The Five – Episode Summary

Podcast: The Five (FOX News Podcasts)
Episode: Anti-ICE Violence Spiraling Out Of Control
Date: October 6, 2025

Main Theme & Purpose

This episode centers on escalating violence against ICE agents in several American cities, debates around federal versus local control of law enforcement, the legal and political ramifications of current events, and broader cultural and political divides. The hosts analyze recent anti-ICE protests, government responses, and the increasingly charged political atmosphere, then transition into several other headline issues, including a controversial political candidate in Virginia, election legitimacy debates, scam risks, and stories of resilience and heroism.

Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Violence Against ICE Agents & Federal Involvement

[00:04–12:24]

• Escalation in Cities: The show opens with news clips and discussion about violent protests against ICE, especially in Portland and Chicago, with federal agents being physically attacked—spit on, assaulted, targeted by blinding lasers, and even with bounties placed on their heads.

• Jurisdictional Battles: Trump’s attempt to send National Guard troops to stop anti-ICE violence was blocked by a federal judge, leading to tension between the federal government and local leadership in blue cities (Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker and Chicago Mayor Brandon Johnson).

• Enforcing Federal Law: Jesse Watters stresses the need for enforcement:

  "ICE has every right to enforce immigration law. ... You cannot nullify federal immigration law through anti-ICE zones violence. You can't do it. It's confederate action." — Jesse [02:28]

• Debating Zip Tie Claims: Jessica pushes back on the narrative that ICE only zip-tied minors in legitimate circumstances, referencing local reports of citizens also being detained.

• Legal Arguments: Kayleigh discusses the DOJ’s case for federal intervention, referencing statutes that allow for Guard deployment when federal laws are resisted or there’s “rebellion.”

  "When you look at the DOJ filing...there's someone who wielded a firearm at ICE in Portland...officers have been bitten, kicked, shot with paintballs, threatened with a machete...setting buildings on fire." — Kayleigh [07:44]

• Political Framing: The panel debates whether Democrats’ messaging is excusing or enabling violence and what legal tools are available to the President, anticipating court reversals and referencing past judicial decisions.

2. Local Leaders' Rhetoric

• Civil War Comparisons: Chicago leaders and panelists discuss the framing of the current federal-state conflict as a “rematch of the Civil War.” Charlie Hurt is particularly critical:

  “To have Brandon Johnson, who is an illiterate buffoon up there ratcheting it all up, saying that we're going to take a more drastic response, how are you going to get more drastic than violent assaults on these agents? ... For him to invoke the Civil War—are you fricking kidding me?” — Charlie [10:02]

3. Virginia Attorney General Candidate Scandal

[12:33–19:02]

• Leaked Messages: The panel discusses Jay Jones, the Democratic candidate for VA Attorney General, who was revealed in texts to have fantasized about assassinating a Republican rival and his children.

  “Three people, two bullets. Gilbert, Hitler and Pol Pot. Gilbert gets two bullets to the head.” — Jesse, quoting Jay Jones [13:10]

• Party Reactions: Most Democratic leaders have not called for his resignation; Governor Youngkin and others say he should step down.
• Spanberger’s Position: Dana critiques Abigail Spanberger for not taking a harder stand:

  “To me, I would just love for a woman in that position to say, this will not stand on my watch and to call it out…in her gut, she knows what the right thing to do is.” — Dana [14:24]

• Democratic Dilemma: Jessica acknowledges the texts are disqualifying but points out that it’s too late to remove Jones from the ballot and worries about the political fallout and implications for Democrats' image.

4. Debates Over Mandates & Election Denialism

[29:41–34:03]

• Kamala Harris Book Tour: The panel addresses Kamala Harris repeating that the 2024 election was “the tightest, closest in the 21st century.” Kayleigh refutes this with electoral data.
• Mandate to Lead: Panelists see Harris’s statements as undermining the legitimacy of Trump’s victory and criticize “election denialism.”

  “If you say the person who is duly elected does not have a mandate, you're throwing out all elections. She's throwing out electoral politics.” — Charlie [33:15]

• Double Standards on Election Rhetoric: The group draws parallels between Democrats’ current claims and Republican reactions to the 2020 election; both sides accuse each other of undermining democracy.

5. Scamming Epidemic in America

[34:26–37:13]

• Americans Under Siege: The cast discusses the rise of AI-driven phishing, deepfakes, and scam attempts (170 per month per person), with special concerns for vulnerable seniors.
• Personal Anecdotes & Warnings:
  • Dana: “I just delete. If I don't know your number, I delete…one of the big, big concerns is for older people, and they can get drained of their finances quickly.” [35:23]
  • Jesse jokes about a “Nigerian prince” scam imploring that Jessica be removed from the show.

6. Positive Closing Stories (“One More Thing”)

[37:41–end]

• Joey Jones Honored: Joey Jones receives an award for Excellence in Journalism at the Medal of Honor celebration in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

  “I hope the only reason I'm being recognized tonight is that I've lent that platform that I've somehow obtained to something bigger than me.” — Joey Jones [37:56]

• Resilient Teen: Jessica shares the story of Connor DeBeau, a Long Island teen recovering from paralysis after a swimming accident thanks to heroic friends.
• Miracle Baby: Kayleigh introduces baby Oakley, who survived a rare form of leukemia after six months of treatment.
• Dramatic Dog Rescue: Charlie describes a dog escaping an alligator in Belize, adding some levity to close the show.

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “ICE has every right to enforce immigration law…You cannot nullify federal immigration law through anti-ICE zones violence.”
  — Jesse [02:28]
• “You cannot do this. Chicago journalists are suing DHS for excessive force...70% of independents oppose using active duty military in our American cities.”
  — Jessica [05:10]
• “I think it’s definitely getting worse...$2,000 for attacking or kidnapping an ICE agent, $10,000 for killing an ICE agent...This is shocking.”
  — Charlie [10:02]
• “Should you be attorney general if you’ve called for the murder of your political opponent? Nope...That’s pretty basic.”
  — Kayleigh [17:46]
• On Kamala Harris's rhetoric: “No one wants to hear a Super Bowl losing team say, we almost won the super bowl and, like, shout it from the rooftop.”
  — Jesse [32:08]
• Jesse’s joke about scams: “I had a Nigerian prince email me the other day and he wants you off the show, Jessica.”
  — Jesse [36:21]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• 00:04 – 12:24: Anti-ICE violence, federal intervention debates, courtroom and legal issues
• 12:33 – 19:02: Virginia AG candidate Jay Jones text scandal, party reactions
• 29:41 – 34:03: Kamala Harris's book tour, election narrative, and mandate debate
• 34:26 – 37:13: Scam epidemic, panelist anecdotes, AI scams
• 37:41 – End: Uplifting stories (“One More Thing”)

Tone & Language

The tone was unmistakably combative, sharp, and direct—typical for The Five—with quick-fire exchanges, pointed barbs, and explicit criticisms directed at both political opponents and, at times, each other. The panelists used vivid imagery, humor, and occasionally biting sarcasm, maintaining the show’s trademark blend of debate and personality-driven commentary.

This summary captures the full spectrum of heated exchanges, policy debate, and cultural/political insight for listeners who want a thorough outline of this episode’s most meaningful content.