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Hello, everybody. I'm Jesse Waters along with Paul Morrow, Jessica Tarlov, Dana Perino and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. Denny. Denny. Denny. Just kidding. Michigan Senate candidate Abdul El said, campaigning like a commie in camouflage, backing policies like Medicare for all and Obama demolishing ice, but denying that he's a socialist. Snake in the grass at the final Democratic debate. When it comes to the question of
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socialism, I'm not a socialist.
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I'm just a capitalist who understands how capitalism works.
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The biggest threat to capitalism was never
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the idea of government regulation. It was always monopoly.
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And there's a reason. El Sayed, socialist in practice, but not in public. The DSA brand is becoming political poison for the party.
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A clear majority of voters say that the Democratic Party is too liberal. And you know what is fueling that?
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You know what's only adding fuel to the fire?
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How about the Democratic Socialists of America? I would argue the biggest red flag that Republicans, or excuse me, Democrats have the biggest red flag. Look at this. It's apathy. Not believing that Democrats can change anything.
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And after the new DSA co chair's insane platform went viral, some Democrats in the media are begging them to cut the commie nonsense. This is not a big tent.
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Kind of like, well, you know, like, you know, abolish prisons, abolish the border, abolish the presidency, abolish the Pentagon. I mean, this, these are crazy people.
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That's a huge problem. These are views that are, I think, represented by a very small amount of individuals.
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Some of this DSA stuff, let's be very clear, Stephanie is way out of touch.
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If Democrats want to, to make America more affordable, more fair and more free, and I think they do, they better speak truth to its most extreme base. Are they going to let a small faction of radicals drive more people toward Donald Trump?
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So finally, Greg, some Democrats are starting to stand up and say, whoa, slow down.
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It's not just that, though. You have a socialist denying that he's really a socialist. And it's, it's, it's a thing that is unique to the spectrum of the left, from the centrist liberal to the ultimate socialist. They always walk back their beliefs at every chance. You rarely hear a white right winger go, I'm not that conservative. You never hear that. But how many times have you heard a liberal Jessica say, I'm a liberal, but I'm not crazy like those nut bags.
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I'm not.
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But it's like, but it's because you kind of Innately know that leftism is loony and out of step with mainstream thinking that you have to go, yeah, I'm a little nutty, but I'm not that nutty. Meanwhile, we call, you know, you guys call us Nazis, but we get rid of our Nazis. We don't push them into the Senate and hope they win. Right now what I find is that like the DSA is saying exactly what they are to everyone and they may be the most honest leftists about what they want. They're saying what they want to take over, they're saying what they want to tax, they're saying what they want to ban. And it reveals an essential truth about socialism. And I would say the slower socialism called Democrats, is that it's all top down social engineering and it cannot exist unless you enforce it aggressively, which means it is antithetical to human nature. If this stuff was so innate, why do you have to force it down our throats? You know, capitalism doesn't need a movement. Do you know what I mean? There's no capital, there's no republican capitalist society. Socialism needs a movement because they need to force it. Capitalism, force, flaws and all, most resembles human behavior, which is we live by incentives and disincentives. We like to trade, buy and sell goods. We need that. We'll give you this. That's how it works. Socialism has to aggressively tell you that this is superior because you won't buy it. I also think people are, they're not just sick of socialism because we've heard enough about it now. There's still stuff lingering here that I think people have gotten tired of. It's the oppression politics. I think a lot of people who bought into it are now thinking that like, boy, when I say I'm oppressive, if I say that I'm being oppressed, I sound like a real wimp. When you say I am oppressed, you realize that you're a loser because you're saying, I'm not successful. And I don't know any men in my life that walk around going that I'm oppressed, maybe by their wives. But it's a confession. It's a confession. And I think what people are realizing, thankfully, is that oppression is self oppression. You're oppressing yourself.
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So you're kind of oppressing yourself at home then.
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But I enjoy it. I have an oppressive outfit that I wear.
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That's true.
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It zips up in the front and I turn upside down, right?
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Dana, there's like just now an outward fight breaking out between especially Fetterman, who's just taken the lead now, and he's gonna crush these guys if he can.
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Fetterman had a great line today. He called El Sayed the Pontiac Platner. And as Donald Trump has proven, like, a nickname can work. Because it's like, yeah, that's exactly what it is. For example, El Sayed has had pivots before. He was asked about lying about being a physician, and he said, it's not about whether I'm a doctor, it's about whether you can see a doctor. And even the interviewer was like, I don't think that's going to cut it. So one of two things is happening. Either he has seen polling that says he feels very good about his position in the primary, and he knows that it is a major loser in the general. Mike Rogers is the Republican. He only lost by, I think, 17,000 votes the last time he ran statewide. In a recent poll, it said, like, Syed would lose to him by about 10. Haley Stevens would make that race competitive, be about tide. Or he's realizing that he doesn't have enough votes in the white. What do we call them? The awfuls.
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Yeah.
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That there's not enough awfuls. I have a piece of hair on my nose. That there's not enough awfuls to get him across. And enough people under fluent white female libs. Exactly. The other thing is, when you were talking, it reminded me of Joe Biden.
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Right.
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He was supposed to be the guys get back to normal. Just total normal Democrat. And what happened when he got into office? He was like, let me just reveal my true colors. So I love that the DSA true believers will come on and tell you exactly what they think. This morning, Faz Shakir said, well, you know, Dana, that's like, not really what people think. I'm like, I'm not making it up. She said it. So they're going to have to answer for it.
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So answer to what? Greg said, Jessica. You know, it's really about degree. You guys say, you know, you're not communists. They say they want to blow open the border, but Biden did it. You guys say, you know, you don't want to abolish prisons, but you guys do cash bail, you commit a crime, you get right out. I mean, so it really is about how fast you go.
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Yeah. Well, that links to what Greg was saying where he said, you don't hear conservatives saying, well, I'm not that conservative. And so I wrote down some policy positions that mainstream conservatives take in opposition to the most conservative position, like being for ivf for instance, the most conservative position is shouldn't be allowed. Mike Pence is out there talking about how he got his family, that heartbeat bills shouldn't be implemented on a statewide level. You have that in 13 states, I think, at this point. But mainstream conservatives are like six weeks seems early. You can't even get a scan that immigrants who have been in this country and productively contributed and not broken our laws on our land should not be deported and gay marriage in general.
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These are all granular elements of larger sort. Yes, we are all on the same page with immigration. We're almost entirely on the same page with abortion.
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Donald Trump isn't even on that page with immigration. He talks about how great the people who worked in his hotels are because he used to hire a lot of people who are undocumented and that his friends call him up, who work in hospitality restaurants, the people who work on our farms, and that they're all good.
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What is the extreme position? The extreme position would be we immediately like airlift people out of their homes.
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I'm just saying that there are plenty of conservatives, whether they just want to win elections or not, who understand that the most conservative position is untenable. As far as this race goes, we'll see in Michigan if, if the primary electorate is only thinking of the primary or if they're thinking of the general. Because that poll the Dana cited, I'll say I'm losing by 10. And Haley Stevens had like a point eight percentage point lead over Mike Rogers. He was super close to Alice's lock in the last time that he ran and he could do it this time around if it is not as blue of an environment as we would, I would like, or we expect, the financial disclosures, disclosures issue for Al Sayad, I think is actually going to hurt him. So he had been fighting releasing this information and it came out that he owns all of these properties abroad and they were passed down to his wife. They're in Bangalore and in Dubai and they're making a few hundred thousand dollars off of being a landlord. And those are the kinds of things that I think people do glom onto when you've been railing against the 1% and saying, you know, this is about America first. Everything's about Michigan, Michigan. But you're a landlord abroad. Or that his wife, who is a psychiatrist, doesn't accept Medicare, but you're for Medicare for all. So the Stevens camp is definitely trying to make something of that.
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Paul, I think the issue here is a little bit larger. It feels to me like a couple things going on here. First of all, it's a little bit like the rest of the Democrats now have seen the dsa. It's like the third date, and they've seen the girl without her makeup on. And all of a sudden, I didn't realize I was getting into this, right. And now it's pulled them into someplace that they don't want to go. And the thing is, I don't think there's that much of a difference. I really don't. I know that they're trying to triangulate against the dsa, but go back to even Obama. Let's go to Obamacare, which grabbed one sixth of the American economy by any metric, has not worked. One of the things you hear about the affordability issue is the cost of health care we were promised under the sun, including keeping your doctor, quite famously. So I don't actually find them to be that radical, except when they say the real quiet part out loud. And that is, we want to abrogate the Constitution. We want to get rid of Article 1, the Senate, the President. That's Article 2, the Supreme Court, Article 3. You know what happens if you advocate to get rid of America's founding document and you marry it in any way, shape or form to coercion, sedition. That's what that is. And I think that some of the Democratic Party right now are getting a little afraid. They're thinking, we got these feral children here who have come out of the woodwork who want to get rid of the entire thing. And some of them are throwing bricks at ice. And all you need right there, that's conspiracy to commit sedition. And if you say, well, where you getting this? This is like some Civil War thing. No. You know, when they charged seditious conspiracy, the 6th of January, that's what they charged the proud boys with and the Oath Keepers with. And let me just close with this. You know, there's dots out there. You got to connect them, but they're there. If you look at where these guys all go to get their marching orders, headquarters is about to be blown open. I'm talking about Cuba, everyone. I mean, Bill de Blasio honeymooned in Cuba. That's been going on forever. All these characters you're hearing about at some point make the pilgrimage to Havana. They all go down there, Code Pink. Hasan, Piker, all of these guys that are thought leaders of a lot of this stuff. And Cuba is about to flip. And when it does, you're going to get the archives and you're going to get a bunch of narco government guys who want to make a deal and they're going to talk. And there's already an open investigation into those characters that I just named. And I think there are elements of the Democratic Party who are taking a look at this and saying, these guys radioactive. We better not get caught up in this because I'm not sitting in a cell next to Hasan Pike.
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I like that we should arrest the communists. I'm totally on board with that.
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They'll get there. You. I'm hoping that Radcliffe and Cash are watching this closely and are married up with the State Department because that's, you know, obviously, that's what's running this whole thing. So we'll see. Rubio's on it, all right.
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Or Miller. I mean, he really runs the place. Anyway, up next, Fauci, the fraud was busy social climbing while he told you to social distance.
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Cheers to America's 250th birthday. Get 20% off your first purchase at Fox News wineshop.com with code FN Radio 2020% discount excludes wine club offers and cannot be combined with any other promotion. Expires July 31, 2026. Must be 21 or older to order. Please drink responsibly. President Trump unloading on Anthony Fauci as newly released diary entry showed a pandemic era doc's obsession with his rise to fame as he pushed for the country to be shut down. Watch this. When he was with Biden, he was like the God. When he was with me, he wasn't even close and I wasn't very close to him. He wanted everything closed. And it just turned out that closing wasn't so good. Because, you know, it's very interesting, some of the states that fared the worst in terms of the spread were actually closed.
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They did a lot of damage in
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a lot of different ways. And While Americans were six feet apart, Dr. Fauci was rubbing shoulders with celebrities and media elites. One note shows the doc hosted CNN's Jake Tapper for dinner in October 2020, just days after telling Americans to skip Thanksgiving gatherings, writing quote, had dinner at my home with Jake and Jennifer Tapper. Relaxed, good time. Jake clearly believes that Trump is totally nuts. Fauci also acted like Hollywood's personal doctor, taking calls from stars like Barbra Streisand, with one entry reading had a great call with Barbra Streisand. She wanted to know if it was okay to get the MRNA vaccine. I told her yes. We then started discussing life in general. I told her that I work listening to her songs on Alexa. She really did not know what Alexa was. All right, I'm not going to come to you, Greg, because it looks like you may go out of the picture after hearing that. I want to go to Jesse on this. Jesse, you know, at a time when we're hearing that the International Criminal Court is all over Bibi. Right. Where are they on the fact that you have, what, 20 million deaths globally attributed to Chairman Xi, and if there's one American who can give us that story, he's about to get deposed under oath. What do you want to hear?
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Well, and if he lies, he can be prosecuted.
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That's right.
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And so we also know we have evidence that he destroyed. Evidence. So if he comes out and tells, Paul, I didn't do it, boom, felony.
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You got him.
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Americans are so jaded about politics because there's so much injustice and no one ever pays the price. I mean, this guy was wrong about everything. And it's all documented. It's like, when you make one mistake, you could be like, yeah, I screwed up. I'm sorry. But if you made hundreds of mistakes and lots of people died, what do you say? At the very minimum, he should lose his medical license. And he actually had a vaccine injury at one point, and then he lied and said the vaccine's fine. Meanwhile, he had a clot. So all these stars are on his jock because they want him to be their personal doc. You know how it is. They call him the jock sniffers, the star fluffers, the groupies. This is him. All right.
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Any more names?
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He wants to be their personal doctor because he feels guilty that he blew it on the lab leak and is seeking fame and glory to treat a guilty conscience. And we all know how much the stars love the lockdowns. We could all go to our lake homes, our beach houses, and no one would bother us. So we wanted it to go on as long as possible. The only person we saw was our assistant, but then we kicked him right out of the house after they delivered our goods. His reputation now is in tatters, and probably that's the most painful thing. But the media is still covering for this guy because it doesn't even matter that a million Americans died. He got Trump out of office, and in a way, he was the bioweapon. He was the one thing that could take out Donald Trump. But you know what? Trump came back. I'm a little worried he did. Long Covid. Jessica.
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Donald Trump is Long Covid.
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He's Long Covid for you, for others,
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we have antibodies so I'm glad you talked about reputation. Dana, let me come to you because I think I want to stay in this Chinese thing, because I really do feel like the PRC did a masterful job of changing that narrative. All of a sudden, we were talking about bat soup instead of the fact that there's three places on Earth where they have this kind of research, and one of them happens to be Wuhan, and one of them also happens to be maybe inadvertently funded by the star character. Tomorrow, can he in any way, shape or form revivify his reputation here?
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I think it's going to be very difficult because one, I wanted to ask you one thing. Could he plead the fifth tomorrow?
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That's a good question. He's not under indictment, so, yeah, I guess he could.
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I guess he could. Why? It would be terrible. And then. Then you just read into it what you want. I think the other thing is, is that there is true anger about all of this from the people who lost loved ones, the people whose children were harmed, or the businesses that had to close even though that business. And then when you read that, we were criticized for being skeptical of 6ft distance. Turns out that was just an arbitrary number they pulled out of a hat. We were criticized for saying this market thing didn't make sense. The lab seemed to make sense. We would be super criticized by the media for that. And then also we were critical of the shutdown, the lockdown, and continuing on, especially for schools. Again, criticized for that. He did something that you're never supposed to do. He would go home and he would read the comments, and he fell in love with the comments. And it's like, if my mom, a few years ago, she was like, dana, they're saying really mean things about you on the Internet. I'm like, mom, you can't read the comments. It's only great if you read the comments. You fall for it. So he was in his diary talking about President Trump being a narcissist and a liar. And now tomorrow you'll have this diary which is on display for everyone to read, and they can probably come to that conclusion.
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Yeah, I think it's going to be. Jessica, let me ask you this. I mean, look, obviously the media was very much on his side as he lost that seat. What's it going to go with the media here?
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Well, I think that there is going to be a push to look at the totality of Anthony Foushee's career, which spans over 50 years, and a lot of very good things that he did, especially when it comes to the AIDS epidemic and being the chief at architect of PEPFAR, which was, you know, one of W's crowning achievements, and is credited with saving 25 million lives. That's a really big deal. You know, treating Ebola patients himself, going back to the 1960s, and leading this NIH team that repurposed cancer therapies to save the lives of people with a fatal rheumatological condition. The guy has done real stuff. The diary is obviously incredibly embarrassing. There are people at the highest levels of government, certainly of this government, who love it when someone famous tells them something nice. And I don't think that, you know, we can hold that against him as, like, a bad doctor because he was into the fact that Barbra Streisand was asking him for advice. But the totality of the COVID epidemic is going to be on display for people. And like I said yesterday, it caused a huge fissure in this country, Absolutely massive. Where people fall on this, what they think went too far, what didn't go far enough, and it made us all a little bit crazy. I mean, I remember there was a time where I thought it was, like, really cool to identify as a Cuomo sexual because he was giving those great press conferences every morning, and the whole country was taking it, right? You'd. In California, they'd wake up early so that they could listen to Andrew Cuomo.
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I think that was a bubble. Most people thought it was idiotic. We didn't fall for it. Nobody here was a Cuomo sexual. Just you, Jessica. Don't try to lay it on us, Greg. Embarrassing moment in your life. Own up to it.
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I did. I just said it on national tv.
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But also, I gotta call you on the AIDS stuff. It may shine a light on Fauci's role at aids, but it ain't gonna be pretty. The AZT that he pushed on people, just a horrible drug. The fact that he said AIDS could be. Could be spread through air. I mean, he just read Kari Mullis, the Nobel prize winner's take on who invented pcr, which they use in tracking diseases and whatnot, and you hear about Fauci's role. I have to go back to the Barbra Streisand thing, and I'll tell you why. Because we glossed over the most important part.
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All right?
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He wrote about a phone call, and he could have just left it at that, but he thought to include intimate medical details on a government server. She had sores on her butt. And he includes that because you know what? It's going to Be great for the book. What happened to doctor patient confidentiality? This is a thing where fame and status had him sacrifice the average citizen. Or in this case, Barbra Streisand. But you know what? But I'm sure she didn't want that out there. Now it's out there. Now, we all know that she has sores on her butt from shingles. And you've heard of the Streisand effect. Do you know what that is? That's like by trying to hide information, you draw more attention to it. Streisand is now a victim of the Streisand effect, and it's literally gonna be a pain in her ass. Shingles is no laughing matter. That's why you gotta get this shot. I don't really care about the celebrity stuff. I care about the media stuff. Dana Bash, Wolf Blitzer sending these brown nosing texts like, ooh, I think this guy's a jerk, too. You did such a great job. And then, you know, Tapper having him over for dinner while we're all stuck at home because we're not as important as Fauci or Jake Tapper or Newsom going to the French Laundry. So this was almost like Biden's brain. You know, the media picked a side and they defended that side. And Fauci was just another Joe Biden. The rest of us, rubes locked in our rooms because we're too stupid. And people died, and they died alone. Developed addictions and mental illnesses. Businesses were lost, kids got dumber. All because this guy needed to protect his precious gain of function research. I'd blame it on bat soup, too, if I had this amount of blood on my hands.
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I can't imagine. I mean, look, he's got no immunity here offered to him. He's going to have to come clean. And in light of de facto, as I just heard about Barbra Streisand's ass, I can only imagine what we're going to hear.
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But think about it.
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These hearings in Congress, a doctor, like, if.
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Okay, if you told Siegel something and he puts it in his diary for his book.
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Siegel better not have a diary.
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Doctors have notes. But it's not like. That's not. He's not like your physician.
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Yeah, he's not supposed to do that.
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You're not. It's crazy. All right, we got to move. They're telling me to go. Coming up. Tough talking. Mamdani just learned he picked a fight with the wrong guy. Coming up.
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So much for Zoran's tough guy routine. President Trump hosting Israel Prime Minister Netanyahu at the White House today, while Kami Mamdani has gone from barking to hiding under the porch after threatening to have Bibi arrested and sent to the Hague.
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Prime Minister Netanyahu belongs in the Hague.
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Whatever the law allows me to do in New York City, that's what we will do.
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It is clear that we do not
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have the independent legal authority to enforce this warrant. He's fomed hate, but he's trying to turn one group against the other, and he's foisting hate and fear. I speak to Jewish Americans in New York, and they're afraid. Right now. I'm not interested in getting into a back and forth with Prime Minister Netanyahu
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here in New York City.
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One of my top priorities is keeping Jewish New Yorkers safe, keeping every single New Yorker safe.
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You know, Dana, I think that the thing that is missing here is the equal amount of time he would have spent on October 7th. That seems to be the missing thing here. Like, as long as you don't bring that up. He just sounds like, oh, just a guy that's looking out for everybody.
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So de Blasio was on Newsroom yesterday, and he led with, netanyahu's a war criminal. And I said, according to who? Well, I say. I'm like, well, who are you? Yeah, if you go to a kangaroo court and say, this guy's a war criminal, it doesn't mean he's a war criminal. It means you went to a kangaroo court. And then if you ask, well, do you think Hamas is a war criminal? They're like, well, but yes. And I truly believe that he wants to talk about foreign policy because he doesn't want to talk about things here in the city. They'll say, oh, the bus system's so much better. Is it? I just read that it was slowed down because the policy. I mean, but I don't know. Do you think this free grocery thing is going to work out? Charles Murray's post on this was great. He said, you guys, stop talk. Let him try. Let's see how bad it's going to be for him. I think what people want from their mayors is the basics.
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Yeah.
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And the basics will get you pretty far. You start talking about foreign policy when you realize that online, that's what your base cares about. It's not what your constituents care about.
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Yeah.
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All right. Jessica, is this just a way for Mom Dhammady to elevate himself that, oh, now he's in, like, a tiff with the Prime Minister of Israel? When before he was a failed rapper a year ago. It's pretty. I have to give him props for that.
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It definitely puts you in the national conversation and on that stage in a different way. But that had that happened since he got elected, since he was able to beat the establishment, you know, it was a big deal. And Donald Trump has hosted him at the White House, you know, taken the smiling pictures together in the Oval Office. So he's is a big deal, and he has this platform. One thing that I wish the conversation around Mamdani's relationship to Jews should be refocused on is his relationship with Mahmoud Khalil. Because I actually think that's much more salient for New Yorkers in the city to talk about how he campaigned with him, appeared on stage with him, has had him to Gracie Mansion. And I think Mahmoud Khalil was unfairly targeted by the State Department. But I also think that Mahmoud Khalil led a movement that infringed on Jewish kids civil rights, and that if kids, black kids, or trans kids had been blocked from entering their dorms or their libraries or their life had looked like it did on Columbia's campus, and they were part of any other group, there would have been national outrage about it. And I think that that. And from talking to a lot of my Jewish friends in the city, from reformed Jews to modern Orthodox Jews, that that relationship is much more resonant with them than anything about Bibi Netanyahu, because so many liberal Jews do have a problem with Bibi Netanyahu and think that he completely has mishandled the relationship with the Palestinians, whether you think he's a war criminal or not.
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Can I just point out one thing, since you like polls. His poll numbers. Netanyahu's poll numbers went up when Mamdani did this, so it backfired.
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I feel like.
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So, Jesse, I can't keep track of these foreign fights. Muslims versus Jews. Mahmoud Khalil, I don't even know who that is.
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Okay?
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I can only focus on certain beefs. We have whites against blacks in this country. United States versus Canada, men versus women. Don't do that here. Okay? Take that somewhere else if you want to be Secretary of State. Mandani. Okay? Rubio's got it covered. He could use the help, but not from you. Stay in your lane. We don't even have free buses. I'd ride a free bus. We don't even have a Soviet grocery store. Okay, Stick to the basics. We have a homeless encampment by Dana's house, and she lives In a nice area. Can we focus on that instead of the. The leader of Israel? Come on.
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Yeah, that's a good point. I didn't know where you were going, but you.
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Me neither.
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You landed the plane very clear, not into a building.
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All right, first of all, we do have free buses because nobody pays. All right? Anybody who gets on the bus these days? I get on. Usually I take the subway. They get on the back. The back door. There's two doors in New York. If anybody doesn't know they get on the back door, nobody pays. The driver doesn't even look up. Number two. Let me tell you what happened here. This was a stunt that got a little bit out of hand for him. He wanted to take it all the way. He knows he's got lawyers like crazy up there. They call it the law department in New York City. There's an army of lawyers. I used to have to deal with them all the time. Any one of them would have said, hey, listen, pal, you can't arrest this guy. There's a federal statute. Right on point. So what does Paul do? I wrote a piece for the Wall Street Journal the day it was coming out. He backed off. So, of course, we had to change it at the last minute. But here's the point. The piece said the following, and I bet you somebody told him this. Mr. Mayor, if you tell the NYPD to go arrest Bibi Netanyahu while he's here and anybody does an overt act, that's the standard. And it's pretty, you know, it's not a high bar towards doing that. You're going to get charged with attempted kidnapping. You're going to get a charge with conspiracy to kidnap right in the statute. You're trying to take this guy, number one, with no legal authority. Number two, you're talking about transporting them to the egg. That gives you federal authority right there. He probably went, ooh, geez, maybe this went a little bit too far. So then what does he do? And this is the tell. He comes out and says, but the Fed should still do it. You can't do it. Period. You can't do it. The Feds can't do it. Nobody can do it. Stop performing. It's nonsensical. Let me just close with this. This vaunted international criminal court, this paragon of virtue that's going to just control the whole world here and put us all on the right path. The chief prosecutor who indicted Netanyahu and Putin just got ousted for sexual misconduct. So I guess we're back to believing Women if you're in the Hague.
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All right. Do you have anything to add?
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He got me too.
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Oh, there you go. All right. Glad we heard that one, Dana. Okay, coming up, Democrats give gangs a glow up that'll make you want to throw up.
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We will fall back hard in the
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night
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as Seattle searches for answers after a suspected gang related shooting at a food festival over the weekend that left two dead and four wounded, including a toddler. The city's liberal leaders are finding a softer way to say the word gang.
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Watch.
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Here in Seattle, the problem of gun violence is worsened by small groups. We have small groups that appear to be at odds with each other. And in our city, I don't know if it's gang activity, but certainly group activity.
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Okay, Paul, what happened in the conference room when they were getting ready for the press conference where they decided this
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and that's so they looked at the mayor and they said, look, we got a real problem. This is going to be embarrassing. So what can we do? Well, we really can't solve the actual problem. We can't cure the disease. So maybe if we act like, you know, we're treating one of the symptoms and we give it a different name and this is part of the playbook, folks. You remember, I'm going to go back to something. When I was working Carlos Bledsoe and then after that, Major Nadal Hassan, the shooters down in Arkansas and then on the military base, dead American soldiers. The guy was a stone jihadi. He was a member of the American military. Out comes Obama and out comes his AG holder at the time and tells us, no, it's workplace violence. And as a result, it was never adequately investigated. And a Democrat, to his credit, Lieberman, called BS on it. The language does matter. And changing the language just doesn't mean that the whole problem goes away. You got to at some point treat the disease. Right now you can't put juveniles against all these rules that make it so hard to track juveniles who are going into gang life here in New York. They want, in fact, the NYPD gang whole database to go away. If you don't get a kid young, feel the pressure of the system to try to scare them straight, especially if the kid doesn't have good adult supervision, then, you know, you miss that opportunity. And changing the words, changing the name is not going to help.
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You talk about this a lot. Like when they try to change the language, you have to resist it.
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I have no idea what you're talking about. No, yeah, I do. I think gang means non white in my Reasonable conclusion. And as we know, for liberals, acknowledging that non whites can commit crime. Racist. For the left, the truth is racist. End result. You can't improve neighborhoods if you can't identify the problem. What is the problem? 01% of the population contributed to 52% of the shootings. That's not an outlier. They looked at 20 different cities. It's always a tiny, tiny, tiny fraction. 0.5, 0.6 chronic high rate offenders. What do they do? They blame guns. 99.9% of the gun owners do not do this. Why? And to what Paul was saying, See how I didn't say that other phrase. The system won't convert the knowledge of who these people are into jail terms. And why is that? They will mention community dynamics. Another word, another, another phrase. But it's basically a word for revolving door bail reform, limiting pretrial detention, lighter sentencing. These are all designed to do one thing and one thing only. And this is where the problem is. They decided that incarceration was bad. And we all agreed. We all go, yeah, you're right, we need to reform that. No, incarceration is actually good. It's actually compassionate. A lot of people lose their addictions in prison. A lot of people get better in prison. But we were trained to say if we just can reduce that. So all of these elements combined together created an atmosphere, a community dynamic where the community is plagued by refeed offenders every day and you can't even say who they are.
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A minute left. And Jessica, the language is not going to help bring back anything like the facts are what the facts are.
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Totally. You know me, when I see that a toddler was harmed, I am like, you go full tilt against those kids. The language doesn't offend me. I was also not someone that was ever offended by saying illegals versus undocumented. It's just not the time for it.
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Jesse.
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Yeah, Greg gets it. Gangs are really small groups. Black criminals are teens and Muslim terrorists who drive their cars into large groups of people. It's the car that's guilty. This protects liberals from feeling guilty about telling the truth.
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I don't remember anybody calling the mafia, you know, well fed men with cigars, you know what I mean? Nobody tried to obfuscate that. You know, they called it what it was, you know, so I mean, you can't treat it unless you call it what it is.
D
Indeed. All right, coming up, the only people who love surprise parties are the ones planning them.
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September calling It all is 10.
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Surprise. New research shows people don't like surprises because they eliminate anticipation, make you perform on the spot and can mess with your routine. Paul, I presume you really don't like them.
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No, I don't want any surprises. No birthday surprise for me. Making it to the next birthday is a surprise and you jump out and yell surprises.
C
You're gonna shoot em a birthday party.
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Don't give me an excuse. It'll be a cardiac event is what it'll be. Now, no surprises, please. Relatives. All right. You know, not that I have that many.
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Have any of you thrown a surprise party?
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I did.
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I threw a surprise party. It was extremely stressful and I will never do it again.
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For Peter.
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Yes.
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Yeah.
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Did he love it?
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I. Yes, he loved it. But we had people come from all different things, all different continents. I worked at the White House. It was. It was very stressful. He loved it. I'm glad I did it once, but I will never do it again.
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Jesse.
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I think I threw a surprise party for someone, but I don't remember who it was for. But no one's ever thrown me a surprise party. I've never been surprised.
D
Really? Fish. You're fishing today.
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Is it today?
D
No. No party, no cake, Greg.
C
Well, okay, here's the thing. How many moods do you go through in a day? And what are the chances that a surprise will land on the right mood? You're almost always preoccupied with something else. I remember when I turned 50, my staff had done up my office. They put up all these decorations, balloons and stuff. I walk in, I had other things on my mind. You know, I was laying them off that day, and it made it so awkward.
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The biggest surprise I've had in a long time is this stuff about Barbra Streisand's Cooley.
E
Enough with the butts. One more thing is up next.
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I can buy myself flowers, write my
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name in the sand.
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Time now for one more thing, Greg.
C
Tonight we got Cat, timp, Adam Hunter, Dr. Drew and Tyrus. And then after the show, me and Dr. Drew are going to go see the Melvins and Tomahawk in Brooklyn.
D
It sounds amazing. Could I come?
C
Yeah, sure.
D
Yeah. Right.
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Okay.
D
I'm going to do this. The squirrel stole the show during the Tigers Orioles game, sending more than a dozen crew members on a wild chase. The Orioles third base coach even shared his sunflower seeds with the little guy. It took forever to get him done. When the Empire asked the crowd to cheer for the grounds crew, they finally caught him. The fans booed because they wanted the squirrel to win.
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Podcast: The Five
Host: FOX News Podcasts
Date: July 28, 2026
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A fiery discussion and debate of the day’s hottest news stories and political controversies, focusing especially on the rise of Democratic Socialists, the legacy of Dr. Fauci, international tensions involving Israel, and America’s changing language around crime and justice.
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If you want to understand why “socialist” has become a toxic label inside the Democratic Party, why Dr. Fauci’s legacy is now under siege even from former fans, or why language games in politics are so contentious—from gang violence to international law—this episode offers pointed arguments and withering satire from all sides. The show’s trademark banter provides levity, while the underlying current is one of cultural and political volatility as 2026’s major issues play out.