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Foreign.

Podcast Host Tim (1:35)

Hey everybody, welcome back to the Find out podcast. You've got Tim, Zach and Rich today. Lucas off today. So we have so many things to talk about.

Podcast Host Rich (1:44)

Actually 5 minutes ago we were like, wait, what are we talking about?

Podcast Host Tim (1:46)

But there's actually a lot of stuff.

Podcast Host Rich (1:48)

Always never not.

Podcast Host Tim (1:50)

I know.

Podcast Host Rich (1:51)

It's like the one thing that Trump does provide is plenty of things to talk about. It's like the only, only net benefit, which isn't really a benefit.

Summary

The Find Out Podcast

Episode Title: Trump Is Having A Jimmy Carter Level Presidency
Date: April 21, 2026
Hosts: Tim, Zach, Rich, Lucas (Lucas absent for part of episode)
Main Theme:
An unfiltered, witty look at the latest news around Trump’s second-term struggles—especially the Iran crisis, mounting economic woes, comparisons to the Carter era, wild administration antics, and some irreverent political gossip. The crew critiques MAGA world while poking fun (and sometimes despair) at America’s political chaos.

Episode Overview

This week, the Find Out crew dives into Trump’s handling of the Iran hostage crisis and gas price surge, drawing direct (and often hilarious) comparisons to Jimmy Carter’s beleaguered presidency. The discussion unpacks Trump’s negotiation style, his administration’s chaotic messaging on Iran, fallout among allies, and the “signal vs. noise” around MAGA politics today. The hosts also touch on the right’s troubles with inflation, the effectiveness of economic sanctions, and some viral “only-in-Trump’s-America” moments—plus a couple of side rants about political opportunism and social media drama.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s “Carter Level” Meltdown Over Iran

Timestamps: 01:50–06:42, 09:05–11:13, 15:46–19:44

Crisis Parallels:
- Trump’s Iran debacle—missing airmen, sky-high gas prices, and the threat of a hostage situation—mirrors the 1979 Carter presidency’s infamous failures.
- “He is literally having a Carter presidency. That’s crazy.” — Zach (06:06)
- Trump is reportedly obsessed with the Carter analogy: “The hostage crisis is what doomed the Jimmy Carter presidency… You knew about that? Somebody told you.” — Lucas (05:41-05:46); “Wow, look at that history lesson.” — Zach (05:48)
- Carter’s self-sacrifice vs. Trump’s self-interest: Carter sold his peanut farm, Trump (jokingly) offers bombs and rage tweets (06:21).
Negotiation Style:
- Trump’s “cry wolf” warnings and bombastic threats are losing credibility: “...when you cry wolf a million times over… people become numb.” — Lucas (03:38)
- Hosts ridicule the supposed deal: “He keeps framing it like… ‘We’re doing what Obama and no other president could have done.’ Like, we’re eventually going to get to this place that nobody thought we could get.” — Tim (11:13)
- Reports of Trump nearly being excluded from war meetings due to instability: “They’ve kicked him out of some meetings about Iran because he’s so unstable and crazy.” — Rich (02:32).
Optics and Reality:
- Social media threats as policy: “He’s just too old for this… He’s like, this is hard, I want to golf.” — Lucas (10:13-10:16)
- Iran’s trolling and AI-generated content is outdoing Trump’s old-school Twitter game: “They’re beating Trump at his own game. This troll… they’re trolling the fuck out of him.” — Zach (07:45)
- The real challenge is not military, but economic—especially with gas prices stalled and no easy fix, “It’s going to take a very long time—well past November, which is what he’s really worried about.” — Tim (08:55)

2. Administration Incompetence, Gas Prices, and False Promises

Timestamps: 08:17–14:44, 16:25–17:49, 26:11–29:27

Gas Prices & Oil Crunch:
- Treasury signals high gas prices through 2027, Trump claims immediate relief: “Nope, nope, they’re going to drop immediately.” — Rich imitating Trump (08:17)
- The reality: Disabled oil tankers, logistical backups, and months to restore the oil flow (08:31-08:59).
Iran Negotiation “Deal”:
- Trump would offer $20B to Iran for their uranium—a deal more generous than Obama’s (11:51–12:22):
  “Remember how all Republicans lost their minds when Barack Obama released $1.7 billion… you’re giving them $20 billion?” — Tim (12:05)
- Hypocrisy in GOP messaging: “They just control the optics… now it’s like $20 billion, no big deal.” — Zach (12:39)
Tariffs and Economic Fallout:
- Trump admin begins refunding $166B in tariff revenues, but only to businesses (not consumers): “$166 billion is going back to balance sheets, not to the customers who covered the balance.” — Lucas (27:11)
- Tariffs billed as a populist win, end up a boondoggle for big companies: “Small business stimulus!” — Lucas (27:59)
- Costco’s hot dogs as the inflation barometer: “As long as I’m here, there’ll be a dollar fifty. Like that’s…” — Rich (28:11)

3. Veepstakes, GOP Infighting, and Political Fallout

Timestamps: 17:49–19:59

J.D. Vance as the Flailing VP:
- “Everything he touches falls apart… What did you do besides kill the Pope and not get an Iran deal?” — Rich (18:14)
- Vance as a calculated opportunist: “I wouldn’t underestimate Vance. Vance has an ability to weasel out of shit…” — Zach (18:52)
- Doubts about a VP’s future run: “No VP in history has ever successfully run as the change candidate after their ticket…” — Lucas (19:44)

4. Cash Patel, Defamation Theater, and “Deep State” Paranoia

Timestamps: 20:55–26:06

Cash Patel’s $250M Lawsuit Against The Atlantic:
- Patel, the scandal-prone FBI Director, sues for alleged defamation about his drunken antics:
  “Would awfully read. So apologies for that, but everybody should go read it because it basically talks about him… being a complete alcoholic…” — Tim (21:07)
- “Quarter billion dollars… for you to defame me for something that… We have video of him chugging beers in the men’s locker room.” — Tim (21:38–21:43)
- Lawsuit as media intimidation—not likely to win: “It’s intimidation. It’s intimidation tactic. Never works.” — Tim (23:29–23:33)
“Deep State” & Federal Agency Drama:
- The myth that all federal workers are lefties: “There are conservatives that work in the federal government… I looked up and they had Fox News on…” — Rich (25:33)
- Civil servants will leak on officials they despise: “If you do something that the federal employees do not like, they will leak the… out of it.” — Tim (24:57)

5. RFK Jr., Health Policy, and Bananas Presidential Appointments

Timestamps: 32:28–43:32

RFK Jr. at HHS:
- Becerra’s accomplishments vs. RFK Jr.’s destructive budget: “He was handed a balanced budget for HHS and somehow, I think, within like six months, turned it into a $50 million deficit…” — Lucas (32:28)
- Deep skepticism of RFK’s qualifications: “Turns out that hiring a narcissistic, former heroin addict, habitual liar, habitual womanizer with a law degree and no health experience… was maybe not the right choice…” — Tim (33:57)
- AI-generated and real RFK Jr. outbursts: “I saw this AI video of RFK Jr… He said, ‘I’m going to wage a war on fat children…’ No, it’s fat gay kids.” — Zach / Rich (34:22–34:28)
- Worm-eaten brain story: “He claimed… he couldn’t pay alimony because he had such cognitive decline from the worm eating his brain. And then 15 years later… ‘I could be president.’” — Tim (35:16)
Devastating Cuts to Public Health:
- “25% budget cut for HHS… includes a 40% decrease in National Institute of Health funding and a 25% cut of the HHS workforce…” — Lucas (39:33–39:45)
- Government funds most medical innovation, not pharma companies: “It’s tremendously bankrolled by the US Government, and now it’s like, well, good luck improving…” — Zach (40:50)
Kennedy Legacy Shaming:
- “JFK was great. RFK was great. You suck.” — Rich (41:44)
- “He got zero people in his family to support him. So that’s gotta tell you something.” — Zach (42:50)
- Classic quote cited: “I served with Jack Kennedy. I knew Jack Kennedy. Jack Kennedy was a friend of mine. Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy.” — Rich/Tim (43:11)

6. Political Horse Race—California Gubernatorial Polls

Timestamps: 30:32–32:28, 44:05–45:17

Becerra Surge:
- “Right after he came on the Find Out podcast on Thursday… he goes from like 4 or 5% to 15%.” — Tim (31:01)
Progressive Consolidation:
- Betty Yee drops out, increasing pressure for others to exit and avoid split votes: “There’s going to be massive pressure on those guys to drop out because we can’t have seven candidates.” — Rich (44:43)
- Aim is to avoid a Republican-only general election, echoing Democratic consolidation behind Biden in 2020 (45:17).

7. Bonus: Social Media, Merch, and Inside Jokes

Timestamps: 47:30–54:30

The hosts riff about YouTube subscriber plaques, proper pronunciation of “ibogaine,” and the perils of user names being auto-engraved.
A new “Find Out” social app is coming: “An algorithm-free, billionaire-free social platform…” — Tim (51:35)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

“When you cry wolf a million times over… people become numb to—when there is an actual wolf, the whole thing loses its punch. It’s a terrible negotiation strategy.” — Lucas (03:38)
“He did write the book, you know… He did not write the book.” — Lucas & Zach mock Trump’s ‘Art of the Deal’ (04:12–04:18)
On AI trolling: “They’re killing it… This troll, he’s like a troll, you know, they’re trolling the fuck out of him… it’s great.” — Zach (07:45)
On J.D. Vance: “Everything he touches falls apart… what did you do besides kill the Pope and not get an Iran deal?” — Rich (18:03–18:14)
“Turns out that hiring a narcissistic, former heroin addict, habitual liar, habitual womanizer with a law degree and no health experience… was maybe not the right choice to be in charge…” — Tim (33:57)
Classic callback: “I served with Jack Kennedy… Senator, you are no Jack Kennedy.” — Rich (43:11)

Episode Flow & Tone

Candid, irreverent, and often laugh-out-loud funny—the hosts balance sharp political analysis with wild asides and honest frustration.
Language is direct and conversational, full of in-jokes and pop culture references (e.g., Taco Tuesday, Costco hot dogs, “roadkill genitalia,” the “deep state”).
The group maintains an anti-MAGA but anti-echo-chamber vibe. They are harshly critical of Trump and his circle, but not afraid to poke fun at “their own side” when warranted.

Important Segments & Timestamps

01:50: Main Trump/Carter comparison and Iran crisis intro
05:41–06:21: Trump’s political panic over being “the next Carter”
09:05 – 11:13: Oil, gas prices, and global fallout
12:05: Trump’s “deal” with Iran and GOP hypocrisy
15:46–19:44: Iran deadline, gas, and the veepstakes mess
20:55–26:06: Cash Patel’s drunken lawsuit and “deep state” conspiracies
32:28: RFK Jr.’s HHS disaster, viral AI moments, and Kennedy family shade
44:05–45:17: Democratic consolidation in California races
51:07–54:00: Listener inside joke: “fire ants in the comments” and closing banter

How To Use This Summary

Want to sound up-to-date on post-2024 Trump politics? Use this as a cheat sheet—it captures the absurdity, critical details, and the podcast’s signature shade.
If you missed viral moments (Iran TikToks, RFK memes), notable policy contradictions, or inside-left/Biden-world gossip—this recap has your back.
For the extra laughs: Don’t skip the banter about social media misinformation, personalized YouTube plaques, and wild political side quests.

“Fire ants in the comments!” — If you made it this far, you’re a true Find Out fan.