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Emily Compagno
Hello, everyone. I'm Emily Compagno along with Jessica Tarloff, Jesse Waters, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City, and this is the five liberals are waltzing themselves into peak derangement over the construction of Trump's big, beautiful ballroom. Hillary Clinton said, quote, it's not his house, it's your house, and he's destroying it. Gavin Newsom twirled in next, saying, quote, ripping apart the White House just like he's ripping apart the Constitution. And Elizabeth Warren sent up a smoke signal. Never mind that Barack Obama built his basketball court, Richard Nixon rolled in a bowling alley, and plenty of other presidents did a little home renovation of their own. But President Trump adds a taxpayer Free ballroom, and suddenly the left's doing the meltdown mambo.
Jesse Waters
Donald Trump wants to be a king. It's the best explanation for everything he's been doing just in recent days. Just look at what he's doing right now to the White House.
Emily Compagno
It does to me, when I look at it quickly look like a Kim.
Jessica Tarloff
Jong Un propaganda video, right.
Emily Compagno
Of, you know, when he does the.
Jessica Tarloff
Nukes on Washington or whatever it might be.
Emily Compagno
There's something disturbing about it.
Jessica Tarloff
This unprecedented moment, as an apt metaphor, Trump's demolishing the White House as he also demolishes our country's constitutional norms and rule of law.
Jesse Waters
A perfect metaphor for how President Trump.
Dana Perino
Was trying to bulldoze his political foes.
Jessica Tarloff
I tell you what I don't care.
Jesse Waters
About, I don't care about that damn ballroom.
Jessica Tarloff
I'll tell you that.
Emily Compagno
If you thought that was deranged. MSNBC's Jen Psaki was making some truly despicable comments about Vice President J.D. vance's wife, Usha Vance. Watch.
Jesse Waters
I think the little Manchurian candidate, J.D. vance, wants to be president more than anything else. I always wonder what's going on in.
Greg Gutfeld
The mind of his wife.
Emily Compagno
Like, are you okay?
Jesse Waters
Please blink four times.
Emily Compagno
Well, come over here. We'll save you.
Jesse Waters
He's scarier in certain ways. He's smarter in some ways, and he's young.
Emily Compagno
And Jeff Daniels, yes, Mr. Dumb and Dumber himself, is clutching his pearls and unfortunately, his guitar over Trump's meme machine.
Dana Perino
The meme that he had where he was flying with the crown and the, you know, spewing excrement all over the.
Jesse Waters
People down below the country.
Jessica Tarloff
America.
Dana Perino
Yeah.
Jesse Waters
China.
Dana Perino
Would Lincoln have done that? This is a song I wrote called Crazy World, which is how I cope.
Jesse Waters
This crazy world's going crazy. Who am I to judge.
Dana Perino
It'S nice to know in a world full of.
Jesse Waters
Hate, there's someone out there still making love.
Emily Compagno
Jessica, who out there is making love? Cuz all I hear in their private therapy sessions gone public is total hatred toward President Trump and. And a complete ignoring of history where at least 13 presidents did the same thing, some of them with taxpayer dimes.
Greg Gutfeld
Okay, so I'm going to do this part quickly because I don't want to end up in a reel that you're showing tomorrow. And I'm not actually having a meltdown about the ballroom, but I will say that it is nothing like any of the other renovations. I mean, his ballroom is almost double the size of the White House itself. And he is not using taxpayer dollars. He's using his own dollars, maybe, or the dollars of companies that want favorable treatment, like Google, Palantir, all with big contracts with him. But Trump and Caroline Levitt and the whole administration would rather that. This is what we're focused on. And it's really getting away from the real stories of the moment. We are in the midst of a government shutdown. The Republican caucus from New Jersey wrote to Mike Johnson saying, you got to make a short term deal. Our constituents cannot handle these ACA premium hikes. Our farmers are losing their businesses. No soybeans coming out of America. We bail out Argentina and then Argentina gets the contract. That's what those texts remember with Scott Bessen and Brooke Rollins. And just before we came on air, the National Cattlemen's Beef association said, cattlemen and women cannot stand behind President Trump while he undercuts the future of family farmers and ranchers by importing Argentinian beef. Those are the stories of what is happening in America today. That is how Donald Trump's administration is hurting everyday Americans, most of whom voted for him. So the ballroom, it is a monstrosity. But I am choosing to talk about the shutdown and what's happening to our ranchers and our farmers.
Emily Compagno
Yeah, and Jesse, so too are Americans. And Trump himself, actually, who is also talking about the shutdown and the Democrats refusal. He's just building on the side. He can actually do multiple things at one time. And I want to talk about the hypocrisy, for example, of Hillary Clinton chiming in her pres. Her husband was one of those presidents that rent. He, for example, brought the putty and green closer to the Oval Office. So after he enjoys his cigars, he could, I guess, take less steps. She personally oversaw a complete renovation of the inside of the dining room. The list goes on. Are they going to exhume Woodrow Wilson for destroying the colonial garden. I'm just not quite sure why now, when it's actually upgrading what prior presidents upgraded using taxpayer funds. Jessica brought up Silicon Valley companies funds. The biggest recipient of Silicon Valley donor money to this day has been Kamala Harris. There's no way to spin this. He's doing this for the people.
Dana Perino
You're very excited today, aren't you? I love this crooked stole about 80 grand in silverware and furniture. So, okay, right. The thing Jessica is saying, you know, she will get invited to dance at the big, beautiful ballroom if there's ever a Democrat president again. Maybe there won't be, but if she does get the invite, she'll go and she'll look great and she'll do the cha cha and she'll take a photo and post it, and it'll be fantastic. This is like all the things Democrats do. They complain and complain, and then all of a sudden when there's like, lower taxes and lower crime, they're secretly happy about it. Barack Obama himself wanted a big, beautiful ballroom. He had to hold a state dinner in a tent. In a tent. In a tent in the United States of America. How stupid is that? This whole East Wing, or whatever you call it, it was just a ruse to cover up a bunker. There's an underground bunker down there. That's the whole reason we have the East Wing in the first place. And Democrats had this whole epiphany. Remember the whole book that came out, Abundance? We have to be able to do things. We have to be able to build things. We have to be able to make things work. Okay, so Trump's building stuff and they're against it. They can't build anything. All they do is destroy. They destroy cities. They tear down statues. At least Trump's demolishing something and he's building it back up. Look at the Palisades. That's a demolition site. And Gavin Newsom hasn't even cut any tape there. This guy is modernizing the country.
Jesse Waters
AI.
Dana Perino
We're building nuclear power plants. Bitcoin, he's rewiring world trade with. We have to go into this century with the full force of American ingenuity. And if it means a big, beautiful ballroom, if it means bitcoin, if it means a grand arch in the middle of D.C. that's a good thing.
Jesse Waters
Beauty.
Dana Perino
Jessica is a good thing. And this woman talking about the marriage between JD And Usha. Talk about the Obamas marriage. That marriage is a wreck. They're in marriage counseling. She should look over There. And this guy, Jeff Daniels, okay, Trump's a meme lord. He's strafing feces over everybody. And Democrats are like, ah, wasn't like a day ago. They were like, we need to up our social media game.
Jesse Waters
We need.
Dana Perino
And they were like, Gavin's the man. He's crushing it on social media. And then Trump puts Hakeem in a sombrero and they cry. You know, he puts a funny thing out that breaks the Internet and they complain. They bring out a 70 year old actor to play guitar. Think about how that looks. It doesn't look good. And they're mad that he's having fun.
Emily Compagno
I'm curious, Dana, because you being press secretary, a lot of Trump's improvements have been toward pragmatic improvements of the grounds. He talked about the people on the lawn sinking in. Like he's, he's making it a better experience for the vehicle that will drive again, information to the people's hands. So are you supportive of all of those?
Jessica Tarloff
I don't know. I'm, I'm a, I'm pretty much a traditionalist all, all the time. But I do know that when your heels sink into the grass, it is embarrassing. And I do not know how the first lady, she, she can do it so well without sinking in, in her heels. It's a, it's an astounding thing. I understand what they're doing. I also think that future presidents, if they don't like the Rose Garden look, they can change it. You can't change the, the East Wing situation. And I do think that, yes, the photos are a little bit jarring. And yes, it seemed like all of a sudden because they move at a very quick pace. And I think a little bit of heads up, guys, this is coming and it's going to be amazing. Would have been worthwhile exercise. But I also think that Democrats need to understand that they cannot swing at every pitch. They just do that. Jessica was saying the same thing that you have to ask yourself every day, what headline do you want at the end of today? President Trump wants 25 headlines every day, and it works for them. It gets confusing to me. I think even for me covering it, it's like, wait, where do I look? It's like you can be a raccoon and a room full of disco balls. It's like, where do we look next? Because there are so many things that are going on, but the Democrats really have one singular focus is how do they win the midterms and how do it back in 2028? What we've already seen is the rinse and repeat. If they're going to all of a sudden immediately now in the first term, first year of the second term, start calling J.D. vance basically Hitler. So we know that you're never going to move on from Trump because they're going to try any. It doesn't matter who it is. Jeb Bush could come back and try to run for president and they will call him Hitler and try to tie him to Trump because that's what they think is their ticket to ride. But it really has been their ticket to nowhere. And that's why they're not going to win. And I don't think they're going to win either of these gubernatorial races in the next two weeks.
Bret Baier
Wow.
Dana Perino
Big prediction by Perino. I like that.
Jessica Tarloff
I might be wrong about one of them.
Emily Compagno
Greg, what do you think?
Jesse Waters
Well, you know, I seem to remember under Joe Biden, we were dealing with different issues. I know it's crazy, but I seem to remember on this show and talking to people, we talked about crime, we talked about a broken border, we talked about trans mania, we talked about the price of eggs and the price of gas. And we talked about a president who wasn't there. God, from 20 to 24. I wish we had this problem. I wish that we were sitting around talking about Joe Biden trying to fix up the White House rather than letting his son do lines off the toilet in the East Wing. Hillary criticizing someone for denigrating the White House. I mean, at least when Trump wanted the floor stained, he got a professional. And it's true, Trump is building a ballroom, but for Hillary's husband, every room was a ballroom. You know what I'm saying, young lady? This is a press gimmick. When they focus on some ephemeral activity and they pretend it's the only thing happening. It's like doing a damning story on a fireman caught talking on his phone and leaving out the part that he had just rescued orphans and puppies from a fire. And he's on the phone calling his wife, saying, honey, I adopted an orphan and a Chihuahua. That part is not in the story. So instead, they say, like, oh, they forget about. What has Trump been working on? Well, the Middle east peace deal. That was just a few days ago. That was just a few days ago. He's dealing with Putin and Zelensky. That's tough work. He's got immigration, he's got the crime, the border, you name it. Jeff Daniels is right. Lincoln would definitely not release an AI Meme and Also, Ben Franklin would never call an Uber. Thomas Jefferson would never post his orgies on pornhub, that's for sure. It's amazing how Trump could take comedic actors, saw him there, and flip them into, like, these humorless gas bags where he actually goes on tv. That guy is a comedic actor, and he's as funny as shingles. You know, I think the issue is, is that these people, and I'll say everybody from De Niro to Jeff Daniels, they have a problem with Trump because he's real. He's not playing a role. These people find joy in their characters, in being inside a character, but when they're not in it, they're detached, they're dissociated. Their reality and their thoughts and the world around them, they're not connected to it. Imagine your whole life where you're happier someone else, and then you're faced with somebody like Trump who's happy being Trump, and you don't understand it. It's like these are people that are just not comfortable when they aren't acting. That's what makes a great actor, is not having no self, not having no self, not having a self. Anyway, that's my psychoanalysis for today. I'm afraid this is all the time we have. Emily, it's $300, and I'll take a check.
Emily Compagno
Venmo on its way. All right, guys, up next, the left is now fighting for illegal street vendors. That's next.
Jessica Tarloff
Optimism isn't sunshine and rainbows.
Jesse Waters
It's fixing things, changing things, changing the way we fix things.
Emily Compagno
Things rolled up sleeves, breaking through growing.
Jesse Waters
Power to meet growing needs. Working to run the world on smarter energy every day.
Emily Compagno
Taking power where the grid's never been.
Jesse Waters
Then getting up and doing it again. Because if optimism never stops, then change can't either. GE Vernova the energy of change.
Dana Perino
Strong love is what we've got.
Jesse Waters
When it's hot, it's hot. Chaos breaking out of NYC's Chinatown. ICE agents raiding a canal street and going after sidewalk vendors selling counterfeit purses. They bagged nine illegal aliens with rap sheets, including robbery, domestic violence, assaulting law enforcement, counterfeiting, drug trafficking, forgery. But right on cue, the awful shock troops showed up to fight on their behalf. What you're doing? Show your face. Come on. What are you scared about? What the are you scared about?
Emily Compagno
They're fat Nazis.
Jesse Waters
They're abducting people from their homes and their schools and their jobs, and they.
Emily Compagno
Know what they're doing is wrong and.
Dana Perino
They don't give a because they're heartless monsters.
Jesse Waters
Oh, she's a barrel of laughs. And now House Dems are launching a master ICE tracker, or mitt, to keep tabs on federal agents looking to round up illegals. All right, I'm going to go to you first, Jessica, because we live very close to each other. I am by this area every single day. When I walk my dog, you cannot walk. There it is. And I'm going to use a phrase that I do not use often. It's a third world country. It is aggressive. It is the smell of drugs. There are fights. It's a drug fueled haze of men yelling at each other. And these women are defending men who use this money, send this money to organized crime groups that then do it in drug and human trafficking. So they're actually defending guys that are really bad to women.
Greg Gutfeld
This would not have been the moment that I would have spoken out against ice. You know, it is not only, you know, a blight on the neighborhood in terms of navigability and what it looks like and convenience and all of the things, but a lot of these guys are actually the bad hombres that Trump was talking about, but from Africa mostly. So, you know, when this happens and when there is footage of it like this, it supersedes the story that I think is very valid to tell about what ICE is doing in other places. And you saw as well that the NYPD posted that they weren't involved in this at all in this particular raid, which obviously got a lot of national attention. But the NYPD does regularly do this or breaks it up. They're not necessarily taking them in to deport them. So I'm not thrilled with this particular example. I, you know, there's a lot of reason to not like ice. I would not have been in that group.
Jesse Waters
I was there. I guess it was, I don't know, it was Saturday. And I watched these guys surround two cops New York and just mock them and aggressively basically surround and go like, go back to your desk job. They. They just like basically left. They couldn't do anything instead of saying.
Jessica Tarloff
Go back to your country.
Jesse Waters
Yeah, yeah. They were like, go back to your office and just screaming at him. So this is another examp of somehow you're supposed to accept this behavior and Trump saying, no, you don't. You don't have to live this way.
Jessica Tarloff
Well, the issue of tracking and exposing ICE is really a gigantic problem in the country. And what's crazy about it, it's being encouraged by elected leaders. I don't know the details of what the House Democrats are talking about creating in terms of an ICE tracker, but that seems wildly inappropriate, if not illegal. The other thing is there's a group I just had to put my phone here. It's called A21. It's a nonprofit organization that I've been in touch with in the past. And they said, in addition to the problems that you have with these illegal immigrants and the crimes that they had committed, is that most of these products, not only are they counterfeit, but they are made with slave labor, often child slave labor. So if you want to ask, like, how can I help stop child slave labor? Like, I imagine that that young woman screaming probably hates the idea of child slave labor, but yet she was there to mock the ICE agents that was trying to break up the situation. I also find that it's unsafe and it's uncomfortable. It's not just Canal street, which I've never been to, but just like around here.
Bret Baier
Yeah.
Jessica Tarloff
And I've never. When I see people getting off of the tour buses and like, oh, I'm so excited by this fake bag, it really drives me crazy.
Bret Baier
Yeah.
Jesse Waters
Well, as you know, I'm against slave labor. Now, Emily, I need to ask you this because I can't ask Jesse this because then he'll get us into trouble. Why do you think it's women? Like, why do women like, they call it suicidal empathy, where they, they. They give their compassion to something that would actually destroy them. I don't understand. I mean, I kind of understand it, but I'm wondering what you think.
Emily Compagno
I don't know, because I'm missing that compassion chip. So I feel like you should ask Jessica that. I. Because for me, I hold nothing but contempt for these individuals. The quote that I heard on the closed captioning, we know that you are a Nazi, you ethnic cleansing agenda. It is horrifying to me. This isn't compassion. This isn't care. This isn't stewardship for others. This is absolutely unacceptable to me. And I spoke with a New Jersey state trooper who founded the Troopers United Foundation. He works with these agents every day. He's on part of these joint missions. And he talked about, let's remind her, you know, you brought about up the government shutdown. A lot of these federal agents right now, they're not getting paid. So we are watching them on tv. They're out there because they believe in the mission, because they are purpose driven. They are putting their lives on the line. They travel around the country for days at a time with their families at home, watching this on tv and Many of them, because of their federal backgrounds, you know, they're not used to. And they're not quite trained for being screamed at and surrounded by protesters. They train for precision, not mob psychology. And now we have them thrust into these public, volatile situations. That should be a clean law enforcement operation. And all of a sudden, you have these bystanders that think of themselves as virtuous and are absolutely interfering with a federal operation, and they are creating the chaos.
Jesse Waters
Look how mad she is.
Emily Compagno
Exactly. Look at that. You are watching a federal agent that instead of using his resources and his physiology to protect the operation, he's protecting himself from a fellow civilian. This is weighing on them. The constant moral scrutiny, the everyday. Is this the moment that will define my career? Being caught on camera or that will lead to an injury? All of this has gotten so much bigger. And the fact that even you mentioned respectfully, there's lots of reasons to not like, ice. These men and women have their lives on the line. That is ice. Her with her Washington commander's hat. Hey, happy Redskins. And she's the one that's gonna go home and pat herself on the back after she gets DoorDash for $46 for her latte. They are doing nothing but interfering and making these agents even more vulnerable to injury. And I think they need to be arrested stat.
Jesse Waters
You know, Jesse, there's a couple of variables here. One, I do believe these women are unhappy because they buy the fake Gucci bags. But. But. But number two, they don't have any. They don't have any connection with the people who actually make this stuff. All this money could be traced back to terrorist groups. Again, slave labor, but they don't care. They just. Virtue signaling.
Jessica Tarloff
Yeah.
Dana Perino
I'm just mad I don't have any place to go Christmas shopping for Emma. I used to clean up. She had no idea she had so many nice bags in her closet. I like how these conservative influencers, like, told Trump about this. In, like, 24 hours. Later, these guys were gone. He's like, America's concierge. Do you say that? Is that the right way?
Jesse Waters
Yeah.
Dana Perino
He come to you and you're like, Mr. President. And he's like, well, let me do something about that. Let me see if I can help you with that. And he's always there with a solution.
Jesse Waters
He got me reservations at Mr. Chao.
Dana Perino
I mean, honestly, he would. He would call and get you a table. Imagine Jessica when Biden was president, she could say, you know, it would be great if we had an electric car charging station right outside of the Midtown tunnel. And like a day later, Biden would be down there breaking ground. He doesn't listen. Trump listens. And that's beautiful. And I love the conservative influencers are actually fighting crime and Democrat influencers are actually causing crime. They ram their cars into ICE agents and no one's saying, have you heard? No Democrat is saying, can you guys stop attacking ice? I haven't heard a single Democrat say stop assaulting ICE agents. That's crazy. And I was talking to Anna Polina Luna, who I love to say the name, yes, Anapolina Luna. And she said she overheard Democrats on the House floor saying that their whole strategy here is to attack ICE to boost Hispanic turnout in the midterm elections. So they're only doing this casual conversation. They're only doing this for votes. They're putting ICE agents lives in danger for votes always.
Jesse Waters
All right, up next, James Carville fillets a Democrat who's open to gender neutral Olympics.
Jessica Tarloff
As a business owner, I've got a lot.
Jesse Waters
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Dana Perino
Are the Democrats really this stupid? James Carville nuking a liberal California candidate for governor who's open to the idea of the 2028 gender neutral Olympics?
Jesse Waters
What? But I have a lot of friends that have daughters that play soccer, play volleyball, run track, play softball. You know, what their parents don't want.
Bret Baier
Them doing for good reason is competing with males.
Jesse Waters
What you are doing, you understand what you're doing to try to do some kind of cheap political point with a bunch of left wing zombies is you're ruining the women that work their off.
Dana Perino
All right, Dana, the gender neutral Olympics.
Jessica Tarloff
Yeah, that doesn't seem like something FOX Sports is going to cover. I think we're going to take a pass on that. You know, once again, James Carville is probably somebody that Democrats don't want to listen to, but he's not wrong. And just yesterday was actually weird about this absurdity is that in the gubernatorial race in Virginia, which is just a couple of weeks away, you still have a Democratic candidate in Abigail Spamberger. Sorry about it. But you know, they can't just definitively talk about girls and sports and gender appropriate bathrooms and just like leave it at that. They are still like sort of tiptoeing around it even as we found out late last week or this week that the numbers of young people identifying as trans or gender neutral has plummeted as if the fad is over.
Jesse Waters
Yeah.
Dana Perino
You can't fill field an Olympic team if no one's identifying as trans.
Jesse Waters
Well, we know Spanberger has no balls because she's not standing up for women. I think you got to see why. Not just what the issue is, but how did it spread so quickly? And it comes down to the framing. If you look back at like all the trans stuff, it was all benefits, no consequences, which is no part, has no part in reality. Everything is trade offs. If you go on statins, they're going to tell you there are side effects. If you're going to move to a new city. Oh, you're going to have. There's going to be a downside with the, the traveling. If you have kids, there's a downside and an upside. But transitioning your kid. Oh, it's all upside. Right. Because if you talk about the downside, you're a transphobe. That was the power of this contagion is that they silenced the consequences and they redefined the logic of trade offs as hate speech, in fact. But it probably wasn't just trans. If you talked about the downside of an open border, then that made you racist. It was crazy. It's crazy. There is a downside to this stuff and nobody did it. And then what that did was that made it incredibly attractive for people because not just the kids, the parents, the teachers, the activists, they all kind of became part of this, participated in this magical thing that was all upside. Never mind that you're gonna butcher a child. That never comes up. There's no data, there's no science and there was no journalism. Nobody talked about it. Nobody talked about it. And it's so chilly to see how amazingly fast that it's spread. So we to again, I said this last week, you have to arm your children on the ability to identify a social contagion. And maybe one of the things is, is that if no one tells you about the downside.
Dana Perino
Yeah. And they did that so you couldn't debate them.
Jesse Waters
Yes.
Dana Perino
And when the voters had to say we let them know how we felt.
Jesse Waters
Then they shot Charlie Kirk.
Dana Perino
Yeah.
Jesse Waters
Sorry. But it's true.
Greg Gutfeld
I. It's an 8020 issue. Don't be stupid.
Emily Compagno
I think it's a 991 issue. A client actually, actually more than that.
Dana Perino
Give her a chance.
Jessica Tarloff
Oh, sorry.
Emily Compagno
I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Greg Gutfeld
Don't apologize to me.
Dana Perino
No, it's funny because the.
Jesse Waters
Did you apologize to me, Emily?
Dana Perino
She's 80, 20, and shuts up. You jump down her throat. But it's okay.
Greg Gutfeld
It's what you usually do with a guest.
Emily Compagno
Yeah, I had a client, 12 years old, California, flashed by a male adult. Perp chased her for a little bit. So she called the cops, you know, participated in a lineup. There were searches for him.
Jessica Tarloff
Right.
Emily Compagno
It was a felony charge. And now we're supposed to tell our daughters that when that happens in a locker room that it's all of a sudden, okay. And I think about this woman who was prosecuted in Arizona at a mall, and she was breaking up with her boyfriend and he had cheated on her. So she's like found fines out there and she's like taking off her clothes, like this isn't good enough for you. You maybe not appropriate, but sort of understandable. Well, she was charged with lewd and lascivious and also a felony because there were children around her at the mall. And so you take these two examples, and one of them abjectly frightening and one clearly sort of checking a box. But I get the reasoning behind. And somehow that has been laid to waste during this entire movement where, for example, the California Interscholastic Federation, they estimate that there are single digits transgender athletes in the state of California with 6 million athletes just up to high school. And so people who say, oh, but that only affects. It's only a couple of people. Well, what about the multiple teams in the Mountain West Conference that forfeited at San Jose State University because they didn't want to get mauled in the face by volleyball spiked by a dude? So the argument that this somehow is private or doesn't affect anyone or somehow magically overnight comes out of the criminal law box and becomes in the moral transgender rights box, to me is sickening.
Dana Perino
You know how you handle the transgender Olympics, Emily? You let the women take steroids and then you have the transgender guys be clean. And that makes it more fair. Problem solved.
Jesse Waters
There you go.
Dana Perino
Problem solved.
Jesse Waters
You are a peacemaker.
Dana Perino
Up next, he's not just anchoring the news, he's anchoring history. Bret Baier is here to preview his new book about Teddy Roosevelt.
Jesse Waters
I'm Elmer Heinrich.
Jessica Tarloff
Brett Bear showed up early to work today and for good reason. He's got a brand new book hot off the press. It's called To Rescue the American Spirit, Teddy Roosevelt and the Birth of a Superpower. Plus, he's got a new Fox Nation special streaming right now. And he joins us live on the five set with this beautiful book. How's it going?
Bret Baier
It's good. You know, it's so good to be on this side instead of the handover. I never know what's coming.
Jessica Tarloff
You love the handover?
Bret Baier
I do, I love it. Don't you think it's good that we got it back?
Jessica Tarloff
I think it's great. Yes, we are a box of chocolates.
Bret Baier
I never know what I'm going to.
Greg Gutfeld
Get when they say no toss. But then sometimes you pop up anyway.
Bret Baier
Yeah.
Dana Perino
We never know when you're going to be on your own show.
Bret Baier
I do listen to the show. You do your show.
Dana Perino
I can tell.
Bret Baier
Yeah. I pay attention.
Emily Compagno
Tell us about this book. We're so cute.
Jesse Waters
Thank you, Emily.
Bret Baier
Listen, this character who is the 26th president is larger than life. And I think it jumps off the page. And, you know, he is somebody who has a long history and the stories inside are really, really interesting. You know, here in New York, he was a New York state legislator, New York police commissioner, he was New York governor. He goes on to be vice president because basically the party says we got to put him someplace. He's a troublemaker. And they put him in vice president to make him disappear. And then six months later, William McKinley is assassinated in Buffalo and he becomes president, the youngest president ever in our country at 42. But it's amazing, the stories in here. And I think to look at history is really important.
Dana Perino
And one of the stories, I mean, he was shot.
Emily Compagno
Yeah.
Dana Perino
I mean, just like Trump, there's a lot of similarities here. And he got right back up.
Bret Baier
So in Milwaukee, he gets shot. He's giving a speech. The bullet hits an eyeglass case and a 50 page speech into his chest. And there's a lot of blood. And he pulls open his jacket and it's just full of blood on his shirt. And he keeps speaking for 45 minutes in Milwaukee. And that's when he was running in third party. He doesn't win, but Woodrow Wilson eventually takes the presidency.
Jesse Waters
Wow. Yeah, there is a lot. There's actually a lot of similarities. Okay, so Teddy Roosevelt with Trump.
Bret Baier
Yeah.
Jesse Waters
New Yorker. He was born of privilege, but had this amazing connection with workers. He loved horses and Trump, you know, Stormy. Daniel, Greg, how to work towards that joke. Anywho, I finished reading the book. It's fantastic.
Bret Baier
Thank you.
Jesse Waters
Is there something about Teddy Roosevelt that we might not know about that might surprise us?
Bret Baier
So he was a boxer. And his dad, he starts. He was born with really bad asthma and he can't even leave the house. And his dad kind of Bucks him up and says, you've got to get physically fit. He goes outdoors. That's why he loves the outdoors. But he's a boxer all his life. He's New York governor. He hires a boxing comes in and the boxing coach is like, I'm not going to hit this guy. It's the governor. And he gets really mad at him and says, you have to hit me. So the boxing coach hits him and then he knocks out the boxing coach. He is like a tough, tough guy who, you know, fought for everything.
Jessica Tarloff
I have a couple questions. Charles Krauthammer, the late Charles Krauthammer used to say that young people, if they didn't know what they wanted to major in, he encouraged all of them to study history. So what has benefited you in your current role as the anchor of Special Report and doing all of these major interviews around the world with world leaders, that your book writing has helped you?
Bret Baier
That's awesome. Question. It's the sixth presidential biography. I think I've been here for everyone. Eisenhower, Reagan, fdr, Grant, Washington, and now Teddy Roosevelt. But each time there is something that affects current day, always something that we can look back at that it's cyclical history. And I think it tells us about. There's a lot of similarities.
Jessica Tarloff
Where are we going to go?
Bret Baier
Yeah, yeah. I mean, it tells us no.
Jessica Tarloff
Where are we going to go? What's happening?
Bret Baier
Well, I mean, I think there's a battle for being a global leader.
Jessica Tarloff
Are we going to a Nobel Peace Prize?
Bret Baier
I bet you'll get a Nobel Peace Prize next year.
Jessica Tarloff
He's the only one that ever got one.
Bret Baier
That's true. And you've seen it in the White House.
Jessica Tarloff
I've seen it in the Roosevelt Room. My other question is, would he have wanted a big, beautiful ballroom?
Bret Baier
He redid the White House completely. He was one of 14 presidents who renovated the White House. And I don't know if they focused on the girders in the construction, but he would have wanted the big ballroom. 100%.
Jessica Tarloff
Congrats.
Bret Baier
Thank you very much.
Jessica Tarloff
Great to have you. And we'll look forward to more awkward handoffs.
Bret Baier
I tell you what, Brit, Hume would really like this.
Jesse Waters
Amazing.
Bret Baier
He would really like this.
Jesse Waters
A captivating read. I have to tell. I mean, the great Dolores Kearns Godwin, just discussing.
Bret Baier
I don't have my bowling shirt.
Jessica Tarloff
All right, Brett, thank you so much. His book, To Rescue the American Spirit, it is out now. And the fastest is up next, Dolores Kern.
Jesse Waters
Have a great performance. Welcome back.
Greg Gutfeld
You probably just touched your face and didn't even notice. It turns out that we do it 800 times a day. It's your body's natural way of self. Soothing under mental strain. Dana, are you.
Jessica Tarloff
Well, as I was just reading for this segment, I realized I was tapping my chin and my cheek, and I realized I'm like. Apparently I'm under a lot of mental strain and I'm super stressed out. Yeah, but if everybody does it, then that must mean that, like, your stress isn't that big a deal. Or this is, or if everybody's equally stressed. That's not like, then you're not really stressed, Jesse.
Greg Gutfeld
You're kind of not a stressed out person.
Dana Perino
No, because when I go home before the show and I'm preparing to sit next to you, I go like this for about an hour and a half. And that really relaxes me. So nothing you can say gets under my skin.
Greg Gutfeld
I didn't mean just me. I meant, like, your whole life.
Dana Perino
You're the biggest stress of my life.
Greg Gutfeld
Right back at you, buddy. Greg.
Jesse Waters
Well, I mean, if you had this face, wouldn't you touch it? I mean, I like, I can't get enough of it. My mom used to walk in. I used to have to lock the door when I was a kid because she would walk in on me while I was just touching my face. At least that's what I told her. Do you ever think about this? Did you ever think about your skull as. Because you only see skulls from the dead people, but you know, you got one. Like, there's a skull. You got a skull that, like, is really scary looking. I don't think about that. Oh, you should. It freaks you out. I have a skull. You have. We all have these skulls and they're just moving around. But you don't really know that until you, like, die.
Jessica Tarloff
So you kick the bucket.
Jesse Waters
Yeah.
Dana Perino
You're stressing me out.
Emily Compagno
I do. Because my head is weirdly shaped in the back. So I've often thought about it. What it looks like without hair.
Dana Perino
Wait, what do you mean? What's wrong with your skull?
Emily Compagno
It's like, flat at the top and it comes out of the bottom. Wait, but it might come from when.
Greg Gutfeld
You were a baby.
Emily Compagno
Probably. I'll say this, that I hate when people touch their face. Don't touch your face around me. I think it is disgusting.
Greg Gutfeld
Dana and I are both, like, various diseases.
Emily Compagno
And you know when I cured myself of that habit of being conscious when you touch your face? Covid Remember that? And so now a. I never touch my face.
Jessica Tarloff
What did you have before this show.
Emily Compagno
A cappuccino, but literally, please don't touch our face. It is how you get it. Do you know how bright.
Jesse Waters
You know how I broke my. Broke. Exactly. I broke the habit of touching my face, smearing my fingers and feces. And I would like. I would just, like, have it on my hands and I would just. Because the moment I. Yeah, it's really smart. It's really smart.
Jessica Tarloff
Sorry. Stop biting your nail.
Greg Gutfeld
One more thing's up next.
Jesse Waters
Should I give up? Or should I just keep chasing pavement?
Emily Compagno
Even if it leads the way? Before we get to one more thing. Guys, get your tickets to the Fox Nation Patriot Awards. They are on sale now. You can also grab seats to see the Five Live on November 6th at the Tillis center in New York. Go to foxnation.com patriotawards all right, Greg, one more thing.
Jesse Waters
Thank you, Emily. Tonight, 10:00pm Cat Tim, Joe Mackey, Emily Wilson, Tyrus. Tonight at 10. Let's do this. Greg. Sexy bear news. All right, everybody, let's go to Oakland. Roll the tape. Huh? This is a grizzly bear at the Oakland Zoo. Getting a little hot there. They go in the water to cool off. But hey, great. I'm busy. I'm trying to do this one more thing. Why didn't you call me last night? I was waiting by the phone. Brett. I'm doing one more thing. Which is just leave me alone. Look, you're either in or you're out. I'm tired of you just. Just teasing me along. Either just say you love me or just move on.
Emily Compagno
Jesse, save us.
Dana Perino
You can't. No, you can't cut off bred.
Emily Compagno
I didn't know what to do.
Jessica Tarloff
Yeah, you never rap. You never rap him.
Bret Baier
All right.
Dana Perino
Sumo wrestlers, they went to London. This is the first time sumo wrestling has ever been outside of Japan. Actually was one other time, but we're not counting it. Five day tournament to show Japan's rich culture. And they're clad in very little. And that's why we love it. That's why I love it.
Jessica Tarloff
Mostly that's why you're showing it right now.
Dana Perino
And the winner of the tournament, this man in blue, not going to pronounce his name.
Jesse Waters
You know what they call this in Japan?
Jessica Tarloff
What?
Jesse Waters
The View.
Dana Perino
Tonight, Jesse Waters primetime. We have Tulsi Gabbard. Brit Hume liked that joke. Dana Lash, Billy Bush and Madison Allwell.
Emily Compagno
Nice.
Jessica Tarloff
Well, a dachshund from Tampa's taking over the Internet with her resting smile face. This little dog, she's missing a tooth apparently, but it makes her look like she's always smiling that little crooked smile. Cute one. Her name is Bella. Also, I did a great interview. I think it was great. You be the judge with Rabbi Angela Bookdahl. She's the first Asian American and woman to lead New York's Central Synagogue. And she has a new book out called Heart of a Stranger.
Jesse Waters
A female rabbi, you say?
Jessica Tarloff
Yes.
Jesse Waters
Well, my goodness. And you say she's Asian. What is the world? An Asian female RAB rabbi.
Jessica Tarloff
And that's why it's so interesting.
Jesse Waters
Wow. Why I never. What's next? Men marrying men?
Greg Gutfeld
Jessica, you got a very cute snow leopard seeing her first pumpkin.
Emily Compagno
Oh, cute.
Jesse Waters
Yeah.
Emily Compagno
Thank you. Oh, that's adorable.
Greg Gutfeld
Four days in a row.
Emily Compagno
Guys. I want to show you this because this is awesome. This is a retired US Air Force K9 reunited with her handler for retirement. Thank you for your service, both of you. Erica the canine and Tara.
Jessica Tarloff
She gets to stay with her now, course.
Jesse Waters
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Date: October 22, 2025
Host: Emily Compagno with Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Watters, Dana Perino, Greg Gutfeld
Podcast: FOX News Podcasts
This episode of "The Five," titled "Big, Bad, Ballroom," revolves around the media and political uproar over President Trump's plans to construct a grand ballroom at the White House. The panelists examine the reactions from liberal commentators, the history of presidential renovations, the deeper policy issues allegedly overshadowed by this controversy, and other hot-button news including ICE raids on illegal street vendors, gender-neutral sports, and a new Teddy Roosevelt biography. The tone is satirical, combative, and characteristically irreverent, as the hosts mix political analysis with pointed humor.
Liberal Meltdown:
Emily Compagno opens with examples of prominent Democrats lambasting Trump’s ballroom as "destroying the White House" (Hillary), "ripping apart the Constitution" (Gavin Newsom), and being wasteful, while ignoring similar renovations by past presidents.
"But President Trump adds a taxpayer free ballroom, and suddenly the left's doing the meltdown mambo." – Emily Compagno (00:44)
"King" and "Propaganda" Accusations:
The panel mocks portrayals of Trump as a would-be monarch and draws analogies to North Korean propaganda.
"Donald Trump wants to be a king. It's the best explanation for everything he's been doing..." – Jesse Watters (01:00)
"It does to me...look like a Kim Jong Un propaganda video..." – Emily Compagno/Jessica Tarlov (01:09)
False Equivalence or Hypocrisy?
Emily notes previous presidents’ renovations, funded by taxpayers, highlighting Hillary Clinton’s own role in White House changes during her husband’s term.
"Are they going to exhume Woodrow Wilson for destroying the colonial garden?" – Emily Compagno (04:43)
Underlying Policy Concerns:
Jessica Tarlov pivots, stressing that the real news should be about the government shutdown, ACA premium hikes, and the impact on American farmers, particularly Trump's beef import policy.
"We are in the midst of a government shutdown...no soybeans coming out of America. We bail out Argentina and then Argentina gets the contract..." – Jessica Tarlov (03:41)
Satirizing Democratic and Celebrity Critiques:
The panel ridicules Jeff Daniels’ protest song and Democratic reactions to Trump’s memes, comparing his social media prowess to prior president’s struggles.
"It's nice to know in a world full of hate, there’s someone out there still making love." – Dana Perino quoting Jeff Daniels’s song (02:45)
Symbolism of the Ballroom:
Greg Gutfeld concedes the ballroom is extravagant, but criticizes misplaced priorities and highlights "real stories" being eclipsed, including the farm economy and rural voters’ struggles.
Democrats’ Tactical Focus:
Dana Perino posits that Democrats often complain then enjoy the results of Republican policies, and analogizes Trump's ballroom modernization to American ingenuity and progress.
"We have to go into this century with the full force of American ingenuity. And if it means a big, beautiful ballroom...that’s a good thing." – Dana Perino (07:09)
Media Distraction:
The team mocks media fixation on the ballroom, claiming it’s a "press gimmick" to obscure policy achievements like Middle East peace deals.
"It's like doing a damning story on a fireman caught talking on his phone and leaving out the part that he had just rescued orphans and puppies from a fire." – Greg Gutfeld (12:16)
ICE Raids in Chinatown:
Jesse Watters and Greg Gutfeld discuss the ICE raids in NYC’s Chinatown, targeting illegal vendors, some with serious criminal histories.
"They bagged nine illegal aliens with rap sheets..." – Jesse Watters (14:17)
Public Backlash & "Suicidal Empathy":
Liberal activists are accused of virtue-signaling and impeding law enforcement for emotional rather than practical reasons.
"Why do women...give their compassion to something that would actually destroy them...they call it suicidal empathy." – Jesse Watters (18:48)
Safety & Slave Labor Concerns:
Jessica Tarlov adds that counterfeit products are often made with child slave labor, calling out the contradictions in activist behavior.
"Most of these products...are made with slave labor, often child slave labor." – Jessica Tarlov (17:40)
James Carville Criticizes Gender Policy:
Carville berates California Democrats for supporting gender-neutral sports, echoed by incredulity from the hosts.
"Are the Democrats really this stupid? James Carville nuking a liberal California candidate for governor..." – Dana Perino (24:11)
Social Contagion & Consequence-Free Framing:
The panel discusses the explosion and subsequent decline in youth trans-identification, attributing its spread to politicized debate and suppression of opposing views.
"If you talked about the downside of an open border, then that made you racist. It was crazy." – Jesse Watters (26:46)
Personal Stories:
Emily Compagno shares a legal anecdote comparing criminal exposure and the shifting standards under trans-inclusive bathroom laws.
"Now we're supposed to tell our daughters that when that happens in a locker room that it's all of a sudden, okay." – Emily Compagno (28:08)
Teddy Roosevelt Parallels:
Bret Baier introduces his biography of TR, discussing Roosevelt’s New York background, toughness, and history of White House renovations.
"He redid the White House completely...He would have wanted the big ballroom, 100%." – Bret Baier (34:29)
Lessons from History:
Baier and the panel comment on historical cycles and their relevance to current politics.
"Big, Bad, Ballroom" offers a classic "The Five" blend: satirical takedowns of Democratic and media reactions, partisan policy analysis, quick pivots to underlying societal issues, and pointed humor. The episode is marked by its themes of culture war, elite hypocrisy, the media’s role in setting narratives, and the panel’s insistence on the durability—and divisiveness—of Trump as a political and cultural icon. News, politics, and performance art mix, delivering both sharp sound bites and memorable comedic exchanges.