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Hello, everyone. I'm Dana Perino along with Kayleigh McEnany, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters, and Charlie Hurt. It's five o' clock in New York City, and this is the five.
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Why is it that a governor wouldn't accept free help from regardless? I mean, whether it's National Guard or the military or anybody, then we have a governor get up and say, oh, it's safe. We can handle it. He can't handle it. He's an incompetent guy.
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That was President Trump today sounding off on his crime crackdown and calling out Democrat leaders running some of America's biggest blue cities. It comes as a federal judge blocks him from sending National Guard troops to stop the anti ICE violence exploding in Portland. And now Chicago and Illinois fighting for the same outcome. They've sued the administration over its move to send troops into the Windy City, where this weekend, all hell broke loose. Watch this. Federal authorities opened fire on a woman who was allegedly armed with a gun shortly after their vehicle rammed and blocked calls to help federal agents who were surrounded by an angry mob. Chicago PD denies that.
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Were they told to stand down? Our officers were not told to stand down. Our officers were out there throughout the entire event. I would never tell our officers to stand down because if our officers were in trouble and we needed help from other officers, I would expect those officers to step in and help us. And it's the same thing that we do on our side. When someone is in trouble, we're going to step in.
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Illinois Governor J.B. pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson are ramping up their resistance to ISIS presence in their state.
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Watch here.
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Trump and the thuggery that his agents have brought has actively made us less safe. The right wing in this country wants a rematch of the Civil War. I just, I want that to sit in right now. Because the President of the United States of America has declared war on the people of Chicago. The order establishes ICE free zones. That means that that city property and unwilling private businesses will no longer serve as staging grounds for these raids.
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All right, well, let's start here, Jesse. I think it seems increasingly difficult for Democrats to claim that there's nothing to see here when federal agents are literally getting attacked. And you have it on camera.
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So ICE has every right to enforce immigration law. It's the same immigration law that Congress wrote. If Democrats don't like the law, they can change it or they can win an election and they can put the ICE agents back on the bench where they were for four years. You cannot nullify federal immigration Law through anti ICE zones violence. You can't do it. It's confederate action. And the federal government has every right to deploy federal resources to, to protect federal action that's being obstructed. This is like basic stuff. And they're using really disgusting violence to protect a cheap supply of labor. When have Democrats done that before? Do they really want a rematch of the Civil War? They're doing really awful things too. They're shooting lasers in eyes of people, they're spitting on them, they're threatening them, they're assaulting them. There's now $10,000 bounties the cartels have put on agents head because they're getting doxed and they want to put a death warrant out on them. And the Democrats don't want them to have a right to privacy. They used to love right to privacy but now they can't have a right to privacy when they wear a mask. I do want to talk about, because I'm the ombudsman for the legacy media, a lie that needs to be debunked about zip ties. You keep hearing Democrats and I know Jessica will bring this up eventually about ICE agents zip tying children. Well, I looked into it and when you do a raid on an apartment complex with 37 illegal aliens and a couple of them are trending and the guy's living in an apartment building with a 17 year old girl and they can't prove that they're related, it's law to escort the girl, detain her and bring her to a either state facility or a guardianship so she can't be exploited anymore. Trin Nicua is notorious for sex trafficking. You can't just allow these people to live together. And for Democrats to say they care about the children, all of a sudden they lost 300,000 of them. They lost them to sex slavery, to sweatshops. They're living in squalor now and they didn't care. They're just using it now as a talking point.
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Jessica, were you going to bring up zip ties or would you like to now?
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I wasn't going to, but I'm always down to talk about zip tied children. So Jesse didn't really debunk anything. He used an example of a 17 year old girl. But the case that the Democrats were making about this was based on the eyewitness testimony of people who lived in that apartment complex which ran at first on local abc.
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So you should go watch that one woman, okay? The woman was zip tied.
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Okay? And it's all fine. That's the thing I what would you.
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Do when you find a young girl in the custody of. What would you do?
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I'm glad you didn't pronounce it in your full accent though. The second time that you did it, it makes you more serious of a human being. But I don't think that that woman was Talking about your 17 year old person who was being sex trafficked. And either way, we'll find out more of it as time goes on. But you would certainly not deny the fact that ICE didn't need to pull all of those American citizens out of their homes and in order to get at the trend members that they were going for. You would also, I would hope, not deny the fact that the judge who ruled against the deployment to Oregon is not some lefty. She was A Bush appointed U.S. attorney. She was on Ken Starr's team. And I love this. I just, you know, love a good quote when she's talking about what's going on in Portland and how you can actually look at the footage and see that it's on one square block and it's not like the mess everyone portrays it to be similar to what happened in L. A, that Trump's deployment was simply untethered to the facts. The Trump administration is getting pushed back left, right and center. The American people are saying no to this. And the court system is saying no to this. You have judges who have been appointed by every president from Reagan up until Donald Trump and Joe Biden himself saying you cannot do this. Chicago journalists are doing Chicago. Chicago journalists are suing DHS for being, for having excessive force used against them. And I know you love a good poll. I'm going to lead the A block with it. CBS Trump is now minus 10 on immigration, 58% oppose using the National Guard. 70% of independents, 61% oppose using active duty military in our American cities. They are trying to militarize the country. And he says, and Caroline Levitt echoed it today in the press briefing, you know, well, he just wants to work together. He's not picking up the phone and calling JB Pritzker. He's saying, I'm coming to take your cities. And that's what he told all of the generals last week when he had them assembled.
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What are the Democrats in that poll?
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What that, in that poll. That's not how an answer the Democrats, 38% opposed using the National Guard is.
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Not like 20 points below what the Republicans are.
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But that's, that's, well, that's actually not true. In this poll, 40% versus 32% approval.
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I think Kelly, in here because I was going to ask you One thing about J.B. pritzker, but now I've changed my mind because on the legal front, it just, there's so many legal cross currents. I don't know. I feel like Kerry and Homeland, like, where can I figure out where this is going? How does this, how do we get to some sort of resolution before somebody gets killed?
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Yeah. So first you cite the district court judge. I would note that the highest authority we have currently is the Ninth Circuit, who reversed the district court judge in the L. A case. So this very well could be reversed by the ninth Circuit. I think it will be. When you look at the DOJ filing, I bring my primary sources when I'm on with Jessica, always. 169 page DOJ filing requesting an emergency motion to reverse that Judge. What you find in it is this. Their legal authority is 10 USC 12406. They say in two cases, Donald Trump can federalize the National Guard. One case, you're unable to implement the laws of the United States. You cited the laws of the United States. It's immigration law as passed by Congress. Unable to enforce that because ICE agents are being targeted. Number two, you can federalize the Guard if there's a rebellion against the authority of the government. Well, ICE is government. There's a pretty clear rebellion against this authority. Go ask the Dallas ICE agents who were targeted with anti ICE bullets. This is a rebellion against US Government sources. And also what's interesting, you only have to get 10 pages into this lawsuit. Here's what you find. Just to add to Jesse's list here, there's someone who wielded a firearm at ICE in Portland. There's an individual you mentioned the rocks, the sticks. Listen to this. Officers have been bitten, kicked, shot with paintballs, threatened with a machete and a knife and assaulted with potentially blinding lasers. The protesters literally lit a material on fire up against the courthouse. And other protesters threw accelerants on the fire. That's just one fire. There was another fire, too. That one was done with motor oil over the building of Portland ice. Donald Trump is on strong legal footing. I can't speak to the one federal judge. I think they're going to get reversed. The 9th Circuit sided with Trump once. I think they'll do it again. You can't be biting ICE officers and lighting their building on fire.
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Okay, so. So Charlie, weekends are supposed to be, like, easy, right?
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Right.
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You go on Fox and Friends weekend, you think, oh, you're going to have like, Fun. Going to jump around outside on some trampolines, do some bull riding. But no, like the weekends, it feels like this is when these protests are ratcheting up. And it feels like so much news is happening at the time. And as I understand it, I believe it was yesterday morning. Secretary Noem was on with you all, saying that there have been threats against them for kidnapping, for ICE agents. And the. She says that the threats are escalating. Do you feel over time, as you've been covering all of these things happening as it gets since the summer, that it's getting worse before it can get better?
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Oh, I think it's definitely getting worse. And the fact that she just. We were actually talking to Secretary Noem before that interview where she just sort of casually mentioned that this was going on. And we're like, holy goodness, are you kidding me? And the idea that you're you actually. And they're investigating who's behind this and who's putting up the money for these bounties. But $2,000 for attacking or kidnapping an ICE agent, $10,000 for killing an ICE agent, this is, this is shocking. And you know, I get, you know, on a legal front, I get squeamish about sending federal troops into cities to enforce the laws, but this is not anything normal. This is something very different. And like you said, Jesse, these federal officers are. It's not a right to enforce the law. They have an obligation to enforce law. This is not a choice. These are duly elected, enacted laws. They have no choice. And to have Brandon Johnson, who is an illiterate buffoon up there ratcheting it all up, saying that we're going to take a more drastic response, how are you going to get more drastic then violent assaults on these, these agents, the idea that we're going to have ICE free zones and then. And I hate this because whether I disagree with you or not or whether you're a Democrat or whatever, I hate watching these scenes and I hate language that ratchets it up. But for him to invoke the Civil War. Are you fricking kidding me? Going back to the illiterate buffoon that he is, I don't think he understands his history. And I know it's sort of unfashionable to study the history of the Civil War, but it might do some people some good to realize that the first shots fired in the Civil War were by locals in Charleston harbor firing on Fort Sumter. And so the, you know, this may be analogous to the Civil War, but Brandon Johnson is not on the side that he thinks that he is. And I don't think that we, you know, we can sort of pull back from this. And the way you pull back from this is to enforce the laws and respect the laws that elected people have put on the books.
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You know, the more that they talk about ICE as jackbooted thugs and disappearing people, it is asking for more of this and fascists.
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Right.
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All right. Up next, Democrats are striking by sticking, excuse me, sticking by an attorney general candidate in Virginia who fantasized about murdering his political opponent and his children.
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Children.
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It's Will Tane Country. Watch it live at noon Eastern Monday through Thursday@foxnews.com or on the Fox News YouTube channel. And don't miss the show. Listen and follow the podcast five days a week at Fox News Podcasts or wherever you download your favorite podcasts.
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Democrats are standing behind their candidate for Virginia attorney general despite leaked messages where he fantasizes about murdering his political opponent and their children. Jay Jones sent them to a colleague back in 2022, justifying a political assassination of the state's former Republican House speaker Todd Gilbert. Jones writing, quote, three people, two bullets. Gilbert, Hitler and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head. Jones also said of his deceased Republican colleagues, quote, I will go to their funerals to piss on their graves. Jones apologized, saying in part, reading back those words made me sick to my stomach. I'm embarrassed, ashamed and sorry. Virginia gubernatorial candidate Abigail Spanberger hasn't called for Jones to step down, but Governor Youngkin says it's way past time. This is demented. They have got to call for this.
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Guy to resign, step down, get out of this race in disgrace, because this is beyond disqualifying.
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Spamberger, Dana, your favorite Democrat, do you think she's been tough enough on this candidate?
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No, I don't. And I she's when the Democrats nearly, well, did they lose in the midterm or they nearly lost. And she was the one of the Democrats on Capitol Hill that was banging on the wall saying, guys, we've got a problem. Here we are. You've gone way too woke. The left wing is killing us. It's a huge problem. She decided to leave Congress and run for governor. And she's been ahead in the polls this entire time. And to me, that gives you the room to run to say you want to be governor of the Commonwealth of Virginia. It's pretty much a purple state. You could say it goes back and forth. I think you can call it purple state. And you only get one four year Term. Okay. She's so far ahead in the polls. To me, I would just love for a woman in that position to say, this will not stand on my watch and to call it out. And I don't think it would hurt her. Now, she might have politics or polls or internal people telling her no, but I believe in her gut, she knows what the right thing to do is. I would believe that she would say, he needs to get out.
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Will he get out?
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I don't know how he survives, actually. It's so bad. It's so bad that when. When ads have come out, have already come out about this, the ads have to. To note every single news source where the texts have appeared, because I think when people hear the texts, they. They do not believe it could possibly be real. I can't believe we're even having a discussion about whether this guy is fit to be the highest law enforcement officer in the state of Virginia. The defense we've heard so far is that it was a joke. He was just fun and around. He was not. If you. If you read in depth, the. The. The follow on conversations and follow on texts that he had with the person that he sent them to, he was not joking around. Or the other one, which is the other argument that they're making, is that, well, he didn't act out on it. So I've had psychotic ideations about assassinating my political opponent and killing his children, but I didn't do it. So elect me Attorney General. I don't think so. Yeah. The thing that I think is most interesting about this is the backstory. The reason he did this, what inspired this raid, this violent, psychotic rage, was a funeral for a Democrat sitting member of the state legislature that Todd Gilbert attended, then speaker of the House, then attended, and then. And eulogized and spoke glowingly about that Democrat in. In the legislature. And that so enraged this lunatic that that was what made him say, you know, two bullets for him, even if he's sitting with Pol Pot and Hitler. And to me, the, you know, the fact that he didn't assassinate somebody is not a plus in the first place. But in the second place, the bigger problem is, to me is that if that's your reaction to people trying to, like, talk across the aisle and come up with, like, reasonable solutions to things, then you're unfit for any office whatsoever. Just get out. Go away.
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And this isn't just any office. This would be the Attorney general. So he would have the power over people to put them in prison. I don't know if Virginia still Has the death penalty. But that is an immense amount of power for someone that obviously lacks the temperament necessary.
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Yeah. Look, there should be basic qualifications if you decide to run for political office. Should you be the attorney general of a state if you've called for the murder of your political opponent? Nope. Should you be the attorney general if you call for the murder of children, the slaughter of children? No. I think that's pretty, pretty basic. But that's not basic for Abigail Spanberger. It's not basic for Cory Booker, who endorsed him. I haven't heard from you, Cory. Not basic for Terry McAuliffe, Ralph Northam, a myriad of Democrats in Virginia who have not come out and taken back their endorsement. It should be basic common sense for people like the Virginia Beach Democratic Committee who reaffirms their full support of Jay Jones for attorney general. Isn't that nice? Well done, Virginia Beach. Even Joe Scarborough, Morning Joe came out and on the way to commercial break said maybe this guy should drop out. Like if Joe Scarborough can get it, elected official in the Democratic party should be able to get it too. We've seen the murder of Brian Thompson, the health care CEO. We've seen the Kavanaugh assassination plot, the assassination of Charlie Kirk, the murder of two kids in a church in Minneapolis. We need leaders to say enough is enough. We cannot have a candidate who's called for the murder of children. Pretty basic in the time that we're in especially. Where are you Democrats?
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Well, we have a Democrat right here.
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Lucky me.
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Look at that.
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Where are you on this? Should he resign?
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Well, it wouldn't be resigned. He should step down. And I think that he should. I think those tax are completely disqualifying. When I first saw them, I thought like, oh, is Stephen Miller having a fever dream? And then I was like, no, this is real that this happened. And I think that it reflects poorly on him as a human being but also as an elected official and potentially, you know, the most powerful law enforcement official in Virginia. Now we can all say that, but it doesn't change the fact that early voting has already started and his name is on the ballot. And Abigail Sandberger is up anywhere between 10 and 12 points. And there is a very good chance that Jay Jones still wins this seat despite the tax. And you know, he's breathed life into the her Republican opponents campaign when she's really been floundering, saying things like, you know, I don't know why people are so upset about the dogecots like it's just a job, etc. And now she has a few slick ads that are out tying Spanberger to Jay Jones that I think will hurt her. I don't know what happens then if he ends up winning the seat. I know that there is a lot of anxiety on the part of the Democratic Party that if you have a Republican ag, especially in Virginia when that is, you know, the epicenter of what Ross Vote wants to do. Russ vote I should say, sorry in terms of making massive cuts that that could be really dangerous to the Democratic agenda, etc. But I think you do have to draw a line in the sand and you have to say like we, we police our side of the street and beg the Republican Party to do the same. And I would love it if we could have a bit of a kumbaya moment and agree that someone like that shouldn't be in there and you shouldn't make fun of like Paul Pelosi for getting a hammer in his skull.
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So you're in agreement now that we should do away with early voting?
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No. Yeah.
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I'm with Republican who called for the murder of children. I'd love to know his or her.
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I'm just first of all I gave like a good two minutes that everyone could agree with. So let's just have it. But there's obviously a bunch of Republicans including the President who is very quick to say we're at war and I'm blaming the radical left, et cetera. And there are Democrats who 3 second.
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Kumbaya moment that didn't last very long. Last Tuesday I spoke about the criminal history of Alexander Dickey who had been charged with the murder of Logan Federico in South Carolina. I made an error when I stated that former Judge Bentley Price had treated Dickey as a first time burglary offender and gave him no prison time. Judge Price was not the judge who presided over Dickey's 2023 sentencing. Dickey pleaded guilty in that case to third degree burglary, a first time offense, and served just 411 days in prison. A local news outlet WIS 10 reported that the rap sheet prosecutors used to make the charging decisions in that case did not have Dickey's complete criminal history. We also reached out to 11th Circuit solicitor Rick Hubbard, but did not receive a response and I regret the error. Coming up next, President Trump lights up the crowd of naval cadets. I don't care if Monday's blue Tuesday is gray and Wednesday too.
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Thursday I force vector ultra berberine is everybody knows this is as you know, Navy won by the way for the day, only for the day. But for one day, it's Navy One, like Air Force One. This is day one. Thank you. Thank you, everybody. President Trump was channeling his inner top gun to celebrate the Navy's 250th anniversary. Commander in Chief firing up thousands of officers at Naval Station Norfolk in Virginia. He saluted the men and women keeping America seas safe. And then, in true Trump fashion, bragged about his own perfect body. God bless the United States Navy. Let's face it, this is a rally. This is a speech of love. We're all, we all love our country. Because of you, our Navy and our country will always be proud and righteous and mighty and free. He was also the doctor for Barack Hussein Obama. Have you heard of him? They asked him, who's in the best shape, who's the healthiest, who's the strongest, who's the best physical specimen of the three. He said, that's easy. President Donald Trump. And I said, I love this guy. Okay, so an amazing display yesterday. Yesterday. Yeah, yesterday, Dana Rate the White House handling of that entire event.
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Well, first of all, it's a. It's an amazing thing to go down to Norfolk, Virginia, to be able to be there. And they had the perfect weather, and they have all of these Navy men and women in the Navy who are pumped to see the President. Okay. And they're excited to be there. And they have a moment and the first lady leads them in the huya. And everybody is so excited. So, like, can we have three seconds of Kumbaya? That these people have been willing to go into public service. And they are excited to see the. Look at the smiles on the. On the president.
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She's wearing a bomber jacket.
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She's having the. They're having the best time. Beautiful weather. Now, I'm also old enough to know that when I was press secretary, they would. The Democrats would get mad when the troops cheered when George W. Bush would be there. And then Obama becomes president, and it's like, how dare they? His speech is so political in front of the troops. Then Trump did it, then Biden did. Now, on the Biden front, remember, he's the one who did not the rally speech, but the Death Star everything's going to hell speech. Remember the Dark Brandon speech that was in front of the Marines, Right. So it's not as if this hasn't been done. I would take a happy, beautiful event over any. Or something like that any day.
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So, Jesse, Democrats still have Hollywood, but the Trump team has managed to completely flip the script and, like, steal the entire storyline so that this, it's kind of unavoidable to show all of this stuff. Yeah.
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Like we're getting treated to so many flyovers. I think I might be able to ask Trump if I could have one for my birthday and I think he might seriously consider it. I a massive waste of taxpayer money, but I'm just saying I'm going to be 50 in a few years. Have you ever seen the military cheer for a commander in chief like this? Probably not since right after the Iraq situation or 911 have you seen so much enthusiasm. Remember, it was, it was Joe Biden who fell on his face at West Point. I do think that Barack Obama, Hussein Obama might like to take issue with the doctor saying that Trump is in better shape than he is. I don't know what his medical history is, but Trump has more energy and Trump works much harder. You've never seen a guy his age do thing to thing to thing, stay up and just talk and be accessible and be active. He puts Barack Obama to shame on that front. And I'm glad the Navy's getting some love because it is the reason why we were able to project so much power to all corners of the world and keep our enemies on the defensive in their territory. And that's why we have to build more ships. Let's go.
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Love it. Jessica, can we keep the Kumbaya moment hard?
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No on that one. Gone too far. Saying that Obama doesn't have the same energy and athleticism and stamina as Donald Trump. I mean, it's one thing when you want to say, like Trump versus Biden, but I saw Obama sprint up plenty of airplane stairs and play full court basketball.
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You support the flyover for Jesse's birthday?
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We have a few years to go, but he has a July birthday, so you can kind of like shoehorn it in Fourth of July.
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Now we're talking.
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Now we're talking. One of the more important things that Trump said that bolsters the argument that he turned this into a political rally and not just a USA rally, is he mentioned that we have to take care of this little gnat that's on our shoulder called the Democrats. And I know that Jesse feels like I am that little 5 foot 11 gnat that sits on his shoulder. But you can't say that to the military. And just like last week, you couldn't tell the generals that they need to help me out in fighting the enemy within. And by the way, the enemy within is only in Los Angeles, Chicago, New York, and that is completely inappropriate. And if that had been reversed, this Panel would look a lot different and sound a no.
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But it was Biden's team who said it was that the enemy within was in our United States military. And then they do this investigation and it turns out, oh, actually there's no problem. And they tried to bury it on a Saturday afternoon when they released it.
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Yeah. And I would just remind everyone too that Biden said that Republicans, maga, Republicans are a clear and present danger, a.
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Threat to the very Sitting in front of.
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Hold on. I listened to your criticisms of this beautiful 10,000 person rally as they chanted USA, USA. USA. It was a rally. Look, he said it's Republicans, Maga, Republicans are a clear and present danger, a threat to the very foundation of the republic. And he was quoting a judge in one of those. That's what Biden did. But this is what the left does. They love to take these beautiful moments and create some side distraction. I remember when Trump spoke at West Point, the distraction was the New York Times, Trump, Trump walks down ramp at West Point, raises health questions. Ridiculous. Doesn't raise health questions. He's here, he's president. Again, this beautiful rally. And once again you have Republican or Democrats rather, trying to distract from the fact that what he said was this. We own the skies, we stalk the depths, we rule the sea. We don't know anything about defeat. You know how much our military loves to hear that we're winning. We are the world's hegemonic power once again thanks to that commander in chief. And, and no wonder there's 10,000 people chanting USA.
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I would dare say that not a single person who's watching all of this unfold on TV had anything other than excitement and pride in watching it. Up next, bitter Kamala is screaming like a lunatic. Will tell you over what next.
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Have a great performance.
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Kamala's 107 days book tour seems to be going as well as her ill fated campaign for president. The former veep was screaming at the top of her lungs over the weekend repeating the false claim that the 2024 election was the closest in the 21st century.
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It was the tightest closest presidential election.
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In the 21st century.
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Now that Jessica is objectively false and let's put up the facts that prove how false it is. Trump won all seven swing states. Electoral College 312 to 226. Widest margin since 2012. First Republican to win the popular vote in 20 years. And you can see these demographic shifts. He picked up 19 points with young people, 15 with black voters, 13 with Latinos. So why does Kamala Harris lie.
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Well, what she's saying is different from all of those stats. And, I mean, all of them are obviously completely true. And I. You know, I have the New York Times chart with all of the red arrows seared into my mind that everything went in one direction, and there was only, like, two blue arrows around Atlanta, I think. But that isn't reflective of his margin of victory. And that's what Kamala is talking about. Listen, I don't think that you should be putting this as, like, the stake in the ground of your tour, but you had Stephen Miller even over the weekend saying, you know, it was a colossal landslide. And a colossal landslide is like Reagan in 1984, and Trump got 4 million less votes than Biden did in 2020. And if 0.15 percentage points of American voters had gone in the other direction, we would have had President Harris. I think that that is what she is trying to say. But obviously, Bush's race was way closer. Was it 537 votes that decided.
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Yeah, he. I mean, Dana, he won all seven swing states. I don't understand why you'd stand up and try to say he doesn't have a mandate to lead. We just put the facts.
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Well, I'm also surprised that Hillary Clinton hasn't complained, because Hillary won the popular vote by 2 million. Kamala lost it. Hillary lost by 77 electoral votes, common laws by 86. I mean, Hillary Clinton likes to pop up every now and then and have a little time in the sun on the media. She's not been seen. The other thing is, is that it's interesting because Kamala Harris will latch onto a talking point and then say it over and over and over again like it's a lifeline. So she has this opportunity in a book tour. She could talk about anything she wants. What she's talking about is the past. And what Democrats really, desperately need to talk about is the future, and she's not the future.
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Yeah. And, Jesse, I mean, no one wants to hear a Super bowl losing team say, we almost won the super bowl and, like, shout it from the rooftop.
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You don't hear the chief saying that they almost beat the Eagles. They lost 40 to 22. We were told election deniers were a threat to democracy and they were unfit to serve. I mean, she just got slayed in every swing state. The difference with Trump when he was disputing 2020 was that he had a case. What, because the FBI, the CIA, and the Chinese all interfered in the election to help Joe Biden, they all did so he was fishy also with all the mail in ballots coming in.
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And.
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And you know what? Who agrees? The American people agree because he poisoned.
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Them into thinking that that's why.
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No. Yes. That's why they reelected Trump in 24. American people said, you know what? We made a mistake in 2020. We screwed up. Joe Biden shouldn't have been president. Donald Trump should have been reelected. But we're going to do it again, and this time we're going to put him back in there. We kind of all agree.
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No.
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What do you think about Kamala's election denialism, Charlie?
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Oh, I think it's amazing. I think. And actually, I think it's worse than election denialism idea. When she says he does not have a mandate. You know, if you're an election denier, you complain about one election. You say one election didn't go some way. If you say the person who is duly elected does not have a mandate, you're throwing out all elections. She's throwing out electoral politics. I think that's so much worse than saying that, oh, this election was rigged or this election was wrong. I think it calls into question the whole. The whole idea of representative democracy. And maybe Donald Trump should bring back the disinformation misinformation board and have a truth czar. Oh, yeah, revive Biden.
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Stephen Miller is not that busy. He could do that.
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He and Rubio could do it together.
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You all would love Sean Duffy. He only has three jobs.
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Are. Yeah. You're not going to be able to sleep tonight, Jessica. Yeah, let's get that truth star going. All right, up next, a new study exposes. Excuse me. How scammers are flooding America's phones.
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Good news.
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Americans are getting slammed with 170 scam attempts every month, significantly more than people in most other countries. And the problem is getting worse with AI driven phishing, fake apps and deep fakes. Charlie, have you fallen for an online scamming attempt?
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No, I don't think so. But that's only because I don't respond to anything on anything, any device. I just, I don't email, text, any of it. But I think it also kind of makes sense because, like, especially now that America is great again. We're like a very prosperous country. And if you're not going to, you're not going to scam somebody who lives in a mud hut without electricity and no running water. Right? Are you? I don't think.
E
Yeah. Okay. All right, I'll take it. Dana, do you find that you're inundated.
C
A Little bit inundated.
A
And I become the same. I just delete. If I don't know your number, I delete. You want. I just, I don't want to take the risk because we cover a lot of these stories on Newsroom and across Fox News Channel. And one of the big, big concerns with this is for older people and they can get drained of their finances quickly and they get nervous and scared. And for example, like any of these scams where they're calling you and saying, I've got your daughter, right? Like these, the AI video, AI audio, things like that, they're getting, the scammers are getting more sophisticated and it's becoming a real, real problem in America. So I haven't fallen for one. I hope I never do. And I just encourage everybody to get in touch with your loved ones, especially the people that are older in your life, and reinforce how important it is not to click on anything.
E
It's good advice, Jesse. The one that almost gets me is when they say, like, we need you to confirm your login. Like they say, that almost gets you.
D
Wow. No wonder. Not the most street smart person, if you didn't know already. I get a lot of spam and I think my, my email got out there and so I'm getting inundated with people. And the people that spam me are very critical. But you know, they're also really critical of you. Jessica. I had, I had a Nigerian prince email me the other day and he wants you off the show. He didn't even ask me for money.
C
That was definitely real.
E
Yeah.
C
Look, I'm with you because the one that almost gets me, there's ones about like PayPal and Venmo. It's like people they say are using your accounts and it's terrifying. And you immediately want to log on and be like, who's using my account? But they're fake.
E
Yeah.
C
And it's scary. And I agree with you, Dana. Like, you've got to tell the older people in your life.
E
Yeah. The Monthly, like, oh, you just re upped your subscription to whatever and you just have to let it happen. I'm like, I have all these things that I can't access. Even Nigerian princes hate me. That's crazy. One More Thing's up next.
B
Force Factor, Better Turmeric promotes.
A
It's time now for One More Thing. I've got a great one for. So Saturday night, Joey Jones was honored with the John R. Text McCrae Award for Excellence in Journalism. It was during the Medal of Honor award celebration. It was in Chattanooga, Tennessee. And here is some of his speech.
D
I do that job. I hope the only reason I'm being recognized tonight is that I've lent that.
B
Platform that I've somehow obtained to something bigger than me, to something worth telling.
D
You about, to other people's sacrifices and service.
B
That's all I want to do.
A
Congratulations to Joey Jones Perino on Politics this Week with Josh Kroshar about the shutdown and Hamas and all the things that are going on. Jesse.
D
All right.
C
Just.
D
Jesse, what is primetime? Tonight we have speaker Mike Johnson, 8pm Eastern. And I will be wearing my medals.
B
In fact, you currently are wearing all of your medals.
A
Very good, Jessica.
E
All right. High school senior Connor DeBeau from Smithtown, Long island, is recovering from from a devastating accident at Gilgo Beach. While swimming with friends, Connor dove into a wave and fractured his C4 vertebrae, leaving him temporarily paralyzed. With no lifeguards on duty, his heroic friends acted quickly and pulled him to shore. Doctors say his survival is miraculous. He's a lifelong hockey player and hopes to play again soon. Speedy recovery and brave friends.
D
Imagine you play hockey and you get hurt swimming.
A
To be like, no more water. All right, Kaylee.
C
Well, keeping with the miracle theme, let's head out to Nebraska where you'll meet baby Oakley. She was diagnosed with a rare form of cancer, congenital acute myeloid leukemia, something that happens to 1 in 5 million births. Think about those odds. Well, after six tough months of treatment, she was finally able to go home with her family and her journey ended with the clap out you're looking at as hospital staff line the halls cheering her on. We are sending you our love and congratulations to Oakley and your awesome family.
A
They've made incredible strides in leukemia treatment. I bet she's going to be just fine.
E
I love the bell ringing.
A
Charlie, what do you have?
B
All right. Well, continuing on with the miracle theme, although not as impressive as that miracle, a woman visiting Belize nearly saw the circle of life in action right in front of her stray dog and following her and got into the water without noticing a gator lurking nearby and was looking for lunch. Luckily, the dog was able to get out quick enough. Negator left without.
A
Wait, you told me you were outraged because we showed this on newsroom.
B
I was. It was, it was too dramatic for the morning setting. It was. It was.
A
I know. It's like you can't play Marley and Me on a plane, right? All right, that's it for us.
C
Have a great night.
B
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Podcast: The Five (FOX News Podcasts)
Episode: Anti-ICE Violence Spiraling Out Of Control
Date: October 6, 2025
This episode centers on escalating violence against ICE agents in several American cities, debates around federal versus local control of law enforcement, the legal and political ramifications of current events, and broader cultural and political divides. The hosts analyze recent anti-ICE protests, government responses, and the increasingly charged political atmosphere, then transition into several other headline issues, including a controversial political candidate in Virginia, election legitimacy debates, scam risks, and stories of resilience and heroism.
[00:04–12:24]
Escalation in Cities: The show opens with news clips and discussion about violent protests against ICE, especially in Portland and Chicago, with federal agents being physically attacked—spit on, assaulted, targeted by blinding lasers, and even with bounties placed on their heads.
Jurisdictional Battles: Trump’s attempt to send National Guard troops to stop anti-ICE violence was blocked by a federal judge, leading to tension between the federal government and local leadership in blue cities (Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson).
Enforcing Federal Law: Jesse Watters stresses the need for enforcement:
"ICE has every right to enforce immigration law. ... You cannot nullify federal immigration law through anti-ICE zones violence. You can't do it. It's confederate action." — Jesse [02:28]
Debating Zip Tie Claims: Jessica pushes back on the narrative that ICE only zip-tied minors in legitimate circumstances, referencing local reports of citizens also being detained.
Legal Arguments: Kayleigh discusses the DOJ’s case for federal intervention, referencing statutes that allow for Guard deployment when federal laws are resisted or there’s “rebellion.”
"When you look at the DOJ filing...there's someone who wielded a firearm at ICE in Portland...officers have been bitten, kicked, shot with paintballs, threatened with a machete...setting buildings on fire." — Kayleigh [07:44]
Political Framing: The panel debates whether Democrats’ messaging is excusing or enabling violence and what legal tools are available to the President, anticipating court reversals and referencing past judicial decisions.
“To have Brandon Johnson, who is an illiterate buffoon up there ratcheting it all up, saying that we're going to take a more drastic response, how are you going to get more drastic than violent assaults on these agents? ... For him to invoke the Civil War—are you fricking kidding me?” — Charlie [10:02]
[12:33–19:02]
“Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, Hitler and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head.” — Jesse, quoting Jay Jones [13:10]
“To me, I would just love for a woman in that position to say, this will not stand on my watch and to call it out…in her gut, she knows what the right thing to do is.” — Dana [14:24]
[29:41–34:03]
“If you say the person who is duly elected does not have a mandate, you're throwing out all elections. She's throwing out electoral politics.” — Charlie [33:15]
[34:26–37:13]
[37:41–end]
“I hope the only reason I'm being recognized tonight is that I've lent that platform that I've somehow obtained to something bigger than me.” — Joey Jones [37:56]
The tone was unmistakably combative, sharp, and direct—typical for The Five—with quick-fire exchanges, pointed barbs, and explicit criticisms directed at both political opponents and, at times, each other. The panelists used vivid imagery, humor, and occasionally biting sarcasm, maintaining the show’s trademark blend of debate and personality-driven commentary.
This summary captures the full spectrum of heated exchanges, policy debate, and cultural/political insight for listeners who want a thorough outline of this episode’s most meaningful content.