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Dana Perino
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Greg Gutfeld
Hello everyone, I'm Dana Perino along with Kennedy, Harold Ford Jr. Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. After conquering New York City, Democratic socialists are ready to march on the rest of America. Their next targets? Upcoming Democratic primaries in Michigan, Wisconsin and tomorrow even in Colorado all have progressive and DSA backed candidates trying to build on their momentum. New York City Mayor Zoram Mamdani is confident it is just the beginning.
Dana Perino
And what these candidates offer is a
Harold Ford Jr.
vision that extends beyond the midterms. It extends beyond 2028.
Jesse Waters
I think we are seeing a hunger that is not just felt by New Yorkers, but frankly by Americans from coast
Harold Ford Jr.
to coast for a new kind of
Jesse Waters
politics, one that puts working people at
Harold Ford Jr.
the heart of it.
Greg Gutfeld
But they might have their eyes on an even bigger prize. Politico reports that Democratic socialists are coming for 2028, quizzing members on which candidates they'd back for president. It could be good news for AOC if she wants to run. The New York congresswoman is trying to get on the DSA's good side by defending Darieliza Chevalier's string of controversial statements.
Kennedy
She attended a pro Palestinian rally in
Harold Ford Jr.
Times Square the day after the Hamas attacked Israel.
Kennedy
She deleted a Twitter account that had a number of posts that called for the abolishment of police in prisons. She has indicated that she has regret over the way that she made issued those statements. We have to give people the opportunity to occupy
Dana Perino
their beliefs within the gravity
Kennedy
of becoming a duly elected member of Congress.
Greg Gutfeld
This as rank and file Democrats make the case that the party is a big tent with enough room for democratic socialism.
Dana Perino
Democrats are not going to win by defending this version of capitalism. I want us to be a big tent party.
Harold Ford Jr.
We are a big tent party focused
Jesse Waters
on the ordinary concerns of everyday Americans.
Harold Ford Jr.
It's important that we welcome them as
Dana Perino
part of our caucus.
Harold Ford Jr.
We have to have a big tent.
Greg Gutfeld
Kennedy, I was watching your face during those clips and I said I gotta go to her first, see what's on her mind.
Kennedy
Yeah, Raphael Warnock Chris Murphy, go ahead and build the big tent. All these Democratic socialists want to do is burn it down with you inside. That's they're waiting for. They will primary you. They will find anyone who adheres to their toxic orthodoxy, and they will make sure they prop them up with all that George Soros money, all of those PACs from those big tech donors, and they will burn down your political careers. They don't care about you. They are using the Democratic establishment right now as a Trojan horse to infiltrate politics because they want to do the same thing with the American political system, the American financial system, the that they do with the Democrat Party, and that is to annihilate it. They do not want to be friends with you. They are just using you. I feel like I'm giving you a lecture the way I would one of my teenage daughters when she brings home a guy with a tattoo and eyeliner. Get away as fast as you possibly can. They are going to hurt you. They mean you harm. Absolutely. And you know, of course, they feel emboldened in a very blue progressive electorate where they won three layup primary contests for them. But they want to go for the middle of the country. They want to find purple states. They want to find places where independent voters have been very disgruntled. And they are hoping that those voters succumb to their message of communistic populism the way they did when Trump created a very unlikely coalition back in 2016, which also appealed to disaffected working class voters who were essentially discarded by the Republican establishment. They are using Trump's playbook and they are hoping that it works against, not Republicans, but Democrats. Purple state.
Greg Gutfeld
We're all fine books.
Kennedy
We're a purple state.
Greg Gutfeld
Harold, you have made the case for a long time that socialists are not Democrats. But, but the Democrats are saying, like Hakeem Jeffries is saying, no, come on in. The water is fine.
Dana Perino
Well, first, it's good to be back with everybody. The I think the Democrats are understanding that you win elections through addition, but they're having some difficulty reconciling this group who wants to abolish the police, abolish prisons, who believe that everything should be given away for free, who applaud those who urge violence or who have done violence to America. That's not the Democratic. In fact, that's not the American political system that I know. The thing that frustrates me about this group of political types, and I don't call them Democrats or socialists, is that I think they diagnose some of the challenge Right. We live at a time which capitalism is not working for everybody. We've lived in moments throughout the 20th century where capitalism has been worked for everyone. And we found ways in which the private sector and the public sector partner to make things better. The New Deal under. In the 1920s and the 1930s being one of the prime examples. But as I listen to Mayor Mandami, he talks a great game about what the challenge is, the new vision, and how we have to make room in the party for these people. But what are their ideas? What are the outcomes they're trying to achieve? I hear no ideas about how we're going to deal with AI and introduce new job opportunities to communities across the country. I hear no new ideas about education, something you talk about a lot, Dan, and things that we need to be doing differently in the country. I hear them talk not at all about health care in any serious way, not at all about tax cuts, because if you're going to offer tax cuts to people, people have to work. And I don't hear them advocating and urging that to the extent that they do. So that's why I find what I find disappointing about their message. I do find it that they have been able to capture the imagination and capture the attention of a lot of voters in the country. And the question will be, I think those voters, much like every voter has, when they get excited and they get encouraged to vote a certain way, are you going to make their lives better? And thus far, giving away everything for free, abolishing the police and not rooting for America, that's not a plan to make America safer and better for every American. And that's where I think they're.
Greg Gutfeld
They do want Medicare for all, Jesse, amongst other things. You have another term you use for them?
Jesse Waters
Communism. Yeah, just go right to it. So the Democrat Party's a machine, and the donors tell you what policy you have to do. The superdelegates choose the nominee, and then they all get talking points. That's why every day you hear big tent, Big Ten, Big Ten.
Harold Ford Jr.
All right?
Jesse Waters
They all say the same thing. But they've screwed up, and the country's now pissed. The party's pissed because what they do, they did nothing. They made life more expensive and just focused on Mexicans and Ukrainians, and that let the Communists creep in. And they've lied. And now we caught them with another lie. They have been denying they've been communists for decades. No, we're not Communists. We love America. We're for strong borders. We love the police. All of a Sudden the communists start winning and they're like, big Ten, come on in. They don't believe in anything except power. What did we hear after Kamala lost? The Democrats need to define who they are. Right. You can't just be anti Trump. What do Democrats stand for? And we covered this whole process. We covered it for a year and a half, Dana. They were going to have to start going to football games. They were going to stop talking about trans. You know, they were going to fund the police, not defund the police.
Greg Gutfeld
They had to farm for oysters.
Jesse Waters
That's right. We're working class. And now the commies start winning and they're like, viva la revolucion. That was fast. All of a sudd. So they actually, the Democrats have more in common with communism than the Republicans have in common with fascism. And they think they can cobble some winning coalition together. Kennedy is exactly right. The communists are going to steal the Democrat banner to get on the ballot. They're going to win. They're in a caucus with them when it works. And then here comes the purge. And the purge is gonna be ugly. And the establishment is going to get purged. So you're gonna have money versus passion. And that's a fight they have to have, but that's a fight they can't afford because they are dead broke.
Greg Gutfeld
Speaking of revolution.
Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah.
Greg Gutfeld
In South America, these countries are voting one after the next to bring back a more capitalistic type of government rather than the left leaning ones that they've been having.
Harold Ford Jr.
And isn't that interesting? After you get rid of usaid, all of a sudden these countries are going right wing as opposed to left wing. That's interesting to me. Harold hit on a really good point, which is that socialists, they don't have ideas or a system. They state their goals as the system or the idea. So they go equality, equity, fairness. But they don't tell you what it is because if they did, you would go, holy crap. That's force, that's coercion. We keep hearing that capitalism isn't working, and I keep wondering for whom. It's an imperfect system, but it's the only system we have. Can I quote a philosopher, Dana, from the early 1990s, please? All right, Dana, Dana, no one told you that life was gonna be this way. Your job's a joke, you're broke, your love life's DNA, DOA and DNA. It's like you're always stuck in second gear when it hasn't been your day, your month, or your year. My point being that Today is the manifestation of every generation. Those were 30 year olds in 1994 saying that their life sucked. But you know what they didn't do? They didn't try to take your stuff. They didn't become communists or socialists. They got out of it. Because we all go through this. Believe it or not, I was once not successful. Socialism distorts a really great idea. You know, when you look at somebody who's successful, it's normal to say, I want what they have. It's an aspirational thing. So you try to figure out what they're doing, you ask them, and then you copy it. You emulate them. They mentor you with socialism. They say, I want what you have when they see you. But that's all they say, I want what you have. They're not inspired. They're only envious and angry. Which means even if people left the cities and formed their own red oasis, their own red cities, and without the madness that cripples achievement, they're gonna see that and they're gonna say, I want that too. So you may not. You cannot end this because it's part of human nature. We all can be lazy and we could all want something for nothing, but we reject that. Communism says, no, you can do that. It goes back to the thing, I think I said this last week, that it's a mistake to give them the aura of radicalism because it makes them look cool. Calling them a communist is like calling me a sex symbol. I'll take it. The strategy is to not call them radical, but call them boring. Conformity. Their ideas are 100 years old. Their beliefs have been done and failed. There's nothing new there. And I think you have to say, I'm bored by this. And that's where you go back to Harold's Point. It's like, how would you do this? What's your new way of doing it? And you're right about the big tent thing. How can you welcome people into a tent that are against assimilation? These are people that reject cultural, gender, civil behavior, any kind of assimilation, the melting pot. They reject that. How can you go, come on into my tent, Great, but we're gonna, as you say, burn your tent down. They don't know how to do it because they've alienated all of us, the Democrats, with their we have the path of common sense. They refuse to join us on it. So who are they gonna rely on now? Where are their friends? They've alienated all of them.
Jesse Waters
Where are their friends? Way to bring it home.
Greg Gutfeld
And one of their new members. She was in College for 12 years.
Harold Ford Jr.
I know. Exactly. And she beat somebody that actually had
Greg Gutfeld
some experience and who came as an illegal immigrant and assimilated and became a citizen.
Harold Ford Jr.
It doesn't matter.
Greg Gutfeld
It's an outrage, I tell you. Okay, coming up, left's latest complaint is President Trump is making America 250 impossible for them to celebrate.
Dana Perino
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Kennedy
Well, it looks like the liberals can't take even a day off from their TDS to celebrate America's beautiful 250th anniversary. Democratic Arizona Senator Mark Kelly is blaming President Trump for the left's lack of enthusiasm for Uncle Sam's big birthday. And Joy Behar, forget about it. She can't find any joy because all she sees is orange watch.
Greg Gutfeld
I have to say that I'm embarrassed for this country. The way he's been treating immigrants. Yeah, he's been separating kids from their
Kennedy
families in that way.
Greg Gutfeld
We should all be.
Dana Perino
We have a president that looks for looks at every opportunity, not as an opportunity to bring the country together, but to further divide us. And even this 250th celebration, this is really an opportunity to think about like the history of our country and all the great things we've done, all the innovation. But what's going to happen on July 4th?
Jesse Waters
Yeah, we're going to have a rally.
Kennedy
I always wonder what happened to sloth from Goonies. And those two aren't the only 250 party poopers. At least nine Democrat led states are opting out of President Trump's Great American State, declining to operate official state pavilions. Pennsylvania was on the snub list until Senators John Fetterman and Dave McCormick stepped in to organize Pennsylvania's presence, sidestepping Governor Josh Shapiro, who said state officials could not find a business to sponsor the booth. Harold, this is such nonsense. You know, Joy Behar saying we should all be embarrassed to be an American. I know you don't share that point of view, but why is it so hard for some of your fellow Democrats to be even slightly patriotic right now?
Dana Perino
I think a lot of Democrats are incredibly patriotic. I'm one of them. I do think Mark Kelly, I think the point he was making is a little more nuanced about whether or not we find ourselves being brought together if the language is unifying enough at the top of all of our politics, Republican and Democratic politics, the top president, Democrats alike. I'm proud to be an American, not because I view it narrowly as the Americans that are running the country today. It's the experiment that I celebrate. It's the experiment that's allowed me to, and my family to have the setbacks, the triumphs, the joys of being an American. And in fact, I can't think of any other place in the world I'd want to live. You don't see people beating down walls, trying to get into China. They're trying to get here because they know the opportunity is here now. What we have to continue to strive to make it better. And that's where I wish those who are not as optimistic, and there are many reasons not to be optimistic today, but those who are not as optimistic as many would like to be and patriotic as people want to be, think of the country. Think of what the country has gone through. Don't think of the individuals. Don't personalize this. Whether you like President Trump or you don't like Democrats, we are the greatest country in the world because we can all sit around and in our best days, try to make the country better by being unified or fighting with one another and still being able to call ourselves American and still being able to cling to the great things that this country strives, strives to be.
Kennedy
So, Jesse, if Kamala Harris were president right now, I would still be on my balcony singing the national anthem to The Whitney Houston 1991 Super bowl version, which is the best of all time. Maybe slightly inebriated, of course, just drunk on the joy of seeing this incredible anniversary. If Kamala Harris were president, I would be again screaming my head off for the US Men's national team. They're going to play on Wednesday and the round of 32. I hope they win. Is it because President Trump is lording over a couple of massive milestones? Is that what really burns their back?
Jesse Waters
Yeah, probably. I mean, if comma were a president, we're still better than Canada. I mean, and Harold's right. We're the envy of the world. They want our wealth, our military, our sexy cable news hosts.
Greg Gutfeld
Thank you.
Jesse Waters
Our air conditioning, apparently.
Kennedy
Yes.
Jesse Waters
Mark Kelly is going to be senator longer than Donald Trump as president. Joy Behar has been on the view for, like, 17 presidencies. Have a little patience. Okay? He's gone in three years, maybe. But you can't. You can't have your patriotism ebb and flow depending on who's on the White House.
Harold Ford Jr.
It's fine.
Jesse Waters
Biden was president. I was still almost getting arrested for shooting off fireworks. The phony thing about Democrats is that they say they're mad that Trump's treating illegals the way he is. They weren't proud of the way Biden was treating illegals. They were trying to hide that they were flying Amir at midnight. They didn't send reporters to the border. They did it all undercover. They lost 300,000 kids. Did they look for them? No. They are radically trying to fundamentally Barack Obama, quote, unquote, transform America by putting new people in it, by trying to arrest the president, by telling us what kind of cars to drive, what we can say, what we can't say, putting a cap on our net worth. If I want to be a trillionaire, damn right I'll be a trillionaire. Don't try to stop me. And so at the end of the day, they're mad at Trump and America for saying, no, you can't change America. America's not succumbing to all of their seditious schemes.
Greg Gutfeld
They.
Jesse Waters
That's why they're unhappy, and they're trying to make everybody else just as unhappy as they are.
Kennedy
Yeah, but I was shocked at the states who didn't want to participate in this Incredible Fair honoring 250. Illinois, Connecticut, Maine, Massachusetts, North Carolina.
Dana Perino
Come on.
Kennedy
I thought you guys were rational. That's where NASCAR is. Oregon, Washington, bunch of colonies.
Greg Gutfeld
Interesting. Several of those were of the 13 original colonies.
Kennedy
And a great point.
Greg Gutfeld
I was thinking Back to when 17. Sorry, when 1976 came around. I was only 4. But some of my earliest memories are from my dad trying to explain to us, like, how, like, what a big deal it was. And we had. We flew the flag every day. We went to Mount Rushmore for fireworks. And if you found One of those 1976 quarters, it was a big deal. And it was exciting. It was wonderful. Do you think my dad thought that Jimmy Carter was a great president in 1976?
Kennedy
Jimmy Carter didn't think that.
Greg Gutfeld
Nobody thought that. And so if you just fast forward only just that many years, and we're at this point where those governors of those states, like Josh Shapiro, wants to run for president or says he does, and he's been a fairly reasonable and great executive, and you can't find a business in Pennsylvania, like, stop. Don't lie to us if you don't want to Participate, just say so. But lying that you couldn't find a business to participate is ridiculous. So McCormick and Fetterman joined forces with a lot of other small business people. Citizens of Pennsylvania. This is where the Declaration of Independence was signed. This is where the Liberty Bell is. You want to talk about the Civil War?
Kennedy
Gettysburg.
Greg Gutfeld
The Gettysburg Address. It's written in the thing. So I think it's a bummer that people don't want to go. But also, it's mostly like, think about the children. My memories from that time at a fairly early age set a course for me that gave me the love of country, that has helped me fulfill the pursuit of happiness isn't guaranteed, but the pursuit of happiness, that was able to lift me up. And I think it's a bummer that they want to tell their children that it's not a great country. That's a terrible way to raise kids.
Kennedy
Amen, Greg. You're raising a child.
Harold Ford Jr.
That is true. It's like raising a village. It's strange. It has to be strange for these critics to see all these World cup soccer fans.
Kennedy
Yeah.
Harold Ford Jr.
Proudly displaying their flags wherever they go. Are they out scolding them for their nationalism? You know, they probably aren't. Ilhan Omar was at some party celebrating Somali Independence Day in Minnesota. She was waving flags patriotic for a country that she escaped. And at least her husband and brother were there as one invite. But there's a fallacy that if Trump weren't president, they'd be singing a different tune like they'd be. They'd have their hand across their heart for the anthem. And no, if it were a different Republican, it would be the same response. That person would be a symbol of the people they don't like because that's how Trump is to them. If Kamala had won, her idea of America would, of course, always. We'd always be told is deeply flawed, perhaps, but not quite a stain on the world. And every 4th of July she's president would be a public confessional of our misdeeds. But, of course, vowing to do better because we're just not good enough. But America is as good as it gets. I think the Dems are. The Dems don't see the damage identity politics did to their own ability to love their country because they have to reject what the country is, because a melting pot is against what they're rejecting. The idea that people can assimilate. It's not that we can't get along. It's that we shouldn't get along that makes it impossible for them to embrace the American dream and the American experiment, which is the melting pot. So there's. As you get older, you're going to find out that self identity is a false identity. It says nothing about what you do or who you really are. We have a lot of people that need to be taught that a lesson. I mean, it's like, okay, you're black, Hispanic, Jewish, gay, fat, dyslexic.
Kennedy
Would it hurt me sitting right here,
Harold Ford Jr.
Greg, but would it hurt you just one day to put your intersectional, intersectional awareness away and be an American? Just one day. Can you do that? If you can't, something wrong with you, kid.
Kennedy
And there is something wrong indeed.
Dana Perino
I know a lot of Democrats and my Democratic friends, we're celebrating.
Kennedy
Absolutely right. There are Democrat patriots. We have to remember that a lot.
Dana Perino
In the middle military there are, but there are a lot of. Mike, you're talking right about the ones that we're talking about on air here.
Harold Ford Jr.
Thank you, Harold.
Kennedy
They deserve a tongue flogging. Up next.
Harold Ford Jr.
Oh, I wish.
Kennedy
Not radical enough for the Democratic Party. Pro trans California State Senator Scott Wiener takes a pounding from pro Hamas lunatics.
Greg Gutfeld
That's next.
Jesse Waters
The Democrats are eating their own. The gay Jewish, pro trans lawmaker running to replace Nancy Pelosi. California State Senator Scott Weiner got cursed out and chased from a trans rights event because he doesn't hate Israel enough. Watch. And I think your policy on the genocide in Gaza is terrible. I think you belong here, do not belong here. You do not believe anymore. It's wonderful for trans people. And you've been terrible. And you've been terrible. You've been terrible.
Dana Perino
You've been terrible at Gaza.
Jesse Waters
Well, this isn't a great guy, this Wiener guy, Greg. And I kind of feel bad for him, but I don't want to.
Harold Ford Jr.
Don't. Okay, let's just run through what he believes. He's pro trans surgery for kids, right? Which is evil. He thinks knowingly passing HIV to a person is not a crime. He thinks it's unfair to put certain sex offenders on the list because it tips people off in hiring and renting situations, which is the point. He believes that criminals basically should have less information. You feel sympathy for him. And then you remember what he said after Charlie Kirk was murdered? He described Kirk as some reprehensible bigot. So he just fed into the grotesque spectacle of cheering a friendly, open conservative's death. Charlie was actually doing what this guy wished he could do. He was having debates and all he was asking for was peace. And he got killed. And so it's hard, but it does illustrate the difference between the left and the right. We on the right have limits to our demands. No matter how much on the left you embrace their battery of bat poop crazy ideas, there's always another that you fail to acknowledge. So now you have Jew hate as another box to tick on the lgbtq. Maybe you should add as for anti Semitic. Or as the guy said, you can't be gay and like Jews at the same time because they have no limits to their grievance. Naming anything you believe is decent, they can say is oppressive. If you don't want a homeless guy defecating on your porch, somehow you are being oppressive to that person. The oppressed right to poop on your porch. It's the tyranny of the minority. And this is what happens. Ultimately, the minority goes after the other minority and it keeps going and it keeps going and it keeps. Until there's none left.
Jesse Waters
Yeah, I mean, like Greg laid out this guy. His platform is everything progressives would want and then some. But the. The Israeli factor seems to be very vibrant.
Greg Gutfeld
It matters more to them than anything else.
Harold Ford Jr.
But it replaced climate. You notice, right?
Greg Gutfeld
Climate change is over.
Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah, it was just what Greta did. She just moved following Greta.
Greg Gutfeld
What is she doing now? Well, and then, yeah, only fans, remember, she went on the flotilla.
Harold Ford Jr.
Yes.
Greg Gutfeld
And she tried to go to Gaza. She was going to free Gaza. Just to bring up America's newsroom this morning. Bill de Blasio was on our show, came on to talk about the socialists.
Harold Ford Jr.
Right.
Greg Gutfeld
And the New Yorkers that won. And I said, well, are you concerned about the anti Semitism that is running through this strain of your party? And he said, I don't know what you're talking about. He goes, well, let me tell you, though, about Brad Lander. Brad Lander, all he wants is to be able to criticize Israel. That's all he's saying. I said, well, what about what happened to Dan Goldman, who was, you know, basically shunned for being Jewish, and the coffee shop kicked him out, wanted to refund his money. Big story all last week in Brooklyn. De Blasio from Brooklyn. And de Blasio goes, oh, yeah, I never heard anything about that.
Jesse Waters
I don't believe that.
Greg Gutfeld
And either I don't believe it or if it's true, you are in such a bubble that you don't realize that this is what is defining your party more so than Medicare for All or abolishing ice. This matters to them more than anything.
Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah.
Jesse Waters
There's a Little bit of a see no evil, hear no evil. Ford, where you know, oh, Grim Platner, he hit somebody. I hadn't heard of it. Oh, this person hates Jews. Oh, I haven't been following that race closely. How far can they get along with that?
Dana Perino
Well, voters ultimately will make these determinations. And I don't like some of these things I've said before. I would not have voted for the young man there in Maine in the primary. I'm a believer that I understand why you felt something for him. I don't agree with some of his
Jesse Waters
policies as a human because I'm so empathetic.
Dana Perino
And Greg, your points about his political positions. I separate the two from violence. I don't agree with this young man on a lot of things. We've shown some things he's said over the year, over the last several months on a variety of topics. But what I even more opposed to is this. Yeah, I mean, if we can't. Charlie said it best. If we can't sit and have civil, honest, rigorous, robust, sometimes rambunctious debates, but not where you're threatening violence. This, this young. This young person pointing at him should have been arrested.
Jesse Waters
He had.
Dana Perino
Whatever his views are, he had. He's entitled to them. But you're not entitled to enact violence. And that's where we're going, where we are with our politics. I talked about before the rot in our culture. And there's a rot. That rot extends to how we express and how we exercise and practice our politics. Our last segment on how we. How you can't celebrate America because you don't like individuals who may be in politics today. Our country would never have lasted 250 years because there have always been moments where people who didn't like the political leadership at the time and thought that political leadership would lead the country in the wrong direction. We not only have thrived over the 250 years, but we continue to. But we won't if our politics reduces itself to this. And finally, Kennedy had to write Democrats. If this is what we want in our party, if this is what we want in our tent, our tent's going to get destroyed if we don't figure out ways to talk to them. Figure out ways not just to talk to them, but to let them understand that politics is about outcomes for people, not yelling at people and threatening violence.
Greg Gutfeld
This wasn't the only time, though. In that same weekend, he was just at the bar watching the World cup games and they all came after him there, too. It's like now, now he's never going to have peace.
Jesse Waters
And it's so hostile looking. I mean, if this is not a woman, if this is a man and some guy came up to you like that, put their finger in your face like that, I mean, there could be trouble.
Kennedy
Yeah, but I had to register my fiance as a deadly weapon because he would have snapped those people in shoes. So it's very interesting because the issue here is not genocide. And I've thought about this a lot because, you know, they try and code their anti Semitic Semitism is anti Zionism and you know, because after World War II, the Jewish state of Israel just basically displaced everyone and has been committing genocide ever since. So now they're cloaking it in genocide. You know, we are the true warriors standing up against genocide. But you don't hear them talk about Sudan. You don't hear them talk about Christian farmers being targeted in Nigeria. You don't hear them talking about genocide in Myanmar, formerly the artist known as Burma. So what they're doing here is they're targeting a guy. And you can throw whatever you want. You can throw red meat, you can throw vegan impossible burgers, whatever you want on their altar of progressivism. It will never appease them. This is the most far left guy you could possibly find in the most liberal armpits, Northern California. And still this guy is targeted because he's Jewish and that is a bell he will never be able to unring. And they know it because all of this is now about the hill they are ready to die on. And that is anti Semitism. And the reason they gave up on the climate change stuff is what's happening in Europe right now with thousands of people dying because they decided, well, we're not going to have air conditioning as a form of of virtue signaling. And now their old people are dying and they realized it's much better to go inside. And Jesse, I will say this. I'm a straight woman wearing gay shoes and I have to be very careful with that angle. And it would never be enough for them. And I won't even try. I bought them because they're Christian Louboutins.
Jesse Waters
Okay, Coming up next, sleepy gets lost again.
Dana Perino
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Tearing down the east wing of the
Dana Perino
White House, making room for his ballroom,
Harold Ford Jr.
putting his name on a Kennedy center, building an arch in his own honor,
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even hiring his own pool guy to
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fix the reflecting pool.
Kennedy
Whoa.
Harold Ford Jr.
What a loser. So, Harold, every time he reappears like a ghost, you kind of can see how easy it was for the socialists to gain footing in that party.
Dana Perino
Probably. So one of the reasons I think we should pay presidents when they leave the White House so they don't have to do speeches, they don't have to do any kind of business. And we'll get it. We'll get a chance to talk about this current president later about these kind of things. But I hope we make a rule. These presidents should sign something when they, when they meet each other after that first meeting. Look, I won't say anything bad about you. You don't say anything bad about me. President Trump is guilty as anybody saying the most horrible things about Biden and Obama. We all just say, well, that's just, that's just Trump. Oh, this is just Biden. I wish they would all stop because it doesn't do the body politic any good. I wish he was not having to give these kinds of speeches. But hey, we've set, we continue to set thresholds. We go one below, one below, one below. The amazing thing is that our politics is so strong and our country is so strong is we can withstand the former presidents talking about current ones and current ones talking about former ones. Former ones. We have too many future issues to be dealing with this nonsense. I wish they would all stop.
Harold Ford Jr.
Dana, how can America begin to miss him if he doesn't go away?
Greg Gutfeld
Well, exactly. I've feel like what Harold is saying might be true, except for that what Biden is saying isn't landing and what Biden is saying isn't hurting Trump in any way. It's hurting his own party. And whenever these socialists come back around or like the Democrats who are saying they have a big tent, I would love to ask, does your big tent include Joe Biden still? And see what they say.
Harold Ford Jr.
They'd have to leave a flap open. Kennedy, do you think it's really about the money?
Kennedy
No, I think this is Joe Biden, unfortunately. Like, he's kind of Arrogant. And he inserts himself and you know, yes, they, they need to pay presidents enough money. I mean, for him, it would have to be hundreds of millions of dollars so he could actually build a presidential library. Which will not happen in his lifetime, sadly.
Dana Perino
But that too. Who needs another presidential library after the Obama fiasco?
Kennedy
No one sense they could just rent Joe a little wing or a room.
Greg Gutfeld
Oh, we work space.
Kennedy
Exactly right. But I have a feeling his minders leave him out there because this is second time they've done it in a week and a half. So he falls off stage. Like that is the only explanation because they leave him out there and they all leave and then he goes, where's my granddaughter? Yeah, yeah.
Harold Ford Jr.
You know, Jesse, when you look at this, do you ever think to yourself, I wonder when I'll go away. You know when to go away.
Jesse Waters
Yeah, when I don't know how to leave a stage. Literally before you give a big speech. You know this, we all know this. They will tell you where you're going when you leave. Every time he finishes, he looks around like he can't remember the guy told him to go that way. That's when I'll know when the show is over and I'll point to our director in here and I'll say, where do I go? Doors that way. It's been there for 40 years.
Harold Ford Jr.
All right, coming up, hot girls want SUVs. That's next. Ryan Reynolds here from Mint Mobile with
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Dana Perino
Welcome back. What do hot girls want this summer? According to the Wall Street Journal, an old loud suv. Jesse, your thoughts about this? Wall Street Journal.
Jesse Waters
No, they don't want that. They want men with money. Bottom line,
Dana Perino
we have short amount of time here. Lisa, how do you respond to that?
Kennedy
Kennedy, I texted my 21 year old that she'll be 21 on Wednesday. I asked her did hot girls still want jeeps? And she said no, not anymore. I said, what do they want? She said, BMW convertible. There you go.
Dana Perino
Is this a simplification of what women are looking for? This summer. Dana. Or not.
Greg Gutfeld
I just want a golf cart. No, I don't know. I don't know. Look, I think that it's fun to be in a car that makes you feel bigger and stronger. And that's what they want. And men with money.
Jesse Waters
She's working on the car they don't want. That they don't want. Definitely.
Harold Ford Jr.
Excuse me.
Dana Perino
Bring us home here.
Harold Ford Jr.
The Journal is still doing their summer articles.
Jesse Waters
Look.
Harold Ford Jr.
Okay, does anybody remember cash for clunkers?
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
Harold Ford Jr.
680,000 vehicles were traded and destroyed. Many of them serviceable, perfectly functional vehicles. SUVs, jeeps, minivans, trucks. Gone. So they destroyed usable and affordable cars for low income buyers. What we used to have is our first car. Their first used car for $2,000. Cutlass supreme. What you get when you're starting out. So what, what is this story? It's about wealthy kids getting old cars restored with luxury items and accessories. Defenders and Broncos, Toyota Land Cruisers, Harvester Scouts. Those are fun Suburbans. So the wealthy still got their old used car. That's cool. But all the lower class kids, they don't have a car.
Jesse Waters
Thanks Obama.
Harold Ford Jr.
Thanks Obama.
Dana Perino
The rich still getting over One More Thing is up next.
Harold Ford Jr.
You didn't see that. Way.
Greg Gutfeld
Time now for One More Thing.
Jesse Waters
Greg.
Harold Ford Jr.
Tonight we got Kat, Tim, Steve Cortez, Michelle Defoy attires tonight at 10. Also go to G gutfeld.com check out my shows. I'll be in Vegas In September, Clarksville, Tennessee, Peoria and St. Charles, Missouri, or MO for short.
Greg Gutfeld
I feel like we should go to you. I'm going to save mine because it's evergreen.
Harold Ford Jr.
Go ahead.
Jesse Waters
Okay, quickly. Roback celebrating America 250 in style. They got everything. Men's, women's hoodies, polos, athletic gear and much, much more. Go to the collection right now. Tonight, it's not me. Jesse Waters primetime. We have Bobby Kennedy, Dave Portnoy and Johnny Bellisario at the beach.
Greg Gutfeld
I love that.
Dana Perino
You go DP Go.
Greg Gutfeld
Okay. It's just that the founding fathers had this big thing about freedom. They. This is what they had at their party. 54 bottles of Madeira wine, 60 bottles of Claret, 22 bottles of Porter, a dozen beer, cider and a top it off, seven giant bowls of punch. They knew how to party. The question is, do we?
Dana Perino
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FOX News Podcasts — June 29, 2026
This episode centers on the rise of democratic socialism within the Democratic Party, analyzing the movement’s expansion from New York City into other states, its effects on the Democratic base, and broader cultural and political rifts within the left. The hosts discuss the strategies, goals, and potential consequences of an emboldened socialist wing challenging the party establishment—especially ahead of key primary elections and with an eye toward the 2028 presidential race. The conversation also extends to disputes over American patriotism, identity politics, generational divides, and left-wing infighting, interspersed with the show’s signature banter and sharp-tongued commentary.
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National Expansion: After recent primary successes in NY, DSA and progressives are seeking traction in Michigan, Wisconsin, and Colorado.
Big Tent Dilemma: The hosts dissect whether Democrats can remain a “big tent” party or risk being overtaken by socialists with radical demands.
AOC’s Allegiances: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is vying for DSA support, including by defending controversial statements from figures like Darieliza Chevalier.
Harold Ford Jr. expresses skepticism about socialist aims, doubting that “giving away everything for free, abolishing the police, and not rooting for America” counts as a true plan for improvement.
[05:00-10:00]
Lack of Policy Substance:
Communism Accusations:
Prediction of Purge: The hosts foresee eventual infighting where the establishment could be displaced by insurgent leftists:
[10:00-13:00]
Economic Anxiety & Generational Repetition:
Merit vs. Envy:
Critique of “Radical” Label:
[14:02-21:30]
Liberal Discontent with Patriotic Celebrations:
Ford on American Exceptionalism:
Jesse Waters on Political Patriotism:
Generational Memories:
[21:35-24:00]
Ford on Identity and Division:
Putting Intersectionality Aside:
[24:40-33:00]
“The Democrats are eating their own”:
Anti-Semitism and Intersectionality as Litmus Tests:
Media Denial and Bubble:
Kennedy on “Genocide” Narratives:
[34:06-37:39]
Biden’s Public Struggles:
Metacommentary on Aging Politicians:
[38:28-40:30]
[02:53 | Kennedy on Socialists’ Intentions]:
“They are using the Democratic establishment right now as a Trojan horse to infiltrate politics… and that is to annihilate it. They do not want to be friends with you. They are just using you…”
[07:15 | Jesse Waters on Communism]:
“Communism. Yeah, just go right to it.”
[11:04 | Greg Gutfeld quoting ‘Friends’]:
“No one told you that life was gonna be this way… My point being that today is the manifestation of every generation. Those were 30-year-olds in 1994 saying that their life sucked. But you know what they didn’t do? They didn’t try to take your stuff. They didn’t become communists or socialists.”
[15:51 | Harold Ford Jr. on Patriotism]:
“I’m proud to be an American… It’s the experiment that’s allowed me and my family to have the setbacks, the triumphs, the joys of being an American.”
[18:03 | Jesse Waters’s Satire of Political Hypocrisy]:
“They are radically trying to fundamentally Barack Obama, quote, unquote, transform America by putting new people in it, by trying to arrest the president, by telling us what kind of cars to drive…”
[23:39 | Harold Ford Jr. on Intersectionality]:
“Would it hurt you just one day to put your intersectional awareness away and be an American? Just one day. Can you do that? If you can’t, something’s wrong with you, kid.”
[28:29 | Greg Gutfeld on Left-Wing Bubble]:
“…either I don’t believe it or if it’s true, you are in such a bubble that you don’t realize that this is what is defining your party more so than Medicare for All or abolishing ICE. This matters to them more than anything.”
[33:11 | Kennedy on Appeasing Activists]:
“You can throw whatever you want…on their altar of progressivism. It will never appease them. This is the most far left guy you could possibly find in the most liberal armpits, Northern California. And still this guy is targeted because he’s Jewish…”
The panel frames the rise of socialist factions as an existential threat to the Democratic Party and, more broadly, to American political norms and identity. They debate whether the party can retain unity in diversity or whether militant activism will lead to fragmentation and purges. Alongside critiques of younger generations' economic frustrations and cultural grievances, they warn against the decay of civil debate and national pride, arguing for a return to common sense, aspirational values, and patriotic celebration—regardless of political tides.