was anti war and isolationist. And then they did it anyway because Trump likes Rubio and Hegseth apparently now more than, more than Vance. And so then they're like, here, go. Go accomplish this impossible task of ending the mistakes that of solving for the mistakes that we made. And he's like, boss, I couldn't, I couldn't do it. Like, why are you such a failure? I think the middle child.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I wouldn't underestimate Vance. Vance has an, has an ability to weasel out of shit. Like, I, I think he would not be like, because Harris, when she was put in the really tough position she was put. She wouldn't criticize Biden on anything. So like, everybody just said like, Harris is Biden and that really her and that would fuck Vance. And he knows that. So I think he's going to come out and be like, yeah, I was against the war. They didn't listen to me. Like, and I think he'll just own it. Like, I don't think he would do that.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Don't you think Trump will throw, like,

[Podcast Host Rich]

because he's taking spotlight.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Don't you think that Trump will just

[Podcast Host Rich]

lob truth social bombs at him for that?

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah, but that's almost a benefit to him at that point. I think if you, if you fast forward two and a half years and it just continues to get worse. The more divorced he can get from this administration, the better. I think advance knows that. You know, he hated Trump and then he became just vp.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I agree with the fucking weasel.

[Podcast Host Rich]

He's a shameless piece of shit.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Exactly. He'll do whatever it takes.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I totally agree with the logic of it. No, I just gotta. We can wrap that up. But I agree with the logic of it, but no VP in history has ever been able to successfully run as the change candidate after their. It's a little hard after their ticket. Please.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Like, honestly, I think the biggest thing is like, if Democrats get their shit together, then he can't. But if Democrats like present the version we have today, then I think he could win.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

If we can't run as the change candidate after this, we deserve, like, I'm gonna join the WIG party or whatever. I'm going back.

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[Podcast Host Tim]

a great transition to our next topic

[Podcast Host Rich]

and then Rich, you had to keep going.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I was going to say that's what I do. That's what I do.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Speaking of pieces of shit.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Oh, Cash Patel is in the news today pursuing The Atlantic for $250 million for the article that they released, which we've all skimmed.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Would awfully read. So apologies for that, but everybody should

[Podcast Host Tim]

go read it because it basically talks about him getting blasted or plastered, hammered, shit faced, whatever you want to call

[Podcast Host Rich]

it in the office.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yep.

[Podcast Host Rich]

And basically being a complete alcoholic, which was something that was rumored to be out there before.

[Podcast Host Tim]

And so Cash Patel is like, I am going to file a defamation lawsuit

[Podcast Host Rich]

against you even though I can't tell

[Podcast Host Tim]

you what my damages are.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Right.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Because I still have my job.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Quarter billion.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I need a quarter billion dollars for

[Podcast Host Rich]

you to defame me for something that.

[Podcast Host Tim]

We have video of him chugging beers in the men's locker room at the. After the Americans won the gold.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I mean, let's be clear though. Spraying down hockey boys with PBR does not make you an alcoholic.

[Podcast Host Rich]

True.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Right. No, I mean, I mean, I was

[Podcast Host Tim]

thinking more of the chugging the beers that he did.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Also circumstances.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Doesn't mean you're an alcoholic either.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

But like, but like I, I enjoy beer, but I, if I were at his level, I, I don't think I would be behaving with alcohol the way that he did on camera.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Also, why is the FBI director in

[Podcast Host Tim]

the locker room Right. Overseas.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yes.

[Podcast Host Tim]

While shit's breaking all over the place in the United States.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I think they broke up a Assassination plot. Another assassination. Assassination plot. That weekend. Right. Like there was. I think somebody got arrested or something. Meanwhile, like, like the same day, the same like five hour window that Cash Patel was chugging beer and.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Why would the FBI director ever need

[Podcast Host Rich]

to go to Italy?

[Podcast Host Tim]

And apparently he took the FBI private jet.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Yep.

[Podcast Host Tim]

So, you know, that's not cheap to fly.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Rich]

You know, and he had.

[Podcast Host Tim]

There's actually video footage of him before

[Podcast Host Rich]

he was FBI Director being like, we need to audit the FBI. The FBI directors flying all over the place.

[Podcast Host Tim]

He goes to Italy, chugs beer and sprays on the, like, hockey players. And everyone's like, why the is this guy here?

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yep. That's nuts. I don't understand any of it. But the 250 is so funny to me, too. It's like, how in what universe are you gonna earn that kind of. If you. If this wasn't there, you know, that's just like, it's just a media play. You got that from Trump. Like, I'll just sue for a huge number.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Forget it. Doesn't matter.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Well, it's intimidating. It's intimidation.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Right?

[Podcast Host Zach]

They just.

[Podcast Host Rich]

There.

[Podcast Host Tim]

It's an intimidation tactic.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Never works.

[Podcast Host Tim]

But, like, none of us are lawyers,

[Podcast Host Rich]

but we do know that in order to sue someone for defamation, you have to be able to prove damages.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

And, and as a public figure, it. It's a much higher standard. Right. This is in the New York Times article, is that as a public figure, he, Mr. Patel, must meet a higher standard than an ordinary citizen to prove his case. He must show there were not only falsehoods in the article, but actual malice. A legal standard that means the defendants published defamatory material either while knowing it was false or with reckless disregard as to its truth. I think being able to say, like, hey, there are a lot of allegations, and we have you on video chugging beers and spraying alcohol on people. I wouldn't say that. Like, that's reckless disregard as to its truth. To think that, like, maybe there are some dots to connect there. But again, I'm not for sure. I'm not making the claim because I don't want the people lawsuit.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Like, that's the. They'll depose all the people that gave quotes. Like, in the end, those people are going to end up in depositions and they're gonna have to tell the truth or they go to prison. So, you know.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Well. But it also doesn't help him that

[Podcast Host Rich]

all of the regular FBI agents hate his guts.

[Podcast Host Tim]

They hate him. They all hate him. So, like, they're all.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Yeah, I know, right?

[Podcast Host Tim]

Like, I can't imagine why they would do that or why they would be so mad at a guy that literally

[Podcast Host Rich]

is a troll, becomes the FBI director.

[Podcast Host Tim]

But, like, I'll tell you, as someone who worked in the federal government, if

[Podcast Host Rich]

you do something that the federal employees do not like, they will leak the. Out of it. They will. Oh, yeah, they.

[Podcast Host Tim]

They take that very seriously.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

That was their whole.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Sure.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

That was their whole. That was their Whole assertion was like the. It was this. The deep state was this. Or the administrative state they called it was this like uncontrolled behemoth of just terrorist. You know, what do they call them? They, you know, secret lefties that were trying to support the Trump administration. Like, they're all committing treason by. It's like, dude, we just live in America. It's messy as everybody to say whatever they want.

[Podcast Host Rich]

There are conservatives that work in the federal government. I remember I went into one office one day and I looked up and they had Fox News on.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I'm sorry, but like, no liberals putting that on. Like, no.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

And not even regular people. Like, regular people aren't putting on Fox News. Like, you seek that out.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I work when you're looking for it got people who are deeply evangelical, which

[Podcast Host Rich]

pretty much means they're not liberal.

[Podcast Host Tim]

And you know, like, they. It exists. So this like hilarious.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Like everybody in the government is just a lib. Is just nonsense.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

So stupid.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Well, let's stop talking about that.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Can I, Can I. Oh, you want to keep going? No.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Are you transitioning?

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Speaking of stupid amounts of money, the Trump administration has now very quietly and very formally begun accepting requests for refunds of $166 billion in tariff revenue, which is not 2 trillion or 18 trillion or 1 trillion or however much they. They claimed. So now it's like really convenient that they didn't actually bring in $18 trillion due to tariffs.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Do.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Do average everyday Americans who lost, I think the average like $1700.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Can we all apply for that or

[Podcast Host Tim]

is that like a. I assume they're

[Podcast Host Rich]

just doing it for businesses because they don't give a shit about people.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

But, like, it would have to be the. The people who paid. Yeah, the.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Who paid. The dude, we all kind of paid, you know.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Well, that's what I mean.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

But it would be on the business to then like, are they gonna. No, they are 100 take that. $166 billion is going back to balance sheets, not to the customers who. Who covered the balance.

[Podcast Host Rich]

So the businesses actually end up ahead of the game.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Probably.

[Podcast Host Tim]

They just pass. They pass most of that through and

[Podcast Host Rich]

now they're going to get.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

We're eating some of it.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

So. So I. I know some businesses.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Case by case, I'm sure. Like Costco, like Costco is one of the leading companies who sued.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Right.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Their prices went up, I think a little bit. I mean they definitely went up like every inflation. But sussing out like what was from tariffs and what is just inflation is difficult. And because I Shop at Costco all the time. I like that company.

[Podcast Host Zach]

It's good.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I'm sure that they ate more of it. Whereas like other companies, I'm sure jumped right on and they're like, well, triple the prices. Like let's ride the out.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Well just push it as a stimulus plan. It was a stimulus plan the whole time.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Small business stimulus.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Playing chess, not checkers, guys.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Greatest tax credit small business community has ever seen.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Costco, Nev. Didn't. They didn't raise the prices of their hot dogs.

[Podcast Host Rich]

So we know that they've been eating.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Very interesting.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Right?

[Podcast Host Rich]

I think the, the CEO is like, as long as I'm here, there'll be a dollar fifty. Like that's.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I wonder if they come from overseas. Like are those terrify, terrifiable hot dogs? Oh, terrified.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Those American made hot dogs, I, I

[Podcast Host Lucas]

think they're already a loss leader for Costco. Like there's money on every hot dog they sell but then they, they make up for it with the 700 receipts. So it works. So it works out.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Like while I'm here for the on 50, I'm gonna spend 700 on their other stuff.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Right?

[Podcast Host Tim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Well did.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Is there a website to promote to

[Podcast Host Lucas]

go do that or let me see.

[Podcast Host Rich]

So give me my money.gov.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

yeah. Right. I don't.

[Podcast Host Rich]

So we can all go there and say it's a. You do not qualify.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Right? Exactly. Imagine being a business going in there. Your expectations have to be zero that you're going to actually see any money for that. There's no way.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

What are the odds it's going to be better than Obamacare roll out 0.

[Podcast Host Rich]

0.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

You don't think that the people.

[Podcast Host Rich]

It's just a Google form

[Podcast Host Lucas]

crashes day one because they.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Didn't cap. They capped it at like 20 submissions. No, I'm trying to find. It doesn't like there's so many links in here. It just says yeah. I don't know if I can find it. I'll see.

[Podcast Host Rich]

But all right, well, you know you can find it. Go try to get your money.

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[Podcast Host Tim]

So I want to transition to a better story that I am going to say that we are 100% responsible for this happening. We did it at Find out podcast. New polling is out.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Oh yeah.

[Podcast Host Tim]

After Eric's in the. In the California gubernatorial race after Eric Swalwell's resignation for being a sex pest. Do you want to know who's in second place now, guys?

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Who?

[Podcast Host Tim]

Javier Becerra.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Let's go.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Right after he came on the Findout podcast on Thursday, this polling comes out and boom, he goes from like 4 or 5% to 15. He is now tied with Tom Steyer. Guys, power.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Find out we did.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Was just us. It was nothing else.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Nothing.

[Podcast Host Tim]

When he was talking about loving Corona, I think he said it very much better. Corona. He did say his, his positive numbers went skyrocket through the roof, obviously.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Maybe it has something to do with the fact that he's the most experienced

[Podcast Host Tim]

person in the race and one of

[Podcast Host Rich]

the most progressive and has sued Trump

[Podcast Host Tim]

more times than anybody, I think. Or at one point he had 120 losses.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I think.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Yeah, we, we did it. It must, we must. Like I just watched.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Want to pat ourselves on the back?

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah. No, I think it's good.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I was a little, I was a little concerned when he said a Corona with a lemon. I was like, is this his John Kerry Philly cheesesteak with Swiss cheese moment? And then I, because I only drink Corona in all Mexican lagers with a lime, of course. In my brain, of course. But if you Google, it's like, I don't know, 25% of people drink Corona with a lemon. Which it's still the real way to do it, probably, right? I know, right? It's probably super whitewashed it with limes. You know, something that we didn't really cover, I think because of our limited time with, with, with Javier, not Xavier, but Javier. That's correct. He ref. You know, he was the HHS secretary for the entire pandemic recovery.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Like there was one. There was one HHS secretary under Joe Biden. And that was Javier Becerra also mentioned that he ran this massive department and had a balanced budget the whole time, and which, like any department, any part of the federal government, balancing the budget. Thank you. That's remarkable. Congratulations. But then I saw a clip from RFK Junior's hearing early on, and he was talking about how they had to make all of these cuts because they were running up against a $50 million. I think it was a $54 million deficit at HHS. Like, wait, are you. I need to connect these. There's another Rich video. But he was handed a balanced budget for HHS, and somehow, I think, within like, six months, turned it into a $50 million deficit. And then that. Then they had to lay off a bunch of. That was the rationale anyway, for, you know, getting rid of cancer research and vaccine funding and, like, all of the shit, you know. Oh, I think it was measles. I think it was. The measles vaccine development rollout was.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Well, we don't need that.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

You just can't do everything because, you know, budget cuts.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah. Just look at this.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Your government.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Look at the chart of measles, and it's like, straight up.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Oh, it's crazy.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Somebody could have seen this coming of.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Only if only.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I mean, it turns out that hiring a narcissistic, former heroin addict, habitual liar, habitual womanizer with a law degree and

[Podcast Host Rich]

no health experience whatsoever, except for making

[Podcast Host Tim]

up lies about vaccines, was maybe not the right choice to be in charge of the biggest health agencies in the federal government.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I. You know what's really fucked up is I saw. I saw this AI video of RFK Jr that I couldn't ID was AI right away because it was so, like, I believed it. It was him saying, I'm gonna wage a war on fat children.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Oh, I've seen this.

[Podcast Host Zach]

You know, it's like, there's a. Wait a minute. He couldn't have said this. There's no way.

[Podcast Host Tim]

No, it's fat gay kids.

[Podcast Host Rich]

He said fat gay kids.

[Podcast Host Zach]

That's what it was. Fat gay kids. And I'm sitting there going, maybe he said this. Like, that's. I could see him saying this. It's insane.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I mean, didn't. What was the story that he, like, cut off a raccoon's genitalia in the 90s or something?

[Podcast Host Rich]

There's, like, something.

[Podcast Host Tim]

What the. Is that? Like, what are you doing? He killed a bear cub and dumped it in the. In the Central Park. And he works out in jeans.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Like, this guy is like, it's Just so weird.

[Podcast Host Tim]

It's like, also, he. My, like, like, he grew up in the most, like, liberal family ever. Like, highly educated. Like, dude, don't, man.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Like, it was the brain.

[Podcast Host Zach]

It's nuts.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

The brain was a Republican.

[Podcast Host Tim]

It was new.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Gingrich reincarnated. No, Newt Gingrich is still around, right? Is Ronald Reagan right now.

[Podcast Host Rich]

He's still kicking. He's still kicking.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

It was some old shitty guy reincarnated.

[Podcast Host Tim]

The brain thing is funny to me, just the hypocrisy, because he claimed in the 2000s maybe that he couldn't pay alimony because he had such cognitive decline from the worm eating his brain. And then 15 years later, he's like, I could be president.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Right, Exactly. And then a bunch of Americans go, yeah, it sounds good to put him in charge of a health.

[Podcast Host Tim]

By the way, your brain doesn't grow back.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Tim]

So, like, if the brain. If the worm ate, which also people

[Podcast Host Rich]

are like, there is. That's not a.

[Podcast Host Zach]

That's not a thing.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Zach]

It's not a real thing.

[Podcast Host Rich]

So he was clearly lying, because that's all he does. And apparently this is gossip, but I'll say it anyways, because it was reported he and Cheryl Hines, his wife, I guess they stayed together because they were. Because of all the cheating stuff, because he thought he was going to lose the. The appointment to hhs.

[Podcast Host Zach]

So they're like, just, like, to stay together.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Yep.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I'm just. I'm just being a caddy at this point.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I mean, look, it's. It's fair. But, you know, the funny thing is, like, all these weird outsiders that have, like, said the system is broken and we're going to come in there and fix it. Like, it's so funny watching the burden to do it beyond them, and then they all just fucking fall flat on their face and realize, oh, maybe the system was fine.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Well, that's. They. Everybody has always said that Republicans are better, are very good at being an opposition party and a terrible governing party.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yes, that's consistently true. There's no question about it. And like, like, it's just funny to me because, like, Trump and RFK were the ones who made the biggest. Like, like, I'm gonna find the cure for autism. And, like, I'm gonna change, inflate, like, all these things you can't possibly do. And then it's like, okay, we'll do it. It's like, well, you know, I don't. I'll figure it out. Like, no, you won't, because it's impossible to do it on like, it's. It's insane. The things that they promise are just so broken.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Blaming. Blaming mothers for autism because they took

[Podcast Host Tim]

Tylenol, which, by the way, have we made it past nine months of that announcement because the autism rates should be plummeting.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Right. Because we told the American people that

[Podcast Host Tim]

Tylenol, not acetaminophen, by the way, Tylenol.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Because he couldn't say it. Right, Right.

[Podcast Host Tim]

What the.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Is not gonna work here anymore.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Yeah, whatever.

[Podcast Host Rich]

It doesn't matter.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Tylenol. I'll just say it.

[Podcast Host Zach]

That's why you up ibogaine, which is also not hard to read. It reads just like you read it,

[Podcast Host Lucas]

you know, you just have to stop.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Do you think that he. They maybe gave him some of that.

[Podcast Host Rich]

That before the announcement?

[Podcast Host Zach]

Oh, my God, dude, ibogaine's crazy. I don't know if anybody knows about it, but, like, it's actually the only thing I like about that is actually a good idea that they did this. But, like, the fact that he doesn't know what he's doing is absurd. But, like, ibogaine is insane. The.

[Podcast Host Tim]

That happens to you when you take psychedelic, right?

[Podcast Host Zach]

Oh, my God. But it's like violently psychedelic. Like, it's not like one of those, like, Aaron Rodgers spirit trips where you're like taking ayahuasca fucking guy. No, this is like days of violent bolt, like, crazy brain rattling shit that. But, like, the results are amazing. Like, people like heroin addicts are like, like, often very much, like, cured for life. Depression, anxiety, like, all these. But it's like, extremely ill advised unless you have a serious, serious problem.

[Podcast Host Rich]

I mean, I am all for this stuff. I just.

[Podcast Host Tim]

It's. It's the thing that sucks though, right?

[Podcast Host Rich]

It's like we've got a lunatic as

[Podcast Host Tim]

a president and another lunatic as the head of hhs.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Tim]

So, like, when they tell you stuff

[Podcast Host Rich]

is good, it's like, why is it.

[Podcast Host Zach]

It's very dangerous because, like, if you have like, just like standard run of the mill, like, I should go to a psychiatrist kind of problems, don't go looking for ibogaine. Like, it's not your solution. Like, it's for, like, high level trauma, but because of them, that I guarantee you'll get people who are not right for it, who will be, like, dying for it. It's like, you can't have it. It's not for you, you know? Yeah, it's. It's absurd.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Yeah, well, talk to your doctor about ibogaine.

[Podcast Host Zach]

If you want to have four straight days of terrifying visions and come out of it with no benefit.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Do you want to feel like your face is melting off of your skull?

[Podcast Host Zach]

You know what? You should watch Homeland. There's a, they, there's a part of Homeland where they give ibogaine to a guy and like just. It's a good illustration of what happens when you do that.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Okay. Okay. Well, I'm probably not going to take any, but, you know, I hope it works for people.

[Podcast Host Zach]

It's crazy.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Well, guys, I don't, I think. Do we have anything else?

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Well, I was going to add more. I was looking at more RFK budget stuff in the background to make sure that I fact check myself. I don't want to spread misinformation. So, yeah, it was like, it was just like last week he was being screamed at by members of Congress, rightfully so. And he said he was not happy about President Trump's steep cuts to social welfare programs, but suggested the country couldn't afford them. Nobody wants to make the cuts. President Trump doesn't. But we have a 39 trillion dollar deficit, which is. That's it. We have a 39 trillion in debt. We have a, like a, like a 3 trillion or something. It's. The deficit's not good under Trump. Right, right, right. So it's not. Started looking up like, okay, well what has he specifically done? They have requested a 25% budget cut for HHS. So that's under, that's under RFK JES. From prior, from prior spending levels. Along with. That includes a 40% decrease in National Institute of Health funding and a 25% cut of the HHS workforce over, over the course of Kennedy's tenure. So he's just like destroying everything and still running at a deficit while also making sure that more people die. So it's really like the trifecta.

[Podcast Host Zach]

It's so up. Like the cuts are to like really critical things. Like the way that I look at it is like if you like modern medicine advancing this is what funds a huge percentage of it. And it's just disappearing. Like that's, that's the hardest part. People don't understand. Like, I think a lot of people think like, like all these pharmaceutical companies are just like bankrolling this. Like, no, it's tremendously bankrolled by the US Government. And now it's like, well, you know, good, good, good luck. Like improving when, you know, pharma companies aren't going to foot the bill for that.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Did you also, like, I'm just reading about this now. Apparently all of these Democrats and because most of them Are like old as were. Like rehashing, like, how amazing JFK was and his dad, RFK and how he is. None of those things. Like, they just kept barraging him with like, you were a disgrace to your

[Podcast Host Tim]

name and all this stuff. They're just like, jfk was great. RFK was great. You suck.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Like, it was just like that over

[Podcast Host Zach]

and over again happened to you.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Like, what?

[Podcast Host Rich]

I mean, heroin is what happened to him.

[Podcast Host Tim]

And narcissism and money.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I mean, a lot of this. Like, I think people lose sight of the fact that like, like I, I did a lot of looking into this during the election of like, his children's health defense. Like, that's the main thing that has made him so much money from being anti vaxxer. Like, prior to that, he was just a regular, like, attorney who had some weird things that he believed. But then once he built the Children's health Defense fund and like, ended up making it into this giant anti vax machine, he made so much money.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Oh, yeah.

[Podcast Host Zach]

It became extremely valuable to be an outspoken anti vax guy and to get in that position.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Here is so much of his money. Here is.

[Podcast Host Rich]

This is from the Independent, which is a UK publication.

[Podcast Host Tim]

The whole thing had a feeling of sort of an intervention of their wayward Irish Catholic cousin.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Like, they just were on him over

[Podcast Host Tim]

and over because they're like, we're not actually going to get anywhere here because

[Podcast Host Rich]

this guy's narcissist and doesn't care. So we're just gonna make his life miserable.

[Podcast Host Tim]

And I am here for it.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Me too. He got zero people in his family to support him. So that's got to tell you something.

[Podcast Host Tim]

It's like Democrats probably hope that they could invoke the late Senator Lloyd Benson.

[Podcast Host Rich]

A lot of people won't remember this, but I do.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Who famously told Dan quayle during their 1988 vice presidential debate where the neophyte

[Podcast Host Rich]

quail compared himself to the future John Kennedy.

[Podcast Host Tim]

And he said, I served with Jack Kennedy.

[Podcast Host Rich]

I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Somebody should have done that. Somebody.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Famous line. Yeah. Somebody should have rehashed it.

[Podcast Host Tim]

You know, would have been great if

[Podcast Host Rich]

one of the Kennedy cousins were still in Congress and they just like, brought it in and just like, had a family. Like, you were disgrace. Hate you.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Like blaming mothers for autism.

[Podcast Host Rich]

You piece of.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Like, why don't you go back and just like cut off the genitals of more roadkill or something instead of doing this?

[Podcast Host Zach]

It just doesn't work any of that. Stuff.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I mean, as long as the animal's already dead, like there's really no harm done.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Yeah, but what if you, what if

[Podcast Host Rich]

you hit it with your car first?

[Podcast Host Tim]

Does that count? Sadly, we have to ask these questions because like, you know, this is the

[Podcast Host Zach]

world we live in.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

This is where we're at. Right? Yeah. Hey, there's breaking news.

[Podcast Host Tim]

What is it?

[Podcast Host Lucas]

It's not bad though. Betty Yee dropped out of the race for governor in California, so.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Oh.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Starting to consolidate, starting to happen. That was just as of today. Yeah. It looks like the polls that have been taken like just in the. Because there's not a lot of like aggressive polling on this, but the polls that have been taken since. Well, there's only one. Yeah. Becerra, Porter and Steyer are all jumping up and Steyer is in first and he's above Bianco. What we can't have is Hilton and Bianco being 1 and 2 because then it'll be two Republicans going head to head.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Well, if she, if she dropped out, then there's going to be huge pressure

[Podcast Host Rich]

on Villagarosa, who was a mayor of Los Angeles who's been in like the

[Podcast Host Tim]

2 or 3 to percent that Mad Matt Malay guy and there's a Tom. Something like there's going to be massive

[Podcast Host Rich]

pressure on those guys to drop out because we can't have seven candidates.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Like they have to. I mean, it's June 2nd is the primary.

[Podcast Host Rich]

So look, it's.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I was just gonna ask that.

[Blinds.com Announcer]

It's.

[Podcast Host Tim]

It's a month and a half away.

[Podcast Host Rich]

So like some of these guys ego is probably gonna make them hold on,

[Podcast Host Tim]

but like they'll, they're. Because if those guys stay in and they finish single digits, they will never

[Podcast Host Rich]

be elected to anything ever again because people will be like, you cost this.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yeah, you, us, 100. It's the buy. It's the Biden in 2020 primary. You know, we just gotta get behind this guy.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Yeah.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Like we can't have Bernie win. Sorry. We're just gonna all drop out. So everybody goes to Biden.

[Podcast Host Rich]

That's, that's this still like a stunning like two days. It was like, oh my God.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Boom.

[Podcast Host Rich]

It was like, whoa.

[Podcast Host Zach]

A lot of our listeners won't like me saying this, but it was my favorite two days of the whole election cycle because I was a big Biden supporter and I was like, thank God it's not gon Bernie Sanders because I thought he would get throttled, which I think he actually would have.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

So Trump said it's not tac toe Tuesday. Trump just clarified that I think the two weeks started on. You know, it was. It was so late on Tuesday night when he issued the deadline that they. It's basically Wednesday, so Wednesday. So the ceasefire with Iran ends Wednesday evening. Washington time. And he says highly, highly unlikely he would extend if a deal is not reached.

[Podcast Host Tim]

That is an extension.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Yes. So 24 hour extension.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Wait, when. When do you round up days like, this isn't a decimal. What are we doing here? Like, you know, it's like two hours from midnight. So that's basically Wednesday. So that's basically Wednesday night.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

This is Wednesday Pakistan time.

[Podcast Host Tim]

You know, so embarrassed. I can't believe this guy is running the country is.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Oh, well, I hope we can keep laughing at this in our Thursday episode, which would mean that like, like nuclear Armageddon has no. For two more days.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I think. I think what this guarantees is that

[Podcast Host Rich]

the show will still be relevant when people listen to it.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

That's good. It's true. That's true.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Oh, my God.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Well, I think that's a good note to end on. So everybody had enough of the roadkill genitalia, which is my fault for bringing it up twice.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Roadkill genitalia.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

That's a. That's a new T shirt.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Would we get. Would we get shadow bit? Would we get, like, shadow banned if

[Podcast Host Rich]

we called it roadkill genitalia?

[Podcast Host Zach]

I don't know. We might get a bump. Who the hell knows?

[Podcast Host Rich]

Well, we've. We've got one of our guys listening who helps us with the titling, so we'll have to check in with him. He's probably, like, hiding it, weeping under his desk. Like, why am I working with these?

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I think he ran away from his computer like, half an hour ago. He's like, he's in here listening, but

[Podcast Host Rich]

we don't see him. So he's maybe he's like. Hopefully it's. He also had it in headphones instead of loud because if there's any other people to hear this, like, what the.

[Podcast Host Tim]

What is your job? Anyways? Thank you for making it this far with us, guys. So. Yes. So let's see. What are we supposed to promote? All right, you got to make sure you're subscribing to American Power, which you talked about earlier. Nola Haynes is not a Spy and Get Angry are. Our three shows are currently out. We got a couple more coming. Also, make sure. I think I'm wearing. I am wearing one of our shirts, so we have to. You have to buy merch, guys. At the findout podcast.com Yep, that's right.

[Podcast Host Rich]

I'm getting confused between final podcast media

[Podcast Host Tim]

know and it's substack. You definitely need to subscribe. But actually what I really, really want you to do is subscribe to our YouTube channel. Because guess what, guys, we're at 86, 000 subscribers.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Fine.

[Podcast Host Tim]

So once we hit a a hundred thousand subscribers, we start getting tracked by

[Podcast Host Rich]

some of these like podcast chart things, which helps get the word out about the show.

[Podcast Host Tim]

So of all that, I want you to subscribe to our YouTube channel, which is just at findout Media, because that is a way that we get paid and you know, obviously like more people who like and share that stuff. It gets further and further.

[Podcast Host Rich]

We won't be stopping at a hundred thousand. The next stop is a million. So like, we got to keep going. So if you could do that. Love you forever.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

We'll get a, we'll get a plaque. Yeah, you get the silver thing, right? The silver plaque from, from for a

[Podcast Host Tim]

hundred thousand and a million.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Right?

[Podcast Host Tim]

Aren't there too?

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Yeah, yeah, I think so. I just, I got my hundred thousand ones so long ago. I like forgot.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Oh, shut up.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

The criteria. But God, no, I mean, it was like a long time. Know where it is?

[Podcast Host Tim]

You have it with you?

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I, I, I have it somewhere. I know. Maybe for our Thursday episode, I'll find it.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Well, I think, I think I'll get ours.

[Podcast Host Rich]

I think, I think, yeah. Otherwise, I don't know where it goes.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I don't know.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

You're going to put it on the wall?

[Podcast Host Zach]

I got to hang it.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Recording room. Yeah, exactly.

[Podcast Host Rich]

I'm going to do like Flava Flav style. And I'm just gonna wear it as a chain.

[Podcast Host Tim]

It's my version of the clock.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I would pay for that. That'd be great.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Yeah, it's big. It's like a big metal thing. It's not like, oh, is it?

[Podcast Host Rich]

Yeah, there's some like chintzy, like they just have them lying around. They' other idiot got 100,000.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I think it's like a real deal thing.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

It's like, I don't know, it's probably 12 by 14 or 11 by 14.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Probably.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Yeah. And it's like glass and metal. It's not, it's not lightweight either.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Oh, can't take that Serious.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Make sure that you might want to get in there and look at like, what's going to be engraved on it. Because mine, I hadn't branded my channel and so it says like, congratulations, 100,000 subscribers. User underscore xp1. And it's like 26 characters of gibberish. It looks like a wi fi password.

[Podcast Host Tim]

What a. What a special keepsake.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

It's engraved.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Maybe you should just change your name to that.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Hey.

[Podcast Host Rich]

ID x29.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Wait, what's your next thing? What is a hundred thousand? Then what's the next one where they

[Podcast Host Lucas]

said 500 or a million? I'm not sure.

[Podcast Host Rich]

I think it's once you get an extra digit after.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I don't know.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Did you get one at 10 million?

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I missed my one. My one shot.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Yeah, you should do that because that's like. That's like a humble brag, but also, like, funny.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Please help me.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Look how popular I am.

[Podcast Host Zach]

That is good. I like that a lot. I mean, look, if it's 500, you could. I mean, what are you at now? Like 300 something?

[Podcast Host Lucas]

76.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Oh, wait, wait. We're not here to promote Rich. We're not here to promote Rich. We're here to promote only find out.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Out.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Oh, I don't need promotion. Yeah, no, no, I know you don't.

[Podcast Host Tim]

No, I know.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I don't need you guys. I'm doing fine.

[Podcast Host Tim]

We are all aware.

[Podcast Host Rich]

We are all painfully aware. Also, I have 5,500 subscribers. So on my YouTube channel, you have me be.

[Podcast Host Zach]

I think I have 4,700.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Yeah, but.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Yeah, but I actually try.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Oh, I literally haven't posted to YouTube.

[Podcast Host Rich]

But you could. You could follow me at Tim Pullerton. Don't. Okay, Just.

[Podcast Host Zach]

You know, I did it when Tik Tok was. I was like, ever. You go over there and follow me. And I got like, 5,000 people. And then that, like,

[Podcast Host Lucas]

the one day.

[Podcast Host Rich]

The one day.

[Podcast Host Tim]

The one day. And then it never came.

[Podcast Host Rich]

But really never really came back after that.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Oh, also, next week, we'll talk more about this. I think we're getting ready to launch the Find out social app as well. We are almost there. Which will be an algorithm free billionaire, free social platform where we could talk about the shows. We can also talk about political issues, cultural issues, all these things. It will be free for everybody to use. You can post links in there and not get banned. As long as you are kind and respectful, you can post whatever you want.

[Podcast Host Rich]

No hate speech, no violence. You'll be gone immediately.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

No motherless links.

[Podcast Host Tim]

What is that?

[Podcast Host Lucas]

The.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Is that.

[Podcast Host Tim]

What is a motherless link?

[Podcast Host Lucas]

We can't go down this path. There's no time. Get on threads and look up motherless. It's the 62 million men thing. That's that website site. Don't post those links on our God,

[Podcast Host Tim]

no, I don't want to talk about those. Why would you even bring that up?

[Podcast Host Rich]

Everybody go unsubscribe to Rich.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

You said post links and you won't get banned. Don't post any links if you're kind

[Podcast Host Tim]

and respectful and not saying, hey, don't go to. Let's not promote. Don't.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

I've never been there, and I will never go there.

[Podcast Host Rich]

I am never.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I am not interested in that.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Christ.

[Podcast Host Rich]

The discourse on that also was insane last week where people like, it wasn't really 62 million.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I'm like, it exists.

[Podcast Host Rich]

You're gonna.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Not all men. This one dude, run away.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I'm like, man, you will really just

[Podcast Host Rich]

defend anything if it's against them.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Jesus.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Well, let's be reasonable here. Yeah, it's not the cartoon of it.

[Podcast Host Zach]

The, like, the person being eaten by fire ants. Did you see that on Instagram? The explanations. Oh, it's so good. Good. It was like somebody being eaten by a bunch of fire ants. And the guy was sitting there going, like. He said, I'm being eaten by 62 million fires. Like, actually, you're being bitten 62 million times by a group of less than 62 million fire ants. Like, oh, it's so good. It was so good.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Okay, that is good. That is good.

[Podcast Host Zach]

That was really good.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

We should find that and share that video on our channel, because that's like the summary of the whole. The whole debate that took place.

[Podcast Host Zach]

It had like a hundred thousand likes on it when I saw it. I'm sure it's. You'll find.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I mean, we can.

[Podcast Host Rich]

No one is listening at this point, I think.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

And they're all, this is when I break down. That's when it gets. When it gets good. I. I like.

[Podcast Host Rich]

I know, but you gotta make it.

[Podcast Host Tim]

We're at the 51 minute mark, so

[Podcast Host Rich]

people are like, oh, my God, I've got to, like, go into work.

[Podcast Host Tim]

I've been sitting here waiting for these idiots.

[Podcast Host Rich]

They've been saying they're gonna finish for

[Podcast Host Tim]

15 minutes, and now they're talking about fire ants eating men. And, like, all.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

But it's a defensible reason why the man is being eaten is the thing. So that's actually a woman being eaten,

[Podcast Host Zach]

which makes it even better because it's

[Podcast Host Lucas]

a woman, you know, going, oh, God, he's mansplaining.

[Podcast Host Zach]

He's mansplaining that. It's. Yeah, it's. It's. It's literally actually

[Podcast Host Lucas]

just listen on 2x, like, put this at the very beginning. Clip this. Listen to the rest of this episode at 2x3x whatever need to make us

[Podcast Host Rich]

sound like Alvin and the Chipmunks to get through this.

[Podcast Host Tim]

But anyways thank you everybody whoever is left sticking around. Actually let us know at the end

[Podcast Host Rich]

if you actually in the comments if you actually made it this far because I'm curious.

[Podcast Host Lucas]

Post fire ants in the comments.

[Podcast Host Tim]

Just say yeah just say fire ants. No one else will get it and

[Podcast Host Rich]

it will make us all happy when the one of you writes in and says it.

[Podcast Host Tim]

So thank you everybody for listening. I apologize.

[Podcast Host Rich]

Oh yeah, definitely are number one fan

[Podcast Host Tim]

of course and he's gonna be so happy that he got a shout out on the show.

[Podcast Host Zach]

Oh yeah.

[Podcast Host Rich]

So everybody or or Cliffrus thank you for sticking around. Just nobody else has left our par. None of our families are listening at this point.

[Podcast Host Zach]

They're like no these are all given up.

[Podcast Host Rich]

These idiots. I'm gonna have to keep listening to another show later.

[Podcast Host Tim]

So anyways have a great hopefully non genocidal day or two and we will

[Podcast Host Rich]

be back on Thursday. Bye everybody.