Podcast Summary: The Find Out Podcast – Episode 10: "Why Democrats Keep Beating Themselves (And How They Can Stop)"
Release Date: May 20, 2025
Host: Find Out Podcast
Description: An honest, irreverent, and often hilarious discussion about America during Trump’s second term. A team of left-wing content creators tackles MAGA absurdities while helping listeners separate the signal from the noise. No echo chambers, no bullshit—just real talk.
1. Introduction and Announcements [00:00 – 01:51]
Tim opens the episode with enthusiasm for reaching double digits in episodes, acknowledging the typical podcast lifespan but celebrating their success beyond the usual three episodes. He mentions the temporary absence of Chris due to his impending fatherhood and announces an increase in their publishing schedule to twice a week—Tuesdays and Thursdays—responding to listener demand for more content.
Notable Announcement:
"For the first Thursday show, we will have Congressman Pat Ryan, Democrat from upstate New York, who will be on talking with us about the horrible tax bill that is being written currently in the House."
(00:45) — Tim
2. Supreme Court Hearing on Trump Case [01:51 – 11:03]
The team delves into the Supreme Court's hearing of the Trump administration's case to end birthright citizenship. Zach clarifies that it's a federal nationwide injunction hearing prompted by an executive order, not a direct birthright citizenship case. He draws parallels to past cases like the expansion of DACA and trans rights bills being blocked by conservative judges in Texas, highlighting the double-edged nature of nationwide injunctions.
Key Insights:
- Luke expresses skepticism about nationwide injunctions, questioning their impact and fairness.
- Tim contemplates the balance between judicial checks on presidential power and bureaucratic slowdowns, expressing discomfort with the potential overreach of individual judges.
- Zach predicts the Supreme Court may dismiss the case, viewing it as too complex and likely to result in a "disaster" if fully litigated.
Notable Quotes:
"They're unelected activist judges. They're not politics."
(10:05) — Zach
"I just don't see John Roberts going along with this. He is a very, very smart guy."
(09:14) — Tim
3. Main Topic: Why Democrats Keep Beating Themselves [11:03 – 50:12]
a. Biden's Health and Campaign Issues [11:03 – 19:18]
The discussion pivots to the core topic: internal conflicts within the Democratic Party and strategies for winning back voters. Zach critiques President Joe Biden's health and management, citing publicized instances where Biden exhibited cognitive lapses, leading to concerns about his suitability for office.
Notable Quotes:
"All Americans could see that Gaza was effectively bulldozed. And we didn't say really anything about it. Biden really didn't say anything about it."
(38:37) — Tim
"If you are somebody who is just like, oh, I'm next in line for appropriations just because I've been. I've lived longer than everybody."
(24:04) — Tim
b. Internal Party Politics and Seniority [19:18 – 26:12]
Chris and Tim discuss the Democratic Party's reliance on seniority, which they argue hinders the emergence of fresh, progressive leaders. The election of David Hogg as a vice-chair is highlighted as a controversial move, sparking debate over his aggressive primary challenges against incumbents in safe districts.
Notable Quotes:
"Purity ruins politics and it ruins political parties, especially when you are up against a purity machine with MAGA."
(29:30) — Zach
"The party is furious with him. And for those who don't know, the DNC generally stays out of primaries and they support the Democrat that is nominated to win. So this is very outside the lane for them."
(26:20) — Tim
c. David Hogg's Role and Primary Challenges [26:12 – 34:25]
Tim, Luke, and Zach delve deeper into David Hogg's influence within the DNC, discussing his push for primary challenges against long-standing Democratic incumbents. They debate whether this strategy effectively weeds out complacent politicians or merely sows discord within the party.
Notable Quotes:
"The concepts of a line at least. But yeah, so, and they're saying it might even be June or July before they announce the ruling on this."
(08:00) — Zach
"We have to have a big tent party and let's actually showcase and I hate that expression, but we have to actually, Tim, to your point, showcase what happens when people actually have to win arguments and actually have to compete for the power and authority that they have."
(30:31) — Zach
d. Fundraising and Messaging Problems [34:25 – 50:12]
The team critiques the Democratic Party's reliance on traditional fundraising tactics, such as unsolicited emails and text messages, which Brian Tyler Cohen also opposes. Tim reflects on his experience with the Obama campaign, emphasizing the ineffectiveness of current strategies that prioritize fundraising over genuine engagement and message refinement.
Notable Quotes:
"We have a brand problem and, like, constantly spamming people for this stuff isn't going to solve our problem. It's going to make it worse and turn more people off."
(43:45) — Tim
"They need to have their messaging combined. The first thing this guy comes out of the gate is just fight each other. Terrible idea."
(28:09) — Luke
4. Foreign Policy: Gaza Situation and Its Impact on Democrats [50:12 – 43:09]
The conversation shifts to the Gaza conflict, analyzing how the Democratic Party's handling (or mishandling) of the situation has alienated voters, particularly young and Muslim Americans. Tim criticizes the administration's response, highlighting President Biden's lackluster statements and actions, which contrasted sharply with the aggressive stance of Donald Trump.
Notable Quotes:
"But I also understand why, like, they watched their family members get wiped off the map and Joe Biden called them a bunch of terrorists."
(42:11) — Tim
"There's no doubt that Kamala Harris would be light years better for Palestinians than Donald Trump."
(42:11) — Tim
5. New Segment Introduction: "Get" with Luke [51:08 – 50:12]
In a lighter turn, the hosts introduce a new segment titled "Get," where Luke humorously invites supporters to oppose Trump by "getting" involved, linking it to their critique of Trump’s extravagant and symbolic expenditures. This segment blends humor with political commentary, maintaining the podcast’s irreverent tone.
Notable Interaction:
"Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the newest segment of the Find out podcast where Luke tells somebody every week to get."
(51:03) — Tim
6. Conclusion and Future Plans [54:32 – End]
Tim wraps up the episode by reiterating the shift to a twice-weekly release schedule and promoting their upcoming episodes and merchandise. The hosts express hope for the future of the podcast, aiming to reach 100 episodes while maintaining their candid and unfiltered discussions.
Notable Closing Remarks:
"We are going to two a week starting Thursday is going to be our first Thursday episode with Congressman Pat Ryan, the Democrat from New York. We're very excited to have him."
(54:28) — Tim
Key Takeaways:
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Internal Struggles: The Democratic Party is grappling with internal conflicts, particularly around leadership, seniority, and the emergence of new, progressive voices.
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Leadership Concerns: President Joe Biden's health and cognitive abilities are a point of contention, affecting voter confidence and party strategy.
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Fundraising vs. Engagement: Traditional fundraising methods may be alienating potential supporters, highlighting the need for more genuine engagement strategies.
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Impact of Foreign Policy: The party's handling of international issues, such as the Gaza conflict, has significant repercussions on voter perception and support.
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Call for Change: There's a strong sentiment among the hosts for the Democratic Party to embrace riskier, more progressive strategies to rejuvenate its base and appeal to younger voters.
Notable Final Quote:
"We have to have a big tent party and let's actually showcase... what we need to produce."
(30:31) — Zach
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