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Jesse Waters
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Kayleigh McEnany
Hello everyone. I'm kayleigh mcenany along with harold ford jr. Jesse waters, dana perino and greg gutfeld. It's five o' clock in new york city and this is the five. We bring you this FOX News alert. We are in week two, two of Operation Epic Fury as the US Military and Israel continue to decimate the Iranian terror regime at a furious clip. Centcom reports over 5,000 targets struck in Iran and 50 Iranian vessels damaged or destroyed. White House press secretary Caroline Levitt telling reporters that the operation ends when Iran can no longer back up their death to America threats. Ten days in, this campaign has been
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Jesse Waters
a resounding success thus far. And America's warriors are winning this important
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Kayleigh McEnany
fight at an even faster pace than we anticipated. When President Trump says that Iran is in a place of unconditional surrender, he's not claiming the Iranian regime is going
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Jesse Waters
to come out and say that themselves. What the president means is that Iran's
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Kayleigh McEnany
threats will no longer be backed by a ballistic missile arsenal that protects them
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Jesse Waters
from building a nuclear bomb in their country. And Iran chose this path to, to death and destruction. Iran wanted to attack the United States
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Kayleigh McEnany
of America and the president was not
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Jesse Waters
going to sit back and allow that to happen.
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Kayleigh McEnany
President Trump talking to Trey Yings, laying out the rationale for the strikes on Iran. He said, quote, no other president had the guts to do it. I don't want some president who hasn't gotten the courage in five years or in 10 years to go in. It's like a gunslinger where he draws his gun first. And the liberal media is having a close over Epic Fury by dusting off the old Russia, Russia, Russia card.
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Greg Gutfeld
According to the Kremlin, in the middle of all that, President Donald Trump called Vladimir Putin and talked to him for an hour.
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Jesse Waters
And we only learned about that phone
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Greg Gutfeld
call because the Kremlin told us about it. The White House didn't announce it, the Kremlin did.
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Dana Perino
Was it even in the White House
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Jesse Waters
calendar that today was the day Trump was supposed to check in with his
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Greg Gutfeld
boss, Trump said the war will only
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Dana Perino
stop after Iran's unconditional surrender. To which Iran replied, that's a dream America should take to their grave. Okay, that's spooky and metal as hell. Basically, we are sending people in to lose their lives. Yes, because we've seen how fighting goes.
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Kayleigh McEnany
So I was reading an old Guardian article about Maddow's history on Russia, Greg. She implied press briefings were orchestrated by the Kremlin. Never the case. I can tell you that from firsthand experience, that a strike in Syria, she concurred, might have been at the behest of Vladimir Putin and alongside him.
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Dana Perino
I don't. Do they actually believe we have no memory of the past 10 years? No one should be going to mad out Colbert or the View for any kind of foreign policy or even domestic expertise. The View is actually considered a news program by abc. That's like considering Jimmy Kimmel a comedy show. But it's a reminder that you should. When you hear these people say things and you feel like it's penetrating, you remind yourself what their stances were on Joe Biden's competence, on Russian collusion, on trans, on crime, on Hunter's laptop, on the border. They were wrong on everything. And this is why. And this is actually. This is not a great thing, but it feels like Trump has no loyal opposition. You know, nobody could take the Democrats seriously and nobody could take the media seriously because they surrendered all their credibility during the Biden years. So you can't. No one is required to take them seriously. So there's like this open road where Trump feels like he can do what he plans on doing because no one's gonna take them seriously. I think I said this to you, that there was, like. There was a. There's a new duopoly shaping where the legacy media. So here is the Trump White House, and this would have been the legacy media. They're gone, completely gone. And what's replacing it is independent media. So these are, like the people that I actually trust who I disagree completely with. I disagree with Greenwald, Tim Dillon, Red Scare, Joe Rogan on this topic. But they're not beholden to anybody. They're not covering for anybody. So I would. I take their criticism to heart. It penetrates me. But nothing I get from mainstream media comes. It's like. It's like rain hitting the windshield of a Humvee. It just. I don't feel it. The media has to realize what they've done by completely abdicating their calling to their career in terms of backing Biden and demonizing the other guy. They've left this open road and Trump is going right through it. If the media had been honest for the past 10 years, instead of gaslighting us on all of these issues that I mentioned, they could offer credible criticism and we could listen. But they didn't and we can't. So it doesn't matter.
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Kayleigh McEnany
You know, Dana, and you look at what's coming out of Iran, they told President Trump to be careful. You could find yourself eliminated. Asked about US Ground troops, potentially, they said, no, we are waiting for them. I mean, it's incredible.
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Jesse Waters
I mean, it's a country of 100 million people about, and they the IRGC, which surrounds the regime and protects them and suppresses the people, they're going to fight back. General Dan Kaine said that this morning. He says, yeah, they're fighting and I expected them to, and they might have more and where more missiles hidden. That was one of the suggestions that perhaps they're holding back to wait for something else. But the trajectory is quite amazing. What our military has been able to do to degrade the possibility or the capacity of Iran to attack their neighbors and their own people is quite extraordinary. That is nothing short of extraordinary. And of course, that includes a lot of intel, not only from our side, but from the Israelis as well. And don't forget, I think that it's important. It's not just been this past 10 days, but Iran's proxy Hamas made a terrible decision on October 7, 2023, when they decided to go in, take those people, kill those people, rape those people, take those people hostage. Many of them were Americans as well. And ever since then, Israel said, okay, that's it. And Biden sort of slow walked Israel on this. Remember all the fights that the Biden administration had, like, should we help them, should we not help them? I don't know. Finally, Israel gets to the point where they did the pager attack. They killed people, not just the pagers, but many other sort of amazing intel. Then President Trump gets in and says, okay, I will help you. I do not want them to get a nuclear weapon either. So he did Operation Midnight Hammer. And yet still Iran wouldn't stop. So I'm not at all surprised that they're like, oh, yeah, we're so big and brave, we're going to say that the president ought to watch himself. They already tried to kill him before, and previous presidents too, and many other Americans, they did kill or maim. So they're a little bit getting what they deserve. One thing I would just say that I still think is unfortunate, curious, and I hope that we get this turned around the next 36 hours. It's that there's so little capability for the people inside Iran to communicate right now. We don't know what they're saying, what they're seeing. We don't have video from inside. They can't communicate in and out. And so that, to me, is something I would love, especially as a news organization, to be able to show people what is happening inside.
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Kayleigh McEnany
Yeah, no, that's a great point, for sure. And, Jesse, looking at the MAGA base, there was a lot of conversation when this happened 12 days ago. What's the MAGA base going to do? Well, there's some polling out, and it's YouGov. And you see Republicans overall moved up from 68% support Trump to 76% on this, the MAGA base, 85% support Trump. He has a lot of trust and has earned a lot of goodwill.
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Greg Gutfeld
Yeah, you can disagree with the war, but not the war effort. We are accelerating these bombing runs, and their offensive output is collapsing. You have to look at it honestly. Like these two colleagues to my left said, everything that the Iranians have tried has failed. They tried to have a war of attrition, hunker down, let us run out of munitions and interceptors. That didn't work. They tried to hit the Arab allies. All it did was force them into America's arms. And then they tried to jack up the price of oil so the base felt the pain at the pump, and the market could pressure Trump to take a knee. That didn't happen. The market is stabilized. Oil's down to 80 bucks a barrel. And right now, the straits open. It's not completely, but they are moving tankers. And we have things we can do there. We can use ships as sentries. We could do escorts, or we could seize Carg island and they just, like, turn off their revenue with a little spigot. When Trump and Hegseth say that we're only just getting started, or, oh, they ain't seen nothing yet, that's not saying the war is going to last forever. That's a psyop to the Iranians to say we're holding a lot back. We could be hitting their electrical grids, bridges, oil depots. What we're doing is if they act stupid, we're going to reserve those targets for that punishment. Right now, we're almost executing this work compassionately. This thing could be much, much bigger. The timing of the war is really intelligent because if you see the volley of these drones and ballistic missiles, imagine five years from now how much blood and treasure the American alliance would have to spend busting down these barrages to take out the nuclear program. Their goal was to build a shield around it so we couldn't even consider the strike. People have to be a little bit more patient. We took 10 years to nail bin Laden. Two years for Milosevic, eight months for Gaddafi, nine months for Saddam. Hitler died after six years. We got this guy in 50 seconds. You have to acknowledge how great that was.
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Kayleigh McEnany
Yeah, a massive success. No doubt about it. And Harold, when you look at the idea of Iran getting nuclear weapons that would essentially insulate them, you at that point couldn't attack Iran. That's why I agree with Jesse at the time when you had to do
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Harold Ford Jr.
this, I don't think there's any doubt. It's good to be with you today as well. I'd say a couple things, and I agree with largely my colleagues to my left here. I heard General Kaine this morning, too. And I thought he gave the clearest, most coherent, most understandable explanation for what we're doing. And I would hope when he said we need to end their missile ballistic launch capabilities. We need to ensure, to Kaylee's point, they get no nuclear weapon. And three, we are knocking out the Navy and Air Force, basically eliminating their ability to have to respond militarily. Now, what I would hope is that everyone would get on the same page. Sometimes the President says that, sometimes he goes more. I disagree with you a little bit, Jesse. When I hear, I don't understand fully when the Defense, the Secretary of War and others will talk outside of what the President's saying or beyond what General Kaine is saying. They just need a central message. And perhaps, I think some of the data, some of the polling suggests, Kayleigh, that the majority of the country, and I'm not part of that majority, is not in favor of the President. I think you have to be in favor of a president when we're at war. But I think a lot of this could be solved if the President were to give a message, a national address and just lay all this out. 2. I am not one that thinks you should put a timeline on it, Jesse, but you can't. The President can't say as he did yesterday as we sat here on this set and it looked as if he was developing or pursuing some sort of off ramp and was saying that the war is basically complete. And then to hear the Secretary of War and General Kaine this morning, it appears that it's not. Again, I just want clarity. And I'm one that can live with the consequences. I think many, many Americans, including many Democrats can. I just hope at some point we fully understand it. Again, if you can, if it's a general Kaine message from this morning, the press conference, I think Americans can rally around that. And they understand that may take a week or it may take four weeks, it may take eight weeks. And then finally, I don't know if it's smart to talk about us choosing the next leader of Iran. We didn't choose the leaders of Europe after World War II. We've never chosen the leaders of a country. I understand that's not wanting a leader who wants to destroy us. But I do think it begs the question a little bit. The Israelis can't choose our leader. We certainly wouldn't choose the Israelis leader. And they are our greatest ally in the world. So I hope the President and his team do two things, get on the same page and stop talking about picking the next leader of a foreign country.
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Kayleigh McEnany
And I think it's worth saying, you know, President Trump's intent may be not having clarity, not broadcasting a timeline to Iran. And it may be part of the strategy. But time will tell. Time will tell.
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Dana Perino
Also, he chooses those, that's also a psyop. He chooses somebody he doesn't want and then they don't choose that person. I do that all the time.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Is that why you chose me for the show?
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Dana Perino
Yes.
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Kayleigh McEnany
We got lots of psyops here on five. All right. Up next, CNN is hitting a brand new low for romantic publicizing those ISIS loving terror teams.
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Dana Perino
It's starting to warm up in here.
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Harold Ford Jr.
It's hot.
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Jesse Waters
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Greg Gutfeld
The Democrats are keeping DHS shut down at the white worst possible time. ABC News is reporting Iran may be activating sleeper cells outside the country. According to an encrypted transmission that was intercepted by the United States. President Trump's lacing the left for tying the hands of the agencies responsible for monitoring threats like this.
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Jesse Waters
Iran activated any sleeper cells inside the U.S. there's reports that they have pressed
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Kayleigh McEnany
that trigger button to activate those Cells, at least abroad.
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Dana Perino
Well, we've been, they've been trying for a long time. We've been very much on top of it. One of the things we have to do is get the Democrats to stop the Democrat shutdown because as you know, the apparatus that looks into that.
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Greg Gutfeld
Speaking of terror cells, CNN is trying to play off those ISIS wannabes in New York who tried to use an IED packed with screws and deadly chemicals to murder dozens and level a city block. They tweeted, then deleted this. Two Pennsylvania teenagers crossed into New York City Saturday morning for what could have been a normal day, enjoying the city during abnormally warm weather. But in less than an hour, their lives would drastically change as the pair would be arrested for throwing homemade bombs during an anti Muslim protest outside of Mayor Zoran Mandami's home. CNN later cleaning that up, saying the phrasing failed to reflect the gravity of the incident. It was almost poetic, Greg.
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Dana Perino
I know. I'm trying to think of how they would have described 9, 11 now. Like a group of young pilots unhappy about their lifestyles on a beautiful sunny day. On a beautiful sunny day in September. That is the funny thing about how they did this. They separated the actor from the action with like three different sentences. I broke it down here. So they begin, this is the trick. The sentence begins with two Pennsylvania teens. Then they pile in all this stuff. They mention their journey, the wonderful warm weather, the time it took an hour, and then the life changing moment when they were arrested. Then you get to the part throwing homemade bombs. By the time you get to the throwing of the homemade bombs, you're not sure whether you just read a crime or a short story in the Atlantic. You got to ask though, why was it deleted? Did they delete it because they realized it was idiotic or because people mocked it? Because this is where CNN is. They have lost the plot. They don't know what is good or bad anymore. They got to close that thing down and reopen again. Do it like, you know, when a restaurant gets food poisoning. When they, when there's, they find a roach infestation to shut it down, block up the windows, reopen under a different name, CN&G. I don't know what you call it. But they also should have factored in what would have been, how the story would have been if they actually succeeded. How would their coverage have been if these douchebags had actually killed a bunch of people? You know, the only reason why they could do that portrayal is because these guys were incompetent. They had the luxury of them being incompetent. And I think if. If these two turned out to be trans, CNN wouldn't even. Even have covered it at all. I mean, that's you, right?
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Greg Gutfeld
It's like they wrote it like it was two trans guys going for brunch on a beautiful morning when they got bombed.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yes.
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Jesse Waters
And they just happened to get in with the wrong crowd and made a bad decision.
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Dana Perino
You know, it's Pennsylvania that did it to them.
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Jesse Waters
Well, I was disturbed by a couple of things. One was that one of the lawyers for these two said, oh, yeah, he hadn't never met him. He had no idea who he was. And I was like, I understand that. That's a lawyer. Lawyers at the table. I mean, maybe they're trying to figure out a way to best help their client. But I. If I were Democrats on Capitol Hill and responsible for the Democratic shutdown of the Department of Homeland Security, when we have activated Iranian sleeper cells around this country, I would say we gotta figure out a way to cut a deal tomorrow. And we have to help their travelers. Yes, but we have to figure out a way to make sure that our men and women in law enforcement and intelligence have everything they need. Because they're teenagers. Right. Well, where had they gone? They had traveled to Turkey. They had traveled to Saudi Arabia. They had gone away. What did their social media look like? I know that we can't be on top. We can't necessarily know everything that everyone is doing all at once, but if we can connect dots, it will help us prevent this from happening. These guys wanted to kill someone. That's why they're likely to spend perhaps the rest of their life in prison. Because, yeah, if they're lucky. Yeah, maybe you're right. There's something else could happen to them along the way. As to the CNN thing, I just feel like editors matter and the industry is changing a lot, and you got to put resources where it really matters because there's so much disinformation out there right now that if you want to be a trusted brand, then you have to figure out a way to knock this stuff down before it gets deleted. But I'm glad they deleted it.
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Greg Gutfeld
Kayleigh. Someone should ask Mandani, should the Democrats open dhs? If I'm on Donnie and I just got sworn in and then I almost died from a bomb, I'd say open
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Kayleigh McEnany
this government up without question. And this comes after Austin. It's like we all forgot about Austin, where Americans literally died. The guy had the ISIS flag, and this is all just in the recent period, you would think Democrats would say, let's solve this. You have millions of individuals who came to this country unvetted during the Biden administration. You had 2 million gotaways, you had 400 people encountered on the southern border on the terror watch list. All of that happened. Trend came over Mississippi, 13 came over. These people are still in our country. And to think some of them could be motivated by a situation like this. It's a really hot time period on the world stage. We need the Department of Homeland Security open. And I don't think people quite understand. It's not just immigration they deal with. It is CISA. That is the cybersecurity of the United States. It is TSA. We all remember 9, 11. It is secret Services. The Iranians say that they want to take out Donald Trump again. We just heard that last block open dhs. Why you wouldn't. It's just naked political partisanship above national security.
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Greg Gutfeld
Should it be open?
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Harold Ford Jr.
Should. I think that if both sides are being irresponsible here, and I say both sides, Democrats, some blame the Democrats, some blame the Republicans. Republicans control both chambers. But if I were the president, I'd bring them all to the White House and say we've got to at least fund the two or three agencies that are most critical here because we have a problem. I'd love if you would fund them all. And if we only do it for 60 days and let's figure out, I'm committed to doing some of the things you guys want, if you're willing to do some of the things I want. Let's get this done. Two, the intelligence sharing between. I think about. I think Paul Mauro is one of the strongest and smartest voices around these kind of issues. And I listen to him closely. The intel sharing, the elevating of the threat posture, the utilization, employment, deployment of all these technologies. This is what I'd be calling in if I were the president. All of these AI and technology leaders, not only to say, you guys need to be doing a little more for the efforts in Iran or Ukraine, I'd say, what are we doing to ensure that we know everybody that's gotten in this country the last five years from one of these nations where we think could be, could be targeting our country, be it the Iranian, the Turkish, whatever they may be, we need to be sure that all of these police forces and these sheriffs all around the country, but we're all tied into some database where we all know what's going on, because all they have to do is Dana and others around the table have said is be right one time. To me, that is the most important thing we need to be focused on. And if Democrats have to eat a little crow, if the president has to eat a little crow to ensure that the Department of Homeland Security opens up, please, for the sake of the country, do it.
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Greg Gutfeld
All right. You have to do what Harold said we do. Coming up, Kamala's holding the Democrats hostage.
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Jesse Waters
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Jesse Waters
everybody.
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Dana Perino
I don't want to brag, but, you know, they've said this about a lot of things no other president could do. Some of the I'm doing the things I'm doing. Nobody else was going to do it. I say they say it all the time, sir, could you do this? You're the only one can do it.
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Jesse Waters
President Trump taking a bit of a victory lap on his second term record while speaking at a Republican retreat. And I bet the Democrats wish they had someone like that. Instead, they're still being burdened by what has been. Kamala Harris recently turned a funeral for Jesse Jackson political. Let me just say I predicted a lot about what's happening right now. I'm not into saying I told you so, but we did see it coming. To understand, as has been said, the beauty that comes after the storm when we see what is possible and what can be unburdened by what has been. And speaking of Kamala, it's day 167 of our 107 days book tour. And now some in the party feel like it's time for her to shelve it. A political report is claiming that the former veep is buying time on a potential 2028 run. But conversations with Democrats suggest the party may already be searching for its next standard bearer. And who could that be? Well, a new survey claims that Democratic voters want a more normal party, but the forces that rule the left make that unlikely. I think we got to go to Harold first. You were there at the funeral. Was it political?
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Harold Ford Jr.
No. I mean, I, you know, people got up and gave a little bit of what they gave, but everyone was there for Reverend Jackson and except for her. And she got into the heart of it. She talked about how she enjoyed working in his first campaign, but got into the liquor cabinet. I think, I don't think there's so President Trump. I don't think there's anything wrong with having a healthy view of yourself. And he certainly has maybe more than normal, a healthy view of himself. And most presidents do. You don't expect presidents to not be robustly confident. I think I said it yesterday. I think people running for president or people running for public office this cycle need to understand that the electorate is not partisan. So the anti Trump stuff and the just anti Democrat stuff is not going to get you elected or reelected this go round. You look at the fact that 55 people are not running in Congress, 34 of them are Republican. So things are going so great. All of them are not older members who are looking to retire because of age. Some of them just don't want to be there any longer for a variety of other reasons. The electorate is looking for answers and looking for ideas and looking for solutions to the challenges they face every day in their lives. And, you know, I would say to President Trump, if you want to be a war, President Roosevelt and Truman and Reagan, who won the Cold War, I'd go back and study some of those things. And Democrats who want to beat a president in a midterm who's popular, go back and look at the kinds of things that Gingrich did back when he was able to win in 94 on the Republican side, go back and look what Democrats were able to do in 98. These are things that again, will be instructed. Just the partisan stuff won't work. You're not appealing to a partisan electorate. You're appealing to a struggling electorate. So get answers and ideas. I would argue both sides should be doing that.
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Jesse Waters
Kayleigh, you've maintained that Kamala Harris is going to run. Yes. Anything change your mind here?
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Kayleigh McEnany
No, because I think she looks at the polls and she sees herself at the top, and that's very hard. I mean, I agree everyone has a healthy view of themselves in presidential politics, President Trump and Kamala Harris included. So I think she looks at that and she wants to run. I do agree. And you've made the point about donors. Maybe there's going to be challenges with Democratic donors that could potentially be a nail in a coffin for a Kamala Trump run. Maybe she runs and maybe it's short, but I know the nation is better off that she is not president right now. And look no further than her statements, October 7, 2024. If you dig through the 60 Minutes footage now, what was aired but the unaired portions, you find that she was asked who the greatest adversary we have is. She said, well, for different reasons, we should be thoughtful. Each but most recently obvious one that comes to mind is Iran. Iran has American blood on it, on its hands. So she says that in October of 2024. And then Sunday, she comes out, donald Trump's dragged us into war. People don't want. He has put troops in harm's way. So all of a sudden, her view of Iran has changed or shifted. That's politics. Maybe, but she would not have had the courage to do this. She wouldn't have had the courage to do Maduro. You had Trump took out Maduro in January, took out the ayatollah in February. He's averaging one dictator per month at this rate, and the world's better off for it.
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Jesse Waters
I think that obviously there are many Democrats would like everyone to be talking about them, Right? But I have a feeling that most of the conversation is going to be about one Democrat in particular, at least for the next few months, and that is James Talarico in Texas, because he is going to become. The Republicans will try to make sure that he's the one everyone's talking about.
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Dana Perino
He is creepy. I don't like, you know, liberals, like, there's that old saying, republicans think you're wrong, conservatives think you're wrong, liberals think you're evil. I try to stay on my side of that lawn. I like to say you're wrong, and I like to say you're evil. But there is something dark going on in that man's soul. It's something wrong. It's like, you know, we've been reading the Bible a lot, Harold, and the devil comes in the cloak of angels, Correct? Am I quoting that? Correct.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You're on to the.
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Dana Perino
So you agree with me.
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Jesse Waters
All right.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I wouldn't call Talarico that.
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Dana Perino
Oh, no, he's the devil. All right. I'm just kidding. Am I?
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Harold Ford Jr.
I don't know.
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Dana Perino
Am I talking to myself again? Talk about who saw what coming. The survey says Democrats want normal. What have we been talking about for, what, five years here? The problem is the people in charge. They can't define normal because they're terrified of defining normal. What is normal? If somebody said what is normal? A stable household, a husband and a wife, that's normal. Maybe kids, normal, schools with discipline, schools with order, church, hobbies, sports. But these are the things that the woke deemed contaminated. By oppression and patriarchy. And what they decided is that the abnormal is transcendent. Men in dresses, in bathroom, in women's bathrooms trump normalcy. And this is the contradiction inherent in all of this stuff. They want the abnormal to be mainstream, but if it's mainstream, it's no longer abnormal. And then it must be demonized. By the way, what is the size of. What is this? I know this personally. What is the sign of a lush? It's the failure to read the room. And that's what you saw with Kamala. She's like your drunk buddy at a wedding who thinks the toast is the best time to say that he slept with the bride. She got up there, she made it all about herself. You know what? Who told you this was coming? Ladies. Don't be burdened, Dana, about what is unbendeened. Burdened and unburned. I told you so, Jesse. Helen Keller could have read that room better. She reminded me of every drunk bureaucrat on a police body camera on the side of the road going, you know I can get you fired.
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Jesse Waters
You know who I am?
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Dana Perino
Don't you know who I am? She did a don't you know who I am? At the funeral version. I saw this cover. Shut it.
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Jesse Waters
They'd only listen to her.
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Dana Perino
Yeah.
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Jesse Waters
When the Democrats say they're looking for someone normal, does that also just translate to common sense?
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Greg Gutfeld
And they don't have it. So I'm going to pretend I'm a Democrat donor. Deep pockets, like Harold. Dark money. Who do I give money to?
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Dana Perino
Right, money.
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Greg Gutfeld
Do you give it to Harris? You can't. She's cut off. You can't trust her. Do you give it to aoc? You can't give it to her. She's going to raise your taxes. Do you give it to Gavin? Not a serious guy selling knee pads. Real politicians sell watches and stakes water.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Bibles. Bibles.
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Greg Gutfeld
You can't give it to Mayor Pete because he's too gay. Not my words. Harris's. Can't give it to Shapiro. Too Jewish. Again, not my words. So you're actually now having to wait to give until the debate. That's when you have to decide when to give. And no one has knockout power. So you're gonna have to wait longer until the primaries. And again, no one's a Biden with knockout power that can clear the field as the establishment. So you might have to just sit back and wait until the convention, because last time you got burned. And you gotta be smart with your money. Like dark money. And so this thing could Go all the way to the convention. And it's gonna be fun. Cuz the 5 is gonna be there.
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Dana Perino
That's right. We're gonna.
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Jesse Waters
I already booked my flight.
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Dana Perino
Yeah, 24 hours straight.
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Kayleigh McEnany
Okay.
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Jesse Waters
Coming up, a showdown in Congress over a Biden era attempt to queer the maps. Their words, not mine.
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Jesse Waters
Make the green grass grow all around. All around. Make the green grass grow all around.
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Make momentum happen. Learn more@jpmorganchase.com impact when everybody was a
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Greg Gutfeld
monkey, we had a fight just to survive.
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And now you got yourself a weapon.
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Harold Ford Jr.
No way.
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Dana Perino
Biden tried to turn the maps gay. A Republican lawmaker quizzing a current State Department official over how Biden era grants were used for stuff like querying the maps. Roll it.
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Greg Gutfeld
Anders, can you tell me what is queering the map?
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Kayleigh McEnany
So I think we were trying to make the maps more gay.
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Greg Gutfeld
Literally. Well, how do you make a map more gay?
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Kayleigh McEnany
I mean, especially.
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Greg Gutfeld
Or gay at all.
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Kayleigh McEnany
You know, since the age of cartography, we've had for pretty good maps. But maybe they weren't gay enough, so. I know. Also, I took Critical Theory in college. I think sometimes people use queer as a verb. I do understand that the maps that we were trying to make gay were. I think of Czechia and Slovakia. So maybe those countries asked for it. I. I doubt it, but I don't know.
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Dana Perino
Well, I know how to make a map more gay. Dana. Just highlight the brunch spots. This is basically referring to a grant related to an LGBT community building in Chechia. I've never heard of that place. Chechia?
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JPMorgan Chase Announcer
Yeah.
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Jesse Waters
Is it Chechnya, like in Russia?
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Dana Perino
No, it's Chechia without Chechiya.
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Jesse Waters
I don't know.
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Dana Perino
It's weird.
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Jesse Waters
You know what?
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Dana Perino
I don't think it exists. You know, it had a different. You know what? I may be dead naming it anyway. Slovakia. So basically, it allowed a student to travel and create an online interactive map of Czechia and Slovakia. Got 72 grand for it. So that's where the. I think the message here is, this is where the money is going. It's not for American interests.
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Jesse Waters
But remember Doge.
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Dana Perino
Yes.
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Jesse Waters
This is why USAID got shut down.
- [33:52]
Dana Perino
Yes.
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Jesse Waters
Because this is all part of the thing. Remember the gay musical or the gay opera?
- [33:57]
Dana Perino
Are they all gay?
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Jesse Waters
I don't Know specific. I'm not a very big opera fan, but remember that whole thing in Bogota?
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Dana Perino
Yeah.
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Jesse Waters
And you could just go down and. You're killing me today. Yeah.
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Dana Perino
No, I hear you. There's all of these examples of these things that we would never have known. Jesse, Jesse, Jesse, Jesse. You've been wanting to. I did great, yo. You did.
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Greg Gutfeld
I got a list. Here's ready.
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Dana Perino
Okay.
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Greg Gutfeld
The straight of Hormuz is the gay of Hormuz.
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Dana Perino
Thank you very much.
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Greg Gutfeld
Madagascar. Mada Ascar.
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Kayleigh McEnany
Oh, my goodness.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I think we should.
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Greg Gutfeld
France Prance. Here's a good one. Taiwan. Tie me up, Juan. Oh, my gosh. Cambodia.
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Dana Perino
No, stop.
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Greg Gutfeld
Cambodia.
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Jesse Waters
Yes.
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Greg Gutfeld
He wants better ones.
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Dana Perino
Yo, you don't.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I think you've got enough.
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Greg Gutfeld
Indonesia.
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Harold Ford Jr.
No.
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Greg Gutfeld
Onion. Here's a safer one.
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Harold Ford Jr.
No.
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Greg Gutfeld
New Zealand.
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Harold Ford Jr.
All right.
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Greg Gutfeld
New Squealand.
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Kayleigh McEnany
Okay.
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Greg Gutfeld
You know, there's countries that just sound gay, you know?
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Dana Perino
Okay. Did.
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Greg Gutfeld
Djibouti Transylvania.
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Dana Perino
There you go.
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Harold Ford Jr.
You want to talk about Muslims again?
- [35:15]
Dana Perino
Yes. All right.
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Jesse Waters
Harold.
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Dana Perino
Harold.
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Harold Ford Jr.
I'm not sure what making a mat gay means. I think the State Department has much higher priorities than this. We were talking in the last segment. I do know what is normal. And I meant to say it. Last segment. I said, again, I'm so glad Jay Clayton is in charge of this prosecution of these two guys that did this terrorist activity here in our city. But I'm just glad I was able to save you from going further with the countries you were going to go with.
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Dana Perino
I think I have more. No, no, no. Kayleigh, tell me everything you know about gay Maps.
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Kayleigh McEnany
I don't know a lot, but I had this whole thing prepared about, like, woke in our institutions in the Biden era. But I just have to know, did someone help you with that list or did you just, like, wake up this morning?
- [35:58]
Greg Gutfeld
Oh, I spent about 20 minutes on this.
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Kayleigh McEnany
Okay. Wow.
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Greg Gutfeld
Connie helped me.
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Kayleigh McEnany
I'll just cede my time to you.
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Dana Perino
I know.
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Heidi.
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Kayleigh McEnany
No, take my time.
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Jesse Waters
That's a good. That's a sweet one.
- [36:10]
Dana Perino
That's a cute one.
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Kayleigh McEnany
That's a cute one.
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Dana Perino
To end on mall rots. Oh, rats. Oh, rats are back.
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Kayleigh McEnany
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Harold Ford Jr.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Welcome back. Members of Gen Z are becoming mall rats. Hanging out at the food court and documenting everything on social media. Helping boost a budding recovery in stores. Many people thought that online Dana was going to knock out these malls, but these stores have figured out a way to come.
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Jesse Waters
This is great because events are back. People want to get back together. And I love it that the young people want to do this. And the mall could be a good, safe place to be. And some of the malls are doing things like creating cute little Instagram places. People want to be in person, and we need this for our society to thrive.
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Harold Ford Jr.
The girls like to go. Your girls like to go to the mall, Jesse.
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Greg Gutfeld
No, they don't hang out at the mall. But I used to. And we used to do it. Shoplift. Yep. And okay. And it was a game we used to play. We used to shoplift to see who could shoplift the most. And then once we tally it all up, we just return it. Oh, we would always. Greg.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Very, very biblical of you, Greg. What are your thoughts about it?
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Dana Perino
It's funny. They are treating the mall like they're documenting a lost tribe. Like, this is how they used to be. Did you know that they browsed novelties at Spencer's and they had a stack. They had a snack at Orange Julius. They used the bathroom at Walden Books or B. Dalton, depending on where you live. Maybe you bought a tank top at the Chess King or Merry Go Round or you picked up a Goth at Sam Goody or. You know what I really miss? The free samples of summer sausage from Hickory Farms.
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Kayleigh McEnany
Hickory Farms.
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Jesse Waters
That was so good.
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Dana Perino
Do you remember that? That's where I got my lunch. And then I went and used the bathroom at B. Dalton again.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Kaylee, these are references you may not recognize, but what do you think about this mall thing?
- [38:20]
Kayleigh McEnany
Well, as a millennial, I went to the mall all the time growing up.
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Jesse Waters
Up.
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Kayleigh McEnany
And we would go to Dillard's, and
- [38:24]
Jesse Waters
I would love Dillard's.
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Kayleigh McEnany
I love it. My brother and I would memorize the playlist and it'd be like, oh, no, mom, this track's coming on again. And then they used to have the pictures up of, like, the head of Dillard's. And my sister, she was like, seven. She'd go, I know that one and that one and that one. Because we were at the mall so much. And I love it. I love brick and mortar. I take my kids all the time to stores, and I love that Gen Z's make it happen.
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Harold Ford Jr.
We used to go to south for mall in Memphis and go to the arcade in the movies. One more thing.
- [38:50]
Dana Perino
That was a great story.
- [38:51]
Harold Ford Jr.
Thank you.
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Jesse Waters
What was in the Arcade.
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Kayleigh McEnany
It's time now for one more thing. Greg.
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Dana Perino
Thank you, Gaylee. Tonight, Kat Chimp, Andrew Gruel, Brianna Lehman and Tyrus. Hey, let's do this Sexy Bear news with Brit Hume. Roll the tape, please. Bring in the air. Check out this bear having a great time rolling around the grass. You know, Dana, it's a European brown bear. Love to play outside. This is at the Whipsnade Zoo in England, which is a continent, I believe, or a country. Brown bears are one of the largest species of bear. Much like Brett Bear always loved doing his show. Him and the lovely Molly Hemingway and my good friend Juan. They're all wonderful people, man.
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Kayleigh McEnany
Beautiful bear. I'm glad Britt made a return.
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Jesse Waters
Plenty of time today. Okay, well, it's time for this amazing fact. Okay, so during this weekend's inaugural summit of the Shield of America, Secretary of State Marco Rubio brought this very special gift for the new Bolivian president. Here's the story behind it. Rodrigo Paz. The family had a golden crucifix that once belonged to his father and former Bolivian president Jaime, fulfilling a nearly 36 year promise made by the late President George H.W. bush. So Jaime had gifted him the crucifix during a visit. It was 1990 and at the time, 41 promised to one day return the crucifix if Jaime's son became president. And look at Marco Rubio with that kind of Western hemisphere diplomacy, man, that's fulfilling the promise. Good for everybody.
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Greg Gutfeld
That's the Shield of America. That's what Kristi Noem's doing. Now we know.
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Kayleigh McEnany
There you go.
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Jesse Waters
Now you know.
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Greg Gutfeld
Now she knows. Let's go around the world. There it is. Yeah, pencils. For people that don't remember pencils, we're gonna go to southern England, very close to where Greg's sexy bear zoo was. These are people who carry their wives. It's wife carrying all right. It's one of England's weirdest annual sports events. The winners couple from Finland, the Finnish dudes can carry their wives. I don't know what position that is. Well, actually I do. It's a number. It's a number, but I won't say.
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Jesse Waters
Enough trouble.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Anyway.
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Greg Gutfeld
Tonight, Jesse Waters prime time, Iran's new Nepetola.
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Dana Perino
Nice.
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Greg Gutfeld
Kind of looks like my dad.
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Kayleigh McEnany
Harold
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Harold Ford Jr.
Oksandu Masters, an American competing in the Paralympics, won her 11th gold medal in a pair of cross country skiing. She's won again 11 gold medals across the winter and summer. This is her 21st gold medal. A very interesting story. She's Ukrainian by birth, but an American. You go, girl. Congratulations.
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Dana Perino
21st you say, you go, girl.
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Harold Ford Jr.
Yeah.
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Dana Perino
You know that's a banned phrase.
- [41:48]
Jesse Waters
We banned it.
- [41:49]
Dana Perino
I'm not allowed to say that. I'll take it back, Kaylee.
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Jesse Waters
You go, girl.
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Kayleigh McEnany
Yeah. I was just going to plug Fox Nation's new series. Everyone watch it. David King of Israel, of course. The story of David is an amazing one, so take the time to check it out as we watch that tonight. Yep. Check it out. All right, that's it for us.
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Harold Ford Jr.
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