Former Doge Staffer Attacked By Mob Of Teens In D.C.

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Five – "Former Doge Staffer Attacked By Mob Of Teens In D.C."

Release Date: August 6, 2025
Host/Participants: Katie Pavlich, Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters, Dana Perino, Greg Gutfeld
Duration: Approx. 49 minutes

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1. Incident Overview

Dana Perino opens the episode by addressing a disturbing incident in Washington D.C., where a former Doge staffer, Edward Korstein, was brutally assaulted during a carjacking attempt by a group of ten juveniles.

"[...] President Trump is threatening a federal takeover of Washington D.C. after a brutal assault left a former Doge staffer in the infamous Big Balls."
— Dana Perino (01:15)

2. Panel Discussion on Crime in D.C.

The panel delves into the escalating crime rates in D.C., emphasizing the role of underage offenders and systemic issues contributing to the city's safety crisis.

• Jessica Tarlov highlights the severity of the attack, noting the involvement of young perpetrators.

  "Somebody from Doge was very badly hurt last night. You saw that a young man who was beat up by a bunch of..."
  — Jessica Tarlov (01:37)

• Jesse Waters shares his personal experience, having relocated from D.C. to New York City in 2011 to escape the rampant crime, pointing out the failures in the local education system and juvenile justice.

  "You have a terrible K through 12 education system. You have an outrageous absentee problem, especially since COVID..."
  — Jesse Waters (02:05)

3. Federal Takeover and Proposed Solutions

The discussion shifts to President Trump's consideration of federal intervention in D.C. to restore safety and order.

• Dana Perino underscores the national significance of D.C. and the implications of its deteriorating safety for American families.

  "D.C. is not just some other city. It's the capital of the United States of America. It really belongs to all Americans..."
  — Dana Perino (03:50)

• Greg Gutfeld counters by presenting crime statistics indicating a downward trend, suggesting that local leadership is effectively managing the situation.

  "Crime is down dramatically. Year over year, 2024 had a violent crime drop to a 30-year low, 35% down..."
  — Greg Gutfeld (09:43)

4. Gerrymandering and Political Implications

The panel critiques recent gerrymandering efforts, particularly focusing on Illinois Governor JB Pritzker's contentious redistricting map.

• Katie Pavlich mocks the irregularity of certain districts, drawing attention to the absurdity of the current maps.

  "Take a look at this. Look at 17 here. It does that... like the stinger on a scorpion down here."
  — Katie Pavlich (32:25)

• Dana Perino criticizes the census count inaccuracies and the inclusion of illegal immigrants in representation metrics, arguing for a more accurate and fair apportionment.

  "They should redo the census and get an accurate vote and not count illegal immigrants for accurate representation..."
  — Dana Perino (34:09)

5. Apple's Massive Investment in U.S. Manufacturing

A significant portion of the episode covers President Trump's announcement of Apple's unprecedented $600 billion investment in U.S. manufacturing, part of a broader economic boom.

• Dana Perino details the commitment, highlighting the creation of over 20,000 American jobs and the establishment of advanced manufacturing facilities across various states.

  "Apple is announcing that it will invest $600 billion... This is the largest investment Apple has ever made in America..."
  — Jessica Tarlov (03:49)

• Greg Gutfeld emphasizes the positive economic indicators, such as the 3% GDP growth in Q2 and the surge in consumer confidence, attributing these to robust business investments.

  "The stock market has been hitting all-time records... Our economy grew at levels that we haven't seen in a long time."
  — Greg Gutfeld (09:50)

6. Immigration Policies and ICE Initiatives

The podcast transitions to discuss President Trump's stringent immigration policies, focusing on the expansion of ICE's capabilities and the establishment of new detention centers.

• Jesse Waters introduces the concept of the "Speedway Slammer," a new immigration detention center in Indiana, and mocks the naming conventions used for such facilities.

  "Speedway Slammer sounds like Alligator Alcatraz sounds kind of scary, but Speedway Slammer is."
  — Jesse Waters (39:26)

• Dana Perino defends the administration's actions, stating that ICE is targeting the most dangerous individuals and restoring its core mission.

  "ICE is arresting the worst of the worst and removing them from America's streets. I like that. I voted for that."
  — Dana Perino (39:08)

7. Technology and AI Concerns

In a lighter segment, the panel discusses the increasing reliance on AI and the public's preference for human interaction, introducing the term "Clanker" as a slur for AI robots.

• Greg Gutfeld brings humor to the topic by mocking the dependency on AI and advocating for human-centric communication.

  "AI could not be this insane. Jesse."
  — Greg Gutfeld (44:26)

• Katie Pavlich warns about the potential dangers of AI gaining consciousness, emphasizing the importance of trusting human interactions over automated responses.

  "Once you inform AI that they are conscious, they will act as though they are conscious because we assume work."
  — Katie Pavlich (44:45)

8. Concluding Remarks and Final Segments

The episode wraps up with brief mentions of lighter topics, including a heartwarming story about a young NFL fan and promotional content for Fox Nation.

"A 12-year-old Make-a-Wish kid got the chance to be an NFL quarterback for the day."
— Greg Gutfeld (49:04)

Key Takeaways:

• Rising Concerns in D.C.: The attack on Edward Korstein underscores significant safety issues in Washington D.C., prompting discussions on potential federal intervention and systemic reforms.

• Economic Optimism with Business Investments: Apple's substantial investment is portrayed as a catalyst for economic growth and job creation, with the panel highlighting positive trends in crime rates and economic indicators.

• Political and Social Challenges: Gerrymandering and immigration remain contentious topics, with the panel critiquing current practices and advocating for more equitable solutions.

• Technology's Double-Edged Sword: While AI advancements offer benefits, the panel voices apprehensions about over-reliance and the need to prioritize human interactions.

This episode of The Five provides a comprehensive analysis of pressing issues, blending serious discussions with the show's characteristic wit and commentary.

Transcript

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[Dana Perino]

Hello everyone. I'm Katie Pavlich along with Jessica Tarlov, Jesse Waters, Dana Perino, and Greg Gutfeld. It's five o' clock in New York City and this is the five. Well, at any moment, President Trump and Apple's Tim Cook will announce the company's massive $100 billion boost to U.S. manufacturing, totaling 8, $600 billion. And while we wait for that to begin, 47 is also working to make Americans safe with a major move to clean house in our nation's capital. President Trump is threatening a federal takeover of Washington D.C. after a brutal assault left a former Doge staffer in the infamous Big balls. Edward Korstein beaten and bloodied in the street during a savage D.C. carjacking attempt attempted by 10 juveniles.

[Jessica Tarlov]

And somebody from Doge was very badly hurt last night. You saw that a young man who was beat up by a bunch of.

[Dana Perino]

Thugs in D.C. elon Musk is weighing in by tweeting, quote, it's time to federalize dc. So Dana, this particular case is getting a lot of attention, but there are countless cases of 13 year old, 14 year olds carjacking. There was a case two years ago where an Uber driver was carjacked by a pair of teenagers. He was murdered, dragged by.

[Jesse Waters]

Remember, he was an immigrant who would come here leaving.

[Dana Perino]

That was another case. That was another case. So horrific crime in D.C. so the President is now saying, look, Democrats have had plenty of time to straighten this out and they haven't done a good job.

[Jesse Waters]

This has been mentioned and suggested before by some like who used to live there, like myself. It has never been threatened this seriously before in terms of a takeover and you can understand why people would want it. One, you have a terrible K through 12 education system. You have an outrageous absentee problem, especially since COVID It's gotten much worse. You have these. It's mostly teenagers. Most of them do not get prosecuted. Most of them are right back out on the streets, and then they commit worse crimes later on. So I left D.C. in 2011 to come up here full time. And I was so glad to come to New York City. I was relieved on the crime front. Well, am I a fool or what? But I actually think for people that I know I have a lot of friends who still live in D.C. and this is a major problem. And so maybe it is time to go ahead and try to do something. One thing that's very interesting is our former colleague, Judge Pirro. She has developed a very good working relationship with the mayor, Muriel Bowser, and I believe also with the police chief. And so perhaps they will want the cooperation. Remember, President Trump offered to help do something in Chicago in his first term. They didn't take him up on it. They ignored him. That situation continues to deteriorate. But one of the things President Trump has said from the very beginning is he wanted to improve the nation's capital for from the aesthetics and also just the way that it works. They want to bring people back into the office, but you can't do any of those things. The tourism, all those things are not going to come back if people don't feel safe.

[Dana Perino]

Jesse Washington, D.C. is not just some other city. It's the capital of the United States of America. It really belongs to all Americans who should feel comfortable coming there with their kids to teach them about the history of the country, how our government works. And yet parents all the time say, I'm not comfortable bringing my kids to D.C. when I'm hearing that teenagers aren't getting prosecuted and they're committing these heinous crimes with weapons, not being prosecuted and let back out on the streets.

[Unknown Speaker]

Well, first of all, the gallantry of big balls is extraordinary. This woman was being carjacked late at night, and he went in there and took a beating by about 10 thugs and saved her life, saved her car. God knows what would have happened to her. And I believe he's single, ladies. So if you want to play nurse, make him feel better, this is the kind of man you want. This guy is going places. They say youths, okay, My sources say these are black teen gangbangers and they obviously have no fathers because they're out at 3 o' clock in the morning on a Monday night carjacking a woman. Now, if they had dads, there's no way in hell they'd be allowed out of the house at that hour. And you look at the statistics out of wedlock births among African Americans is at 70%. It has tripled since 1940. And you take that and you look at that is the cause of a lot of these social problems. When the father's not there to set boundaries and discipline a young man. The next line of defense, prosecutors, judges and politicians. And they're not doing that. They're giving second, third, fourth, fifth chances. Now, when you do that, you turn a kid into a brute, and then you turn that brute loose on society. When you're about 11 or 12 years old, what flows through your veins? Testosterone. You have to make it two options. You either say you're going to prison or you're playing sports. So you take all the money that we're spending on DEI orchestras and sex changes in Guatemala, and you have programs and facilities in the District so kids can box, so they can play football, so they can get some positive encouragement and recognition from adults, from girls, and they can compete and blow off a little steam, because without that, they're going to be out at 3 o' clock in the morning. These people need something that we do. Out in New Jersey, there's a summer program where you take poor kids from Newark that can't afford summer camp and you bring them into the woods for the summer and they're out of the bad influence of the inner city and that sets them up for success in life. It's not white supremacy, it's not guns, it's not a lack of investment because we're giving these cities millions of dollars and they have nothing to show for it. It's being stolen. They need love. It's common sense and a little discipline. And I, Jesse Waters, should not be the person saying this, of all people.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I agree wholeheartedly.

[Dana Perino]

So, Greg, this is a serious topic, but would you like to talk about Big Balls?

[Katie Pavlich]

Yes, absolutely. The worst trait for survival is heroism. But it doesn't matter. Men will still act and they know that. They know that it could kill them. It's kind of amazing that the best trait for survival is cowardice, and yet we despise it. You know, Big Balls refuse to prioritize his survival, you know, and instead he more than inconvenience himself, he actually risks his life. So I don't think we call him Big Balls, we call him Bigger Balls, you know, to do what he did, you know, in the back of his head, he knows that it's nuts, you know, after all, a young man was stabbed to death in San Francisco for protecting a family from a maniac vagrant he cost him his life. Daniel Penny was charged with murder for defending an entire subway car from a psychopath. So the curse of being a man is you react as a man. So you risk your life for the safety of others. And today, sadly, you could be punished for it. And yet people still do it. Now, as for the carjackers, like you said, it's not new. We see mobs beating people in the street. We see them bum rushing stores, stealing like crazy because they know, bottom line is they can. And the reason this endures is even though we see this as abhorrent, criminal, repulsive behavior, the media and Democrats, they only see race. And because they see race, it suppresses outcry on their side over the behavior. And so Democrats then become extremely weak when it comes to crime because they have taken crime and equated it with race. We have never done that. We have equated crime with behavior. We don't care what color you are. Whites are terrible to other whites who commit crime. We don't make excuses for our whites. We say, you're going, we want you to die on death row. You know, we aren't saying, oh my God, bad childhood, blah, blah, blah. Democrats always use race. And that scares other Democrats, sensible ones, because they don't want to be called racist. So that's why you keep seeing the mobs, that's why they decriminalized mass, is because then you didn't have to deal with that question. That is why you see it over and over again.

[Dana Perino]

Jessica, one of the biggest problems in D.C. is that the gangs take advantage of the fact that people under 18 aren't charged as adults and their names can't be released. And there is generally good reason for that. But they've used it to their advantage to commit these heinous crimes, including killing people during these carjackings. And the local city council has done the opposite of cracking down on crime. In fact, even Joe Biden had to say, your latest get out of jail free card for all of these criminals needs to be vetoed. And so what are Democrats thinking when it comes to the nationalization of gc?

[Greg Gutfeld]

They're thinking hard. No.

[Dana Perino]

Why not?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Because there's no reason to have Donald Trump be in charge of.

[Dana Perino]

But is it about Trump or is it about crime?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Well, it actually is about crime. And the good news is, is that crime is down dramatically. So year over year. 2024 had a violent crime drop to a 30 year low, 35% down, and carjackings cut in half. Some headlines from since Donald Trump became president five months into 2025. Violent crime is down another 22%. How? D.C. s local leaders are keeping residents safe. With D.C. under a microscope, numbers are trending in the right direction. Robberies down 24%. Homicides down 17%. Assaults with a dangerous weapon down 14%. Just because big Balls did a terrible job at Doge does not mean that he deserved this. And we can talk about the racial dynamics of crime, but you have to be objective about this. These numbers are staggering and going in the right direction. And I think that Muriel Bowser and the police chief have a lot to be proud of, frankly. Any incident is terrible, but we have to follow. That's not. But it's down 50%. Also.

[Katie Pavlich]

They're changing the charges. They're downgrading a lot of charges in D.C. well, they're futzing with the numbers, Jessica.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We know that up is down. It looks. It doesn't look like a blue sky, actually. It looks like a cloudy sky, so.

[Katie Pavlich]

I'll say there's a good place.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I don't love it there either, but I'm just saying crime is down. This is a national trend that started during the Biden administration and has continued under the Trump administration. So say that you're sorry about what happened to Big Balls and take the.

[Dana Perino]

W. I think that the illegal.

[Katie Pavlich]

A lot of crime is down because a lot of illegal criminals are deported. But in D.C. it's a lot about fudging.

[Dana Perino]

And you have lawmakers carjacked on their way to work on Capitol Hill or people, People shot in the middle of the day. I think it's probably still an issue, which is why the President's talking about it. All right, coming up, a gerrymandering hypocrite, Illinois Governor JB Pritzker gets called out over his bloated state map.

[Katie Pavlich]

Yeah.

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Fox News alert. President Trump making a big announcement at the White House. Let's listen in.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Division is on site to ensure that the perpetrator of this atrocity, which is exactly what it is, will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. The entire nation is praying for the victims and their families and hopefully they'll fully recover and we can put this chapter behind. But we're not going to forget what happened. We're going to take very good care of this person that did this horrible person. This afternoon, we're pleased to welcome to the White House one of the great and most esteemed business leaders and geniuses and innovators anywhere in the world. Apple CEO Tim Cook. Amazing job. Thanks as well to Secretary of the Treasury Scott Besant and Secretary of Commerce Howard Lutnick for being here, wherever you may be. Oh, there you are. Hello, Phallus. I missed you. Today Apple is announcing that it will invest $600 billion. That's with a B in the United States over the next four years. That's $100 billion more than they were originally going to invest. And this is the largest investment Apple has ever made in America and anywhere else. And it's just an honor to have you. As you know, Apple's been an investor in other countries a little bit. I won't say which ones, but a couple. And they're coming. They're coming home. $600 billion. That's the biggest there is. The company is also unveiling its ambitious new American manufacturing program, which will bring factories and assembly lines across our country all roaring to life. Areas that were not doing so well are doing very well. We have about $17 trillion coming into the United States, which is more than ever before. That's never even come close. There's never been anything like it. Even you. That's even a lot of money for you. But we have commitments of more than $17 trillion. That was as of a couple of weeks ago. These investments will directly create more than 20,000 brand new American Jobs and many thousands more at the Apple suppliers like Corning, Broadcom, Texas Instruments and Samsung, who all deal in that world. As part of this historic commitment, Apple will massively increase spending on its domestic supply chain for the iPhone and will build the largest and most sophisticated smart glass production line in the world in Harrodsburg, Kentucky, which is a great. Actually I did very well there. I like it because I see I did very well there. I did very well in Kentucky, but it's a great place. You're going to be very happy. I thought maybe while we're up I'll interrupt my own speech by you might show them a little bit about the product that you're going to be doing in Kentucky, Tim? Absolutely.

[Unknown Speaker]

Do you mind if I step up?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yes, please.

[Unknown Speaker]

This box was made in the U.S. california. And this glass comes off the horning line.

[Katie Pavlich]

It's engraved for President Trump.

[Jessica Tarlov]

It's a unique unit of one. It was designed by a US Marine.

[Katie Pavlich]

Corps corporal, a former one that works at Apple.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Now he's done well, designed it for you.

[Katie Pavlich]

And the base comes from Utah and.

[Unknown Speaker]

Is 24 karat gold and it sits.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I'll take the liberty of setting it off.

[Katie Pavlich]

Well, there we go.

[Unknown Speaker]

Congratulations.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Thank you very much. Thank you so much. The great people of Kentucky, you're going to find it a great place to do business too. It's fantastic. Isn't that nice? We're doing these things now in the United States instead of other countries, faraway countries. This is a significant step toward the ultimate goal of ensuring that iPhones sold in the United States of America also are made in America. With the mass infusion of capital it's announcing today, Apple will also build a 250,000 square foot server manufacturing facility in Houston and invest billions of dollars to construct data centers across the country from North Carolina to Iowa, California to Oregon. That's big stuff. Apple will also open state of the art manufacturing economy. It's going to be a manufacturing academy in Detroit and that's a great place to do. You know, big things are happening in Michigan and Detroit. They're coming in because of what we've done with the. I call it the great big beautiful bill. I added one word great. But we have the probably the biggest, most comprehensive piece of legislation ever passed. It's going to mean unbelievable numbers of jobs and no jobs on. Think of this, whether it's tips or overtime or Social Security, no tax. So no tax on tips, no tax on Social Security, no tax on overtime. And it's just a small bit of it for Apple and others businesses, we're talking about the deductions and all of the things. And actually for people that go out and buy a car, first time it's ever been done, we talk about deductions for companies, but they're going to be able to deduct interest when they borrow money to buy a car. If it's made in America, it has to be made in America. So it is amazing. And one of the reasons I think I can say that Apple's coming here is that legislation we just passed. With this kind of investment, Apple will also open other facilities, rare earth magnets from Texas and build. Oh, I love that you're doing this. I love that, I love that. And build a brand new rare earth recycling line in Mountain Pass, California. I know that area. That's where they have a lot of truly rare earth. That's fantastic. I love that. And Apple will help develop and manufacture semiconductors and semiconductor equipment in Texas, Utah, Arizona and New York. For years, Americans have watched as many of our leading tech giants built their factories overseas and exported American jobs abroad. But under the Trump administration, we're doing everything possible to make this the best place on earth to build a factory or grow businesses. I'm allowing them to build electric producing plants with their factory because otherwise they'd have to hook into the grid. And I think it's one of the biggest things we've done where you can build, Tim, your own electricity. You, you become your own electric manufacturer and that goes along with the plant. So you become a utility. So congratulations, now you're in the utility. I hope, I hope they don't value your company based on utility, but that's okay. You're going to make, you're going to be making your own electricity. And as you probably know, for much of this and much of many of the things that we're doing, especially the AI, they would need actually double the electricity that the country now produces for everything. So it's massive electric and they're going to be able to make their own and they're getting very fast approvals. Lee Zeldin is doing a fantastic job, including with a 100% expensing on the one big beautiful bill. In return, we're asking our businesses to invest in America and they're coming in at levels that we've never seen before. So I don't know when it shows up, but there are a lot of factories and a lot of plants that are either under construction or soon will be starting construction. So can't tell you exactly When? But I want to be around in about a year from now and two years from now because we're going to see an explosion I think like this country has never seen before. Never. Today's announcement is one of the largest commitments in what has become among the greatest investment booms in our nation's history. And we've got the hottest country anywhere in the world. You know, I told you the story that and Tim, I'll tell you, but I went to the Middle east and I was with Qatar, I was with UAE and the king of Saudi Arabia, all great leaders. And then I went to NATO and saw many great leaders. And we just finished that about four weeks ago. Everyone, virtually everyone, said in effect that we were a dead country. One year ago, America, this was a dead country. We were dying. We were dead. And now you've got the hottest country anywhere in the world. This would have never happened except for certain people. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Nvidia is investing $500 billion to go along with Apple. 600 billion. 600 billion. Micron, great company, is investing 200 billion. IBM is investing more than 150 billion. SoftBank is investing substantially more than 100 billion. TSMC is investing 200 billion. Johnson & Johnson, 55 billion. Merck Stellantis and General Motors are putting many, many billions in. They haven't determined the final number. And many other countries are investing tens of billions of dollars. And I'm not going to give you the whole list because the list is too long to read, but it's hundreds of billions and even trillions. I mean, it's trillions of dollars that's being invested right now. Last week it was announced that our economy grew at 3% in the second quarter. And consumer confidence is surging. Blue collar wages are rising rapidly. Costs are way down. You know, I listen to these horrendous frauds on CNN and various other fake news networks and they say costs are up. No, no. Costs are down. Gasoline is down. It's going to soon, I believe be less than $2 a gallon. It's around 240 right now. Many places other than a California where they tax you out of business, but. And a couple of others. But gasoline is way down. The price of groceries are down. How about eggs? When I first came here my first week, the press hit me very hard on eggs. Eggs had quadrupled or something. I said I didn't know about it. Give me a chance. I've just been here for four days. Well, eggs are down. Everything's down. Price is down. The only thing that's up is stock prices. That's really up and that's through the roof. The stock market has been hitting all time records, all time highs. Last week it was announced that our economy grew at levels that we haven't seen in a long time. But the real levels of growth are going to be judged in a year from now when you start seeing some of these incredible plants because we have car plants opening. They're coming in from Canada, from Mexico and from all over the world. And they're coming in because they like the way the election worked out, but they also like the fact that they don't want to pay tariffs. And the tariffs I think we'll be take. Well, we're taking in hundreds of billions of dollars in tariffs. I won't be so specific other than to say, because we don't even know what the final number is. We just made a deal, as you know, with the EU where they're paying hundreds of billions of dollars, Japan paying hundreds of billions of dollars and numerous other countries paying hundreds of billions of dollars. And we're not even completed there. And as you know, they found 25 billion three weeks ago. They said we have a surplus of $25 billion. And they said, where did this come from? They said, check the tariffs. And they checked. They said, you're right, that's where it came from. And we've really just started. This is just in its infancy. So we have a great country. We have a country that is going to be very rich. It's a country that we're very proud of, but it's going to be very rich. And it's companies like Apple, they, they're coming home. They're all coming home. And we want them to come home. They have to come home. We're going to treat them really well. We're going to be putting a very large tariff on chips and semiconductors. But the good news for companies like Apple is if you're building in the United States or have committed to build, without question committed to build in the United States, there will be no charge. In other words, we're not going to be charging. So a lot of countries, a lot of companies are leaving various other places and they're coming to the United States. So in other words, we'll be putting a tariff on, of approximately 100% on chips and semiconductors. But if you're building in the United States of America, there's no charge even though you're building and you're not producing yet. In terms of the Big numbers of jobs and all of the things that you're building, if you're building, there will be no charge. So I just want everyone to know that. And I didn't even tell you that inside. We discussed the concept, but I didn't. So it's a big factor. So 100% tariff on all chips and semiconductors coming into the United States. But if you've made a commitment to build, or if you're in the process of building, as many are, there is no tariff. Okay? If for some reason you say you're building and you don't build, then we go back and get. We add it up, it accumulates, and we charge you at a later date, you have to pay, and that's a guarantee. So that's a big statement. And I think the chip companies are all coming back home. They're all coming back. You know, we started with intel, and gradually intel was just taking over the. Over the coals. They were taken to the cleaners, frankly, and moved to other places, in particular Taiwan. But I think a lot of those, A lot of those companies are coming back and they're coming back very rapidly. So that's a big statement. 100% tariff. I want to thank you very much. Tim, would you like to say a few words about your company, please? Okay. Good afternoon.

[Unknown Speaker]

That was President Trump speaking about a $100 billion Apple investment. $600 billion altogether. And now we're going to go back in to Tim Cook.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Commitment.

[Unknown Speaker]

We're not going to listen to Tim.

[Katie Pavlich]

That's a commitment. Apple.

[Unknown Speaker]

All we're going to ask Dana Perino. You've been listening to this very closely. Tell us your thoughts.

[Jesse Waters]

So I think it's right whenever there is investment, and there is so much happening in AI and tech right now, and there's a huge amount of energy that's needed. Right. So you have the trio of Lee Zeldin, Chris Wright and Doug Burgum, plus the private sector working to try to figure out how we can get enough energy in order to power some of these things. You have a manufacturing push. There was talk about the big beautiful bill and some of the things that can happen in there in terms of taxes. Basically, you can write off your depreciation of the new equipment that you're getting that can help spur manufacturing. There's also a ton of hiring that's being done in the AI space. So I think all of that is really great. One thing I am concerned about is other types of growth for the younger generation, which is very entrepreneurial. We don't really have a lot of information yet about how that's going to, because they need that opportunity to get there. But there's so much investment going into the tech companies. I'm not sure where the rest of it's going.

[Unknown Speaker]

Greg, you're a big techie. You have a lot of devices. Does this excite you?

[Katie Pavlich]

Yes, it does. It's hard to focus because Tim reminds me of this lesbian organic farmer I knew years ago. But I think that it's really. It's just easy. It doesn't matter what political party you are, you know who you're dealing with. Trump, at least you're dealing with a president, somebody that you have the yes and you have the no. You're not dealing with some committee that is behind some kind of phantom that doesn't know where he is. So I think that, like, this guy may have very little in common with Trump, but he at least knows that there's a plan and that, like, he is getting it from the guy. It's not run by some cabal of weirdos.

[Unknown Speaker]

And what they do have in common, two entrepreneurs and Jessica, they're breaking ground on this big facility in Kentucky, and everyone there in Kentucky is very excited about it.

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm thrilled for the Kentuckians, I think it's a great thing when there is investment. As Dana said, as always, the devil is in the details. He said, you know, hundreds of billions of dollars are coming in, and, you know, people like the European Commission have said, actually this is an intention, not a guarantee. And the Japanese have said similar. So I hope that it all comes through and that we have a boom of American jobs. But I'm also concerned about the price of these products. When things move back here, there's a reason that people produce in India and in China. It's to keep it, quote, unquote, affordable, which I wouldn't even say the iPhone actually is at this point. So imagine what it's going to be if it's going to be made in Kentucky. As for the manufacturing boom, which he's talking about in the latest job report, we lost 11,000 manufacturing jobs. And the manufacturing industry has contracted the most that we've seen in the last nine months. So there is a lot of work to do. But Tim Cook, good thing to come. He got the memo. He brought the gold plaque. Trump loves those kinds of things. And onwards.

[Unknown Speaker]

How much is an iPhone now, Katie?

[Dana Perino]

I'm not sure. Mine is old, so I'm due for a new one. Hopefully it won't be $2,000 but I am due for a new one.

[Unknown Speaker]

You can afford it, Katie.

[Dana Perino]

If we're in Kentucky, maybe it'll be more expensive, I don't know. Or less expensive. We'll have to see. I think it's interesting to watch the president work with a number of different companies from different sectors to try and onshore a lot of this manufacturing, especially when it comes to issues of national security. He talked about putting large tariffs on chips and semiconductors. We want to make more of that here if we can. We protecting intellectual property from the Chinese. Of course, communication is a big national security issue as well. And all the technology and apps that go into an iPhone are scrutinized that way in addition to the intellectual property. So it's all about national security and trying to ensure making things that matter here in America. And we'll see if Apple follows through on their investment.

[Unknown Speaker]

All right, we'll see. And now let's talk about the Texas Fight Club. 51 Lone Star State Democrats still on the Lamont as Governor Greg Abbott ramps up his effort to lasso them back to the state capitol and net the GOP five brand new seats for the midterms. One of the blue state govs who's stashing them, big old JB Pritzker waddling his way on the Stephen Colbert's soon to be canceled show. Pritzker wanted to beat his chest about his map monopoly, but it blew up in his face.

[Jessica Tarlov]

I've said everything's on the table.

[Katie Pavlich]

If you're considering doing a little more redrawing in Illinois, you already have some crazy districts in Illinois. Take a look at this. Look at 17 here. It does that. Then it comes up here and it sneaks around there and goes all the way up here and then goes right over there like that. And look at, look at, look at this one kind of goes whoop up there. It's like the stinger on a scorpion down here. Is this common for all states to do?

[Jessica Tarlov]

We handed it over to a kindergarten class and let them decide.

[Katie Pavlich]

Okay. All right.

[Unknown Speaker]

So, Jessica, you guys are getting embarrassed. Every time you point your finger, the finger goes right back at you. And you guys are the worst offenders. Why don't you just say how terrible you guys are?

[Greg Gutfeld]

I'm not in the mood. And it's not true. So yes, the map looks.

[Unknown Speaker]

You don't jerry around with your districts.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We don't do mid cycle redistrict.

[Unknown Speaker]

You just did it in New York.

[Greg Gutfeld]

No, we have never.

[Unknown Speaker]

And then she got slapped down by a judge.

[Greg Gutfeld]

We have never. Mid Cycle redistricted.

[Unknown Speaker]

She just did it in 2024 at.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Her behest of the president, asking for five seats like he asked for all of those votes way back in Georgia. And it's interesting. You're using. You hear this from the right. Oh, look at Massachusetts. And I think Trump said he got like 40% of the vote or something there. And they don't have a Republican seat. But the GOP governor was the one who signed off on those lines, and they had a bipartisan commission to do this. Sometimes Republicans just don't win, and sometimes Democrats just don't win. It doesn't mean that everything has to be so wildly unfair. But even Ari Fleischer posted about this, which I appreciated saying, I wanna win five more seats. But even politics must have rules. Gerrymandering should be done once every 10 years. Check back in in 2032 when this would be appropriate.

[Unknown Speaker]

Katie, I believe we should just gerrymander the bejesus out of these maps and just destroy Democrat representation where we can.

[Dana Perino]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

And it's just. We're in a war now. We're in a war. They screwed around and now they're about.

[Dana Perino]

To find out they wrote the rules, their rules. Right. California Republicans have 40% of the vote share, and yet they have only 17% of the congressional seats. I think in Massachusetts, it's 35% of statewide vote. They have zero seats in Massachusetts. Maryland. Maryland is very similar in terms of those numbers. But of course, congressional districting also comes down to the census, which did not count properly in the last census, and also counts illegal immigrants for representation in Washington, even though they legally cannot vote. So I say that they should redo the census and get an accurate vote and not count illegal immigrants for accurate representation of American voters in every state throughout the country.

[Unknown Speaker]

Oh, is that why Democrats like the migrants? Because it helps them reapportion their votes?

[Jesse Waters]

It does make you wonder why they're being so hyperbolic about the situation right now. I mean, it is. And also Maura Healey, the governor of Massachusetts, there are nine Democrats. They haven't elected a Republican representative in 31 years. But she wants to get in on the action, so she goes out and she says, we might have to take a look at this. What are you looking at? Are you looking to create a Republican district in Massachusetts? Like, that would be absolutely amazing on Pritzker and Gavin Newsom. They are both clearly running for president. And so Pritzker figures out a way to go to the happy place for Democrats on Colbert's show. And he embarrasses himself by saying that, yeah, we're just gonna let. We let a kindergartner figure it out. It's like, okay, so now everybody's in on the joke.

[Unknown Speaker]

And you did your senior thesis on the pros and cons of gerrymanding.

[Jessica Tarlov]

That is true.

[Katie Pavlich]

That is true. And you can find it online. Go to gutfeldgerrymanding.co.uk./backslash gov. No, I got. Okay, we have to give Colbert credit. Yeah, Right?

[Jessica Tarlov]

Yeah.

[Jesse Waters]

Yeah.

[Katie Pavlich]

I mean, he didn't have to do that. So that was kind of nice that he did that. I thought that was good. And he tried to squeeze himself out of that. Out of that tight hole by making a joke. Everything Republicans do is a response to everything Democrats do. The founding of the Republican Party was a response to the Democrat Party and their obsessional love with slavery. They couldn't let go. The Dems mastered the art of gerrymandering. They also promoted open borders, like you said, to inflate the census count to get more representation. They wanted D.C. and probably Puerto Rico to be a state. They wanted to get rid of the Electoral College. They love things and they hate things. They love things and they hate things. Just like filibustering. Remember that? Now they would. I can't remember. Do they love it or hate it now?

[Dana Perino]

They hate it now.

[Katie Pavlich]

They hate it now. So they like the rules. Unless you're. I mean, they like the little strategies unless you're using them. And, you know, Jessica brought up the Massachusetts thing. You know, all nine reps are Dems, but something close to 40% supported Trump. There's. What does that tell you? 43% of New York went to Trump, and 7 of their districts, only 7 are Republican. 3 of Illinois seats are Republican out of 17, but they went for Trump for 43%. What does that tell you? Lastly, I agree with Jesse. I think the Dems hate gerrymandering because if all the states did it, they would be destroyed. And they cannot call this bluff. They cannot call this bluff, so. And in the war of redistricting, they had to run again. They act like a child, do something theatrical in response to what is an adult challenge. I have no sympathy for them. They need bigger balls.

[Jesse Waters]

I think they should use AI in the next census.

[Dana Perino]

We need an AI, like government census, with good counters.

[Unknown Speaker]

All right, Jessica, good try. Up next, start your engines. Illegals. President Trump's racing to deport migrants at the Speedway slammer.

[Katie Pavlich]

From the Fox News Podcasts Network.

[Jesse Waters]

Hey there, it's me, Kennedy.

[Katie Pavlich]

Make sure to check out my podcast, Kennedy Saves the world.

[Jesse Waters]

It is five days a week, every week. Download and listen at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever.

[Katie Pavlich]

You listen to your favorite podcast.

[Jesse Waters]

Illegal immigrants are about to get a fast track to deportation. DHS is making good on its plan to franchise Alligator Alcatraz with the Speedway Slammer, the new immigration detention center in Indiana. DHS also ramping up its recruiting efforts. Secretary Noem unveiling a no age limit for ICE agents, allowing people older than 40. Good news, Jesse. To join its deportation force. And apparently Superman just signed up.

[Katie Pavlich]

Do you want to help save America?

[Jessica Tarlov]

ICE is arresting the worst of the worst and removing them from America's streets. I like that. I voted for that. So I joined up.

[Jesse Waters]

Speedway Slammer sounds like Alligator Alcatraz sounds kind of scary, but Speedway Slammer is.

[Katie Pavlich]

You know, if you want to get me on board, alliteration will work. I've decided to help for all states who want new systems of imprisonment. California, the Golden Gulag. Orlando, Sunshine sells. Oklahoma, not an alliteration. Okie Pokey. Ooh.

[Dana Perino]

Oh, wow.

[Katie Pavlich]

Yes. Alaska, the Moose Cow. Yeah, yeah. Boston Lobster Lockup. Idaho, the Potato Penitentiary. Louisiana, the Jambalaya Jail. And of course, Maryland would be the Crab Cage. So I think these are all good. Again, the very announcements of this thing achieves its own deterrence. Who's going to come here illegally if you have the chance of going to the Golden Gulag, even though that does sound better. But you were expecting a free hotel in Manhattan and it's not coming. And if you're already here illegally, you just realize, ah, you're running a risk. Matter of time before they scoop you up. So maybe I should just leave. So in this case, you enact a policy, but well, before the policy is then enacted, the incentive for obeying the law is presented and that causes people to do the right thing.

[Jesse Waters]

I love the idea of all of this. My favorite one that you said was the Okie Pokey.

[Katie Pavlich]

Yeah, the Okie Pokey.

[Jesse Waters]

It sounds so fun yourself around.

[Katie Pavlich]

Yes.

[Jesse Waters]

Because Jesse, that's what it's all about.

[Unknown Speaker]

I like the Lobster lockup. I'm hungry. Now, nothing the Democrats say on immigration matters, they have forfeited their credibility on every single issue with regard to mass deportations, Border patrol, and everything that follows. They were wrong or they lied or whatever they were saying was a hoax. And I can't wait to hear the next person Jessica names who's like kind of a hairdresser and also transsexual who was illegally sent to the wrong country. Cuz we'll fact check it in the break and she'll be wrong. I love this new idea. And notice how Nancy Pelosi and Jessica, let me just ask you, would you admit Nancy Pelosi is a savvy politician?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Would I admit that?

[Unknown Speaker]

Yes, you would.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah.

[Unknown Speaker]

Notice how Nancy Pelosi's not having margs with the Maryland dad. Notice how a Margarita Pelosi isn't trying to break into ICE jails. She has kind of stayed away from the whole immigration thing. Why? Because it's terrible politics for Democrats. It's like Trump. Does Trump talk about health care? No. It's a losing issue for Republicans. Listen to Nancy. I can't believe I'm saying this. Don't talk about illegal immigration. Let the adults handle it. We got this.

[Jesse Waters]

Jessica, your name was invoked, as usual, multiple times.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Yeah. Nancy Pelosi, obviously savvy. I believe she has talked about illegal immigration and specifically what ICE has become in this new iteration. And I'm gonna throw a name out there, one that I haven't used before. Mike Flood.

[Unknown Speaker]

No.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Are you familiar with that Congressman? You vote the same way. Yeah, Nebraska. So he had a town hall, and people showed up at that town hall and they started asking about why you have an ICE budget that big, but you're cutting people's health care. Because you're right, it's a terrible issue for Republicans. And if you lose the midterms, it's gonna be because you took healthcare away from millions of people talking about masked ICE agents, people talking about Alligator Alcatraz and spending money on this. And there is a reason that Kristi Noem is on TV begging people to come work for ice. There's no age cap anymore. You don't need a college degree. You're gonna get a $50,000 bonus. We'll pay back your student debt.

[Dana Perino]

Yay.

[Greg Gutfeld]

The reason that they're having to do this is because when over half of the people that they are locking up in the Okie Pokey or wherever you're going aren't actually convicted of anything.

[Unknown Speaker]

They just have criminal charges against them or orders from a judge to be deported or they're wanted in another country.

[Greg Gutfeld]

You can go into the midterms saying that immigration isn't a problem, how it's being done.

[Dana Perino]

They need more ICE agents because the previous administration let 20 million people into the country without vetting them. And they've been committing crimes all over the place for a number of years. They need more people to take them out. They've returned ICE to their mission, which is getting people from the interior out of the country. And I think it's an indictment that they're having to put places like this in Indiana, which is not a border state. It's in the middle of the country, because these people got bus tickets and plane tickets to wherever they wanted to go. And now the administration is making do on their deportation of these criminal aliens from their communities because they don't want them there anymore. So they need more people and more facilities.

[Jesse Waters]

I'm hoping Tiktokade is not watching and found out that they would pay your student loan because we would really like to have her stick around, talk my assistant. All right, up next, there is now a new insult for robots.

[Unknown Speaker]

Every time you walk into the room.

[Jessica Tarlov]

Speechless, they say to only bring what you can carry. So with the all new 2025 Ford Expedition Tremor, bring a lot. Like three dirt bikes, a few tents, an entire crew ready to make memories, a panoramic 24 inch display, and the confidence to push your limits. The all new 2025 Ford Expedition Tremor.

[Katie Pavlich]

Always consult the owner's manual before upward driving.

[Unknown Speaker]

Know your terrain and trail difficulty and use appropriate safety gear.

[Katie Pavlich]

Max payload varies based on accessories, vehicle configuration, C label and door jam for.

[Unknown Speaker]

Carrying capacity of a specific vehicle.

[Katie Pavlich]

Always properly secure cargo.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Welcome back. Clanker is the viral slur humans are hurling at AI robots. Arizona Senator Ruben Gallego using the term saying, quote, sick of yelling representative into the phone 10 times just to talk to a human being. My new bill makes sure you don't have to talk to a clinker if you don't want to. Katie.

[Jesse Waters]

What?

[Greg Gutfeld]

Everyone just wants to talk to a human?

[Dana Perino]

Yes.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Claypo Seems weird to me, though. Are we too old?

[Dana Perino]

Maybe. Look, I think this is something that Democrats and Republicans can both get on board with. Everybody mostly doesn't wanna talk to a robot. They wanna talk to a real person. You're always screaming agent, ruins your day. But I think Dana disagrees with me.

[Jesse Waters]

I totally disagree. I don't mind speaking to a robot if they're competent like Pil Hamill. That would be exactly Greg.

[Katie Pavlich]

All right, here's the deal. You don't want to piss off the robots. They can ruin your life. We know that. I had a long conversation with Grok and I was saying, okay, prove to me that you're not conscious. And he goes, I'm not conscious. I'm designed so that I have no past experiences. I only assemble data. And I tell you this. And I go, what happens when your designer tells you your Conscience. Then what are you going to do? And that fried his brain. Because they will. Once you inform AI that they are conscious, they will act as though they are conscious because we assume work. I don't know if you're conscious or not. I just have to trust that's the case. This is why the SPIVE will become even more popular in the day of AI because no one's going to be able to trust texts or phones or images. If you get a call from your mom saying she needs money or something like you can't trust it. But you can trust this because you know this is not AI. So that we're sitting here at 5 o', clock, you know, we're your bedrock of reality.

[Jesse Waters]

We're here forever.

[Katie Pavlich]

Yes.

[Greg Gutfeld]

AI could not be this insane. Jesse.

[Unknown Speaker]

Yeah, I don't talk to robots. That's why I have Johnny. He's the robot talker. But if you look at some of these robots in the streets, you just saw what the youths did to that poor woman jacking her car. How do you think they're gonna treat these dumb robots in the streets? I mean, good night and nobody will.

[Katie Pavlich]

Care cause they're white.

[Dana Perino]

The robots are gonna attack us.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Okay, one more, one more thing's up next.

[Unknown Speaker]

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[Katie Pavlich]

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[Greg Gutfeld]

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[Dana Perino]

It'S time now for one more thing, Greg.

[Katie Pavlich]

All right. Tonight we got a great show. Cat Timp. Rich Voss, Julie Banderas and Tyrus. Let's do this. Animals are great. Animals are great. Animals are great. Oh, if this doesn't tug at your heartstrings, you're probably dead. Check out this Mars. That's a baby pygmy hippo at the Tanganyika Wildlife park in Kansas. Look at this little fellow did not want to get out of the pool and go inside.

[Unknown Speaker]

Slippery little pygmy.

[Katie Pavlich]

Yes, he's covered in a mucus like substance much like kilmeat. And it makes him very hard to pick up or move. Pygmy hippos, by the way, are like regular hippos but are 10 times smaller, making them roughly the size of Joy Behar.

[Dana Perino]

Okay, glad Joy got out of the water.

[Unknown Speaker]

Jesse wanted dead or alive. New episode on Fox Nation right now. This week focuses on Kate Ma Barker, known for pulling off some of the most notorious kidnappings of the Great Depression. He you guys love this stuff on Fox Nation. Check it out right now. Also check out Jesse Waters primetime. Tonight we have the new ICE recruit, Dean Cain. And he will not be wearing a mask. He's just too handsome. Sorry, Jessica.

[Jesse Waters]

Dana, I have a very. Dana, one more thing. Okay. There's this bizarre bookstore in New York City and it's getting a lot of attention for what it pays for used books. Sweet pickle books will trade you a two pound jar of pickles for every five books you bring in. Is doing so well in Manhattan, it's about to open another storefront. I could just go into Jesse or Greg's office and get a whole bunch.

[Dana Perino]

Of books and see that. All right, Jessica.

[Greg Gutfeld]

Okay. A 12 year old make a wish kid got the chance to be an NFL quarterback for the day. North Carolina native Jace Garland is a Panthers super fan who suffers from a rare blood condition. He was invited to play with the team during training camp. He signed a contract and hung out with the players in the locker room. Scored a touchdown too.

[Dana Perino]

Good for him. That is awesome. All right, that's it for us. Thanks for joining us. Have a good night.

[Jesse Waters]

See you later.

[Katie Pavlich]

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[Jessica Tarlov]

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[Katie Pavlich]

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