Trump’s DC National Guard Stunt, Netroots Nation Recap & Social Media Censorship Exposed

Summary

The Find Out Podcast: Episode Summary Episode Title: Trump’s DC National Guard Stunt, Netroots Nation Recap & Social Media Censorship Exposed
Release Date: August 12, 2025

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1. Conference Recap: Netroots Nation in New Orleans

The episode begins with host Tim addressing the absence of the previous Thursday's episode, explaining that he, Luke, and Zach attended Netroots Nation in New Orleans. This conference, a significant gathering of progressive activists, served as a platform for meaningful discussions and strategic planning for future initiatives.

• Luke's First Conference Experience (00:54):
  "It was an experience. Like I had never been in a spot that had so many like straight up, like-minded individuals... All stuff that really, really matters. It's pretty cool."
  Luke expresses his amazement at the unity and shared passion among attendees, highlighting the productive environment and the strength it brings to their cause.

• Networking Highlights (02:03):
  Tim shares meetings with prominent figures such as Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison and Representative Justin Pearson from Memphis. The interactions underscored the collective energy and commitment to fighting for progressive causes.

2. Trump’s National Guard Stunt in Washington D.C.

A significant portion of the discussion centers on President Donald Trump's recent move to activate 800 National Guardsmen in Washington D.C. This action, perceived as a political stunt, also involves placing D.C. police under federal control.

• Critique of the Stunt (03:52):
  Tim introduces the topic, expressing frustration and skepticism about Trump's motives.
  "Donald Trump is activating National Guardsmen in D.C. to distract from the Jeffrey Epstein conversation and vilify homeless people."

• Crime Rate Reality (06:11):
  Tim, having lived in D.C., counters the narrative by presenting factual data on crime rates.
  "The D.C. crime rate is at a 30-year low. It's lower than last year's drop. Actually, across the country, violent crime on average is down."

• Implications of the Move (08:49):
  Tim elaborates on the inefficacy of deploying guardsmen, suggesting they may end up inactive as seen in Los Angeles.
  "These guardsmen can't make arrests; they're likely going to sit on the floor of a gym, doing nothing productive."

3. Social Media Censorship and the Importance of Alternative Media

The hosts delve into the pervasive issue of social media censorship, emphasizing how algorithms suppress progressive content and limit the reach of important messages.

• Algorithmic Suppression (16:40):
  Luke points out the subtle ways content is censored by avoiding certain keywords.
  "They've been calling the protests 'concerts' or 'music festivals' to bypass the algorithms that shut down protest-related content."

• Case Study: Logan Ireland (21:10):
  Zach shares the story of Logan Ireland, a trans military veteran facing unjust discrimination, which was suppressed on platforms like TikTok.
  "Logan Ireland is fighting to retain his full military retirement after being forced out due to his transgender status. His story got millions of views but was heavily censored on mainstream platforms."

• Support for Alternative Platforms (19:42):
  The importance of supporting non-algorithm-driven platforms like their own podcast is emphasized.
  "We need to create spaces not dominated by algorithms, which is why we're doing this podcast."

4. Critique of Republican Policies and Hypocrisy

The discussion highlights the contradictions and harmful policies pushed by Republicans, particularly Trump's administration, and their impact on marginalized communities.

• Homelessness and Medicaid Cuts (07:07):
  Tim criticizes Trump's approach to homelessness and Medicaid.
  "If Donald Trump wants to get rid of homeless people, he should support policies that lift people out of poverty rather than cutting $1.1 trillion of Medicaid."

• Charging Minors as Adults (11:38):
  The hosts condemn Trump's proposal to charge 14-year-olds as adults for crimes, linking it to systemic racism and discrimination.
  "Charging 14-year-olds as adults for any crime is a horrible idea. He wants to punish people and make his base feel taken care of by targeting marginalized groups."

• J.K. Rowling's Anti-Trans Stance (44:05):
  Luke vehemently criticizes J.K. Rowling for her anti-trans remarks, branding her actions as harmful and discriminatory.
  "Her only interest is to attack trans people. She is quite possibly one of the worst people on the planet."

5. Future Outlook and Call to Action

Looking ahead, the hosts discuss strategies for upcoming elections and the necessity of holding Trump and his allies accountable.

• Holding Trump Accountable (37:55):
  Tim envisions a future where leadership proposes substantial reforms akin to a Marshall Plan for the U.S., rebuilding and advancing the nation.
  "The candidate that ends up winning is going to have to have some sort of Marshall Plan for the United States... Someone who can hold people accountable is going to be very successful in the primary."

• Mobilizing for Change (40:35):
  Zach emphasizes the importance of voter turnout and disengagement among disillusioned voters.
  "A lot of them are going to just stay home. They'll sit it out."
  Tim counters by highlighting the potential swing among Latino and Black voters, urging active participation.
  "I think some of the Latino community, in particular, will swing because they see the real impact of Trump's policies."

6. Get Out Episode Segment

The episode concludes with a light-hearted segment where the hosts reminisce about an attempted recording during their time in New Orleans, which went off-script due to alcohol and sleep aids.

• Behind-the-Scenes Anecdote (51:36):
  Tim shares a humorous look into their unedited episode, hinting at future exclusive content for paid subscribers.
  "I started cackling and by the end, I had lost complete control of the show."

• Encouraging Support (52:33):
  The hosts encourage listeners to support the podcast through subscriptions and merchandise to sustain their independent media efforts.
  "If you could support us with a $6 a month on Substack or buy some merch, it helps us build this into a much bigger community."

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Notable Quotes

1. Luke on Netroots Nation Experience (00:54):
   "It was an experience... All stuff that really, really matters. It's pretty cool."

2. Tim on Trump's National Guard Move (06:11):
   "The D.C. crime rate is at a 30-year low. It's lower than last year's drop."

3. Zach on Social Media Censorship (24:20):
   "You can't say genocide, you can't say ICE, you can't see deportations."

4. Luke on J.K. Rowling (44:05):
   "She is quite possibly one of the worst people on the planet."

5. Tim on Future Leadership (37:55):
   "Someone who can hold people accountable is going to be very successful in the primary."

6. Zach on Voter Disengagement (42:35):
   "They're going to just stay home. They'll sit it out."

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Conclusion

This episode of The Find Out Podcast offers a comprehensive analysis of President Trump's latest political maneuvers, the state of social media censorship, and the underlying hypocrisies within Republican policies. Through passionate discussions and real-life examples, the hosts underscore the importance of independent media and grassroots activism in countering misinformation and advocating for progressive change. The episode serves as both a critical examination of current political strategies and a rallying call for sustained community engagement leading up to future elections.

Transcript

[Tim]

Foreign. Hey everybody, welcome back to the Find out podcast. We got to start off with an apology. We did not drop an episode on Thursday because Luke, Zach and I were at Netroots Nation in New Orleans meeting with a bunch of progressive activists and you know, had a really, really important meetings and discussions and I think we got a lot of big plans. And part of the reason that Zach's now here is that he's working on a top secret project that he'll be able to talk about in a few weeks. And, and Chris is actually off with his family for some well deserved time off. So you're going to have to just deal with me, Rich and Luke this week. But just to kick off, Luke, this was your first conference ever, attending like a political conference before. Just curious what you thought.

[Luke]

It was an experience. Like I had never been in a spot that had so many like straight up, like minded individuals mean. I don't think I could have said something that they disagree with that someone in there disagreed with. Everybody in there is like fighting for their own individual thing and it's like all stuff that really, really matters. It's pretty cool.

[Zach]

But wait, I was told that the left is hyper focused on canceling everybody and you have to be really careful with what you say and that you're not allowed to have any opinions about anything.

[Luke]

Don't say slurs and hatred. Nobody's got a problem with you. Crazy. I know.

[Tim]

I mean, like, for us, those are.

[Zach]

Deeply held beliefs, Luke. Deeply held beliefs.

[Tim]

You know, we, we had some, you know, when I, we started White Dudes for Harris, we had some reservations about the community because, you know, obviously for, for good reasons. And it's been really great to see everybody, the progressive community has sort of welcomed us with open arms. And you know, even at the, at the conference, I mean, Luke, you had several people come up to you who treated you like.

[Luke]

I think my name is actually Shane.

[Tim]

Yes.

[Luke]

Some guy came up to me and said I was Shane. And I was like, okay, sure.

[Tim]

Didn't, didn't quite nail it, but it was good.

[Luke]

We stuck the landing. We took a picture.

[Tim]

Yeah, yeah. We had some really good conversations. We talked with Minnesota Attorney General Keith Ellison, who was great. We talked to Representative Justin Pearson from Memphis, who is one of the two members of the legislature that got kicked out for basically pro protesting for stronger gun laws. It was great to talk to him. So it was really a good shot in the arm of energy. And I think for those of you wondering, like, is anyone coming to save us? There are a lot of people who are working on this, we say we, but.

[Luke]

But really, Mr. Interview Extraordinaire here was the one that was yapping with all these people. It was pretty insane. Tim was like, wham. He was in there, you know, real good work.

[Zach]

I mean, he's our Beltway insider, you know, so this is like he gets.

[Luke]

In there like a super secret handshake or something.

[Tim]

You know, when you do this long enough, sometimes some of it gets a little easier.

[Zach]

So I think they, they just tap their feet under the edge of the stall when they're in the bathroom at the conferences. And that's how it gets.

[Tim]

Everybody knows any Republican senators at this, like you might have been referring, but.

[Luke]

They don't even go to their own fucking town halls. They're not going to come to something like this.

[Tim]

That's true, that's true. But it was fun to be in New Orleans. Great community, great progressive community. I think a lot, a lot of people are gearing up for a big fight next year. So stay tuned on that. But let's talk about some more pressing matters. Trump, in his ever, ever longing desire to get rid of the Jeffrey Epstein conversation has created another political stunt today, which is to activate the National Guard 800 guardsman to put in D.C. and he's also taken the D.C. police under federal control because it's a district, and so he can do that. You know, I have lots of thoughts on this, but I lived in D.C. for 10 years. But I would love to hear from people who didn't live in D.C. to hear what you have to think about this first.

[Luke]

It's dumber than.

[Tim]

Yeah, Rich, that's good.

[Zach]

I think that's, I think we can wrap up.

[Luke]

Actually, I think we're done there.

[Zach]

Pretty much done with the opposite.

[Tim]

Four minutes.

[Zach]

You know, I mean, I've, I've heard things about when you live in a red state, like, you have to understand the blue cities are spoken of as if they were like these hellscapes where there's just. If you're white and you go into the wrong neighborhood, like, you will be murdered. You know, like, that's, that's the, that's how they talk about it. And so it's funny because I'm actually wearing a shirt I got in St. Louis, and St. Louis has a significantly higher per capita murder rate than Washington, D.C. and yet I had a delightful time with my family in St. Louis. We did a whole bunch of things. So we did not go in the arch. We took pictures in front of one thing.

[Tim]

They're Known for.

[Zach]

It's. It's pretty expensive.

[Luke]

I know it is. It's sick.

[Zach]

I'm not rich, Luke. I mean, I am rich. No, there. So didn't mean to talk about, you know, tourism in St. Louis, but while we're on the subject. No, there's like a. They took a shoe factory from like a hundred years ago. It's the coolest thing ever. St. Louis. Getting some free exposure. And they converted it into a like playground. Kids museum. Children's museum.

[Luke]

It should not be a children's museum. That is like a. All ages.

[Zach]

It's insane. Right, right, right. I thought you meant because like children get chewed up in the gears or whatever.

[Luke]

But this is awesome.

[Zach]

It is awesome. We spent an entire day there. It's like a 500,000 square foot, 400,000 absolutely massive factory. Like a sixth floor factory the size of a city block. And the whole thing now is just all kids stuff. And so you go in, but it's all made with old factory parts. And so you go in and it's. Right. Yeah, it's, it's absolutely wild. So anyway, when I hear about D.C. like, I know people in D.C. and you can look like you can just trust the stats. You could, I guarantee, just like in LA earlier this summer, at the worst of the worst of the worst, you could go out and get brunch with your family or go for a jog, you know, probably in the middle of the night, statistically you would be fine.

[Tim]

So, so the I, I, maybe I'm. The, Maybe I should be doing the get at the end because I'm really, as someone who's lived in D.C. for a long time, this is really pissing me off. Because first of all, as Luke said, The D.C. crime rate is at a 30 year low. It's lower than last year's drop. And actually across the country, violent crime on average is down. Right, exactly right. But, you know, as Rich pointed out, you know, Memphis is actually number one. That's a red state. And I think St. Louis is number two. That's a red state. I believe eight of the 10 most deadly cities are in red states. And, but the, but overall in this country, the rates have dropped. I mean, the 80s, it was bad. Some of the 90s, it was bad. But, you know, it hasn't been that way. But you know, this is, this is Donald Trump's way of getting away from the Jeffrey Epstein list and continuing to vilify both homeless people. Because he was like, we're moving the homeless people out.

[Luke]

He told them to Leave first.

[Tim]

Like where they go.

[Luke]

Who are well known for being flush with cash and being able to make crazy life changes at the drop of a fucking right.

[Tim]

And he is suggesting they can't be around the Capitol. All this. First of all, I lived on Capitol Hill. I lived. I live both on the northwest side and the. And the southeast side, which is actually tended to be where more of the crime has been. And I lived there 20 years ago. I did not fear for my life. And if Donald Trump wants to. Wants to get rid of homeless people, then Donald Trump should support policies that lift people out of poverty rather than cutting $1.1 trillion of Medicaid, which is going to create a whole lot more homeless people. He would invest in mental health services, which he has never done. And instead he's trying to villainize. Really, what he's trying to do is villainize homeless people and people of color. He's trying. What? Sorry.

[Zach]

No, you're going. I was gonna say, why are you puking all this Marxist, socialist, communist stuff on us? Like you're. This is un American how you're describing Nasty Woke.

[Tim]

You have found me out as the secret Marx. Yeah, I just want everybody to burn. But seriously, though, if you live. If you live in dc, I don't care what neighborhood you live in, the cops are everywhere. This is not a. Like, there are not enough police. Also, the other thing that I love about this is that Donald Trump told us that he was not allowed to call up the national guard in Washington D.C. on January 6, which was the most violent day in D.C. in probably 30 years, if not ever. And so, you know, the suggestion that these 800 who can't make any arrests, by the way, they're doing what they're going to do in la, which is probably sit on the floor of a gym.

[Luke]

Real quick. Real quick, quick. Did you guys hear about the rogue shitters in la?

[Tim]

What?

[Luke]

There was several people, National Guardsmen who were taking shits in Humvees as a sign of, like, protest of being out there.

[Tim]

There's a.

[Luke]

There's a squad of Phantom of the National Guardsman and I hope. I hope somebody picks it up in. In D.C. if I ever need to.

[Zach]

Come up with like a grunge punk band name Phantom, Phantom Shitters is top of the list. Write the music later. You always name the band first.

[Tim]

Yeah, yeah. Yes.

[Luke]

Sit out there and they're going to sit on concrete and they're going to play video games when they're not on duty. That's what it's going to Be again.

[Tim]

And how much? I know that the LA they called up like 5,000 and it costs somewhere in the neighborhood of $150 million I believe. So you know, it's not going to be the same. But Even if it's 20% of $150 million, you know, this is the administration that told us that we can't afford Medicaid anymore and we can't afford food assistance, but we can build a 200 million dollar ballroom off of the, the.

[Luke]

White House donated his salary, Tim.

[Tim]

He donated it.

[Luke]

Don't even be mad about that.

[Tim]

Yeah, and how much did he charge in golf cart fees last year? Like $100 million, something like that. But anyways, like it's just nonsense. He wants to get away from Jeffrey Epstein. It's not working. And actually I saw a poll this weekend which was like actually showed the first time I have seen basically agreement from both Democrats and Republicans over 85% of both want the Epstein files released. And instead what he did is try to get this grand jury testimony released which the judge shut down today. But like a lot of maggots are saying, see, Democrats are doing it too. But like no, he really, he didn't allow it because he knew it was a smoke and mirrors and there's nothing in there for you to see in the grand jury testimony. You just need to release the files. Why won't you release the files?

[Luke]

And he's silly.

[Tim]

He's willing to spend tens of millions of dollars to call up National Guardsmen who have other jobs by the way, you know, to do this nonsense. It's just, I mean, it's just.

[Zach]

Well if you saw the last couple of jobs reports, the, those people probably don't actually have jobs. So now. So he's, he's really, it's like he's.

[Luke]

Really distracting with this hand and then protecting himself with this hand with this whole 14 year old adult.

[Tim]

That's. Why don't you talk about that for a second? What, what is that for?

[Luke]

He's so convinced that there's these gangs of teenagers in the US that are, you know, violent and they're killing everybody. So he's going to start, he wants to start charging 14 year olds and up as adults but not just with violent crimes that he wants them to be 14, he wants 14 year olds to be adults in related to sex crimes as well. Which is definitely a look for a guy who's trying to keep himself safe.

[Tim]

Yes, I mean, I mean it's, there's so many reasons why charging 14 year olds with as adults for any crime is a horrible idea if you want to create a, a whole generation of people who then have really hard time, you know, living p. Getting past those mistakes as a 14 year old. Like I don't want to be held accountable for what I did at 14. And let's be honest, he wants this to mostly go after brown and black.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Tim]

Teenagers as well. He doesn't give a shit about anybody else. He just wants to punish people and make his base feel like they're being taken care of because he's taken care of, quote unquote, the bad people.

[Zach]

I mean and this all came because let's all remember who was attacked. The, the whole reason he's doing all of. I mean there's the, there's the distractions but big balls. 19 year old. 19 year old fascist named Big Balls who worked for Doge and is now like working for he. He has some job and like he's a federal employee. He's a 19 year old troll and he's just getting paid by the by taxpayers.

[Luke]

Everybody's like oh well it has nothing to do with that. And then you go look at like Utah where they just saved that as where they expanded the Romeo and Juliet law. So there wasn't.

[Tim]

Well, explain. Explain what?

[Luke]

Oh, I always do this. There was a guy that was of some relation to a. What.

[Tim]

What is which he was in the legislature. It was not the governor.

[Luke]

No, no, no, no, it wasn't the governor but like one of his family members got in trouble for being involved with someone that was not of legal age. And lo and behold they, they edited it every so that you know, when you're 19 and you're with. I think it was a 14 or 15 year old. Maybe 13. It might have been 13. So that, that's not bad as bad.

[Tim]

It's still.

[Luke]

I forget what the crime that he's being charged with is. Might be. Ms. Sexual misconduct.

[Tim]

But it's not a felony, right? It's not a felony.

[Luke]

Right.

[Tim]

Yeah. I mean you're look, you're hearing the, the you know, hypocrisy on the right about this stuff. Right. Like it's like when they're buddies. You're right. Yes. You hear this whole like save the children thing. And yet like, you know, Trump has been credibly accused of sexual assault by a two dozen women. This person's like nephew or cousin or something. Pretty sure it's nephew was. Was charged with rape or. Well, yeah, I think it was rape. And they changed the laws to Lower the age of consent into the lower teen ages, which is about as disgusting as it comes. And actually, look, it reminds me of something that you've told us. What is the thing that you. What is the law that you would want to propose and the reactions you would get. Yeah.

[Luke]

Raise the age of consent by one year. You can also extend the Romeo and Juliet law so that like. Because right now, if you're like an 18 year old and you're a 16 year old, it's fine. So then if you're a 19 year old with your 17 years fin. But anybody who protests it, who's above the age of 35, drop kick them into the fucking sun. Because the only reason they could possibly want to raise the age of consent is because they want to be with someone as young as legally possible and as a result them get rid of them.

[Zach]

Well, I'll sign that.

[Tim]

Did we get our get fucked episode segment already? I think we did. I mean, it's just like it, there's, it just goes back. The overarching Republican principle is do as I say, not as I do. And that is a. That is applicable almost across every issue. Right.

[Luke]

And well, like, look at Ryan Walters in Oklahoma. He's been protesting all the LGBTQ books because they're porn for kids. And then he gets caught watching porn in his office by his aides. There's naked ladies on the tv.

[Tim]

He's still like, right. He's still like. Though I don't know how that happened. I'm like, well, you have to try pretty hard to get that on. So anyways, back to D.C. you know, I, I just, it's just a spoke of mirrors thing. I think the worry though is that he is potentially using this as a testing ground to go into other cities. And I'm gonna guess that he's not going to go to Memphis next.

[Zach]

Well, the, the thing is next, he already, he already tried this with Los Angeles and it backfired because nobody took his bait. You know, Karen Bass came out and they're walking down the street. Gavin Newsom called his. There's no governor of dc.

[Tim]

But, but.

[Zach]

They are shutting them down.

[Luke]

Music festival people have been noticing that if you say the word protest or you say the word like anything related to this is what we're doing, every algorithm there is will shut it the down. So they've been calling the protests that are going on in LA and have been going on in LA for like the last six weeks. Somebody figured out that if you use the word concert or music festival in Relation to that, the algorithm pushes it. So all of a sudden I'm getting these videos of like, thousands and thousands of people with thousands and thousands of views of them protesting in LA that have been going on for weeks. And you go back and you look, anyone that says protest, 2000 views, but now suddenly these music festival ones have thousands of views.

[Tim]

Yeah, I mean, I mean, we've seen this, we were even joking this weekend that, like, you know, the way to make sure a video goes nowhere is to talk about what is it?

[Luke]

It was, it was Gaza vaccines, sex crimes and ice.

[Tim]

Yeah, you've put those all together, you can guarantee to have a video that gets nowhere. But I, you know, I think that's why it's important for those of us working on this to create spaces that are not, you know, they're not dominated by an algorithm, and I think that it's harder to grow them. This is why we're doing this.

[Luke]

But, like, you guys are so important to listeners and also you guys.

[Zach]

Yeah, 100 agree. I, I think when I think of, like, what we're going to talk about on this podcast versus what I can put into a TikTok video, which is by far the most restrictive and the most finicky or completely inexplicable algorithm, it all tracks back to profit, because TikTok desperately wants to first not get shut down. But if, even if they do get shut down, in some sense, TikTok wants to be profitable and they want to be tepid and broadly entertaining. They want to. They want people dancing and talking about health and wellness and gym routines. They do not want people talking about anything that's real, because real shit can be depressing or induce anxiety. It can make you anxious, it can make you not want to go buy things. And, and when I look back to the point, when I think about what we can talk about, what we do talk about freely here, it's in part because I hate to use the word, like, beholden to big money or whatever, but. But it's that same concept. We are not funded by anybody except for our listeners. And because of that, we only hold ourselves accountable by what we say to our listeners. And so we can just say the honest things we can say when ICE is arresting people without having to use bingo.

[Luke]

Right?

[Zach]

Exactly.

[Luke]

The video is getting 2,000 views anywhere.

[Zach]

You can't say genocide, you can't say ice, you can't see deportations, you can't even say the names of people who are being victimized.

[Luke]

Language, vaccines.

[Zach]

You can't say, yeah, people Saying, you know, getting unalived by the jab or whatever. Like when they're spreading their conspiracies like it's, it's such a clown show and I hate that.

[Luke]

The thing is you can track it directly back to the first time Tika banned. Yeah, it was so much better before.

[Tim]

Yeah. Oh yeah. No, we, we all like, because obviously we all compare how we're doing. You know, most of these guys are in the hundreds of thousands. I'm, I'm still trying to, trying to catch up.

[Luke]

Everybody go follow Tim on Tick Tock. We want him to get to 100,000.

[Tim]

There we go. There we go. But, but yeah, you could, you could. You. It all. We all dropped at the same time. So it was very obvious that like they had made a change. And I think they made the change because they knew they were going to have to sell the US arm. And it's looking like one of the potentials is Larry Ellison of Oracle, who is a Trump supporter. And so it, you know, that'll be.

[Luke]

Good for our business, right?

[Tim]

Yeah, well, it would be great. I mean, probably if he throttles it even worse. It could. But you know, I think that we need to be prepared for some of these social media platforms to not be conducive to free speech as much as they say it. And that's why creating shows like this that like we have no, the only, like, Rich, you made a great point. The only restrictions we have is if our audience tells us they don't like us doing something and we do listen, you know, we're not going to like, be, you know, we're not going go based on one or two comments. But like, if the community is saying we want you to talk about this or we don't want you to talk about that, like we have to listen to that. You know, so it's, it's a lot harder to build a, a following off of a platform that doesn't have an algorithm. But it's really important because then we, you guys won't lose us. And that's why, you know, we're always asking like, yeah, if you could support us with a $6 a month on substack or you could buy some merch. It helps us to build this into a much bigger community so that we can really affect change next year then obviously in the, in the presidential as well, because we can't rely on social media platforms anymore. Like those days are, are gone and we still have a massive advantage on this. But like we are way behind. But now I You know, they're all owned by people who are bowing down to Trump. It's a real problem.

[Luke]

Bad people.

[Zach]

I'll give you guys. Sorry, I was checking to make sure my mic. Sometimes my mic cuts out. Tap, tap, tap. Like the ASMR videos where they're just like tapping my shit the whole time.

[Tim]

Those are the worst. I hate it.

[Zach]

Let me give our listeners a really sharp example. I did a video a couple of days ago about Logan Ireland. Logan Ireland is an absolute badass master sergeant in the Air Force, 15 years. Logan Ireland is married to a woman named Layla Ireland, and she's retired from the army. And they are this awesome military power couple, patriots. They also both happen to be trans. Logan is a trans man. Layla is a trans woman. It's a wild story, but they're amazing people. And Logan was in the process of being, or is in the process of being forced out of the military because he's trans by Pete Hegseth and all of their insane executive orders and initially was approved for a 15 or was approved for full retirement at 15 years. Typically it's 20 years, but they said anyone who was like 15 to 18 years could apply and then. And get full retirement. And that was just revoked. And Pete Buttigieg did. He's covered it broadly. These people were. Logan and Layla were on Ellen in 2017 when this first became a thing in his first term, but then he didn't go through with it, so. And now Logan is fighting this in court because they denied him full retirement. So after 15 years of service, he's decorated. He's been promoted many times. He's, he's loved his care about the vets, though. His, his, his, his leader. I, I can't remember what they call it in the military, but the person who's in charge who had to give him that news was crying when, when he told Logan that, that he wasn't going to get military retirement. So Logan's gonna have to find another career now unless he can win in, in court.

[Luke]

I told that George with bone spurs said, we don't like you.

[Zach]

Yeah, unfit to serve. They said people with gender dysphoria, which Logan I don't think has been diagnosed with gender dysphoria. That's a separate thing and it's a controvers diagnosis. But they're saying people who are trans are unfit to serve. And obviously that's stupid and insane.

[Luke]

He's only been serving for 15 years.

[Zach]

I know, right? Under Obama, under Trump 1.

[Luke]

Trump's arms off.

[Zach]

Yes, Logan is absolutely Jacks beard. Like, Logan is a, is a man. Like walking in America. Logan is a man. There's just nothing. You don't have to say anything else about it. But back to the point of how we got here. I told this story on every, in a video that was on every platform. That story is, I believe, over 2 million on. It's a 2.1 million views on Instagram right now. Instagram doesn't pay anybody for any content, so they just ship it. If it's doing well, they just send it. It's at about 400,000 on YouTube and I think it's at like 150, 200,000 on TikTok. So that story, even though I have twice as many followers on Tick Tock as any other platform. So that's.

[Luke]

It's a scam.

[Zach]

They, they. Because I said the word trans. Guaranteed. Because I said the word trans in that story. Because I'm not going to tiptoe around it. I'm not gonna, not gonna not say the words.

[Luke]

Language. I don't, don't say G side. I don't say live. I don't say any of that. If a video is gonna go, it's gonna go, yep.

[Zach]

Right. I'm not gonna play their game. And, but so they're suppressing this story that people desperately want to hear. And this is just one little tiny example. But it's that it's topic that we cover. Every, every person, every topic we cover. You have to like, they will just choose that an important story doesn't get out, even though people want the story because it's not conducive to whatever, you know, for profit or political intentions they have for their app.

[Tim]

Well, I think it's pretty obvious that with the Tick Tock case, because obviously they have to negotiate with Donald Trump because he's the one that holds the keys of whether they're legal or not. It, you know, it doesn't take a conspiracist to look at that, especially since the data that you showed is very clear. Like people. That was, and I saw the video. It was very good. It should have traveled further.

[Zach]

Logan's got an amazing story. I just.

[Tim]

Right. But like, amazing. Like, but you like the way you, you, you, you crafted that. You've had plenty of videos that have been millions on, on Tick Tock. And it's just interesting to see the points on the other side. But I think it's just that that's the reality and that's why podcasts and, you know, other forms of media are so important because they can't CE and you know, they want to. Right? They want to go after us. And like I said, if Larry Ellison is the buyer for TikTok US, like I think left wing creators are going to just get absolutely pummeled worse than it already is.

[Zach]

And there will be no way to prove it because everything is behind closed doors. Free speech is, you know, when it's, when it's Nazis on Twitter, suddenly free speech is the most important thing in the world and they should impose all of these regulations on private companies so that they can protect Nazis. But when it's a person celebrating a trans member of the military on any other platform, you know, suppress it and nobody said about it. Right, right.

[Tim]

Also, let's, let's do with the Republican quote unquote logic for another minute. Like most Republicans would also say that Logan should use the women's restroom, right? Like this big jacked man with a beard. The whole thing is just so nonsensical and absurd. But like they, the. Their position is only discrimination. That's the only thing that matters in.

[Luke]

This care about anything else.

[Tim]

There is a 15 year veteran of the military we're gonna say is not qualified to do that job. It means complete, suddenly, like, no, no, like, no like negative remarks, constantly promoted. And also like, as Luke pointed out, it's pretty rich for a guy who like literally got draft deferments for no good reason just because his dad was rich. And now all of a sudden he's going to dictate who's in the military and who's not. Also, like what? Like, it just, it's one of those things. I just don't know like, why? How could anybody look at somebody like that and be like they shouldn't be in the military? Like, it's just like, I mean, I don't want to be in the military, so like I'm fine with anybody who wants to go. Like. And it's just like this whole like not giving the pension benefits is just an element of cruelty. That it just shows that they are.

[Luke]

Just all it is.

[Tim]

Yeah, the cruelty. Like that's the Adam Serworth thing, right? From 2017, 2018. Maga. With Maga, the cruelty is always the point. It's not a policy. It's not like lower taxes, because clearly, like they've been celebrating the $150 billion tax increase we got through tariffs. It's cruelty. And they want to blame somebody for their position in life. And that's really the driver of the whole thing. So I forgot the Other thing we were going to talk about, I've been trying to bring it in my head for 10 minutes.

[Zach]

There's no, you're good. There's the, and we can. 2756. Yeah, there's the, the tariffs on the police or on the chips. But then there was the, the other piece. Oh, the, the. I don't know how long we talk about the, the AI chat bot on true socials.

[Tim]

Oh, actually, this is a good pivot because we were talking about. Okay.

[Zach]

And Musk and, and Grok and. Yeah, they can't get, they can't hide from the truth.

[Tim]

Right. So now that we've covered the whole fact that the Republican logic is, we also have some proof on our side too, because we've been seeing AI chatbots that several right wingers have installed on their platforms spewing the truth out, including, I think, Rich. You said you saw it on Truth Social. Was that right? What was the, what was the question that they asked the, the AI bot on there?

[Zach]

Well, they asked him a whole bunch of questions. And that's the. About it is they asked if the 2020 election was stolen. It said no. They, they asked if the, if tariffs were boosting the stock market. And it said no. Barack Obama is a popular president. Said that his Trump's cryptocurrency investments pose a potential conflict of interest for Trump. And they said that the January 6th attack called it an insurrection and said that it was violent and linked to, and was directly linked to Trump's baseless claims of widespread election fraud. And this is, this is untruth social. So it's like it made it, I think 24 hours and now we'll see, we'll see what, what happens next. But, you know, Trump's going to be upset.

[Tim]

It's an interesting one because we've also seen it on X or Twitter or whatever. Like, Grok has been constantly used to dispel things that Elon Musk says, which is actually quite hilarious, that people underneath it said, you can ask gr, is this correct? And then it will give you an answer. And this is one of the instances where the AI stuff, like, I'm surprised that Republicans, I'm sure they're going to come up with some, like, regulation to like, limit or whatever. But like, they, you know, this is, this is where like, we are not on equal sides, like AI tools that are, they literally scour the entire Internet for information are telling truth social people that the person telling them stuff is. I mean, I don't think it's going to matter. But it is nice to see that something. Yeah, there's something. Right. It's like, at least it's. But it is funny to see it. But I don't know, I mean I, I would like to think that that would be eye opening for people, but if you're untrue social, it's probably not gonna. Nope.

[Zach]

Well, I mean it's just another case of reality having a liberal bias and like there's no way you can get away from it. And, and I think our people, we keep acting like, well the, the like Trump is going to concoct this, this like world where, where Nazis are thrive and everything is suppressed and truth is fake and free speech is banned and, and yet every time he tries something, the world swallows it up. Like the world comes back and just says no. And, and we're seeing it, we see it constantly. Saw it in Los Angeles like back to the protests. Like he does things to try things because he wants to, to control things and.

[Tim]

Right.

[Zach]

He can't control anything. Like he quite literally is in control of, of nothing. And every time he tries something big, the world comes back, claps back, shuts it down and then he claims victory and, and he moves on. So I'm sure that they'll, you know, they'll have some explanation for this. They'll, they'll get rid of it or they'll turn it into like a fixed answer. Like an old school chat bot from 10 years ago that just pipes back like Donald Trump is king, you know, and like there's only like five programmed answers. But it won't last. And it's because you, you can't, you can't run from reality. Like it's going to catch up. Just takes time.

[Tim]

It does seem like in this term like his numbers are terrible and his numbers, you can kind of see it from la, to be perfectly honest. Like when he did that.

[Zach]

Yeah.

[Tim]

And most people saw through it as right. Like it was like there, there were no, no, there was no incident until you intervened and made it that way. And I don't think this is going to work either. I think, I think he is flailing and I think that's why he's doing all of these things. Right. Like Epstein is still front of mind of everybody and he is just like, I'm going to distract this way, I'm going to distract that way. And I think the scariest part though is that it like people could get hurt. And I think that that is, you know, people got hurt. Like let's, you know, we talked about this, but like the CDC shooting the other day, which was born out of misinformation about science and vaccines, in particular that that person said that he got vaccine injured, which the likelihood of that is almost zero. But he was told that. And I think that's where like Donald Trump is the most dangerous, is that he is feeding people lies about everything. Our cities are crime ridden cesspools. You know, these vaccines. Well, he hasn't said it directly but like you know, is hhh.

[Luke]

He's willing to let it be adjacent to him though.

[Tim]

He's not going to say no, right? No. And he cut half a billion dollars of research into MRNA vaccines, which are the ones that were used for the first time ever on the COVID vaccine, but have shown, and they worked incredibly well and they've shown promise in curing cancer and aids. And they just said no, we're not doing that because we are sending a signal to our base that vaccines are bad. And we know we don't, we don't believe it in our heads, I don't think they do. But like we're going to use this as a political wedge because we don't have much else left.

[Luke]

Sounds about right.

[Tim]

Sorry, sorry. No, I'm a little, I'm a little ranty today.

[Luke]

Stealing my thing.

[Tim]

I know. Maybe I should do the get this week.

[Luke]

Can't seem to realize that. Yeah, if you don't want a vaccine, don't get one. But people that just should have them don't. You shouldn't be able to take them away.

[Zach]

Yeah, no, I mean, yeah, I, I, something that's happened over the last, I don't know, I mean really, the last 10 years that we've been like microdosing on misery to be inoculated from misery. I think some people call it dissociating. But you look at how far the left has come just since Trump took office and you look at all of these attacks on everything everywhere all at once, you know, you can say, well, yeah, and, and, and like a movie, we're watching it happen. But in real life, you know, bad things are happening to people. But we've kind of gotten through some of that, that to where instead of just being paralyzed with fear, like, well, we, we can't let any bad thing happen to anybody ever. Which would be, I mean, I guess, great, arguably great bad things still do happen and they are still happening because of what he's doing. And we have to just like that that's going to be true whether, whether it's Acceptable or whether we find it appropriate or whether, like, it doesn't matter what we call it. He is doing bad things, and he's doing bad things through the cdc, through the military. Like, he's just doing bad things everywhere. And we actually have a role in fighting that. And I think there was a period of time where, I mean, certainly from, like, November to January, we were all, like, we knew it was coming, but we. We still knew Biden was president. And so it was still a little bit different. It was real dark, you know, for what, January, February, March. I remember when Doge was doing all of this shit and, like, people were just sending us messages that, I don't know how we're going to do this. You know, everybody was paralyzed. Gavin Newsom comes out fighting. Pritzker comes out fighting. The Texas Democrats come out fight. You know, the military parade, the Los Angeles protests. Like, Doge is shut down. I mean, they just. They're hiring back people at nws. Like, he will never admit defeat, and yet he is getting defeated everywhere, constantly, all of the time in the process. Bad things are happening. And so, like, people. People will say, like, don't be so optimistic. You know, Bad things are happening. Yes, bad things are happening. Odds are the vast majority of us will make it through this one way or the other. Like, just like Covid 2020, a lot of people lost their lives, and it was because of Trump and because of a lot of reasons. And yet, like, we're all here. The people who are here are here. The people who lost family members, they have, you know, come through it. Like, we have to. We have to be tough, and we have to be tougher than I think any of us wanted to have to be coming, you know, going through the next four years. But I think we've got. We've started to get there, and. And I'm seeing more people who are not ignoring, like, the costs and the pain, but they are. They're pushing through it and they're focusing on the long. Like, yes, okay, bad things are going to happen, but let's stay focused on the bigger picture. Let's stay focused on the midterms of 2028, and let's start making lists of all of the things that we are going to commit to doing. We're going to get these when the time comes. Yeah.

[Luke]

My biggest fear is that, that we come through this and then we just go, okay, and we win in 28. And we just go, okay.

[Zach]

That's that business as usual.

[Luke]

We tried that once. It's time. These have to have consequences.

[Tim]

Well, I think, you know, as we get closer, I think there's, it's going to be a, it's a barometer for folks of whether they'll be successful or not, if they are going to hold people accountable who have ruined countless lives. And I don't think that anybody who is not willing to do that is going to get support within a democratic process. I just don't see it. And I think that, you know, and you deserve it.

[Luke]

You deserve it is the thing.

[Tim]

No, I, and I think that, you know, the, the candidate that ends up winning is going to have to have some sort of Marshall Plan for the United States, which, for those who don't know, there was this. After Europe got completely decimated, tens of millions of people lost their lives. You know, the U.S. helped rebuild. And look at Europe now. It's in, you know, relatively great shape. We're going to need that for the United States because they are destroying a lot of things. And I don't mean going back to what we had before and restoring what we had before. I'm talking about a new vis in which government actually works and is nimble and efficient and responsive to people in 2028 and beyond. And I think somebody who is able to put that together is. And also holding people accountable is going to be very successful in the primary. And I think people are just like, let's just, let's just reverse. Everything Trump did is not the answer.

[Zach]

No.

[Luke]

You run on promising two things. You say, we're going to get every one of those pricks that ruined your lives and hurt so many people, and you say, we're going to fix everything and this is what we're doing to move forward Board. We're not doing this. We're gonna just fix it and then go back to status quo.

[Zach]

No, I think the harm reduction approach failed. It. It got us through 2017-2021 because Trump was such an incompetent leader. He didn't know how to do bad things. Like, he tried. He wanted to do bad things, but he couldn't figure it out. And he still was surrounding himself with, you know, enough insiders who were like, hey, hey, like, low key. Don't do the bad thing. Don't do that. They talked him out of it. Now he's completely unhinged, but, and, and untethered. But that still doesn't mean he has unlimited power. Like, we, we still can do things. And if we, if we, when we take the midterms, I think it'll, I won't be surprised if it's a 30 to 50 seat swing. Like, that would be like a historically accurate massive swing. They're going to gerrymander five seats in Texas. Like, we can do that everywhere. Like, it's going to be a wash and it's just going to angrier. And they still have to go win those votes. Like, they're counting on Hispanics staying with Trump in the midterms. I'm like, dude, you, you have no idea what kind of buzzsaw you're walking into in the midterm elections. You look at, he's losing independent voters 65, 25, 65, 30 right now. You, you don't win anything anywhere when you're losing. Like, he won independent voters. Like, or maybe Kamala won him by a point or two, but it was very, very, very close. And now he's 20, 30 points underwater, 40 points underwater with independent voters. Like, he, he's not going to get to a better place. And in, in fact, it's just going to get worse.

[Luke]

The more worse, the more he ruins.

[Zach]

People'S lives, the worse it's going to get.

[Tim]

And his young, the polling among young men, he's cratered. I mean, I think he won like 60% of young men. He's down in the 40s now.

[Luke]

Like, oh, I'm going to vote for Trump and then I'm going to buy a big truck. I'm going to build a really cool gaming computer. I'm going to live a off steak and eggs. And then they went, oh, none of that works.

[Zach]

And up like 20% from last year.

[Luke]

My age that I've watched like before the election, it's like, oh, yeah, you want to, you want to get big in the gym and you want to drive a nice truck and you want to have something to do when you get home from work. You, none of that's going to happen. You're going to have a real shitty life.

[Zach]

Usually what happens with those people is then they turn 28 and they like, they hurt their ankle and then they're like, hey, government, I can't work right now. And then they go, oh, suddenly I'm not a libertarian anymore.

[Luke]

Yeah, you know what they say about libertarians, right? They're just liberals who haven't read enough books.

[Tim]

It does fall apart when you pull on that thread a little bit. As soon as you look at it, just a little bit.

[Zach]

And it will. There was a, I mean, Biden was this ancient insider guy. You know, Kamala was his vp. Like, there was a very strong I'm going to stick it to the, to the old people thing. Like, that's, I mean, that's what young voters always do. Like, young voters, like, we need very, very badly need to not overread into this. Like, the media trying to say, like, well, Hispanic voters and black voters and young voters are all lost to Trump forever. I'm like, dude, Trump is not going to be on the ballot again, for one. You think J.D. vance on the ballot is going to pull 20% of black men? Like, come on.

[Tim]

Well, I mean, how many, how many stories do we see of, like, people in these, like, red rural communities becoming outraged that somebody that they know is being deported by ice? Like, these stories are everywhere. And I think that, you know, I don't think we're going to peel them all off, but we only need to peel off a few percentage points of them. And there's so many people.

[Luke]

Just make them not vote.

[Zach]

A lot of them are going to just stay home. They're going to go.

[Luke]

For a Democrat. But I don't want that thing. The other thing.

[Zach]

I like Trump, but Vance can't do it. And, you know, there's nobody else. And they'll just sit it out. They'll sit it out.

[Tim]

I mean, but I think that, I think some of the Latino community in particular, though, I think they will swing because I think they thought that he was.

[Zach]

I'm just talking about young men there.

[Tim]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But the, the Latinos, I think, and, and, and black men, too, because, you know, I think they're seeing, like, you know, Trump's. Trump's solution to everything is overp policing and deporting immigrants. And all of these things like that are just like, in local communities, when you put a name associated to somebody that's affected by it, all of a sudden becomes very real. And I think a lot of Trump voters live in a world, world where they don't think. I'm not sure that they know these things are real or that they won't affect them. So they don't care until it affects them, until it sudden.

[Luke]

That's how it always is, selfishness with them, every goddamn time until it eats their face.

[Tim]

So. All right, we're at about 45 minutes, Luke. We promised a get segment, but I feel like we did. Oh, you got another one?

[Luke]

I've got one.

[Zach]

Okay. There's enough to go around. I think most days.

[Luke]

There's always enough. This is one I've hit. I hit it the other day, but tick tock said, now we're not gonna Let that one go. It goes out to us. Very, very horrible, horrible person. Her name is J.K. rowling. If you missed it. I mean it happens all the time. Basically the only thing she uses her social media for is to attract trans folks. She has no interest in, you know, promoting love or like she calls herself a feminist, but does she use any of her money to help women?

[Tim]

No.

[Luke]

The only thing she uses it for is to attend attack trans people. And as a result, I hate her. She is quite possibly one of the worst people on the planet. But specifically the other day she made a post where she said that if you have egg quote egg producing equipment, faulty or not, you're a woman. It's a really stupid thing to say for a lot of reasons. One, you can have egg producing equipment and have XY chromosomes. So that doesn't make any sense.

[Tim]

Sense.

[Luke]

You can have XX chromosomes and not have parts that match. There's people with XXY chromosomes. There's a whole deal. And before you tell me that you don't know anybody like that. If you've ever met a redhead, it's the same probability. So don't tell me about that. But also it's really shitty to people who've gone through hell, that is infertility that suck about faulty equipment. You're a nasty person. And get J.K. rowling. All right, that's my, that's my spiel. Nasty person, horrible person.

[Tim]

Has, has anyone gone from so beloved to so despised in such a fast way?

[Luke]

I, I've never understood the love because her books are nostalgic for people and I, I recognize the nostalgia. But from an objective point of view, there are a lot of problems. Calling a black person Kingsley Shackle Bolt, whose only job is to blow up is a really, really bad look, look.

[Tim]

To put. I didn't even know that.

[Luke]

To put all of the, the people who handle the money in the wizarding universe are short people with balding and then like hook noses.

[Zach]

Noses.

[Luke]

Very bad. The fact that the one of the only Asian people in the book is named Cho Chang Bad.

[Tim]

Right, right.

[Luke]

It's horrible.

[Tim]

It's horrible.

[Luke]

And like so from an objective point of view, books are trash. And if you want to read something better, go read the Scholomance books by Naomi Novik 10 times better. And it doesn't racism.

[Tim]

Well, all right.

[Luke]

I, I, every time I talk about her, I get raged.

[Tim]

She, she's. But like she's an awful person.

[Luke]

She's an awful, awful person and she.

[Tim]

Wants to be cruel, right? Like she, you can Tell she likes it. And well, she talks about the fact.

[Luke]

So there's the new Harry Potter show that's coming out. That they're like announcing the castings. I see all these people getting really happy for it because they're like, oh, my nostalgia. But like, she already promised that her cut of the profits from that show is going directly to doing what her money has been doing, which is influencing anti trans legisl written, which is horrible.

[Tim]

Like, imagine that's your issue, right?

[Luke]

Imagine that's your issue that you, you know, you're a billionaire and your goal is, yeah, I'm gonna ruin the lives of people who've never hurt me. Garbage. Express elevator to hell going down.

[Zach]

Yeah, it's really tough because the millennial generation loves Harry Potter.

[Tim]

So like, I look at this and.

[Luke]

It'S like, oh, how can you live? Like, like you've got a Harry Potter tattoo. Oh, I would want that lasered off immediately. Expeditiously.

[Tim]

I, I think for most. Yes. I mean, I think for. I've never read them and I've seen half a movie on a plane. So like, I, I don't know this community very well, but I, I can say that I remember when those came out, there wasn't any inkling that she was.

[Luke]

No, no, no, no.

[Tim]

Right.

[Zach]

That's why there wasn't at all.

[Luke]

Never. I'll never get a tattoo about a, From a book series or a movie series that's still going on until the people are dead and have bed dead like 15 years. Years. Because it's the same thing with Neil Gaiman. That dude's a sexual abuser. And it's like, oh, I really liked American Gods, though. I mean, it's really bad. And like, the thing about him being dead is that when you say you separate the art from artist, at least then the artist isn't profiting off your off like your support. Which is the difference. Always the difference.

[Zach]

Yeah, I mean, I think the, the moral is that it's just like power money.

[Luke]

So not to promote piracy, but if you want to watch that show, sail the high seas for it, it's pretty easy. Easy.

[Tim]

But power money at the library.

[Luke]

Get the books at the library. Exactly.

[Zach]

Power money. They corrupt people, you know, they. They corrupt people if. If given enough time. And I, I doubt J.K. rowling started out with any intent to do the things that she's doing. And yet maybe a trans woman stole her man. Right? Or trans man stoler. Stoler woman.

[Luke]

Or.

[Zach]

I'm sure. But the. She found herself with too much Time and too much money. Money on her hands.

[Luke]

Creativity.

[Zach]

And. And she. And she thought, what am I gonna do with all of this power? It must be because everything I touch is perfect and every opinion I have is correct. And this is why we need term limits. Right.

[Luke]

I can promise you I wouldn't start attacking trans people.

[Zach]

Same.

[Tim]

Yeah, because you're not a bad person.

[Luke]

Yeah.

[Tim]

Okay.

[Luke]

I think she's been a bad person the whole time. She just didn't have the money to do it.

[Tim]

Oh, I don't think.

[Zach]

Suss it out.

[Tim]

Yeah. I mean, I think she's like, oh.

[Luke]

Hi, I don't have any. There's no consequence for these bad opinions.

[Tim]

I mean, I think that's right. I mean, I put her and Rudy Giuliani kind of in the same boat where in 2001, for a brief moment, he was like America's mayor and everyone loved him. And now he is debarred and, like, was in like a bora movie trying to, like, remove his pants with someone he thought was, like, underage or whatever. And like, all this. So, like, he's fallen quite far too. Also, the only person, only person that Joe Biden has ever dragged in real time was Rudy Giuliani, which is still one of my favorite clips from. I think it was 2008 primaries when he said, oh, all Rudy's Giuliani says is a verb, a noun in 911, which is still one of the most devastating.

[Luke]

It is so good.

[Tim]

It is so good.

[Zach]

Joe Biden was. He was the. He was the master of sick burns in the old days, man. When he, when he was. Was sharp, he was. Oh, yeah, you did not want to catch an elbow from Joe Biden. Yeah.

[Tim]

Oh, it's a Great. It's on YouTube. You can check it out. Yeah, I watch it every once in a while because it's like, just incredible.

[Zach]

But it was a true mic drop moment in the middle of a debate. And Joe Biden had said very little in the debate, but like, when he says, when he said things, they mattered. And you knew when he was, when, when he was going to chip in, it was going to be something a little bit sarcastic, a little bit old man, you know, like, he had that Scranton, that blue collar tough in him. And yeah, he, he looked leveled. I mean, he ended Rudy Giuliani's primary. Like, he, he ended his candidacy with that line because it was, with that. It was like a month of repeat on every cable news network.

[Tim]

Also, like, Biden basically made it okay for everybody else to say the same thing. Because they were all thinking it and so. Because, I mean, Rudy's always been terrible, but there was that moment where nobody really knew that.

[Zach]

And he took 911 away from him. Yeah.

[Tim]

Yeah.

[Zach]

As his claim as the. As America's president. He just ripped it out of his hands in. In 10 words or something.

[Tim]

And then what did. The 90s crime rates were some of the worst in New York City. And he was. Oversaw all that, so. Well, anyways, I think we've made it to the end. Gu. We did it. But three.

[Zach]

If we just keep yapping, we find our way. Y. Yeah.

[Tim]

I will say we did try attempt a. An episode while we were in New Orleans. And we both. We all watched it real bad.

[Luke]

Alcohol involved. And yeah, we. It. It did include my first taste of bourbon floor varnish. Don't want to drink that again.

[Zach]

I'll teach you. I wasn't there. I got. I'll teach you how to drink bourbon correctly.

[Luke]

I don't want to drink it.

[Zach]

I promise.

[Tim]

You'll get there. You'll get there. But I also. I have trouble sleeping, so I'd also taken my sleep aids on top of the bourbon. So by the end, me, I had lost complete control of the show. And I was just like, we're just going off. Yeah. A halt.

[Zach]

Where is this recorded? And how do we let paid subscribers get access? Paid subscribers are going to want to see that. I think like, this is. That's a. That's a. That's a true paywall type of content.

[Tim]

Require some editing.

[Luke]

Yes.

[Tim]

So we will have to see. But we. We had a very hard time getting started every time I did the hey, everybody. Which now it's just like.

[Luke]

And I just started cackling.

[Tim]

Yeah. Yeah. And then at the end, I sort of like tried to wrap it up, but I was like, so out. I was like well past my expiration date at that point. With the medicine I had in me.

[Luke]

And his best body was gone.

[Tim]

Oh, I was. I was done. So we'll see. We'll see if people listen this longer than ask for it afterwards. Maybe we'll find a way to release it someday. But the other thing that I think would be much better is if everyone just becomes a paid subscriber just to support the show.

[Luke]

I do like that idea.

[Tim]

Yeah. Which you can do atfindout podcast substack.com. like we said, we don't have anything behind a paywall. I think we would love, love to not have everything by behind a paywall, but we also have to pay our bills as well. So if you could do that. We also have merch. We are very, very close to releasing some new merch, but the existing stuff's up [e-mail] and you can support us there, too. So, guys, we made it.

[Luke]

Thank you.

[Tim]

Thank you, everybody for listening. We got, I think three or four Luke get episodes. A lot, a lot of lot of rants today. So thanks. And we are back to our regular scheduled time. So we'll see you tomorrow morning, Tuesday when you read this or listen to this. Then we will be back on Thursday. So have a great day, guys. We'll talk soon.

[Luke]

Later.