Ballroom Blitz

Summary

"Ballroom Blitz" – The Five (FOX News Podcasts)

Episode Date: December 12, 2025

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Overview

This lively episode of The Five centers on high-profile political controversies and cultural flashpoints dominating the news cycle—including claims about Trump's political doom, Gavin Newsom’s healthcare policies, the so-called "War on Christmas," viral moments in pop culture, and a round of spirited, offbeat banter. True to the show’s format, the five hosts riff candidly, debate fiercely, and punctuate serious discussion with humor and sarcasm.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Trump’s Political Standing & Media Narratives

Timestamps: 00:36 – 09:34

• Democrats Predict Trump’s Demise: The panel mocks recurring Democratic narratives insisting Trump is finished, contrasting them with his visible confidence at public events.
  • Greg Gutfeld jokes: "He's done... You're a loser, dude. You're losing everywhere" (01:44)
• Cultural/Liberal Fatigue Over Trump: Kathy Griffin’s morbid boredom and Rachel Maddow’s warnings are cited as examples.
  • Rosanna Scotto quoting Griffin: “I’m just waiting for him to die so he will die sooner than later. He is disgusting to look at…” (02:03)
  • Rosanna Scotto referencing Maddow: “Trump is not going to end up being the dictator of this country…” (02:38)
• Debate Over Economic Narratives:
  • Inflation and tariffs are raised by Jessica Tarlov, arguing Trump’s tariffs were tax hikes; countered by others as Democrats avoiding their own inflationary record.
    • Jessica Tarlov: “The nonpartisan Tax Foundation just tweeted that the Trump tariffs are the largest US tax increase as a percent of GDP in 30 years.” (04:19)
    • Charlie Hurt: “If you want to talk about affordability, I don’t know how you talk about that now after years of ignoring 9% inflation.” (03:42)
• Polling & Party Control:
  • Poll numbers suggest Trump could still beat Kamala Harris—despite attempts to spin fatigue and decline.
  • Rosanna Scotto: “...at some point, you have to say the story says more about the storytellers than the subject.” (06:34)

Notable Quote

“With Trump, we’re like the kid on the block with all the cool toys... Jessica, she’s like the kid on the block with a stick and a jar of bugs.”
— Greg Gutfeld (07:22)

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2. Gavin Newsom and Health Care for Undocumented Immigrants

Timestamps: 10:47 – 18:49

• Newsom’s Admissions:
  • California’s governor openly supports and funds health care for undocumented immigrants, saying “I did it. We failed on the border. We need to own up to that.” (11:07)
• Minnesota’s Fraud Scandal:
  • News of a massive Somali fraud case leads to broader criticism of Democratic fiscal management.
• Debate Over Health Policy:
  • Jessica Tarlov clarifies it’s not “free” health care; they must buy into the system like citizens, but others say most Americans oppose taxpayer-funded care for illegals.
  • Charlie Hurt: “In the general, you get slaughtered because 62% of the American people do not want health care for illegal aliens... financially, it’s ridiculous.” (13:48)
  • Jessica Tarlov: “The truth is... every state in America gives health care to illegals; it’s just whether you do it in an emergency room or with insurance.” (12:27)
• The Exodus from California:
  • Greg lists celebrities leaving California, arguing Newsom’s policies—high taxes, free services—drive out high earners.

Memorable Moments

• Greg Gutfeld on Newsom:

  “The only thing he has going for him is he looks presidential. Other than that, it’s terrible. If you want to hire an actor, go ahead. I mean Reagan was an actor, but at least he had vision.” (14:28)

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3. The ‘War on Christmas’ & Jingle Bells Debate

Timestamps: 20:43 – 26:43

• Joy Reid, Jingle Bells, and Historical Context:
  • Joy Reid surfaces a claim that “Jingle Bells” was originally a racist minstrel song. The academic whose work is cited says it’s misrepresented.
  • Greg Gutfeld satirically riffs: “Everything is racist. Throw me a word.” (21:38)
  • Segue into a comedic routine, lampooning how anything fun is now labeled problematic.
    • Greg, deadpan: “Look, I need outrage Viagra because I can’t get it up anymore” [re: outrage fatigue] (22:21)
• Seriousness vs. Humor:
  • Discussion about separating performance history from intent of holiday traditions. Jessica Tarlov calls for nuance, “When you’re citing an academic paper, you should read the whole thing...” (25:57)

Notable Quote

“Are they still doing this? ...Anything in life that is fun is racist because someone out there is having less fun than you are...”
— Greg Gutfeld (22:22)

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4. Pop Culture: Viral Trends & Social Commentary

Timestamps: 27:13 – 32:24

• Shoplifting Study:
  • Discussion about a study showing rich people admit to stealing more at self-checkouts—cast as a “vice signal” vs. “virtue signal.”
  • Greg: “Okay, this is what’s called a vice signal... yeah, I may be rich, but I do some really bad things.” (29:00)
• In-N-Out’s Viral Meme:
  • Chain removes ticket number 67 due to internet pranks; panel jokes about generational divides and racial overtones.
• Time Magazine’s Person of the Year:
  • This year’s choice: the “Architects of AI.”
  • Rosanna: “Who runs the world? Now it turns out whoever controls the algorithm...” (31:47)
  • Greg: “It’s kind of like Time’s tombstone. It just says AI…” (32:05)

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5. Audience Q&A and Lighter Fare

Timestamps: 33:44 – 41:53

• Fan Mail:
  • Overrated foods: Sushi, avocado toast, and boxed chocolates top the list; Greg quips “I’m just gonna go with vegetables. Right. Vegetables. Come on…”
  • Have you failed to look cool? Panel unanimously agrees self-consciousness is embarrassing—and often futile.
  • “If time machines were real...” Fun inventions about living in different historical eras from Woodstock to the Roaring 20s.
    • Jessica Tarlov: “I’d like to go back to when my dad was alive... that could only just be like 2019.” (38:06)
• Whimsical Wrap-Ups:
  • Longest dog tongue world record, a giant alligator at 7-11, and skydivers with a record-breaking flag all make for offbeat holiday-adjacent stories as the episode closes.

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Notable Quotes

• Greg Gutfeld on Media Hysteria:

  “We never said the walls were closing in. We never said the dam is breaking. We never said he’s toast. We knew better... We didn’t hallucinate this kind of existential explosion that our viewers so desperately wanted to hear.” (07:45)

• Jessica Tarlov on Partisan Narratives:

  “...at some point, you have to say the story says more about the storytellers than the subject.” (06:34)

• Rosanna Scotto on American Exodus:

  “So many people are leaving California... You got celebrities who leaving California, like Joe Rogan, he moved to Texas. Elon Musk, he moved his company to Texas...” (15:02)

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Humorous Highlights

• Greg on Outrage Fatigue:

  “I need outrage Viagra because I can’t get it up anymore.” (22:21)

• On In-N-Out’s Ticket Numbers:

  “This is racist. Why are they banning six, seven?... And by the way, the name is disgusting.” (30:49)

• On ‘Most Overrated Food’:

  Multiple panelists: “Sushi!” “Avocado toast!” (34:12 – 34:35)

• On Trying to Look Cool:

  Charlie Hurt: “I used to think it was really cool to have great posture. So I used to walk in the room like this... then I look like an idiot.” (36:09)

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Key Timestamps

• Trump Narrative & White House Ball: 00:36 – 09:34
• Newsom’s Health Care for Undocumented Immigrants: 10:47 – 18:49
• War on Christmas/Jingle Bells Racism Claim: 20:43 – 26:43
• Shoplifting & In-N-Out Meme: 27:13 – 32:24
• Fan Mail & Fun Banter: 33:44 – 41:53

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Overall Tone & Takeaways

The Five balance serious discussions on divisive cultural and policy issues with irreverent humor, personal anecdotes, and fast-paced banter. The episode synthesizes the ongoing partisan media environment and shifting public narratives, with each host leveraging their trademark style to entertain, criticize, and occasionally provoke. It's both a window into the right’s take on current hot-button stories and a showcase of the chemistry—and comedic snark—that continues to define the program.

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Useful if you missed the episode: Spans the serious (policy and politics) and the silly (Christmas song controversies and fan Q&As), with sharp lines and a rapid conversation style.

Transcript

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[Jesse Watters]

Hello, everybody.

[Charlie Hurt]

I'm Jesse Waters along with Charlie Hurd, Jessica Tarlov, Rosanna Scotto, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City, and this is the five. The Democrats keep insisting the walls are finally closing in on President Trump. But judging by last night, nobody told him, the President putting on his finest tux. And Melania looked dazzling in her gown as they hosted the annual Congressional ball at the White House.

[Greg Gutfeld]

And we love the Republicans and we love the Democrats and we love everybody else. We love everybody, especially tonight, now, tomorrow. I'll have to deny I ever said that, but that's okay. I think you could get rid of a couple of your little policies like men and women, sports, open borders, transgender for everybody.

[Jesse Watters]

But other than that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Other than that, I like what you do.

[Jesse Watters]

Doing so.

[Charlie Hurt]

Trump's clearly at the top of his game as he drives the news cycle every single day. But the Democrats, cranky Cajun, thinks his presidency is over.

[Greg Gutfeld]

He's done.

[Jesse Watters]

We just got to butter this toast.

[Charlie Hurt]

And slice it and eat it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

He's done.

[Charlie Hurt]

It's over. You're a loser, dude. You're losing everywhere, and you're going to lose more because you, my friend, are a loser. Crazy. Kathy Griffin says hold my beer. She's so bored of Trump, she's waiting for him to kick the bucket.

[Rosanna Scotto]

By the time I get on stage, everybody's covered the latest crazy thing he said, and I'm just waiting for him to die so he will die sooner than later. He's in terrible shape. He is disgusting to look at. Like, disgusting. And I'm not saying I'm some beauty. It's not about that. It's that because he is who he is and because he is doing what he is doing. I can't even, like, stand to look at him.

[Charlie Hurt]

And Rachel Maddow also thinks the Trump era is coming to a close.

[Rosanna Scotto]

It's not too late. Trump is not going to end up being the dictator of this country. Maybe you can salvage your reputation and your descendants won't spend the next several generations denying that you were one of Them all right.

[Charlie Hurt]

Quite the struggle session. Charlie Hurt, what is going on here as we enter the Christmas season?

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah, it's so exhausting and it's hard to imagine. It's been going on for 10 years. For 10 years, we've been told that it's all over. He's finally done it. And you hear it from both Democrats and Republicans, obviously, because Trump has managed to completely take over the Republican Party. You only, you mostly, almost 90% just hear it for Democrats. But it's, but it's like, I think we'll look back at this and it will become kind of a funny little thing to remember. All the times they told us that it's over with and then you could like list all of his accomplishments after this person said it's all over with. We got him right where we want him. I think what they're hoping is that they can, like, change, you know, turn the entire topic to talk about this affordability thing, which is, I think is an important, that's a good topic to talk about. Of course, it's what got Donald Trump elected in the first place. The problem for Democrats is that if you want to talk about affordability, I don't know how you talk about that now at a moment after years of ignoring, you know, how do you get worked up over 2.9% inflation after spending years of ignoring 9% inflation.

[Charlie Hurt]

Jessica Tarlov, would you like to answer that question?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Sure. I already did earlier this week. Oh, a doom loop.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We can do that.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Roll the tape.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Why am I here?

[Jessica Tarlov]

When inflation was 9% in America, it was also up all over the world. Then Joe Bide Biden handed an economy to Donald Trump where inflation was what, 2.7, 2.8%. And he's kept it around there, whereas he said he was going to fix it on day one. Do we have a plan? Yes. It starts with repealing all of these tariffs. The nonpartisan Tax foundation just tweeted at the Trump tariffs are the largest US tax increase as a percent of GDP in 30 years. He is taxing you. Your life is just, you can't. You already asked me why is the.

[Charlie Hurt]

Inflation rate the same if all of these tariffs are so inflationary?

[Jessica Tarlov]

It's that it's the same.

[Charlie Hurt]

You just said.

[Jessica Tarlov]

No, it's not Exactly Joe Biden first.

[Charlie Hurt]

Year and in certain 3%. So of all these tariffs, everything can't wait.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You admitted earlier this week Jerome Powell even was talking about it. You admitted earlier this week that the Republicans are going to lose the midterms. You said it out loudly. Okay. Probably historically and literally. You also, in the read, when we were starting this, you said Trump is at the top of his game. If he were at the top of his game, the Indiana State Republicans would have approved his maps. He threatened them publicly, privately, calling people getting bomb threats, going after individuals, and they would have succumbed to him. But they didn't. They voted against it. Now, I don't know what will happen. I saw just before we came out here that, you know, the Republicans in Indiana have a plan or whatever, but that's clear evidence of it. You also have a change in approval amongst those who strongly approve of him. So a 2024 voters for Trump march, 66% strongly approve. That's down to 50%, a 16% decrease in the first year of his administration. People are saying we put you into office to lower our prices, to fix the economy, and you're building ballrooms. You're telling us we can only have two pencils and that we.

[Charlie Hurt]

Beautiful ballrooms. Let's be fair.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I am always fair. Actually. It's. It's my main quality, my best quality. Anyway, top of his game. That's what it looks like.

[Charlie Hurt]

Rosanna. You know, the poll that really matters is that if the election were held again today, Trump would still beat Kamala Harris.

[Rosanna Scotto]

Well, Donald Trump says we have the hottest country right now. So he didn't get the memo that everybody else is talking about. You know, what's kind of interesting is I feel like every week there's another narrative. They're trying to find one that sticks. Do you remember last week? He's so fatigued. He's showing his age. He's so tired, he's napping. This week, the dam is breaking. This is the end. Like I said, it's never done. But at some point, you have to say the story says more about the storytellers than the subject. So they're going to keep trying to find a narrative that sticks. They haven't found it yet.

[Charlie Hurt]

Speaking of fatigued and showing his age.

[Jesse Watters]

Wow.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So unnecessary. You know, I'm gonna ignore that.

[Rosanna Scotto]

Please.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Cause it's Friday and it's the holiday season. And also, I.

[Charlie Hurt]

You forgot.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I forgot. You know, with Trump, we're like the kid on the block with all the cool toys. We got the bike, we got the basketball court, we got the go karts. And Jessica, she's like the kid on the block with a stick and a jar of bugs. She doesn't have a lot of, but she's going to have fun with what she's got. And that's what matters.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Your imagination is what matters.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, exactly. And speaking of imagination, why do you think the Democrats keep thinking the walls are closing in? My theory is it's because they're getting fatter. Oh, right. So they just think the walls are coming in, but they're just getting larger and larger and larger because they're eating away the pain. You know, the big difference between us and them is when we talked about Biden during those four years, we were addressing real concrete things. His infirmity, the border economy, Afghanistan, crime. But in all these crises, we never said the walls were closing in. We never said the dam is breaking. We never said he's toast. We knew better. And we weren't going to sell a lie to our viewers. We knew there was no chance the media was going to address the things we were talking about. And we knew the Dems would never succumb to common sense and get him out of office. So we just observed and reported react reality. We didn't hallucinate this kind of existential explosion that our viewers so desperately wanted to hear. Rachel talking about consequences. You know, it's like Somalia complaining about illegal immigration. You know, she was the primary engine of the Russian collusion hoax and that tore families apart. Right there were, you know, your mom or your sister would, you know, say, but Trump's a Russian asset. How can you support him? And people were really that, that, that took a lot of mental and psychological energy out of people. And it's amazing that she can act like that never happens and make $27 million a year for one day of work a week while draining her network of credibility. And then lastly, you got Carville, who's a blithering reptile. He calls a guy who's won the presidency twice and brokered eight peace deals a loser. That's like me calling someone sexy. Pot, kettle, black.

[Charlie Hurt]

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[Jesse Watters]

Necklace.

[Charlie Hurt]

Wow.

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[Rosanna Scotto]

All right, well, it looks like Christmas came early for Republicans because the Democrats so called 20, 28 front fronter just handed them a gift with a bow on it. California Governor Gavin Newsom now proudly admitting that his state gives free health care to illegal immigrants as it relates to undoc healthcare.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, I'm proud of that because I.

[Charlie Hurt]

Believe in universal healthcare.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You know, others may say it, I did it. We failed on the border. We need to own up to that. Largest border crossing in the western hemisphere in my state.

[Charlie Hurt]

Spent billion plus dollars to do migrant.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Centers, try to put a lid on things. It was quite critical, but I tried to do it in a respectful way of the Biden administer.

[Charlie Hurt]

We failed on the border.

[Rosanna Scotto]

And over in Minnesota, as the state gets rocked by a billion dollar Somali fraud scandal. Governor Tim Walsh holding a news conference earlier where he lashed out at President Trump. You got to watch this.

[Jesse Watters]

We are a state that chooses not to let people go hungry or homeless or uneducated. However, that generosity has been taken advantage of by an organized group of fraudsters and criminals. Donald Trump brought this to the attention like this is something brand new. This is not brand new. And it's been being worked on. But he made it White hotel and very dangerous.

[Rosanna Scotto]

Alrighty, Ms. Jessica, I'm wondering if Democratic leaders are openly proud of providing taxpayer funded health care to illegal immigrants. Like, what do you say to the voters out there who are struggling with their own care? I think I just read something like ambulance care in California is going up 382%.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That's a pretty exact number if you were just casually reading it. I love the specificity. So my understanding of the program that Gavin Newsom is talking about is that it's not free health care for illegals. They can buy into the health care system and they have income requirements like US Citizens would. And the truth is, is that every state in America gives health care to illegals. It's just whether you do it in an emergency room or whether they have insurance. And when you go to an emergency, well, it is tr. Anyone can show up in an emergency room and they're going to get treated. It's just going to cost you a lot more. And they're changing studies.

[Charlie Hurt]

Who?

[Jessica Tarlov]

The country, the state. Yeah, but that's not what Gavin Newsom is saying. The people that he's talking about actually have insurance that they pay for like you or I do. They're just undocumented. And if you think that it's going to be some huge own in the primary, like defund the police to say that you believe in universal health care. Sorrowfully mistaken there. If you talked to Republican voters, even or at least moderate Republican voters and said, do you think it would be a better situation? People who were here actually had insurance, so they weren't just walking into an emergency room with a limb hanging off and then you have to pay for the totality of that, they would probably err on the side of having insurance.

[Rosanna Scotto]

Jesse, I see you making a lot of faces, so I'm just wondering.

[Charlie Hurt]

No, I was trying not to make faces.

[Jessica Tarlov]

It didn't work.

[Charlie Hurt]

No, but she's wrong on the facts. You know, you are right that in the primary, this is a winner, but in the general, you get slaughtered because 62% of the American people do not want health care for illegal aliens. 71% of independents do not want health care for illegal aliens for so many reasons. One, financially, it's ridiculous. Also, ethically, you can't say for people that are struggling to pay their own health insurance that you have to pay for a foreigner's health insurance. Also, it's corrupt, because what are you doing? You're just shoveling money to rich insurance companies. And it's illogical because what you're doing is incentivizing foreigners to come here and get free stuff. Gavin will argue that it's compassionate, but it's not compassionate to the American people. It's actually disrespectful to the American people. You look at this guy, the only thing he has going for him is he looks presidential. Other than that, it's terrible. If you want to hire an actor, go ahead. I mean, Reagan was an actor, but at least he had vision. Every time this guy opens his mouth, he looks like he's trying to wiggle out of trouble. And I know that because I spent my whole life wiggling out of trouble. True.

[Rosanna Scotto]

Okay. On that note, Greg, you know, I'm just wondering also, so many people are leaving California. A lot of high earners are leaving California. You got celebrities who leaving California, like Joe Rogan, he moved to Texas. Elon Musk, he moved his company to Texas. Mark Wahlberg moved to Nevada. Sliced alone. Florida. I mean, the list goes on and on.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, it seems to be a trend. But I got to tell you, I love this tweet from Ezra Klein. Did you see this thing? Can you put it up there? All right, the first two sentences. Trump often lies about Democrats giving health care to undocumented immigrants. New Newsom actually did it. So wait, he often lies, but Newsom actually did what Trump said he did? That's like saying, I didn't rob the bank, as I told the security guard in the bank that I shot it. It's like. It's such an interesting shift. It used to be a lie, but now we admit it because it's a good thing. You're talking in California alone, covering 2 million illegals with full services comes to billion annually. That's what Newsom wants. It sounds like free health care. It isn't, because Californians will pay for it, which will cause people to leave. You know, it's good that he admits that the. The border failed. They failed the border. But he should be happy Trump's president right now, because you can't have free health care and an open border. Your state will implode. You got to pick one guy, and then maybe people will treat you like an adult. Tim Waltz, can we just point out he is the poster child for deliberate incompetence. They installed this buffoon, so everybody gets a piece of the action. It's the Biden presidency scaled down to Minneapolis. I'm just glad that Mary Tyler Moore is not around to see what has happened to Minneapolis. She would never throw her hat in the air. It would either get stolen or shot.

[Rosanna Scotto]

Ooh, Charlie. You know, Governor Wallace, obviously, what's a billion dollars just disappeared in the middle of the air, Right? But he's still welcoming more immigrants to his.

[Jesse Watters]

And I think it's important to recognize that a lot of the malfeasance that were is being uncovered in Minneapolis is being by illegals. I think it's really amazing that Democrats are even claiming that this is sort of trying to claim that this is not something that they support giving illegals to. Giving free health care to illegals. Back during the primary in 2020, they were asked to raise their hands. Every single person on the stage raised their hands to say they support giving free health care to illegal aliens. I bet that poll you mentioned, about 62 or 68%. I bet it's even higher than that of people who do not want to give, who don't to write a check every week paying for free health care for illegals. And this issue of illegal immigration is so important because it's not just spending on things like health care. You talk about housing. Housing is expensive. Well, one reason housing is so expensive is because we're housing millions of illegals. And by the way, not only does that drive up the price of housing, but taxpayers were paying for it. You want to talk about welfare reform or inflation when you have a Covid bill that we passed costing $2 trillion and you want to find the culprit for inflation during the Biden years. Things like that are what caused that. And then you get stories out of places like Minneapolis where you have just, like, dizzying corruption, where they stole welfare and for their own benefit. But I think that this winds up being a remains a very potent issue.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Does it not matter, though, that this is about getting health insurance that they can actually pay for?

[Jesse Watters]

I think that's what this is. The solution to it is to remove illegal aliens from the country. And President Trump is doing that. And will he get credit for it? I don't know. There's a. Most politicians don't solve problems because they don't like. When you solve a problem, you can't raise money and campaign on that problem. Donald Trump doesn't care about that. He actually wants to solve the problem. And he is.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Well, there was a bipartisan.

[Jesse Watters]

There's something bipartisan about what Donald Trump has done to solve the problem of illegal immigration.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Bipartisan immigration bill. And he called up Republicans and said, I don't want this because I want to.

[Jesse Watters]

It allowed the illegal immigration to continue at the rate that it was noted.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Lib James Lankford that wrote that bill.

[Charlie Hurt]

It was a stupid bill. And look what he did without even using legislation. Didn't need it.

[Jessica Tarlov]

What a beautiful.

[Greg Gutfeld]

In your face.

[Rosanna Scotto]

All right, everybody, cut it out now. Up next, let's talk about Christmas. Christmas. The war on Christmas never ends. Joy Reid now apparently thinks Jingle Bells is racist.

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[Charlie Hurt]

Hey.

[Jesse Watters]

The Grinch of MSNBC past. Joy Reid is waging the newest war on Christmas by declaring a beloved holiday tune as racist. Joy Reid sharing this video on Instagram to her 1.3 million followers, which claims Jingle Bells was written by a Confederate soldier to mock black people. Now, the video cites a 2017 Cambridge University Press paper titled the Story I Must Tell Jingle Bells in the Minstrel Repertoire. But the author of that paper now says her research is being misrepresented. Quote, at no point have I ever made a claim on what people should or should not sing at Christmas. And Greg, I know you are deeply concerned about this.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, you know you know it.

[Jesse Watters]

So is everything racist?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Everything. Everything is racist.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Everything.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You throw me. Throw me a word.

[Jesse Watters]

Unicorn.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Unicorn. White power. Right. Why do people love unicorns? Obviously, because they're white. And what is the horn symbolize? Patriarchy. Right. Give me another one.

[Rosanna Scotto]

Zebra.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Zebra. Well, obviously it's meant to be black and white, but really What's a zebra but just a horse pretending to be equal when really it's a dei. It's a DEI horse. Look, look, I need. I need out. I'm so. We've been doing this for years. I need outrage. Viagra. Because I can't get it up anymore.

[Charlie Hurt]

I like.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's like. It's like I try that. I got to try. It's like it's hard. It's like, are they still doing this? Are they. Anything in life that is fun is racist because some. Someone out there is having less fun than you are, and God forbid they don't look like you, then it's your fault. Fault. If there's like a. But there's. You know what? I hate Christmas music. So I'm going to be with Joy Reid on this and say that all Christmas music is racist and it targets minorities. So that way maybe we'll get less of it.

[Jesse Watters]

So, Rosanna, are you outraged by this or do you need a subscription? A prescription to.

[Rosanna Scotto]

I'm totally outraged.

[Jesse Watters]

Viagra?

[Rosanna Scotto]

No, not as in Greg's camp. But I will tell you, I did look it up because I wanted to know more. First of all, I didn't even realize this. It was not even meant to be a Christmas song. It was a winter song. It was actually called the One Horse Open Sleigh. Wow, Greg, put that in your pipe.

[Greg Gutfeld]

And before that it was black people suck. Nobody knew that at the time.

[Rosanna Scotto]

What I didn't know was back in 1857 when they wrote the song and they performed all went through the minstrel performances, which we now know were racist. Right. But at that time, that's what they did. It went through minstrel.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So it was a regular minstrel cycle.

[Jesse Watters]

So, Jesse, assuming that Christmas is now racist, does that mean that people, non white people who celebrate Christmas are committing cultural appropriation?

[Charlie Hurt]

Y. I don't know what you said, but yes, I hate that. I researched it too, because I wanted to know. And you are right. This was composed for minstrel shows in Boston, performed by a famous minstrel actor, white guy with the black face. And it was very popular.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Jimmy Kimmel.

[Charlie Hurt]

They made fun of black people that were participating in winter activities because they were slip sliding and laughing. And that's what it was. And so I never knew that. I don't care. I will sing this song. I will Carol with a turtleneck and I will love it. Just like lots of songs have troubled histories. Apparently Bach was like a Nazi. Really? Wagner. I think people think it's Wagner. Richard Wagner.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's Robert Wagner?

[Charlie Hurt]

Yeah.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I don't know.

[Jesse Watters]

Wait.

[Greg Gutfeld]

How could Bach be.

[Charlie Hurt]

Music is problematic.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I love it.

[Charlie Hurt]

You're more surprised that I listen to classical music.

[Greg Gutfeld]

How can Bach be a Nazi?

[Charlie Hurt]

I don't know. Michael Jackson. Kind of a child molester. Probably the best musician I've ever heard. So I'll listen to it. I can separate.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's because you have his jacket with all the zippers.

[Jesse Watters]

Yes.

[Charlie Hurt]

It's like, the best Christmas gift I ever got.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes.

[Charlie Hurt]

Thank you, Dana.

[Jesse Watters]

So, Jessica, you're a noted caroler. I would assume Jewish.

[Charlie Hurt]

You didn't know she was Jewish.

[Jesse Watters]

So I guess that means you're not going to excise Jingle Bells from your caroling list.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Jews are allowed to enjoy Christmas and Jingle Bells as well. I'm not.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's cultural appropriation.

[Jesse Watters]

It does seem like that.

[Charlie Hurt]

Sorry, Jessica, I didn't make the rule.

[Jessica Tarlov]

It's fine. And I married a Christian, but no one wants to hear me sing. They barely want to hear me sing.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, you pants me.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And I totally get that.

[Jesse Watters]

Would you like to sing now? I would like to hear your.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I don't. I'm still stuck on the menstrual cycle, so we can just move on. When you do cite, we'll say from having spent a lot of time in the ivory tower. When you're citing an academic paper, you should read the whole thing and do it with some level of specificity, because people spend a very long time and a lot of effort to write these things. And then to just gloss over and miss the point that she was talking about the performance history and not the actual content of it is. Is an important detail.

[Greg Gutfeld]

She's the real victim.

[Jessica Tarlov]

You would if. If someone totally missed your work.

[Charlie Hurt]

My peer review journal was misrepresented. What am I gonna do?

[Jessica Tarlov]

You guys are such jerks.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Thankfully, finally, you're right on something.

[Jesse Watters]

Thankfully, the fastest is.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Too low and income or whatever we're fighting about Medi Cal.

[Jesse Watters]

You are.

[Jessica Tarlov]

All right. No, you are engaging me on it. Welcome back. Time for the fastest. First up, it turns out rich people are the most likely to accidentally forget to skip avocados at the self checkout. A new survey says Americans making $100,000 or more a year are twice as likely to steal as shoppers living in poverty.

[Jesse Watters]

Omg, this study is a total lie. I think that it exposes the real privilege, which is that rich people are willing to admit that they did steal things and that lower income people are smart enough to recognize you never admit to stealing something. And the reason we know this is because the same study claims that men steal more at the self checkout line than women. And that is a. We all know that that is a lie. There is no way that that is a possibility.

[Charlie Hurt]

I love that you just came out with men are more honest than women from that study. That might be the smartest thing you've ever said and most accurate. The. I took it a little differently. I was thinking, we're not stealing. We're just frustrated because we can't figure out the computer, so we just put it in her bag. You know how, like, they have, like, you get tomatoes and then, like, you're, like, looking for where the tomato thing is and you're like, I don't want to do this. And you got to call some woman over and she punches the button and you stand there with two tomatoes, like, just throw them in the bag. Not that I've ever done that. I'm a man. I'd admit it.

[Jesse Watters]

It's rage, theft, rage, theft.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Rosanna, do you believe it?

[Rosanna Scotto]

Yeah, because the rules don't always apply to everybody, so. Yeah, but I just thought it was a strange study, too. I just thought, you know, so we're trying to justify that it's not just poor people who steal.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We.

[Charlie Hurt]

Who steals the most?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, we do. I don't think it was the rich behind the organized theft rings that looted our department stores for three years. Look, okay, this is what's called a vice signal. What Charlie is talking about. There are virtue signals and there are vice signals. Vice signals are saying, yeah, I may be rich, but I do some really bad things. You know what I mean? It's like Sarah Stalker, the white what's Her Face from Kentucky, who said, like, as a white person, I feel like. I feel. I don't feel very good because of all the. Because of all the white privilege. This is what originally. Yeah, I steal, too. I understand that. No, BS Lendingtree. Lendingtree, who was behind this survey? What is Lendingtree? What is lend. It's not a direct lender, is it? What it does is it tries to match you with the lender. And then you go forward and you get this outrageous fee because you didn't scrutinize it.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Okay, up next, the popular California fast food chain In N Out Burger is removing the number six seven from its ticket system after a viral meme reportedly caused mobs of teenagers to flood its restaurants. Here's just some of the insanity at one. Jesse, why are they ruining all the fun? Taking away the 6 7?

[Charlie Hurt]

Yeah, I don't know. My daughters do this all the time.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I don't.

[Jesse Watters]

I don't care.

[Charlie Hurt]

Next.

[Jessica Tarlov]

More time for fan mail. Rosanna, do you have a six, seven?

[Rosanna Scotto]

Well, yeah, no, I don't have anybody in my family does six, seven. But I do love the whole idea. It's a generational showdown, and I think it's causing chaos. So, whatever, it's fine with me.

[Greg Gutfeld]

This is racist.

[Charlie Hurt]

No.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Why are they banning six, seven? Because that makes sure there are large. Large crowds of youths don't come to your store. Right. They say, we can't have seen all these kids or something.

[Jesse Watters]

And.

[Rosanna Scotto]

Yeah.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, white kids. Really? Did we take a closer look? This is racist. In n Out. And by the way, the name is disgusting.

[Jesse Watters]

What kind of perverse.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What kind of person would eat at a place called in and Out?

[Jessica Tarlov]

It's delicious. Charlie, what you got?

[Jesse Watters]

I mean, why would you be upset about having a crowd like that at your restaurant? I think you could sell something to.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Them because they're racist.

[Jesse Watters]

I think maybe you might be right.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You're racist.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Okay. Times Person of the Year was announced yesterday, and no luck this time. Jesse. It's the architects of AI, and they are this year's winner. Did anyone have an opinion about that? I thought it was cool and interesting and made sense.

[Rosanna Scotto]

It was kind of cool. I just think, you know, we used to say, who runs the world? Now it turns out whoever controls the algorithm, Right? So, AI, here we come. It's all not even about, you know, saving you time. It's about who's got the time card now, and it's AI.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Greg, you look particularly bored. Would you like to say something?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. It's weird that time is still around and time is still doing that. Can you put the COVID up again? It's kind of like Time's tombstone. It just says AI. That's like their tombstone. They're dead. It's no longer going to exist. AI is going to eliminate any job that doesn't require physical effort.

[Charlie Hurt]

So this is this one.

[Jesse Watters]

This is never. This is the problem with, like, lists and things like this, where. Especially when someone's trying to be interesting and time is trying to be interesting and trying to do something that nobody expects. So they come up with this, and then that just kind of undermines all of it. Makes it kind of stupid.

[Rosanna Scotto]

Stupid.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Who would you have put on the COVID Greg Godfrey.

[Charlie Hurt]

Charlie Kirk.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, that's good.

[Jesse Watters]

Fantastic.

[Greg Gutfeld]

That's good.

[Charlie Hurt]

He deserved it.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah.

[Rosanna Scotto]

Okay, great.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Fan mail. Friday is up next. You know, I'm impatient, so why would you leave me waiting outside the station when it was like minus 4 degrees. And I get what you say.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I really.

[Charlie Hurt]

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[Ainsley Earhardt]

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[Jessica Tarlov]

See mint mobile.com.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Fan mail. All right, this is a good question from Barbara. What is the most overrated food that people pretend to enjoy? Restaurant owner Rosanna. What is it?

[Rosanna Scotto]

Rigatoni with bolognese sauce.

[Jesse Watters]

What?

[Charlie Hurt]

Everyone loves that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. That's so good.

[Rosanna Scotto]

I know. So that's what everybody. That's the number one seller at our place.

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, but tends to enjoy. But you're saying it's overrated.

[Rosanna Scotto]

No, I love it. It's the number one thing. What's overrated? Everything that's delicious on a menu. What?

[Charlie Hurt]

No, I'm going with sushi. Yes.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I was going to say sushi.

[Charlie Hurt]

All they order is a spicy tuna roll or a California roll. Anything else they won't eat.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, it's not even food.

[Jesse Watters]

Yes, it is.

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, it's not. It has no.

[Charlie Hurt]

We love you, Japan.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's disgusting.

[Rosanna Scotto]

It's fish.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, Japan. They're eating fried chicken.

[Jesse Watters]

Yes.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Avocado toast. Or like avocado everything.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, Avocado. But although avocado is fun, it's nature's.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I don't like avocado. I don't like the consistency.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's nature's mayonnaise.

[Rosanna Scotto]

It's a good fat.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, you just. It's a good smeared on stuff. Speaking of that, Charlie, the little boxes.

[Jesse Watters]

Of chocolates that have the. You. You open it and it's got fruit in it.

[Charlie Hurt]

Oh, I hate the.

[Jesse Watters]

Or, like, it's got, like, jelly in the chocolate on the inside.

[Charlie Hurt]

Yet you give it to people every Christmas.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah. And then. And they're very grateful for it. And they're, like, excited about it. And then you can't find one that doesn't have the marshmallow in it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm just gonna go with vegetables. Right. Vegetables. Come on. You know, what if they didn't have good pr. Nobody.

[Jesse Watters]

It would be so hostile to any one of us to come up with vegetables.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Really? Yeah, you would have been okay. I'm sorry.

[Charlie Hurt]

You should eat more vegetables.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Al G. Says, have you tried to look cool in front of someone and. And failed, Charlie?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Every day.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah. Like my existence. Yeah. I wake up every day and then I embarrassed guys.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You know what? Anytime you try to act cool, you will fail.

[Jesse Watters]

True.

[Rosanna Scotto]

See?

[Greg Gutfeld]

And women, right? Well, I'm answering the question, Jessica. Do you even try to act cool? You're just a. You're just like. You're a tall chick, you're kind of dorky, you know, very attractive. No, she doesn't have to act. That's what I'm saying. Women don't act.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That's what I do. I think. I think a lot about trying to find points of connection with people that I value. So that is trying tack cool in some way to be like, oh my God, I read this thing. You'd be really interested in it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, is that why you do that? It's really annoying, Jesse.

[Charlie Hurt]

I used to think it was really cool to have like great posture. So I used to like walk in the room and be like this and stuff. Just like this. And then I look like an idiot.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, you should stop.

[Charlie Hurt]

I don't do that anymore. This is many years ago, Rosanna.

[Rosanna Scotto]

I stopped doing that at 17, you know. At 17?

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah.

[Rosanna Scotto]

You want to be cool. I think when you get older, you're just like, I'm me. And if you don't like it, too bad.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, I always tried to look cool by doing a lot of charity work. And then I realized, why am I doing this?

[Charlie Hurt]

It's so.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's like, why am I doing such a fake thing? So I stopped doing charity. If time machine. Time machines were real, where would you go, Jesse? Where would you go?

[Charlie Hurt]

We're going 69. That's the best year. You got the Beatles, you got all those great musicians.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, you mean 1969. I thought you meant like 69 A.D. oh, no, no.

[Charlie Hurt]

I'm talking 1969, Greg. It's like flower power. You could do all kinds of. You got Hendrix, you got Woodstock free. I might have gotten drafted. I might have gone to NOM and got, you know.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, you would have got people. You would have got Bone Jones. You would have bone spurs.

[Charlie Hurt]

Probably.

[Jesse Watters]

Definitely.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Do we know anyone else who had bones?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Charlie?

[Jesse Watters]

I'd go back to the founding just cause it's nerdy.

[Charlie Hurt]

But you don't have electricity.

[Jesse Watters]

No, no, no. The reason that I would do it, I Didn't get to. The reason that I would do it is because you would not have electricity. You wouldn't have running water. Everybody would have to work. You'd have to travel by horse. Everything would just make a lot more sense. And I think that I would like that a lot more than the stranger.

[Charlie Hurt]

In the green room. He told me he would go back then because he wanted to kill Indians.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, wow. It's horrible, Rosanna.

[Rosanna Scotto]

I kind of like the 40s and 50s. I would watch all those movies. Everybo glamorous. They smoked a lot, they drank, not a care in the world. And they dressed. They went to the airport. They were dressed.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes.

[Charlie Hurt]

Yes. We can smoke and drink now, too.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Sean Duffy's dream.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes, Jessica.

[Jesse Watters]

Yes.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Roaring 20s seemed cool, but I would actually be a little sentimental about it. I'd like to go back to when my dad was alive. So that could only just be like 2019.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. I'm kind of with you. I would go prior to the 1920s, before women could vote.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Vote.

[Jesse Watters]

One more thing.

[Charlie Hurt]

Se when the country was. Signed out for one more thing. Gigi.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, we got a great show tonight. We got cat Tim, Some guy named Charlie Hurt, Dagan McDowell and Tyrus. That's tonight at 10. Hey, let's do this. It's been a while. Animals are great. Animals are great.

[Charlie Hurt]

Animals are great.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, this is special. Meet Ozzy. That's a four year old mastiff. Is that how you say it? From Oklahoma. He has the world's longest tongue at 7.83 inches. And it's measured from the end of the snout to the tip of the tongue. He beat the previous record which was 5.64 inches, like by 2 inches. And there's already a bidding war for him between Don Lemon, Kevin Spacey.

[Jessica Tarlov]

So gross.

[Charlie Hurt]

Oh, man. You have so many apologies to me, Charlie.

[Jesse Watters]

Yeah. From that to this. Join Fox News at our Winter Wonderland Experience. There won't be a dog with an 11 inch tongue.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yes.

[Jesse Watters]

But it'll be live on Fox Square today through Sunday. Step inside our oversized Fox News snow globe for a family photo. Watch live ballerina performances. Meet Santa Claus and more. Explore the Winter Wonderland Experience and the magic of the holidays this weekend only on Fox Square in midtown Manhattan. Isn't that nice?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Wow, that's really wholesome.

[Charlie Hurt]

And you get to throw snowballs at Griff Jenkins. Yeah, that's true. As hard as you want. In the face. He likes it. The Powerball. Are you guys ready? It's a billion dollars. Who wants to be a billionaire? I do. I bought A ticket? Well, my staff bought one.

[Jesse Watters]

And.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, what if you win?

[Jesse Watters]

Then the staff gets it.

[Charlie Hurt]

No, they don't.

[Jesse Watters]

Yes, they do.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They'll sue them.

[Charlie Hurt]

99.9% of them.

[Jesse Watters]

You wouldn't give your staff. You wouldn't split it with them. They bought it. They bought the ticket. 9 to 10. Who picked the numbers?

[Charlie Hurt]

I think they were chosen at random, but. What are you, his lawyer?

[Jesse Watters]

I'm just wondering.

[Charlie Hurt]

You want to be my lawyer? My lawyer, Charlie, or my enforcer? Tonight, Jesse Waters primetime BLM baddies laundering money.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Oh, wow.

[Charlie Hurt]

See what we did there?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. Very little.

[Charlie Hurt]

Jessica.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Okay. A Florida 711 got a surprise visit from a huge 10 foot long gator. With help from an alligator wrangler, a real job, Sarasota county officers were able to remove the gator. Nobody was hurt. See you later, alligator. See what I did there?

[Jesse Watters]

I love it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Landed that one.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Thank you.

[Rosanna Scotto]

All right. On Pearl Harbor Day, a team of American skydivers reclaimed the world record for the largest flag ever deployed during free fall. The team jumped from a Vietnam era Huey about 10,000ft in the air. They deployed a 170 pound, 3,000 square foot flag. The jump almost doubled the previous record held by Libya. Star stripes and a whole lot of Libya.

[Charlie Hurt]

We beat Libya.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Nice.

[Greg Gutfeld]

What difference does that make?

[Jesse Watters]

Very difference.

[Charlie Hurt]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

Wherever you get your podcasts.