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Hello everybody. I'm jesse watters along with kellyanne conway, harold ford jr, dana perino and joey jones. It's five o' clock at the great american state fair in washington d.c. and this is the five. America's about to throw the biggest birthday bash in history. Blowing out 250 candles with a star spangled explosion of fireworks and freedom. With epic military flyovers all day right here at the Great American State Fair. It was so earth shattering that one New York Times reporter took to her ex account to be a Karen about it. Listen to this quote, why are we having so many jets scorching over DC? Nerve wracking. I mean, I get 250 celebrations, but it feels like the apocalypse. Later tonight, President Trump heads to Mount Rushmore for a big beautiful speech. But don't worry, Harold, he's not carving his face into the mountain yet. And earlier, the President made the case that America's golden age is already paying dividends.
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We are in a golden age. We have more factories being built today than ever before. We have more people working today than at any time ever in the history of our country. And people making more money than they've ever made. I'm not talking about rich people. I'm talking about people that have like normal or normalized jobs, more money than
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they've ever made before. 401ks are up at levels that they've never seen before, up 80 and 90%.
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And the stock market's at an all time high.
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Nobody's ever seen anything like that.
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But even as America celebrates 250 years of greatness, Democrats are still determined to tell you it's a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad place and that they'd rather be in communist Cuba.
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Cuba had done an amazing job of preventing maternal mortality and neonatal mortality, cancer, all of the things that we strive to do in the United States.
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MAGA America is sad, pathetic, boring, has no entertainment, no culture, no stars.
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MAGA America sucks.
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And people don't even want to come here anymore. It's a GOP war on black America.
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And if we don't stand up and fight back, we're going to be back in the cotton fields.
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I mean, you can always count on Hank Johnson for one of those.
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Dana?
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Yes. So one, I think that it is an incredible site with all the flyovers. There's building excitement. It is very hot. So that's why just right now you won't see people right here, but they're going to reopen the fair because it just got a little bit too hot for everybody. Today. And they had to just out of safety, get people to, to go back. I think that people in opposition to President Trump have just made a choice, right? Life is a decision making experience and their choice is they're not going to enjoy this time. They have decided to just be completely against. Now Democrats of old, if they were in opposition to somebody, they would try to beat you, right? They wouldn't be defeatist about it. They'd throw a bigger party and a better party and they would show you and they would make it free and it would be open bar and everybody would want to go to that party. And something has changed. Like Greg talks about them being broken people. And I was thinking about that. We'll talk about mom, Donnie later in the show. But it just seems to me like they've made a choice to be dour when you can, as human, especially as an American, right? You have the pursuit of happiness. You can choose your own adventure here. You can choose how you're going to live your life. And one of them might be just like, join the party. But if you can't join them, try to beat them. But they didn't even do that.
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You know, at a normal party, there's gonna be people there you don't like, Kellyanne, right? You don't have to spend the whole time at the party complaining that they're there. You just ignore them. You go to the bar, you do your thing. Why can't Democrats do that?
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Everyone has that niece who comes home each Thanksgiving just to ruin the meal for everyone. Look, I've learned to ignore them into irrelevant speakers. Even the forecaster said rain every single day this week. I haven't seen a drop anywhere. And look, they're sour, they're dour, and they just seem to. Not all of them, of course, but hating on America at a time when we should be lifting it up. If we can agree on anything, it's the founding of this country. The patriotism, the optimism, the opportunity, the prosperity. How in the world can all the FIFA World cup fans from all over the world see something, that Americans who were born into this and aren't here for two short weeks this summer, but for their entire lives. And it just escapes them. I'm so pleased President Trump is in the Oval at this time for our celebration for the Olympics in a few years, for America to 50, for FIFA, because he does promote that optimism. And look at the numbers. The stock market's an all time high, not just for rich people. More people are in the investor class, more home ownership, more Folks able to work and grow, entrepreneurs can dream and and small businesses thriving this country. Innovators can create. Your children, especially your daughters, can have freedoms and rights and go to school and be educated and drive and be whoever they want to be because they're born in this great country. And I'm glad it's going to Mount Rushmore because in 2020, President Trump went to Mount Rushmore on July 4, and Governor Noem at the time said they were having a hard time getting more approvals for more fireworks. There was some kind of ban before, of course, he got that lifted. They went there. And his message then six years ago on July 4th at Mount Rushmore is the message for all time now about equality, justice, our rule of law. It's just a different system when you can elect your leaders. And I have this to say, he also said in Mount Rushmore then, which is true today, that our country has lifted so many millions out of poverty and taught them to appreciate constitutional republics and democracy and self rule and governance. And even if we have a stray American leader here and a congressperson there crapping all over the country, I believe in the spirit and the dignity and the uniqueness of America. It's a beautiful country filled with amazing people. And I'm not gonna let them crash the party. Jesse, get them off the guest list. Let them stay home. Stay home. Miserable in your air conditioning, living online, off the grid.
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I don't care where you are, but you can't stay here. Harold, Happy July 4th Eve. Glad you made it down.
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Same to you, brother. Thank you. The I don't necessarily, first of all, it's good to be with everybody. I don't necessarily disagree with Kellyanne or DP and I'm probably going to agree with, with the veteran at the table as well. I this day, to me or these days leading up to the 4th of July and this 250, the the radical idea of all men are created equal. We are a country that has tried our hardest to live by that, to practice our politics that way and to determine when we might go in to lead men and women into harm's way because we believe in that so strongly. The revolution is an unfinished revolution because we're constantly striving, constantly trying to be better. I think people who voices that want to raise concerns about how freedoms and opportunities are not flowing as abundantly as they should to communities and areas, rural and urban alike, across the country have every right to do that, but do it in a more unifying way. You and I were talking off air before starting, I know we've got a segment we're going to talk about one or two voices, but there's, there's no need to not acknowledge that we are the greatest nation to ever be birthing. We are the greatest experiment that is an ongoing experiment. Back in 1976, when we celebrated the bicentennial, we were coming out of Vietnam, we were coming out of Watergate, stagflation was being overcome and Gerald Ford helped pull the country together. Now there were voices then that talked about some of the things we talk about now, about racial inequality, economic inequality. And those issues are issues unfortunately are going to have bedeviled our country for 250 years. But we don't make it better by blaming Americans who are celebrating this great day and this great moment. What we ought to be doing is trying to figure out ways to offer answers, solutions, and figure out ways to organize people around some common pursuits and goals. So those voices that are out there that are a little harsher than I think they should be, God bless them. I'm happy to be an American today, as I am every day, and I'm happy to celebrate 250 years of the greatest experiment mankind has ever known.
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Well said, Jones. Take us home. Yeah.
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Hank Johnson is proof that you can have an intellectual disability and still make it in life. I mean, that's what he is, right? This is the same guy that goes to an admiral. I don't know if you put troops on Guam, the direct quote is the whole island will become overpopulated, that it will tip over. That was a real Congress. That was a congressman drilling an admiral about movement of troops in the Pacific. Which, by the way, today is the most important thing we could do because we're worried about China. So even back then, not only was he dumb, but he was also wrong. So when he sits there and he goes, that the current administration aims to put, he said us. I don't know how much time he spent in slavery. Maybe he is that old. I don't think so. He said, put us back in the cotton fields. Listen, if that is who you are, if that's the message you have for Americans today, you're the worst this country has to offer. And I condemn the folks in Atlanta that keep putting him in there because that's, you know, Joy Reid being a curmudgeon or, you know, and a lot of other words I could say that would, that would make it onto those websites. Okay, well, she's an outrage merchant. That's what she does. He's supposed to be a congressional member. He's supposed to be a member of Congress. They like to say leaders. They're not leaders, they're representatives. He's supposed to represent people. And if there are that many people in Georgia who are that stupid and that vindictive against this country, I don't know what to do, man, because I live in Georgia and I don't meet them. I go downtown Atlanta, I don't meet them. So, you know, Hank Johnson hits close to home for me, both because of my time in the military, but also I live in Georgia. But to say something like that, I mean, that is such an evil thing to say. They want to put us back in the cotton fields. That is what divides this country. That's what makes people think it's okay to line up a scope and shoot somebody. That type of rhetoric. And if you want to say that President Trump is guilty of it, well, okay, keep your ability to condemn it. And the minute you start saying what I consider to be much more hateful things, you lose that. And then you move on down the line to Jayapal. Just a quick statistic, and you can dice this up as much as you want. The people in Cuba, 40, 80% are below the poverty line. It's 10 to 25 here. So, I mean, we're doing something right. And poverty is based on a mean life in that country. In Cuba, poverty, I think, is like $2 a day wages. In this country, it's almost $70,000 a year. So even the poverty line is different. To know that the majority of people in Cuba at any given time are struggling to get food or skipping a meal that day, not because of anything this administration is doing, but because of what their government has done for the better part of 50 years. And to sit there and sing that as the model we should look after, hey, when people tell you who they are, listen to them. And that's what Democrats in Congress want us to be. And it scares me to death that because President Trump is bombastic and sometimes hyperbolic in his delivery, they're going to leverage that to maybe even ruin this country. Regardless of his record, regardless of the fact he's gotten us out of many more wars than you can arguably say he ever started, regardless of the fact that the economy, when you go from 2015 until now, everybody's in a pretty good spot even. And I live among those that are struggling, and they're struggling because they don't have quite as many choices or things are a little bit more expensive. Not because there's not a job to be had. And that's where we were not long after 2008. So I'd say the President has done a pretty good job keeping this country in a good place for 250 years. And if you can't take a break from trying to divide this country to celebrate it, I don't know, I guess I went to war and lost my legs for you, too. But, you know, I guess I got some buyer's remorse. If that's who you are.
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All right, you're here. Thank you so much. And up next, Zoran the Destroyer gives his socialist sermon.
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Gone. Come with the wind.
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There ain't nobody.
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Well, it was like a socialist state of the union. Did you see this? New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani giving an America to 50 address this morning. As his influence within the Democratic party certainly continues to grow, the socialist mayor spent much of his speech focusing on what he says are America's failures.
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As we mark 250 years, what do we see? We see a city of contradictions within a nation of contradictions. We see the wealthiest country in the history of the world. One where children go to sleep hungry while the world's first trillionaire hungers for more. We see monopolies that dominate every industry and oligarchs who buy elections. We see masked agents terrorizing our streets, eating food cooked by our undocumented neighbors before spiriting them away and unmarked.
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Vance this has more. Democrats who are moderates try to hit the brakes before their party takes a hard left turn fully into socialism.
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Party may have to splinter.
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People always talk about the end of the two party system. We might see pretty close to the end of it. Democrats are going off the rails. They're not even focused. What matters to people is affordability. And Democrats right now are focused on two things. They focus on anti Semitism and socialism.
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If less than 45% of Democrats are even proud to be an American.
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And that's why they're they.
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They are nominating people that are an avowed communist and have deeply anti views. So, so for me, that's distressing to
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me as a Democrat.
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Jesse Mayor Mamdani gets a lot of media attention because of the theater that he's able to produce. Like the social media. You know, the scene. We talk about advance work. Right. Like, you want to. If you want to try to upstage Trump on America to 15, he's going to Mount Rushmore and he's having fireworks, and you're sitting at a desk and nobody knows that that's George Washington's desk they don't even talk about. Seems like a little awkward to just be. Have people standing behind you that aren't really sure why they're there.
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Yeah. This speech did not live up to the hype. This guy built this thing up like this was the State of the Union on July 4th, and he bombed. I mean, this thing was so boring, so tedious. And then, like, you. Like you said, the lighting was dark, there was no color. You had immigrants standing around them like
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this, like, with a tiny little flag.
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It's like, oh, my God, you could have been so much better because the guy's talented, he has a decent personality. But this thing did not deliver. I felt nothing. You know, at least when other politicians talk, I feel hate, I feel happiness. I feel. I felt empty inside. Maybe it's because he's so young and has literally done nothing before with his life that didn't feel like there was anything behind it. Kind of felt like he was the first Muslim mayor of New York reading a speech written for the first black president. He was trying to be Barack Obama, but Barack Obama, you know, he'd say that stuff was wrong with the country, but then he'd bring you up and then take you higher. This guy brought you here and then took you down. Aesthetically, you're looking at a guy with a beard sitting still like this, surrounded by immigrants, and he's saying, you're racist and we're coming for you. That's how a lot of America saw that speech. So I gotta say something on. Calm down, Mandani.
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All right?
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Relax. No one's afraid of you. We don't like communism, and we're gonna beat it.
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One of my favorite comments this morning was from Matt Whitlock. Joey. And he said that it was a Dependence Day speech, not an Independence Day speech.
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You know what's so funny is he's using. I guess those are naturalized. Recently naturalized citizens stand around him and, well, he's showing off the people who did it the right way to protest getting rid of the people who won't do it the right way. The irony here is the people around him are not under any pressure by the Trump administration to get the hell out of the country. Now, some of their family members, if they're hiding in a closet, may be, but you know what? That's the risk they took. He talks about patriotism. He wants to give his definition of patriotism. He talks about how it's like continuing to challenge the country because you don't like it. It's like, no, bro, patriotism. And the way that we're celebrating it 250 years is being willing to give everything you have, your time, your wealth, your flesh, for this cause, for this country. It's. I mean, you know, who's the last great Democrat? Maybe jfk. You know, ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. Democrat President Harold. You know, but this idea of selflessness, of course, there's a limit to it. Of course. Skeptical of those in power, of you and of wars and things. But there is a moment you can take a break and say what a beautiful country that all those people standing around him, whatever their background and origin, are naturalized citizens. This is a country where you can do that. This is a place that is the most prosperous place of its size and freedom in the world. And you can still get a pass to live here. The fact that it's even available at all is a miracle. It's huge. And what does he want to do? He wants to tell you how bad we are. Because that's a wave they get to ride regardless of how it crashes on the shore. They don't care what it destroys when it lands. It's just they get to ride it to power on the way. I mean, you know, he's not worth but a couple hundred grand. Thankfully, his parents are worth upwards of 10 million. He's not going to, you know, be in a bad spot anytime soon. But, you know, God forbid we see a pattern. Yeah, God forbid you turn your AC down, Harold.
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It's kind of wild. He's 35 years old. He's a Ugandan immigrant. He never held a real job in his life, finds himself the mayor of the most powerful city in the world, sits there and tries to say to Americans, over 250 years, you've not lifted anybody up. How's that?
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You know, I agree with. He was wrong. I agree with Jesse. I'm accustomed to listening to people speak across the political spectrum. Some I agree with, some I disagree with. But I'm always lifted up, even by the ones many, many times by the ones I disagree with. Because I think of the great Ronald Reagan, who oftentimes I was much younger. But I didn't always agree with all of the domestic policy. But when he talked about tearing down walls, when he talked about governments go to war when the price of aggression is cheap, when he talked about the need for us to invest in our future and invest in our military, those were things that could unify the country. You may have some disagreement, but to Jesse's point, he took you where he wanted, then he lifted you up. We lost a great civil rights leader, Jesse Jackson, a few months back. Whether you liked him or didn't like him or agreed or disagreed with him, his speeches tried to lift us all to a better place. That speech, I agree with Jesse. I didn't quite understand where he was going with the speech, if he was going to promote some ideas. And maybe he doesn't have successes. To your point, Dana, there in New York, yet we can say we are doing this in New York. Mr. President, I'm asking and challenging you. If you believe in the greatness of America, if you believe in the majesty of America, if you believe that all men are created equal, then follow this New York initiative that we have. Follow what we're proposing to do with kids. Follow what we're. I thought, Johnny, your point about these are people that did it right? And he's out saying, we want to abolish an organization that I think has been mismanaged. But you don't abolish it. This is an organization, ice, that wants to keep us safe. And if we need to reform it, then we should reform it. I just think on a day like today, a 250th anniversary, I don't mind dissenting voices. In fact, I welcome them. But if you're going to be nothing but a dissenter and a hater, wait till July 5th or 6th.
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Give it a dayann. What he did today as a professional communicator, I imagine that you think it's a little bit like malpractice, what he did. That's not a hard speech to write. Even if you wanted to criticize the country, you could have done it in a different way.
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This was a huge failure. But this is what he's accustomed to. I actually think he was trying to recreate the five. He's the Jesse Waters in the middle. And they figured, let's just triple the number of people. But seriously speaking, he's a creation of social media. He's a creation of living online. Thirty years ago, you would not have a Zora Mandami. You wouldn't have these other crazy people from the squad, they live online. They always have a microphone in their face. And they don't really get a lot of power here in Washington. They're gaining power now. But I think that negative Nellies sell and negativity sells in small bites. It doesn't sell to an optimistic, patriotic America. We tend to elect people, particularly for president, who we see as more optimistic and just more joyful. There's been two exceptions to that since 19, and I just don't think it's going to sell. Also, I just want people to understand the Democratic Party that Harold represented, that I grew up around, it doesn't exist anymore. The Democratic Party is at war with itself. And what is the war? It's not, you want to cut taxes, I want to raise them. It's we need to be less patriotic, more hateful toward America, more socialist leaning. Medicare for all. Not respect the vets in the military, let alone fund them. Not back the blue. Criticize them and anti Israel is the cost of admission. Now. It is a cost of admission. And in addition to being annoyed by all the substantive things they. They say and don't say, I feel like we should have this constitutional memory. We should have this requirement that if you're going to be in Congress, you cannot be staring at your phone to read things other people read. You got to be able to look up and speak to people. So this guy obviously is using notes and a prompter. Look, I'm going to bet on America every time. And to your point, be miserable. July 5th and 6th. I'm worried that these same people are denying 911 and saying it was justified or we deserved it or it didn't happen. It was an inside job. They now want to represent us here in this town, steps away in the US Capitol. That is a complete disgrace. We're on the doorstep of that 25th anniversary. And I want people to think about this. They want to rage against the machine. They want to yell at the man. They're against corporations and bigness. You have to think about what we're doing here. They're not criticizing. They're not criticizing this country in the Constitution, the 56 signers. They're trying to convert this country to something else. They're not disagreeing, which is our right as Americans. They're trying to destroy. That's different.
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I'm thinking about that anniversary, too. It's right around the corner. All right, coming up, a clemency decision that's leaving people stunned. Why did Tim Walls pardon this convicted offender?
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Kisses sweeter than super low Honey, little Bit sweet.
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They let the people back in the party. That's good to see. All right, listen, as we celebrate America at 250 years, you know, it's important to remember that a nation is only as strong as its borders. While President Trump is deporting illegal immigrants convicted of serious crimes, of course Minnesota Governor Tim Wallace is letting them off the hook. Kamala's failed running maid is getting major blowback after pardoning. You got to listen to this. An illegal migrant who was charged with repeatedly sexually assaulting a 10 year old child for years. But Waltz thinks the sicko is ready to re enter society, which is a far cry from what he was saying during the 2024 campaign.
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Pain. My first responsibility is the protection of our children in our communities. This election for the women in this room is literally about their lives.
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Dana, listen, there's some nuance to this story, but not enough for me to go. Okay, yeah, it's okay to let him out. I mean, this guy has admitted to sexually assaulting this 10 year old girl, blamed her, offered her $10 to not talk, and now they're going to let him out.
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Well, he also said not only did he blame her, but he said she was complicit. Right. She was in on it at 10 years old. Right. And then also he said, he tried to say, well, back in our country, you know, that's what we do. I think that's kind of the point that we keep making over and over again. But that's not what we do here. And you want him to come here and if you add this type of a scan, this scandal on top of the fraud that they're finding in Minnesota, in fact, he's already had to walk away from running for governor again. I think his political future is over.
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Jesse, if I read the story correctly, he pleaded guilty to first degree criminal sexual conduct and the article says it spared him from going to prison. So I don't know if he ever actually even went to jail for this. The reason why they're giving him a pardon isn't to let him out of jail. It's to keep him in the country. It's so he doesn't get deported. This is an immigration story. I'm sorry, but if you're in this country and you've admitted to repeatedly raping a 10 year old girl, I really don't want you to have air to breathe, much less be out free on the streets, much less be saved from being deported from this country. I don't care what the circumstances are.
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Yeah. Why is he still here? He was convicted like 20 years ago. Why is he still here? So walls. Disgusting animal. This guy repeatedly and brutally raped a young girl for five straight years. Got caught, confessed, served no jail time, and then just gets to hang out in Minnesota. And then this guy grants him clemency to keep him from being deported. And on the same day they had this clemency hearing, another guy from Laos tried to get off and he was accused of gang raping a 12 year old. So there's multiple guys from Laos in Minnesota who've already been convicted of raping children. Okay, first of all, why are all these people from Southeast Asia in Minneapolis? Well, as Dana mentioned, the guy did say, oh, you know, in my country it's kind of a minor thing. I mean, Southeast Asia is kind of the international capital of child prostitution. After Vietnam, they came here, they all settled here. And now there's more Southeast Asian immigrants at large in Minnesota wanted for child rape. DHS put out the mug shots and they're still hanging around because it's a sanctuary state and this guy's not running for reelection. So this is the pure walls. This guy doesn't have to worry about facing the voters anymore. This is the true guy here. And look what he did. He's protecting a pedophile.
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You know, Harold, one thing that bothers me here is Democrats, their biggest complaint thus far on immigration is oh, but you said you were going to get the worst out first. You said you were going after the murderers and the rapists first. That, you know, you're not doing that. You're taking the abuela as well as the crime ridden ms.13 gang member. That's not a worse first. You know, that's the grandmother. But it's like, you know, you look at Minnesota, 16% of the pardons this board has done from 25 to June 26th. Our immigration has been mentioned like basically to keep them from being deported. I don't know how many of them are hardened criminals, but one is one too many, isn't it? I mean, you can't criticize Trump for not going after only the worst when you're protecting specifically the worst.
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You know, I don't disagree with you. This story to me is not confusing. He should be. I'm one of those Democrats who've said the worst first. And this guy should be, this guy should be escorted out the country. It's important to note, adding to your points that have been made, this nine member board that voted to approve this gentleman's petition in April, only four voted in favor, two voted against and three were absent. So it was not even a majority vote and they allowed this to happen. This is a no brainer. We have too many good people, too many people who are playing by the rules, too many people that were standing behind Mayor Mondami when he gave that speech. He gave who were here legally who played by the rules to allow a person to stay in this country who raped a 10 year old girl. The facts are what the facts are and I hope the governor changes his mind or at least says until he gets a majority vote of this commission to approve the petition, he should not have the right to fight deportation as an American citizen.
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Kellyanne, what's so concerning about this is I understand Harold's point. He says, hey, I'm one of those Democrats. But the problem is, at least on national news and in the public eye, that's the section of Democrats that aren't getting elected anymore. That's the section that are getting, that are losing primaries. I mean you think about Tim Waltz isn't a fringe Democrat. He was the vice presidential candidate for the Democrat Party two years ago. He's not fringe, he's mainstream. Then you look at places like New York and people that say things like I don't even know if prisons should exist or winning primaries and about to be elected to office or to Congress. You know, DHS is right now stepping up its deportations. They've had a five day period of 10,000 deportations. Maybe when we get through criticizing the National Mall the Democrats will be back on criticizing that. I doubt Mark Wayne Mullen is exempt from the same criticism that Christy Noem got. If DHS is doing their job, they're going to continue to try to abolish it.
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DHS going from Alejandro Mayorkas to Mark Wayne McMullen is called a glow up. Mayorkas, Biden, Harris and Tim Waltz were all for these open borders. They let in 11 million illegal immigrants that we know about. That is a number that is higher than the population in 41 states. And just to give you a perspective, 11 million, this is, this was favoring DEI USA. But I want to very quickly focus on the facts of this case. I want people to understand the question here was not castration, incarceration, both of which I would favor given the facts of this case. The question here is whether he gets a pardon so that he's treated like the rest of us folks, that the slate is wiped clean. He now has the freedoms and the rights of the rest of us that are being criticized by the same people Pardoning him on America's 250th birthday. I want people to know who the four were. The chief justice. Look her up. Disgrace. Tim Waltz. Disgrace. Kamala Harris wanted him to be our vice president and he's doing this. I don't want any Democrat to ever again say they're the party of women. They're awful to women. Including this ten year old girl. Not a woman. And Keith Ellison, who's he? He's the chief law enforcement officer of the state of Minnesota. He, he also voted for the pardon when he took the oath of office here, January 3, 2007, almost 20 years ago. He did it on the Koran. He's a terrible example of the left's moving away from the rule of law, coddling criminals, re victimizing victims. And last thing you asked, why did this guy want to live in Minnesota? Well, that may be easy. They're just. We, the Trump administration just revealed all this fraud. $300 million from the child nutrition program. Missing billions of dollars. Medicare, Medicaid money. Missing. The leering center. Hold a call. Vanna White for the end. You didn't have in your sign. All that money is missing. And this, Listen, people have to pay attention. This, this isn't one of those situations of bad things sometimes happen to good people. This happens because bad people are leaders in Minnesota. And allowing this guy to get pardoned, he has the freedoms of everybody around this table.
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I would say a tear if this guy came up missing. All right, coming up, America's birthday has been upstaged by Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce. Lord help. I've been everywhere, man. I've been everywhere, man. Across the deserts bear, man. I breathe the mountain air, man Travel. I've had my share there.
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I've been everywhere. Now I'm blowing Reveland. He's the boogie boogie bugle boy of Company B. They made him blow up Bugle.
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It's America's version of a royal wedding. And according to reports, it's happening right now as we speak. Taylor Swift and Travis Kelsey are currently getting hitched in Madison Square Garden with an all star lineup of celebrities in attendance. But some New Yorkers are fuming, calling Taylor Swift's wedding selfish as it threatens to paralyze traffic in the city amid a busy holiday travel during a brutal heat wave. All right, Joey Jones, I can't imagine you're disappointed you were left off the guest list. These people have a right to get married where they want, when they want. Or should they be a little bit more sensitive?
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I'm so happy that this wedding is happening today because that means tomorrow it's not news anymore. At least I hope so. I couldn't be more excited to get past the next five minutes of talking about it. But I understand some people care. I don't understand why. I think like, when you have enough money, you just don't care and they don't care. And that's fine. Just don't start preaching at me the next time you want to, you know, go against, you know, the senator there in Tennessee or something like she wants to be involved in politics when it will make her popular and benign to
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them when it won't.
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And I don't like people like that.
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Dana Prince William went on the podcast, I guess, or he was interviewed, talking about how he's a fan of the music, but the I guess Buckingham palace confirmed that he and Princess Kate would not be there.
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Yes, well, this is how I would be, you know, so sometimes you get invited to something and you're like, ugh, imagine how many of these people had plans with their families and their traditional Fourth of July party, their America 250, and instead they have to go to New York, which is 110 degrees, to get through security. And they know that everybody in New York City is like, are you serious? Do you know how hard it is to get around here? Anyway, we have FIFA, we have this everything. So I imagine there's a lot of people who ended up going because you have to be there. If you get this invitation, you have to go because then if you don't go to that, you're not going to get the other invitations. So now it's a must do instead of a want to do. However, that said, I'm for people getting married. They seem like a very happy couple and if they inspire others to couple up and maybe have children, I think that would be great.
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Harold I didn't hear Mayor Monda me in the city you call home now complaining about this today. I think the subways are compromised. People feel like their mobility is compromised. And what is truly a very hot three digit day and a busy time.
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Lot of magic has happened in Madison Square Garden, Kellyanne. Over the last month and a half, my Knicks won. I am a New Yorker now. My kids are New Yorkers and I'm with Dana. Love's in the air. They had the money to afford it, God bless them. And I just hope they didn't do anything around the free throw line where Jalen takes his free throw shots.
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Jesse these are two people in love, two very Talented people in their respective industries. But let's face it, we are fans of the other Kelsey.
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Yeah, we like the other brother, but I don't care about the story.
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Because he's an Eagle.
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Yeah. Cause he's an eagle. That's right. I don't care. Let's. We got barbecue coming, right?
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I got barbecue coming. It was a big moment, I gotta say. It was a big moment, though, at the Super Bowl. At the super bowl, where. Where the Birds beat the Chiefs down in New Orleans about a year and a half ago when they showed Taylor Swift on the jumbotron. She wasn't received as well as the President. I think that was a big inflection of. Coming up next, red, white and blue and barbecue. We're firing up a big, beautiful cookout. You won't want to miss it.
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Little stable in there. Welcome back. Well, there's nothing more American than a July 4th barbecue, and we're blessed to have some right here at the table, courtesy of one of my favorites, Rockland's Barbecue, right here. Rockland's Barbecue and grilling right here in D.C. i've been eating for 25 years. According to a new CBS News poll, barbecue ranks as the second most American food, trailing only to hamburgers. Jesse, would you. Would you put cheesesteaks in there? Being from Philly, or are you satisfied with that?
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Yeah, cheesesteaks need to make. But, Harold, this barbecue is good. You got the brisket, you got the chicken, you got the ribs, you got cornbread, and we even have pie here. We have pecan pie, apple pie.
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Nothing's as American as apple pie.
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Harold, this is good eating right here.
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I said I couldn't eat in the heat, but then I ate this chicken, and it's really good.
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DP what's your favorite on the plate so far?
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The watermelon salad and the chicken. That's my two favorites right there.
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Joy, we're from the South. We know this kind of food. What's your thinking? I said, right for the pie.
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I'm halfway through this pecan pie, man. I'm telling you right now.
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Is it a good one?
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That's so good. This is good. I mean, I'm from the south, man. I can sniff it out in a heartbeat. This stuff's good. You gotta put pecans in a pecan pie if you're wondering how to say it right. Just so you know. Oh, pecans and peppers.
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Kellyanne, what's your favorite thing to eat at Rocklands?
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You and I eat this place. I know I get their sides along With. I love their pulled pork and their chicken, but I really love their management. I've used them catering. My son and I walk in there and feast. Walk in. They're really just great. Check it out. If you're ever in Washington, they're a
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good place to be.
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So good.
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What's your favorite?
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This right here is good.
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Hit it.
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That is good.
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Cut me a piece of that off real quick. Let me see. Let me see your skills right here.
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One more thing.
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Who's giving Jesse that knife?
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Come on, give it a whack.
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There we go.
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Make you feel like a man.
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Did I just get you?
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We're all wearing it out.
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Did I get. All right, so before we get to one thing. We have a big, beautiful lineup Tonight for America 250, including special report Anne Hannity from Mount Rushmore.
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That's fun. Wow.
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And yours, Shirley, from the Great American State fair here in D.C. and tomorrow for July 4th, join us at 7 Eastern for America 250, celebrating freedom. All your favorite hosts, including Dana, will be there. Right, Dana, take us off.
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I will be there. Okay. I just had to show you this today in case you didn't see America's Newsroom. So we're live right here on set. We're doing interviews, and all of a sudden these flyovers started. And it scared the bejesus out of me. I think we have video. I know they did that on purpose.
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The power of ideas can only be maybe you.
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Happy Fourth.
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Yeah, it was a good time.
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Who was more scared, you or Dr. Oz?
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Hemmer, for sure.
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All right, well, we got flyovers, we got fireworks, we got Mount Aetna erupting. Look at that. That's not Mount Etna. There is out. There she is thar she blows on Aetna. Putting on quite a show. Rivers of glowing lava stream down Europe's largest active volcano. My parents were just there. And looks like they missed the show. Bad timing, Steve. Tonight, Jesse Waters, primetime Live from the Great American State Fair.
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Harold Ford, exciting America250 project America's time capsule is underway. This casing is set to be buried tomorrow at the Independence National Historic park in Philadelphia. It will hold letters, artifacts, cultural treasures from all 56 states and territories, all three branches of government. It will preserve a snapshot of our country at its 205th anniversary for America's in 2276.
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Would they put an iPhone in there?
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Oh, probably.
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Ann. Oh, no, Joey, I'm sorry.
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Respond either way, I'm a gentleman. All right, what do we got here? Listen, one of the biggest maritime celebrations in American history is underway. We got warships, towering ships coming in from all over the world. Actually 80 military historic vessels are going to fill the harbor up there in New York as part of the celebration, including that 149 year old ship Alyssa, built in 1870.
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Podcast: The Five
Date: July 3, 2026
Location: The Great American State Fair, Washington, D.C.
Hosts: Jesse Watters, Kellyanne Conway, Harold Ford Jr., Dana Perino, Joey Jones
This special July 4th eve episode of "The Five" is broadcast live from the Great American State Fair in Washington, D.C., as America prepares to mark its 250th birthday. The co-hosts discuss the meaning of the milestone, political and cultural rifts over American patriotism, responses to criticisms of the country, Democratic infighting, controversial clemency decisions, media spectacle around the Taylor Swift/Travis Kelce wedding, and classic Fourth of July traditions. The tone is celebratory but punctuated by pointed political debate.
Timestamps: 00:05 – 08:43
Opening Scene & Flyover Reaction: The fair is described as a massive celebration, including epic military flyovers, though some in the press (notably the New York Times) complain about the spectacle.
Critique of Democratic Dourness: Jesse Watters and Dana Perino highlight a perceived refusal by Democrats to join the patriotic celebration, characterizing their mood as “dour” and “defeatist.”
Opportunity & Optimism: Kellyanne Conway and Joey Jones credit President Trump for optimism and prosperity, referencing record stock market highs and expanded opportunity.
Critical Voices: Harold Ford Jr. acknowledges America’s imperfections but urges unity and constructive improvement rather than division.
Joey Jones’ Rebuke: Jones harshly criticizes Rep. Hank Johnson’s incendiary comments about America, labeling them divisive and out of touch.
Timestamps: 12:51 – 22:59
Mayor Zoran Mamdani’s Speech: The panel reacts to New York City Mayor Zoran Mamdani’s “America at 250” address, which focused on inequality, oligarchs, and systemic contradiction.
Performance Critique: Panelists fault Mandani's tone and delivery, calling the speech uninspiring and overly negative in contrast to traditional patriotic rhetoric.
Democratic Party Split: Co-hosts debate the future of the party, with Joey Jones and Kellyanne Conway lamenting that “old-school Democrats” are losing ground to the far left. Conway accuses party leaders of being “negative Nellies” and prioritizing anti-American sentiment.
Debate on Patriotism: Several hosts contrast Mandani’s rhetoric with inspiring American speeches of the past, such as JFK and Ronald Reagan, which challenged Americans but aimed to uplift.
Timestamps: 23:28 – 31:48
Focus on Pardoned Offender: The panel reacts with outrage to Minnesota Governor Tim Walz’s decision to pardon an undocumented immigrant convicted of years-long child sexual abuse, arguing that the move is more about avoiding deportation than rehabilitation.
Hypocrisy Accusation: Panelists highlight what they see as inconsistencies in Democratic immigration policy: “worst first” rhetoric versus actions that seemingly protect the most egregious offenders.
Condemnation of Minnesota Leadership: Kellyanne calls out state politicians and connects the decision to broader accusations about Democratic leadership and loss of respect for rule of law.
Harold Ford Jr. Dissent: Ford sides with his co-hosts, saying the pardon was wrong and calling for only law-abiding immigrants to remain in the country.
Timestamps: 32:09 – 35:14
Timestamps: 36:01 – 39:32
Timestamps: 39:32 – End
Jesse Watters (01:43):
“Even as America celebrates 250 years of greatness, Democrats are still determined to tell you it's a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad place and that they'd rather be in communist Cuba.”
Dana Perino (03:33):
“Life is a decision making experience and their choice is they're not going to enjoy this time... You have the pursuit of happiness.”
Joey Jones (08:46):
“If that's the message you have for Americans today, you're the worst this country has to offer.”
Harold Ford Jr. (06:44):
“The revolution is an unfinished revolution because we're constantly striving, constantly trying to be better.”
Kellyanne Conway (20:42):
“The Democratic Party is at war with itself... They’re not disagreeing, which is our right as Americans. They're trying to destroy. That's different.”
Jesse Watters (15:22):
“Kind of felt like he was the first Muslim mayor of New York reading a speech written for the first black president. He was trying to be Barack Obama, but Barack Obama... would bring you up and then take you higher. This guy brought you here and then took you down.”
Kellyanne Conway (29:47):
“Mayorkas, Biden, Harris and Tim Walz were all for these open borders. They let in 11 million illegal immigrants that we know about. That is a number that is higher than the population in 41 states.”
The episode is both a spirited celebration of American resilience and a contentious roundtable on current political and cultural fault lines. The hosts blend personal nostalgia, sharp critique, and humor, aiming to rally listeners around America's 250th birthday while scrutinizing those who, in their view, fail to appreciate or protect the nation’s core values.
For listeners curious about the state of American debate on its semiquincentennial, this episode serves as a lively chronicle of celebration—and a real-time snapshot of the conversations defining Independence Day 2026.