“Completely Obliterating”

Summary

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The Five – “Completely Obliterating”

FOX News Podcasts | March 30, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, the panel dives into the latest developments on the Iran conflict, ongoing domestic political controversies, and cultural flashpoints. The hosts—Greg Gutfeld, Dana Perino, Jesse Waters, Charlie Hurt, and Jessica Tarloff—debate US military strategy, the political risks facing President Trump, intense protest movements like “No Kings,” and the shifting dynamics of identity politics in the Democratic Party. The show captures their characteristic banter, pointed disagreements, and a blend of humor and sharp political analysis.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Iran Conflict and Trump’s War Policy

• US Objectives and Military Operations

  • The US faces a critical week for possible deals with Iran; President Trump is warned he's ready to "blow them to smithereens" if Iran doesn't comply (Jessica, 00:56).
  • Discussion of "regime change" as already achieved—they argue Iran's former regimes have been “destroyed, they're all dead” (Greg, 01:24).
  • Pentagon's Operation Epic Fury is underway; objectives include destroying the Iranian navy, missiles, proxies, and preventing Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons (Dana, 02:15).
  • “We have moved away from what Caroline Levitt was even saying from the podium today because she was talking about nuclear programs. That’s not on the list anymore... What happened to eradicating their support for proxy forces?” (Dana, 06:08).

• Political Ramifications for Trump

  • Democrats label the war a “blunder” and a political liability (Jessica, 02:47).
  • Charlie pushes back: “He doesn’t do things like this for political reasons... Politicians never do anything in an election year for political reasons because they don’t want to have to pay the price for it in the election” (Charlie, 03:33).
  • Dana observes that whatever political goodwill Trump had is being spent, describing him as a disruptor rather than a traditional politician (Dana, 05:13).
  • Greg riffs on war options, referencing wild scenarios involving Marines storming uranium caches and "digging through the tunnels" (Greg, 08:07).

• Tactical & Strategic Discussion

  • The prospects of seizing strategic sites like Kharg Island or the Strait are debated for their danger and strategic value (Greg, 09:17).
  • Greg warns of challenging weeks ahead: “The next two weeks, we’ll probably see the most dangerous and decisive action of the war so far. And I can just pray it goes well” (Greg, 10:13).
  • Jesse introduces the numbers of Iranian targets destroyed: “We have taken out 13,000 and we have 3,000 more to go” (Jesse, 11:20).

• Political Capital & Decision-Making

  • Jessica, Charlie, and Dana agree Trump is willing to “spend political capital” for perceived national interests, not just self-preservation (Jessica, 12:25; Charlie, 12:28).
  • Dana: “He is a new kind of politician. A politician who doesn’t care about winning that much, I guess…” (Dana, 05:23).

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2. Domestic Unrest: “No Kings” Protests

• Nature and Impact of Protests

  • Jesse and Greg recount chaotic scenes at "No Kings" rallies in L.A. and Portland, with violence, anti-ICE graffiti, and American flags burned while communist symbols are flown (Jesse, 14:00).
  • “This is group therapy designed as public theater... It doesn’t accomplish anything because like the very worst, self-help, it’s self-indulgent” (Greg, 15:40).
  • The protests are characterized as spectacles in deep-blue cities, with little chance of swaying swing voters, emphasizing their performative aspect (Jesse, 17:25).

• Funding and Organization

  • Greg alludes to billionaire and "Soros-led campaign," mocking the left’s organization and motivations (Greg, 16:20).

• Political Energy and Engagement

  • Dana notes the protests’ scale: “The no Kings movement, the last time... had about 6 million people. Now it’s 8 million people. 3,300 rallies across all 50 states, and actually two thirds of them were in suburbs and small towns” (Dana, 19:38).
  • But she questions: “People kicking in fences and things like that... Is this really worth the $3 billion you spent?” (Dana, 21:11).

• Potential Electoral Impact

  • There’s debate over whether this energy spells trouble or success for Democrats come midterms, with Charlie arguing that focusing on radical left messages could inadvertently help Republicans despite a “horrifying landscape” for the GOP (Charlie, 21:46).

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3. Government Shutdown, TSA Pay, and Reparations Debate

• TSA Pay Controversy

  • The panel discusses the record government shutdown, noting TSA agents finally got paid after over 40 days due to Trump’s action—but Democrats remain critical (Greg, 23:43).
  • Dana states: “Donald Trump admitting that he could have paid TSA agents all along is an enormous own goal... It’s completely on the Republicans at this point and everybody knows it” (Dana, 25:11).
  • Charlie floats the populist idea that if Congress and the government don’t work, taxpayers deserve a "tax holiday": “Give me a 45 day tax holiday... That’s a 10 plus percent federal tax rebate at the end of the year” (Charlie, 27:05).

• Reparations and Political Weaponization

  • The idea of reparations for illegal immigrants traumatized by ICE is dismissed by the conservatives, with criticism for prioritizing non-citizens over Americans (Greg, 24:28).
  • “If a young woman was murdered by an illegal alien, you would think a politician who was also a woman would speak out on her behalf, right? AOC not said a word… For progressives, politics makes suffering transactional” (Greg, 28:18).

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4. Identity Politics and Democratic Strategy for 2028

• Democrats Rethink Candidate Profiles

  • Citing Axios, they discuss rumors that Democrats may pivot to “a straight white Christian man” for 2028 after losses with Kamala and Hillary (Charlie, 31:27).
  • Greg and Charlie ridicule the continued fixation on identity over ideas, suggesting, with tongue-in-cheek, that “you guys should just run a gay Jew” (Greg, 34:39).
  • Greg also analyzes Obama’s success as a unique phenomenon, and argues that Democratic strategists are now focused on “surface appeal” to repackage progressive policies (Greg, 35:26; 37:00).

• Voter Readiness and Sexism Narratives

  • The recent Michelle Obama comment (“we ain’t ready”) regarding a woman president is discussed as both a candid admission and a political dodge (Greg, 31:52).
  • Dana disputes the idea that America is too misogynistic, suggesting it says more about specific candidates than voters’ readiness for a woman leader (Dana, 32:42).

• Party Division and the Dangers of Identity Politics

  • The hosts agree that identity politics has splintered the Democrats and masked the need for centrist policies (Greg, 37:00).
  • “It’s not until you let go of the identity stuff... The party will then realize that they have to deal with actual policies” (Greg, 38:11).

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5. AI in Academia: ‘Moreover’ as a Dead Giveaway

• Dana discusses a viral anecdote about professors identifying AI-generated student essays by words like “moreover”: “A professor revealing one specific word as a dead giveaway—‘moreover’—I’ve never heard a 20 year old use ‘moreover’ in their life” (Dana, 39:42).
• Jessica admits to using AI for book proposals, comparing its addictive help to "using steroids at the gym" (Jessica, 40:22).
• Charlie notes professors use AI, too—“I guarantee you that that professor who’s complaining about it put in a program and used AI to find all the papers that say, ‘moreover’” (Charlie, 41:22).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Regime Change in Iran:
  “Regime change... we’re doing extremely well in that negotiation. But you never know with Iran, because we negotiate with them and then we always have to blow them up.”
  — Greg Gutfeld (01:24–01:59)

• On Political Motives:
  “Politicians never do anything in an election year for political reasons because they don’t want to have to pay the price for it in the election.”
  — Charlie Hurt (03:33)

• On Protest Culture:
  “This is group therapy designed as public theater... it’s self-indulgent. You don’t come out as an outsider and think, ‘Wow, that made my day better.’”
  — Greg Gutfeld (15:40)

• On Trump’s Leadership:
  “He’s the only politician we’ve ever had who is always willing to spend political capital on something other than just getting himself reelected.”
  — Charlie Hurt (12:28)

• On Identity Politics:
  “If it ends up being an Andy Beshear because that [is] who won the contest of ideas on the primary stage, I see nothing wrong with that.”
  — Dana Perino (33:18)

• On Populist Solutions during Shutdowns:
  “Anytime the government shuts down, we should begin a tax holiday because taxpayers have already paid for all this crap”
  — Charlie Hurt (27:05)

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Iran War Policy & Political Fallout – 00:56 to 12:45
• Domestic Protests (“No Kings” Rally) – 14:00 to 22:49
• Government Shutdown & TSA Pay – 23:43 to 28:18
• Identity Politics & 2028 Democratic Strategy – 31:27 to 38:11
• AI in Academia – 39:42 to 41:49

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Episode Tone & Style

The conversation is spirited and sarcastic, laced with pointed quips and running jokes. While overtly conservative in orientation, Dana and Jessica provide nuanced (sometimes critical) perspectives. The exchanges are brisk, opinionated, and heavy on cross-talk, with an emphasis on poking fun at both political opponents and each other.

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This summary captures the lively debate, core themes, and memorable exchanges in this episode—serving anyone who wants to be fully briefed on "The Five" without listening.

Transcript

[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Jessica Tarloff]

Hi, I'm Greg Gutfeld along with Charlie Hurt, Jessica Tarloff, Jesse Waters, and this weekend she marked marched against glue traps that make her late for work. Dana Perino, the Five. One week for Iran to make a deal or their fate is sealed. President Trump warning the regime leaders he hasn't smoked, that he is ready to blow them to smithereens if they don't wise up.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But we've had regime change, if you look already, because the one regime was decimated, destroyed, they're all dead. The next regime is mostly dead.

[Charlie Hurt]

And the third regime, we're dealing with

[Greg Gutfeld]

different people than anybody's dealt with before.

[Charlie Hurt]

It's a whole different group of people.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So I would consider that regime change. We're doing extremely well in that negotiation.

[Charlie Hurt]

But you never know with Iran because

[Greg Gutfeld]

we negotiate with them and then we always have to blow them up. And we will probably, I think we'll make a deal with them.

[Charlie Hurt]

Pretty sure whether it's possible we won't.

[Jessica Tarloff]

The White House says President Trump is leaving all options on the table as 3,500 troops arrive in the Middle East. Officials say this will help them unleash a major offensive if talks fail. Here's Caroline Levitt.

[Dana Perino]

The Pentagon has always stated 4 to 6 weeks Estimated timeline for Operation Epic Fury. We're on day 30 today. So again, you do the math on how much longer the Pentagon needs to fully achieve the objectives of Operation Epic Fury, which I will reiterate. The destroy the Iranian navy, destroy their ballistic missiles, dismantle their missile and drone

[Jesse Waters]

production infrastructure, significantly weaken their their proxies throughout the course of this operation.

[Dana Perino]

And then, of course, preventing Iran from ever obtaining A nuclear weapon.

[Jessica Tarloff]

But despite US Forces laying waste to target after target, Democrats are still painting the war as an abject failure. I don't support this administration, period. They've gotten us into what will be

[Charlie Hurt]

looked at as one of the greatest

[Jessica Tarloff]

blunders, presidential blunders of our time.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Donald Trump said we won this war. And so the question for President Trump is completely delusional, is if we won the war, why are they preparing to send thousands of more American troops into harm's way?

[Jessica Tarloff]

So, Charlie, it seems like the issue here is you have one side, the Democrats, who are looking at this through a political lens and assume, or basically tell everybody else, that Trump is also looking through this through a political lens, which means they don't know anything about Trump.

[Charlie Hurt]

Yeah. They've not Learned anything in 10 years. And I love what Spartacus said right there. He actually admitted the whole problem for them. He said, I don't support anything that this administration does. Period. So therefore, no matter what they did, he would have been against it. The two biggest brain dead hot takes that come out of all this, the first one is that somehow, like, Israel conned Trump into going into war. It's the stupidest thing. Like, as if the world's largest economy doesn't have, like, financial interest in the Strait of Hormuz. Like, there aren't actual American interests at play here. But the single biggest idiotic hot take is the idea that Trump did this for political reasons. He doesn't do things like this for political reasons. First of all, politicians never do anything in an election year for political reasons because they don't want to have to pay the price for it in the election. And I think that, to me, what it reveals about these people who are saying that he's going to pay a political price, and this is, you know, that he's doing this for, is that those people, those politicians never do anything except things for political reasons. They never do something that they believe is the right thing because it's. Because they believe it's the right thing to do.

[Jessica Tarloff]

That is a great point, Jessica, that he is obviously paying the price in the election, if you look at the polls that I know you're gonna cite. So that doesn't actually jive well with the fact that you guys always say, he's doing it for political reasons. No, he's actually spending kind of the goodwill he's had in the bank to make this happen.

[Dana Perino]

Well, he didn't have a ton of goodwill in the bank, actually. And yes, he's depleting whatever was left in the reservoir because he's not a politician.

[Jessica Tarloff]

I'm glad you agree with Charlie.

[Dana Perino]

He is a new kind of politician. A politician who doesn't care about winning that much, I guess, or who is having more trouble with the facts on the ground than some politicians who came before him. I wasn't going to set any polling though, but I'm glad we got that out there. Anyway, a few things that came out of the weekend that I think are important to touch on. Trump was bragging about the 20 tankers that got by the Strait of Hormuz, as if that was a big win for the Americans. And none of them were American tankers, they were Pakistani tankers. And that came as a direct result of negotiations between Pakistan and the Iranians. The Iranians like it because they're making more money than they ever have before. And it's an affirmation of the fact that we are then closed out of that conversation. The Wall Street Journal is reporting that the Iranians launched two times more missiles on a daily basis than a week ago. Now, that's concerning about their ability to rearm and to rebuild. And Marco Rubio put out a statement talking about the clear objectives. And I think he even said, you should write this down. So I did. One, destruction of Iran's air force. Two, destruction of their Navy. Three, severely diminishing their missile launching capabilities for destruction of their factories. We have moved away from what Caroline Levitt was even saying from the podium today because she was talking about nuclear programs. That's not on the list anymore. Getting rid of the nuclear material. What happened to eradicating their support for proxy forces? The regime change. What Trump said is ridiculous. Like there's a new guy there. So it's a regime change. The regime change was supposed to be a free Iran, right? That these people would be able to actually come out of their houses and, and have a peaceful existence. And we don't even talk about those things anymore. So we, well, we. Well, Dana tried and Donald Trump wasn't very interested in that. So I'm saying that looking at the facts on the ground and not just going with this narrative that because the President wants it to be so, that it's the reality is objectively the correct thing to do. I'm not saying that through a partisan lens. I'm not saying. I just object to everything that he's going to do. Look at our European allies. Look, look at the things that I just talked about, the way that the economy is performing. And I think it speaks for itself.

[Jessica Tarloff]

So Jesse Everything Jessica said is independent of her feelings about Trump, just like

[Greg Gutfeld]

all the Democrats and at all.

[Jessica Tarloff]

There's nothing partisan there. I'm glad that we got that out of the way.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm glad she said the Iranian economy is doing better than ever. You think the Iranian economy's doing well?

[Dana Perino]

They're getting.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Bomb the smithereens.

[Dana Perino]

Jessica, you don't think they're making more money from.

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, they're not making that much money, Jessica. No, they're not listening. Donald Trump is like the American eagle. On the one hand, he's got the olive branch. On the other hand, he's got a bundle of arrows. I don't know what's going to happen. I could wake up Friday and there could either be a peace treaty or we could have Marines going in. And I don't think the gay ayatollah knows either. And that's how we like it. You got to keep him on his toes. He's weighing options right now. Both options are very high risk and very high reward. And they might extend that timeline four to six weeks. Timeline, four weeks, Jessica, is four times seven is around 28. This would be about a month. Just trying to do the math for you. One of those options, seizing the uranium. So you'd go in under fire, send in the Marines, special task force. You'd have to probably use the discombobulator, which we used against Maduro's crew. Makes everybody throw up and then they all pass out. So then you'd have to bring in excavators and engineers. You'd have to kind of dig through the tunnels and you'd seize the uranium, put them in caskets, throw them in trucks, drive them to an airstrip and fly them out of town. This has never been done before in combat. It's only been done in Ukraine and Georgia. Very, very dangerous. The other thing we've all talked about, seizing Kharg and seizing the strait, which

[Dana Perino]

you said was supposed to happen. He did the same method. I'm going to mess with the markets before the open, which the Iranians predicted. Then you said by Friday.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Pretty soon. I bet you it's going to happen pretty soon. One way or the other, it's going to happen. So they're going to have to go in and then they're going to have to hold that territory. You're right. They'll have to hold Kharg or hold the coastline. And that's just the way it's going to be if you need to achieve the mission. You are right, though. I mean, the Iranians do have thousands of drones still. They still have 100 missiles, and those can sometimes get through air defenses, although the air defenses have been 90% effective. Zelensky is going to backfill some of those defensive systems. That's great. But here's the deal. Once you take Karg, it takes their queen off the chessboard, and then you can really negotiate from a much stronger position. The next two weeks, we'll probably see the most dangerous and decisive action of the war so far. And I can just pray it goes well. I think I can speak for myself that I pray it goes well.

[Jesse Waters]

Beautiful.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Dana. I haven't seen you since Thursday, and might I say you're even more attractive today than you were on Thursday.

[Jesse Waters]

Thank you. So President Trump is in a situation that most commanders in chief find themselves in at some point, and that is having to make decisions that are like a tough decision and a tougher decision, and all the options are difficult. But he, to me, has been making some decisions that would be, like, questionable politically, like, for example, letting the Russian oil cargo get to Cuba. But, like, that is a decision that, in an ideal world, would he have wanted to do that? Probably not. But in order to keep the market fluid and to avoid a humanitarian disaster in Cuba at the moment. So he's saying, okay, we can do that. He also did something this week that we have been talking about for a while, and I don't. Not a lot of people picked up on it, but remember, we kept talking about the denominator. So people say, oh, well, we bombed this many and we bombed this many. But, like, of how many? So last night he told the Financial Times, we have taken out 13,000 and we have 3,000 more to go.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Nice.

[Jesse Waters]

So I was like, okay, so that shows you a military success. But, yes, more needs to be done. But I really think that the Iranians are feeling it because they are one encouraging terrorist threats in our country. So over the weekend, France disrupted a terror attack directly linked back to the Iranian issue.

[Dana Perino]

And.

[Jesse Waters]

And then what Iran said today is that they are threatening US Students who are studying in the Middle East. So that's just in. I don't know what political price he could possibly pay. He's not running for president again. If it's the midterms, I don't know if he cares that much. He unders. He's going to do what he can, but he. He understands history and knows that it's probably likely that the Republicans won't be able to hold it even if they try. So the political Price to me is not. It's not weighing in on some of these very tough decisions.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Remember that advice I gave you about work should always work to get fired? That's what he does. It's like, if you just play it safe, nothing good happens. You gotta.

[Jesse Waters]

You gotta hope that what you do

[Jessica Tarloff]

every night I hope to get. Yes. That's what I have done.

[Charlie Hurt]

And he's the only politician we've ever had who is always willing to spend political capital on something other than just getting himself reelected.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Yeah. It's the complete opposite of how he's painted as this narcissist who's worried about his poll numbers, when in fact all he's trying to do is build capital so he can spend it.

[Dana Perino]

Not worried about his poll numbers. He says everything is like, good poll numbers.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Yes.

[Charlie Hurt]

Yeah.

[Jessica Tarloff]

But when they're down, when they're low, he's like, whatever doesn't bother him. Coming up. No Kings. Damn. Sing and shout as chaos breaks out.

[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Jessica Tarloff]

99% of people over the age of

[Greg Gutfeld]

50 already have the virus that causes shingles, and it could reactivate at any time.

[Charlie Hurt]

I developed it and the blistering rash lasted for weeks.

[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Jesse Waters]

Protesters turning violent this weekend at yet another no Kings rally in L. A. Agitators hurling bricks and threatening officers. One person even spray painted kill your local ICE agent on the side of a federal building in Portland. Activists breaking through ICE facility and reportedly burning American flags. But the communist hammer and sickle flag was flying very proudly. Celebrities and hippies out in full force warning about the future of the country. And of course, there was singing.

[Charlie Hurt]

King Trump's private army from the dhs. Guns belted to their Colts.

[Jesse Waters]

I think that the rest of the world looks at us and is so horrified. This is what incompetency and unchecked power looks like. It is reckless. It is dangerous.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Trump has to be stopped. And that's what no Kings is all about, because he can't do all the up things that he's been doing.

[Jesse Waters]

But one Democrat lawmaker seemed to undercut the message. Hawaii Senator Mazie Hirono posting that Donald Trump is not, never will be and has never been a king. No Kings. I was like, wait, did she realize what she just did there, Greg? You know Your least favorite question every

[Greg Gutfeld]

Monday, what is in data?

[Jesse Waters]

When somebody says, what'd you do this weekend? Yeah, can you imagine? Like, if you were asking anybody around here what'd you do this weekend? They're like, oh, yeah, I went to the no Kings protest, by the way. That's what you did on your weekend, by the way.

[Jessica Tarloff]

I went around and asked people who are not, like, work at Fox Friends of mine, whatever. Hard to believe I have them. Nobody even knew that this was going on. The only reason why we know this is because we get tons and tons of clips on X that are absolutely hilarious. The Mad Max lady, we're covering her tonight on my show. But I mean, this is what this really is. This is group therapy designed as public theater. And what does it accomplish? It doesn't accomplish anything because like the very worst, self help, it's self indulgent. If you were to observe it, you don't come out of it as an outsider and think, wow, that made my day better. I'm persuaded. I look at this is the actual opposite of persuasive. You see this and you go, I don't want to be part of that. The Free Britney movement was more inspirational than this. But it's like they don't. It's not about being inspirational. It is about being seen. And that has always been a thing that you hear. I just, I want to be seen. And so more and more of this movement is about your identity, what you decide to be. And it's an expression of self, a tantrum about me. And it was well funded and it's well organized. Of course, Soros led the whole campaign. It's billions and billions of dollars. So this is nowhere. This is the opposite of Iranian men and women protesting for actual freedom. These are people generally elderly, sad people who need something in their lives that grandkids don't. They don't have. You got people like De Niro Infonda, who's last gap gasp for relevance is here. It's all like, all the messages are all consistent. It's a gasp with no specifics underneath it. And I enjoyed every minute of it.

[Jesse Waters]

Jesse. That took place in deep blue cities where no Republican has a chance of winning anyway. And it's really showing the extreme elements of the Democratic Party. Also, the point that Greg brought up, that there's this one billionaire in China and he funds a lot of it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah, I just want to hear Greg do Bruce. Can we do that again?

[Charlie Hurt]

Billionaires,

[Greg Gutfeld]

China, data. You've never been hotter. It's like Bruce Trump So, yeah, but no kings. Biden was in power for 50 years. They stole his votes, gave him the Kamala, then crowned her queen. Come on. They built a censorship machine. You couldn't even tell a joke about how stupid Foushee was. And then they shut down all the schools. Some lady tried to give somebody a trim at a salon. They threw her in prison. They tried to throw Trump in prison. They charged him like 100,000 times. This is the craziest thing I've ever heard. They are like the real blue bloods. That's what's going on here. Democrats believe they are born with the natural right to rule. And anytime they lose an election, they have a panic attack. It's always a crisis when they're not in power. Every time Trump beats them, democracy's under assault. Come on. Hillary accused him of stealing the election in 16, called him an illegitimate president. And then they just took out all their street teams. Blm, Antifa, the ice mommies. Always trying to sink them with the deep state, leak his tax returns. They tried to kill Kavanaugh, remember? After they couldn't kill his reputation, they tried to kill Kavanaugh. So now they're promising when they get back in power, they're not going to be kings at all. No, they're just going to pack the court. They're just going to make D.C. and Puerto Rico a state. Mass amnesty, mass arrests of vice agents. Other than that, I thought the rally was great.

[Jesse Waters]

And Jessica, there's obviously a lot of energy. Is it good energy or bad energy for the Democrats in the long run?

[Dana Perino]

So far, it looks like good energy. It looks like the kind of energy that shows up to vote, which is my favorite kind of energy.

[Jesse Waters]

These are probably high propensity voters anyway, right?

[Dana Perino]

Sure, but we know that.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah.

[Dana Perino]

No. Well, the grandmas in Pikachu costumes are definitely not getting paid. We know that when you're more engaged in the political process for a longer amount of time than you definitively show up to vote. People kicking in fences and things like that. I don't know about it if they're going to be there in November, but the reality is that the no Kings movement, the last time that there was a Protest, had about 6 million people. Now it's 8 million people. 3,300 rallies across all 50 states, and actually two thirds of them were in suburbs and small towns. One of every 50 people who live in America participated in one of these. It's clearly a thing that matters to people. And you see that being recognized not by Jesse or Greg but by Republicans in Congress. So we have a record high number of electeds on the Republican side retiring early. 36 of them have already announced. Trump's approval is about 40%, if you want to be super generous. And historically, when it's less, you already told Rasmussen or the guy in the bow tie. And when the president's approval is below 50%, on average, the party loses 34 seats. And the minimum loss of nine seats. We only need three to go to any of this. I actually, I went in October. I couldn't go on Saturday. I went in October to see what I was like.

[Jesse Waters]

Do like reporting.

[Dana Perino]

No, I mean, I took pictures with Paul Morrow. It was fun to be out there. I. I like seeing it. I like also seeing what people.

[Jessica Tarloff]

I think. I think the point you made is a good one. Democrats are already more involved in this political theatrics. It's what you guys do. You guys do this Trump vote. But at some point. But what you just said is that you guys do it more. You're more politically engaged, and that's a fact. But at some point, you have to ask yourself, within that world of political engagement, is this good? And when you have men in leather in wheelchairs dragging bodies along, and you have other dudes screaming at women that they're women, more women than they are, when you have. You have to ask yourself, is this really worth the $3 billion you spent?

[Charlie Hurt]

Yeah. And the real question is, obviously, as Dana, you pointed out, you know, midterms are always terrible for the party that's in power. This is a really, really horrifying landscape for Republicans. And so the real question is, like, who is actually not in charge of politics generally, but who's in charge of the Democrat Party? And if these are the people who are in charge of the Democrat Party, if this is where the energy of the Democrat Party is, my goodness, I can't think of a better undeserved win for Republicans than this. And when you listen to what these people are talking about, they're talking about open borders, they're talking about abolishing ice. They're talking about women playing in girls sports. They're talking about trans women, trans women. They're talking about stolen land, all kinds of crazy stuff. And if that's who's in charge of the Democrat Party come November, Republicans who face a horrifying landscape for themselves might actually wind up doing a whole lot better.

[Jesse Waters]

There's only 17 competitive seats anyway. Yes, I came up with a number. All right, coming up, Democrats pushed reparations for illegal immigrants. We'll be right back.

[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

Democrats proving once again they fight for illegal immigrants over hardworking Americans. The party's DHS temper tantrums now the longest shutdown in history. TSA lines are finally getting back to normal after TSA agents got their first paycheck in more than 40 days today thanks to President Trump. But Democrats are mad those agents are getting paid.

[Dana Perino]

You believe that he is violating the law in this interpretation that the White House says they have?

[Jessica Tarloff]

Well, it's not that I believe it, it's that I know it.

[Dana Perino]

In fact, they should be power.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But any American that went through fourth grade civics, no, they should be paid. They should have never been held hostage.

[Charlie Hurt]

He could have told Johnson make the deal, but he did not.

[Greg Gutfeld]

But he is the one who actually

[Jesse Waters]

did take action, not the Congress.

[Greg Gutfeld]

They should get paid. But also it's kind of written into the Constitution that you can't use the pay of representatives as a leverage point on how to get policy. But instead of fighting to pay those Americans, Democrats are fighting for illegal immigrants. One far left lawmaker wants reparations for those traumatized by ICE agents. The people that have been inflicting this harm need to be prosecuted. They need to be brought before us and they need to be held account for the trauma that they have created and who are going to have to have some form of reparation for the kids and the families that have been traumatized through all of this. Okay, Jessica, what, what do you want to complain about?

[Dana Perino]

All of it? Donald Trump admitting that he could have paid TSA agents all along is an enormous own goal. There was a Senate passed bill to fund the TSA that did not include any of the ICE reforms that Democrats were after. It passed 100 to 0 over voice vote and then Trump and Mike Johnson decided to blow the thing up so that they could continue this. Even people like Mike Lee, who's out there, you know, going on about the SAVE act all the time and directing you to page 12, line 22 or whatever for some esoteric loophole that he thinks saves the bill, voted to pay the TSA agents. It's completely on the Republicans at this point and everybody knows it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Charlie, you don't look like you know it, so.

[Charlie Hurt]

No, I just was surprised that you were celebrating the fact that Trump is paying the bills. Doesn't that kind of make him a king though? Because Congress is supposed to hold the purse strings and it's supposed to.

[Dana Perino]

He won't allow Congress to do anything

[Charlie Hurt]

and so he's not in Congress. What are you talking about?

[Dana Perino]

Every time.

[Charlie Hurt]

Look, here's the thing. I love this idea of docking the pay of lawmakers if they. And it has nothing to do with leveraging their salary for a certain policy prescription. It has to do with doing your effing job. And if you're not doing your job, then you don't get paid. You wouldn't get paid if you didn't do your job. And so I think, I think it's a great thing to dock all the pay for every single member of Congress. But more importantly, this is what I really like. I think that taxpayers should. We. Anytime the government shuts down, we should begin a tax holiday because taxpayers have already paid for all this crap and so they should. We should go. What? It's been 45 days now. Give me a 45 day tax holiday. That's a 10 plus percent federal tax rebate at the end of the year.

[Jessica Tarloff]

You are brilliant.

[Charlie Hurt]

We should not have to pay for this.

[Jessica Tarloff]

I'm stealing that idea for tonight.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Is this one of those things where the President watches Fox?

[Jesse Waters]

I hope, I hope so.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I hope so.

[Jessica Tarloff]

This is the greatest idea I've ever heard, Jessica. Even you must be for it.

[Dana Perino]

My taxes are way too high.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Okay, there we go.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Who would like to jump in?

[Jesse Waters]

I would just say that I think the Democrats are playing a very dangerous game. But Jessica thinks that everyone believes that this is the Republicans fault. Is not.

[Dana Perino]

Why didn't Mike Johnson just bring the bill to the floor?

[Jesse Waters]

There can be politics, but everybody knows. And especially that's actually pretty disingenuous to suggest that it's the Republicans fault. The Democrats are the ones who wanted this in the first place, Jessica. They wanted to change 11. They got the changes that they asked for. The Secretary of Homeland Security got fired. They put Tom Homan in. They say, okay, you know what, we'll do this, we'll take this, we'll put the numbers on the badge. We'll just, we'll do anything.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, body cameras.

[Jesse Waters]

Yes, we'll do that.

[Charlie Hurt]

Too.

[Jesse Waters]

We'll do all of these things so that there's an intramural squabble about how you ultimately get it done. We all know the reason that it actually happened, and it's because Chuck Schumer does not want to be primaried by Alexandria Ocasio.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Yeah, it's like, Jessica, you sound like the lawyer for a criminal who's blaming the cops for not capturing him sooner. This is like, what else could we do? We tried. We tried. But you know what? I want to bring out a contrast between compassion and politics. Because if a young woman was murdered by an illegal alien, you would think a politician who was also a woman would speak out on her behalf, right? AOC not said a word. What if that young woman went to the same high school as that girl? As that young female politician? No, Sheridan Gorman and AOC both went to Yorktown High, and nobody really talks about this, especially her. She could have easily have gone on X and just said something about her or even consoled the parents. But why didn't she? Because she chose politics over people. Why wouldn't she say anything? I mean, maybe if Sheridan were a victim in a protest against ice, she would have. But this, to me, this one case in comparison, is a microcosm of the entire issue. For progressives, politics makes suffering transactional. If her death cannot provide the movement the weaponry and power that it needs, they don't need it. They don't care. At the heart of it, they don't like people.

[Jesse Waters]

Can I add one other thing? Because it does show to me that how inept the Democratic politicians are, even just strategizing and thinking they got what they wanted out of president, they had him in a corner. And instead of saying, we won, and rubbing it in his face and saying, and now there's five other things that we want. Yeah, they just walked away. And now they think that they're going to win on this. I mean, I think that people could blame all of Congress, it's fine, but they certainly don't think that it's just Donald Trump's fault. Unless you're at the no Kings protest.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Yeah. Jessica, where you belong.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Dana just went off on you.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Yeah.

[Jesse Waters]

No, I didn't.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, for you, that was going off.

[Dana Perino]

It was. Which means that I actually ingested it. I would also like to add, as this vote happened 11 times prior where Democrats said, let's just fund TSA without the ISO performance.

[Jesse Waters]

Oh, my God.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Sinker.

[Jesse Waters]

Dana going for the kill swim.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm just glad you didn't say discharge petition.

[Dana Perino]

I Know. You still don't know what I'm asking.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I refuse to know. Sorry, kamala. Democrats new 2028 strategy ditches women and minority nominees.

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[Charlie Hurt]

Okay, Democrats want to leave identity politics behind because of how Trump whooped Kamala and Hillary, but instead, they just doubled down on it. The party hoping to retake the White House in 2028 are rethinking their playbook in favor of a white guy. Axios breaking it down. Some Democrats 2028 strategy. A straight white Christian man. Sorry, Michelle.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, as we saw in this past election, sadly, we ain't ready.

[Jesse Waters]

That's why I'm like, don't even look

[Greg Gutfeld]

at me about running, because you all are lying. You're not ready for a woman.

[Jesse Waters]

You are not.

[Greg Gutfeld]

So don't waste my time. You know, we got a lot of growing up to do.

[Charlie Hurt]

So, Dana, that clip is from a podcast called Call Her Daddy. I don't know what that really means, but I should listen. Do you think that. Do you like this whole idea that America is so misogynistic that they'll never elect a woman president is always kind of crazy to me because, a, I don't think it's necessarily true. I think it says more about Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris than it does anything else. But also, you're insulting voters when you say that.

[Jesse Waters]

But it's insulting to everyone. And also it makes your makes yourself feel better. Like, you don't deserve me to run through you for president because you're not ready for me? I think the other thing is that even with this story, the headline caught my eye because now they're still doing identity politics. Now they're like, oh, well, having all these other types of people isn't going to work. So now maybe we need to go back and have this particular type of person instead of just saying, let's run somebody with some great ideas, a lot of energy, and a way to lead the nation forward. That's all you have to do.

[Charlie Hurt]

Yeah. So, Jessica, do you. Are you personally ready for a straight, gentile white guy?

[Dana Perino]

Yeah, I've had it before, and I'll have it again if that's what you know, who comes out of the primary. We're gonna have like 20 people on stage. It's gonna be a big contest of ideas. But to act like we are not all processing what inherent qualities candidates have and how that could connect with certain groups is so disingenuous. Like Donald Trump picked Mike Pence cuz he had a problem with evangelical voters. Donald Trump picked J.D. vance to run with him because he was resonating very well with his sons, but also with younger people. Marco Rubio might be a great pick in 28 for the Republicans because maybe you do better with Latino voters. And it looks like there's a 40 point swing in Latino support for Republicans. This all seems like very normal politicking. And if it ends up being an Andy Beshear because that who won the contest of ideas on the primary stage, I see nothing wrong with that.

[Charlie Hurt]

So Jesse, I look forward to these big debates where you have a bunch of people on stage because it's going to be a quite a rodeo, I would imagine. But of course, Democrats always wind up rigging all of their primaries. And who do they wind up with?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, it's funny, the two ones they rigged, it was a woman who was a nominee. So maybe they should just stop the rigging and let the straight white men handle it. Right, Jessica? Just kidding. I'm going to say this as delicately as possible because this is a segment filled with minefields for someone like me. You guys should just run a gay Jew.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Amen.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Amen, brother. It's funny that way. You should just bleed with funny. No. Okay, fine. Run Gavin Newsom because this is what this is about. They're struggling to how to come to grips with running a straight white male. But Gavin is, how do I say this? He's kind of like a woman trapped in a man's body. I mean this is. You could probably convince the base that Gavin is a woman. He changes his mind a lot. He's always in the mirror, he's always crying, he's crossing his legs constantly. I think they could buy that. But honestly, I think Barack Hussein Obama did a number on the Democrats brain. First of all, his father was not African American, okay? He's from Africa. The mother. White people forget that he was mixed race.

[Dana Perino]

No one forgets it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I don't forget, okay? Hawaii was raised kind of an exotic island, then also raised in Indonesia. People always gloss over the Indonesia factor, then somehow gets into Columbia, winds up at 16 Pennsylvania Avenue. Jesse, all I'm saying, the guy was the longest of long Shots ever imagined in the United States of America. So that will never happen ever again. Something like that, with someone's resume like that, you guys got cocky, you started running women didn't work. Can you just maybe listen to me one more time? Okay. When Michelle says we ain't ready, I think she's talking about women. I think she's saying women aren't ready to be president. Talking about we're not ready for a woman president. Women aren't ready to be president of this country.

[Jesse Waters]

I think you should just keep talking till the top of the aisle.

[Charlie Hurt]

So, Greg, Jesse raises a really good point about. Yes, he did.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I swear I did.

[Charlie Hurt]

So about, about the splintering of the Democrat Party. The Democrat party, as we see from the no Kings rally, is a very splintered party. And you had for years you had Brock Obama who sort of plastered over the splintered party and then he got replaced by Donald Trump and then that plastered over a lot of their differences. In 2028, there's not going to be. Who is going to pull the party together?

[Jessica Tarloff]

Well, first of all, who splintered the party? Identity politics. Splintered it. They embraced the splintering. I loved that. The one thing about the Michelle Obama comment that I love most was the wild applause. It's like they just insult. They were just insulted by a majestic black woman. It's like we have to. Oh, thank you more. Please tell us how much we suck. And you are right about no Jews need apply. They didn't mention they said white Christian. They didn't say Jew. I do think the white male needs an identity movement on the left. Perhaps through their own lack of suffering is their own unique brand of suffering. I'm sure you could work that out. Like I've been given things so easily as a white liberal male that I am just weak and sad and I am oppressed. This is an absurd idea about their. Like they're gonna take a chance on a white male who was their last president, the oldest whitest man on the planet. And that's what tells you about this strategy is they're just looking for surface appeal in which to pour in their same woke progressive toxins so they can go, oh, look, this is a pretty straight white male. You know, this will go down in middle America. But that's what they did with Biden. And what did you get? It's not until you let go of the identity stuff. The party will then realize that they have to deal with actual policies. But the problem is they can't go to the middle ground because they let it go.

[Jesse Waters]

They can't even release the autopsy that they did of their own election because it's going to say exactly this. She wasn't good enough.

[Dana Perino]

Genuine question. Do you think that a Republican, a Jewish Republican could win on that side with what's going on with younger voters?

[Jesse Waters]

Yes.

[Dana Perino]

Really? Like the Nazi chat guys are like, he's going, no, I'm going to go, yes.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Because I think that the what you're talking about is like seven people and chatbots. Whereas you woke guys, man, you're all woke. Look at the no king you brag about no kings. That was one big vomitus woke parade.

[Dana Perino]

It was a bunch of 65 year

[Jessica Tarloff]

olds who are woke because they don't have kids or grandkids and all they have is Ms. Now their child, their child is Rachel Maddow. They love him.

[Dana Perino]

I would be very proud if we'll settle this.

[Charlie Hurt]

I think in the break the fastest is up next.

[Jessica Tarloff]

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[Jesse Waters]

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[Dana Perino]

Welcome back. Students using AI to write their term papers are not nearly as slick as they think. A professor revealing one specific word as a dead giveaway moreover quote. I've never heard a 20 year old use moreover in their life. Dana, moreover doesn't seem that insane to me to use.

[Jesse Waters]

But you have a PhD. I mean, like, okay, so like, you're maybe a different type of.

[Dana Perino]

I know. Jesse, you forgot again. I have a PhD.

[Jessica Tarloff]

How could I forget?

[Greg Gutfeld]

You keep reminding me.

[Jesse Waters]

Anyway, moreover, it's not something that a lot of people are using. And I think that I clicked on the article as soon as I saw the headline. I was like, I want to know what the word is. Moreover.

[Dana Perino]

Greg, were you surprised by how much they used AI?

[Jessica Tarloff]

Okay, so I gotta tell you, I used AI when I was putting together my last book proposal and I was using it to like. So I was trying to figure out, I'm writing a science fiction whatever, and I wanted answers on like the most plausible multiple universe whatever. And after using it, it's like, imagine going to the gym while you're on steroids and then you sit down to write. That's like going to the gym without it. And it's like I sat down and I'm like going, I could maybe I could just go over and ask him another question. Maybe I could do. It's not. If you are in the creative process, it's good for nonfiction and getting statistics, but it can really mess with your head. It is like once you've got the steroids and if you haven't been using Grok, and if you've been using Grok, you know exactly what I'm talking about. It's like it could do. It does. It has grown incredibly.

[Greg Gutfeld]

It's like once you go black, you never go back.

[Dana Perino]

Chelsea, isn't that what you just said? She swore over.

[Charlie Hurt]

So, you know, the thing that nobody ever talks about is they talk about how students use AI, but they don't ever talk about how professors use AI. They use it all the time. And I guarantee you that that professor who's complaining about it put in a program and used AI to find all the papers that say, moreover, one more thing's up next.

[Dana Perino]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Jessica Tarloff]

OMT tonight we have Tim Sherrod, Small, Hitler, Cyrus. All right, Dana.

[Jesse Waters]

Today on my podcast, I talked to Matt Whitlock. It's really great. He does, of course, the 10 minute drill every morning, which I always listen to. Well, three days a week. Excellent discussion of politics.

[Jessica Tarloff]

Nice, Jesse.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Say Zoomaraga. Like Bruce Springsteen. Zoomaraga. Oh,

[Jessica Tarloff]

hey, little girl.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Now I gotta daddy home. Johnny was at the no Kings rally. Go.

[Charlie Hurt]

What's gonna happen in the midterms?

[Greg Gutfeld]

This is what's gonna happen in the midterms.

[Jessica Tarloff]

But I thought Donald Trump was a

[Charlie Hurt]

king so there wouldn't be any elections. Don't be so cavalier about that.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You're taking this as a joke. It's not.

[Jessica Tarloff]

This is.

[Charlie Hurt]

This is you.

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I don't think you know how soon.

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