Greg Gutfeld (2:26)

Yes.

Jesse Waters (2:27)

You know, the threat. I see it like, remember when Tyson said he wanted to eat Lennox Lewis, his children? I saw it as trash talk. I didn't actually think Tyson was going to devour his children for dinner. So this is typical Trump, right? You set a deadline, you have an extreme threat, and hopefully you force the opponent to buckle. And that's what this is all about. I don't know if they're going to extend. I don't know if they're going to escalate. Nobody knows. But JD Is right. It's really up to the Iranians. If they're going to wage economic warfare, we have the right to wage economic warfare. If they're going to attack the world economy, we can hit their economy. The Israelis have already hit the petrochemical camps, which they get $18 billion from, okay? And they use that to build missiles to fire at us. We've hit steel plants. Without steel, they can't rebuild the bridges they that we're gonna bomb. When did bombing a bridge turn into a war crime? When did that happen? Every single modern American president has bombed the bridge. Almost. I think we've been sabotaging bridges since, I don't know when bridges began to be built. When Zelensky knocked out the bridge into Crimea, the left called him a war hero. But when Trump threatens to do it, he's a war criminal. What? Zelensky has been bombing Russian power plants for three years. No one said anything. The Democrats are walking around with their little Ukrainian flag pins shoveling more money at the guy. Listen, this is according to military doctrine. You go up the escalation ladder in order them to force open the strait. If it's not like one big power plant in that country, there's like 100 power plants. So a couple of them feed power to the military or the military industrial complex, and you can take a few out some of the bridges, you isolate the missile cities, you cut off the capital for the rest of the country. This is standard operating procedure. They could escalate back, but this is what's done. And what's the alternative? You send in a ground assault unit? I don't think we're there yet.

Greg Gutfeld (4:40)

You know, Dana, this reminds me of, like, Trump reminds me of a guy at a rental car agency demanding a car, and there are no cars there. And he wants to see the manager, but the manager's dead, and so is the assistant manager. So this is from my perspective. Who is he threatening exactly? When everybody's gone, in my mind, all

Emily Campagno (5:01)

I could think about was my friend Brad Fritz and how mad he would be at that car rental place.

Greg Gutfeld (5:06)

But he's like, I guess I'm trying

Emily Campagno (5:08)

to figure out, like, who are you talking to?

Greg Gutfeld (5:09)

Who are you talking to?

Emily Campagno (5:10)

So apparent, I would Imagine that the CIA is comfortable with whoever it is, right? There were three possible guys, one of them being the speaker of the Parliament. I don't know who it is, but I imagine that John Ratcliffe is saying, yeah, this guy, we can talk to him. He's at least able to make decisions on behalf of his country at this point, until maybe something happens to him, too. I think that these deadlines become a blur and the communications becomes like. It's exhausting, right? You're following it every day, and you're gearing up, and you're gearing up like, oh, actually, no. Actually, no. And so at this. At this point, I'm with you. I don't know what's going to happen. And. And there's nothing I can do personally about it. I can just watch and think. And what I think right now is that what the President is trying to do is to balance the need to get the Iranian regime to back off in the strait, open it back up, and to also figure out a way to say, is this actually regime change? Do we really need to get the uranium out? What are these conditions going to be? And can you actually take them seriously? The Iranians are masters of saying, okay, okay, okay, sorry, give us two weeks. Yeah, okay. Can we have 45 days? And then we say yes, and then we're back into this over and over again. I think the President is trying to figure out, are we in a position to take the action we need to now so that this ends with him, right? That he said, this is going to end with me. At the same time, he is trying to make sure he doesn't want to hurt the people of Iran. Even when he. The tweet this morning when he said he's going to end the civilization, but God bless the Iranian people.

Greg Gutfeld (6:36)

Yeah.

Emily Campagno (6:37)

So the people are on his mind, and that's clear. It's funny to see every Democrat and lefty pundit out there talking about war crimes. It's like all of a sudden, when you talk about the Jones act, they're experts about the Jones Act. And if you want to talk about the filibuster, they know everything about the filibuster. Or even the discharge petition, as we were talking about last week. The final thing I would say is, where are those pundits and the journalists and the Congressman talking about Iran, suggesting that. That children link arms all around a power plant to prevent or to cause a major humanitarian crisis and war crime. That's exactly what Hamas did in Gaza. And now it's happening again. And they don't say anything.

Greg Gutfeld (7:20)

No, of course. So, Harold, good to be back with you.

Harold Ford, Jr. (7:25)

Glad to be with you.

Greg Gutfeld (7:25)

Happy Easter.

Emily Campagno (7:26)

Go blue.

Jesse Waters (7:27)

Yeah.

Greg Gutfeld (7:28)

So I, I've noticed a pattern that as the threats from Trump get more bombastic, the actual bombs get more precise. And I think we. We are led to media, that we're expecting this larger spectacle when in fact it just gets more targeted. Does that make sense to you?

Harold Ford, Jr. (7:45)

It does. I don't, I don't necessarily. First of all, it is great to be back with you. And I don't necessarily disagree with a lot of the things that Jesse and Dan have said. I differ slightly with Jesse. Just clarify. When you're at war and you attack something in a country, it has to be a primary. The way you distinguish if you're violating some human rights thing. I don't think Democrats should be dwelling on this, but is if. If there's not a military objective. Remember, Zelensky has responded to the Russians. They were bombing housing developments, residential neighborhoods, and he responded. I wish they hadn't done that, and I know we both do. But the law clearly states that if you're, if there's a. If you're providing yourself or advancing a concrete military advantage, you can attack whatever you may want to attack. And we'll see if the President hopefully doesn't have to come to that. But I step back from this, and there are three things I think that I take from the President. I've never heard a president say we're going to end the civilization. But I give the President the benefit of the doubt that he really meant affecting, in a really lasting way, civilian life in Iran, which would hopefully bring them to the table. Three things. One, we've done great damage to Iran's military. Democrats need to acknowledge that, and Republicans need to acknowledge that. But what we have not done is eliminated their ability to develop and build cheap things like drones that can attack and even help defend them. In fact, this asymmetrical world we live in now with military capabilities and military weapons is going to change the way wars are fought. And we have to address that, too. Dana touched on it. We wouldn't be having this conversation if oil prices were not high. Oil prices, the price of a barrel of oil, a WTI crude, has doubled since this war started. This is not a Democrat issue or a Republican issue. This is something that Democrats, Republicans, Independents are having to deal with. Greg, you and I both have on dark outerwear. This is, oil helped do this, Oil helped do that. So it is part of all of our lives. And for that matter, whether you ride in a car, an electric car, or a car driven, powered by fossil fuel, even this table in the color of my phone is dictated by that. 3 a fact. I think China and Russia are probably, as we sit here today, bigger beneficiaries of what's happening than others, largely because they're able to receive oil through the strait, not at the rate they were and the pace they were and the cadence they were, but they're also able to sell it as well. It was curious to me that the vice president was in Hungary today endorsing and campaigning for Mr. Orban, which they have every right to. But I would remind all of our viewers that the only European leader to endorse Mr. Orban is Mr. Putin and now us, which perhaps is another segment for us to deal with. I end with this. The Pakistanis are going to present, or at least PM has said that he wants the president to delay two weeks. I think we've all expressed some concerns or considerations for that matter, observations about that. What I hope we all can appreciate and hope the president can appreciate is that to end this, our military, as flawless as they've been in their execution, it's going to take diplomacy to bring about a lasting solution. If the Pakistanis come tonight with a two week offer, I hope the president's able to ask them, what are we getting for that? Are we, when are the Iranians going to say to us they're willing to give up something? And thus far I've not heard that. I'm not, I don't, I'm not encouraging the president to bomb anyone this evening. But if the Pakistanis and others are being honest brokers, tell us what the Iranians are willing to give up. And the one thing they have to give up in my mind is, is their ability to develop nuclear weapons. We can deal with everything else but that.

Greg Gutfeld (11:11)

All right. You know, Emily, when you, when you saw that montage of Democrats, they were calling him crazy, somebody called Trump a homicidal psychopath. Don't they realize that that actually helps Trump? That's exactly what he prefers to be known as when you're dealing with Iran.

Dana Perino (11:28)

And I see it as such a sad facsimile of what they should be saying about the actual homicidal maniacs, because these are people that have been quiet about the butchering that has been taking place on 6th Avenue in this city, in other cities. You know, for Kamala, for example, to weigh in on his tweet via tweet, when she was silent about the hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants that were going to the bathroom in bags and getting raped in historical numbers, murdered in historical numbers. The lost children. You know, I see this as such a sad. It's not a reflection of him, it's a reflection of them. And as always, they're taking him literally, but they're not taking him for the face value of what he's actually trying to do. Which to your point, that finally he says, it ends with me, this is finally the one desk in the Oval Office, or the same desk. The same. The one president behind the Resolute desk that will actually finish this. And with all of them talking about impeachment and equating it to sort of domestic relations, ignoring the fact that this is a regime, a republic that has murdered in just the last two estimates, two years estimates of 30,000 people that right now they just hanged an 18 year old named Amir Hussein and won't return the body to his family for burial. And I'm sure none of them know his name. I'm sure all of them are ignoring. And I have yet to see them weigh in on the war crime of using the human shields of women and children around the power plants where 1% of the country right now even has access to communication. And you're telling me that that's somehow less than the President's tweet who finally is putting American interests first? This is the same regime that flayed a CIA station chief by the inch of his skin using a small laser. The depravity of this regime, the evilness of this regime, the war crimes of this regime, and they're somehow asking us to color between the lines. This is exactly what we had to do under the Obama administration and the Biden administration, which is why our troops were in harm's way, not because of an ev, but because of their own commander in chief that didn't have the vertebrae and didn't have the wherewithal to say yes, protect us at any cost and all cost except the pricelessness of the cost of human life.

Greg Gutfeld (13:47)

All right, coming up, Gavin Newsom gets neutered by his woke wife,

Jesse Waters (14:12)

Gracie. Gavin's getting a glow up for 2028. California is dropping 19 million on a PR makeover to convince you that his state is in a full blown dumpster fire. But Gab's biggest PR problem isn't the streets, it's the living room. Gavin's first partner, his wife, Jennifer Siebel, might be trying to nuke his electoral chances with WOKE comments like these.

Jennifer Siebel Newsom (14:34)

Roll it the conservative women that trump hand picks who align themselves with an agenda that controls women, restricting our rights, limiting our autonomy, and pushing us back into this straight jacket of femininity that is only in service of men. You might want to wake up and see this for what it truly is. It's a war on all women. I've given our boys dolls, even if they tear the head off, I've given them dolls to learn that care and caregiving is not just an activity that's reserved for women, but that it's also an activity that is a responsibility of men.

Jesse Waters (15:11)

All right, let's start with. Let's start with the wives. We all know about problem spouses.

Dana Perino (15:22)

You might.

Greg Gutfeld (15:22)

We'll go to you.

Jesse Waters (15:23)

I am the problem spouse. What needs to be done about her? Remember what they did to Michelle? She said that one thing. Never been this proud of my first time. And then they just sidelined her for six months. Is that gonna happen with her?

Dana Perino (15:37)

Well, she should have been sidelined a long time, but I feel like she is the quintessential Los Angeles, really annoying actress. You know, auditioning every day and then at brunch with her girlfriend says things like that where you need a dictionary to even understand what she's saying. And I find it ironic that for her whole position that it's all about the patriarchy and we need to dismantle it. Her husband, frankly, is sort of the biggest perpetrator. He's the one that just gave an interview and said that the reason that his first marriage didn't work out when he was mayor of San Francisco is because his young wife was, quote, in a hurry. So was I in a hurry when I was pursuing my professional goals?

Harold Ford, Jr. (16:14)

Was.

Dana Perino (16:14)

Was AG Pam Bondi in too much of a hurry? I mean, she has to go home. And I would think reckon with someone who is the governor of a state that insists on speaking for every other person of color and every woman and doing a better job than them. Or he would step aside and say, oh, no, honey, it's okay with you. I also think that everything out of her mouth is a frankly self elevation to get herself out of that really boring bucket that she's in. She is naturally just a vanilla, basic, boring white woman. Another one hogging oxygen. So she's trying to say, oh, no, no, no. Here's how I'm relevant and here's how I'm different. I see none of those things about any of her comments. I them tiresome. And unfortunately for her, the role models that I look up to and a Lot of other Californians were those in the administration that actually earned their way to the top.

Jesse Waters (17:06)

Okay, well, let's get another white woman's perspective.

Emily Campagno (17:09)

Okay. We'll be happy to remember if they were to go to the White House and if he were to become president. She doesn't want to be the first lady. She wants to be the first partner. So she would already be making history, guys. The other thing is, on the Pam Bondi and Kristi Noem front, by saying what she's saying, that it's only because of sexism and the patriarchy, she's undercutting every other Democrat's point of view that it was on the merits. And that, to me, would be the reason to say, why don't you take a seat? Because we don't necessarily need you out there. I don't know what he's going to do. There's more where this came from. He used taxpayer dollars to help institutionalize. Well, basically put her documentaries and all of the schools. Have you done this on Waters?

Jesse Waters (17:53)

Not yet.

Emily Campagno (17:54)

Oh, that's gonna be a good week

Harold Ford, Jr. (17:56)

when you do that.

Jesse Waters (17:57)

I don't usually. I kind of lay off the spouse as Greg on my show.

Greg Gutfeld (18:00)

Yeah, you know, people talk about that. It's the only redeeming quality. You have such restraint until they find out why you do that, until they hit on them later. She talked about how much better Silicon Valley Valley would be if women ran it. It would be nicer, and if it would be nicer if chicks ran things. Okay, explain Real Housewives. Explain every screeching broad on TikTok. Explain the view. Women are not nice, and they are definitely not nice to each other. So she. The reason why she said Silicon Valley would be better because women would more likely to limit speech and behavior so that it wouldn't be as free as you would see now. So basically, what is. What is she saying? She's saying women make better fat fascists than men. And there is proof. And we've seen this, and you mentioned the awfuls. It's like you see these female health givers, practitioners, you know, on social media vowing death against ICE and Trump supporters. It's. It's ego married to will with a veneer of emotion and pointed at a. At a target where if you punish it, it brings you virtue. That is where she's come from. She is the almost the original awful, the affluent white female liberal who demands subservience to her view. But she does something that no PR firm could do. She creates sympathy for Gavin because, holy hell, you know what I mean? But I said this last night. I'll say it again. They are the Jim and Tammy Faye Baker of politics. They're this garish pair of cosmetically enhanced and designed, seeking power instead of religion. Tammy Faye and Jim, they chose religion. They chose politics. But they both wield the tools of shame to keep themselves in power and to get wealthy and to get status. They don't say anything practical or real, but it's the script that they use that's in vogue with these elite circles that keep them going. And she, let's be honest, she's attractive. Very pretty.

Jesse Waters (20:15)

Okay.

Greg Gutfeld (20:15)

Almost as pretty as him.

Jesse Waters (20:18)

Top that, Harold.

Harold Ford, Jr. (20:19)

I have an M2. I'd say I'm with you. I don't like. I think spouses and families should be left out of it. But they.

Emily Campagno (20:27)

Yeah, yeah, you're with.

Greg Gutfeld (20:28)

Yeah, that's exactly what Jeff said. Exactly what he said.

Harold Ford, Jr. (20:32)

Unfortunately, they aren't. But Democrats as a whole need to understand, and I repeat what I've said, we need to talk about our difference in priorities and what we. How we would manage, how we would govern, how we would make people's lives better. And there's not enough of that. Governor Newsom will have to answer for his record in California and answer for his vision for the country, and we'll see if he's able to do that. But. But I don't think that many of the people out in my party now who are out talking about running are doing enough of that. They point out why they think President Trump is a bad person or a bad. A bad leader. I don't think he's a bad guy, the president. I think he has priorities that are different than mine. If I were them, I'd be out talking about their housing plans, their education plans, how you plan to help communities and states across the country deal with the massive economic disruption that AI is going to cause. What are you going to do to actually rein in the size of government? You think? About a year ago today on this set, we might have been in a different studio, but if I were on this set a year ago, we were talking about Doge and talking about how we were going to rein in spending. The administration has abandoned that effort in a serious way. Now they're going about it, trying to talk about fraud and prosecuting fraud, and I guess that's an element of it. But there's so many other things in government where we spend too much money that's not necessarily fraud. One hand just doesn't know what the other hand is. Doing. Dana one day on the show about a year ago talked about how. And some people say it was a small amount, but. But what Dana was saying was really how it cascades. There are 10, 12, 15, 20 subscriptions to the same things that people have in some of these federal offices. That may look like a small number, but when you add it up across every agency, you're talking about millions, if not hundreds of millions of dollars in their effort after effort after effort like that. If I were running for president or if I were a governor or mayor and talking about how wehow we right size things and how different my priorities are than President Trump, that's what I'd be talking about. Not some of this nonsense that. That some of these people are talking about today, which is primarily they hate Trump. That alone is not gonna do it. It may be a start, but it's not gonna get you there.

Jesse Waters (22:26)

All right, before we go, you said women are broads. Are we allowed to say broads now?

Harold Ford, Jr. (22:31)

Nope.

Greg Gutfeld (22:31)

It's a compliment.

Jesse Waters (22:32)

It's a compliment.

Greg Gutfeld (22:32)

Okay. The best is your prayer partner.

Harold Ford, Jr. (22:37)

I'm asking both of you.

Greg Gutfeld (22:38)

Best women are broads.

Emily Campagno (22:41)

That's true.

Greg Gutfeld (22:41)

They play softball. They drink beer. They ride motorcycles. Everybody knows abroad we want a woman.

Harold Ford, Jr. (22:49)

Christ has risen.

Jesse Waters (22:51)

I'm not so sure I agree. Those are the best women. They're not Greg. Greg speaks for himself coming up next. Watch out, Democrats. Barack Obama wants to see your id.

Dana Perino (23:01)

I say softball.

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Emily Campagno (23:53)

Yes, we can show some id. While Democrats remain staunchly opposed, the party's top star apparently wants to see your license. That's because the Obama center is requiring ID for free entry. According to their website, Illinois residents must show valid identification to receive free admission on certain days. Is this an outrage, Greg?

Greg Gutfeld (24:13)

I don't know. I mean, here's my thing. I will go to the library and I will present my photo ID if they show me his birth certificate in long form. I agree with Harold.

Emily Campagno (24:25)

Long form.

Greg Gutfeld (24:27)

Long form. Harold was right in the break when he said you know he's Kenyan. I know it for a fact. He's Kenya. You said that, Harold. I have it on tape. Oh, I accidentally erased it. You know, of course they're going to say, look, the library is different, okay? How. How is entering Obama's library deserving of more security than voting? I mean, who do you think is going to go to the library other than students and kids forced to go on mandatory field trips? At least it's better than chemistry. I don't think there's going to be a lot of Ms. 13 gang members, you know, coming to the library to read about Obama's canine diet in Malaysia. Sorry.

Jesse Waters (25:08)

You know what?

Greg Gutfeld (25:10)

Here's my thing. We have seen every single major institution run by humans rife with corruption. You can go anywhere from the homeless, industry, health care, Medicaid, education, prison system, Hollywood, the drug industry, childcare, you name it. Are we to believe that every single institution is vulnerable to corruption except the election system? The resistance to photo ID tells you that the corruption is already going on. We can't stop it.

Emily Campagno (25:44)

Harold, your name was invoked. I'll go over to you.

Harold Ford, Jr. (25:46)

Yeah, so a couple things. I don't have any issue with the voter ID thing that's being talked about in Congress. I do think if we're going to do that, I think we should all recognize that this is a step towards nationalizing elections, which I happen to think we need to nationalize elections from three or four standpoints. First, we should have uniform ways to register to vote, a uniform way to count votes. As much as we talk about blue states and red states and the differences between how they manage, blue states generally have faster ways to count votes. New York and New Jersey and Virginia in this last election, we knew the winners of Those races by 11 o', clock, the evening of the election day. We sometimes wait days, if not weeks for states. And that's because federalism lives in its most robust way in how we allow states to manage elections. Now, if we choose not to do that, I don't have a problem. We should have a uniform way in which you present an ID and the kind of IDs you can present at the voting place, how you register, when voter locations are open and when they're closed, the kind of voting systems they use, and for that matter, the ways we count votes. If we're unwilling to do all of that, then I think you have to accept the fact and understand why states like Idaho and others are rejecting the DOJs ask for the list of voters in their states because it presumably they want to match that up with who votes in elections. But I'm feeling like I'm doing a

Emily Campagno (27:06)

success with my kids.

Harold Ford, Jr. (27:07)

It is. It is an interesting.

Emily Campagno (27:08)

You're very good. You're very good and very sneaky. Because I realize it's been Democrats that wanted to do the nationalizing of elections ever since. So that's why a lot of dp.

Harold Ford, Jr. (27:18)

I'm not being sneaky. I'm being fun about. I've been asking for this for a long time.

Emily Campagno (27:22)

That people might not realize that it's been a Democratic position for a long time. You're very good at it.

Harold Ford, Jr. (27:27)

Right. But you can't cherry pick. If you said, we want to, we want voter idea, let's do it all.

Emily Campagno (27:31)

I don't want to nationalize elections. Okay.

Harold Ford, Jr. (27:34)

That's why you're doing.

Emily Campagno (27:35)

I know, but fighting over voter id State voter id, Jesse. It's like the last Chapter Island. Like, what are you fighting?

Jesse Waters (27:45)

I don't even care anymore about voter ID after listening to that. The first black president should have a better library. Can we be honest?

Greg Gutfeld (27:55)

Yes.

Jesse Waters (27:55)

It should have a little panache. Am I saying that correctly? Panache.

Greg Gutfeld (28:00)

It's brutalist.

Jesse Waters (28:01)

It should be stylish, not brutalist. And not even. This does not even look brutalist. It just looks brutally ugly.

Greg Gutfeld (28:07)

It looks like a Norelco shaver.

Dana Perino (28:10)

Yes, totally.

Jesse Waters (28:12)

The landscape is completely flat. If you want to have something big, you don't go fat and wide and squat like Greg. You do something tall and slender and majestic like me. Everybody in the neighborhood hates it. And it cost $850 million. For 850 million, you'd think you'd see a masterpiece. The thing is a skunk. Somewhat. I think the architect might have been MAGA and just did this to Barack as a prank. I don't get it. And what are you gonna see in it? All I care about is the bin Laden raid wing. Everything else. What happened in those eight years besides Obamacare and killing bin Laden? Name one thing.

Emily Campagno (28:53)

Obamacare.

Greg Gutfeld (28:53)

Beer Gate. Beer summit.

Jesse Waters (28:56)

Exactly.

Greg Gutfeld (28:56)

Henry Louis Gates. Do you remember that?

Jesse Waters (28:59)

Exactly. Nothing.

Emily Campagno (29:00)

What about the sign language interpreter in South Africa?

Greg Gutfeld (29:03)

That was fantastic.

Emily Campagno (29:05)

Emily, Last word.

Dana Perino (29:05)

I remember that commercial was it for Circuit Cities. And the commercial was the thing that plugs into a wall and it travels around and then it goes.

Greg Gutfeld (29:13)

Yeah.

Dana Perino (29:13)

So that's like. It's like the Norelco shaver. It's stuck in the sand. The bin Laden raid exhibit is at the CIA headquarters, so it's actually not inside. So there's literally nothing of interest to see inside.

Harold Ford, Jr. (29:24)

Those walls.

Dana Perino (29:24)

I'll say this. So for Democratic leader Chuck Schumer to say this, he goes, our objective as Democrats is not to a photo id. He says, our objection is that it's a voter suprem suppression bill. And I just have to reiterate that bureaucracy is not suppression. And extra steps is not suppression. And being annoying is not suppression. Do you remember when we covered the potential for that sort of thing you sign up for where the entire time through the airport, you don't have to show id? And we talked about that. The report said it shaves off something like eight minutes. And the question was, is eight minutes worth it to have someone sitting next to you on the plane that you were like, man, no one saw that person's ID the whole time. So reverse that here. Yes, a couple extra annoying steps. In a society that is used to bureaucracy all day, every day, and showing IDs all day, every day, including at the video store when they existed, that you're telling me that that is somehow suppression?

Jesse Waters (30:25)

Video store.

Emily Campagno (30:26)

What is the DMV video killed the radio store.

Greg Gutfeld (30:28)

That's what I'm saying.

Emily Campagno (30:30)

All right. Sex in the city in the middle of the sidewalk. I don't think Terry Bradshaw would last in Zo Runs New York.

Dana Perino (30:57)

The homeless problem will never get solved in blue cities. And here's why. Why? Four people connected to a company that operates homeless shelters for migrants got arrested in New York City for a bribery and kickback scheme worth millions. The feds are also looking into a city councilwoman and a top aide to Governor Kathy Hochul in the same probe. What do regular New Yorkers get for all that wasted money? Well, how about this, for example? A homeless couple openly drinking, having sex and defecating in pizza boxes in the middle of the sidewalk, setting up camp in Mayor Zoran Mamdani's old neighborhood, Astoria, Queens. Greg, I sort of feel like when I heard about this, it's like, oh, hold my beer. That's all you saw by 7am I see that times 50. Every sidewalk square here, they say there's

Greg Gutfeld (31:43)

like a loophole that allows them to defecate and have sex in public. I think the loophole is they're attractive. Do you see there's a child in that picture?

Emily Campagno (31:55)

No.

Greg Gutfeld (31:55)

Yes. Oh. Oh, yeah. I don't know if that's their child, but that's the real problem. The other. The big problem here is that if you solve this issue, then the gravy train goes away. This is why when. When you just see. This is the malaise that Just keeps growing because every broken body on the street is a dollar sign. It justifies the budget. It's just like the autism explosion in Minneapolis. That's how you make the money. I think it's also why they detest Trump so much, because he comes from a business world where you get ahead by solving problems, not extending them indefinitely. In business, if you don't fix it, they'll find someone else who will do it. But in government, there's no option like that. And Harold brought this up, and I agree completely. The problem. I am at a loss about Doge and the doj. DOJ in general. We've uncovered billions in fraud, and we keep hearing about more fraud, whether it's the high speed rail or the Somalian scam. And whatever happened to Fani Willis? I mean, and we have people like Nick Shirley and Elon Musk and Doge who pulled the scab off. You know, that's kind of disgusting, Dana. I never should have listened to you on that analogy. But shouldn't somebody have been there to treat the wound? It's like, what did we do? I thought that we were gonna see tons of arrests, throw Jesse in jail where he belongs.

Jesse Waters (33:17)

I belong on the streets pooping in pizza boxes. I was homeless for a time, but I crashed at my buddy's parents penthouse. I got out of it. Bounce back. Look at me now. Yes, this is. But this is how urban politics works. So you get billions of dollars to spend on helping the homeless, and then the politicians pass out contracts to allies that run the nonprofits, and then the allies skim off the top. They do nothing for the homeless, and then they do political favors for the politician. The nonprofits then become political organizers. They help turn out the vote. They do fundraisers. They take the cash they gave to the homeless and then they give it back to the politicians. That's how it's operated for decades, and no one does a thing about it. The fact that they caught this friend of the governor's. I mean, there's always a friend of the governor's with their hand out.

Dana Perino (34:16)

Why is it still going, Harold? Why don't people push back? Why is there not more of a appreciation for people that uncover rampant fraud, at least from the left?

Harold Ford, Jr. (34:26)

Look, well, I think it goes both ways. I think Greg. I agree with Greg. We've heard about Epstein, corruption, Doge not putting all them together, but the things that we're going to get solved. We pushed all those to the back burner. Nothing has been done.

Jesse Waters (34:38)

We got Don Lemon.

Harold Ford, Jr. (34:42)

We talked about Greenland Greenland was the talk of the summit there in Davos. The President said we had to have an iron dome over Greenland to protect. We just abandon these conversations. I say this only to say that the thing behind DOGE was simple. Look at programs in government, initiatives in government, and the ones that are working, scale them. The ones that can be fixed, reform them. And the ones that aren't working, rescind them. It's very simple with the homeless policy in our country. The one state that has gotten the most acclaim for getting homelessness policy right is Utah. The Mormon Church and the political class in Utah have done an extraordinary job of doing something brave and bold and big. They decided to build houses for people who are homeless, and they were able to stay there if they got job training and they placed them in jobs. And some will say, well, how do you make sure they did it? I don't know how they did it, but they're doing it successfully. That's what we ought to be seeing.

Jesse Waters (35:38)

I don't know about the Utah example.

Greg Gutfeld (35:40)

I mean, it's probably because smaller numbers makes it more possible, I guess.

Harold Ford, Jr. (35:43)

Well, then, you know what? Then figure it out and scale it. That's called making things work again.

Emily Campagno (35:48)

Well, this happens in a lot of different places. I do think that Vice President Vance has an incredible opportunity as the head of the fraud task force to try to push DOJ to make sure that those types of things happen. Some of these are state crimes, but you don't see Gavin Newsom wanting to do that. But maybe he should. I think it would help him, actually. And I just would say that it's very hard then to have this kind of fraud and abuse of public funds and then turn around and tell people it's their patriotic duty to pay more in taxes.

Harold Ford, Jr. (36:17)

But Greg's right. They should indict these people. No one's been indicted in Minnesota. You? No one. All this fraud and crime that they said was happening, I've not seen one indictment. Republicans that have the, they're in charge. It's no Democrat problem. This is the Republicans not doing it. You know what? I think there's probably not as much fraud as they were suggesting.

Greg Gutfeld (36:34)

Are you kidding?

Dana Perino (36:35)

No. Stay tuned.

Harold Ford, Jr. (36:36)

Prosecute him. Prosecute him, brother, then. All I'm saying is prosecute him.

Greg Gutfeld (36:40)

I'm not talking to you anymore.

Harold Ford, Jr. (36:41)

Prosecute him.

Greg Gutfeld (36:42)

We're done.

Harold Ford, Jr. (36:43)

Jesus wept for this.

Dana Perino (36:44)

All right, guys, the fastest is up next.

Harold Ford, Jr. (37:01)

My Wolverines won last night. Welcome back. Forget your resume. Thanks to AI, Employers are holding week long in office job trials to see if you're up to the task. You strike me as someone who's always up to the task. What do you think about this story?

Dana Perino (37:16)

Thank you. I love this so much. Here's why. Because it's the one thing you can't fake is being in person. Yeah. Let's see. What. Do you make eye contact? Do you greet someone when you walk in the room? Do you do your job? Do you smell? Are you awesome? All of the things. You can only tell so much from your residence. I hate that messy smell. I can't. I feel like New York is just. We're packed on top of each other. I love it so much. And also it's for the other person to decide, too. While I applied to law school, my parents made me work at a law firm so that I was sure that it was an environment that I wanted to be a part of. So it's a symbiotic, mutually beneficial arrangement. I love this.

Harold Ford, Jr. (37:53)

Jesse, your thoughts about this?

Jesse Waters (37:54)

Well, when you draft someone in the NFL, you don't just look at their stat line, okay? You make them go to the combine. You make them run the 40. You put them through some drills. That's what we do on primetime. They come in, I make them cut tape, I make them take dictation, and they see if they can handle it.

Dana Perino (38:12)

What are you, in the 50s?

Jesse Waters (38:13)

Dictation? Yeah, that's how I do my mono. How do you do your mono?

Greg Gutfeld (38:17)

You don't dictate it.

Jesse Waters (38:18)

You write it yourself.

Dana Perino (38:19)

I can't.

Jesse Waters (38:20)

What are you, a little monkey? How does someone do that for you? Gutfeld.

Harold Ford, Jr. (38:25)

Your name was invoked, Mr. Gutfeld.

Greg Gutfeld (38:27)

Well, you know, this is a very important point. As you guys know, I ran a club in the 90s in New Jersey. And, you know, I didn't just go by resume. I said, you have to come in and dance in the lunchtime hour. It's the hardest hour to dance. You have the free buffet. Half the guys have been up all night, you know, have going through their meth psychosis. If you can go through. If you can dance through the lunch hour, you can get through anything.

Jesse Waters (38:53)

I'm going to take you to lunch tomorrow.

Emily Campagno (38:55)

It was amazing. When I passed.

Harold Ford, Jr. (38:58)

It was amazing.

Emily Campagno (38:58)

It felt so good.

Harold Ford, Jr. (38:59)

Bp, You.

Greg Gutfeld (39:00)

You.

Harold Ford, Jr. (39:00)

You mentor people and talk to people.

Emily Campagno (39:02)

Here's all I want to know.

Harold Ford, Jr. (39:03)

What are your thoughts on this?

Emily Campagno (39:05)

Can you bake? Are you baking?

Jesse Waters (39:06)

Yes.

Emily Campagno (39:07)

That's what we want to know.

Jesse Waters (39:08)

Yes. Can she cook?

Harold Ford, Jr. (39:11)

I agree.

Emily Campagno (39:11)

Dana, can you take dictation and cook?

Harold Ford, Jr. (39:16)

We're going to add Dana to our prayer group. One thing is up next.

Greg Gutfeld (39:31)

Yeah, Dana.

Emily Campagno (39:32)

Okay, Purple State Book Tour Florida, West Palm Beach, Mandel Public Library, Raptis Rare Bookstore and Vero Beach Book Center. And then there's also a bunch of Texas sites and St. Louis. Go to danaperinobooks.com purplestate and I will see you there.

Greg Gutfeld (39:48)

I envision a movie in the making. Dana, Good. Not about your book, but just you and I going abroad. Okay, Tonight we got cat tip, Joe Mackey, Ben Bankus, Charles Payne. That's tonight, Jesse.

Jesse Waters (39:59)

Oh, man. Eight o'. Clock. You know what that means. The deadline. Happy bridge and power plant day. I really shouldn't be so flip about that. It's very serious. I think we're going to get a truce, Harold.

Greg Gutfeld (40:12)

It's a great night.

Harold Ford, Jr. (40:13)

Last night to be a Michigan Wolverine. We beat UConn NCAA Finals 69 to 63. Congrats to the UConn team. They played a great game, but it couldn't handle my Wolverines. Go Blue.

Greg Gutfeld (40:23)

You got five seconds.

Dana Perino (40:24)

Emily, Jackie and Shadow, everyone's favorite Eagles just had another two Eaglets. We love you, little ones. And seven seconds to spare.

Greg Gutfeld (40:31)

Wow. Excellent work.

Harold Ford, Jr. (40:32)

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