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Emily Compagno
Hello everyone, I'm Emily Compagno along with Harold Ford Jr. Jesse Waters, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Hold.
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Emily Compagno
Back, hold back, get back. More anti ice madness. Violent clashes erupting between immigration officers and a left wing mob outside a San Francisco courthouse. The protesters were attempting to block the arrest of an immigrant already in ICE custody. Inside the building, the lunatics could later be seeing flinging their bodies onto the hood of a black suv. It's just the latest in a disturbing string of assaults on federal law enforcement. And yet the Democrats rising star Jasmine Crockett actually thinks MAGA are the violent ones.
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And the violence doesn't come from Democrats, just to be clear. I mean obviously anyone can be a criminal, but it is maga. It's specifically MAGA faction. Like I don't think traditional Republicans are getting engaged in all of this. But like even when we look at and they don't talk about the assassination attempts anymore that took place with Donald Trump. But these, these were Trump supporters.
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Emily Compagno
Well, Jasmine Crockett must have missed the story about how Democrat voters are demanding a pound of flesh. They want to see lawmakers get shot while resisting President Trump. Top Democrat leader Hakeem Jeffries couldn't even muster the courage to condemn the violent rhetoric with when confronted about it.
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Greg Gutfeld
How do you respond to that, Leader Jeffries?
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Greg Gutfeld
Well, we are in a more is more environment in terms of the unprecedented assault on the American way of life in our country that has been launched.
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Harold Ford Jr.
By Donald Trump and compliant House Republicans.
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Emily Compagno
Harold, he was given a gimme to throw some water on the fire, and instead he threw some gasoline on it.
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Greg Gutfeld
I think he was wrong. Any politician first, it's good to be back around the table, good to see everyone. When politicians don't take opportunities to lower the temperature, even when you think the temperature is being raised or you're on the right side of the increased temperature, you always have to condemn violence. I think a lot of this energy is really misallocated. It's misplaced. There's no doubt that there are a group of people in the country, a lot of perhaps a larger or growing group of people in the country, who don't like the hierarchy of deportations that are being enacted. But this is not the way to conduct yourself. I said yesterday, when Jesse, in his very eloquent and lengthy introduction yesterday, in his first statement, he talked about the president and President Xi, echoed and supported President Trump's position that we should punish with harsher penalties those who attack law enforcement. I think the same should be. Should be for anyone that attacks a politician. But I would agree with you, Mr. Jeffries. Should have. Should have condemned that. I'll tell you, it was interesting. Just one last. It was interesting to hear some of the. Not specifically on this issue, but as I listened to last night, President Trump and even this morning said that we were going to impose a 50% tariff on Brazilian products because they are. He wants them to stop the trial of the former president of Brazil. And I think all of this stuff is just wrong. It's more wrong when you're not condemning this kind of violence. But I think when we, when people in politics do things that are really kind of unorthodox, Emily, I think it unfortunately, is a catalyst for awful things happening. And Mr. Jeffries, I hope he comes back and I hope he. I hope he corrects himself and says that I condemn this violence, and it's not in any way justifiable.
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Emily Compagno
Jesse, let's talk about the media for a second. So SFGate, which is like the Bay Area Bible, described this, this altercation. They said it was aggressive, and they said it was deeply troubling. They showed protesters being shoved by ICE agents. But isn't the aggression, the attacks on ice.
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ICE has to go harder, Emily. I'm not advocating for police brutality, but you can't have a tug of war with a bicycle against trans. It makes ICE look weak and it makes transit look strong. The minute they start resisting and obstructing, you have to arrest these people. You have to put them like this, hands behind the back, headlock, knee to the back, get them down on the ground and get them the heck out of there. These little standoffs, these little skirmishes, only empower transifa. It's like being in a ring with Tyson, right? You survive one round, all right? You survive two rounds, you start getting your confidence up. You cannot let these guys get confidence. I saw the other day video of two ICE agents going after one migrant. And the migrant did the drunk dead body, where, you know, you go limp. And it's impossible for a grown man to be pulled out, even by two grown men when you go limp. And so he's surrounded by other guys filming him. And then one guy has to leave dragging the migrant, and he has to address the guy filming. They need backup. I don't know if it's the Marines. I don't know if it's locals, marshals, whoever. They needed to get the bbb. Big beautiful Bill, I think doubles or almost triples these agents manpower. And this cannot come soon enough. There's supposed to be a big showdown at Alligator Alcatraz. You have people all over the Internet saying they're going to go down there, they're going to get, like, you know, half eaten by an alligator because they believe in these migrants. They don't even know these migrants are drug traffickers and child rapist. They don't care. They're just manifestations of Trump. And they've been looking for someone to fight all their life. And they're basically guys in a MAGA hat, except they have ICE vests. So anytime they can take a shot, they're going to take a shot.
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Emily Compagno
Yeah. And, Dana, okay, elected officials. So the District 9 supervisor there in San Francisco, the deeply troubling quote that was him saying, it's deeply troubling that we saw an ICE agent take out a rifle. But again, isn't it deeply troubling that he needed to take out a rifle during the course of his official duties?
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Dana Perino
Well, it is strange where you could look at a situation as an observer and say, okay, to me, obviously we have a problem in San Francisco. If. And all of these sanctuary cities, if they would just cooperate, they wouldn't have to have these situations if they dealt with the detainers. We talked about yesterday, the fact that you have Hakeem Jeffries, who is not a forceful leader. He's like from the Kamala Harris school of leadership, which is basically just to go along, to get along and just like, not have any problems. And now, even when they're talking about these socialists primary and some of his candidates is like, yeah, I haven't heard about that. He can't say, that won't work. And I'm going to beat you and don't you dare. And you have some muscle behind it. So the other thing about this is that you have local officials saying things like that. It's actually only making President Trump stronger. I was thinking about my favorite game, Pac Man. So President Trump's just going along, he's eating the dots and then all of a sudden he's like, oh, okay, I'll get an extra man. Oh, and I'll take this. And every single one of these protests, he gets a little bit stronger and a little bit stronger. I'm not saying there isn't opposition and there isn't aren't people who think, wow, this is a little too heavy handed. We are starting to hear from a few more of them. But what Hakeem Jeffries and the Democrats aren't doing, or District nine, you know what, why don't we go to the President with three asks and these will be our three asks and we can say, Mr. President, can we talk to you about these three things? Just have the meeting. At least then you can say, wow, he wouldn't even listen to us. But we all know that's not true. There is a possibility that he would. He wants to be able to solve problems. And if local officials are on the front lines of government, then maybe take a chance and go meet Pac Man.
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Emily Compagno
Greg, you know what I was thinking about?
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Harold Ford Jr.
What?
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Emily Compagno
Tell me both from the Bay Area. Do you remember after Larry Singleton maimed and almost.
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Dana Perino
Yes.
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Emily Compagno
So they, when he was let out of prison for a hot second, all the communities rallied together. They protest, said, you're not letting him out here. He's a monster. They literally forced the sheriff to put him back, that he had to be extradited to Florida because no California community would accept the monster. And now we're seeing the Bay Area communities doing that, rallying to protect the monster. They are chaining themselves to the wall to protect the monsters that need to be eradicated.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Well, I mean, so why is this happening? I kind of mentioned it a few days ago. There's this enormous gaslighting that the right has endured for decades that were the problem that we're the violent rednecks. It's a stereotype in tv, but we're trying to make the country less violent. And it's actually happening. You're watching lower murder rates nationwide and they call us the rabble, but the people that are calling us violent, the crockets of the world. They are the instrumental in the crime waves by, you know, reducing sentences, early release, no cash bail, a weak border. We're trying to fight that. And yet we're the violent ones. This stereotype turned into government policy when Dark Brandon decided to devote resources to secret white supremacist groups in the military. Of course, when they found none, no one said a thing. But, you know, maybe Biden watched too many movies, but I doubt he can work a tv. But the left has always benefited from this, this portrayal of the right as simmering from. Simmering with violence when the truly violent has always been the left wing radical who has been portrayed as this romantic, earnest revolutionary. If you examine the periods of, say, civil unrest, if you want to call it that, from the late 60s to the late 70s, the violence was almost solely left wing. The Weather Underground, Earth first, remember, Earth First, Black Panthers, sla, Manson, People's Temple. Angela Davis was a folk hero. And, and then, then you can go all the way forward to the multiple attacks against police later. But the fact is they portray the right as somehow the dangerous ones, where basically all we're doing is wanting to protect ourselves and protect our families. What is it about that that makes them so violent? Harold, in your face.
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Greg Gutfeld
Timothy McVeigh. The assassins of King and Medgar Evers. I mean, it's bipartisan. I don't, I'm not. I think it's. It's all right.
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Harold Ford Jr.
It's not bad.
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Greg Gutfeld
Hate and violence.
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Harold Ford Jr.
It's not. They always bring up McVeigh because that's the exception, but it proves the rule.
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Greg Gutfeld
But anyway, it's bipartisan. Minnesota. The guy from Minnesota is Republican.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I accept your apology.
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Greg Gutfeld
I accept your admission.
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Emily Compagno
Coming up next, Michelle Obama isn't helping Democrats with their man problem. Stay with us.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Where is he?
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Greg Gutfeld
They've been erased from the culture. We've just erased them. You don't exist. No one sees you, no one cares about you. You want a cold beer, you want a hamburger, and you want to watch the football game. No, no, you can't do that. Not football, beer, no. You shouldn't be drinking a nice fruit spritzer or something and like, oh, get off of my back. Right. And then if you have sex, you must wear a condom.
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Harold Ford Jr.
What woman are she referring to that are invisible?
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Dana Perino
Seriously, she's the most popular woman in the world.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah, and from what I mean, give us an example of an invisible woman. Look, I hate to tell the Dems, you can't just assume that you can take us back because that assumes that you can change your opinion of us. You know, all of a sudden you're going to reject all the misandry and the trans hysteria and all those narratives that not only made fun of male values, but objectively normal values. You want men and women to be okay with women and women showering with men in locker rooms or drag queens reading to kids at libraries. How do you change that if that's who you are? I mean, if you don't like men, how can you suddenly decide not to like them? I tried that with Jodie Foster. I think you're asking too much of yourself. Because the moment you say, hey, guys, come back and we do, within 10 minutes, we're gonna say something that violates your strict code of intolerant tolerance or break wind. It's ingrained in you to police thought and speech. You can't go from that to live and let live. And the funny thing about it, their definition of tolerance is the opposite of live and let live. You know, it's, I compel you to accept my lifestyle publicly. All guys, almost all guys are the same. We want to be left alone, especially right wing dudes. You think a farmer In Idaho gives two Fs about your pronoun. We're not even going to bother you about it. Just don't bother us. That's. I just don't think you can change. I don't think liberals can actually suddenly take off this costume of misandry and go, hey, come back. How is that possible?
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Dana Perino
I think this is something that's been building for a long time. It didn't just happen in the last four years. So if you remember, during the Obama administration, we had the life of Julia. Do you remember this?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
This was the government policy. It was like a whole outlook that they talked about Julia and how Julia will be taken care of by the government from when she was born all the way up until she was retired and beyond. And they didn't. There was no life of Jack. There was no life of Jack and Julia. It was just the life of Julia. And the focus on women has been to the exclusion of men. And this even, maybe even goes back further, especially when it came to. Even when I was growing up in the 70s and 80s, where I remember my dad bought me this T shirt. It was yellow and it had black, all caps that said, anything boys can do, girls can do better. I know that's not true, but there was a time when there was a push to help girls have more confidence. That has helped in a lot of ways, but it was to the exclusion of boys. I remember Laura Bush when she was first lady, early on, she was like, we have to, as a country, start focusing more on boys in K through 12 education. And so it was building for a long time. The Democrats were going to have to deal with this. There was never a cost to them turning on men until suddenly there was. So I don't know what they're going to do to me, if you look at Zoran Mamdani, he's basically promising the moon and the stars for free to everybody. I mean, I don't know who's going to buy that. There will be some men that do, but if that's the direction that the Democratic Party is going, because Hakeem Jeffries can't seem to say anything else, then they might be in the wilderness for quite a while.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Come on, man. This is live tv. You can't hit on her now.
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Emily Compagno
Oh, my God. Well, I think that the argument like that's that's what Trump did, right? He just saw women. He just respected women.
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Greg Gutfeld
Switch seats here.
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Emily Compagno
Stop it.
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Greg Gutfeld
This is ridiculous.
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Emily Compagno
All right, so here's the thing. So in this, in this whole article and, like, assessment, they supposedly talked to all these experts about what went wrong and how they ignored these, the guys, right? And they called it a blind spot. They said, what a massive voter blind spot. But it wasn't a blind spot. They excommunicated them. They said, we ignored them. This time around, you didn't ignore them. You rejected and expelled and vilified men. They created an epidemic of eunuchs and a world where Dylan Mulvaney was the face of Budweiser and Lia Thomas was nominated by UPENN to be the NCAA Woman of the Year. They literally recreated her land. And here's the thing. The left saw just simple masculinity as toxic, obviously, and hyper. All of this analysis, whenever they refer to masculinity, they say hyper masculinity. And the whole point is that Trump and the GOP just respected masculinity, just respected women and actually went to protect biological women. So the whole thing is everything on the left sees everything as so magnified, you know, an American flag. Oh, you must be a redneck, terrible, violent person. Oh, you like to be masculine. You must be terrible instead of just respect a normal person.
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Greg Gutfeld
Look, I think James Carville says things in ways that really not only get people's attention, but really makes you think. Democrats forgot in many ways in 2024. And I agree with Dane, it's been building for some time that every voter wants to be lifted up. Men, in many ways, were the swing voters in this election. His team, President Trump's team, looked at the data and said that we lost men from 16 to 20. We got to grow that number. So they did what the other campaign didn't do. They respected them. Men. They lifted men up. I don't agree, I don't necessarily agree that we can't get them back. I never thought I would see a presidential election where the Cheney's endorsed the Democrat and the Kennedy, a prominent Kennedy, would endorse a Republican and didn't work in his administration. And then we elect a president who's a Republican, who's pro tariff, pro union and pro entitlement spending. So things can change in Politics. But I'd say to Democrats, remember this as you think about this, women who are Democrats, they bear children and they raise little boys to be young men. So when we attack men, women who have children, who have little boys, like my wife and many others, they understand what it means to raise a little boy. And they want their young men and the men in their families to be respected and not to be belittled. That doesn't mean they want them coddled, but they don't want them disrespected. And that's what we did.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Men can't have babies.
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Greg Gutfeld
I am saying I want to be affirmative about that.
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Dana Perino
At the same time, dads want their girls to not have to compete against men in sports.
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Greg Gutfeld
No doubt about that.
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Dana Perino
And that's what I'm just saying that, like, if you add all of this stuff up, it was like, where else were they supposed to go?
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Harold Ford Jr.
But I got to disagree with you, Harold. Men don't want to be lifted up. We want to be left alone. We don't want to be pandered to. I don't think the pants. I think the Dems look at everything as groups and then they pander to them.
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Greg Gutfeld
That's different points. I don't disagree with you. Now, we do play too much identity politics, but men certainly don't want to be belittled. Men want, men want. Like women want good jobs. Women want. Men want their boys and their girls to be raised in safe communities and safe houses. I mean, I agree with you. I think those are two different points.
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Greg Gutfeld
I mean, we like to be given.
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Harold Ford Jr.
She's right there.
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Greg Gutfeld
Look at Jesse. Look at Jesse's hair. You know, he looks good.
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And that was really smart what you just said, Harold. I would like to hear more of that coming from you. Good job. Up next, the big guys doc, cover up. Kevin coughs up the fifth on Joe Biden.
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Greg Gutfeld
I contemplated and then concluded she was rough. And I anticipated getting nothing but.
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Dana Perino
An.
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Greg Gutfeld
Accused rapist murderer from the Fox News Podcasts network.
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Dana Perino
Hey there, it's me, Kennedy.
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Harold Ford Jr.
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Dana Perino
Kennedy Saves the World. It is five days a week, every week, week, download and listen@fox newspodcast.com or wherever you listen to your favorite podcast. While he's prescribing the fifth, former Biden physician Kevin o'. Connor. Dodging every question but his name, he invoked the constitutional right 14 times in 20 minutes to a congressional oversight committee. They grilled him about Biden's health and fitness for office.
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Dana Perino
And paging Dr. Spin jasmine crockett, defending the former president and turning the tables.
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Emily Compagno
None.
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Greg Gutfeld
None.
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I had none. Now, granted, I didn't see Joe Biden every single day, but I did have an opportunity to interact with the President. I never had a concern. If there's anyone that I am concerned about their mental acuity, it is the current occupant.
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Dana Perino
All right, Emily. The fifth is a right that's in the Constitution. And one of the things that happened that Biden did not provide the Trump appointees executive privilege after January six and those investigations. So the Democrats, once again, they broke a norm, and now they've had turnabout. Is it fair play?
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Emily Compagno
It is. And look, he came in there saying, it's alarming and it's unprecedented that I'm being called in here. And he tried to invoke the patient client immunity. And then the president's like, don't worry about that. We got you. So then all of a sudden, he's invoking his constitutionally protected Fifth Amendment right. And the reality is that I think legally and to attorneys, they're like, oh, yes, yes, we totally understand, and it's strategic. But the public perception is always that you're hiding something. And everyone sort of said at the time, none of these questions in any way are about that. So it just makes you look guilty. I feel like Jasmine Crockett's point, which you went on to talk about, was that he could have his medical license withdrawn or, you know, taken away if he actually does answer any of this stuff. I mean, it's on the chopping block for a lot worse reasons. And the questions actually should have been about, did you take the PSA levels? Why not? It's in his bones now. It's on you. So at the end of the day, I think him doing it for everything is what made him look so bad in the public eye, because he wasn't actually listening to the questions. I think it would have been pretty easy to say, no one told me to lie about the president's health. And then we at least would have been satiated in that moment.
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Dana Perino
And also, you can't. I would imagine, Jess, you can't be prosecuted for your observations about somebody.
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This isn't a criminal investigation into this doctor. It's an investigation into the use of the auto pen. So when he says, oh, doctor, patient relationship, well, he was asked, did anybody ever tell you to falsify medical records? And he pled the fifth. That doesn't have anything to do with the doctor patient relationship. And usually people don't plead the fifth when there's no criminal liability. He's not facing criminal liability here. I understand. Doctor, patient relationship. I would protect it if someone was to ask Dr. Siegel about my medical history. I would do everything possible to murder Dr. Siegel, and then I would burn the records. We had Comer talking about burning records on last night, and he said that he's been trying to subpoena some of these medical records or many records about Joe Biden, and they don't exist. And he suggested that all of these documents disappeared. Like maybe the Biden people may have taken them when they left in January, because the Trump people.
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Dana Perino
I guess the other thing, Harold, is the question of basically if the White House doctor every year after the physical says he's fit, you can do the job no problem. That's like, basically that that's the job, is that the concern is that if it turns out not to be true, he would be in trouble.
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Greg Gutfeld
So I have a very different opinion, you guys. I think this is a complete waste of time by this committee. I think when you're getting into the physician patient privilege, it's pathetic and tragically partisan. The American people decided last year after hearing questions raised by many around this table, rightly so, about President Biden's cognitive abilities and his ability to do the job, guess what we decided to do? We decided not to elect him, and we rejected his vice president as well. There was a lot that went on during that process. And then when the country saw President Biden in that debate with President Trump, it became painfully clear that he was not fit to run for president. The next time to ask a doctor to come and violate a physician patient privilege, you open the door for a whole range of things. Not only Dr. C, but whom else did this doctor see in the White House? What other presidents? What other staffers? Whom are their records now fair game? Because James Comer and a group of partisans in the Congress want to see this. We have elections to resolve these things. Now, if indeed you believe the auto pin was used in a way that was illegal, then calling the president and calling others. Don't call in this doctor I got.
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Greg Gutfeld
It's their right. And it probably doesn't, but it's their right.
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But it looks terrible.
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Greg Gutfeld
Right, but to call the doctor. And you made my point. You made it, I think, in a funny and a serious way. Why call the doctor? And the doctor, I'll remind you, President Trump's doctor in the first term sent out letters saying that the president was in great, great help. He probably is, and I hope and pray that he is. What Congress should do is pass a law demanding that the President of the United States take a cognitive test every year and that it be released to Congress and to the public. And if the doctor come before they had carve that out. But to call this doctor in is just petty, silly, and it's just so partisan.
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Well, if the doctor knew this guy wasn't up to it and then someone else had the auto pen and they were signing stuff that now is law of the land, then that law of the land is now bunk. That's gone, Harold. And that's what this is about.
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Greg Gutfeld
What if we call back doctors who saw President Reagan and doctors who saw President H.W. bush and doctors back in the'80s?
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Greg Gutfeld
Right, but what if there were auto pins that made. But, Jesse, I just think you're opening a door here that I don't think you want to open.
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Dana Perino
The doctor is not in. The doctor is out.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Well, I don't trust any doctor with hair like that. Let's be honest. I mean, that's the elephant in the room. He looks. It looks like. What is that alfalfa from Little Rascals? I don't know what it is. It's very frightening. There's something clearly wrong with him. I get the doctor patient relationship. I'm with Jesse. If Dr. Siegel ever talked about what went on over in his changing room, I'd be in big trouble. But we also have a right to know the truth. The leader of our free country who was in charge of the nuclear football had a brain as broken as Jerry Nadler's lawn chair. We, I mean, we were lied to. The story is bigger. The doctor is but one variable here. This is a bigger story than him. He was chosen for his obedience. That's obvious. But there I want to know about the people who ran the COVID up. And even more than that, because I accept the COVID up from Democrats. That's what they do. The Journalists that covered this up. That's who I care about. But they can't investigate themselves. Why be your own hangman? We need an independent body to investigate the journalistic industry, or what's left of it. Because I want to know. I want everybody. I want them. Frog marched into the sea, Harold. Frog barked into the sea. Who do they.
- [30:18]
Greg Gutfeld
Who should they call when they do an investigation on the Epstein files? Who's the first witness?
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Harold Ford Jr.
I don't know.
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Greg Gutfeld
Evidently, there was no black list. That's what I heard. That's what. Mr.
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Greg Gutfeld
Okay. Or the. Whatever. You know, the list.
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Dana Perino
I'm going to let them continue in the break. Up next, you can now blame Kamala's gut for Tim Walls.
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Greg Gutfeld
Ey. Hey, I'm Trey Gy, host of the Trey Gaddy podcast. I hope you will join me every Tuesday and Thursday as we navigate life together and hopefully find ourselves a little bit better on the other side. Listen and follow now@fox newspodcast.com.
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Harold Ford Jr.
No cocaine, I don't wanna I don't wanna Go insane way in my brain no cocaine I don't wanna I don't wanna. It's the gut check that was a train wreck. According to the latest book about Biden, Kamala went with her gut to pick tampon Tim Waltz as her running mate. She could have went with Pennsylvania governor Josh Shapiro, but she dismissed Josh as, quote, Jewish. No, I'm kidding. She said. She said overly ambitious. But we know what that means, right? We're also learning how Kamala gave an interview.
- [31:46]
Greg Gutfeld
Jewish.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Is he really? Anyway, Kamala also gave an interview so bad, the host had no choice but to 86 the footage. I'm gonna go.
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Greg Gutfeld
Her take was that bad?
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Harold Ford Jr.
It was really, really bad.
- [32:01]
Greg Gutfeld
It was bacon as a spice. Bacon as a spice.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Harold. It doesn't matter that her husband was Jewish. They didn't want to have a Jewish running mate because it would upset certain factions in the Democratic party. Overly ambitious, you say? I say smush.
- [32:20]
Greg Gutfeld
The only people who've chosen Jewish candidates on their ticket have been Democrats. Al Gore did it. And so all this one example.
- [32:33]
Harold Ford Jr.
Great job.
- [32:34]
Greg Gutfeld
What's yours?
- [32:35]
Harold Ford Jr.
Give me three.
- [32:36]
Greg Gutfeld
Here's the reason we talk about how we don't want the language to escalate. We should not make. I know you're joking, but some people may not understand. I mean, that's the only reason I make this now to your question, the seriousness of it. If we wrote books over the last 15 presidential cycles about how campaigns went, we would know. We've done it now since really the McCain Palin cycle. But you got a flood of books now coming. You get to hear all these insights, but here's what comes the common denominator of the books that have been written. The candidate who lost never connected with the American people. With the trend that was underway, this was a change election. And Kamala Harris could not figure out how to distinguish herself from Joe Biden. When she went on the View and a friendly group of people and they asked her a question, what would you do differently? And she couldn't answer the question. I don't care whom she chose as her running mate. She lost the race. I think at that moment she was probably trending in a decent to good direction. And at that moment she lost. And she could have chosen Josh Shapiro, who I think is one heck of a candidate, one heck of a governor may make one heck of a candidate going forward, but with if it didn't matter, the top of the ticket is what matters.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I'll tell you why she didn't pick him. Dana, we discussed this theory. The Democrat candidate always chooses a pick. Chooses a choice that is a less competent sidekick so you don't get thrown aside or upstage. So Obama. Obama picks Joe. Joe picks Kamala. Kamala picks Tim Waltz. And if Tim Waltz had won, he would have to pick like a jar of pimento olives.
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Dana Perino
It's worse than that because remember in the first block you were talking about how Democrats go after certain groups. Biden didn't want Kamala. James Clyburn said, you will pick Kamala because she is this.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yes.
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Dana Perino
And then she said, I'm gonna pick Tim Walls because he's gonna help me with men.
- [34:34]
Harold Ford Jr.
Right.
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Dana Perino
And that didn't work.
- [34:35]
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
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Dana Perino
And this is the other thing that really bothers me about her and the girls. I'm sure everybody that watches this show knows this. Always pick the person that is going to work for you and with you that is smarter than you always do that.
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Harold Ford Jr.
It's so hard for me to.
- [34:50]
Greg Gutfeld
Guys should do that too.
- [34:53]
Dana Perino
If you're the smartest person in the room, get a different room.
- [34:55]
Harold Ford Jr.
Exactly, exactly. You don't know how hard that is for me, Emily. Every day. What say you? What about this podcast where they like they did her a favor and didn't air it. No one would do that to Trump. They would air it, of course.
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Emily Compagno
And nothing shocks us anymore with the revelations of like, oh, bacon is a spice. Of course, added on again. She didn't pass the bar the first time. Whatever. Look, it's not about picking someone who was Jewish. It was just, could the campaign not be anti Semitic? Could they come out and condemn anti Semitism? That would have been great. What I love about this is in this, you know, after action report of how they analyzed her decision. Like, the gall of Governor Shapiro saying, oh, I want to sort of know my position description. What are the lines here? Like that was apparently abrasive and sort of usurped her authority. And then Tim Walls rolling in, admitting he would suck in the debate, saying, like, yeah, I don't really know him very much. I would do very poorly, but that's the guy. And the way the assessment was that, oh, it's just folksiness, it's bordering on imprecise with facts. Factual imprecision. No, it's called lying. And that's the one they went. Because they don't understand the concept that you surround yourself with people better than you. So you rise to the occasion. Obviously not everyone less than you, Jesse.
- [36:06]
Harold Ford Jr.
Maybe she just wanted to lose.
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I think she wanted to win. But she wanted tampon. Because Shapiro came in and she asked her to mix him a drink. Did you hear that? He goes, yeah, I'll have a water. And he was like, yeah, bring me a water. And then. And then he was like, you know what? I don't like being bossed around, so this probably isn't going to work. And then when he leaves the interview, like 24 hours later, he pulls out and was like, yeah, I'm really not interested.
- [36:33]
Dana Perino
He's definitely smarter. Cuz he realized if he hitched his wagon to her, it was gonna be over for him.
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Greg Gutfeld
I'm not gonna let my party get in that campaign. She was the hecklers that came to those rallies. We talked about it. You had people from saying that they were too close to Jewish Americans and she told them all to shut up. So to say that the Democratic Party, somebody knows anti Jewish is just completely factually unfounded.
- [37:06]
Harold Ford Jr.
All right, Harold.
- [37:07]
Greg Gutfeld
I don't like.
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- [37:09]
Greg Gutfeld
Can we do it again?
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Greg Gutfeld
Bassist.
- [37:12]
Harold Ford Jr.
Up next.
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Harold Ford Jr.
What you want to do is save hundreds.
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Greg Gutfeld
That was not fake. A 6C style fake AI band called the Velvet Sundown is blowing up on Spotify with over 1 million monthly listeners. Now, I'm. I'm thrilled and intrigued by all the benefits AI is going to bring. But does this not bother you a little bit, you and I being the music fans that we are, Greg?
- [38:19]
Harold Ford Jr.
Well, AI is probably better than Maroon 5. And I mean, Taylor Swift is more AI than AI. I kid, I kid. She's very talented for a six. But one of the things that you find appealing in life is imperfection. It's like when you look at paintings. Like Mona Lisa doesn't actually look like an actual woman. If you actually saw Mona Lisa walking down the street, it freaked the hell out of you. But AI's perfectionism on when it's doing something, whether it's music or food or women, anything is gonna feel weird to us. Cuz we strive for the imperfections.
- [38:56]
Greg Gutfeld
You and I once said if we could pick three bands we'd see for the rest of our lives. And you and I had one. Parliament Funkadelic. Parliament can't be that. Music can't be AI. It can't touch you like AI.
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You need to sweat, you need the cocaine, you need everything. But Harold, if they could extract all of my brilliant commentary for the last eight years on the show and do that for everybody around the table and then have an AI generated five, we could just go home. But we could still get paid.
- [39:24]
Harold Ford Jr.
No, they don't get paid.
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Dana Perino
They're gonna get gone.
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No, no, no, because we would sell all of the commentary to the algorithm. That's how this works.
- [39:31]
Greg Gutfeld
I'll do this while you talk. I'll explain to him. Dana, what are your points?
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Dana Perino
I am concerned about it and I think that the human ability to express themselves, ourselves is key. But this is happening. But here's one thing. The five turns 14 tomorrow. And we are here to tell you we will always be real.
- [39:49]
Harold Ford Jr.
I need to get a paper just.
- [39:50]
Dana Perino
To protect our jobs.
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Greg Gutfeld
Emily. Emily, your comments on this, to close us out.
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Emily Compagno
This is sort of like the 2025 version of we Are the World and the back in the day collabs where everyone would come together and it sort of would like suck and be crazy, but also awesome. At the same time. But the whole point is this is perfect. It's an amalgamation of the entire Internet. So it's perfect because it's the best of everything. That band has the contributions of every single band in the 60s to create it.
- [40:17]
Dana Perino
Do you get what I'm saying?
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- [40:19]
Harold Ford Jr.
I hope they overdose on AI Heroin.
- [40:22]
Emily Compagno
Look at their skin. Their skin is too flawless.
- [40:25]
Greg Gutfeld
She said we are the world. The greatest night. Pop documentary covers it. One more thing is up next.
- [40:38]
Dana Perino
An accused rapist murder.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah.
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Emily Compagno
It's time now for one more thing. Guys, today I got the most beautiful surprise ever. The best country band in the whole world, Shenandoah, who sings the iconic and one of my favorite songs of all time, Two dozen roses sent me two dozen roses as a thank you. I am floored and so grateful and will remember the song.
- [41:30]
Dana Perino
What did you do for the to give a thank you?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah.
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Emily Compagno
They came on fox. They came on Fox and it was amazing. Marty and Mike and the rest of the band. You guys are the best. Thank you so much. I love you.
- [41:42]
Harold Ford Jr.
Shannon is a very talented singer. Yeah. Do you remember when Robert Conrad sent you flowers?
- [41:49]
Dana Perino
Yeah.
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Harold Ford Jr.
That was like the first or second year of the five. That was amazing. I idolized. I idolized Robert Conrad. And he sent you flowers. RIP Tonight, Michael Malice, Julie Banderas, Andrew Gruel, Kat Timp. That's tonight. Do we have time for this?
- [42:06]
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Well, she may have left the country, but at least she's still swimming. Celebrity Rosie o' Donnell seen taking a dip in a local body of water in Ireland. There she is. She fell asleep, but she looks amazing. That's actually Tucker the hippo at Cincinnati Zoo taking a floating nap.
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- [42:52]
Dana Perino
Teasing Johnny.
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- [42:53]
Harold Ford Jr.
You're teasing your assistant.
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- [42:58]
Harold Ford Jr.
Does he still get you lunch?
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Dana Perino
Johnny and Kate are on.
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Harold Ford Jr.
It is time to take the quiz. It's five questions in less than five minutes.
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Greg Gutfeld
New York City to play along.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Let's see how you do.
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Emily Compagno
Take the quiz every day at thequiz.
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Greg Gutfeld
Thank you for taking the quiz. Listen to the 5ad free on Amazon Music with your prime membership or subscribe.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Wherever you get your podcasts.