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Hello, everyone.
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I'm Dana Perino along with Kayleigh McEnany, Harold Ford Jr. Jesse Waters, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. So we are just two hours away from the first polls closing on election Day. New Jersey and Virginia are electing governors. New York City is choosing a mayor. And that race could forever alter the course of the Democratic Party. Democratic socialist Zo run Mamdani, former New York Governor Andrew Cuomo and Republican Curtis Sliwa duking it out for who leads the Big Apple. President Trump weighing in by endorsing Andrew Cuomo and threatening to cut funds if Communist Zoran Mamdani wins the mayor's race. Here's what the candidates are saying.
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Endorsements that Andrew Cuomo has got. We're talking about Donald Trump, Elon Musk and Stephen Miller. These are the architects in many ways of the crisis of authoritarianism that New Yorkers are facing.
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And Andrew Cuomo is so unwilling. President Trump is pragmatic.
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He is telling them the reality of the situation, which is if you do not vote, Mamdame is going to win.
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Who is Mamdami? I don't know, but he's a Democratic socialist. He'll bring socialism to New York City.
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New York City will not thrive with a socialist economy. Cuomo needs to go back, hide under.
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His rock out in the Hamptons with his billionaire friends who have left really, a sten over the city of New York.
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Some top Democrats are fawning over Mamdani's campaign. Barack Obama was offering to be a sounding board, others not so sure.
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Do you see Mamdani as the future.
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Of the Democratic Party? No, I think the future of the Democratic Party is going to fall, as far as we're concerned, relative to the House Democratic caucus members who are doing a great work all across the country.
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Kayleigh, let me turn it over to you and just set the picture for us because these are races that are local and state elections, but I think that they have bigger consequence for the country going forward.
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Without a doubt. I mean, you think back to 2021 and you think about this huge victory by Glenn Youngkin, and then you also think about how close Jack Cittarelli came. And the animating themes of those elections were, were transgenderism was one of them. The woke agenda was another. Parents having rights in schools. And, oh, wait, if those sound familiar, they should because they animated the election that won Donald Trump the White House. But we knew these themes were percolating up four years ago, four years prior to that moment because of a night like tonight. So we will see themes in Virginia where it looks like the Democrat has the advantage, in New Jersey where these are the more moderate candidates. And when Jessica Tarlov is back, I'm sure she'll say this is proof that moderates win and that's the message of the Democratic Party. But we can't lose sight of Zoran Mamdani, a Democratic Socialist who is poised potentially to take over New York City. Let me just say this about Zoran Mamdani. He's selling voters a basket of lies. And there are two facts that I found today that I think are very important. One, the state that spends the most on welfare and education combined is New York City. No state spends more than New York state on those two items. In fact, they spend 72% more than Texas on that, 130% more than more than Florida. Zoran wants free childcare that would cost, let's see, 6 billion a year. He wants free buses. He wants city owned grocery stores. So you already have the biggest welfare state and you want to pour more into the welfare state at the same time. Fact number two, millionaires are leaving. There's been a 2% decline in millionaires. If you look at that $10 million and above bracket that you really need to fund the programs, 10% have fleed over a four year period. So your taxpayers are dwindling. You are promising free stuff and you are, I hate to say it, it sounds harsh, lying to your voters who are not going to wake up tomorrow with free child care, city run grocery stores and the like. And it's really quite awful what he's doing. But it's going to be a wake up call for the nation. When you contrast a robust Trump economy that I believe is on the horizon.
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And Zoran Mandami and Harold, this is in addition to the political parties going through realignments, the Republicans quite farther along than the Democrats on that front. But it's also the first real election, I think, since COVID where you have the change in the electorate in terms of who has left. So you have a different type of electorate right now than you did even five years, four years ago.
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You're right. It's good to be with everybody. Just to put some of this level setting around New York. The last two mayors we've had, Bill de Blasio, who served for eight years, he thought he was a national figure. He ran for president and his campaign was roundly rebuffed. Eric Adams was mayor. He started off on a great trajectory and projected himself and billed himself as the future of the party that if the Democrats wanted to succeed, they needed to follow him. He ran into some obstacles. He now finds as he's leaving, many of the things that he wanted to do, he's actually doing. Crime is coming down the city. The economic plight of the city is actually improving in many ways. Two, Mondami won't be the face of the Democratic Party or the life of the Democratic Party. He'll be part of it. And I'm not prepared at 5:15 to say that he's won. You worked for a president who they said he had lost and he actually won the race.
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Yeah, exactly.
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But let's let the voters make their cast their votes. We still have 4 hours, 3 hours and 45 or 55 minutes to go in this race. 3. I look at the Democratic Party and look at some mayors and I've mentioned these people on the show before. The mayor of your home city of Philadelphia, Sherrelle Parker, she beat a guy and helped beat a district attorney who many believe rightly so, were just letting criminals back onto the streets. She ran on a black woman, ran on a tough crime message in San Francisco. We've made fun of them. We've talked about serious challenges they face. They unelected. A Democrat ran against another Democrat in the primary, Daniel Lurie, and is now tackling crime in a different way and trying to bring about more investment in the city in many way. Much like Marjorie Taylor Greene and Matt Gaetz are not the face of the Democratic of the Republican Party. He won't be the face of the Democratic Party. But where you're right, Kayleigh, is that he has touched on the issue that I think has animated this race not only in New York, but all across the country. There's a mayor's race in Seattle tonight. DP faced with the same kind of thing. A progressive running against a young progressive running against an incumbent.
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Yeah. A young white woman running against a diverse older guy who's like, wait, I did all the right things and nobody likes me.
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But we'll see. So we'll see what happens there. And that race also will be a telltale. I want to let the voters vote tonight. I think the real race is your home state of Jersey. What? Your home state, but where you count as one of your homes.
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Oh, wow.
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Excuse me.
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One of her places you call home tonight. That race tonight will determine who's the winner tonight, Republicans and Democrats. I don't think the margin really matters as someone that lost a race and people who voted for me said we were enthusiastic for you. And the people who voted for the other guys said we were so so on them. I'd much rather win a race with unenthusiastic majority than lose it with an enthusiastic minority. So that race tonight is the one I'm watching the most. And in New York, everybody's watching the margin. If indeed Mondame wins, does he get over 50? He obviously has a mandate to do some of the things that Kaylee so eloquently talked about.
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Before I ask Jesse a question just so that I'm sure everybody's notice on your screen. We have the Fox News voter poll up there, so we'll be getting more from Sandra Smith towards the end of the show. But you can see a few of these things perkling in and just from a quick glance, the economy, Jesse is certainly the big deal. But Trump and Mamdani, the Democrats want Trump to be the end all, be all. Republicans are going to make Mamdani the face of it. And he is not a shrinking violet. He wants to be the party, the party leader.
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That'll never happen, but Hannity will make it happen. You know, this is the stupidest thing. We're being told we have to vote for a guy who killed our grandparents so the other guy doesn't win and kill their grandchildren. This is like saying to a guy on death row, how do you want to die? You want the firing squad or do you want the chair? Who cares? None of these two men are going to save New York City. It's how who's going to make us suffer less? That's why Harold should have run and Harold would have won. And then he would ask me for money and I would have said, I'm sorry, Fox News prohibits me from making political donations.
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I would have asked Emma.
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So think about how selfish this guy Andrew Cuomo is. He only wants Donald Trump's help when it helps him. When Donald Trump was trying to help New York with migrants and Covid and crime, they said, no, no, no, and they smack his hand away. This guy Mondame was created by the Democrats, Bidenomics, the Green New Deal, mass migration. They drove up prices sky high in this town and now they're panicking because this Muslim immigrant has swooped in and said communism is going to deliver the American dream. They're asking for us to vote Democrat. That's how dumb this has gotten. For a guy who looks like a basset hound, whose ads are trash, who's lazy, he's stupid and we have to Vote for this guy because you guys screwed the city up so badly that communism's here. No, this guy did tap into something. We got to give him that. He said we're going to deliver dignity, upward mobility. And the Democrats didn't talk about anything. They talked about Trump and they didn't even say anything. So now we're in a situation where you have to protect civilization. You know, the last two Democrats here didn't do it. The guy in the White House didn't do it. You can't monkey around with a virus and just shoot it into Manhattan. You can't pour 2 million third world people into Manhattan. You can't open jails. You can't do these things and expect this place to survive and then ask Republicans who make up like this percent of the electorate to bail you guys out. So I'm sorry, this is going to. Have you made your bed? You're going to have to sleep in it.
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I'm sleeping in that bed. Sorry.
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And you know what? In your bed?
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Yes.
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Kidding. I'm not even going to try.
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Dana.
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Good cities, cities that are well run are not an accident. Right. And I feel that Mamdani feels, it seems to me that he thinks that this job is going to be easy.
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Zoran may be not a harbinger of the future, but a result of the past. Like, like he's like the, the tail at the comet of wokeism. After a decade of punitive terrible ideas, the beast that was created a torrent of bad ideas of this is the hangover, this is the bottom. So this is the way I'm trying to tell myself things won't be so bad is that he's the end of something and not the beginning of something. When you, when you put it down on paper, it's so improbable that it has to be orchestrated. I'm sorry, I'm not a conspiracist. You have a hard left. Hard left socialist with no managerial background. 34 years old, hatred for capitalism and Jews. Said cops were a threat to public safety. Said he was going to target white neighborhoods. What does that sound like to you? It sounds like an antifa Twitter feed of the last 10 years but now harnessed with a publicist and millions of dollars in the bank. I never heard from Zoran why he wants to be mayor. Never heard that. Imagine I'm thinking of myself as a 34 year old living in New York or Jesse, we have a career we want. We don't just. We don't think for a minute that we could be mayor of the world's greatest city. He didn't think he would be. Someone else did. So he, it feels to me, I mean, he has no connection to this city in my mind. It's not like. It's not like any of the previous mayors who just. They just are synonymous with New York City. He's synonymous with the quad at Columbia, if that. He's a 34 year old with no experience. He's like slotted into a role like an actor chosen for a part. And he was chosen because he had no backstory, even the backstory that they find now. It's the stuff that he said recently, but he's yet to come up with a passionate reason why for doing this. He will tell. If you ask him, like, what. What do you love about New York City? What do you think he'll say? The diversity. He might say the people, the energy, the life. And it's like none of those things are what make New York great. Those are. That's the. The result of the things that make New York great. He has no system for creating that. He might say he loves diversity. What is his idea for diversity? Is that pumping in another million illegals? No, you have a system, an industry made from hard work, a tax base, all of these people. It's the irony that you need a rigid, well thought out system to give the appearance of a free and loose city. You need for that freedom to be protected. But if you do the reverse and you have this chaotic buffet of, you know, cashless bail, sanctuary cities, free everything, it's going to be a mess. And then what happens when it's a mess? You get that, you get the reverse, which is a crackdown. If these people want, you know, National Guard on their streets, you can sure as hell get there faster with Mandani, because it's going to be chaos.
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Well, I was just thinking of that phrase. Or was it Frank Sinatra? If you can make it there, you can make it anywhere. But now, because of people being able to work from home and also other states, you don't have to have Wall street here.
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Yeah.
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So it's like if you don't have to make it here in order to have a great, successful life. But what you're saying is that the wonderful things about New York City is that if you get here and you work really hard and you have a big idea, you can get there. It's not a handout.
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Yeah, but, but, but Democrats herald. What's the word I want to say? Accepted. Democrats run on the goal, but they have no system attached to it. So they'll just say diversity.
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No, no. But he's not a Democrat. He's a socialist Democrat.
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I mean, that's a party line.
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He won the Democratic primary. Yes, He's a Democrat. Welcome to your party.
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No, that's not my party. He's a socialist. He says he's a socialist.
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The party's nomination be a difficult, that's.
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Going to be a very difficult to split and I don't know how they'll do. We'll see. All right, coming up, the Democratic candidates are making these races all about President Trump as Nancy Pelosi unleashes her most unhinged attack yet.
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I can't think of nothing else for.
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You all night and day.
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It's like I got a first class seat upon office train.
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The first poll is closing in less than two hours and all eyes are on those big governors races in Virginia and New Jersey. The Democratic candidates are hoping to coast a victory on the same old playbook they've been using for a decade, making it all about fighting Trump. But those attacks pale in comparison to what the wolf of Wall street just unleashed. Nancy Pelosi is going beast mode on Trump watch.
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He's just a vile creature, the worst.
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Thing on the face of the earth.
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But anyway.
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You think he's the worst thing on.
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The face of the earth?
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I do.
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Yeah.
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I do.
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Why is that?
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Because he's the President of the United States and he does not honor the Constitution of the United States. In fact, he's turned the Supreme Court.
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Into a Roe court.
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He's abolished the House of Representatives. He's chilled the press. He's chilled the press. He scared people who are in our.
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Country Legally, Dana, that sounds like a.
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Bitter woman who's out of power and.
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Maybe somebody who's thinking about hanging up her spurs. She wears spurs. I think she has got spurs on her tongue because she's got a sharp one. I mentioned yesterday you weren't here for this. Brilliant point. I'll say it again. Trump is the only thing holding both parties together at the moment. And for the Democrats, it's certainly at their peril because they're about to have this big intramural fight about who can be in the tent. And is Zoran Mamdani a socialist who can be in the tent, who is the leader of New York City and basically the leader of the party with all the energy? Because he certainly thinks he is. And the media is going to give him that opportunity. And he doesn't even really need the media. He talks directly to the young people. And so you're going to see this in Minnesota, going to see it in Seattle and other places that I can't even think of right now where you have very far left progressives who might not be called Democratic socialists, but look at their programs. That's what they are. I was surprised on this point about Abigail Spamberger. You know, Abigail Spamberger and Mikey Sheryl, these are the two gubernatorial candidates in Virginia and New Jersey. They were elected as independents. Okay. When they were recruited by Pelosi, these were the ones that could win in a swing district. They won. Then they were the ones who joined the Problem Solvers Caucus. Those are the people that are supposed to be able to be civil. Spamberger says she has no interest in working with Trump. So she's going to be the governor of a state that's 15 minutes away from the Oval Office. And she doesn't think it's important to have at least a relationship with him, like maybe to help get the shutdown. And if you think about the mayor of D.C. muriel Bowser, she said, okay, let me just work with him. What are the changes? You just got back from there and by all accounts, it's better in terms of it's beautiful. And you have to wonder, what is it that they stand for? Cheryl and Burger, I think I was going to say Stanberg, Micah, Sheryl and Abigail, they have not said what they are for. We absolutely know what they are against. Spamberger could not even bring herself, as a woman leading the race by so many points, to say that Jay Jones, who is the attorney general candidate on the Democratic side who said it was okay to murder his opponent, she couldn't even have the strength to distance herself from that. And this was two weeks after Charlie Kirk was assassinated. So I don't know what is going to happen in either of these states. I do think that New Jersey is much closer than Virginia. And if that happens, then there's a little bit more of a mixed message for the Democrats.
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Gigi?
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Yes, JW So I said, like Zoran's like the hangover of wokeism. Nancy is the hangover of tds. She reminds me of the, like, I don't know, this might be too elitist, but if you, at a co op meeting or a condo meeting, she's one of the elderly tenants who comes in and just complies. The kids are making all this noise. She has, she's at her wits. And this is what an addiction to one idea gets you. I mean, she, she looked irrational. There was no function in her brain. She's a remnant of the past. This is what, this is why. This is where Trump derangement addiction brings you to that spot where you're this mental unwellness. How many more examples do you need of this? I've yet to see anybody who's in the throes of Trump derangement ever improve or get better or be successful. Once they're in it, they can't get out. They need to get complete deprogramming, go to some spa in the middle of nowhere, do some trauma therapy. And you're right, Trump is the only thing the party has because they cannot articulate ideas that are counter to his because his are common sense. They're like, so the Democrats are like a yo yo champion and they're, you know, it's every. They can't do anything. They can't help you, but they could sure do yo yo tricks. And their only trick, their only yo yo is Donald Trump.
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Yeah, she does not look good in that video. How do you think she's processing all these successes?
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She's clearly deranged. To your point, Greg, look, she said Donald Trump has chilled the press. The man has more press availabilities than anyone. Certainly more than President Biden said he abolished the House of Representatives. That would be news to President Trump. The House of Representatives has the government shut down along with the Senate, who can't get past the filibuster. And then she says that Donald Trump's the worst thing on the face of the earth. I could spend the entirety of the show extrapolating on what an asinine statement that is. I could never call Pelosi the worst thing on planet Earth or Hakeem Jeffries or any other normal mainstream American citizen who hasn't committed a crime. Worst person on planet Earth, really. Worse than Hamas, who killed children. Worse than Putin, who abducted children. Worse than the person who assassinated Charlie Clark. Worse than the attempted assassin of President Trump himself. You think President Trump is worse than the guy who tried to assassinate him? It is an asinine statement, and it is not from a rogue member of the House. It is from the former speaker of the House, and that is disgraceful.
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Harold, do you condemn Nancy Pelosi's attack on this president?
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Wholeheartedly, I condemn all these attacks. I'm a believer that you can have rabid and massive disagreements about a whole range of things. We disagree on a lot of things around this table. But that doesn't mean that you have to hold hate in your heart for someone or hate someone. And that's unfortunately where so much of our politics is descended. I don't know what I can guess and surmise some of the things that maybe Leader Pelosi is upset about. And she probably, if you ask her, and I may, I hope, would regret saying that he was the worst person on the face of the earth in light of not only the examples that Kayleigh has given, but we can all think of examples of scum. What I think is telling about all this is that the American people today, in some parts of the country, are going to have a chance to vote on. It's kind of a referendum on this kind of politics. People want answers and outcomes. You think about it today, more Americans believe that the American dream is out of reach for their kids and grandkids than ever before. You have fewer Democrats who are patriotic, who claim great American patriotism than in the last 30 years. In fact, Republicans are at a lower number. You showed me that unbelievable graph just the other week. This is what I think is distressing and frankly, what people should be focused on. One of the reasons that. Madame, and you said it in your opening statement, Greg, about Mondambi, one of the reasons he's been able to attract some attention and get some traction is that he's talking. He's diagnosed the problem. Right. He just doesn't have the right answers. And all of these candidates, including the race in New Jersey, energy prices, property taxes, these are all affordability issues. The only good thing about where we are is as bad a moment as we are in politics, voters are focused on those issues that are going to make their lives better. And at the core of making their lives better is Making things more affordable. We don't get to answers with the kinds of things that Ms. Pelosi said. I would agree. We get to answers with people having honest debate and for that matter, voters being able to say here's whom we want to lead us out of this mess. And we'll see tonight if voters made the right decision not by which party they chose, by whether or not the people, but better said by whether or not the people whom they choose are able to lead them to higher.
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I must destroy you.
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I must.
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I have to say. Equality became equity became affordability.
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No, the country. We've always been on a. We've been on a affordability for whom?
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From whom?
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Right.
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But answer the question, Mr. Ford. You'll be asked to leave.
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I'll tell you this. New Jersey voters are saying they don't like to the fact that this one energy company is raising their prices. So there may be shareholders in that company, there may be friends of yours who invest. All I'm saying is this is what politics at its best tries to do and hopefully we get away from the hate and get more to solving.
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Can I just say one more thing at the risk of the wrath of the control room. Right. We had the Fox voter poll and it said that Glenn Youngkin, the governor of Virginia has a 57% approval rating. We wouldn't even be talking about Abigail Spamberger right now if Virginia governors were allowed to run for two terms.
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He should just stay in the governor's mansion.
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Jesse, how dare you.
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Just a suggestion ahead. The Democrats green new scam is on the ballot, but one candidate is promising to bring back plastic bags.
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Everybody, let's have some fun. You only live for once and when.
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You dare, you done.
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And it's a good time.
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Folks have been asking.
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Well, high taxes and the Democrats green news scammer on the ballot. In New Jersey, where the governor's race has tightened up, residents have been slammed by sky high electric bills, up 22% from last summer. Republican Jack Cittarelli has been hammering his opponent, Mikey Sherrill on that issue. But guess which quality of life topic actually earns Cittarelli the biggest applause?
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And the best part of my energy master plan. At the supermarket you can have back your plastic bags.
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You know, people may laugh, but Dana, these niche issues matter. I remember one of our best selling products at the Trump campaign when I was there was plastic straws, like people love straws.
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And also dishwashers, the water pressure on showers. And I remember in 2015, I think like early 20, late 2015, when President Trump did a town hall, one of the things he said was this country has become too politically correct. And that was just a gigantic applause line. And so, yes, I think these things can matter because the plastic bag is representative of everything else. The electricity bills are high, but there's a reason for that. They didn't just all of a sudden get high. It's because the Democrats in the state hiked up the bills. And Mikey Sheryl's answer to that has been, well, I'll just freeze it for a year. But he was going to freeze it for a year at the highest levels without another plan. Like, what else are you going to do? Jack Cittarelli actually has an all of the above energy plan. He takes some knocks for not being willing to put windmills off the coast of New Jersey, but maybe that's because he cares about the whales. Jesse?
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Yeah, I mean, Harold, to the point Dana just made, Jack Cittarelli says why would we freeze energy prices at the highest level? We want them back to where they were before.
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Look, the only thing I like about this part of our show and talking about this, at least these people are talking about issues. I do think some of them are smaller than they should be. But, but voters want to know how you're going to make their lives better. And I never heard a debate quite like what we're having here about if you're going to freeze at the highest level or you're going to sue them like Shapiro is doing. What's the. Because Governor Shapiro in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania is doing that. I remember when campaigns ended on. We're going to create better paying jobs. We're going to make sure AI, we're going to embrace the good of it and ensure that it doesn't displace you. We're going to improve our schools. We're going to make sure we get the homeless off the street and we're going to deal with the mentally ill. We're talking about now plastic bags and I get it, I understand, I mean, I like plastic straws also. But at the end of the day, at the end of the day, as we look 5, 10, 15 years down the road, where do, where is it that we want to be and being able to. You don't use straws when you, when you sip Sprites or Diet Cokes like.
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I do, but try not to.
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But people, people want that if that's what they want. But this is not. Our campaign's got to get bigger. We're going to be patriotic again and people are going to think the American dream is within reach. It's not because they can use a plastic straw at Starbucks or Chipotle. They want to know how their lives are going to be made better. So at least we're off to a little bit more of a start than some of the.
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I mean, I don't know, Greg, walking down the street with that paper bag and all your groceries fall out everywhere. It's not ideal.
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It is so embarrassing.
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I've seen his bag of groceries fall out too. So I can only imagine you.
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Hold, hold it, Harold. I cannot vote for some. For somebody named Mickey.
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Mikey.
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Mikey. I just can't. I mean, what is he, a 12 year old boy? It's just, it's ridiculous. Look, I'm going to say something's going to be shocking, but energy is power.
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We write that down.
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And what held us back was as an opportunity cost was the trillions and trillions of dollars wasted on a fraudulent climate agenda. Trump called global warming fake news. It was blunt. But he saw how fraudulent the climate models was. He knew it was BS because he hasn't experience reading data. He was speaking after looking at the numbers. Now you're seeing this whole issue kind of like evaporate. The Chicken Littles, from Gore to Pippi Longstocking has disappeared. Gates is all in on nuclear and you brought up AI. This is where you're going to need to. The bigger story is they need to modernize the grid. They're going to have to and you're going to need a mix of sources that include advanced nuclear power. And I think that's going to happen. This is where. And obviously have to streamline permits so you can build new energy places. What are they called? Thank you, Dana. Thank you. And these data centers are going to take a lot of power. So my point is, my point is Democrats can no longer be children about energy. Adults only should apply to this arena. We can't have Al Gore. We can't have Leo DiCaprio. We cannot have Greta talking about this stuff anymore because they let us down. A really destructive path we need to focus on this is the future for us is how much is energy. The country with the most energy wins. And this stuff is going to be really expensive until we start embracing nuclear, which we have basically shunned for decades because we were lied to.
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And Republicans were just as guilty of shunning as Democrats.
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Jack Citarella said day one, executive order, get rid of the carbon tax. Jesse?
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Yeah. So the Democrats are saying stuff's expensive. They've been in charge for a decade. In New Jersey, they've run the legislature for two decades. They're saying, oh, taxes are too high. Okay, the sixth highest income tax, second highest property tax. They've been running the state forever. And they shut down power plants, they shut down nukes, they shut down coal. Anytime you want to try to put a pipeline natural gas through New Jersey, they block it. They spent billions on windmills that don't work. And now they're like, oh, stuff's expensive. Get out of here. This woman, Mickey, Mikey, I don't care.
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What you call her.
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Call her the white Kamala Harris. They asked her what she wants to do on day one, and she was the dumbest woman I've seen of all time. I've seen a lot of dumb women.
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She was asked her number one priority that she'd want from the federal government. She said a block grant. I'm like, really? That's the best you can come up with? Give me money. All right. Up next, political violence is on the ballot in Virginia.
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Polls closing in a little over an hour from now in some key races in Virginia where voters are set to pick their first female governor. But it's the state's attorney general race that's getting a lot of attention. Democratic candidate Jay Jones is under fire after violent graphic text surface where he appeared to fantasize about murdering a Republican colleague. DP your thoughts about this race. History will be set. But certainly this. Well, there used to be a thing.
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Called shame in politics, and apparently there is none anymore. And I know that people would say that could be true on both sides. Jay Jones should have been forced out of the race. Abigail Spamberger could have put a stop to it. She was already ahead in the polls. I think it would actually have enhanced her polling in that state. And it's going to be really fascinating to see how Democrats vote to put in somebody who celebrated gun violence in a text. When ever there's gun violence, they run to the microphones and give speeches about how we need to do something about gun violence and civility in politics.
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Gigi, I just want to give $10 to Dana. She broke the span burger reference record.
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Yes, yes.
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You know what kills me? The phrase political violence. It's a terrible term. Just call it violence. Yeah, because politics was invented to replace violence to. As a method to settle disagreements. It's a nonsense phrase, political violence. And I'll tell you why. It's also like, you know, you don't mention commerce violence when you talk about a mugging. You know, commerce is designed to prevent, you know, mugging and pillaging. You know, somebody mug. Oh, that's another example of commerce violence. It's just violence. The reason why they say political violence, and it comes from the left, is that it builds in an excuse, a justification, and a dash of romance into the crime. Well, yeah, it's an act of political violence. Well, you know, he did it for the cause. He's so passionate. It's used as a way to somehow deflate the horrid nature of it. So his. What's his name, Jay didn't threaten political violence. He threatened to murder a family. In any arena. Think about this. In any arena, you would not hire him. You wouldn't want him near your children, yet you would have him as attorney General. It's like for a party that supposedly condemns extremism, you're okay with this. I keep thinking that the Democratic Party keeps losing credibility until they have none left. They still managed to even get further down bottom than they already were. Next time they call us heartless, I'm just going to say, how's Jay Jones doing?
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Yeah, Kaylee, your thoughts on this?
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Yeah. Is it worse that New York City is on the cusp of electing a socialist who could not quickly say that terrorist who kill infants, put them in ovens, should not have arms? Or is it worse that Virginia's could be on the cusp of electing an attorney general who said two bullets for two children? I mean, that's a pretty sad state of the Democratic Party in my view. Put aside the economy, crime, everything that's morality issues. And then just finally I asked artificial intelligence. Have any Democrats called for Jay Jones to step aside? Other than maybe Harold or some others? No prominent Democrat called for Virginia Attorney General Jay Jones to step aside. I could be wrong. I'd love to fact check me if I'm wrong, but other than maybe you.
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Harold Obama appeared with him on the weekend.
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Look, Jesse, And I'm going to say something about that. I did not call from this episode.
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So no Democrats.
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Well, I don't know of any.
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They're telling me we really have to go. Should I say something?
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Yes, say something.
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Okay. I was going to say, remember when Democrats would drop out for having children? Remember John Edwards?
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Yes.
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He had a baby with his mistress and got caught hiding it because he used money from his campaign and he dropped out. Now, you say you want to kill children and you stay in how much sense does that make?
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He should have come out. You know, Jay Jones should have said, I'm just really, really, really pro choice.
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Look, I'm not defending him, but he apologized and too, I think.
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Yes, we apologize. You know, I'm going to run a Viking next time. An actual Viking. All right. I don't care what he says or how many villages. I'm never backing down.
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People have every right to vote whom they want. But I think we sometimes judge ourselves and our friends by our best intentions and we judge those who we disagree with by their worst moments. That was a terrible moment. I'm not defending that. But voters have a right to vote.
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He wanted to kill kids. It was a moment. It was just a moment. I slaughter some kids.
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I had a moment.
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I had a bad day.
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Look, President Trump. Okay. Coming up, brand new data from our Fox News voter poll on the big issues shaping these key races.
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The first numbers are rolling in on how Americans are feeling about the top issues. Let's go to Sandra Smith to break down the latest Fox News voter poll. Hey, Sandra.
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Yeah.
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We asked.
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Hey, Greg. We asked thousands of voters how they were feeling, what they were thinking as they cast their ballots. And we're starting to get a look at exactly that. So let's just dive in. In order of the polls closing tonight, the Virginia governor's race, we asked voters what the most important issue is for them there. And look at this. An overwhelming 49% said it's about the economy in Virginia. Health care a distant second, immigration, then a distant third. But then if you look at some of the, some of the questions over the Jay Jones tax and that scandal from text back to 2022 and how this is affecting the attorney general's race, their possibility of a split ticket, we asked voters what best describes their opinion of those leaked texts. Almost half found them to be disqualifying. About one in four said they were concerning, but then another one in four said they weren't concerned or they hadn't heard enough about it. So we'll see how they cast their vote when those numbers start to come in. I want to jump across the river here to the governor's race in New Jersey. Some of our top findings there. And look at this. Taxes are king again. Voters are concerned about those high cost of living and the high property taxes there. And the economy was a close second. 34% said that was the most important issue facing them. We also asked about President Trump and his influence on their vote. Those in New Jersey who said that they voted to support Donald Trump, 13%. Those that cast their ballot to oppose President Trump, 38%. Now, look at this. Nearly half said President Trump wasn't a factor in that race at all. We're going to have much more on what we're looking at. The race right here for the mayor's race in New York City on Special Report coming up. Back to you, Greg.
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Thank you. Thanks, Sandra. Excellent pointing. One More Thing is up next.
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Oh, we got.
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Time now for One More Thing, Greg.
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All right, let's do this.
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Yeah.
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This will burn some seconds.
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Yeah.
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You know, I'm great news for rockers. Seems like Twisted Sister is going to be reforming. And take a look at Dee Snider getting ready out there. They're going to do an outdoor show. And he looks great, by the way. His skin is taut. But actually, that's Ellie, the gorilla at the Cincinnati Zoo. She likes to use hay to make nests. But who doesn't?
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And wigs.
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And wigs.
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All right, Jesse.
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So People's magazine have crowned world's sexiest man.
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Greg.
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Yeah.
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You were robbed again.
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I turned it down.
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Jonathan. Bailey, 37 years old. He's an English actor. He's in things I've never heard before. And he won. He has a dog. I don't know. Do I see it? Do you guys see it? I don't know if I. You see it? Dana, do you see it?
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Nope. He has nothing on John Fetterman.
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All right.
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I did not know you thought Fetterman was sexy.
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Oh, yeah.
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Very curious. Jesse Warren's primetime tonight polls at the close and we will have Harold Ford on.
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And me too.
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And you. I just. I'm finding this out right now.
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I predict Harold will be forced myself on your show.
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Are you going to be happy to.
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Be on the show?
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As I think we should all be grateful we're on this show.
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Well, we are grateful to be here and I'll see you later tonight.
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This Election Day special of The Five dives into the high-stakes gubernatorial races in New Jersey and Virginia, and the dramatically polarized mayoral contest in New York City. The panel—Dana Perino, Kayleigh McEnany, Harold Ford Jr., Jesse Watters, and Greg Gutfeld—debate the national significance of these races, the ideological realignment within both parties, and the social, economic, and political flashpoints electrifying the 2025 elections. Key stories include the rise of Democratic Socialist Zoran Mamdani, Trump's surprising Cuomo endorsement, the state of American cities, and partisan attacks from figures like Nancy Pelosi.
The Candidates: Democratic Socialist Zoran Mamdani, former Governor Andrew Cuomo (D), and Republican Curtis Sliwa compete for the mayoral seat.
Trump's Role: President Trump endorses Cuomo, threatening fund cuts if Mamdani wins, signaling a direct Republican strategy to paint Mamdani as a "face of Democratic socialism."
Concern Over Socialism: Kayleigh McEnany criticizes Mamdani’s promises of "free stuff," pointing out the financial strain and exodus of high-income taxpayers from the city ([03:00]):
“You are promising free stuff… it sounds harsh, lying to your voters who are not going to wake up tomorrow with free child care, city run grocery stores and the like.” – Kayleigh McEnany [03:16]
Panel Response: Harold Ford Jr. acknowledges Mamdani’s appeal but positions him as a symptom rather than the center of Democratic identity ([04:37]):
“Mondami won't be the face of the Democratic Party… he has touched on the issue that… has animated this race not only in New York, but all across the country.” – Harold Ford Jr. [05:28]
Greg Gutfeld’s Perspective: Frames Mamdani’s rise as a "hangover of wokeism," suggesting he is more a repercussion of movement excess than a herald of the party's future ([10:46]):
“Zoran may be not a harbinger of the future, but a result of the past… like the tail at the comet of wokeism.” – Greg Gutfeld [10:46]
“Parents having rights in schools... animated the election that won Donald Trump the White House.” – Kayleigh McEnany [02:16]
“Worst person on planet earth, really. Worse than Hamas, who killed children. Worse than Putin, who abducted children...” – Kayleigh McEnany [21:13]
“You can have rabid and massive disagreements… that doesn't mean that you have to hold hate in your heart for someone.” – Harold Ford Jr. [22:16]
Quality of Life Campaigns: In New Jersey, taxes and household economics dominate, with plastic bags becoming a surprising symbol ([27:36]):
“At the supermarket you can have back your plastic bags.” – Jack Cittarelli (quoted by Kayleigh McEnany at [27:36])
Panel Humor and Frustration: Dana connects plastic bag debate to “politically correct” overreach, while Gutfeld and Jesse lament the lack of bold energy policy, mocking candidates with frivolous names ([30:10], [30:16]).
“The country with the most energy wins. And this stuff is going to be really expensive until we start embracing nuclear, which we have basically shunned for decades because we were lied to.” – Greg Gutfeld [31:28]
“Jay Jones should have been forced out of the race. Abigail Spamberger could have put a stop to it.” – Dana Perino [34:04] “He threatened to murder a family. In any arena, think about this, you would not hire him… yet you would have him as attorney General.” – Greg Gutfeld [35:12]
On the Choices Facing Voters:
“We're being told we have to vote for a guy who killed our grandparents so the other guy doesn't win and kill their grandchildren. This is like saying to a guy on death row, how do you want to die?” – Jesse Watters [07:57]
On Left-Wing Candidates:
“He is a 34-year-old with no experience. He's like slotted into a role like an actor chosen for a part.” – Greg Gutfeld [12:11]
On Nancy Pelosi's Outburst:
“She has got spurs on her tongue because she's got a sharp one…” – Dana Perino [17:14]
On Morality in Politics:
“Put aside the economy, crime, everything, that's morality issues.” – Kayleigh McEnany [36:14]
| Segment | Start Time | |----------------------------------------------|-------------| | NYC Mayoral and National Ramifications | 00:53 | | McEnany on Welfare and Tax Flight | 03:00 | | Ford on Mamdani's Role/Party Realignment | 04:37 | | Gutfeld: Mamdani as Woke “Hangover” | 10:46 | | The Panel on Pelosi's Trump Attacks | 16:35 | | McEnany Rebukes Pelosi, Ford Calls for Civility | 21:13 | | NJ/VA Governors, Plastic Bags as a Symbol | 27:36 | | Gutfeld on Energy Policy & Nuclear | 30:28 | | Political Violence: Jay Jones Scandal | 34:04 | | Fox Voter Poll Results and Panel Analysis | 38:33 |
The episode captures Election Day’s feverish blend of high drama, deep polarization, and everyday anxieties. Panelists oscillate between caustic humor and genuine worry about the direction of America’s cities and parties. Through spirited debate, pointed zingers, and a parade of memorable soundbites, The Five distills the turbulent mood of 2025: a tense crossroads for public policy, party identity, and American civic life.
For more detailed coverage, see the referenced timestamps for in-depth discussion of each major segment.