The Five

Episode: Doc: Shooter Confessed To Roommate
Date: September 16, 2025
Main Theme:
The panel discusses breaking updates and analysis on the murder of Charlie Kirk, focusing on alleged killer Tyler Robinson's court appearance, potential co-conspirators, the media’s role, political rhetoric, responses from the right and left, and the broader societal implications of political violence.

1. Breaking News: Tyler Robinson Charged in Charlie Kirk’s Murder

Key Segments:

• [01:04] Jesse Waters details the charges against Tyler Robinson, including aggravated murder and witness tampering. Robinson confessed to his transgender roommate, texting, “I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.” Prosecutors intend to seek the death penalty.
• [01:57] Paul Morrow Kennedy highlights the DNA evidence tying Robinson to the rifle.

Notable Quotes:

• “According to prosecutors, Tyler Robinson confessed to his transgender roommate… ‘I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out.’” — Jesse Waters [01:15]

Key Insights:

• Robinson's confession and communications are central to the prosecution’s case.
• Prosecutors are pressing for the death penalty, citing aggravating factors, including the presence of a child during the crime and political targeting.

2. Court Proceedings: Emotional and Procedural Details

Key Segments:

• [03:20-15:29] Live virtual court appearance of Tyler Robinson, presided by Judge Graff. Charges are read in detail, including witness tampering, obstruction, and aggravated murder. The next hearing is set for September 29th.

Notable Quotes:

• “You have a right to an attorney. If you cannot afford one, the court can appoint an attorney to represent you.” — Judge Graff [04:31]
• “This is not an insanity case. This is not a case of mental illness based on what he is accused of.” — Katie Pavlich [18:51]

Key Insights:

• Robinson appeared “emotionless, expressionless” (Jesse Waters [15:29]).
• The state is seeking additional court orders, witness protections, and preparing discovery for the defense.

3. Possible Co-Conspirators and Investigation Updates

Key Segments:

• [02:20] FBI Director Cash Patel hints at a broader web of involvement through Discord threads.
• [02:43] “There are a number of individuals that are currently being investigated and interrogated and a number yet to be investigated and interrogated specific to that chat room.” — Greg Gutfeld relaying investigative info.

Key Insights:

• The case may be larger than initially thought, with authorities tracking down leads from online forums possibly involving 20+ users.

4. Political Rhetoric, Media’s Role & Societal Blame

Key Segments:

• [15:51] Greg Gutfeld criticizes the escalation of divisive rhetoric, blaming left-wing media for fostering an environment where violence is normalized against political opponents.
• [18:51] Katie Pavlich discusses the media's insufficient coverage and subtle victimization of the alleged killer. She notes selective empathy and the trend of turning perpetrators into martyrs online.
• [21:10] Mary Kathryn Ham underscores the importance of debate and the need for campuses not to silence opposing viewpoints: “Words are not violence… the only answer… is to come out and say that political violence is wrong, full stop.”

Notable Quotes:

• “He said some hatred can't be negotiated with. Well, where did that belief actually come from? … This rhetoric has been part of the Democratic media industry complex for the past decade.” — Greg Gutfeld [15:51]
• “This is demonic and they are threats to your physical safety, to your children's physical safety. And so there's nothing wrong with expelling these people from polite society.” — Jesse Waters [34:03]

Key Insights:

• The panel sees a pattern where the legacy media and some on the left allegedly excuse or downplay left-wing violence, while demonizing the right.
• Debates whether media coverage turns perpetrators into martyrs, and critiques lack of coverage for victims (e.g., Erica Kirk’s address).

5. Responding to "Cancel Culture" & Media Hypocrisy

Key Segments:

• [28:16] The panel discusses social media firings of individuals celebrating Kirk’s murder, contrasting it with left-wing opposition to “cancel culture.”
• [29:19] Greg Gutfeld responds to Jimmy Kimmel’s false implication of a MAGA connection, critiquing the denial and projection within mainstream media figures: “You are the bad guy in the movie. You're not a defender of democracy, you're a defender of destructive delusions.”

Key Insights:

• Strong criticism of double standards—calling out media and cultural figures (Kimmel, Colbert) for hypocrisy and politicization.
• Pointed arguments that those advocating or excusing violence should be removed from influential positions (education, government).

6. Investigating Funding, Extremist Organizations, and Solutions

Key Segments:

• [36:14] Waters and Kennedy discuss following funding trails behind extremist groups like Antifa, suggesting investigations into money laundering and support structures.
• [36:24] Kennedy argues for more aggressive legal/prosecutorial strategies targeting financial structures sustaining extremism.

Key Insights:

• The right argues that institutional scrutiny should be directed at following the money behind left-wing radical organizations.
• Calls for designating antifa-style groups as terrorist entities and using financial crimes prosecution to dismantle extremist funding.

7. The Broader Cultural and Political Landscape

Key Segments:

• [38:55] Transition to President Trump's military actions against narco-traffickers, contrasted with past approaches to the war on drugs.
• [44:55] Brief discussion of New York Governor Kathy Hochul endorsing socialist Zoran Mandani, reflecting concerns about Democratic Party shifts further left.

8. Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “If you designate the other side as Hitlerian or fascist, why would you negotiate with them?” — Greg Gutfeld [15:51]
• “He's not even human. This guy is an excremental byproduct of a progressive ecosystem…” — Paul Morrow Kennedy [25:38]
• “If you remove debate, the only thing that's left is violence.” — Greg Gutfeld [15:51]
• “You have a right to say Charlie Kirk deserved to die… but you don't have a right to work at this company… You are basically telling the world you're evil.” — Jesse Waters [34:03]
• “We need rational thought and critical thinking back on college campuses…” — Mary Kathryn Ham [22:35]

9. Timestamps: Important Segments

• 01:04 — Initial summary of charges and Robinson’s confession
• 02:20 — FBI testimony and the Discord investigation
• 03:20–15:29 — Live court hearing details, reading of charges
• 15:51 — Gutfeld’s monologue on rhetoric and violence
• 18:51 — Pavlich on media coverage and the killer’s victimization
• 21:10 — Ham on debate and violence
• 23:27 — Kennedy on evidence and leveraging witness tampering
• 25:38 — Kennedy on the progressive ecosystem and motive
• 28:16 — Discussion of cancel culture and social media firings
• 29:19 — Gutfeld and panel on Kimmel, media disinformation
• 34:03 — Waters on consequences for excusing political violence
• 36:24 — Kennedy & Gutfeld on following funding to antifa-style organizations
• 38:55 — Trump and the war on drugs
• 44:55 — Discussion of NY politics and party shifts

10. Closing Remarks & Panel Tone

• The episode is urgent, angry, and confrontational—calling for the end of rhetorical escalation and the holding of all sides accountable.
• The hosts urge justice through the courts, denounce both-sides-ism, and call for reasserting law and order as a conservative value.
• Panelists repeatedly stress that the debates over violence, political identity, and media responsibility are at a crossroads, with lasting consequences for society and political discourse.

For listeners:
This episode offers a sweeping, raw, and sometimes graphic examination of the political and cultural dynamics surrounding the assassination of Charlie Kirk, emphasizing deep distress at how violence is rationalized or ignored in political discourse and the media. It is a must-listen for those seeking to understand the conservative perspective on recent events—and the urgent calls for reform, accountability, and a return to civil debate.