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Greg Gutfeld
Rules and restrictions apply. Here's THE Five.
Shannon Bream
Hello, everyone. I'm Shana Bream along with Kellyanne Conway, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City, and this is the Five.
Greg Gutfeld
It feels very good, actually, to be back on a construction site.
Shannon Bream
President Trump rocking the hard hats while hitting up the Federal Reserve as he tries to keep the momentum going on his winning streak of smoking hot new trade deals. And the stock market in record territory. 47 did a little home inspection of the Fed's $2.5 billion renovation. The President not a fan of the price tag, squabbling with Powell over the sky. High cost as well as those stubborn interest rates that Powell refuses to lower.
Greg Gutfeld
So we're taking a look and it looks like it's about 3.1 billion. Went up a little bit or a lot. So the 2.7 is now 3.1. And I'm not aware of that. Yeah, it just, you're including the Martin renovation.
Jesse Waters
You just added, you just, you just added in a third building is what that is. That's a third building.
Greg Gutfeld
It's a building that's being built.
Jesse Waters
Nice to take these off every once.
Greg Gutfeld
In a while when we're not under too much danger.
Shannon Bream
As a real estate developer, what would.
Jesse Waters
You do with a project manager who.
Shannon Bream
Would be over budget?
Greg Gutfeld
Generally speaking?
Kellyanne Conway
What would I do?
Greg Gutfeld
I'd fire him. Are there things the chairman can say to you today that would make you.
Jesse Waters
Back off some of the earlier criticism?
Greg Gutfeld
Well, I'd love him to lower interest rates.
Shannon Bream
I hadn't heard that. Okay. As President Trump shakes up the Fed, he's also shaking up a major league Ivy league school, which 47 reach in a deal with Columbia University getting them to pay a penalty of $200 million to the US government for violating federal law. Now, in exchange, the university is going to get their paused federal grants back on track. All right, I love the hardhat visit. I would like to know what he charges for his appraisal services. But, Kellyanne, I got to tell you, this seemed classic Donald Trump. That visit on site there it was.
Kellyanne Conway
You know, in 2015, he gave a speech here in New York where he talked about the old Commodore Hotel and what he did with it near the, near Grand Central Station and how he bought it, nobody else wanted it, and how he revitalized it. And it just reminded Americans why they wanted an outsider, a builder, an outsider to the political system, but somebody who had been successful. They can see, literally see the fruits of his labor. At the time, I think there were 17 buildings just in the city with his name on it. But this is classic Trump in a couple of ways. The media has been covering the wrong story. Will he fire Powell? Will he not? Scott Bessant, the Treasury secretary, said Powell will leave in May when he's supposed to. I know for firsthand the worst thing Donald Trump can do to you is not fire you. The worst thing he could do to you is keep you on the job and make you irrelevant. And that's what I think is going on here. Actually, Jay Powell just had his Michael Dukakis moment, keeping that hard hat on just a little too long. But seriously speaking, why is this important? Because it's our money. This isn't Donald Trump or anybody, any other builder, Shannon, building a hotel, building a condo, building that then you can choose as an individual to buy or to, or to have a room in the hotel or not. This is our money. And this is a place that lost $100 billion already. So the idea that you would have, as President Trump has said the Taj Mahal in the mall is odious to a lot of Americans who are doing what they can to dig out of the four year inflation we had under Biden.
Shannon Bream
Yeah, Jesse. Especially for people who say this is the guy who's supposed to be managing the nation's pocketbook. And yet these buildings are way over where they were supposed to be.
Jesse Waters
It's like when your wife goes shopping and you come home unexpectedly and you see piles and piles of bags in the bedroom. Oh, honey, what do we have here? You're going to return it, right? It's all getting returned. Right. He owned Powell today. And you're right. Now this guy is just going to dangle out for the rest of the months that he has to serve there. He's doing the same thing with the colleges. So we give colleges billions of dollars every year. For the first time, he grabs a wad of cash in front of the country and said, before I give you this money. There's a few things I'd like to do. Are you listening? All right. I want you to be nicer to Jews, and I want you to drop dei and I want you to get the men out of the women's locker rooms. Can you do that for me? Can you do that for me? And so all of a sudden, all of the lawyers got real tough for the colleges and said, no, we're going to fight. And then they just billed for about two months. Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill, Bill got paid. And then they settled. And they settled for what? I think we give Colombia $1.3 billion a year. They have to have that money. And he's doing it with other countries, too. We're paying them, they're making money here. He shuts the door with the tariffs just a little bit and said, hey, by the way, we'd like to sell you about $8 billion of rice. They love rice in Japan. We'd like to get trucks and cars in Japan. Can you do that for us? Yeah, you can. And you're going to get hit with a 10, 15% tariffs, and you're going to buy 100 Boeing jets. Can you do that? Thank you. And he's doing that with every country. It's amazing what you can do when you delay payment. And I've started to do that with Jesse Jr. He gets a $5 allowance weekly, and he's got chores. So yesterday I said, and I dangled it, because once they see it, they. They get really motivated. I say, you, as a part of your chores now, you are going to polish the silver. And he said, I don't know how to polish silver. I said, well, you're going to learn. And what do you know? The guy has the silver polish the rag, and he's working the candelabra over in the dining room. That's how you get things done.
Shannon Bream
Jessica. He's living a different life than we are.
Jessica Tarlov
Jesse. Yeah, I mean, polishing the candelabra's marriage is from 1950. And the toddler story is completely made up.
Shannon Bream
The candelabra. But, Jessica, I want to ask you, which of the things on President Trump's victory list would you like to tackle first? Because we do have the nets on the tariffs. We do the great numbers on the border. Not only that they're down, but also the poll numbers show that people are very happy with him about border security. He's got the head of NATO calling him daddy and praising him for getting the spending up with all of those nations. You Just we want you to pick.
Jessica Tarlov
It'll be zaddy soon, I'm sure. On the trade front with the Japan deal, the headline I was paying attention to was that the United Auto Workers and the Big Three opposed the Japan trade deal. And I went there and I collected some recent headlines just to give a tasting of what the golden age actually means. On the ground, General motors profit shrank 35% last quarter. President Trump's tariffs are costing Jeep makers Stellantis hundreds of millions of dollars. The cost of beef is at its highest level since the 1980s. And from today, independents drive Trump's approval to 37%, a second term low. So the only president to beat him is himself. From the first term. Border security. Sure, he still has a positive approval rating on that, but not on immigration as a whole, because lo and behold, people don't want grandmas and people who've been here for decades rounded up. They don't want people sent to seekot. He's lost 40 points with Gen Z. So there goes that narrative that suddenly young people are conservatives. Independents, approval down to 27%. But the cherry on top, I think, is that 70% say that Trump hasn't done enough to lower prices. And that is the reason that he won this election. It was an election about the economy where people had said inflation is too high. I go to the grocery store and I see what's going on. And I was obviously on this panel throughout the election and you guys said to me repeatedly, stop telling people what their real life looks like. Stop telling people what their real life looks like applies. Right now they are saying that Donald Trump is too focused on his hard hat mission or his crypto, whatever, and get the prices down.
Shannon Bream
Well, I will say that the polling also shows people do think things are moving in the right direction. At least the numbers in our Fox News polling shows that their personal situation they perceive as being improving. But you got a laundry list.
Greg Gutfeld
He's right. He hasn't done enough to lower prices. Compared to whom this is. When I hear about Trump's polls, it reminds me of an old saying when I'm being chased by a hungry panelist from the View, I don't have to outrun her, I just have to outrun you. So when they bring up these polls, they're meaningless without a comparison. So who are they comparing it to? Not to Trump, but to the alternative. Every poll says the same thing. If the election were held today, he would still clobber the Democrats in some ways even more. It is true. And by the way, you can keep saying he's rounding up grandma, but those have been hoaxes. And. And every time you bring up that thing, it implodes. And then we have to clean up the mess. It's easy to avoid a drop in polls, Jessica. Just don't do the stuff that upsets the media. Trump won't do that. Trump leans right into the things that he promised. So people can be critical, but at the same time, they go, no, I voted for him. You can call this a hot streak, but that requires luck. This isn't luck. He set this stuff up in advance. You know, he's posting a win every day. The same way a gardener plants 100 flowers so they bloom one after the other. And the Democrats are like, going, how did this happen? How did this. Oh, wait, he has a new thing. He has a new thing. That's what's called preparation. The Democrats don't understand that. Democrats think success is taking your money and throwing it there and then patting themselves on the back. He's actually making stuff happen. You know what's amazing about all this stuff? The stuff we miss. Olympics will not allow trans athletes to participate. Do you think that they would have had the stones to do that if Kamala Harris was president? No. We have trans tax cuts right now. Now because of Trump, we have three prominent medical centers in California who are no longer doing trans surgeries on kids. And why? Because Trump stood up and he shared the risk, and he spoke truth to power to the deranged activists that had intimidated the Democrats for so long. Lastly today, an executive order to remove vagrants, homeless, and drug addicts from the streets of America and to place the mentally ill and the criminally deranged into treatment centers. The reason why I bring this up, because it's amazing for people who live in the city, there are going to be a lot of liberals who are going to say how terrible Trump is, but when they're on the subway, they're going to be thanking God for him, just the way they do when they talk about illegal immigration. And then they drive home and they see that it's much cleaner and much better. They're going to pretend that he's so intolerant, how mean this is. But you're not going to stop this, because you need this. You need this. These are just. And look at AI yesterday.
Jessica Tarlov
AI.
Greg Gutfeld
He understands we have to be there first. If we're not, it's over. You know who. Who was the AIs are before him? Kamala Harris. She didn't even know what I stood for.
Kellyanne Conway
She is AI.
Jesse Waters
Call him Daddy. Jessica. I'm gonna call him Daddy.
Shannon Bream
I'm gonna miss the guy out.
Greg Gutfeld
I didn't even talk about Columbia. No.
Jesse Waters
Call Greg Daddy.
Jessica Tarlov
No. Thank you.
Greg Gutfeld
I'm so tired of that.
Shannon Bream
She's gonna take a pass on that. We'll talk about it during the commercial. Ahead, new questions over whether the media will be held accountable for pushing Russia gates in light of DNI Tulsi Gabbard's stunning new claims.
Greg Gutfeld
When you have your own land, it.
Shannon Bream
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Kellyanne Conway
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Greg Gutfeld
I have great respect for Tulsi and the documents they found on President Obama. Frankly, it was an Obama thing, but it was the people that worked under him also working with him. And no, it's a very, very serious thing.
Jesse Waters
President Trump giving props to DNI director Tulsi Gabbard for exposing the Russia hoax, something the liberal media had no problem pushing for years.
Shannon Bream
The Russians definitively hack the election.
Jesse Waters
Russia hacking the election to elect Trump.
Greg Gutfeld
But is the end of our democracy.
Jesse Waters
Everyone votes were definitely affected. Russia hacked the election to tilt it to Mr. Trump. The president does not want to come to terms with the fact that the Russians hacked the election. Russia hacked the election.
Kellyanne Conway
Russia did hack the election.
Jesse Waters
Russia hacked the election. The FBI, the CIA, the nsa, the former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper. I mean, they've all said this. So to believe that that's wrong, you have to believe they're all involved in a an elaborate conspiracy to get Donald Trump. But now that Gabbard has dropped bombshell receipts, the media is scrambling not to apologize, but to smear the messenger. After years of peddling salacious Russian intellist gospel, suddenly they found their journalistic conscience.
Kellyanne Conway
They are quibbling angels dancing on the head of a pin.
Jesse Waters
When we have volumes of reporting, you're.
Kellyanne Conway
Always going to find one report that's different.
Jesse Waters
Okay, whatever this was in no way verified.
Greg Gutfeld
We have no idea.
Jesse Waters
I mean, this is hardly information that we should even be repeating and you.
Greg Gutfeld
Can'T even see it on the TV screen. But if you can see my right hand down here, Tulsi Gabbard, you are the winner of, of of actually meeting.
Jesse Waters
The lowest of low expectations that were laid out for you. Jessica Tarlov, did you read the report that Tulsi dropped?
Jessica Tarlov
I read sections of it. Did not read all 200 pages.
Jesse Waters
Well, it wasn't 200 pages, it was 44. That's why I read them because it wasn't 200 pages. Did you know that the assessment said that Putin wanted Trump to win? Putin tried to help Trump win. Putin had blackmail on Trump and that Putin tried colluding with the Trump campaign? All of those things were erroneous and.
Jessica Tarlov
They true, the intelligence wanted Trump to win.
Jesse Waters
No.
Jessica Tarlov
Did you read the report?
Jesse Waters
Okay, so if you had read the report, you would have known Jesse Putin had no preference who won.
Jessica Tarlov
That's not true.
Jesse Waters
You obviously didn't read the report.
Jessica Tarlov
It has. That actually has nothing to do with this.
Kellyanne Conway
Yes, it does.
Jesse Waters
Well, that's one of the main points in the report.
Jessica Tarlov
The report is erroneous.
Jesse Waters
Why?
Jessica Tarlov
Well, you didn't read because you guys are literally.
Kellyanne Conway
I'm sick of it. We spent years, six figures worth of.
Jessica Tarlov
Your legal bills for low level staff that the intel that our intel community.
Kellyanne Conway
And the rest of the world Donald Trump was ever president, including now he's saying patriots to Ukraine and calling.
Jessica Tarlov
Yeah, I think that Putin really loved it when he stood up there next to him in Helsinki and said, oh, he told me he didn't want to interfere in the election.
Kellyanne Conway
Putin wanted to win the election.
Jessica Tarlov
You just brought it up. You obviously do care.
Kellyanne Conway
No, no, no. It went on. Excuse me. The media needs to own up to be part of this lie for years. Excuse me, 2,000 minutes. That is two days out of a human being's life just in coverage of this thing called Russian national.
Jessica Tarlov
Why are there 13 Russian nationals that were charged with interfering with the election if it wasn't true? Look at that Mueller report. Look at it. No, it wasn't.
Jesse Waters
That was interference, Jessica. There was and that's what Obama said, there was interference. But you guys said for two years that there was collusion, there was blackmail and that Trump preferred and tried to help Trump.
Jessica Tarlov
And who said there was collusion, which is a made up term anyway.
Kellyanne Conway
I'm not going to be searched as the campaign manager. I wasn't talking to people.
Jessica Tarlov
You were having a conversation about yourself.
Kellyanne Conway
No, no, no, I wasn't talking to people in Moscow. I was talking to people in Macomb County, Michigan and Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. That's how he won. He won because Hillary was a flawed candidate. And every time you guys have a shitty candidate, you do all these shenanigans to. To stop Trump. I'm sick of it.
Jesse Waters
All right, let's get everybody else involved in the discussion. Shannon Bream, how do you think this is playing?
Shannon Bream
It feels very Hunter Biden laptop vibes. It's the same thing to me because regardless of what you think about what's in this, the fact that you're told you can't even ask questions because this is not a real story, you shouldn't even be repeating it. You shouldn't ask a question. If we're journalists, we should ask questions. Ok, let's go through the report. You've read the report. Let's do that. It almost is like they haven't learned their lesson because what happened with the Hunter Biden stuff turned out. Most of that stuff was true. We were told at the time, if you ask questions about it or promote the story or report on it at all, you're doing Russia's work. That's what we're being told this time, too. If you look into this report, if you ask questions about it, you're doing the work for Russia. So the vibe is exactly the same.
Jesse Waters
Greg, how's the vibe?
Greg Gutfeld
Vibe is great. I think the media unloaded 1,000 unanswered punches during Russiagate to a lot of people, ruined a lot of lives. So I think they've lost the right to deny a counterpunch. And it really. It doesn't matter what you found or claim to have found. You're conflating different reports. It's what you pushed and you smeared and you destroyed people with. That's what we're talking about. Let's not forget they didn't find anything. So Obama sent them back to find something else else. And what they found was trivial, but it existed. Facebook ads. Facebook ads. $100,000. That's not what the press ran with. They said that Putin was in bed with Trump and that if anybody was supporting Trump, they were basically in bed with Russia, that you were anti American. The media is now operating like a junkie. They'll spend years making your life hell and then expect you to forgive and forget now that they've run out of drugs. Oh, look, that's in the past. Let's just move on. We don't owe you anything for your pain and suffering. I'm sorry. We're coming for scalps on this one. Look, the only people that tell you it's time to move on are criminals. I'm sure that that fiend in Idaho wishes those families would just move on. But you know what? If the media thinks they're innocent, they should welcome our attempt to reach the same conclusion. But we won't.
Jesse Waters
Kellyanne, final point.
Kellyanne Conway
The point is this. Even ABC News hired a whole new group of investigative units. And the guy who was in charge of that lawsuit job because he's a white guy in his 50s at ABC, but they. Everybody went crazy on this story. The Steele dossier, according to Director Gabbard, is the most credible source of the four that they relied upon. Now imagine that. The Steele dossier. Dossier, in this, in this way, a fancy French word for a load of bull. That was the most credible source. That guy has been discredited again and again. He's on the payroll of Hillary Clinton's campaign. He's on the payroll of the dnc. There was nothing there. I think Clapper lied to Congress. I think that Comey and Clapper Brennan are all in trouble. Maybe Obama has immunity, whoop de doo. But that meeting that I wrote about in my book, we unfurled this in 2019. It's in the book from 2022. That meeting on January 5th, the day before they came to Trump Tower and did a national security briefing for President Trump. That meeting is when the fix was in with Rice, Biden, Obama, Clapper, Comey, Brennan. I was having lunch with Valerie Jarrett, the Navy mess, because she said, we want to make sure that you all have a great welcome to the new White House. The next day, they're all here. They do the national security briefing at Trump Tower. And then as they're getting up to leave, Jim Comey unfurls his seven foot frame and says to President Trump, we're not really sure yet, but there's this thing going on, golden showers, Russia, collusion. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it. That's not a national security briefing. That's how. How are the grandkids? Is it going to snow tomorrow? That's not a national security briefing like the one Obama got. Listen, long before there was destroy Trump, imprison Trump, there was get Trump. And before that there was stop Trump. And they never thought that Hillary Clinton was gonna lose to Donald Trump. They did everything they could for 10 weeks to stop him from taking that oath of office. And we have a right as taxpayers who paid for the Mueller investigation, paid for all this nonsense, to know what really happened. This is the greatest subversion of democracy. Had they got. Had they gotten their way.
Jessica Tarlov
But you already paid for the Durham investigation. Then he came out and told you there was nothing There and everyone was angry at him.
Jesse Waters
We didn't have access.
Jessica Tarlov
That's not true.
Jesse Waters
We didn't have access to.
Jessica Tarlov
Oh, my God, these documents, by the way.
Jesse Waters
CIA vault.
Jessica Tarlov
I'm sure you wouldn't say that Andy McCarthy is some liberal media goon who wants to cover for them. Saying this has always been a foolish stance.
Kellyanne Conway
Excuse me. You think the Epstein is more relevant than this? No, I think the Epstein files is more relevant than what?
Jessica Tarlov
I think that it is not going well right now for President Trump and.
Kellyanne Conway
They are coming up great. He just had Colombia admit to being anti Semitic and fork over a quarter of a billion dollars.
Jessica Tarlov
Let's see how it pans out with Harvard and someone who actually has a spine to say, stand up to what he's trying to do to academic freedom in this country.
Jesse Waters
Okay. They can still hate white people at Harvard. That's.
Greg Gutfeld
That's not so. It's okay. What they did to the Jews on campus.
Jessica Tarlov
I have literally never said that.
Greg Gutfeld
You just said to somebody to stand up on the campus. You're assuming that Columbia backed down because of the money they paid to these Jewish students.
Jessica Tarlov
Columbia 100% capitulated to Donald Trump and they will regret it.
Jesse Waters
Are you speaking for Columbia?
Jessica Tarlov
I don't know.
Jesse Waters
I'm speaking for myself as someone who's speaking to you. This is the report. Maybe you could read it.
Jessica Tarlov
Yeah.
Jesse Waters
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Shannon Bream
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Jesse Waters
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Greg Gutfeld
I'll stand by you.
Kellyanne Conway
Joe has hit the jackpot. Former President Biden has reportedly sold his memoir for a whopping $10 million advance. That pales in comparison to what the other fat Dems pulled in for their book deals. The Obamas reportedly scored $65 million jackpot in 2017 and Bill Clinton raked in 15 years ago. Meanwhile, Biden's wingman, former chief of staff Ron Klain, facing off with Republicans on the House oversight committee in the Autoplan investigation, a source told Fox News that Klain said he had no knowledge of Biden taking Ambien, but did admit the president's memory had gotten worse. Here's James comer.
Greg Gutfeld
We're about 50, 50 with the Biden.
Jesse Waters
Inner circle answering questions. And I certainly appreciate the ones that are coming in and answering questions. So far, Ron Klain has done that.
Shannon Bream
If the president is taking naps during.
Greg Gutfeld
The day, who's the president?
Jesse Waters
Those I can assure you those questions are being asked.
Greg Gutfeld
He's not trying to avoid answering the questions. He's answering the questions carefully. It's going he's saying the things that I kind of expected him to say. When I say credible, I think I think he is, he is telling what he knows accurately.
Kellyanne Conway
Shannon how does someone whose own chief of staff says he had a poor memory write a memoir?
Shannon Bream
Well, that is a great question because remember what happened when he was being interviewed over those documents? And the Robert her assessment was essentially like he can't remember stuff like when his son passed away and really big important things. Also, we're told that there's nothing scandalous with the Biden administration. There's nothing that we don't know. There's nothing that we need to know. Well, people want scoop in a book. If we're told like there's nothing there, there's no there there. I don't know what will be interesting in the book if you can recall. But keep in mind, too, Ron Klain, while ultimately telling us he was up to the task and he could be the president, he also was quoted as saying things like the president was often exhausted and out of it. He was disengaged that he decided to go sit by the pool during the debate prep. So I'll be interested to see what else this committee gets from him. And keep in mind, Anita Dunn, Jeffrey Zients, kjp, they're all still supposed to come before this committee. And their stories are probably gonna be a lot more interesting than anything we would get in the President Biden memoir.
Kellyanne Conway
Jesse, I don't know if the chapters will be called the lowest approval rating since Jimmy Carter, Obama's lap dog, Hunter's laptop, Hunter's lap dance. I mean, what are we going to learn in this book that we don't already know? And is this a good idea for Democrats who want to move on from the Bidens?
Jesse Waters
He might not even make it to the book tour. You got to factor that in. He's got cancer, he's in his 80s. Who knows and what kind of book tour is it? Is it a basement book tour where he goes on the View and then goes home? Or does he go on Jake Tapper's show? Does he go on Rogan, does he go on Hannity? You want to create a little spice on the book tour? I would go on Charlemagne. Show the guy who said you ain't black. Those are the kind of confrontations that you want. Because if you're just going to get a regular old book tour where he says nothing because he remembers nothing, no one's gonna buy it. And do Democrats wanna read it? Republicans won't read it. We'll just take the excerpts on Fox and show it to you and then laugh at them. There's no appetite because everybody that knew something that was there already spilled their guts. So this guy's not gonna come out and say anything that we don't know. And no wonder he's getting paid less. He is a failed president, Jessica. A failed president.
Kellyanne Conway
Jess, I do wanna hear from you. What would you like to hear from the book in terms of moving the Democratic Party forward at a time when we just heard Hunter for three hours for free and needed to bleep most of what he said?
Jessica Tarlov
We did some well timed F bombs in there and he's the one who got us in this Ambien trouble anyway.
Kellyanne Conway
But is it true? I think he knows his father well.
Jessica Tarlov
I certainly had nothing to do with the debate prep or dosing the president to recover from his overseas travel. I think that this is too soon. And I understand that he's older and so they're thinking about that. But you know, when Bill Clinton left the presidency, he had the highest approval rating of his entire term. Barack Obama, universally beloved, leaving office. This is very different. I mean, it's a Democratic Party that's in turmoil. A lot of people are looking back and saying we should have done things differently. We should have had an open primary or, you know, so I think if he waited a little while, he would get more. But I'm. Call me old fashioned. I still think $10 million is a lot of money.
Kellyanne Conway
I think, yes. You don't need to be a pollster, have a calculator to know that. It's a lot of money, Greg, for nothing. Money for nothing. And chicks for his chicks seem free. Look, I don't know. Big type, lots of pictures, paint by numbers. But can a ghost have a ghostwriter? Who do you think will write this book?
Greg Gutfeld
That's a good question. I'm kind of with Jesse. I think there's only one person who's going to be surprised by the information in it. It's Joe Biden. He'll be like, whoa, this guy sounds interesting. And it's going to be really hard to figure out where you where. What category you put it in. Is it fiction, horror, comedy, fantasy, estate planning? Because that's what it's really about. Young adults. And it's true, he might end up being his own ghostwriter. You know, I think that the best way they can do this, they don't even need a ghostwriter. You just go to ChatGPT and you have one prompt. Write 80,000 words on Joe Biden's life based on what's out there, because that's what they're gonna do. They'll get it back in about 10 minutes. If I were the editor, I would do it the way O.J. did it. You know, when O.J. wrote if I did it, he should write it. The title should be if I Wasn't. And then he could actually do a Romanokoff, I don't know what the word is, whatever. On how little he actually did. Like how he was used, how he was abused, how he was used as a Trojan horse to get elected and then cast aside like an empty husk for the radical elements. He was the worst president in history because he wasn't president at all. I would read that book.
Kellyanne Conway
I don't know who's going to read it. Not me, but Shannon, just quickly, if you could ask him one question, interview, what would it be? Hmm?
Shannon Bream
What would I ask him?
Greg Gutfeld
Could you get your hand off my thigh?
Shannon Bream
That would be question number one. Stop sniffing my hair.
Kellyanne Conway
And it's beautiful hair.
Shannon Bream
You know what? I would want to probe his decision to run for a second term. I think I have a lot of questions about who thought that was a good idea.
Kellyanne Conway
I'm curious to see if he goes after Kamala and Obama, both of whom he thinks did him wrong.
Shannon Bream
Or Nancy Pelosi.
Kellyanne Conway
I might just read that.
Shannon Bream
Yeah. Nancy Pelosi.
Kellyanne Conway
Nancy Pelosi.
Jessica Tarlov
Read the excerpts. It's better than the whole report.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
Kellyanne Conway
Coming up, a Maha victory. President Trump is making Coca Cola taste great again.
Shannon Bream
The Lumify effect.
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47 is giving soda a Maha in infused update. Coca Cola says it will launch a new product made with cane sugar this fall after the president gave him a sweet talking to about dropping high fructose corn syrup. Trump says, quote, you'll see, it's just better. And here's Coke CEO.
Jesse Waters
It's one of those ideas that's been bouncing around for a time, but it's not really taken shape and form and actually said, you know what, maybe the idea is one of those ideas whose time has come. There's a number of drinks where it's already got cane suge. So we've, we've been, we've been offering the consumers more choice. So we think if it works for the consumer, it'll work for everyone.
Greg Gutfeld
Not to be outdone, Pepsi's rolling out a prebiotic version of its signature flavor. And let's just say Jesse's bowels are bracing for impact. So, Kellyanne, when I think of maha and kind of an aspirational aims for, I don't think of, hey, we just got sugar and soft drinks. It doesn't really, maybe I'm missing it, but I thought we had like, higher aspirations.
Kellyanne Conway
I hope they do because four years is a short time to recalibrate all this and it's been tried before. Look, I do, I do applaud many of the goals. A lot of young parents of young children particularly are part of this movement. They're trying to figure out how to feed their kids more nourishing food. But you know what, we all eat what we eat and drink what we drink taste mostly. So people are going to have to feel that the taste is there for this and other things. I personally think there's no harm in eating a green M and M Froot Loops. I mean, I figured as a kid, I'm old, but I figured as a kid when it said F R O o T as fruit loops that there was no fruit in it. I knew that going in and I put the whole thing in the Tupperware bowl, put a half a gallon of milk and I was off to the races. Cartoon Saturday, Michelle Obama basically did jumping, told us to do jumping jacks, planted a garden and the kids lunch program was a disaster. Media showed apples all being thrown in the trash. We had to teach people. But I'm for consumer choice also. I think if you give us choices, then we'll make Good choices. The other thing is Europe is used to tasting things a certain way. And so if you try to impose that on us, I'm going to be very curious to see what happens. But I like the higher goal stuff going on. I don't have a problem with this, but. And the other thing is, I don't want to hear the label. We've been labeling food. Fat content, calories, nobody cares. We got batter as a country. I don't want to know the origin of my fish. I don't want to have a relationship with my steak. I just want to eat it.
Greg Gutfeld
You know, Jesse, they're going to remove the dyes from snack foods like potato chips. And it makes me wonder, what did they look like before? Like, I always thought a potato chip was just a potato chip. What could it have looked like?
Jesse Waters
Maybe less yellow.
Greg Gutfeld
I love the green chip. I always watch it.
Jesse Waters
Save the green chip for me. Yeah. You know the chips with lots of different colors.
Greg Gutfeld
Yes.
Jesse Waters
Are those natural colors?
Greg Gutfeld
No, they're not.
Jesse Waters
They're not. They're made by.
Shannon Bream
They're made from people like Doritos. That's not found in nature.
Greg Gutfeld
No, it's not.
Jesse Waters
No, it's definitely not. The. This is more about getting natural ingredients into food because there's really no difference between high fructose corn syrup and sugar. It's about a 5% difference, but at least it's real ingredient because the high fructose corn syrup has tons of chemicals and additives. All right, so you're still drinking Coke. Okay. It's not great for you, and sugar is not great for you. The big move they're gonna do is all of these companies, Greg, self certify everything they add to the food. It's like the honor system. So they can just put whatever they want, chemicals, additives, stuff you have no idea how to pronounce in it. And the FDA says, okay, we trust you.
Greg Gutfeld
I heard that.
Jesse Waters
That's what they're trying to close that loophole on.
Greg Gutfeld
I was. I stopped listening.
Jesse Waters
Well, you should, because you need to be healthier. Worried about.
Greg Gutfeld
I am worried about me. You know, Jessica, Hunter Biden's upset. He said, lay off my Coke.
Jessica Tarlov
I didn't catch that part of the interview. But when he was explaining the differences between crack and Coke, I think it was. That was interesting.
Greg Gutfeld
It was a little bit.
Jessica Tarlov
You know, it's a good for the Coke brand. They're just going to get to sell more Mexican Coke, and that's essentially what happened there. I think that you should try to teach people Better eating habits. Exercise is the key to all of this. A lot of nutritionists have said this is the only way to a healthier society. But it does feel a little bit like small potatoes compared to what they were going after. But honestly, you're not going to. People are not going to take well, if you suddenly start legislating to them what it is they can have and how much they can have of it. Remember the Bloomberg and the sodas.
Greg Gutfeld
Go ahead.
Shannon Bream
I think about too, like Kelly and you mentioned European food is a different experience, different taste. But Americans, we like what we like. It's kind of like the metric system. And we were like, no, thank you. And we don't do metric system here. So I don't know what a kilometer is versus a mile or anything else they are, but we're okay.
Greg Gutfeld
And it's soda in general. It's soda. It's carbs.
Shannon Bream
I did not have on the Maha scorecard that we would be making sodas more delicious.
Greg Gutfeld
Yeah.
Shannon Bream
And by the way, this one is always going to be better. I grew up in a house where our fancy cereal for breakfast was total. That was what I got to eat. And my mom, who is an excellent baker, was making sourdough bread and everything from scratch decades ago. So maybe Maha would want to call my mom. She's got some suggestions.
Greg Gutfeld
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Shannon Bream
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Greg Gutfeld
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Jessica Tarlov
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Jesse Waters
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Jessica Tarlov
We are still fighting about Tulsi Gabbard's report. Welcome back. Did the Cleveland Browns just fake a viral splash during their big helmet reveal? A guy fell into Lake Erie while taking photographs. It looked like an accident until fans noticed that the photographer was influencer Ross Smith. And wouldn't you know it, he posted the whole thing with the caption dude, I wiped out on live TV while revealing the Browns new helmet. Oh, and he tagged dudewipes a major brown sponsor. Greg is finally excited about a topic.
Greg Gutfeld
This is the greatest product tie in in history. Dude wipes. I won't get into what they're used for, but we can understand it's for the toilet sponsoring the Cleveland Browns, I don't think you can get a bet. Whoever came up with this, you're brilliant. I came up with a list of what's next. Preparation H for the Astros, Midol for the Red Wings, Imodium for the Mud Hens, Pampers for the Nuggets, Beano for the Thunder, and KY for the Packers. Thank you.
Jessica Tarlov
Wow, Jesse.
Jesse Waters
I mean, he prepared so well for this segment.
Jessica Tarlov
Always Rivera's for that segment.
Jesse Waters
What do you do all day besides work? God, even gay sex jokes.
Greg Gutfeld
I don't know. When did I do that?
Jesse Waters
KY for the Packers?
Greg Gutfeld
No, it's the Green Bay Packers.
Shannon Bream
What? I'm scared. I'm scared.
Jesse Waters
I'm thinking. Am I sick? No.
Jessica Tarlov
I thought it was that, too.
Jesse Waters
Okay.
Jessica Tarlov
Thank you.
Jesse Waters
I never know.
Kellyanne Conway
I feel like they spend their money on worried about their team and their.
Shannon Bream
Family they have now is to call hr. I feel like that's the only thing.
Kellyanne Conway
That can happen on this segment.
Jessica Tarlov
They've already emailed all of us.
Greg Gutfeld
I did put work in that. I looked up sports team games, because.
Jesse Waters
You don't even know.
Greg Gutfeld
And then I tied Mud Hens. Yeah, the Mud Hens. That's a minor league baseball team.
Jessica Tarlov
Yes.
Greg Gutfeld
Then I got a hockey team, the Red Wings Thunder, which I think is basketball.
Kellyanne Conway
Well, if it was staged, mission accomplished. We're all talking about it.
Shannon Bream
Exactly.
Jessica Tarlov
One more thing.
Jesse Waters
You're in the finals.
Jessica Tarlov
Greg is up next.
Greg Gutfeld
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Shannon Bream
Still arguing, but it's time for one more thing. Jesse, what you got?
Jesse Waters
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Shannon Bream
I love it. Greg, we have not recovered from your last bit of festivities.
Greg Gutfeld
I'm sorry. But tonight we got a great show there's more Guy Benson. Michael Loftus, Joe Germanotta Kennedy. That's tonight at 10pm let's do this. Greg's Itchy Bear news. Oh, so feels so good when you can finally reach that scratch. That's what Kiona did. Check him out, huh? Or it's a girl. I don't know. Look at him. This is the San Francisco Zoo. Oh, that feels so good. You know what I mean? Right in there. Right in there. Right there. Right there. You know that Keona was rescued in Montana after being orphaned as a cub. Did you know that they shimmy and scratch against the trees? Shannon. For scent marking, to remove loose hair, or just to simply scratch an itch. But you're evil. You don't care.
Shannon Bream
I do care about animals. But that one scares me a little bit. Jessica.
Jessica Tarlov
Okay. Washington Nationals center fielder Jacob Young defied gravity and what may very well be the catch of the year. The 25 year old jumped off his left foot and and planted his right foot into the wall, boosting him even higher to rob the Cincinnati Reds of a two run homer. But they still lost love.
Shannon Bream
You nuts?
Jesse Waters
Do you have any sex jokes about that team? Greg? The Nationals.
Shannon Bream
Let's not go there. Let's not go there. Okay, Kelly. And this actually for you as a Jersey girl, we've got this lady, I love this. That she filmed herself eating a sandwich. She killed herself on the beach. She filmed herself. But she was. But she said the seagulls out here are so crazy. She's filming herself and they come and steal her sandwich. But you know what? I love a woman who will set up a camera on herself in her swimsuit. She looks great. I love the confidence. And she caught the seagull in the act, killing it.
Kellyanne Conway
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Shannon Bream
He's adorable.
Kellyanne Conway
I know blacks can't do that.
Shannon Bream
No, they can't. But they're very fluffy. Okay.
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Podcast Summary: The Five – "Fed Up With The Fed"
Release Date: July 24, 2025
Host/Author: FOX News Podcasts
Overview
In the episode titled "Fed Up With The Fed," the panelists of The Five delve into pressing financial and political issues, scrutinizing the Federal Reserve's activities, President Trump's confrontations with major institutions, and emerging claims regarding election interference. The discussion is vibrant, featuring sharp debates, insightful analyses, and noteworthy commentary from each member of the panel: Shannon Bream, Kellyanne Conway, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters, and Greg Gutfeld.
The episode kicks off with a critical examination of President Trump's recent actions targeting the Federal Reserve. The President visited the Federal Reserve's construction site, highlighting his dissatisfaction with the institution's handling of interest rates and budget expenditures.
Shannon Bream (00:55): "President Trump rocking the hard hats while hitting up the Federal Reserve as he tries to keep the momentum going on his winning streak of smoking hot new trade deals."
Greg Gutfeld (01:22): "So we're taking a look and it looks like it's about 3.1 billion. Went up a little bit or a lot. So the 2.7 is now 3.1. And I'm not aware of that."
The panel discusses the substantial increase in the Federal Reserve’s renovation budget from $2.7 billion to $3.1 billion, with Jesse Waters pointing out the inclusion of a third building in the project.
Greg Gutfeld questions the necessity and transparency of the budget increase, emphasizing the need for accountability.
Shannon Bream brings attention to President Trump's dealings with Columbia University, where the institution agreed to pay a $200 million penalty to regain federal grants.
Kellyanne Conway underscores the strategic nature of Trump's actions, drawing parallels to his previous business endeavors.
The discussion highlights Trump’s approach to exerting pressure on institutions to comply with his conditions, reflecting his negotiation tactics from his business background.
The panel delves into Trump’s broader economic policies, particularly his stance on interest rates and inflation.
Shannon Bream points out the dissonance between Trump’s role in managing the nation's economy and the perceived overspending by the Federal Reserve.
Jesse Waters uses an analogy to illustrate the mismanagement of funds:
The panel critiques the Federal Reserve's efficiency and Trump's efforts to hold the institution accountable, emphasizing the impact on taxpayers.
A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to discussing Tulsi Gabbard’s allegations concerning Russian interference in the 2020 U.S. Presidential Election.
The panel debates the credibility of Gabbard’s claims, with contrasting viewpoints emerging.
Jessica Tarlov (14:09): "I read sections of it. Did not read all 200 pages."
Kellyanne Conway (15:20): "They are quibbling angels dancing on the head of a pin."
Greg Gutfeld questions the integrity of the media's past coverage on Russiagate and its current response to Gabbard’s report.
The conversation revisits previous investigations into Trump’s campaign, criticizing the media’s handling and the repeated allegations of collusion and interference.
The panel expresses skepticism towards the established narratives, advocating for a re-examination of the facts presented by Gabbard.
Shannon Bream draws parallels between the current scrutiny and past incidents like the Hunter Biden laptop story, emphasizing the media’s selective reporting.
Greg Gutfeld criticizes the media’s long-term portrayal of Trump, suggesting a bias that undermines his achievements.
The discussion underscores the enduring impact of past media narratives on current political discourse, advocating for fairness and balance in reporting.
Shannon Bream shifts the focus to President Joe Biden, discussing his recent $10 million book deal amidst criticisms of his administration.
Jesse Waters critiques Biden’s presidency, doubting the substance and impact of his forthcoming memoir.
Greg Gutfeld humorously contemplates the potential content and reception of Biden’s book, reflecting skepticism about its value.
Jessica Tarlov offers a counterpoint, suggesting that Biden’s memoir may lack new insights and questioning its appeal.
The panel underscores a general sentiment of disillusionment with Biden's leadership, juxtaposing it against Trump’s portrayal as a dynamic leader.
Shifting gears, the panel discusses Coca Cola’s decision to reintroduce cane sugar in its beverages, aligning with President Trump’s preferences.
Jesse Waters analyzes the implications of this change, framing it as a response to consumer demand for more natural ingredients.
Jessica Tarlov critiques the health motivations behind the move, arguing that both high fructose corn syrup and sugar have similar health impacts.
The discussion highlights the balance between consumer choice and regulatory efforts to improve food quality, with varying opinions on the effectiveness and necessity of such initiatives.
Towards the end of the episode, the panel engages in lighter banter, touching on topics like sports sponsorships and viral social media moments. Jesse Waters announces the passing of Hulk Hogan, celebrating his legacy.
Greg Gutfeld humorously critiques a staged event by the Cleveland Browns, mocking the overt product tie-ins.
The episode wraps up with playful interactions among the panelists, maintaining the dynamic and entertaining atmosphere characteristic of The Five.
Conclusion
"Fed Up With The Fed" offers a comprehensive and engaging exploration of critical financial and political issues, anchored by the panel’s incisive commentary and spirited debates. From scrutinizing the Federal Reserve's budget to challenging narratives around election interference and evaluating presidential leadership, the episode provides listeners with a thorough analysis of the current socio-political landscape. The blend of serious discourse and lighthearted segments ensures a well-rounded and informative listening experience.